The Luke and Pete Show - I Trust the Streets

Episode Date: August 18, 2025

Today's episode starts with an impassioned debate about whether you can drive both ways over the Queen Elizabeth Bridge in east London. If that doesn't get you excited to tune in, then frankly you're in the wrong place.The lads then wax lyrical about the ridiculous nature of drug policy in the UK, which then naturally segues into a chat about a bloke that kept medicating himself with colloidal silver to treat his dermatitis and turned his skin completely blue (he's now dead. Obviously). Finally, Pete is trying to give up pickles, but will a new dill pickle themed beverage tempt him back to the Devil's trough?Email us at [e-mail] or you can get in touch on X, Threads or Instagram if character-restricted messaging takes your fancy.Please fill out Stak's listener survey! It'll help us learn more about the content you love so we can bring you even more - you'll also be entered into a competition to win one of five PlayStation 5's! Click here: https://bit.ly/staksurvey2025***Please take the time to rate us on your podcast app. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Good morning, Little Mushrooms. It is the Luke and Pete Shaw. I am Pete Donaldson. I'm joined by Mr. Lucie Moore, and we are going to set the world to rights, if not to rights. We'll talk about it for a bit and then just go home. Yeah.

I'm only at home. All right, yeah, I'm all right, fine. You're in the cabin. I'm in my cabin. How's and what kind of shape is the apology cabin in, by the way of interest? It's quite tidy. I mean, there's quite a lot of stuff in the stack office

that could do with somewhere to live. And I'm sort of trying to, I've got some shelving. Maybe we could put a couple of boxes up there. But, I mean, there's people in the office who've got bigger houses than me. So they can take it. Not me. Who? I reckon our business partner's probably got a bigger house in this.

Yeah, he's the only one, though. I've not been to your house because I've never been invited. but I presume Oh my God you've been invited like I live fucking miles away nobody else

come to our house they pretend they do and then they get it and they went this took a while didn't it yeah

it does fucking miles away all right so basically let me just unpack that am I invited or not yes

you can come out any time anytime all right all right then I just realize I don't want to just backfire

you're on your laptop stick yourself on roaming getting your car big man should I find how long it's

going to take me for drive how long do you think because you've driven to mine so you've got a better idea here. How long do you reckon it takes for me to drive?

Did I drive from here? Oh, I don't know. Was I driving in me, I'll probably be Jaguar there, wasn't I? Because I had to cart a lot of stuff back. I'm in SS9, so I'm going to dock myself too hard. But, yeah, I mean, I'm in SS. It's going to take me an hour and 39 minutes to drive to yours.

And that's half, that's half 11 in the morning. Yeah, it's not even a busy time. I'm after go through some kind of tunnel, but I look of it. What is it? You'll be on the M-25, or yeah. I'm going to have the Queen Elizabeth Bridge. Not that way, eh. That's the way it's taking me, boy.

You can't go on the Queen Elizabeth through. The Queen Elizabeth Bridge is clockwise. You know what we're going clockwise? That'd be a wild thing to do. You've gone crazy. I'm going anti-clockwise, mate. I'm going right down the A2 through Beckley. You're not going on a bridge.

You're going on a tunnel. I'm hanging on the Queen Elizabeth Bridge. You're not going over the Queen Elizabeth then. You can't do it. It's not allowed. I'm looking at a Saturday. Light image of the Queen Elizabeth Bridge which got two lanes on it.

Yeah. One going north, one going south. And I'm going to join the M25 at the Thoroughc services and I'm going to head east all the way down the A-13. Can you go over the Queen Elizabeth Bridge both ways? I don't, I've never done that.

I've never gone north. Have I? Have I gone north over the Queen Elizabeth? They always send me down the Dartford crossing on the tunnel or over the hell it takes ages. Oh, I don't know. Very boring London chat.

By the way, speaking of boring chat, you've seen that I started a new column, seen that? You did, you've seen it a little substack, a little mention, yeah, it's about, it's about, doing a little bit of sport betting, a little bit of culture. Yes, okay, right. Most recent one is about Brentford, Brentford FC's plight this summer and a few other bits and pieces. You're going to be like one of those men who go on Twitter and reply to everything going, I've got some great tips. Are you going to give us some great tips? I mean I will hopefully put up some tips I enjoy sports betting I make no apology for that

I've always enjoyed it ever since I was an 18 year old and I know that that's a dirty word in some quarters but that's fine and I will be putting up some tips yeah but I don't think I'll be doing Twitter about it no I might here and there I'm not going to be posting tips up though on Twitter there'll be a tip at the end of each column as part of the column but I'm enjoying flexing my writing muscles again I've become terrible at it and I'd like to get better at it

So that's part of the reason why I'm doing it. It's called anyw winners.substack.com. Anywinners. Dot substack. Dot com. I was going to go out of it then. I don't have time to do it now. I'm busy doing a show.

Yeah. I've never had a blog. I've never written anything longer. You're pretty fun writer you. I've never written anything longer than a few sentences because I find it very stressful. But do you find the blank page daunting? Anybody sort of like, yeah. Yeah, it's difficult, isn't he?

You sit down and you're like, where is this going to go? I've done loads. Obviously, in my time in academia, I've done loads of essays though. Right, yeah. And that's tough. Do you ever put any bit of a razzle-dazzle? Do you ever put any bit razzle dazzle-dazzle? A little bit.

A little bit. Yeah, little bit. A little bit, but you don't, they don't, some, it depends. In my experience, it depends on the professor was. The professor, like, is sound. You can get away with that. but I would swear words

swearing only in quotation oh okay right here is the fucking history yeah I think the problem with the academic writing is you've got to do so much research to start with and start putting things together

and only after that you start writing it and then with this I'm just tossing it off I'm just banging it out yeah I'm still getting to grips with it really still finding my way but it's been fun so far writing that you sort of like you sit down and write and that's you have kind of got everything

that goes into it in like note form on your phone things you want to say I require a lot of time to sort of tap away on the don't piece yeah because the reason I started doing it as well is because I want to make sure I can still actually write because I'm a little bit paranoid about this kind of AI replacement thing right I do still want to have some writing skills to be to pass on to my son for example right yeah I don't really want him to be like 15 and by that point it's like Yeah, I don't write anything ever because it's just done for you. That, to me, is repellent. But also, in the evenings, after my son goes to bed,

and there's no football game on, I actually have to or want to watch, like at the moment, and there's nothing on. It's like, it's actually quite a nice activity. Otherwise, what else am I going to do? Scroll on Instagram forever or, you know, do nothing or play video games. I do do a bit of that, but I like to mix up. Do you feel a bit shy, though? Because, like, if your partner, if I was writing, tapping away in writing,

Because I need complete silence. It's that kind of... Your attention spans your problem, I think, probably. Yeah, exactly, yeah. So I need complete silence. I need just, you know, a singular focus. I need to sort of be a place where somebody else isn't in the room doing stuff. And also, if I'm writing something, I'd be like, stop peeking.

Nah. Stop looking at my staff. The Wi-Fi have access to who's not interested in that, for one. Two, I've got the old headphones in, and I've got some classical music on normally. I just... I can't listen to anything with... lyrics. I can do it if it's just instrumental music.

Like I was listening to... Like, you know, city pop or something. I just like, I just get lost in that kind of... You trust the streets too much, that's your problem. I just love the city pop streets too much. Do I listen, do our Luke and Peach our listening family and friends know about the I trust the streets? Yeah, I think so.

I think what was I complaining about? I think I was complaining we're on holiday somewhere. No, we were in Naples and you got into it. I was going on about legal highs, people who buy stuff from the legal high shop. And I said... I don't trust that shit. I don't trust that shit. Every new Luca Piccio makes you sound like a massive drug abuse.

I'm really not. Well, this did actually happen. Did a bit of social drugs back in my 30s. You basically said, we're in the back of a cab on the way to somewhere. It's quite a good seat. I can see why you're getting seduced by it because it was quite a fun scene cutting through the Naples streets on it in a cab, going from one cocktail bar to another or something.

and um you said why do people bother with legal highs buying them from these shops and stuff i don't trust that shit anyway i trust the streets exactly because you know heroin's existed since the 20s the 1920s and yeah nothing about that well i'm just saying that like it's there's an established in you know there's a lot of variation obviously but there's an established way doing things but these legal high shops they've just got we've come up with this new fucking five, you know, five-character, five-lettered concoction. It's been tested on literally nobody. Let's get it in the shop. Let's see how it goes, shall we... But sure it does not have to be regulated.

No, not really. I think if it's a new thing, you know what regulations are like. They take quite a long time to kind of catch up and they don't know, you know, how these different chemical compounds kind of interact with each other and different people and, you know, everyone knows what cocaine does. Everyone knows what MDMAID. Everyone knows what those things do. and as long as you get it from a decent person I was you know you

they've I can't remember which government did it but the government banned drug testing at festivals and he sort of banned those kind of at source you can go and get your drugs tested at festivals

isn't that terrible fucking thing to do I didn't know they've done that and that's a ridiculous thing to do absolutely ridiculous it's a decision born out of total denial Like the aspect of governmental and public policy, which is informed by this weird, outdated, almost like puritanism of things like sex work, drugs, I mean, it's just so like tedious and outdated. I remember reading about the idea that, you know, I mean, it's just so like tedious and outdated. I remember reading about the idea that, you know, know people who use weight loss medication.

There's been a propensity of people using weight loss medication, right? For obesity and things like that. And part of the reason that's, so I believe I'm right and saying that part of the reason that's happened is because that a company, a pharmaceutical company developed a drug for diabetes. And they found that the, one of the side effects of it was it kind of stymied hunger and helped with weight loss, right? So then all of those, basically this fucking boutiquey kind of industry came out where people were just developing it. And now loads of people take it and it's work for them.

And the reason it's, part of the reason it's happened is because recent medical studies have shown that certain people don't produce the hormone or the chemical in the brain that tells you that you're full. And I think it's called GLP1, right? And what that effectively says is that it's really obesity or people being overweight is far less about lifestyle choice judgment and far more about the balance of chemicals in one's individual brain, right? So if you're someone who produces that hormone or whatever it is chemical normally, then you will more than likely have a normal way and have a normal lifestyle around food. If you don't, it will be totally dysfunctional. And what these drugs are doing in some cases is replicating that chemical to therefore make you far more easily able to regulate your weight and your diet. The point of it is that this is now no longer a judgment issue or a kind of laziness issue or whatever is actually a medical issue. Now, you can easily apply that to addiction as well.

Addiction has been proven time and time again. through studies to be a medical issue. The problem is public policy and the daily telegraph, a daily mouth, fucking Fox News, whatever you want to make it about, is not prepared to admit that and is therefore continually influencing people to have these outdated, stupid opinions about how we deal with things like drug abuse. If they're treated as a completely medical health issue, you would actually make some progress rather than this virtue-signing idea of how people abusing drugs somehow makes them a terrible person.

And the irony of that is, as well, that the more you don't treat it as a health issue, and the more you treat it as a societal issue around judgment, the more crime you fucking get, because people don't get the support they need, so they end up robbing people or doing terrible things or committing even more crime. And the whole point of them doing that is because it's not being treated properly because the people, the very same people who complain about crime rates are the same people who don't want to medicalize people's, or Medicaid, people's clear addiction and health issues.

It's just so fucking immature. It's embarrassing. It should be embarrassed by it. But it's the same way they sort of, like, there's quite a lot of stuff at the moment about payment processes, you know, governments leaning quite hard on payment processors who in turn are leaning quite hard on video games. sort of marketplaces who sell adult games to adult people who enjoy adult games.

And they're basically saying, we're a bit concerned about some of the content in your... And it's like, right, okay, right, is this... We sort of make great strides and, you know, about freedom of expression and stuff. And then there's always that puritanical kind of, you know, Christian kind of like rollback. And it's just kind of like two steps forward, one step back. A lot of it is rooted in religious faith, isn't it? Particularly in the United States. And I think how that all links back to...

drug testing at festivals which obviously what you brought up is just that look fucking grow up people are going to take drugs right people are going to take drugs and whether you like it or not the vast majority of the people who take them

are going to be fine now some people aren't going to be fine and therefore it's probably best that if they're going to do it anyway because we live in a world where adults make their own choices why don't we give them the education and the information they can get to know what they're actually taking then you know all

this other stuff you care about apparently like strain on the health service. You know, crime, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, won't be as affected because if you go to a festival and you buy some drugs and you get it tested and it turns out to be fucking anthrax, you chuck it in a bin and you put it down to experience. You don't take it because you don't know what you're taking. Now, you may trust the streets, Pete Donaldson, but not everyone's able to do that. No. Do you trust the fields?

I trust the fields. And also you kind of, and also like the variance in how strong everything is. It doesn't it, it could be normal stuff with no crap in it, but it could just be stronger than what you used to. So like, you need to know how strong things are. Bristol, I think Brighton as well, but certainly in Bristol, got quite a few friends live in Bristol. Oh, my cats are coming in now, by the way.

He's probably talking about drugs. Can somebody say catnip? How strong is the catnip at this festival? It depends entirely which cat it is. If it's one of them, he won't say anything. It was the other one. He'll shout the house down. Anyway, in Bristol, they have these, they used to have,

they still do but they used to have these shooting galleries right for addicts and i remember the daily mail particularly getting really funny about like oh this is a disgrace what society have we come to you know we're encouraging people to take drugs now it's like we're we're not doing that that's not what this is killing teenagers we're just not killing teenagers who haven't built up any sign of resistance to the drugs it's it's all yeah it's that but it's also do you know what if they're doing it there they're doing it with a clean needle so they're not going to contract a disease which therefore is going to put more pressure on the health service. They're not going to be doing a doorway and they pass out and they get raped or kicked

in or robbed. They're just doing it there because they've got an addiction. Now, what a lot of these shooting galleries used to do is they used to gently encourage people to move on to recovery. So go into opioid replacement drugs like methadone programs and things like that to try and hopefully wing them off drugs going forward. It was all part of like an outreach thing which was trying to do a good thing while living in the reality of how the world actually is, not how we'd like it to be.

And people just don't fucking do that now. And those testing things weren't even at festivals. They were like that in that to get even access to the testing facility, you had to go through about three or four, you know, pages of someone just telling you, this is what this does to your body, this is what the long-term damage can be and stuff. So it wasn't a fucking airy, fairy, go fucking see how strong this biff there is in this fucking tent. You know, educated people telling people about the risks and the dangers about taking the drugs that they are about to taste. I mean, I am a massive colloidal silver man myself, though.

Oh, no, you are. I know you've always been into that. What was the guy who took all that colloidal silver and then turned silver himself and then died? What was the reason he was doing that thought? I think silver's got antibacterial, sort of antibiotic properties, isn't it? That's why like, you know, old medical equipment always silver, wasn't it? It's kind of like it doesn't carry a lot of, you know, viruses. It doesn't carry microbes and stuff.

So it's quite clean. Yes, this is a guy who called Paul Carrison, who died in 2013, an American guy from Washington State, whose skin was famously a purple blue color because he had very first skin and he was and freckles, but he started taking a homemade colloid. silver treatment apparently and rubbing silver preparation on his skin to treat problems including sinus

problems, dermatitis and acid reflux so he's basically self-medicating right? He died from an unrelated heart attack apparently oh right okay so he died he was a heavy smoker as well love that I won't try I won't want to do something that he had a heart attack and

and then contracted pneumonia and then and then died he continued to take colloidial silver right up until his death yeah there was this I think he was on like you know your Maori povitches of this world kind of like you know Jerry Springer kind of

he was on Oprah Winfrey apparently famous in 2008 right so he's interviewed and he's this Papa Smurf kind of looking character and he was basically saying yeah I've been doing it on my life and the doctors say it's actually quite dangerous at the levels that I'm taking it and I'm probably I'm probably

I am going to stop taking it and Oprah's I think sort of saying, are you pledging to, you know, never take this again? And he's like, no, I'm never going to take this again. And then he stops and he thinks, and he goes, I'll probably will take it again, actually. It was a lonely moment in interview. I don't know. I think it's just kind of like, you know what, quack. It's like, you know, quack adjacent medicine is like, it's quite alluring, isn't it?

You know, it's like, it's what I'm surprised RFK Jr. is not absolutely roys up to the max and full of great particles and stuff. It's a sort of thing you'd imagine he'd get up in. He was absolutely nailing the Zinn, when he was doing his, he was doing that while he was doing his confirmation hearing. Just take five minutes off the Zinn, man. Jesus.

Like, it's a really good doctor on Instagram who meticulously and religiously debunks everything RFK Jr. says in every interview he gives. Nice, okay, yeah. She was, yeah, she was on it in the other day because he did this thing in the Oval Office where he was just listing the ingredients of some fucking product he'd found on the supermarket shelf

and he had no idea what any of them were and because they had long kind of medical names scary names, yeah, basically chemicals and she was like, yeah, that's vitamin B. That's, um, yeah, that's um, folic acid. We have to give that to, we'd give that to pregnant women, you know. Yeah, like he had no idea what he's fucking talking about. And the thing about that is,

do I think that the person in charge of the health policy for 300 of million people should be medically qualified? Yes, I do. But even if they're not, just read a fucking book, you absolutely moron. They should be automatically anti-vaccinated. That's the one is quite an important. But by, speaking of, speaking to blue skin, Peter, when I was looking up, Paul Carrison, when you mentioned him the other day, I also found this, this people

called the Fugates who are commonly known as the blue Fugates who are an ancestral family living in I want to say the Appalachians or something or maybe somewhere in the hills of Kentucky who have got a genetic trait related to some kind of blood disorder which makes them blue as well but they're not and I don't want to be disrespectful about them

because I'm sure there are proud people I don't know anything about them they um i don't know they're still around even actually but they're not as pleasingly blue as paul right okay it's a far more mild blues and paul's are you know artificially created blue skin i feel like paul's got a lot of downtime that he can because of his age he can sort of get away with getting a lot of silver in but these guys are probably a little bit busyer just looking after the families and stuff i suppose yeah yeah they've not chosen that life they're not i've chosen they're born into that life yeah exactly um all right pete there's

Let's get some colloidal silver down ourselves in the ad break, shall we? All right. Okay. Kathleen Falbig was known as Australia's worst female serial killer. She was convicted of killing her four infant children until a scientist uncovered the truth. Scientists want to know the truth and want to get to the bottom of things, particularly in a case like this where science can solve it.

The lab detective is the story of a shocking miscarriage of. justice, and an investigation into why Kathleen's story might not be the last. Listen, wherever you get your podcasts. It's the Luca Picshaw. Devour us, discover us. I can't wait for discovery. That was my impression of Candace Owens, speaking of American politics. She's a fascinating, I think we're just, these days, we are like,

Like, I mean, we're just terminally surrounded by absolute fucking idiots everywhere we go. Like, you can't, the internet's a massive part of the daily life, right? And if you're just going to go on Google Maps and check where you're going, you'll be fine. And if you just want to buy sign off Amazon, you'll probably be broadly fine or whatever. If you go to anything that's got some kind of user contribution, it is impossible to avoid morons everywhere. It's more just that... Why have we elevated them as well? Well, I just think we've gone past the sort of creatures who inhabit the, you know,

the corals of power in America and to a less extent in Britain. We've gone past the point where people are embarrassed for their acts, you know what? And that's why Farage keeps losing and then coming back, losing and coming back. You know, Boris Johnson will be back at some point. You know, all these people who just do not mind embarrassing and debasing themselves, they always come back because they don't have that bit in their head that is embarrassed. So all of the people who seem to be quite successful, they're successful because that part of their brain doesn't really work.

And I used to find that quite inspirational. But now I just sort of got... Just tired of it, man. But they're making so much money. With the story of Andrew Tate, for example, right? Right. If Andrew Tate... He's been quiet recently.

Where's he been? you've been up to I'm not really sure but if he had been 20 years older right so he came of age in the way that he's come of age in I don't know

30 years ago so 1995 right yeah he was as far as I understand it a moderately successful kickboxer won a couple of belts did his thing then obviously just became too old for it or you know found his level

or beaten or whatever right and then and that was that and then what he would have done is he would have either gone into becoming a kickboxing coach or trainer, or he would have gone on a load of wacky get-rich quick schemes, which loads of people used to do back in the 80s and 90s, probably around some kind of VHS self-help tape or whatever. And he might, he might have been Tony Robbins, right?

Because you got while two of them were successful, right? But the chances are he would have faded into obscurity, possibly commit some kind of crime, given what we know about him now, and been notorious in that way. But that would have basically been the ceiling. Now, because he's able to appeal to several million, sadly, like essentially 13-year-old boys, and he's propped up by a quite nefarious technological algorithm,

he is now one of the most famous people in the world, and probably very, very wealthy as well, although I don't know there's any transparency around. wealth. I'm not sure how much he's kind of artificially inflating that. The point just being that his chat and his educational level and his engagement rate, if everything was being equal, as he wasn't being propped up by an algorithm, is appallingly bad. If you, if you, if you, if you sit there and listen to him, tell a joke or, or a story, or give out some advice, if you just broke it down, transcribed it and wrote it onto a piece of paper, it would be a 30,

year old boy's piece of advice or a joke, right? Two things that spring to mind that I've genuinely seen him say. One is it's a piece of advice to camera that's about 10 seconds long and it goes around the world with millions and millions of views on TikTok and Instagram and it is literally just him with his top off with a cigar on the go saying the best piece of advice I was given by someone was when you're about to go broke, don't. right okay yeah that's not that's not real advice right it's a platitude and the second one was like he he tells a story to his brother about how they've got a mutual friend who's really frightened of water

so what they'd like to do is next time he falls asleep put him on one of their boats and drive him out in the boat into the sea and then wake him up and they're like cracking up laughing like it's the funniest trick that's ever been played like this is the level we're talking about he appeals to a 13 year old boy because he is a 13 year old boy in a man's body. It's like big. It's basically the film big if Tom Hanks was a complete cunt. I like that man with, there's a man with a beard who

is kind of friends with, yeah, I mean, you never hear their opinion, but there's a man who's like friends with them and he basically says that he'll take a bullet for the tait and, you know, he loves their parents and stuff and it's just like, I've seen that, yeah. It's just really, like really

funny stuff. Again, just not having any shame really, really helps in this work right now. Anyway, let's get away from now. I want to do an email. I actually have plans to an email. That's okay. Okay then. It's from our friend Bill. Hello to you, Bill. And it's a follow-up on, remember the racist spatula? I do, yes. Paula Dean's racist spatula, yeah. Yeah, do we need to go through Paula Dean's pottered history very quickly again or not bother? It's just a problematic, problematic cook, really, who

racial slurs, sexual discrimination. Very sugary, very greasy, very greasy, Yeah, derogatory remarks regarding African-Americans. If I was a nice, normal person from the Southern States, I'd be fucking pissed off with her because I've been to the Southern States, and there's lots of nice people down there. They're not all racist, she is, and she claims to be a kind of ambassador, if you like, for the Southern States. Anyway, so we talked about her because she had a range of merchandise and so on gave it out of that baby shower. It was awkward, and now here we are. So Bill's back in touch, says,

Hi, guys, Bill here. I've just started writing for an online food website and I'm cracking a blog out on state fair food. So state fair food, there's like a load of classic dishes in like quote unquote state fair food. Bill said it turns out Paula Dean claimed to have invented a couple of these state fair classics like deep fried butter. You interested in that?

That's already fried, isn't it? Are you interested in that? You need to deep fried butter? Well, of course I'm interested in it. It sounds absolutely delicious. And a dish called The Luther, which is a burger with donuts instead of Baps. However. I mean, oh, good God.

Yeah. That would be claggy, wouldn't it? Yeah, I think so. According to Bill, the real originators of the Luther is a Georgia bar who claimed Luther van Ross had run out of Baps at home, but had a couple of crispy creams knocking about and used them instead, hence it being called DeLuther. Bill goes on to say, I hadn't heard of either before yesterday, which is a weird coincidence. I'm now thinking of rewriting the article not to be so dean heavy,

given the not-so-recent allegations against it that you just revealed to me. But the reason I included the email, Pete, is because two other notable state fair classics, according to Bill, deep-fried Coca-Cola. I don't know how that works. I don't even know how you'd even do that. Oh, my God. Here's the pierceder-resistant. It comes all up Donaldson at the end.

Dill pickle iced tea. Right. Now, that screams Pete Donaldson to me, and that's why I wanted to include the email. Thanks for getting in touch, Bill. Pete, can I get your thoughts on deal, pickle, iced tea, please? Well, I'll give you the, I'll give you the frozen cork thing first, because I think, I mean, they must freeze it, cover it in batter, then get that fried. So that's probably how they've done that, but I don't know how it doesn't just explode.

It just melts and you get a bit of soggy batter. So would you like to know, I'll tell you what it is. It's Coca-Cola, Frozen Coca-Cola-flavored batter, deep-fried. Oh, right, okay. Then topped with Coca-Cola syrup, whipped cream, cinnamon sugar, and a cherry. So it's a dessert That is naughty That is proper naughty

I bet it's delicious And the dill pickle iced tea Do you need a salty Vinegarie addition to your I mean Dill pickles are particularly sweet Aren't they But would you want that in your tea

I guess I guess iced tea in the South It's just very sugary No it's not You've got two types here Just so you know You've got very very unsweetened ice tea which they do drink a lot in the south which i've been served up

before and i wasn't expecting it it's actually not very nice and you get sweetened iced tea which is really really sweet so dill pickle ice tea which is invented at the minnesota state fair a number of years ago is brewed black tea infused with dill pickle flavor and served with a dill pickle spear garnished with a rim of um salt and dill Right, I see. You'd be into that, wouldn't you? That sounds like a sort of thing you would like. I mean, it's quite complicated, isn't it?

It's very complicated. It's just a lot of things going on, I suppose. So deep fried Coke was invented at the 2006 State Fair of Texas and won the title of Most Creative in the competition. And it's very popular, apparently, in Texas. It still sells a lot of cups. Yeah. Big fan of that.

Big fan of that, and I would definitely get that down me. Dickie and Edinburgh, hi, chaps. I could obviously check online to see if this was true, but I've decided I no longer believe in the old buzz killer known as Google in sociable conversational situations. Completely agree. AI has ruined that fucking thing, and Google are protesting that searches are up,

but by all indications, nobody seems to trust Google at the moment because their AI stuff is so terrible. Obviously, you know, Google has its users. uses says Dickie in Edinburgh. I'm not an idiot, but I've personally lost too many fun arguments thanks to annoying fact checkers. So Pete, let me put your mind at rest. Listen to your recent story about pissing in a car park reminded me that it is definitely legal to urinate on the back left tire of your own car. What? It is legal to urinate on the back left tire of your own car. I can't remember how or why I know this, but it's brought me great comfort and relief many

times. Don't Google it. What's the point? Just let it go. Pee on your back left tire of your own car. safe in the knowledge that your law can't touch you, probably. Love the show. Never found a battery worth sharing, but the hump continues. Dickie in Edinburgh. Is Dickie cajoling us into Googling, peeing on your back left tire? Is the front right tire out of bounds

because it would make the controlling of the car more difficult? So I looked this up because I had heard a weird myth about this, like an urban myth thing about this way back in the day. Right. And so I found the website which went through all the apparently reported weird British driving laws and whether they were true or not. And one of them was that London black calves must carry a bale of hay and a sack of oats in their boot at all times. Apparently, that was the case back in the day in about 1831 or whatever, but the law was abolished in 1976 and in practice it never actually fucking happened. So that kind of, that kind of did partly happen from what I can make out.

But one of the myths was, or one of the kind of inclusions in this website, was, it's legal for a man to urinate in public as long as it is against the rear offside wheel of his motor vehicle and his right hand is on the vehicle. That's apparently how it's reported. I see. And I'm going to, I'm going to read the Snopes-esque debunking of it. Although this is widely reported as fact, this is not true. No general law forbidding urination in public exists, although it is often an offence, the local bylaws.

I don't know what the difference is, but there we go. The same is true of the off-sighted law that pregnant women are allowed to urinate in a policeman's helmet. There is no law allowing for such a practice, but local authorities are expected to exercise discretion in these cases. So while there is no law for bidding a pregnant woman for urinating into a policeman's helmet, a policeman is unlikely to offer her such an opportunity either. And I guess when it comes down to, can you take a slash on your own car, if a

policeman catches you, he's going to use his discretion apparently. Right, okay. So, I mean, discretion, but then you're kind of, the law is either the law or isn't the law, you know. I don't like the idea of someone using discretions in that. I mean, I guess it's not like... But I think, Pete, the law is always open. Am I right in saying that the law is always open to some kind of interpretation?

Because, of course, if you choose to take it all the way to court or whatever, then you'll be judged by a magistrate or in sort of serious offence, a jury of your peers about whether you actually committed a crime or not, right? just in a lot of these really kind of small cases, like when I got court cycle on the, you know, on the pavement or whatever, the policeman just says, look, do you want to fix apparently notice? It's 40 quid and you can get on with your day. Or do you want to take this to court?

And you obviously just go, I'll pay the 40 quid thanks. So there was, oh, that's, I mean, to be honest, you are, I think it's fair to say the sort of person who may consider taking it all away, unless he had your banked rights because you were on the payment. I told you what caught by twice by the same policeman of in about two weeks the second time he caught me

shook my hand nice to see you again sir patronising patronising love that 80 pounds please there was near our office

actually there was actually it wasn't anywhere near our office it was it was in an old gate there were police all around one of the

streets and they were just stopping pretty much everyone who was doing something naughty there was this massive sting operation oh yeah

you know it was very exciting seeing everybody getting up very upset. Did you get fingered on that? I wasn't on a line bike but I was enjoying the I think it's just for people running red lights which is you shouldn't be doing. I've been on the line bike before riding up a road

and some cyclists coming the other way I've been telling all the cyclists including me by the way don't jump that light because police are there. Yeah okay right a little bit of community solidarity by the way I would also just say as a general rule I don't jump red light anyway

but there are quite a lot of absolutely pointless cycle track red lights in central London that serve absolutely no purpose and when I got busted I was jumping one of them wasn't jumping the fucking red light at elephant and castle roundabout

because I don't quite like not to die there are red lights and then there are red lights anyway let's go fuck all I'm hearing is fuck the feds that's all I'm hearing is fuck the motherfucking police fuck the motherfucking police

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