The Luke and Pete Show - Inhaling our own toxins!
Episode Date: October 22, 2020On today’s episode, Luke rinses Pete for his truly shocking dietary habits. The boys discuss the focus on black pain in various provider’s Black History Month collections. They also examine the sl...ippery slope that is QAnon and debate what exactly drives people to believe such outlandish conspiracy theories.Plus, Luke and Pete debate the ethics of getting pissed at work and finish strong with strange (and accurate!) taxidermy animals. And Pete wants everyone to look up gibbons. Obviously. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Oh, welcome back to the Luke and Pete show. I'm the Pete part of it, and Luke, I believe
you are approaching being the Luke part of it.
I'm 99.9% there, I think. Yeah, yeah. How are you doing?
Good, man. Yeah, sun's shining where I am. I'm having a lovely old cup of coffee and
some unlovable crispy cereal.
Yeah, what is it?
I don't know.
It's like some kind of, it's one of those kind of like country farm kind of cereals
with little bits of freeze-dried strawberry or raspberry in it.
Well, you really are living in the countryside these days.
Look, it's not as good as the nut version.
I'm telling you now, it's not as good as the nut version.
I thought you'd be like a proper like no nonsense and absolute push frosty's man i thought you'd
be like a standard basic level cereal guy because you are in many ways not a puritan but you like to
deny yourself any of their life's pleasures no i know i like to uh eat the sugariest thing possible every option that i take
food wise is always the sugariest thing possible that's that's how i live my life i just want sugar
all of the time baby um i uh my i spent actually i think possibly why i was concerned i might have
some kind of um stomach. A quite serious one last
week was because I'd eaten no less than three individual cinnamon sized boxes of the cinnamon
snack hot tamales ordered from Amazon. And I just ate three boxes in three days. And yeah,
I felt dreadful for the back end of that week. It ruined quite a few social engagements.
So look, if anybody's out there who's like me,
they love their MSG, they love their sugar,
they love their salt,
don't eat three boxes of cinema-sized hot tamales.
It will almost kill you.
Yeah, I don't think you need to go to the doctor
because I can tell you now what the doctor's going to tell you.
Stop doing that.
Stop doing everything you're doing. Stop doing everything you're doing.
Stop doing everything you're doing.
The first thing he's going to say
is he's probably going to take
your blood pressure,
just check your temperature,
or whatever,
and then he's going to start
asking you questions, right?
And you're going to have to
answer those questions,
and some of them
will involve you saying to him
what you've just said
to every listener listening now,
where that's what you've eaten.
And he's going to say,
all right,
he's going to close his book in quite a dramatic way has he got a book i don't know he's like his
diary or whatever you close it like that yeah close it and go mr donaldson you're wasting my
time you're wasting your own time the nhs is under huge pressure as it is because of covid
yeah get out of my surgery and on the way home, pick up some vegetables, drink plenty of water
and do not darken my door
again unless it's on a fucking gurney.
That's what he's going to say.
And I'll say, Doc, could I
maybe get a flu jab?
Here's a flu jab, mate. Come on.
Can I just have a flu jab? Doc, can I use your address
for my next Amazon pantry delivery
because they won't keep bringing
stuff to my house anymore.
And then all the hot tamales will turn up
and you will have a little sex party with them.
Yeah, I love a hot tamale.
I mean, I think I ordered it last week.
They're like candy corn slash...
They're like jelly beans.
Hot, spicy, cinnamon, challenge-shaped jelly beans.
They're delicious.
They are lovely.
They're like an American classic.
I've never even, I mean, you say that,
but I've never even really heard of them.
They're like Mike and Ike's kind of shaped kind of things.
Or Good and Plenty's.
They're the licorice torpedoes of American cinema food.
I love all that stuff.
It's so good and sugary and murderous.
Have you ever had like proper American cinema popcorn with the butter on it?
Not really.
No,
no.
So for those who don't know,
uh,
in the U S the,
you can,
you buy popcorn from the,
from the vendor,
obviously as you would normally.
And then at the side,
much the same as you'd have like one of those push down plunger things for
ketchup in McDonald's or whatever. They have loads of those and they're all filled with like hot
and they call it hot butter but it isn't i don't think it is actually butter because it smells
very strange and it kind of coats all the popcorn with this sticky gluey wet stuff and i i when i first had it i was like i
don't see the attraction in this i'm not eating this and i couldn't go i couldn't go near it i
didn't like it at all and but they're obsessed with it over there well they're kind of like you
know like we had um kind of uh chocolate sort of caramel salted caramel uh quite recently there
was a salted caramel revolution and um everything's got salt in it now
uh when it comes to caramel and it does work but they've been doing that for years like the
peanut butter cups and stuff like that they've been mixing the the sweet and the and the salty
uh for a very long time it it just gives the uh the sweets a bit more of a a bigger dimension a
bigger palette i would say i think they've always been miles ahead of us um in terms of different flavors
of things haven't they yeah yeah massively the flight i mean i've said this before i think um
i believe i have but just to reiterate like don't don't be in leicester square they've got a big
shop called m&m's world right they do not have it's a massive tourist attraction it's called
it's literally called m&m's world They don't have as many flavours in there
as you get in the general corner shop in the US.
I didn't think that the M&M World had many flavours.
I think it was all just about the colours.
I thought they just, you know, M&M's are pretty basic, aren't they?
I mean, there's just the nutty ones and the non-nutty ones,
even if they do nutty ones anymore.
But M&M's are unlovable at best.
No, I like them. No good. A peanut butter M&M's are unlovable at best no I like them no good
a peanut butter M&M
is a thing of beauty
then why have they got
talking ones on the telly
why are they having
sex with women and stuff
yeah that's confusing
because
those adverts
you have
I'm pretty sure
I remember an advert
where the guy
almost threatens
to eat himself
which is weird
and then there's one
where
the woman is having an affair
with a giant M&M and the husband comes home from work.
Again, I don't know what they're going for there.
Like a gigantic anthropomorphic kind of M&M.
I don't see how that's looking to sell M&Ms.
No, it doesn't make me want to have M&M's big, small or talking
in any description.
I've never liked M&M's, they're not
great. I just don't understand
why people would go to Leicester Square.
Even American tourists,
they will walk past M&M World
in Leicester Square and they'll want to go in.
It's weird.
Do you find that you
presumably find that you've you you presumably
find that you behave like a tourist in other cities though right yeah yeah yeah yeah walking
around slowly getting in the way all that kind of stuff yeah yeah just kind of like getting off a
train and sort of looking around not really sure where i am but everything's so enchanting and i
think i'm enchanting and you get the fuck out of my way, Donaldson, you tit. You're struggling for your holidays at the moment as well, mate,
because of the old lockdown
business.
It's doing my nutting.
We can't go anywhere now.
My holiday levels are
devastatingly low
right now.
That's probably going to
necessitate a little meltdown
as well, isn't it, at some point?
Yeah,
no doubt.
Struck yourselves in,
guys.
Speaking of,
you know on Monday we were talking about
the movies we'd seen.
I actually watched
another movie the other day.
I finally got round
to watching
Once Upon a Time
in Hollywood.
You seen that one?
Oh,
yeah,
yeah,
decent.
Yeah,
enjoyable.
Very enjoyable again.
A lot of feet.
Tarantino,
obviously,
big foot fetishist. He is. I didn't know there was a lot of feet inantino obviously big foot fetishist
he is
I didn't know
there was a lot of feet
in the movie
is that a thing
is it
all over the gaff
I think
oh yeah
he puts one foot
she puts one foot
on the windscreen
yeah
puts her feet
which is what
she's in the cinema
you know you've
mentioned it
yeah
there's feet
everywhere
it's just feet
all of the cast
just feet
because he did that one with Salma Hayek in From Dusk Till Dawn,
didn't he?
Yeah.
He's an absolute weirdo, Tarantino, isn't he?
He's an odd bod, isn't he?
He is an odd bod.
It was one of his films I've enjoyed the most since
Inglourious Bastards, probably.
Yeah, definitely Return to Farm, if indeed he dropped off any.
I've still not watched any of his groundhouse ones oh no i found that um django unchained and the hateful eight were both like
way too long way too long and they also had like i mean obviously this is quite obvious and say
given that django unchained is literally about a slave but I found the race
I found it just quite uncomfortable to watch like unnecessarily like I mean maybe it isn't
unnecessary I don't know but like if you watch for example 12 Years a Slave which is one of the
best films I've ever seen obviously got a black director and it's done in a way where it's not
it's quite unalloyed right it's saying this is what it was like and it
was fucking horrific whereas i think when you're quentin tarantino and you've got a reputation of
making these stylized type movies where everything's quite stylized you you apply that technique or
that style to a movie like that it just comes it just comes across as massively distasteful, I thought. Yeah, it's a very, very difficult line to kind of work up to,
I think, as a white director.
And he frequently has overstepped that line a few times.
But he has employed a lot of black actors in his time,
probably not as many as he should be.
But yeah, he's not
covering himself and covering everyone i always find like with um i think sky are doing a black
history month uh kind of collection of films and the thing that gets me is like a lot of films are
like really worthy kind of like bookish films and stuff and there's no you know the black history
seems to be um films that represent black history as in like the the
struggle of apartheid or slavery or um segregation in the south and stuff there's there's no actual
kind of celebration of black directors you know making fun films or or films that you know the
the black issue has to be about um the historical like actual historical um events rather than you i think there's an argument
that you said that you could mix in the idea of black history also being black people working in
cinema and directing in cinema and so you know films where there's a bit of joy about fucking
living like i think it kind of it kind of um it gives a very small kind of like um a very small part of of the picture i think and i think uh i'd quite
like to see like just a a set of films where it's not necessarily about um about the parts in
history pretty much all of history where black people have been subjugated and and put down
but people who have broken out and and and being able to make films that aren't about necessarily
uh the black
condition and are just about people living their lives and stuff like that i realize that's a very
you know white person i think i said but i do always i do you know the sort of miserable people
who sort of go you know black you know blah blah when is there going to be a blah blah like i think
there needs to be some celebration of modern black voices in cinema otherwise it's just going
to be just oh you know this is what happened in in the past but it's all different now it's not
all different now um and i think black directors have very very different voices because they've
come from very very different places and i and i you know i think some of those films should be
mixed in so just a a a concatenation of film after film about black people being,
you know, just, you know, destroyed by the hand of the white man, effectively.
Steve McQueen came out, the director of 12 Years a Slave,
and said something about, I don't want to misquote him,
but something about how he's frustrated by things that are called
black British culture, where he would say it prefers just to be British culture.
Yeah, yeah. Which I totally Yeah. It prefers British culture. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Which I totally understand.
I totally get that.
And I think,
um,
one thing you could say about,
uh,
black history month is it's an attempt to get people to understand and turn
to,
and maybe think about things in a way they would never would have before
because ultimately let's be perfectly honest.
If you live in like a small town in the UK,
you're not going to think
about black issues because you don't have to right unless unless you're black obviously so
i think the idea of raising awareness and getting people to think about these things a little bit
more deeply is a helpful thing and the intentions are obviously pure but i do i do understand what
you mean it was like 12 years ago it was like beale street and stuff like that it's like yeah
i've seen all these films and i i them, but they are about harrowing chapters
in black people's lives.
And I just think that doesn't celebrate
the modernity of
black
people working in cinema and creating
different experiences. It's very one-dimensional
for me. Yeah, I get what you mean.
Changing trains slightly,
I had my first, I forgot to tell you
when I saw you, this um i had my first i forgot to tell you uh when i saw you i i had my
this week i had my first direct experience with a covid denying like hoaxing kind of conspiracy
theorist this week oh wow cool on the on the tube on the way into work right so people would have
seen if they're not in london they would have seen that that um
you know um yeah people are traveling to work in public transport and then through part of the
lockdown when we were able to i was driving into the office which is about i don't know seven or
eight miles away and ever since i've been i've changed the public transport and people are
wearing masks generally speaking that's about 95 percent of people are wearing masks and
you assume the others have got a um an
exemption or whatever anyway so people are kind of socially distancing on the tube and i'll sat down
um and there was no one next to me there's a few other people in the carriage and this guy got on
with no mask and he was honestly like ranting and raving and he kept screaming at people
you're inhaling your own toxins you're inhaling your own toxins. You're inhaling your own toxins.
Oh, dear.
And I was like, oh, my God.
The thing is, right, and this is part of the interesting part of it,
I think, is that so if I'm on the tube train,
and if I was to see, like, I don't know, a man,
and this guy was a man, he's probably a bit older than me,
not a small guy, just a normal-sized guy.
In normal times, if in normal times if i
had seen that person be super aggressive to someone who was smaller than him or or a woman
or whatever or a child i would you know me i'm i'm i'm i would 100 step in i wouldn't be awkward
about it i would just go over and say what you're doing but it was quite weird because it didn't get
to this stage because he inevitably got off
the next stop and just went to the next carriage and walked off but it's it's kind of interesting
how you would deal with it because of the of the social distancing thing now right yeah yeah you
wouldn't feel like you yeah i think yeah you'd have to sort of go look this is just you know
i'd be getting whatever he had anyway so so let's roll that down, shall we?
Not just for him, but for the victim of it as well, right?
They don't want another person in their space.
Do you remember there was that guy who
spat
in the face of that woman who died
at Victoria Station a little while ago
and there was no kind of corporate
protection for her or even acknowledgement
that there was even a connection to what she'd
experienced. It's very hard to prove that sort of thing but still it's it's uh it's it was
a really really sad tale so what i did is i normally just i mean you know what london is a
lot i mean like i say if it got out of hand i would obviously step in but normally you know
you're a londoner right so you just let you just ignore people and they go away you get it happens
all the time for those who don't know people get on the tube and they ask for money shouting yeah just shouting but in this instance when i got off um the stop i need to
get off i actually went to the information bit said by the way there's a guy on the tube i just
got off of who's like properly intimidating people hassling them screaming at them and you might want
to have a look at it because it's like a public safety thing right uh and um they said they were
they were going to see so i basically grasped pete
i grasped someone up you're gonna need to be in public protection you're gonna have to be in
some kind of witness protection program now yeah i'm just worried about going home again
the big man is he won't notice me because i had a mask on see there's the irony
exactly well you get away with somebody so many more crimes now the um uh i'll i'll warn up you on that one there was a it's not really my
story but um self-care club is a show that's to kind of produce you listen to it or wherever you
get self-care club and they were doing um goat yoga uh a kind of way to relax yeah relax and
kick back with some goats.
And they talked to this woman who was basically running the thing.
And off microphone, she basically was this underground pedo cave truther
talking about all the earthquakes we've been having lately
is actually going on,
blowing up all the underground caves of the paedophiles.
Oh, my God.
That's unbelievable.
It's rare that you see, you occasionally see it,
you see people touching it on Facebook and you sort of go,
right, maybe you've got a vested interest in not wearing masks
and stuff like that.
Maybe you own a bar or a pub or a night spot
and you kind of want your life to continue as it was but when you sort of hear
people being really like q anon level crazy you sort of go wow i've never i've never actually
experienced someone in in the wild actually um espousing these views or spouting these views
at least so how did it come about how did they kind of react to that stuff i think well i mean to be honest i think you're in a you're in a field with a lot
of gods anyway um so maybe you know you're on an organ situation there's a um there's a guy i won't
name him because it'd be unfair but he's kind of tangentially related to my wife's friend right
and he's he's kind of this guy who does he's always been a guy
who kind of does odd stuff anyway like he'll jump in his car and drive across the country and
yeah on a whim and he he went through a phase of just only eating meat right and this is before
all this kind of trump stuff came along and this q and on stuff came along. But if I'm not being unfair to him,
I'm not going to name the guy,
but if I'm not being unfair to him,
I hope you understand what I mean when I say
his mind might well have been fertile ground
for this stuff, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And I kind of tangentially know him,
so I followed him on Instagram for a while.
But I ended up stopping a while back
because it was a bit of a clean out
of all the people I was following
and he just didn't survive the cut,
which I'm sure would be devastating to know.
But anyway,
I went back and looked at his,
his page because I think I saw him liking someone else's photo and I clicked
on him and he has gone like properly full onto it now.
And the thing you and I always joke about Pete,
he,
his most recent Instagram post is just the truth about 9-11
they don't want you to know and his first line right is fact jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams
right and it's like it's like baby's first uh conspiracy theory isn't it really
yeah it's it's a stepping stone it's a stepping stone for him's a stepping stone for him. And so he's doing all this QAnon stuff.
He's talking about do all your own research.
Wake up.
Do your own research.
Just look at someone else's YouTube video.
Do your own research.
Learn your history, by which I mean not the history I teach you in schools.
And then it goes full on.
It goes, this isn't about politics.
This is a fight for the children. It's like, oh, here we go. Here we go. So he it goes full on it goes this isn't about politics this is a fight for the children it's like here we go here we go so he's gone like full on so isn't it interesting though
the the idea that you know if you're gonna you can make i mean one person can just believe
whatever right if one person is worked that way then whatever but isn't it fascinating and also
a little bit terrifying how everyone who believes in this stuff
kind of agrees just to believe it.
What I'm trying to say is it's not like they've all been radicalized
at the same time in one movement.
People have chosen in bits and pieces to kind of all gravitate
towards this thing.
I find it absolutely terrifying what the human mind is capable of believing.
And it's very, very difficult to get them out of it. If if you watch that there was a really good video about q and on the financial
times website which one of our mates shared with us and i think you were on the thread as well
and it had an interview in it with a guy who was now an expert in cultish behavior and the reason
he's an expert in cultish behavior is because he's got some PhD about psychology from a good university.
But in his teenage years, he was indoctrinated into a cult.
And he spent three or four years in that cult.
And then he was deprogrammed and de-radicalized.
And he started his own journey about how it happens.
And he talked a lot about how to behave around people that that believe this stuff
and what you need to do is it was it was fascinating but also absolutely terrifying because
apparently the most natural reaction if it was say someone you knew or a friend is obviously just to
cut them out of your friendship circle right well i don't want to talk about going wrong because
they're fucking mad right apparently that's the last thing you want to be doing because
yeah they then just see that as further evidence.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chilling. And then you get the President of the United States
not taking an opportunity to denounce it
live on TV and it's like, what is going on, man?
It's, oh jeez, I mean
through the looking glass, we've spoken
at length about it before, but
anyway, we'll take a short break.
We're going to get to your, presumably,
your just as fertile ground on the emails.
Hello, Luke and Pete Shaw, if you want to get in touch.
We'll be back in a minute for more of your dispensers.
Dispatchers. Probably should have said dispatchers.
Big dollars with you on the Luke and Pete Shaw dispensers.
Your dispensaries.
Yeah, if you want to get to hellotlookpinshore.com as discussed.
What have we got in the emails,
Lucky Mo? I just want to say that if you believe
in QAnon, then
email it and let us know why,
because I'll be interested to hear people's input
on it. And I'll also be interested in where
people draw the line on conspiracy theories. I mean, what
point do you think, oh, that's an
acceptable one and that one isn't? Someone who's done
a really interesting study about the gateway kind of conspiracies that get people onto the you know
for want of a better phrase the harder stuff um it's all pretty interesting stuff anyway let's
get back to more safe ground with an email from tom who wants to tell us about stealing alcohol
from his job oh nice like this he says uh guys. Your chat regarding general work-related mischief reminded me of a little scheme
that me and a friend had while working at a famous hotel chain.
And I think this is reference to the story I told about a friend of mine
who used to buy a sausage roll at the start of each shift at a supermarket
and keep the receipt.
And then the rest of the day, he could eat as many sausage rolls as he liked
because if anyone questioned him, he always had the receipt, right?
Yeah, I like that one.
Tom goes on to say, as guests checked in to this hotel,
they received a drinks voucher, which could be redeemed at the bar.
This could be for a soft drink or an alcoholic drink.
So a colleague and I devised a scheme to ensure we could get pissed on shift
at the expense of the hotel.
When a guest redeemed their drink, we would write down what it was on the back of the vouch when a guest redeemed their drink we would write down
what it was on the back of the voucher so it could be added to the system and accounted for in the
stock take but here's the beauty of the scheme when guests ask for a coke or lemonade for their
free drink we would write on the voucher rum and coke or vodka and lemonade and these discreetly
enjoy our beverage.
We were never caught doing this despite some suspicious behaviour whenever several soft drink ordering children had arrived that day.
Long may the schemers prosper.
All the best, Tom.
Look, I think if you're on what was usually close to living wage,
possibly even less, I think you are allowed to take as many liberties as you like quite frankly
especially in a hotel should you be getting pissed at work it depends on how safe you could be when
you've imbibed alcohol one might suggest i would suggest that as long as nobody tried to talk to me
i could get away with it but because i'm a good drunk, but I think that a lot of people are a little bit too clumsy
when they're pissed.
So I'm not confident of anything.
I'd be a better worker.
I think you are talking absolute shit.
When I remember once I was in a pub with you,
we went to a few bars, and you got pissed,
not even that pissed, you drew um a fake tattoo of the red hot chili
peppers logo on yourself for no reason so people look at that's a red flag mate people are gonna
see that you can't what do you mean they probably just think that guy really loves the chili wellies
yeah maybe um i i think also if you're gonna i do have sympathy with the
idea that if you're working behind a bar it's an occupational hazard right yeah like if you work in
a kitchen speed and cork in if you're gonna be a delivery driver you're gonna get caught in traffic
this is how it goes it's an occupational hazard so i don't necessarily blame them for that i
remember when i worked at a hotel bar once at uni for a while you had to stay behind
the bar until the last resident went to bed oh no so sometimes it could be at 6 a.m jeez that is
miserable but i guess if you're on shift you're on shift you know they can't make you work more
hours than than necessary but it does seem i never understood people who just like to you know be a
hotel bar fly unless you can't sleep.
I don't know,
man.
I just never going back to the hotel and then hitting the bar just has very
little kind of a lure for me.
Maybe as an older man,
I'll,
I'll get into that.
That,
that kind of,
I think it's worse if you're an older reading as I call it.
Well,
I don't know.
I just,
I just,
I just,
I just can't be,
can't be bothered with it.
The thing is,
I do understand that if, if I'm away with work or whatever,
on my own, in a city, say, I don't know, think of it,
I'm in Marrakesh, right?
I don't know why.
Where's that?
Why is that?
Why have you said Marrakesh?
Well, it just seems like quite a glamorous location, right?
Are you doing import, export and spices?
What's going on here?
Yeah, that's what I'm doing.
I'm staying in a hotel, and I understand the glamour
of having a drink in a hotel bar, seeing the world go by,
lots of people from lots of different nationalities
coming and going, interesting people watching.
I understand the glamour of that, but I also accept
that there's nothing glamorous about me, right?
So I'm not some kind of James you know james bond type character people
are just gonna think who's that weird guy sat on his looking at me yeah looking at me so i kind of
see both sides of it maybe if you go along with the book you can kind of get away with it but
it's not uh it's not ideal yeah i think that's fair you got any emails there mate i have yeah
um dom oh dom you've really made my day. Just following on from the quick mention of the overstuffed Horniman walrus.
Remember that walrus that was stuffed pre the person knowing what a walrus looked like?
So it was absolutely massive and it's in the Horniman Museum and it looks amazingly humorous.
I thought you'd appreciate the seemingly overarmed monkey that they have there too.
And Dom has appended a picture of uh said monkey um the thing is right dom has um appended the picture of not a monkey but a
gibbon uh that is actually a correctly stuffed uh and under-armed if anything uh gibbon gibbons have
very very long arms with three kind of,
like an elongated hand.
So it looks like it's got two different elbows.
So Dom, you're in for a treat, mate.
If you've never seen a Gibbon before, type it into Google,
enjoy the YouTube results that come up.
You know when someone's like never read a book that's like your favourite book
and you go, you're in for a fucking treat.
Or your favourite film or your favourite album or something.
Yeah, if you've never seen a Gibbon before
and you've never seen a Gibbon bipedally moving through the earth
and through the world, just check it out because you're in for a treat, mate.
But the picture that you've appended is a picture of a Gibbon
and it looks like a healthy little white chick Gibbon.
I'd love to be there
when he sees it
for the first time.
Shit!
He's going to lose his mind.
He's going to lose his mind.
Give us a review
next week, Dom.
Have a look at the gibbons.
Give us a review.
Marks out of 10.
Lovely old job.
And if you,
once you've enjoyed that,
perhaps try a rhino next
because they're very hard
to describe a rhino.
Yeah, I guess so.
But surely you will have seen a rhino before.
Well, it's what they say about the...
I can't remember what they say.
It's like, I think there's a saying about a rhino, isn't there?
Like, when there's a rhino in the room,
it's hard to describe it,
but you know it's a fucking rhino in the room, right?
I would describe it as like a hippo with battle cap armor on.
Yeah.
A kind of war-ready hippo.
Yeah.
There's also a weird thing at the Hornet Museum called,
I think they just call it the Merman or something,
where it originates in, I want to say it's purported to originate in japan
and it's 1400 years old but it's actually a kind of fake thing exhibited in america by
pt barnum you know the old circus guy and it's a it's a big fish basically with
the head and shoulders of some kind of primate.
Oh, right, okay.
And they kind of made it out to be this actual merman skeleton, basically.
And that's on display at the Horniman as well.
So, listen, if that e-mailer sees that, he is going to lose his shit.
There was one in there.
There was a mermaid in Hartlepool's museum back in the day.
That's the only exhibit I can bloody remember.
Such a rich history of shipbuilding and stuff like that.
And all I can remember is a recessed glass box with ropes in them,
different kinds of rope knots, and a mermaid's skeleton.
That's all I can remember.
In many ways, that is the history of Hartlepool, right?
It is, yeah, yeah is yeah yeah yeah and you
know we probably i imagine there's a lot of pictures of the um famous heartlepool monkey
that is actually a given so we was that a given as well i imagine it's probably a chimp personally
yeah that would look more like a human man but chimp hangers hasn't got the same um
ring no no and and if you did try and hang,
you'd have to bind the hands and legs of the primate.
But what would you do if it was a monkey and it had like a prehensile tail?
How would you sort of keep that from grabbing the rope
and saving itself?
I mean, the monkey likes a rope.
It likes a rope.
It famously likes a rope.
Yeah, it's just like
when alan partridge when he's at the owl sanctuary in there you're sentenced to be hung by the neck
and no hovering um death by fire and score is the answer here and on that note people are going to
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