The Luke and Pete Show - Hands off my personal allowance pouch

Episode Date: June 8, 2020

Welcome to another Luke and Pete Show! This episode we’re chatting about Pete’s dim sum, sharing lessons we learnt from visiting Haven holiday camps and marvelling at some of the best things astronauts have taken into space... Also on today's show, we spend some time marvelling at 2020's Val Kilmer and despairing at Mark Zuckerburg, and we discuss the 2018 film Annihilation. Possibly for the second time, we can't quite remember.It’s another busy Monday on The Luke and Pete Show, get stuck in!Thursday’s going to be an email special, so keep the good stuff coming to [e-mail] **Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or your preferred podcast provider. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

it's the luke and the peach show it is uh monday the 8th of june could be june could be february could be march nobody really knows all i know is i've not had a shower yet so i'd like to apologize right now uh for broadcasting son's shower yeah i'm luke i'm the other part of this foul jamboree and peter i should say to our listeners who may well be listening to this at any time of the day or night that it's not even that early in the day i mean you wanted to record today very very early this morning and we decided against that so what is the excuse for not having a shower at this i have had a busy weekend i was down in bristol throwing a statue into the water and uh i've just returned uh still glistening with sweat from that particular bit of physical exertion but i'm back baby i'm back to the picture you just couldn't be bothered did you

i just couldn't be bothered now i i've managed to make bagels and also steam some dim sum in the time between getting up and doing this podcast record so it's not like i haven't achieved a bit of test scores dripping my own filth, and I've just not got round to... All sorts of different cultural touch points for the food you're making. Exactly. Dim Sum, bagels, what's that? Like kind of New York bagels. They're quite big over there, aren't they?

Well, bagels is defined as Jewish tradition of food, isn't it? Yeah, and Dim Sum is, of course, the part of the world that you have the most affinity for. Passover Pete. That's what you call me. Passover Pete. That's what you call me. Passover Pete. That's what the agents call him. Heavy, light pencil Donaldson.

Yeah. Somebody sent me a little link via text of, I've been to Portugal recently, I've been to Japan recently, and last year I went to South Korea. Somebody pointed out that the age of consent is 14 in Portugal, 13 in Japan, and 13 in South Korea, pointing out that I'm some kind of problematic sex tourist. But, yeah.

For those of us who knew that for a long time, it's not new. Fascinating, though. I think Spain only improved their outlook very recently. It's weird. The actual legal definition of what is legal and what isn't legal, obviously they have the Romeo and Juliet laws and stuff like that, but the hard and fast kind of numbers are actually quite stark in a lot of US states as well.

How are we talking about this? I don't know. I thought it just reminded me of being – you said that I travel to the Far East quite a lot. It just reminded me of someone casting aspersions my way, which is basically what my WhatsApp is for. People having a go at me. I did say that.

I said the country of Dims, the home of Dimsum, is a country you have a lot of affinity for. And all of a sudden, we've got two minutes of sex tourism and the age of consent. I mean, you're hiding in plain sight here, Gonson. You want to have a look at yourself. Oh, no. Nightmare.

Well. This is why we should sketch out the show from start to finish and prep what we're going to do in advance. Just right at the top of the cheat sheet, just right at the top of the running order, Pete, don't talk about paedophilia this early on the show. Especially when you're full of dim sum, full of energy.

No, at any point. Talk to us about the dim sum. What was inside? Oh, it was like a tight ball of prawn. It's just, they're very nice. People sort of go to dim tea and buy dim sum at restaurants and Chinese's. And it looks like the most difficult thing to make in the world, but it's literally just steam it for five minutes and they're cooked.

They're all cooked. But what's the, so forgive me my ignorance. I do love, I do like a dim sum. I actually like dim tea at the restaurant as well. I enjoy going there. I particularly love their coconut rice. What is the, what's the dim sum, the actual dumping itself made of? Oh, I don't know.

I think it's like a starchy kind of. Are you just buying the wraps and then wrapping them up and then steaming them? No, I'm literally just buying them frozen, mate. Literally just buying them frozen. Oh, for God's sake, anyone could do that. Yeah, but you've got to steam them, haven't you? But nobody does that. People think you've got to...

You're supposed to be authentic. I love it. But yeah. I don't think... Let me just be absolutely clear. The risk of sounding like a pedant. You started this little conversation by saying, oh, people think it's really hard, but it's not.

It's not really hard. I thought it was really easy. Why? Because I'm buying them frozen. You're just giving them a steam. it's not it's not really hard I thought it's really easy why because I'm buying them frozen it's not cooking is it well I mean to pound your own

sticky rice kind of I don't even know what it's wrapped in I presume it's some kind of rice derivative there's the euphemism again to pound your sticky

rice into oblivion all weekend and then do a football and then do a looking picture and you have a shower yeah exactly nightmare this is absolutely outrageous by you so what else did you then do a football and then do a looking picture. And you haven't had a shower. Yeah, exactly.

Nightmare. This is absolutely outrageous by you, Donaldson. So what else did you get up to at the weekend? You didn't flout any lockdown rules. I mean, what even are the rules anymore? Nobody knows. I didn't, I was away, so I couldn't righteously, righteously or rightesly, either way, assemble.

So I've been away and yeah, just just just just been keep my head down really staying out of trouble no no worries mate no worries which is unlike you because i think the thing is when you say that you're keeping your head down staying out of trouble it means you're doing something truly objectionable because you're quite up front with the stuff you do that you're proud of that you know is people other people wouldn't do but you'll put it out there you'll go front and center with it when you it's. It's when you start being quiet is when I traditionally start to worry. Yeah, I'm a bit like, I don't know, Grace Jones. I'm there to shock.

It's what I'm trying to do. I think that's probably the only way you're like Grace Jones. No, I don't know. Okay, no use. Bang it to that. I could go toe-to-toe with her. I saw a really – it's changing trains completely. I saw a really interesting story yesterday about the things that astronauts

took to the moon. All right. Yeah. No, no, no. So, so apparently I think it's a tradition with all astronauts now, but it started when, when the astronauts under the Apollo program started going to the moon, they were all given a um i'm trying to

find out what the i can't remember what the um the actual phrase was it it was that they used for it no no it's like it's like they had a little pouch they could oh it's called a personal allowance right okay right which they said because obviously everything has to be checked and the math has to be checked out and the physics stuff and the weight and that kind of thing but there are other personal allowance pouch and each of them put obviously something that was important to them uh right with them and so i think it came from a um a tradition that soldiers have when they went to war they would have a picture of their their significant other or before photography of course they would carry a lock of hair or whatever but in this case um these these guys

carry different things i didn't realize that um when apollo 11 um when the eagle module landed on the moon um buzz aldrin i don't know if he's still a christian actually but at the time he was a christian and he had with him a tiny miniature chalice with some wine and some bread in it and he did a um he did a communion i had no idea that happened and so no so the first um liquid the first time liquid was poured on another world And he did a communion on the moon. I had no idea that happened. And so, no. So the first liquid, the first time liquid was poured on another world, essentially, or another planet, or not planet, but you know what I mean, another celestial body was communion.

And one thing I found particularly poignant was Apollo 16 in 1972, Charles Duke left pictures of his family on the moon's surface with a handwritten message for posterity, it says in the article. Unfortunately, solar radiation bleached him and his family out of existence. Oh, no. So this is a blank white piece of paper now. And then, of course, famously, most famously, Apollo 14 in 71, Alan Shepard. Somehow, I don't know how this fitted in the personal allowance pouch,

but Alan Shepard took golf clubs and balls with him and hit the longest drive in history thanks to reduced gravity on the moon. I remember that picture. Yeah. So it's quite cool. And I think the reason this story sort of came to my attention is because I was reading about the guys from SpaceX who went off last week. They both had a toy dinosaur from their sons.

Their sons gave them a toy dinosaur to take with them. It was like a lucky charm type thing. And I kind of went down a Google hole and was reading about it. Could you not... Do they leave it up there? That would be pretty cool if you, like, you know, you left it... Well, they're going to the space station, aren't they? So they wouldn't be able to... I suppose they could do yeah i'll just just release it into

i mean if you look if you're going to get um a satellite knocked out of the um space with with some space trash imagine having the imprint of a of a toy dinosaur that's the thing that does it in my mind it's the dinosaur of um yeah me too me too really really heavy yeah yeah and you're hitting on the bottom but i thought that's quite a cool thing that's lovely i i had no idea you Yeah, me too, me too. Really, really heavy. Yeah. That's quite a cool thing. That's lovely. I had no idea you had a little personal pouch. I mean, as you said,

I think golf clubs is a little bit beyond the pale. I would take up licorice hot shots. There's no licorice in space. I mean, everything that you will probably do will be the first time that anyone's done it in space, presumably, unless you're particularly uh not not very um imaginative yeah what if you're like kind of what if you're like oh the first person to eat some marmite in space everything you do will be the first thing realistically so yeah just choose something that's absolutely mad um well you know there's like that thing about um about the universe

where they say that like 85 percent or whatever it is of the universe is so far kind of undiscovered it's made of a substance no one knows what it is. Imagine if it was actually licorice. Molasses. The great molasses. Oh, no, we found it. Yeah, the math seems to suggest that it's actually licorice. Yeah.

So we need to send Pete Darnson out to eat as well. I'll do it. I'll bloody do it. You would be the best person for that, wouldn't you? That would piss you off, wouldn't it? Because you're obsessed with space and stuff. You'd be really annoyed if I was the most... No, I'm too scared to go there.

You wouldn't. I'd be happy for you to go there. You wouldn't go? I'm in Chimney. Well, I mean, do you know what? I was speaking about this to someone the other day, and they work in the area of... They work in the media but in the area of kind of space travel and science and stuff and and they were saying the same thing oh no i'll

they'd be too scared to to kind of do anything too full on they like the theory of it and they're fascinated by it but it takes a special type of person you know like tom wolf said in his book the right stuff you've got to be made of the right stuff but it's interesting in that same book um that when they were doing um doing sort of readings of of the astronauts their their pulse and their blood pressure and stuff when they're sat on top of the rocket about to take off some of them i think maybe john glenn who's sadly no longer with us one of the real pioneers of space travel when he was sat on on the um on the rocket and i think buzz aldrin might have been the same, about to take off, their pulses didn't change. Right.

There was no real discernible excitement or increase in pulse or heart rate or anything. It's just part of it. I can safely assure you, Pete, if I was sat on a space shuttle about to go off into space, my heart rate would be... Oh, I'd have some personal items that I'd let out into my spacesuit, I tell you what. I'd be sloshing around.

Well, Pete looks like his personal out-of-pouch appears to be full of human shit. Pete's turned his entire spacesuit into a big Capri Sun, sloshing about in the visor. Oh, dear. Yeah, so I'm not sure if if but they they do say though don't they nasa that like if if they advertised for a a one-way mission to mars or to any kind of other place that they they reckon they'd be inundated with uh with applications because some

people went into it so yeah what i would say is if you're that if you're that reckless with your own personal safety you probably should shouldn't be doing this. Let's open this hatch. Let's add some air in. Yeah. Oh, boring. Let's do a loop-de-loop. Oi, oi, oi.

Yeah, yeah. So it would be. But I thought that was like a fun, cute little thing because it's quite, I mean, they shouldn't be littering on the moon. No. That's important. Learn the lessons from this world, really. But maybe give them a little bit of a pass for for taking something personal up there learn learn from the haven holiday park look it's a campsite so just calm it down you know just just don't

leave shit around what lessons have you learned from haven hall there because i went to haven back in the day as well yeah um caravanning less fun than you think yeah but yeah everything's it's like real life but everything's uncomfortable um also one of the things i learned from haven is that it's the only place on earth and i've never seen this before or since where you can get a two-person bike with a awning over the top of it and ride it around hang on a two-person bike as in with an awning over the top of it and ride it around. Hang on, a two-person bike as in... Do you remember that? So imagine... It's a four-wheeler, yeah? So imagine two bikes put together. Oh, right.

And then there's an awning over the top and you cycle them together and I think... I'll tell you what it's like. It's like a two-bike tuk-tuk. Yes, yeah, that made sense. I thought it was just one bike but with an awning over the top of it with two... like a tandem bike but with an awning over the top of it with two like a tandem bike but with an awning over the top i realized that there's there's four wheels so it's more like a flintstones car in many ways exactly exactly right it's a great place to uh to to culturally reference because it's exactly like that yeah it's books

did you by any chance get a an opportunity about a month ago now? I don't know why this has just come to mind. This is a complete non-sequitur, but for some reason I've just thought of it. About a month ago, there was an amazing, and I do mean amazing, article in the New York Times Magazine into a long-form interview with Val Kilmer. No, I didn't say that, no. Is he back? He is in the stands.

No, he's not really back in the way that you would know him, but he is quite, quite mad. I mean, it is incredible quite how mad he is, but in a kind of eccentric way rather than a kind of, this is exploitative kind of way. I don't mean that. Let's all point at him and laugh at him. He's a cancer survivor, isn't he?

He's, yeah. Well, this is the thing, though, Pete. He is a cancer survivor. And this will become clear if you read the article when you get a moment. He denies that he had cancer. Right, okay. So it's quite strange the way he approaches it. He sort of talks about when he asked about it by the interviewer, he sort of says,

no, I had symptoms that are commensurate with cancer and treatment that cancer people need but i actually don't see it that way okay yes it's that he's one of those guys he's not a scientologist or anything like that that sounds a bit no no but what i didn't know he's a christian scientist which is almost problematic in a slightly different way but one of the things i found fascinating about him is that I didn't know at all, because he was just so popular. For people our age, Pete, he was gigantic, wasn't he? He was massive. He was up there.

The proper superstar. He was up there, wasn't he? You know, Top Gun and Batman Forever and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what I didn't know was that he's actually a really quite offbeat artistic kind of guy and that the idea of being a mainstream box office superstar never really sat with him that well and he wanted

to do all these art house movies and these different things and i think he spent quite a lot of his time more recently doing that type of stuff um but i didn't actually know that i just thought he was this mainstream kind of pop box office megastar really because there's a difference between a hollywood star and an actor isn isn't there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. In some way. If you're that handsome, though, you've got to be very careful with cultivating how people see you, I think. If you don't want to be a pretty boy. Brad Pitt went through the same sort of thing.

He worked very hard doing the big Hollywood stuff so he could afford to do the small, slightly more indie, interesting films. Yeah. There's a picture in this article of Val Kilmer in 1981 performing a theatre production, I think. He

is the most ridiculously handsome man you can ever imagine. He just looks ridiculous. It's like he's been created in a lab. He looks ridiculous. Same with Brad Pitt, I suppose, really. I watched a film with... I was waiting. I was watched a film with... And you could tell, Pete. Yeah, I was waiting. I was watching a film on Netflix with Natalie Portman in it.

It's a sci-fi film. Can't really remember the name of it. Let me give it... Netflix sci-fi. It is Annihilation. It's not Star Wars, is it? Oh, okay. Annihilation is brilliant. Really, really good

I thought it was brilliant it was excellent the final we talk about CGI quite a lot on this show the CGI is quite porny all the way through until the end

and it becomes something better like the when it's doing like animals and bears and things running through the forest

it's a little bit porny but when it starts to get artistically more creative I think the the visual effects are some you would look at it and sort of go that was done by a 10 year old on an app but the way that they've used it is more that's how you look at most of my work it's done on an app wasn't it um yeah yeah you look at it and sort of go oh my god like that's so beautifully done like they've used sci-fi not in the way that hollywood used to use a sci-fi they've used it in a a really

creative and abstract kind of way it's it's an amazing finish and the music the sound that comes in when they're in the cave thing is just i won't spoiler it but it is just something else it's amazing i think it's a brilliant movie and do you movie. I'll fill in the blanks, people, if you don't mind, Pete, and say that the reason I watched this movie is because it's made by the chap that made Ex Machina. Yes, I know you're a big fan of that film.

Which is also a brilliant film. Is it Alex Garland? It is Alex Garland. Yeah, and so he made this movie Annihilation, which I'm not sure, Pete, did it go straight to Netflix? According to the person I was watching it with, she said it was too weird for, it was apparently too weird for release. So they just put, you know, they pumped it to Netflix

and Netflix took it and it's brilliant. Yeah, so I said to Mimi, I said, oh, look, you know, we want to look at this and watch. I said, oh, well, Ex Machina was amazing. We both really loved that. So let's watch this. I thought it was one of the best movies I've seen for a very long time. And I can understand why people kind of checked out around the final act,

which I won't go into any detail about, but I actually really enjoyed the final act. I thought it was a really, really good movie. Well worth the watch. And if you've got a Netflix subscription, which everyone has, go and watch it.

I can't believe in fact, Pete, that we didn't talk about this at the time I saw it, because I was really into it, but maybe we did. I just forgot, but I'm pleased that you enjoyed it as well. I can't believe, in fact, Pete, that we didn't talk about this at the time I saw it because I was really into it. But maybe we did and we just forgot. But I'm pleased that you enjoyed it as well. It's not what makes me giggle. It did actually come out briefly in 2018

and then sort of ended up on... Yeah, I can't believe I missed it the first time around. It's so good. I guess it's one of those... Weird and creepy and quite scary. It's brilliant. And I just really, really enjoyed it. I guess it's one of those... Weird and creepy and quite scary. It's brilliant. I just really, really enjoy it.

I would never watch it in a million years if someone else wasn't using the film. Oscar Isaac. Well, welcome to my world of Pete's Film Club, by the way. Oscar, I know, right? I've absolutely put you guys through the wringer. Oscar Isaac. Very enjoyable that a man so handsome doesn't appear to have abs in a film,

which I don't think I've seen a film recently where the leading, well, not the leading man, but the man, the love interest, the handsome man doesn't have a ridiculously sculpted body. And I was like, well done, Oscar. Thank you. Thank you for that, mate. Thank you.

Yeah, he's quite versatile as well, Oscar Isaac, because, I mean, yeah, if you think of the role he plays in the new Star Wars movies, it's completely different to the role he plays. So he goes from being this hot shot, pretty boy, like fighter pilot in Star Wars. In Ex Machina, he plays like a Mark Zuckerberg type character, but obviously not as racist.

And in this movie, he's quite different again he's good i like him oscar he's got a lot of he's got a lot of charisma enjoyable is he from guatemala or is his dad forgot like this one i don't know actually i think he might have been quite a lot pete um will i get away with calling mark zuckerberg i think you can get away with me correcting you, Luke, by saying he's not racist, his algorithm is racist. He just continuously funnels people into far-right propaganda on the website. Exactly. I just push people into my shed, and if it happens to be full of offensive magazines, that's not my problem. The shed is racist. The shed is sexist. The shed is misogynistic.

The magazines are misogynistic. Just because i push people into my shed and say hey look at these magazines that's the shed's fault i love the idea of mark zuckerberg being at a cocktail party and someone saying what do you what do you do for a living well i've got this kind of gigantic racist shed right and everyone's i am the algorithm wrangler probably ruined the world i think i think it might have ruined the world so i'm very busy like yeah yeah yeah yeah it's like when dick cheney when dick cheney accidentally shot his mate in the face hunting yeah and someone got away with it and he had to um he had to do an apology but the apology said something like um mine was the finger that pulled the trigger that fired the gun which meant the bullet hit my friend in the face it's like okay yeah it was a

shot it would have been a shotgun when it would have been pellets i mean that's messy that is messy that yeah you can really i'm not i'm not i don't know much about i don't know much about guns did you see that guy who um was this um dirty little incel who wanted to blow up a bomb and kill some cheerleaders or something and his face there was a picture of his mugshot let's just say uh it went rather badly his little homemade bomb uh i think it took both his hands off and his face looks like i don't know it just looks like a dirty old loaf of bread is absolutely destroyed and he said i think he said that he'd don't make your own i can't no we cannot say we're talking about the jolly rogers cookbook on a private whatsapp uh encrypted channel earlier on this week weren't we look i'm just saying what the kids used to talk about when we

were kids the jolly rogers cookbook was like this uh um semi-legal kind of pamphlet in the 80s that was available certainly on a floppy disk and people would sort of trade these kind of plans on how you'd make your homemade bombs and rockets and stuff like that. It's been used by quite a lot of terrorists. It's been used by, yeah. Well, it kind of branched into training for Taliban and ISIS members, but then the other fork seemed to be white supremacists.

Fascinating. There's definitely a documentary to be white supremacists. Fascinating. There's definitely a documentary to be made about the Jolly Rogers cookbook and how it got updated so many times to we're in a state now where I believe it's exclusively a white supremacy set of pamphlets. I think it's totally a leader now. Well, yeah. I think it's totally a leader now, yeah. Pete, you also educated me on something.

I completely passed me by a number of years ago, and you were telling me about it last week, about a bunch of, I don't know who they were, like Proud Boys or whatever, just weirdo kind of internet white supremacist or whatever, who commandeered a ship. Yes, yes. I can't remember what the name of the ship was,

but it was a load of European incel fascists, proto-neo-fascists that, not proto, neo-fascists that commandeered a ship. I think they were mainly Italian. I want to say there was a couple of Germans on board as well. And they went to, their plan was to go to Libya to disrupt the NGO rescue efforts of migrants in the sea. And there was a YouTube video of a tour, I think I spoke about it at the time,

a YouTube video of the ship, this guy's taking it around and interviewing all the people who were on the ship. And they are all absolute wrong-uns, these neckbeards, kind of thinning-haired, kind of ill-looking men. Mate, what did I say to you at the time? I said, imagine the B.O. Imagine the smell. Worse than I smell right now.

Oh, you'd smell them coming. The B.O. would just be off the charts. It would be awful. No one would have washed their T-shirts. Sharks coming up thinking it's chums being thrown into it, rotten chums being thrown into it. It's this ambergris, or just the smell of these rotten boys. But they're out in the sea.

It wasn't a documentary. It was a self-published video. I think I've still got it. It's horrible. But they talk to these kind of hairless men, and their bunks are an absolute shit state. They do not look like seafaring men. They do not look organized enough to have a cabin.

But they've all got excellent gaming PCs, excellent thermal paste covered gaming pcs with uh satellite connected um 4g uh you know internet connections and stuff it's just the smell just masturbating and writing racist filth onto the internet um from sea but but but the sweet kicker was that uh they uh they that their um boat or ship um was in some kind of engine trouble and they had to be rescued by the same ngos that rescued the libyan uh migrants which is just sweet so bloody sweet it's it doesn't even bear thinking about that is delicious speaking of speaking of that it reminds me of um of i saw sky news the other day, and it was, I think, Adam Bolton, and he was doing a story about something. I forget what it is.

It's not important. But on one side was a guy from the New Statesman who was in his office and, you know, being asked to give an opinion on this. And for those who don't know, the New Statesman is like a traditionally kind of progressive Labour-supporting publication. I think that's right. I think it's changed a bit, but yeah. Yeah, roughly speaking.

Anyway, and the other talking head they had was self-styled enfant terrible of the Brexit movement, Darren Grimes, right? movement uh darren grimes right who looks about 20 i don't know how old he is uh and appeared on the webcam in his game and i thought i don't think news should be like this in 2020 i'm either completely out of touch but how is this even is it that little um from the northeast yeah i think you might be but anyway anyway, Adam Bolton was fuming with both of them and didn't give them any time at all. It was almost like completely pointless as a feature because he was like, right, yeah, cheers, off we go and did something else. So

yeah, it's kind of interesting how gaming chairs, Pete, have now become part of the accepted mainstream. Presumably you've got some kind of... Look, the amount of times I see my gaming chair, I can't remember who made it, but my gaming chair on internet streams and on people like Grimesy in his little Grimey chair, I do sort of think, wow, I've chosen the right one

because it seems to be the most popular one. I should say that's Darren Grimes, not the person that's married to Elon Musk. No, no. Is that how you say it, Grimes? Is it Grimes? Oh, cool. Now I know. I don't know. I thought he was married to Churches. No, no. Is that how you say it? Grimes? Is it Grimes? Oh, cool. Now I know.

I don't know. I thought he was married to Churches. Churches. Yeah. Who knows what's going on? We're just out of touch, Pete. It's just how it is these days. I can't keep up.

There was a celebrity pointless on the telly and I mischaracterised Mark E... Was it Mark King? Mark King from that band, The Bassist. Mark King from Level 42. I thought it was Mark Knopfler. No, that's Darsh Strange. Yes, I know. Yeah, and I also, there was a woman from The Only Ways Essex on, and I had no idea who she was.

So like half of the people on Celebrity Pointless, I just couldn't get my head around it. I couldn't figure out who these people were. I'm scared and confused. And that's why I'll be voting for Boris Johnson in the election. My mum messages me because my mum knows what I do to an extent. And she's obviously very supportive of him. But she doesn't know it that well. So what happens is she'll conflate the idea that i do this with the media in general

and so what happens is at a certain time every year i get a text from her saying with the list of all the i'm a celebrity get me out of here contestants asking me if i know if any of them the rumors of the rumor the rumors are the ones that are going to take part in it ask me if i know them and whether they're going to do it or not and what I think of them. And I'm not joking. Last year, the only one I knew was Ian Wright. I mean, the only one I knew as in who they actually were,

I think, was Ian Wright. So I don't know why she keeps asking me. She asks me every year. The return on her investment is very, very small. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I don't know why she does that either. But yeah, it's confusing. And half of the people will be internet people who won't be here in two years time because they'll have said something dreadful so if you ever see i saw

saw ksi on uh on uh goggle box and uh he barely speaks in that and i can only think it's because he keeps shouting stuff that isn't broadcastable. Right. And you know that in – and that was particularly – I didn't see that TV show, but I saw that in today's political climate, this makes this even worse, and I understand that, that I think – I'm not going to name them because I'm not entirely sure which publication it was, but let's just say a mainstream publication confused KSI and his friend with

another black man and so wrote a story about it uh which got them a huge amount of backlash this is part of the problem everyone this is this is like this is like stormzy all over again people need to take a bit more time and care and show a bit more respect to to what they're supposed to be reporting on because that is not helping but you But, you know, it is an inherent race blindness that we all have as people of the earth. But there needs to be leadership from both in media organisations that needs to go, look, this will be a shitstorm that you don't want to be a fucking part of.

We know you're not doing it deliberately, but you need to fucking just take a little bit of time and be a bit more careful about shit because it's indicative of a wider problem of a lack of visibility of minorities in the media and uh i mean some of the figures we're talking about this on a private channel some of the figures from from from certain media organizations of how many minorities are in it is is just stark it's um it's something else but pete the other thing about it is i could i agree with everything and i and i understand it's hugely problematic and very regrettable for them to do that

as you can probably imagine pete there's another dimension to my anger about it it's just the um the sloppiness of the yeah i mean that is i mean it's just yeah check your work check your admin i i mean i guess we had uh what did we have uh was a football manager who'd started in America and they just found a bald man. God, who was it now? It was Jack Stam. And they just found a bald man. But that kind of went down to the metadata that was attributed to, obviously, visually, completely different men,

but that was down to the metadata that was applied at Getty Images level. So if someone who doesn't know football at all is going to Getty Images, you even have to check their work because they might be saying that someone is someone when they're not actually someone, especially on a red carpet. When you're on a red carpet, you're a photographer, you get like a list of people that are going to be on the red carpet and you get photographs. But when things are going really, really quickly

and you've got to file pictures really, really quickly for for use as soon as possible it's it's a race against time so you have to be diligent at every point uh of the of the tree be a nightmare if you became more famous because you exactly i could be like tea bag from prison poor little image image editors from working out of you it's you or not my goodness me that's a full-time job in itself. I don't even know sometimes. Gary Neville. Pete, I want to end with this quick story. We haven't done any emails yet.

Maybe we'll do some emails as an email special on Thursday perhaps instead because we've got a load of good ones. But before we go this week, because we are well, well over, but that's fine. We make our own rules. This news story took my eye because it's just so typical. And this came out, I think, late last week on the BBC. May was the sunniest calendar month on record in the UK. And spring was the sunniest spring since records began,

say the Met Office. I mean, how ridiculous is that? On average, the UK gets 436 hours of sunshine between March and the end of May. Since 1929, only 10 years have had more than 500 hours, and none have gone more than 555 hours. This spring, we've had 626. But it is just like, I mean, obviously, there's climate change and global warming and all that stuff that is going to factor in.

Yeah, that's right. I was talking on WrestleMania last week with Mark, and Mark was saying that every time a new kind of WrestleMania appears, they sort of say it was a bigger financial draw than it was ever. It was the biggest financial draw in history. Because you're charging more for the tickets every time, and it's still the 80,000 that you were signing out in wrestlemania 2 or 3 you know so it's like it's a bit of a fallacy

well it's like i think if you um there's a thing in box office uh movie box office success isn't there where you i mean part of it is is they have to do inflation adjusted box office success because i think if you do that i believe i'm right in saying that gone with the wind is still the most popular box office success even though it came out in the 30s. Yeah, because obviously those Avengers movies and stuff and Marvel movies have done ridiculous numbers. They measure them in the billions now, really. But you go back to how big a hit Gone With The Wind was, which is mad considering it's about four hours long. I think that is an inflation-adjusted box office success.

I think Gone With The Wind is the top dog. Top dog. Well, we'll leave with that. There we go. Inflation injustice. Yeah. Adjusting. Yeah.

The true crime of our times. Yeah, we'll be back on Thursday with more of that. If you want to get in touch with the show, we will be doing an email special. We've got some cracking ones in the pipe. It's hello at lukeandpeachshow.com. We'll be back on Thursday. tomorrow. That if you want to get a touch of the show, we will be doing an email special. We've got some cracking ones in the pipe. It's hello at Luke and Pete show.com. We'll be back on Thursday. Bye.

Oh, sorry. Yeah. Cheers everyone. I will. Okay. Everyone who's still listening. This is signposted me wrapping up the show.

Thank you very much for listening. We'll see you on Thursday.