The Luke and Pete Show - Guitar Solo Eye Contact

Episode Date: September 18, 2025

Welcome to your all-new episode of The Luke and Pete Show! Recording late because Pete forgot about it and decided to take his computer apart instead, the lads aren't deterred and get straight in...to picking the bones out of Alapacafest 2025, Essex's premium alpaca-themed festival, with tech support provided by Mr Donaldson Esq. Spoiler alert: no-one was electrocuted! There's always next year though...Elsewhere Luke gets depressed at internet men drinking Heineken in bed, the lads both admit to being intimidated by music shops, and Mike Tyson drops MrBeast with a body shot - finally a celebrity boxing event we can all get behind!Email us: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com! You can also get in touch on X, Threads or Instagram if character-restricted messaging takes your fancy.Please fill out Stak's listener survey! It'll help us learn more about the content you love so we can bring you even more - you'll also be entered into a competition to win one of five PlayStation 5's! Click here: https://bit.ly/staksurvey2025 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:57 So we're better to keep up to speed. with English football's best division. Just search seconds here in your podcast app. Do you subscribe and listen now. It's the Luca P. Chopin-Doulson with you on Thursday, the 18th of September. I've got a sore tongue. Luke, how's your tongue going?
Starting point is 00:01:26 Tong is fine. Nothing massive to report. I can absolutely keep you appraised if it would be helpful. Keep me a breast of your tongue, please. That would be great. That's not the first time you've said that. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:01:39 You dirty boy. Yeah. We're starting this record of the show a little bit late because I just forgot that it was a Tuesday. That's good, isn't it? Yeah. Just, yeah, me handbags in the fridge. Do you know what I thought, though? I'm going to the perimenopause.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I don't know what's going on. I messaged, well, in this case, you've been going through the perimenopause for about 15 years. Yeah, the piti-pals. Yeah. I message you about, I don't know what it was, I'd only give people about a 10 minute grace period before I think, have I got this wrong, then I double check and then I message. And I'm message, so I'm ready when you are, mate.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I will not have that for it. I will not have this 10 minute grace period. It is at maximum two minutes. That's all you get with, Lukum. Let me look and see when I messaged you. If this is a bad example, if this is a bad example, this is the thing that proves the rule, unfortunately. I was different.
Starting point is 00:02:24 It was five past. You've usually done the, One minute, at one minute you usually in a public forum say, I'm ready, indicating that either person isn't ready, and then you may go on your private channels and go, sorry, what is happening here? So it's, yeah. And you know if it gets to your private channels, you're in trouble. You've fucked something with loki-mo.
Starting point is 00:02:48 You just know. Is it fair to say that, like, it's a kind of, it's a bit six and two-threes, because on one hand, that is the pettiness for which my reputation, I deserve my reputation for but on the other hand is there a slight part of it which is like this is why we're still doing all right
Starting point is 00:03:04 because some people do hold the standards up yeah I guess so I mean I have no room to talk today because I was at least 25 minutes late which is why we should be having the conversation right now let's not do it in a couple of weeks when you've done really well and I've been shit
Starting point is 00:03:19 let's not do that let's not do that let's do it some other time let's say that that senator was saying after the sad death of Charlie Kirk said, well, let's not, let's be very clear on this. This is all about the Democrats.
Starting point is 00:03:33 And they said, well, what about when the Democratic person got shot and her husband? And he went, oh, we are talking about Charlie Kirk now. It's a surreal. Oh, yeah, you're not even hiding it. You weren't expecting that, were you? That's what I have to do with certain family members, right? Because basically, the whole American political system is just basically, what about this year, but what about this year, but what about this, right?
Starting point is 00:03:55 Certain family members of mine, which are, who are even more, more abrasive than I am, if you can believe that. Sometimes I have, I do have to say, okay, yeah, we can do that in a minute, happy to do that, but at the moment we're talking about this, so let's just do this, and then once we get that done, we can go on to, you know, the fact that I did something two years ago, whatever, but let's just stick on this for now, otherwise just go around circles. That's basically me with certain members of my family and with you. Right, okay. It's a what about is a merry go around.
Starting point is 00:04:26 And I think I can tell that you are genuinely contrite because you haven't even done a little comedy name in your Riverside recording software today. Well, I'm on a different laptop. I decided to take, what I did was the only recording device I have in the house. I decided to, quite brave of me, I think, just take it apart today.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I think, you know what? A couple of these hard drives aren't registering in the CMOS. Let's figure out what's gone on wrong there because it might be indicative of a wider problem that will cause more trouble of my recording studio down the line. Took it all apart. And then I made myself a cup of coffee.
Starting point is 00:04:58 And then, look, he moves on the phone saying, we're supposed to be recording. I was God, this is the worst day to do this. I've got home records to do. Well, I wasn't actually on the phone because when I called you, you didn't answer. Exactly. We couldn't do that on the phone.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And just for the record, for those of you listening, who care how, for Stadis, I am with the details, I called Peter at eight minutes past the hour, three minutes after there was no response to the WhatsApp messages. It's fine. It doesn't matter. It's no problem. Just scroll up a little bit further,
Starting point is 00:05:25 and it'll be like, oh, I've just on a phone call. Can you wait five minutes? Disgusting. How many annoyed zombies do you see around here? I know. Two of them. Two of them, but one's pretending he isn't. But it's been a trying time, but that's how it goes.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Listen, it's not so bad that you forgot momentarily because you've always got access to recording equipment and you're always generally pretty hard working, pretty available. My heart did sink a little bit when you said that you've taken your computer apart. That, to me, felt like it might make the thing a little bit more problematic. But I can lop together a corning device with two potatoes and a bit of string, me these days.
Starting point is 00:06:03 That's what you're doing now. I've had so many issues in the past with things that, you know, remote recordings and that. Let's move beyond this because I don't think it's a particularly interest to our listenership. But what is of particularly interest to lapses everywhere is that it was Alpacafest last weekend. And we need to get to the bottom of how Alpaca, went. I've got so many questions. I'll limit them to just a few for now. How many alpaca were there? How many people were there? Did everything you organised go well? Did the PA work? Why was there a car with cockpice partridge on the side of it in the photo? Tell me
Starting point is 00:06:38 it all I need to know. There was my neighbour to fill people in, um, owns alpacas and he, in his mum and dad's old, um, house slash land. And he decided, um, because he's a man of action and a man of creation and a man of industry. He decided to do a music festival slash alpaca festival, and he called an alpacaloosa. Were the alpacos playing the music? No, the alpacas just sort of came out, said a loo, went off, and then
Starting point is 00:07:06 throughout the day you could take children and interested onlookers to go and meet and stroke and, you know, walk around with the alpacas, which is very, very nice, lovely thing to do. Did the daughter you have access to enjoyed him? Was she frightened? I had a great time, enjoyed the alpacres, the chickens that were there, didn't get involved in the rather perilous go-carting that was the taking place.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I did go around the carts in the week when I was helping doing a setup, and it was perilous. And I did say to him, Teenage and upwards only, please. Teenage's not only there's no way. Probably he took a licence to you for that. I think the waivers that were signed as people were coming in covered a multitude of sins. And it's on private land? and it's on private land I guess
Starting point is 00:07:53 does that count? I don't know. It was like Michael Carrow when he won the lottery and he had that dirt track. Yeah, could, very much that vibe. Very mad maxi it was. They made a big alpaca sort of wooden,
Starting point is 00:08:03 with all pallets and bits of wood. They made a little sort of like a life size wooden alpaca and then set fire to it at the end like they would come on. It was really, really good stuff. And I was in charge. Were you greeted by good weather?
Starting point is 00:08:17 For the most part and then for when the youngest band, the band with more to live for, got on the stage suddenly started to rain, which really put the wind up me, because a lot of the electrics were not grounded as well as I'd like. Your eye
Starting point is 00:08:32 was just cast towards like random bits of gaffer tape from your position. Yeah, just sort of going, we need to cover it. But the thing about speakers is and peers and, you know, orange amps, you can't cover, you can't wrap them up because they will explode. So they do need fans and
Starting point is 00:08:48 they do need the air. So, No, a good time I was that by all. The bands were excellent. How many people attended? 200, I think, in the end, pretty much. Not bad? It was really pretty pretty done. Yeah, I think $7 each, so probably would have made a, you know, maybe...
Starting point is 00:09:05 Well, that's only barely covered your feet plus VAT, I know, right? I know, right? But, well, I mean, I did buy a guitar lead to fit together the appear, but it wasn't needed in the end, and so I'm a bit annoyed that I'm 30 quid down. But now I've got a really fancy guitar lead I'll never use, so. I'll have it. You can have it. It's very long. You can walk around the house.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I don't know. It was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a boogey brand because it was 30 quid. But it was,
Starting point is 00:09:30 it was pretty, pretty solid. I also bought two drumsticks as well from, from Mali's music on the high streets. Well, you said for Mawley's chicken.
Starting point is 00:09:38 From Mollie's chicken. From, from a guitar shop. I've never been in, but it's really good. I recommend their collection of ukuleleleys and guitars. The,
Starting point is 00:09:47 the, the, um, the, the phenomenon of the music shop is a very, very rich seam to mine for conversation, I think. Right. I mean, have you kind of, did you spend your formative years in music shops, guitar shops? I certainly did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Big time. Yeah. And you could have a kid there who, say I used to go into them when I was like 14, which I did. You could have a kid in there who's probably just left school. Yeah. And retrospectively got respect, you know, respect. but you know for the purposes of a story yeah got absolutely no prospects whatsoever but because he works in the music shop and you're 14 fucking how you're so intimidated by him
Starting point is 00:10:29 yeah and then some of the nerds and solid sounds as well in harleypool yep same same he ramps up the intimidation by um by playing guitar sellers and just and never breaking eye contact with you do you know what i mean like he's looking at you it's rarefied air in there isn't it it's kind of you go in and it's quite um it's quite scary and and you're right like If you sort of said, told anyone completely apart from the shop that you worked in the music shop, picked up like, oh, right, okay, and you're in, and you're in your 40s. But you go in there. I remember, I think I've bought one guitar from a guitar shop,
Starting point is 00:11:06 rather than, you know, a second-hand Facebook marketplace job. So I think I've only ever bought one, and I was 19, and it was from the guitar shop in Lester. And I had to pay in installments. It was only like, two quid. as well. I don't know how I thought I could afford a Dan Electro and not, you know, and having to pay like 20 quid installments over the weeks. I couldn't make credit in the end and my friend had to do the credit for me. But like that's the only time I've ever sat down and actually played a guitar in front of anyone in a guitar shop. Otherwise, I've never taken one
Starting point is 00:11:42 off the wall. I've never tried one out. But nowadays, I still don't think I'd do it, to be honest. I'd still love that. You'd have a go, you'd sit down at the door. No, I think I think even I, someone who has got quite a lot of misplaced overconfidence, would even struggle in a guitar shop, music shop, chiefly because I'm just not that good a guitarist, and I'll be self-conscious about it. And I know all the, I'd probably know all the right questions to ask, but I wouldn't really be to demonstrate an ability that, that kind of matches that knowledge. And for example, when I went to get, and we talked about guitar last time, didn't we, talking about guitars again. When I last went to get, when I
Starting point is 00:12:20 last went to get a guitar, um, I picked up, um, my Gretsch from Denmark street, but I took my friend Blair, who's like a professional singer-songwriter, partly because he'll get me a discount as a professional musician, but also because he can just do all the stuff for me. Right. And he managed to get me, um, yeah, he just managed to get me a free hard case with it, like 50 quid off it, all sorts. And then
Starting point is 00:12:42 you know what I did? I've got a Fender Blues deluxe amp, which I love. And I just got that online. I just I can't, I don't want to pretend I know about different guitar sounds to that level. An Amson, Amson, Amp though, isn't it? Yeah, I think so. I think so. But I think, I think that music shops are uniquely intimidating. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Because it's not only that you're playing the guitar or trying the guitar out with the shop assistant. It's just that everyone else can hear you as well. And so it's, yeah, it's pretty intimidating. But you didn't get up on stage and play a number yourself, no? No, no, I, uh, there was one sort of school band that came up and that was the band were playing when a very gifted drummer on the old on the old skins um and uh they they were really good but they didn't have their singer let them down at the last minute and if i'd have known if i'd have known that their set list was enter sandman another metallica song uh foo fighters
Starting point is 00:13:36 ever long a green deer i would have been straight up there helping them out i would have been straight up there helping them out on my with my karaoke setting on the uh on the pier that i'd just set up it would have been like the manifestation of one of my repetitive recurring dreams um anxiety dreams for me that that's unbelievable that um the um the singer didn't turn up i mean that's page one stuff mate you got have a passion for the rock and roll what's he doing that is bad form isn't it yeah i do sort of think that um i did sort of think that he probably saw the site and probably just kept walking because it was the peer that i'd set up he'd um Damien bought a PA from
Starting point is 00:14:15 some block in Birmingham off face-up marketplace. He's a big face-up marketplace guy is Damien. That's probably where you've gotten so well, isn't it? Exactly. Oh, he's me, but with results. And he got that and he... So what I'm thinking about Rick Edwards. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And he's got the height. Yeah, Rick Evans is everything I am, but like, just better. Second go. He's had a second go to that. Better university, more handsome, funnier, a dress is better. Doesn't have to hang out with me all the time.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Yeah. The, I only had three mics to play with, basically. So I had to prioritise vocals. Guitar gets a mic and bass, bass would get a mic. Drums, just going to have to look after themselves, to be honest. What do you mean, so you're basically micing up the amps on this?
Starting point is 00:15:04 That's how much of a serious setup is. That sounds quite good. That's how much of a serious set. Were you mixing it, were you mixing it live as well? I was mixing it live. I was mixing it. I was giving it mixing a blend line. Rains hammering down the faders.
Starting point is 00:15:16 You're like basically the captain who strapped himself to a mast of a ship in a storm. It's like when Prince did the suitable half-time shore. Make it rain harder. Make it rain harder. That's amazing. So it was a success then?
Starting point is 00:15:30 It really was. Yeah, it went really well. I think. Same time next year? Same time next year. But I will be needing everything to be pat tested. And why was there a cockpit partridge car in the field? Damien's got a mate
Starting point is 00:15:43 I think is a mechanic who asked for him to leave some cars on his land somewhere and so dotted around the sort of festival site was just a load of old cars and an old MG was in the middle of the site and he said instead of moving it he just thought he'd write Alpac a loser on one side
Starting point is 00:16:02 and Cockbbs Babtridge on the side which is very funny there's this in this MG I mean if you if that was like a well-kept car that would have been like you know 20 grand's worth of car but because it's just been sat in the rain
Starting point is 00:16:16 for you know 15 years it's a wreck I smell a Donaldson project I did look at it and go and the engine bear because the old cars there's just there's no there's lots of wasted room
Starting point is 00:16:29 you can really get in there if you need to change a timing belt it's just there like on my car can't you got to take about a million things to get in there but this car had a like a black
Starting point is 00:16:40 Instead of like those hard plastic bottles you get to fill up the windscreen washer fluid, it had like a bladder, like a sort of squishy bladder. Like a wine skin. Like a wine skin in this MG and I was thinking, oh, that's the forbidden water, isn't it? That is some seriously old water in a bladder, sort of hermetically sealed. Do you reckon? Oh, but it tastes lovely. It'd be musty.
Starting point is 00:17:04 It'd be really musty. I don't know. Would it be musty or because it would be kind of, it would be kind of nice, wouldn't it? it would be, there'd be some kind of, like, um, solvent in there, wouldn't there, to clean, clean the window. It's, oh, I just want to drink it. I can't stop thinking about this bladder. Did you taste it?
Starting point is 00:17:21 I didn't taste it. No, I gave it a little reassuring pat, and it felt like, um, you know, like those, it was exactly the same configuration as like, um, uh, a breast implant. It looked like a breast implant. I patted it or thorestably. It'd either be like a super water that would give you amazing strength and resilience, or it would be, hello, legionaire's disease. It'd kill me immediately.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Yeah, he just dropped down dead right there, isn't you? I'm pleased you had a nice time anyway, though. Good on you. Yeah, I tell you what, it's not every day I work for seven hours on my feet. And I was like, oh, this is what proper people do, in it? Rigging and taping things up and, yeah, it's fun. There was a funny debate in it. I was at a friend's house weekend before last and just visiting for the weekend.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And the wife has just started working for the first time in ages since the kids got a bit older. Yeah. And there was an amazing debate between her and her husband, both of whom are friends of mine, about who works harder. And the husband's position was, I've had a full-time job solidly for the last 25 years. Right. And her, I would say, probably slightly more shaky position was, yeah, but I'm now working and I'm on my feet all day.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Right. Okay. Even though I'm only a week and a half into my career. You'd want a few more weeks into. You've got to eat your feet under the table. Your feet under the night-existent desk. Exactly. The standing desk, if you will.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I remember when we moved to our new studio and I did a show standing up and I was terrible. I was in pain. I used to love him. I used to record standing up. It was brilliant. Yeah, we used to do, didn't we? I used to do all of my shows.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Pretty much standing up. Yeah, it was. Because we were young, I guess. It was Russell Brandon and Jonathan Ross ringing a national icon. An elderly gentleman. An elderly gentleman, yeah. Ringing up an elderly gentleman.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Speaking of elderly gentlemen. to him. Did you see Mike Tyson punch Mr. Beast in the stomach and floored him? He did, yeah. I thought of you instantly. Oh, well, he's a Donaldson. Please him, on there. He's Mr. Beast, yeah. It was good because, um, it's funny because, like, some, the first, one of the first comments on the video was, he's got Crohn's disease. He bloody has now.
Starting point is 00:19:26 He's got all sorts of colitis. Um, but, uh, yeah, I think you said at the time, it's an incredible passage because, like, if you were to say, if you were someone like Mr. Beast, who I presume has got, uh, just kind of poor knowledge of boxing and boxers, right? Yeah. And you're in some kind of celebrity situation or a TV broadcast or whatever, and you said to a retired professional boxer of some repute, punch me in the stomach.
Starting point is 00:19:52 To be fair to Mr. Beast, 99% of them would say, I'm not going to do that. Yeah. It's not responsible. Mark Haynes and me asked George Foreman to punch our hands, and he refused to. Yeah. The late great, by the way.
Starting point is 00:20:05 The late great, George Foreman. Unfortunately, Mike Tyson doesn't call it. quite fit in that bracket and is a very unpredictable man and seems to be governed almost entirely by impulse. Vibe. He's a vibeman. He's a vibesman. And the great thing about it was the punch doesn't need to be that hard if you're Mike Tyson at the age of 60. It doesn't matter. You said that Mike Tyson, if you ever needed to know that the recent Jake Paul, Mike Tyson
Starting point is 00:20:31 match wasn't on the level, you would probably say that you see that. Well, I think that the problem, if you want to get technical about it, as technical as I can get about boxing, the problem with, say, Mike Tyson and Jake Paul as having a fight, even though it's an exhibition fight, is that he's always going to be able to punch, right? But he, I mean, if you look at, say, he fought a guy called Kevin McBride in about 2005, right, who respectfully, and no one. one who gets into a professional boxer ring is a nobody but relatively speaking is a nobody right and he was stopped by him because at the time he was about 40 and you can't take a shot when you're 40 right you can't which then makes you really nervous or uh kind of apprehensive about getting involved in the fight and if you're going up against jake paul who is a novice but is you know he's strong i've got all the training in the world train's hard all the time he's about 25 years old in the prime of his life
Starting point is 00:21:36 it's not realistic to suggest that he's not going to get tagged. And the reasoning, obviously, I don't know what went on behind the scenes, but clearly it was an exhibition for exhibition's sake. But Mike Tyson is not going to unload on him. And even if he does, he's going to be so worried about getting tapped on the chin, it's not good. Standing next to an internet nerd, albeit a successful one, and accepting an invitation to dig him in the summer.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Let loose the gods of war. The dogs of war, the gods of war, all the gods of war. All the gods of war. So it was just funny because I think also what's interesting about it is the idea that boxers are trained to punch in a completely different way. They don't basically arm punch, but we would. They punch from their fucking shoes and you're going to feel it, right? But do we know if Mr. Beast is expected to make a full recovery?
Starting point is 00:22:23 His eyes really did bug out. He was really sort of like, I can't believe I've done this. I can't believe he did this. I mean, bearing of mind, like he's probably going to be the first, if indeed he hasn't reached it like the first YouTuber billionaire like he's supposed to be
Starting point is 00:22:37 they reckon that he's going to be the first one if indeed he's never he's not all he got there but that is very funny that is bloody funny that's to be funny everyone's got a plan
Starting point is 00:22:46 so they get punched in the stomach by Mike Tyson specifically by Mikey T yeah crazy all right mate let's have a break
Starting point is 00:22:53 when we come back we've got three new batteries to get stuck into and I'm bloody looking forward to it lovely lovely lovely could beecho um we say lovely in that way uh because there is a stand-up a welsh uh local
Starting point is 00:23:08 concern on instagram who can drink like a fish and me and look uh very much enjoy his little what i drink into their dear um sort of videography uh productions yeah so he's a carcosandro four and he does a podcast called the problematic pub podcast or something it's bad i mean it's bad stuff um but um his videos is pieces to camera on the um the um the sheer volume of what he's able to drink on holiday for example I mean it's astonishing it is an incredible amount
Starting point is 00:23:41 yeah and I keep saying lovely eat because I like the way he says lovely he's Welsh he's Welsh we looked into it and I think I did I did one I basically noted down the things that he drank in his little video Instagram video thing in the day and it was for an example it was something like
Starting point is 00:24:00 16 pints like four tall gin and tonics quite a few shots and do you know what the one thing that really kind of disturbs me more than anything else because you know you do what you want to do it's none of my business but one would suggest
Starting point is 00:24:16 if you're uploading it to the internet and promoting it you probably want people to comment on it so that's what I'm going to do the thing that really upset me was just the absolutely needless bottle of Heineken in bed before you're about to go to sleep what are you getting out of that right
Starting point is 00:24:31 This is what I don't get, right? So I understand, I understand if you go into the pub, you have a few beers and someone invites you back to their place, you have a few more drinks or whatever, and you want to keep the night going. The people who go home on their own and carry on drinking beers after they've already had an absolute skinfall, who's that for? Once you're on the bus home, you don't need any more. Your head is on the pillow, why are you drinking from a bottle of Heineken?
Starting point is 00:24:54 I think it's a legitimate question. I think it is a legitimate question. But my point is that my daughter keeps on saying, lovely. Like him, yeah, which is rather upsetting. As she's scoovering down some lichen. They basically repeat everything you say. Yeah, it's mad, absolutely mad. Yeah, incredible.
Starting point is 00:25:14 You've got to be careful, Peter. You've got to be careful with the things I say and the opinions, my politics. Right, Dave has got in touch via the method of, I don't know, probably an email, I imagine. These are all emails. These are all emails. Messrs. Morton Donaldson, having been on a bit of a drought with battery resourcing during work travels to Airbnbs of various. I then accidentally tripped over one at a work site.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Contained within a Siemens PLC unit, I present a pair of Takeran or Tassidan rechargeable cells as backup power to save the processor integrity. Fascinating. These particular items were in the new nitrogen plant I was commissioning in the Guinness Brewery in Dublin. Nice. One of the few places I've pulled a pint there.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And the more eagle eyed will note the warning LED against Battery 1, which is why I was poking around in there. Shockingly, a like-for-like replacement to maintain warranty was £20. Fingers crossed this pass as muster for all the required criteria for qualification. Cheers, Dave. So, yeah, somebody, they've been put in your Common or Garden batteries. They're just like normal 3.6 volt double A's. And if you ordered a replacement part from Siemens,
Starting point is 00:26:23 which is just a common or garden normal AA cell, they would charge you £20. I mean, that is, it's just incredible. isn't it? I don't know how they dare. I don't know how they dare. But yeah, Tataran or Takiran, any new players there? Before I deliver the verdict,
Starting point is 00:26:43 on that kind of procurement kind of charging what you want type vibe, I remember chatting to someone in the US number of years ago who worked in procurement for the army. Oh my God, yeah. I mean like printer paper is like 50 quid.
Starting point is 00:26:59 The US Army and he said the one thing that sticks in his mind is he said that there was an order for some rubber kind of stoppers for the drainage holes in the back of like pickup trucks right yeah so you can put stoppers in them
Starting point is 00:27:17 for whatever reason I don't know I mean but anyway you can a cork would do the same job yeah but apparently look the army of being shaken down by whatever car company or vehicle manufacturer makes them and for three hundred and sixty dollars a stopper. It's just a made-up figure.
Starting point is 00:27:34 How do you dare? How dare you? How dare you? Yeah. And like half of these, a lot of these companies are kind of underpinned. They're kind of, you know, their stock price would be through the floor if they didn't charge these exorbitant amounts of money for really rudimentary. I'll tell you who's quite interesting on, I mean, we might talk about this before, but
Starting point is 00:27:54 interested in like government procurement is Rora Stewart. Right. Yes. Who basically says the wasted is unbelievable. and the reason for it is because no good contract lawyer works at the government because they make so much more money in the private sector. Right, I see. You're just getting rings run around you by fast and more superior kind of lawyers and stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:11 I don't know how true that is, but that's what you said. Anyway, so Takiran or Tasiran, are you satisfied that they meet the criteria, first of all, Peter? They're double A's. It doesn't matter how much they bloody cost if you go to Siemens. Yeah, they're still... Well, they're brand new players. So congratulations to you, David. Well done, David.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Maybe Siemens technology could be a rich mind to seem because I don't know who owns Takeran or Tassiran. If people are listening, as we know they are, they need to go looking. They know where to look. Oh, Tassar. Is it Tassaran or Tadiran? I don't know. Either way it's a new player. I think it might be Tadiran, you know.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Have you zoomed in? I've zoomed in. Taseran isn't a company, but Tadiran is. Let me just check. Oh, dear. Oh, it's not a new player then. It's not a new player. It's a Tadiran, not a Tassiran.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Do you know why it's not a new player? Why? Because they were sent in, right, on the 28th of July, mm-hmm, 2022, right? So how many years ago is that now? Three years ago. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:29:21 By David. What, as in, no, David. The same guy. What? The very same guy. He sent them in on the 28th of July 22. Tadiran high energy. I can see him here right on his greasy mitt. He tried to send the same ones in twice.
Starting point is 00:29:40 But it's in a completely different situation. It's in a machine. He must have sent it, forgotten he'd done it, and then found some Taddy ran in the machine. He must have forgotten he's done it. It was three years ago. He was off his head on COVID. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Wow. Yeah. Tadiran was an Israeli conglomerate found in 1962. By the merger of two companies, Taddy and Ran. So there we go. So basically, David, it's good news and bad news. These aren't new players because you've already got the new players and the battery three years ago, pal.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Yeah, yeah. Oh, well. That's a shame. But a fascinating little story, and I'm glad we got to the bottom of it. Rick has got in touch. Good evening, gentlemen. I hope you're both well. My first ever battery submission, so fingers crossed some beginners look.
Starting point is 00:30:23 May I present for the daddy? Found in an exercise bite, which I hope will help me shed some weight. J.L. Born Ultra. though I'm not sure if the being born could be an eight. It has to be born, shouldn't it? It can't be eight one. GEL eight one? It has to be born.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yeah. For me, it's good good, Rick. So, thank you for sending those in. Rick, good luck in your quest to get fitter, a good noble cause. Fitter, stronger, more productive. Say again? I was, hang on, let me, uh... Fitter, stronger, more productive.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Nice. That was definitely worth the interruption, absolutely. I'm pleased with that. Not a new player, though, Peter. Right. Sadly to say, I can't give you any encouragement by saying you've got a new player entering the game because our friend Jay, Jason sent those in. Jason from Salem, Massachusetts, famous home of the Witch Trials, of course, sent them in in January of 2023.
Starting point is 00:31:24 So they're a rare battery, the J.L. Bone Ultra, but they have been sent him once before. So you're the second person to send him in. No shame in that, but not a new player. But thank you for your message. And finally for now, Daniel has got in touch. Hello, Luke and Pete. A long-time listener first-time writer from Sweden. I found these Japsail batteries.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Very root-one stuff there in my sector alarm wall panel when I did a battery exchange. I've never come across these before, but have you? Thanks for a good show. Up the Mags. Daniel, a lot to love in that message. Has to be said. Yeah, and it's pleasingly, his original email says the following at the bottom of the email. Skikat Fran Min iPhone.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Oh, sent from my iPhone. It must be Swedish sent from my iPhone. I was a betting man. Japsel, what do you make of the battery, first of all, Peter? It's a CR1, 23. I'm not going to complain about the configuration, especially because we almost let a double A in earlier on that was actually a multiple of a previous one
Starting point is 00:32:21 because we misread the battery logo. I'm fine with it. It's a proper brand. It's a lithium battery. and it expires in around about 10 years time so I'm having it. May she provide lots and lots of energy in that 10 year period.
Starting point is 00:32:38 A brand new player, congratulations to you, Daniel, all the way from Sweden, the first Japsails we've seen. So two out of three brand new players today. Oh no, sorry, one out of three because the original one wasn't. So you have one out of three today. It's good to get a new player.
Starting point is 00:32:51 The other two were interesting at least. And that's all you can hope for, really. The robot. the batteries this week in the battery daddy they go I like that you forgot to press the button for the first time there
Starting point is 00:33:06 I did just went just in what you said the robot Also earlier I said fitter stronger more productive when it should have been fitter
Starting point is 00:33:13 happier more productive there we go yes and I've got radio tickets I've got a radio ticket I've got a radio head and I don't mind
Starting point is 00:33:22 how did you get that I tried to get one off a friend of mine my mate Al my mate Al is a big radio head guy and he got his one and I probably not going to enjoy it Can you get his ticket and give that to me and then because he's obviously such a pisshead
Starting point is 00:33:36 we'll just tell him that he went. Yes, good point actually. Yeah, every time you see him, he's usually drink has been taken, which is enjoyable. All right then, let's go out of here. Pablo Honey fans, we'll be back on Monday for more of this.
Starting point is 00:33:49 So look after yourselves. If you've got a battery and you know exactly what the name of it is instead of giving us some absolute nonsense in the Siemens, utility box, do get in touch hello at Lukepeachaw.com. We'll see you then. See you then.

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