The Luke and Pete Show - In a hostel with a boy from Switzerland

Episode Date: September 17, 2026

That’s it, we’ve decided that making fridges is far too easy now. Your favourite LAPS dancers are back to check in with the enshittification of modern life. At least Luke’s been growing ample fa...una in his new garden.We also run roughshod over modern skincare routines, assess cockroach infestation sleeping tactics and hear of some nuclear-grade small talk from Donaldson. Send us your latest stories, questions and comments here: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com.The Luke and Pete Show is the sometimes ridiculous, always funny podcast with Luke Moore and Pete Donaldson: two men who have time on their hands and a good idea of how to waste it. Subscribe to get your comedy podcast fix every Monday and Thursday. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Would you like to buy my second-hand peaches? It's the Luke of Peach show. Pete and Luke with you. Luke, I've just had a peach. The Luke and Peach and Peach. The Luke and Peachy Peach, sure. I have not had a peach in ages. And I tell you what, it really hit the spot.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I like a peach. I have to say, I prefer it's rather less heralded cousin than nectarine. Because it's not got the furry skin. I think the skin can be a little. tart and I think the furiness calms it down a bit. I find the furiness it just quite simply has the texture of a food stuff that one should not
Starting point is 00:00:42 be eating. What other food is furry and then you eat it? I don't understand but there's not many furry foods around and I think there's a reason for that. I think it's I'm trying to think furry foods. There's um...
Starting point is 00:00:56 Kiwi. Brie, Kiwi. But you don't eat the... Brie is not furry. It is slightly furry. What are you eating? How long are you in the fridge? If you rub your finger across the, what would you call it, the crust, the white sort of stuff. The rind. The rind. The rind. The rind is slightly, slightly furry. I'm not having that. You live in your own world, you. I'm going to get you a lovely bit of brie. Maybe if it's not had the right brie. If I was around your house
Starting point is 00:01:21 for a dinner party, which, let's face, it would never happen because I'm never invited. But if I was, I'm not being invited to your house. You've moved house. I could have christened it with some lovely brie. I let you come to my old house and have a lovely little tink around with some computers. You loved it. Yeah, it felt a bit... You were drilling hard drives. And that's not a euphemism. It makes a...
Starting point is 00:01:41 It kind of makes me think it was some kind of like Maker-a-Wish thing. It's like Pete's looking a bit down. Let's get him... I'm not going to lie, there was a bit of that involved. Let him tinker around with the computer with the one screwdriver, Luke's got in his house. Do not... Guilty.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Do not... Do not tit for tap me when you know full well you've been to my house and drilled hard drives. I've never been to your house. Let me just take the scenario one step further. If I was invited to your house for a lovely dinner
Starting point is 00:02:06 you know, pot noodle and a wank, and afterwards you brought a cheese course out and you said to me it's a lovely bit of brie here it's nice and furry I would say, no thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Give this cheese a ruffle. You've been very gracious as a host but I will not be partaking thank you very much in your furry brie. Give this cheese a little ruffling and your furry jamboree out loud, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:28 The amount of times I do go for food in my house and it's, you know, for whatever reason it's just the elements have got to it it happens it happens it happens and my fridge you know that little hall that little sort of like um what would you call it like a little what's that bit in the corner of your eye where tears come out the tear duct the little tear duct they've got a little they've got a little they've got a little they've got a thought we'd have a fancy name and it probably does but you don't know it so i find out the medical name for a tearduct you
Starting point is 00:02:56 you basically just went you just basically went the i p p that's that's how sort of complex you've used. It's called a nasal a crimmol duct. There, thank you. A nasal a criminal duct. A smooth criminal duct. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:11 All that. The lecremal gland. Lecrude. Anyway, you carry on. Anyway, and I, it's basically like that in the back of your fridge. That it just sort of absorbs
Starting point is 00:03:24 sort of water and I don't know where it goes. You never. Sometimes there's ice on the back of the fridge, isn't there? Yeah, but like, where does that little sort of duct go? I suppose to empty the, that out? Are you supposed to pull out the fridge and sort of like milk it?
Starting point is 00:03:36 I don't know where there's on the water go. You had some concerns, some deep concerns recently about the quality of cookware these days. Would you apply that concern to the quality of refrigeration? Yes, I would. I think it's too damn easy
Starting point is 00:03:50 to make a fridge these days. It's even easy to make those tiny little peas or I forget what the actual physical term is about how you use a piece of water or whatever to make make something called her. But they do make those little sort of canned fridges
Starting point is 00:04:06 I've got a real problem with. They're a waste of energy and a waste of time. There's a meme, particularly popular meme in the US, about garage fridges. Have you heard about that? No. How like basically, if your parents had, you know, they bought a fridge,
Starting point is 00:04:22 because obviously people got bigger houses in the US, they have big garage and stuff. And or basements, maybe more pertinently. But anyway, if you bought, if your parents bought a fridge in the 80s, and stuck it in the garage, it's still going strong. It's your dad's beer fridge, and it's never given you a minute's trouble.
Starting point is 00:04:39 It's 45 years old, and it's still calling your dad's beers just as he likes them, yet every single fridge you buy in the last five years now it's got a shelf life that is crudently short in comparison, right? I like that. I like that. Does that ring broadly true, then? That does ring broadly true.
Starting point is 00:04:56 And just things like my mum Zion is still going strong, and you use it, It's like, oh, this is really working. Not because of any, like, you know, the steam function long since left. It's just the fact that it's a big chunk of metal. Heavy. Gets really hot. It just gets really hot.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I remember my great-grandmother, my nana, I can actually remember. She used to heat her iron up on the stove. Mm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And use that. Wouldn't you get, like, sort of, wouldn't it get dirty? I don't see how that could have work. I don't know how that worked.
Starting point is 00:05:29 What do you mean? I mean, my great-granddad just had really burnt clothes. I can't remember. Yeah, well, it must be a kind of metal that doesn't sort of tarnish or doesn't get rusty or doesn't, you know, it has all of the quality. I guess I just always assumed that's how
Starting point is 00:05:42 they worked back in the day, though, right? That's how they heated them up. The same way you'd heat a pot of water on the harbour. Yeah. Do you ever have an elderly family member who had a mangle when you were a kid? There was always a mangle. It was, yeah, somehow they'd always be in the back garden.
Starting point is 00:05:57 They'd always one of this so heavy. They'd be dragged out in the back garden. I think Frank Champion's got one. They'd be dragged out of the back garden and they'd just be like, well, that just lives there now. It just gets rusty and looks rustic and, you know, lived in. So basically, presumably they just speed up the drying process, did they? Yeah, they just squeeze all of the, instead of just doing your kind of like,
Starting point is 00:06:17 you know when you're sort of inverse, I can't do it with my wrist stuff, I fell off my bike, when you sort of squeeze it out manually, they just basically just squeeze all of the, all of the possible, the watery possibilities out of the, out of the clothes. I'm not, it's the sort of thing you would buy, isn't it? Um, I'm got the room. I'm trying to find places for me wood now.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I've, I've taken to take me wood outside now. I've got like a plastic sheet down. You are the man, more than any other human being I've met, who spent so much time talking about the purchase of and the storage of wood. Yeah. But it's not treated wood, but I'm keeping it outside and I just can't. What's it for? I just don't want to go rotten.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Just, just bits. I used four bits of, big, long bits of wood. to fix some shelves earlier today. So, you know, just to keep all my power tools on my shelf. Because you buy, again, we're talking about the cheapness of stuff. You buy a metal shelf, an affordable metal shelf from somewhere like B&Q. You get it home, it's a piece of shit. You get it up there and it's just wibbly wobbly and the bits of cardboard.
Starting point is 00:07:24 It is just cardboard. It's not even chipball anymore. Don't hold anything of any weight. It's just terrible. What's the thing? Buy cheap, buy twice as this there? The inshittification of our society continues apace, Peter. I'm delighted to tell you that
Starting point is 00:07:39 took care took the decision to apply a liberal application of the deatomacious earth yesterday. Oh, that's right, yes. Now, what was that for? The slugs. The slugs. The little slugs. The little slugs.
Starting point is 00:07:52 It's a product for pests generally. But I think it's apparently a particularly effective on soft body pests as they call it, rather he mystically. I know it's horrible, horrible freight. Just say slags and snagre. I've got a soft spot somebody's best fear.
Starting point is 00:08:09 You fucking have as well. Yeah. Would you like to hear about the process? Yeah, remind me what is in the, how did this become diagrammatic or whatever is it called? Diatomaceous Earth. Diatomaceous. How did the Earth become diametis, diametaceous?
Starting point is 00:08:26 I'm tired. Diomatatious, no, diametis. Diatomatius. Diarrayous is... Diarrhea. How did it get diarrhea? So, Atomaceous is essentially powdered fossils. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yes. Yes. It's like... Right. Yes. And it's like... I think... Is it shells or is it like these weird algae?
Starting point is 00:08:50 Like the dried out algae or something like that. Anyway, it's organic anyway. And we need it because we've got an old house and there's gap. all over the place and slugs on damp nights slugs can crawl in yes okay yeah and so what we did is we dusted the atomatious earth between all the gaps in the floorboards and skirts and then once we had done that I used an acrylic silicon to seal up and while and wire wool to seal up all the holes and gaps yeah what was the wire wall for is it was it to fur up the woods because some of the holes are
Starting point is 00:09:30 So you've got like, I'd say like thumb-sized circular holes in floorboards. Oh, so you're just like getting a pencil and jamming it through? Yeah, that kind of stuff. Jamming in some wire wool, nice. And so ask me how many slugs they were in the house this morning when I woke up? Zero? Correct. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I mean, that's a very small tumble size. You're looking at the lead table first weekend, aren't you? I can't you? I can't give you three months of slug-free home until I lived the three months. Well, I mean, we're heading into a very, very wet. Exactly. That's why I did it. So that's going to be, that's going to test you.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Lovely. Would you feel confident applying the deatomations earth? I mean, because of your lungs, you have to wear a mask in goggles. Right. Well, I'm always very satisfied about how capable I am at the old silicon sealant, if I'm completely honest with myself. So I use an acrylic. What's the difference?
Starting point is 00:10:18 I don't really know. Right. I'll tell you why I use it. Can they munch the silicon? I bought it, quite simply, off the shelf, because I thought it was silicon. I wonder what makes it different. I mean, I guess it won't, will it dry harder? I might dry harder.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I'll tell you what, that would be in touch. That'll be a touch. Yeah, okay, nice. I hope so. Can we also get what our listeners and viewers will be crying out for, which is a lung update from you, please? Lung update, referred to a cardiologist. Not for your lungs?
Starting point is 00:10:52 Yeah, they don't know what's going on. Refer to a cardiologist, nice block. Did a little, heck of cardiogram on the heart. What kind of guy was he? Just a man who, I imagine, doesn't suffer fools, but also would happily have a pint. You know what I mean? He's a very pinty man, a very pinty heart specialist.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Producer Rory? Much older. But Rory's known in this office as having the paintiest vibe, though, isn't it? The paintiest vibe. No, I think, I think, who's got the paintiest vibe? I don't know. I think Lauren or... Yeah, John.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Maybe, maybe. John. but that's just, you've seen him to close points. Well, yeah. He's made the biggest contribution to the guy. I think Charlie would be producer Charlie here, I think, I believe he's in the room,
Starting point is 00:11:42 head of studio. Charlie, you've thrown your ones up at that. Are you happy with that? Yeah, he's happy with that, yeah, yeah, he's happy with that. He's happy with it, yeah, he's got a Pac-D-5 only because I feel like he was the sort of person who might work, he might have a higher-up position on Clarkson's Farm.
Starting point is 00:11:56 But then, he's got a Clarkson's Farm kind of, vibe, but then he would go solo and be more successful, I think that's... I think Charlie definitely has, he's he's, he kind of geeseer who, you know, you'd back to be working some farmyard machinery and be like, oh, fuck and I don't know he could do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:13 very comfortable with you know what, what comes tomorrow. I'm very much, whenever producer, I was called him, he's head of production, head of production Charlie, he, uh, whenever we've had a studio situation where we've done something new, I've been
Starting point is 00:12:29 very much a nearsayer a what do you call them who smashed up the spinning jenny's a Luddite if you will in a digital world a digital Luddite if you will and Charlie's been it'll be fine and it always is fine
Starting point is 00:12:43 so he's very I think he's very comfortable he would be very comfortable with farm machinery AI I trust him my life because to be quite frank I don't trust myself with my life I would like to be fair to Charlie and give him his flowers
Starting point is 00:12:58 feels like you're going to snap off some of the heads of those flowers and pop them in your mouth. I am because I don't think he's got any AI credentials. You're going to throw, you're going to have the flowers in a box, and you're going to throw them the floor, and it's a shotgun, and you're the Terminator. By the way, I do want to hear more about your cardiologist, but just while we're on this tangent, we grew some gigantic sunflowers on our garden this summer. Wow, okay. I'm talking 12 feet high.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Whoa. The thing is, you do need someone. We had to wire them to the fence, because they were, falling under their own weight. Because they were misbehaving. Yeah, because simply the punishment we administer in our home. We wire people to fences. It's like handmade's tail.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Yeah. The problem with my garden is that nobody in the house knows how to... Sarah's very good at maintaining plants inside the house. It's almost like, I feel like... Do you remember when they had those... Do you remember that Chinese high-rise building where the fifth... They basically made sure that every...
Starting point is 00:13:58 third floor was absolutely decimated by plants. And so the mosquitoes just got higher and higher and higher until it was absolutely unlivable. The lower floor of that, it feels like our house, there's just so much greenery in it. Sarah's very, very good at that sort of thing. But the garden is just like, it's kind of my territory.
Starting point is 00:14:19 I haven't got a fucking clue. It's just a, I tried planting some carrots. They didn't work. Or maybe they didn't. I just didn't work. They just didn't work. They just went, oh, they're rubbing. I just went, oh, he's rubbish carrots.
Starting point is 00:14:29 It just didn't grow. They didn't grow, but to be fair, I was sort of depositing into the soil, like a lot of ground-up cement that I was getting taken off the wall above it. You've basically salted your own earth. I've certainly, I've, yeah. You poisoned your own earth. I poisoned my own well. So, talk to me about the cardiologist, what do they say?
Starting point is 00:14:47 Why are you seeing a cardiologist about your lungs? I don't know. I don't know. The lung person just said, is it, is it even asthma? Let's have a look. Let's ask a cardiologist. So I was like, yeah, fine. I love going to spy.
Starting point is 00:15:00 They have good hot chocolates. So you've got the old marter on the moment. I had the marter a ridiculous amount. Yeah, well, the last time it was absolutely massive, the last one I had. And this one's just a tiny little, it looks like, what does it look like? It looks like a slug.
Starting point is 00:15:15 It looks like a slug on my chest. A little tiny slug. Telling the doctor, telling tales on Daddy Hart. So he said, yeah, so that's what's telling. What sweet song do you think it will sing back to the cardio? It's not beat in Chinese. Bar! You'll just go, ba'er!
Starting point is 00:15:32 Baj! Every time my heartbeat is barge, bosh, bosh, bosh, bosh, bosh. And he gives us an echo cardiogram, which is... Yeah, I've had one of those as well. All good stuff, isn't it? Do you like the noise it makes when you can hear the squishing of the blood through your heart? Because I'm fucking don't. I think it's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Do you know, I find it very hard to make the... Yeah, I find it very hard to make the... the connection between that being my heart that I'm actually seeing. Because it's on a screen, right? It's disgusting. It's absolutely disgusting. It's absolutely gross.
Starting point is 00:16:05 I had an ultrasound as well. Right, yes. Okay, yeah, yeah. So it basically looked like, you know, when you see, you know, when the Wi-Fi of Axis who is pregnant with our son, it's like that kind of thing, but obviously just of the heart.
Starting point is 00:16:17 They can have a good old look at it. That's an echo cardogram, isn't it? Echo, car. Oh, maybe. I thought you were about an electric. It's all sound, isn't it? The ECG is just the one with the lip of the heart. little squit.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Sorry, yeah, I'm talking absolutely shit there. Yeah, EKG is just a thing that they do routinely to check what your heart's doing. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. That's what the recorder's doing now. It's just recording your heart, in it. But yeah, sorry, that's what I had, where they put the jelly on the stuff
Starting point is 00:16:40 that looks like a deodorant and rubs it on your bits. Are you having to pay? Yeah, well, I'm insured, so I've got to pay 500 quid out of pocket, so, yeah, just, it's no quicker, is it? It's not quicker or better than the NHS. For me, they've just got hot chocolate. No, it is much better than NHS
Starting point is 00:16:57 And it was much quicker, Peter I don't know what experience you've had Well, I have, I've had the same process On the same one, right, okay I saw someone the next day He's probably probably had no on Maybe, it was Professor Mark Westwood Shout out to him
Starting point is 00:17:09 Very bloody nice guy Good on him Very good So yeah, it's just It's a little, very tedious, isn't it? But at the end of there Still can't breathe It has got a little bit better
Starting point is 00:17:18 Now it's got rainy So that's got to be something to do with it Isn't it? So maybe I'm going to enjoy my Maybe I'm going to be on top farm in autumn But the dampness not but the dampness not make it worse, you think? No, I think the, I think it's the tree pollen
Starting point is 00:17:31 and everything else that comes along with it, I think. But it has definitely calmed down a little bit, and now it's got a bit cooler and a bit wetter and just, well, the pollen's just in the air, isn't it? And if a bit of rain comes, it takes it down to the ground. I've never seen someone laid to, to be fair, I've seen Vish. But between you and Vich, laid to waste by pollen,
Starting point is 00:17:49 it's pathetic. It's proper beta male stuff. We're lovely little, we're lovely little. little fair boys, aren't we? Love little fair boys. Yeah. Between you, you've been laid to waste by
Starting point is 00:18:02 plants. Yeah. I wouldn't care if it was a Vish thing. I wouldn't care of his nose and eyes and, you know, debilitating that sense. I just can't... What, do you think Vich is putting it on a bit? I think out of the two fair boys, he's the fairest. He's the fairest of them all.
Starting point is 00:18:18 You're at least having the common decency to go to the heart doctor. Exactly. I'm putting... I'm paying... Vich is just like, can I stop the recording, please? Can I start? Can I start? I'm still. I mean, we're all getting to the edge where we're like,
Starting point is 00:18:30 I'm cough and phlegm up. Marcus is sweating. Everyone's ill. What's Jim doing? Jim's, Jim moisturise as well and looks great. He just gets better and better does Jim. Do you know what I think about facial moisturiser? Here we go.
Starting point is 00:18:43 I was thinking this in the shower this morning. Right. So I feel like, you know, they say the more you shampoo your hair, the more you have to shampoo your hair. Because... Is that just, Dirty Boys, they want to do dreadlocks? I think that's what I just want dirty boys tell themselves.
Starting point is 00:18:57 No, what happens is I think if you, say you shampoo your hair I don't know, every day. I've noticed this. I used to shampoo my hair every couple days, every few days maybe, right? Now I do it every day. And I notice how much quicker it is to get greasy. Right. Because I think the hair just gets used to it.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I think there's the same with facial moisturiser. You moisturise your face every single day. And do you moisturise your face? I didn't used to but I've started doing it What do you use, Kiels? No, just any shit that Sarah doesn't want really You must go through some with that forehead My God
Starting point is 00:19:33 There's a lot of surface area there You mainly pay, you mainly concentrate on the old Under Eye area So I've got to say this is where it gets technical I've got separate under eye stuff I think we've got the same size forehead I've just got a widow's peak and you haven't I've got a bigger nose so it probably all evens out
Starting point is 00:19:47 Have you? Yeah I think so Not on Little Look I fucked up the nose on Little Sorry the puppeteer who created Little Luke. No, he's never, what you mean? When Little Luke was born, it was interesting that Little Luke, even though he's not related to you, he's just a small version of you. He's got a little hook nose.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Can I ask one question about Little Luke? Because obviously I find the whole foul episode genuinely disturbing. But the one thing that's stuck with me, which I wanted to ask you directly about, is why have you given him cross eyes? Have I got cross eyes? probably just in inaccurate painting at the end of the day I mean I wouldn't look at little Luke as a kind of
Starting point is 00:20:28 you've also got not got a little hooky nose I've got a big hooky nose I'll show you look it's not a hooky nose is it though that's not a hooky nose it's a big Roman nose it's a big Roman nose luckily I've got the facial surface area
Starting point is 00:20:39 to accommodate it no I don't think I I don't think it was deliberate Luke if I'm honest anyway listen the point I'm making goes where it wants to go if you moisturise every day so I moisturise my face every time I have a shower afterwards
Starting point is 00:20:52 I moisturise my face right if you skip two days your face feels fucking horrendous if you're so tight so dry and I think that's how they get you you know they get you hooked on the good stuff
Starting point is 00:21:03 I think they do I think it's like your skin gets so used to it that you can't be without it isn't there like a sort of Korean facial medicine that's based on slugs can you not rub a couple of slugs yeah a lot of people use on your kite
Starting point is 00:21:15 it's snail mucus generated isn't I don't want to be getting involved with that. We got a lot of it, but the sounds of things. You know what? I could probably start my own business. Well, my nan used to, if we had a cut or something, my nan would wind up a spider's web,
Starting point is 00:21:33 try and put it on that, like a Victorian fucking maniac. Like, to wrap like a wound or a cot or a graze, she'd wrap it in a, she'd try and wrap it. It was unworkable, but she'd wrap it in a spider's web. That's how I became a Spider-Man. What? That's what all people used to do. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:54 She used to wrap wounded... Just say that again from the start. That's how I got asthma. Just say that again from the start. If you got a graze, she'd see if there's a spider web, and you'd wrap your little wounded spider web. Maybe she's demented. Maybe she's just gone mad.
Starting point is 00:22:10 But every time you... If you were to grab a spider's web... Yeah, it's quite hard. It falls apart. I know. I know. I know. She's sort of try and wind it around if it was possible.
Starting point is 00:22:19 It didn't work. I mean, can that have happened? Margaret, but Margaret Jones, it just doesn't work. Peggy, it doesn't work, mate. These people call her Peggy? Pegg, it doesn't work. So my mum's middle name is Margaret, and when we take the piss out of her sometimes,
Starting point is 00:22:32 we'll call her Peggy. She hates you. How rude. By the way, so I've got to tell you as well, a couple of the slugs I've seen in the living room. Right. Leopard slugs. What?
Starting point is 00:22:45 I didn't even know what a leopard slugs. It's just a massive slug. Allow me to type on my mugs. mechanical keyboard. It's got a leopard, it's got a leopard print on it. Whoa,
Starting point is 00:22:54 oh, right, yes, okay. They're fancy, aren't they? What a lovely, what a lovely lads. Fancy little lads.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Lee Max Maximus, literally, biggest slug. What is that the Latin known translates to? Biggest slug. Oh,
Starting point is 00:23:07 you big slug. Their, their conservation state is of at least concern. Well, isn't my fucking house. There's no,
Starting point is 00:23:14 there's no worry about them being extinct, extinct from my place. Oh, there's a, There's an old, presumably Victorian painting of all of the different variations in the slugs. And there's red ones and there's brown ones and there's white ones.
Starting point is 00:23:26 And there's a really anemic-looking one that looks like a penis. Oh, God. So if you had to choose a pest to occupy your house. Hmm. So mouse, cockroach, slug. Yeah. What are you going for? Cockroach, mouse.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I think mice are the, the easiest ones. I don't really bothered about mice. The thing is, though, they do chew the first. fuck out of everything. Do you know what I mean? But the ones that gross you out the most. I'll say cockroaches and slugs would be up there. I don't I don't mind cockroaches all that much. I don't. Like,
Starting point is 00:23:57 come on. Slugs are just, slugs are up there yet. Slugs in your house is just suboptimal. Slugs in the garden, you're like, slugs and snails. I mean, I do have an atrocious amount of slugs and snails and puppy dogs tails. What about puppy dogs? Yeah. Yeah. In the garden. But, uh, yeah, out of those, wood lace, you don't see very often.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And when you do, you're like, oh, I've not seen you since the 80s. What have you been doing? Do you remember the ones that used to roll up in proper little ball? We talked about this before, little kind of... Yeah. They rolled up like little mini cannon balls. Mm.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Yeah. My sister used to call them E's when she was really young. On your mouth. We call them... Yeah, because our big broth was always sticking them in his mouth. No, so we call them Ease in our house. An ecstasy pellet. There's Alan Farage.
Starting point is 00:24:39 So when I went to New Zealand, I stopped in Australia on the way and I was absolutely skin. World Zealand. Yeah, Old Zealand. I was absolutely skinned and I end up getting connected with these two girls who were friends with a couple of friends of mine. I'd never met them before. And they'd be really nice. And they said, yeah, you can stay at our place if you want.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Yeah. We've rented a place. We're staying in Sydney for a while so you can stay in ours. I was only there for a couple weeks. And it's really kind of them. They never met me. But it was that kind of traveller kind of community type thing, word of mouth thing, even before, like, social media and stuff. So it was really kind of them.
Starting point is 00:25:16 So I met them. Pretty good tenant, pretty tidy boy. Well, this is the thing. I met them in this pub. And they're like, oh, yeah, it's all good. Yeah, we'll have a few beers. And you can bring your bag back to hours and backpack them. You can crash in the living room for a couple weeks if you want to.
Starting point is 00:25:30 And I was like, okay, thanks. And then when I got back to their living room, they didn't have a sofa. Right. So I had to sleep on the floor in my sleeping bag on this kind of rug thing. And I was like, that's fine. I don't care. That's fine. And they gave me a spare pillow.
Starting point is 00:25:45 And then I realized that the intent. entire place was utterly infested with cockroaches. And then every time you turn the light on, you just hear that kind of scratch. Skittering around. And I was like, I managed one night in it. And I was like, I can't be doing this. Yeah. I can't be doing this.
Starting point is 00:26:05 I mean, would there be a way to sort of tie your sleeping bag around your heads or on your eyes? I think I probably did do that for the night. I stayed there. I remember we got pizza on the way back from the pub. and the pizza boxes basically live in like slobes because I was like 21 or whatever
Starting point is 00:26:20 and the pizza boxes were discarded in the living room on the floor and I can hear the cockroaches on the pizza boxes. I mean to be fair, pizza boxes patta, pata, pata, pata, pata, it's not helping the situations no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:26:33 And you stuffed your pockets with hot dogs as well. Yeah, I have, yeah. I had a hot dog in each ear one of each nostril. And the signs said, come and get me, cocker's. And a little hot dog mustache with a little neon sign on it,
Starting point is 00:26:46 saying cockroaches, please. Your face is covered in veggie, mate. Yeah, I look like old Greg. I, I, um, so I ended up, um, managing to couple, couple, couple some money together. Right. Uh, sustained a catcoaches. Terrible, yeah, terrible, terrible, terrible hostel for the rest of the time. And I got, I already had a bus booked up to Brisbane, so I was fine.
Starting point is 00:27:07 But yeah, that was not, that was, as you would say, suboptimal. But I think I probably would prefer them to slugs crawl all over me. Yeah. I completely agree. I had a bit of small talk. Some of the most painful small talk you've ever witnessed with a boy from Switzerland.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Even for you? Yeah, even for me. A boy from Switzerland who was staying in a hostel in Islington yesterday. Okay, how did this happen? Why were you in a hostel with a boy from it? I wasn't in a hostel with a boy from Switzerland.
Starting point is 00:27:36 With the way you framed it makes it sound quite sordid. You sound a bit like a Tory MP. Wasn't at a... I wasn't, there's the title. In a hostel with a boy from. from Switzerland. I was, me and Mark from Resumee were getting interviewed for a documentary about
Starting point is 00:27:51 Kendall Nagasaki. And even though he technically hates us and cut a promo on us, but we did our best anyway to say nice things about him. He, and one of the runners was a boy who just landed from, is it Lausanne?
Starting point is 00:28:07 Lausanne, Lausanne, yeah, Lausanne. And he's staying in a hostel in Islington. And I had a good 10 minutes because Mark was late of some of the most painful small talk with a boy from Switzerland. I, you know, you know when you're tired anyway and you've just got nothing in the tank anyway. And still, he made it so difficult. So what was some of the examples of some of those conversations? How expensive, he's moving to Dublin, how expensive Dublin is, how expensive hostels are.
Starting point is 00:28:42 our listenership will be interested in your contribution to this Peter well I was just doing your approach what was your tactics we talked about this what were your tactics what were your tactics? I was going to yeah you know did you do a lot of this stuff and he's like no it's my first show ever it's my first job outside of
Starting point is 00:28:56 Switzerland oh that's interesting you know what is in Los Angeles is that where the HR Giga museum is because that's what I thought it was and he didn't really know who HHR Giga Gaga was how old was you reckon? I'd gone down at it
Starting point is 00:29:11 I couldn't have been older than like 19. Hasn't H.R. Geiger, the guy who designed all those fucking alien. Yeah, exactly. Why are you bringing that into it? Because he's the first Swiss, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:29:22 The first Swissman you can think of. Well, see, that or Mark Hottiger. I doubt he would have been in London Town with him either. Yeah, but, I mean, at least Mark Hothiger has not made some genuinely problematic biomechanical art. It's not problematic.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Why are you scared of it? I'm not scared of it. I am quite scared of it. Why are you scared of it? It's not quite a niche, isn't it? Why are you scared of a duct? Why are you scared of a duct? Why are you scared of it?
Starting point is 00:29:42 of a crispy exoskeleton. But I just think there's a general unwritten rule. Is it the slug thing again? I just think it should be it's probably an unwritten rule that if you the first time you meet someone, don't bring up HR Garga. No, it's a good point. Yeah, I guess I've already got myself to blame, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:01 What would you have done differently if you had this time again? That bit of small talk was the H.R. Gaga, Giga, Giga, of conversation. It was uncomfortable. It was endless. It was endless. your conversation, around the atmosphere in the room. Do you think you'll see him again?
Starting point is 00:30:19 Probably not. He's moving to Dublin. Good luck I say, with the 800-year-off shared accommodation. Right, let's get out of here. We've been in look at the beach, sure. You've been wonderful. If you do see a horrible alien in your house,
Starting point is 00:30:35 just make sure you put wire wall through all of the halls because that's how he got in. That's how he got in. Hello, Linkinpeacho is the way to get in. No, that's not how the way of getting. Hello, how to get in. I've put a bit of conversational and email administrative
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