The Luke and Pete Show - Gay communist piss & the caffeine confessionals

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

Luke and Pete confront their caffeine addictions before marvelling at the legend of Hammock Grandad. If Pete wants to match Grandad's record, he'd better start sleeping outdoors soon!Meanwhile, Luke g...ladly declares that throwing things at Nigel Farage is a "great British sport," while Pete—shockingly, the voice of reason—wonders just how far is too far.Want to get in touch with the show? Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Luca Peach Show. It's the middle of the 7th of June. I'm Pete Donaldson. John, I'm Mr. Lukey. I've got a new Monster Energy drink I've not found. I've not found. I've tried before. Lukey.
Starting point is 00:00:15 What flavour? It's Ultra Peachy Keen. It name checks the summer of love on the side and encourages me to unleash the ultra beast. It's, I mean, i don't see what's different between this and like a diet coke uh apart from the caffeine because the caffeine is 150 milligrams right it's got other stuff like taurine or that kind of thing though yeah i mean what is that going to do me any damage that i mean if i mean if it was taurine that if taurine was really important or damaging,
Starting point is 00:00:45 they would put it in coffee, wouldn't they? They'd put it in proper drinks. But they just add that stuff in to make it sound like it's more powerful than it actually is. I just think that people have got this whole monster energy drink and energy drinks in general overblown because it's basically a problem for children who drink it. I'm a big boy and I drink coffee, so what's the difference?
Starting point is 00:01:04 I do find it interesting. for children who drink it. I'm a big boy and I drink coffee so what's the difference? I think, I do find it interesting, I've never once sampled a Monster product, right? Yeah. It's John from VGC. He got me on him. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:01:15 He's got me hooked and I can't get off. But what I find interesting about it is that they are absolutely like, you know, pun intended, relentless
Starting point is 00:01:24 at the amount of different products they put out. Apparently there's 40 different drinks. Yeah. And for a person who likes silly novelty, it's absolutely ideal. I'll go into a shop and there'll be a new one I've never tried before. There'll be one that inexplicably is sponsored by Lewis Hamilton. I've no idea why. One called Aussie Lemonade.
Starting point is 00:01:41 What makes it Australian? It's just lemonade. It's confusing. I like, I've seen one here called Monster Assault. It's apparently cola flavoured
Starting point is 00:01:50 but it's got a camouflage can. I mean, this is drinks for idiots, isn't it? Yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:01:56 it's drinks for SEAL Team 6, mate. That's what it is. Yeah. You want to be top of your game when you fall out
Starting point is 00:02:02 of a helicopter in a compound. Yeah, big time. You want to drink some of this. Yeah, that'll sort you out. Have a bit of this.
Starting point is 00:02:07 That'll definitely... I don't know what the caffeine level is compared to like a can of Coke, but presumably it's horrific. Because I've also just read that in Australia, the limit is 500 mils a day. 500 millilitres of Monster Energy? So 500 milligrams.
Starting point is 00:02:22 A day, I suppose. Okay, right, yeah. I mean, you shouldn't really be having more than one, but it just, I mean, I just don't understand what, like 150 milligrams is the same as a large latte
Starting point is 00:02:31 in Starbucks. And people hoover those things up during the day. Yeah. Am I babbling? I think I might be babbling. I'm all hot. I can't remember,
Starting point is 00:02:39 this is going to be a shit story because I can't actually remember the specifics, but I read a while back the amount, the total amount of cups of coffee drunk per day in london and it was an astonishing amount yeah it was three cups of sage for every human man woman and child in london right i mean yeah i think i when i used to sleep a lot more i would have two one maybe two cup maximum sometimes get away with just one
Starting point is 00:03:06 now i'm about five cups it's not good what's the latest in the day you'd have one uh to be honest i start to get very i'm up at about five these days and i'm starting to get quite sleepy about nine but i've still got things to do so i will invariably have a i'll maybe have a non-decaf tea at about six seven what a non-decaf tea so just a tea or just a tea like six seven and uh i'll i'll flirt with a coffee about half six i reckon yeah just to get me through just to get me through it's just yeah i'm always able to sleep, though. Though I do have very vivid dreams these days. I have probably three cups of tea in the morning, possibly, maybe two.
Starting point is 00:03:52 One after lunch and then one before bed. A little shot of tea before bed. Oh, a little non-decaf tea before bed? Yeah, but it's only a small one. Does that not send you absolutely loopy? Do you not dream about, like, getting, I don't know, getting fisted? Where'd that come like getting I don't know getting fisted where'd that come from
Starting point is 00:04:06 I haven't I haven't dreamed about that so far this is extreme someone's unleashed the ultra beast on me one always has one's fingers crossed
Starting point is 00:04:13 you know I don't find it I don't find it it stops me sleeping I'm actually traditionally I've said this to you before I know it's smug but I'm actually traditionally
Starting point is 00:04:22 touch wood always been a very good sleeper so it's not affected me that much I've got a to you before, I know it's smug, but I'm actually traditionally touched with always being a very good sleeper. So it's not affected me that much. I've got a few different techniques about how to sleep well, which work for me. I don't think they probably work for anyone else though. One of them involves the incredible amount of masturbation, actually. What is an incredible amount? That's the question.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Because I'll go toe-to-toe with that figure. Don't you worry about that, sunshine. Can I bring to the table, before this takes a real turn, can I bring to the table a story that was sent to us by many a listener? I've pulled out Davith here, who's one of the people that sent it. I guess he's the one I saw do it first, so he gets to credit. But loads of people have sent it in. And the headline is, and do you know what?
Starting point is 00:05:12 It is the most Pete Donaldson energy story of the year if this isn't you in 25 years time i don't know what is but um the story is as follows granddad spends 14 years camped in garden um a grandfather of three says he spent almost 14 years sleeping in a hammock in his garden. David Priestley, 68, so that literally would be 25 years' time, discovered outdoor sleeping helped soothe chronic back pain and keep his sinuses clear. This is a great quote. The former RAF armourer from Lincoln said, conventional indoor sleeping is overrated, adding, we're all animals and we've become indoctrinated to sleeping indoors.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Oh, God. He's eaten mice, hasn't he? He's just gone mad. But even if you look at the photos accompanying it, so first of all, massive kudos to Kevin Shoesmith of BBC News who got this story. And whoever went down and got the photos, well done. I know what you're thinking. You're thinking nice big lawn, beautiful hammock in between a couple of trees,
Starting point is 00:06:09 very bucolic, peaceful scene. Nah. He's in a built-up estate. He is in a built-up estate, yeah. He's got a patio. I mean, he's spending all of his time outside in the patio, but he needs to get control of those weeds. You're becoming dockerinated thinking that's okay to rewild your patio like that.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Outrageous. Someone who lives in the house opposite, which presumably on the first floor is their bedroom window, they wake up in the middle of the night or they wake up in the morning, look out their window, they are seeing a 68-year-old man sleeping in a hammock every single morning. They presume he's up early because it'll be cold in the winter.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Well, he seems to be quite... His reasoning, he sort of said that he believes that bedrooms are full of dust and before I was waking up with my nostrils full of gunk. And he also, he hurt his back and he says that all of his symptoms have been relieved by sleeping outside. So if it works for him, I kind of get it. Don't mind it. I can see you doing it. Yeah. him, I kind of get it. Don't mind it.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I can see you doing it. Yeah. I can definitely see you doing it. Here's what I can see happening. You just tell me if I'm wrong here, if I'm going off piste. You have an argument with the partner you have access to about some kind of dreadful habit you've got.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And you say, well, if that's how you feel, I'll just sleep in the garden then. And she says, that've got. Yeah. And you say, well, that's how you feel. I'll just sleep in the garden then. And she says, that's fine by me. And your pride and stubbornness means that you are actually out there. And I'm not saying you'd be out there for 14 years, but I could see you out there for a week or two
Starting point is 00:07:38 to prove a point. I think that I would enjoy the solitude. I'm rapidly understanding certain aspects of my father's routine um and and i understand why he's why he's taking control of the situation and he's getting up at one o'clock in the morning so yeah i i agree i think i could probably do yeah i could probably do if i could probably do a few days in in the wilderness so to speak in the wilderness of an estate in lincoln in the wilderness i i I totally get the idea of a well-appointed campsite, which isn't too busy,
Starting point is 00:08:11 and the weather being beautiful and very peaceful. I'm thinking like detectorist's energy. You know, one of those fields, it's beautifully shot and it looks and sounds amazing and there's no interference from modern amenities and all that kind of stuff. I get that. But in reality you
Starting point is 00:08:27 I mean it's just quite undignified to wake up in the morning and just shuffle through the back door to put the kettle on. I just feel like it's a little bit kind of depressing. A bit bleak. Yeah. I mean I think You'd also be absolutely stunned to hear that he's currently going through a divorce
Starting point is 00:08:44 this man. Yeah. I don't think that piece needed that bit of information. Although if you can put that information, put it at the top. Say, man who is currently going through a divorce is sleeping in garden. And then in brackets, unrelated. David has pointed out some of the highlights from this story that he read. So when visiting friends, he will simply find a local woods to sleep in or he attaches his hammock to a lamppost apparently.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Oh, so he's refusing at any point to... Which I think is actually... I mean, that is like proper register sign and stuff. It's naughty stuff. You can have a night off. Yeah, have a night off inside for crying out loud. Even Snoopy would sometimes
Starting point is 00:09:27 stay indoors with Charlie Brown. Yeah, exactly. He's going for a divorce, yeah, and his ex-wife did not enjoy sleeping
Starting point is 00:09:35 in the hammock. He's turned their bedroom into a workshop as well, apparently, which is another bit of dance and energy, that.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Yeah. I mean, we need to hear from his partner. How is Billy? How is Billy Piper? That's what we need to hear from um his partner how is billy um how is billy piper that's what we want to know i love it i'm always on you know what mate it is becoming epidemic how often i'm on lawrence fox's twitter good stuff they've all had a good week it's a proper um it's just it's just so compelling.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Like, some of the stuff he comes... Oh, my God. I wish you'd never brought it up. Sorry. We can move on to... Someone's got in trouble. People have been... Nigel Farage has been on an open top bus tour today and people have been throwing objects at him.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah, it's a great British sport, throwing stuff at Nigel Farage. It is a great British sport. I do... I do sort of think, though, like, fine, you've done that thing, but, like, you are going to get into trouble for throwing things at people. Like, I do sort of go, like, people who sort of, the sort of people who get in trouble for this sort of thing,
Starting point is 00:10:40 I don't think they realise that you can actually get a criminal record for doing it. So, I agree what you're saying and I understand what you mean but for, in your view, you're the judge or whatever and it's Farage,
Starting point is 00:10:54 you know, probably, you know, he's a crypto-fascist, right? Yeah. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:58 he's not going to spare any fucking sympathy for that dickhead. So, if you're the judge and you can use your discretion and some particularly
Starting point is 00:11:05 enterprising young chap or or whatever is is um is throwing something at farage at what point do you intervene and go you can't really throw that so for me yeah you can't really do that yeah milkshake fine yeah that's i mean no no criminal record um and i believe i think people got a criminal record but they had to dry clean the suit. I think that was the criminal damage aspect to it. I think they had to spend, I think it was like 350 quid or something. Where does he get his bloody suit dry cleaned? Yeah, but from Big Nigel's point of view,
Starting point is 00:11:37 he's going to go hard on that, isn't he? He's going to go for a good one. I think it's all fair in love and war. I wouldn't know how to spend more than 50 quid on dry cleaning a it's all fair in love and war. I wouldn't know how to spend more than 50 quid on dry cleaning. I wouldn't know how to, I wouldn't know where to go.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Mayfair, presumably. You're going to Mayfair, you're going for the super deluxe option, you're going for the 12 hour turnaround. You don't know where that is though. You don't know where that is.
Starting point is 00:11:57 But what I'm saying is, milkshake, no one's going to care. No. Brick, unacceptable. What's the cut off? What's the difference between...
Starting point is 00:12:07 What about... Someone just throws a marmoset at Farage, clings to his ear. What would you say? What would you say is unacceptable to throw at Nigel Farage? One of those kind of foam balls you used to get at school just sucked in piss
Starting point is 00:12:28 I think that's the limit heavy and wet with the combined cold piss of five men like just that, that's it particularly left wing men particularly left wing all gay
Starting point is 00:12:42 all that business gay LGBTQ all that all that all that business gay communist piss kicked really hard at Nigel Farage so much
Starting point is 00:12:52 a bit goes in his mouth a bit goes in his eye and all over the front of his shirt his white shirt
Starting point is 00:12:57 does he get pink eye or does he just not get any for a long time no no because unlike what Nigel Farage
Starting point is 00:13:04 would think none of the men have any issues with their reproductive not reproductive sexual urinary health
Starting point is 00:13:12 urinary health Peter I once got I once got doused with piss at a music festival lovely right okay
Starting point is 00:13:19 let me guess Reading Leeds it was V99 V99 because V was kind of like a spicy... Was it Essex and somewhere else? Yeah, it was in Chelmsford.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Chelmsford, right, okay. It was quite poppy. I obviously really like pop music. I wish that that still existed. I was watching the Happy Mondays at V99. And it was a really hot day. And I was standing quite in the front because I would have been
Starting point is 00:13:45 18 at the time and people are throwing beers and soft drinks and water and whatever that was just part of it
Starting point is 00:13:54 I guess people still do do that I don't know but it was happening obviously people throw beers when the England score and stuff and someone in front of me
Starting point is 00:14:01 got dinged with a can of beer which was like half full which was obviously fucking painful and that was bad and i remember them having to kind of walk off slink off yeah have a sit down and then and i was getting to the point where i was quite used to having stuff being thrown because obviously you're a bit sweaty it's a hot day drinks are being thrown you just kind of you know you just kind of get used to it and then i remember something coming over from the left of me smashing my mate
Starting point is 00:14:26 in like the shoulder and it was like a bottle of piss with the lid off and it went everywhere and it was hot and it was warm hot warm piss
Starting point is 00:14:35 yeah it wasn't great it wasn't fucking great but your whole dehydrated man piss as well yeah I'm presuming it was a man
Starting point is 00:14:42 I mean it's gonna be a man it's gonna be a man let's be absolutely fair it's gonna be a man so look I know how N nice may feel in the next week or two when it happens to him inevitably but i think not look i don't want to i don't want to say that i endorse political violence because i don't broadly speaking i don't care if people are if people are gonna but i don't care if people who espouse um fascist views get a good old slap around the chops i'm not going to but i don't care if people who espouse um fascist views get a good old slap around the chops i'm not going to give them any sympathy i'll i'll happily live in a country where
Starting point is 00:15:11 that's the case because fucking fascism doesn't belong in our society and um i think if nige is going to do what nice does big nige he needs to understand there's a fucking comeback to that if you want to go if you want to go to fucking a particularly right wing part of Clacton and talk a load of lies about foreign people and get deplored it when people get upset about that you need to take the fucking bad stuff as well that's how it goes that's the deal you've done I think a lot of people
Starting point is 00:15:35 walk around like they like they couldn't be punched in the face do you know what I mean big time the way people the way people conduct themselves is they live their lives like they're never going to get punched in the face. And some people need a punch in the face. And some people also go through their adult life
Starting point is 00:15:52 because a bigger boy hasn't given them a slap when they were a teenager. Correct. They haven't had the writing mechanism that says, actually, there's a lot of people out here who are bigger and tougher than you and that's what the world's all about. Now, I'm not suggesting anyone should get injured or there should be some awful... I'm not saying there should be a breeze block in his face
Starting point is 00:16:06 i'm just saying there's a there's a equal and opposite reaction to every action nigel and if you're gonna what if you want to be the big man on campus don't be surprised if some boys in the year above or in this case some you know some left-wing school school valedictorians yeah yeah um so chuck a milkshake in your gob. Exactly. Enjoy it. Free milkshake. Like when George Bush got it.
Starting point is 00:16:29 George Bush got it. Did George Bush get a milkshake? No, he got a shoe, didn't he? Oh, he got a shoe. Yeah, yeah. I remember Shoe Man. And what did he say? He's still on Twitter, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:16:36 Shoe Man. I seem to recall, yeah. How is he? George Bush. He still pops up here and there. George W. Bush. I'm not going to endorse him. He's not running for president this year,
Starting point is 00:16:44 and I'm not American anyway, but as a general rule, I'm not endorsing endorse him. He's not running for president this year and I'm not American anyway but as a general rule I'm not endorsing him but I will say this. Nigel Farage complains Good at ducking. Good at ducking. Yeah, Nigel Farage complains
Starting point is 00:16:52 and cries and gets fucking someone prosecuted. George Bush skillfully dodged it and the first thing he said was I can confirm the guy's a size 10. You know, it's great bad enough. He's a dangerous vibe master.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Bit of back and forth. Bit of back and forth is all we ask for. Yeah, indeed. All right, we're going to take a short break and we're back with some emails, if that's all right with you. We're back with some emails. It's the Luke and Pete show. We're doing emails for Crying Out Loud.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Let's get rid of some of these bloody emails for Crying Out Loud. It's stressing me out. I look at the little Luke and Pete show email box. I don't know how to access it. No, you don't. And't know how to access it no you don't and and it says like 900 uh emails or let's get through something shall we all right so here's one from chris he says hi lucard pete i enjoyed your candle chat uh on an earlier episode the partner i have access to brackets p hat good oh right um we also enjoy and i we also enjoy a
Starting point is 00:17:41 scented candle particularly musky slash smoky ones. Now, that's interesting, Chris, because I don't really like a smoky flavour or fragrance. Really? I'm not really a smoker. If something is smoked, I don't really like to eat it. Mackerel, whiskey? No. I mean, I like mackerel, but the smokiness, the acridity of it, it's not really something that vibes with me.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Interesting. Yeah, I like mackerel, but the smokiness, the acridity of it, it's not really something that vibes with me. But Chris says, look, I feel the need to draw your attention to these candles, photo attached, mandarin and cedar from Lidl. We are stockpiling them in the fear they might not be around forever. They're cheap as chips and last well. Plus our house smells of beautiful bonfires. All the best, Chris from Wiltshire. Beautiful bonfires. Now, we said the other day, Pete,
Starting point is 00:18:26 that a lot of the cheaper candles on the market can be overpowering, smell a bit cheap. What we would recommend is maybe just buy a third of the amount you normally would and just spend three times the amount of money because you're going to get a far better value out of it. But Chris is saying, listen, guys, call your jets. Get yourself down to Lidl
Starting point is 00:18:44 and enjoy the luxury collection mandarin and cedarwood range from them I think that I walked I was in Lidl earlier today and I walked past the centre aisle I'm in the market for an impact
Starting point is 00:18:59 driver a drill it's a drill for ball I said what the hell who the hell is that nothing it's just a drill for bolts I said what the hell who the hell is that what that now what even the hell is that
Starting point is 00:19:10 and we get and to get what do you need it for just car stuff anyway and I don't know the strength of it I think I'm starting
Starting point is 00:19:17 to get like some kind of arthritis I can't I couldn't open a pickle jar last week tragic absolutely tragic and yeah
Starting point is 00:19:24 so I'm in the back of that and I walked past one that was like 60 quid in Lidl and it was an alright price but can someone let me know whether it's okay stuff? I'm not a heavy I'm not going to be a heavy user. I'm not a mechanic. I just need to get rid of some bolts, alright?
Starting point is 00:19:39 Just need to just get things off and get things on nice and quick on the rare occasion I fly over. Like a Formula 1 pit stop. Like a Formula 1 pit stop. I just need to get things off and get things on nice and quick. Like a Formula One pit stop. Like a Formula One pit stop. I just need to get stuff off quickly. Now, I need to know whether this stuff is passable. I know it's not going to be good.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I know all of the models and the makes are weird brands you've never heard of before, and the batteries are all incompatible, even though they've got the same lithium cells in them. I just need to know, are they broadly okay for the money or shall I just buy cheap Chinese ones from Amazon? So if someone can let me know, that will be cracking. I think you know the answer, don't you? Yeah, I know in my heart but I still walk past it and I'm still
Starting point is 00:20:20 thinking about it. Still thinking about driving over that arterial road and getting myself that impact driver. I just know exactly where it is in the store. I know exactly where it's sitting. We should have listeners
Starting point is 00:20:32 get involved on that, I reckon. Weed burner as well. A paraffin or whatever kind of gas propellant. Weed burner as well to burn your weeds.
Starting point is 00:20:44 But I think that might be a little bit anti-social if I'm burning my weeds all over the gaff you could go take it round to that guy who's got a weedy garden and sleeps with his hammock exactly I could help him out for crying out loud nothing to say on the candles from Chris but thanks for letting us know Chris
Starting point is 00:21:00 it's a top tip for people who want a cheap candle to fragrance their home and I have to say the photo you attach it doesn't look like you've got a lovely home. It's a lovely home. I imagine a lot of delicious smoked salmon in the fridge, delicious smoked whiskey in the drinks cabinet. So the general rule is that if you're talking about Scotch, the further west of Scotland you go, the more peaty and smoky it is, right?
Starting point is 00:21:21 I think so. Right, okay. And the further east you go, the sweeter it can tend to be. So like your Laphroaig's and your Talisker's and stuff, they're all out west, I think. I'm not really a whiskey expert, but my friend Phil, who owns a hotel in Scotland, he does a brilliant whiskey tasting thing
Starting point is 00:21:36 at his boutique hotel. And his thing is, he says, you might think whiskey is not for you, but I bet if you just tell me the foods and the drinks that you do like, I'll find you a whiskey that will suit because there's one out there for everyone. And he did is not for you, but I bet if you just tell me the foods and the drinks that you do like, I'll find you a whiskey that will suit because there's one out there for everyone. And he did do that for me,
Starting point is 00:21:49 which is very, very impressive. There is so much kind of changeability, variability in whiskey. It's a really, if I was going to be a big spirits guy, I think whiskey would be my one because there's some lovely drops out there. Laphroaig is obviously
Starting point is 00:22:05 a very bargain-based one but I don't like smoky whiskey. Yeah, it's pretty standard stuff in it. It's pretty standard stuff in it but I think you can
Starting point is 00:22:14 but when I'm in a bar and I fancy whiskey I'll have a Laphroaig because it's just guaranteed lovely smoky. Yeah, so you can buy I mean there are
Starting point is 00:22:22 limited edition Laphroaigs here available for £1,200 a bottle. I'm just looking now. Lordy. But you're right in saying I mean, there are limited edition Laphroaig's here available for £1,200 a bottle. I'm just looking now. Lordy. But you're right in saying that, you know, they've generally got 30 quid a go. Somebody pointed out that Mad...
Starting point is 00:22:30 You know, MD2020, it doesn't stand for Mad Dog. What does it stand for? It stands... It's a man's name. MD2020. Huh. Oh, Mag and David. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:42 That's weird. Yeah. Everyone just called it... Thought it was Mad Dog. I mean, of course it's not Mad Dog. Yes. That's weird. Yeah. Everyone just called it, thought it was Mad Dog. I mean, of course it's not Mad Dog. Nobody wants to sell that. I hadn't thought about MD2020 until it came up a couple of weeks ago
Starting point is 00:22:51 for about 20 years. Yeah. Let's finish up with this email from Graham. He says, Hi, Luke and Pete. I was listening to the episode of the show titled, I have absolutely definitely not shit myself.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I think producer Taylor might have named that. She names all of them. And Luke challenged anyone to name an artist that releases good music in their later years other than David Bowie and Nick Cave now yeah I did say that it was something I was genuinely interested in now this episode came out exactly a month ago so probably someone's already sent this in already but in case they haven't I submit Johnny Cash. I believe his series of albums in the American series 1994 to 2010
Starting point is 00:23:29 to all be some of his best albums. American Five was released in 2006, and the songs were recorded in May and to August of 2003 before he passed away that September. The whole album is excellent. And he goes on to say that it's brilliant look I do agree with that actually I think it's a really good shout um I would say though that for me and this is just a personal opinion for me um Johnny Cash the best Johnny Cash records are um are the kind of live ones he did way back in the day so san quentin false
Starting point is 00:24:06 in prison that kind of stuff and what i'd also add is um the these later records i'm pretty sure i'm right in saying he wrote hardly any of the songs on them i think a lot of them were written by someone else that kind of covers which may or may not colour your opinion of them but I'm just saying it's not to me it's not entirely the same thing what I was actually saying it's a hell of a good buy
Starting point is 00:24:29 it's a hell of a good buy though isn't it those couple of albums oh it's good stuff like you know stuff like God's Gonna Cut You Down which is a traditional song which is amazing
Starting point is 00:24:37 and his delivery of it is fucking unparalleled I'm not suggesting as a performer or a singer or a charisma bomb he's not worthy of it of course he is
Starting point is 00:24:44 but we're talking about with Cave is. But we're talking about, with Cave and Bowie, we're talking about their writing genuinely interesting stuff still in their later life, I suppose, which is the caveat. But I'm not going to be churlish about it. I'm not going to deny Graham's point, because I think it's a good one. My personal view is, though, that the earlier stuff is still far better.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I think Folsom Prison and San Quentin are two of the very best live albums ever in my view. You kind of forget how many albums he put out. I went to Nashville to his museum and it was very amusing because half of it was dedicated to his wife and 10% of it was dedicated in this particular way to Roy Orbison.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I think they'd run out of space, run out of trinkets and this and that. But there's a lot of hawky shit in the 80s. That's it. Of course. The best artists
Starting point is 00:25:33 put out some absolutely fucking hawky Christmas albums and all that shit. There were so many artists where the 80s was so unkind to them. Like Smokey Robinson,
Starting point is 00:25:44 fucking hell. Some of the Smokey Robinson stuff in the 80s, you think, to them. Like, you know, Smokey Robinson, fucking hell. Some of the Smokey Robinson stuff in the 80s, you think, how can this be the same guy that's written like the stuff he wrote in the 60s and to some extent the 70s?
Starting point is 00:25:53 And I think there's a lot of really awful Paul McCartney stuff in the 80s as well. But let me just make this point again just to reiterate it. So if you take American 4, The Man Comes Around,
Starting point is 00:26:03 the record, you know, obviously previous to American Five that Graham's talking about. What are the songs that put him back on the map and give him this late career resurgence? Well,
Starting point is 00:26:11 Her is one of them and that's Trent Reznor. And the other one is his version of Depeche Mode's Personal Jesus. These are covers, right? Wichita Lineman as well. That's not one of his. So I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:26:21 they're amazingly delivered. They're brilliant performances. But it's not really the same thing in my view but it is a valid contribution to the discussion and I thank Graham for contributing it yeah well you can contribute let us know what faded rock star you want to put in the dock you look to you look to look to point at and say this isn't good enough this simply isn't good enough at hellotlookandpeachshow.com
Starting point is 00:26:47 is the way to do that send your battery brands things you found on the internet pictures of your mum I don't know whatever you want I'm not that sounds bad
Starting point is 00:26:55 just pictures of your pictures of your family alright just clothed pictures of your family what are you doing hellotlookandpeachshow I don't know
Starting point is 00:27:01 I always fall to bits I do it alright and then I panic and then yeah I'm definitely on the come down. I'm sort of 40 minutes into my Monster Energy Ultra Peachy Keen trip
Starting point is 00:27:11 and I'm heading out of it. And, you know, I'm starting to sort of come back to consciousness. It's not right. Anyway, we'll be back on Thursday for Battery Brands. Take care of yourselves.
Starting point is 00:27:19 See you later. We'll see you soon. Bye. Bye. The Luke and Pete Show is a Stack Production and part of the ACAST Creator Network.

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