The Luke and Pete Show - Insanity or incontinence

Episode Date: April 8, 2024

Luke revisits more call centre nostalgia and raves about the magic of Teenage Mutant Turtles. Plus Pete finds out that Lukey’s a big ol’ nerd who’s eagerly been awaiting the final books of the Game of Thrones series for a whopping 13 years!Elsewhere, Luke says Pete should go into stand up comedy and is certain that all he’d need to do to find success is wet himself on stage.Want to get in touch with the show? Email: [e-mail] or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow. Follow us @thelukeandpeteshow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the Look of Pete Troy, it is Monday the 8th of April, I'm Pete Donaldson and I'm joined by Mr. Lukey, Lukey Moore. I, Lukey Moore, have to apologise to our very good friend. Well, alright, okay. That's fine. What would you like me to apologise to you about? Right, I've got, hang on. Alright, get your list out. Get your list out, get your little book out. Cut my folder. No, get your list out okay get your list out get your

little folder no you carry on yeah um i would like to apologize to um john hudson who we spoke about um a couple of weeks ago john hudson sent me a whatsapp sound he was loving it he was like well so he heard us talk about the fencing. Um, and I, and he basically texted me saying, thanks for mentioning, um, thanks for mentioning the old, uh, the old,

the old, um, fencing. I think it's important that it's out there. Um, and I texted back saying, John, whenever I see bad fencing,

bad swordsmanship in films, I think of you. Right. Yeah. And what I meant to say was, I think of you because it must really meant to say was I think of you because it must really annoy you

because you're a professional right but what came out was every time I see somebody bad at fencing I think of you because you're bad at fencing you know when you're

a bit tired and you write something and then you're like about an hour later you're like I don't think that looked right I don't think that

sounded right that must happen to you like every day though right but yeah but even if I've said something right I'm like did that full stop did that full stop um you know did that pregnant part did is it is it a microaggression as they say it was that full stop a microaggression so i just worry about um things constantly uh it eats me alive it really does but i loved it when um john messaged me because he said thanks very much for the big

shout out um it's huge for my brand and when the serious helicopter takes off we all fly together like it like it yeah anyway he's a good lad john you can't you can't keep a good man down he's coming over in june as well for the um for the baseball for the mlb oh are they doing like a mlb the show here i think are they doing an extra MLB the show here? Are they doing an extra... Yeah, I think they're doing it at the London Stadium normally, don't they? What? Is that not just too... Oh, the London Stadium.

I guess it's quite wide. Would you not need like a wider purpose-built kind of baseball thing for it to... And nets as well. You need to put nets up, wouldn't you? God, I didn't know you were such an expert. Well, I'm just saying, it's wider, isn't it? It's like a big triangle. You'd have to sort of start in one corner and god

the London Stadium it doesn't help itself does it ladies and gentlemen before we open up the London Stadium for this Major League Baseball series of games

I've got to welcome our project manager director and expert Pete Donaldson Peter any thoughts nets put loads of nets is it wide enough

nets we need loads of nets and we need yeah it just needs to be a wider situation yeah and just because you carry a baseball Wide enough. Nets. We need loads of nets and we need, yeah, it just needs to be a wider situation, yeah. And just because you carry a baseball bat around

Leon C doesn't make you a baseball expert. I'm the Casey Jones of Southend. Casey Jones was hockey though, wasn't he? He had loads of stuff. He had cricket bats,

he had baseball bats, he had all kinds of stuff. He basically, he's sort of like a garbage wrestler, I suppose. Yeah, I'm actually quite surprised

that Casey Jones hasn't been given a WWE contract at some point well I imagine I think the Turtles probably got involved with WCW

I remember Robocop was best friends with Sting I remember that I watched the recent Turtles animation movie on the plane

back from the US oh right okay is it 3D is it 3D is it cell based how does it kindD? Is it cell-based? How does it kind of fit together? So it's like a... Have you seen...

Is it mixed live action? No. It's called Mutant Mayhem. It's kind of like... Have you seen Into the Spider-Verse? Yes. Okay. Oh, it's like that?

Yeah, kind of like that. I would have loved that when I was a kid. I love the Ninja Turtles. Yeah. All right. Do you think the guys who created the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

made a load of money erm yes god good god yes they must have done right I can't remember their names now

erm I was looking at Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird apparently Peter Laird yeah erm yeah of course they did it would have been

an absolute killing I mean they were everywhere on everything they must have like generational erm money they must have like money uh money they must have like money

to like proper like private island money for that yeah this is crazy listen to this i've got it here right the franchise in terms of merchandise alone the franchise generated merchandise sales of 175 million dollars in 1988 350 million dollars in 1989 and 650 million in 1990 by 1994 it was the world's most merchandisable franchise having generated a total revenue of six billion dollars in merchandise sales alone i think that answers my question yeah and that was merchandise then you had the films and you had the you know comics and good god kevin eastman at the time looked like such a comic book guy he just looked like he looked like the kind of i don't know he just like such a sleazy dude like and uh and he's obviously he's still knocking about still doing his thing but i mean he's never going to have um he's never going to scale those heights

again but anyway the movies the movie's pretty i actually thought the movie was pretty good and the caveat being that i would say that who are the baddies? I was on a plane Shredder I don't want to give it away You don't want to give away the plot of some Turtles movie that no one's got to watch

Who are the Where's your titles? Where's gotta get your titles? Was anyone talking like that? And we'll know I'll get you on board by telling you the following things The voice actors in the movie

contain is the following things. Yeah. The voice actors in the movie contain, is the following people. Hannibal Buress. That's Michelangelo all day. No, he's not. He's not. He's not. He's not.

Is he one of the turtles? No, no, he's not. He's not one of the turtles? He plays the Genghis frog. Genghis frog. Oi, listen. Ice Cube does a voice. Paul Rudd does a voice.

Jackie Chan is... Paul Rudd is Raphael. Paul Rudd is Michelangelo then. No? No. Who's playing Michelangelo then? None of the titles are famous voices. Oh, because that would be too expensive.

Exactly. Stunt castings, right. I see. So Jackie Chan's Splinter, which is good. But listen. That seems weird. Rocksteady. Rocksteady. Oh, yeah, right? Yeah, so Jackie Chan's Splinter, which is good. But listen, Rocksteady... Oh, yeah, yeah, I guess so, yeah. Rocksteady is voiced by John Cena. And Bebop is voiced by Seth Rogen.

Yeah, but they're not going to have thick New York accents like they had, though, did they? Can I also interest you, Pete? Something that will really tip you over the edge and make you really, really happy is that Mr Beast also voices a character in that

that's a shame isn't it one for the kids isn't it one for the kids isn't it just let him have that for crying out loud anyway I enjoyed it I think Kung Fu Panda is back

and I think one of those lads who plays football is voicing one of the characters you know those are they the F5 tricksters or something you know those two lads those two Essex boys the F2 freestylers the F2 freestylers one of the F2 freestylers is voicing one of the characters. You know those, are they the F5 tricksters or something? You know those two, those two Essex boys.

The F2 Freestylers. The F2 Freestylers. One of the F2 Freestylers is voicing someone in Kung Fu Panda 5 or whatever. It's four. It's number four. And it gets me because it's like, are they still,

are they still kicking a ball? Yes, they are. Because they had a falling out, didn't they, quite famously, hilariously. Did they? I can't remember whose side I was on, but I watched a YouTube video about it.

That's the thing about YouTube, it is like shit off a shovel that knowledge. It just, it hits you hard and then it just absolutely skanks off. It's just like,

I've no idea. Oh, Mr Beast is in that as well. He's in that as well, is he? And he's got the same surname as you. I didn't know he was called Jimmy Donaldson.

Yeah, Donaldson, yeah. God, it's annoying for you to have a much more successful online Donaldson than you. There's so many online, there's so many more successful Donaldsons. Or Neil Donaldson, the Reading player. Yeah, from back in the day more successful online Donaldson than you. There's so many online, there's so many more successful Donaldson's. O'Neill Donaldson,

the Reading player. Yeah. Stewie Donaldson. Stewie Donaldson, the, the, the head of a vigilante group in Hartlepool. Anyway,

Peter, I wanted to bring in a couple of emails on today's show, because I feel like we always get to the end and we never have time for them. So I was going to bring a couple of in, in based around my calls, working in a call center story from a week or two ago. Because I never know if I should use people's full names on this. I'm just going to use the first name because I think these people are still working in the industry. So I don't want to cause them any trouble.

But Neil's been in touch saying, Hi Luke and Pete, listening to Luke's Lloyd TSB woes unlocked a core memory for me. I was in a call center for an office supplies depot in the early 2000s. And every three months, we had a review in which the team leader would randomly play three calls from that period of all the hundreds of calls she could randomly click on.

And you had to listen to the three with her and they'd give you a mark, right? Which never happened to me. I'm not sure if the technology properly existed in that call centre then, but anyway. So Neil says, number one, it was a customer complaint and I surprised myself with how well I handled it and my team leader gave me an A.

Call two was an outgoing call, usually when you get back to a customer with an answer to a query, but not this one. I was calling my best mate Dave to arrange a night out and see if he could get any weed. Rating D. So he

had to sort of make up these scenarios or? No, he's obviously just using the phone to call this mate. Right. And it's registered as a call and she's just chosen it as random to review it. That's not even a D. That's like a...

I think D's the worst you can get. It must be. Why is that ungraded? You're literally just ringing up for a night out on some weed. Well, Neil says, luckily I used to get my team leader weed so she didn't kick off at all.

Oh, right. Okay, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she told me not to use the phone again for personal reasons. Call three was an incoming one. Good. I thought as no mates had my direct line, it'll be fine.

However, my then brand new girlfriend and now wife I have access to called me. And it went from you've left your wallet here to about when I'd see her next and then what I'd do to her sexually. Yes, good stuff. Team leader Slit deserved an A but gave me another D two D's someone got a D two D's

but had to retrain had to retrain what's the retraining sexually or you know drug abuse I left two weeks later

he says cheers guys Neil more time for your hobbies by the sounds of things that's kind of so we used to like transfer calls to our mates

instead of other departments and do that kind of thing because we were just young and bored and didn't respect it and all that kind of stuff. But we didn't ever have, like, detail of that length. You never had, like, a snoop. You never had someone sort of sitting down with a car and saying, right, how could that have gone better? Yeah, exactly.

How could... On radio, you used to get, like, snoops that have gone better? Yeah, exactly. How could get, when you see it on radio, you used to get like snoops every couple of months and what I would have done there. Well, like a mystery shopper kind of thing.

Yeah, they'd basically take a short random and sort of go, right, let's listen to this one and you'd be like, ah,

fuck, that was my hungover show. That was the Hobgoblin show. That was the Hobgoblin show and yeah, they'd sit down and you'd do it and you'd fluff all your lines and mess it all up and yeah they'd sit down and you'd do it and you'd fluff

all your lines and mess it all up and then they'd go right so how could we have done that better it's like well don't do any of that that's crap though

when you're making radio I fucking hate that shit it's supposed to be a creative endeavour well yeah but it is but you've still got to stick to the

it's still just market trader radio isn't it you're selling something you're selling the music or selling a product or selling the other parts of the station

you know there's no so you want to be getting the other parts of the station. You know, there's no... So you want to be getting the basic stuff right. So that's what, like, when we do the Rambo and you want to be, like, getting the fucking basic stuff right. Yeah, I suppose I get that. I think for us it was... You know, they used to... I don't know if they still do,

but they used to call centres like the modern workhouses, right? The workhouses of, like, the 21st century or whatever. Because the way they used to monitor us is they used to just check how long you were sitting at your desk and they could check the number of calls you dealt with. Piss off. Yeah.

So you'd be timed to the minute for your lunch break. And if it was a particularly quiet period, they would give you other work to do, like admin work, while your earpiece was in. So the earpiece thing, it used to be quite anxiety-inducing because you didn't get a choice whether to answer the phone like it just used to go ding ding and then someone would be there that's so quite invasive yeah massively

i don't know man you couldn't even like decide how long it took you to answer it or whatever but anyway um chris has also been in touch saying um hi guys um given that i'm the self-nominated union rep for the luke and peter community and may or may not work for an organization that luke used to work for i was dismayed to hear that luke had to do two weeks unpaid training in response to a pretty minor incident involving transfer of customers it got me wondering though whether luke had ever partaken in the game that always used to be played on weekends when management was scarcely about. The aim of the game was simple.

There was a word of the day. Let's say today's word is carrot. Every call hand had to fit that word into as many calls as possible and the one with the highest or most creative won that round of Saturday games. No prizes on offer. Just the delight of telling Mrs. Harding that she'll receive her replacement credit carrot

within 10 working days. Carrot card. Yeah. So we used to do little challenges to each other. I remember my mate challenged me

to, because someone's card wasn't working, my mate challenged me to ask the customer if they'd ever been past a secret military facility which could have

wiped the card. And the guy who had the line, he was already quite pissed off because he was in the shop and his card wasn't working. You can imagine he was raging. I always remember he screamed at me, how would I know if it's a military facility, if it's fucking secret? Imagine being in the shop while he's doing all that. I also remember um during the um during

that period i worked there leading up to christmas and it was always a tense time because there was a ballot for who had to work like christmas eve and new year's day and stuff yeah right and uh this guy i used to work with who will remain nameless he's still a friend of mine it was a very volatile quite emotionally led fella just by total just by total coincidence right he got he got drawn out the ballot for christmas eve and new year's eve right and he was fuming right absolutely fuming you can't be angry at fit you can't be angry at chance can you and i remember he was so angry right that he had a little he was in like a little room off the side of the main office right sounds like he does it sounds like he he does richly deserve that by being quite spiky i just remember on three it

was like three others in there in that little room with him and i remember when i used to leave him a lift home right and i remember going to get him at the end of the day on that day that fateful day that he had been given all the uh bad news and he had spent the afternoon with a on with dry white pens on the massive whiteboard drawing a huge cartoon of a set of scales a load of money on one side of the scales and him dead on the other scale saying like like, like an homage, like Metallica's had justice for all. And underneath it was like, their money tips the scales again

kind of thing. He took it really badly. It had like a cast of a devil in the background. It was pretty special. Does that sound like it's, does that sound like he was on the edge of something,

or was he just being a silly sausage? He's doing fine now. He's doing fine now? Yeah, he's doing fine. I think it was kind of before the internet properly kicked off. So he probably couldn't find like-minded individuals to go and cause an atrocity.

So he just drew a sign from the whiteboard. Simpler times. Simpler times. Just express yourself on a whiteboard for crying out loud. Get out of your system. Get out of your system. That'll of your system that'll be wiped down as soon as you leave draw a phallus

yeah okie dokie and enjoy your Christmas let's have a break when we come back we'll do some more of this shall we welcome back to the Luke and Pete show

and my name is Pete Donaldson I'm joined by Lukey Moore for another half another I'm going to call it a tight tenner

a tight ten a tight ten uh for more luke and pete short action oh dear if you have to um sorry carry you have to go and do like a tight 10 minutes someone said to you that you have to go and do like a tight 10 minute stand-up show a week on friday to a 200-seat comedy club. Awful. How would you go about it? I would feign death. No, you have to do it. No, don't. I reckon you could do really well by being, like, properly insane. Yeah.

I mean, begin, like, kind of... Wet yourself. Come in. I mean, is that insanity? That's just incontinence, isn't it, really? Or is it? There are very few things that you can sort of do on stage now can't do anything

on stage but it wouldn't be sort of people would be like oh dear but I think if you went up there dressed in the more

outrageous of the garb you've got access to yeah like chiseled your little finger off and then wet yourself yeah I think I think chiseling

the little finger would be I mean that would be a strong start wouldn't it people would be people would give that five stars

get a lot of press uncompromising uncompromising talent uncompromising specifically to his own digit he's got yeah he's probably got

ten more gigs left in him I'll tell you what would be an amazing topper to that it's like people would be like people would be like

oh yeah it's amazing the special effects on that how he's able to do that and then they come and see you the next week and you just had nine fingers yeah

or I just had one finger and I'd had a busy week I'd done the comedy star yeah that's what he does in and I had the chisel in my mouth that's what he does in the banshees

of In the Sherin isn't it oh yeah he pops his fingers off don't he fucking oh and you're spoiling them that's an old film

yeah that's an old film yeah that's an old film oh speaking of your speaking of your

spoilers there was House of the Dragons back in a couple of weeks isn't it

is that the second season of yeah second season did people

watch the first one I did I enjoyed it I did and I enjoyed

it I'm a nerd for it though is it as good as Game of Thrones

is it worth flirting with Game of Thrones the good as Game of Thrones? Is it worth flirting with? Game of Thrones, the thing is with Game of Thrones is that it got panned the way it ended. And then when I was, when my son was really young

and I was just up all the time, I watched, I needed to watch something I couldn't really think about too much. And I re-watched Game of Thrones. And upon re-watch, I didn't think the ending was actually that bad. I didn thrones and upon re-watch i didn't think the ending was actually that but i think it was good i think it was that bad no and so i think people

were so hyped for it and the same thing i'm not saying it's as good as the ending to some of these shows but the principle is that when people fall in love with a tv show nothing's going to satisfy them no i remember like people caning the sopranos ending and it's a it's a it's a brilliant fucking ending it's a legendary ending yeah yeah but at the time people were fuming well it it kick-started um journey's journey back to the top of the charts an unintended consequence i would say yeah i i would say that like watching has he finished the book yet because didn't he sort of you hadn't finished the book and he basically told the producers where it was going to go roughly what game of thrones yeah but he's got two he's got two volumes um still to come right and he's still and is he

cracking on with them is the producer is the publisher tapping their watch well i'll tell you what's ridiculous about it is that so there's two more books to come two so the whole series is called a song of ice and fire to so the whole series is called a song of ice and fire right and the first book is called a game of thrones which then the tv show took its name from yeah and the most recent to come out is a dance with dragons which came out in 2011 and i read it at the time yeah and he was like oh yeah the winds of winter which is the next one's coming out soon or or whatever. Yeah. And it's still not out. So we're talking 13 years later, it's still not out. It's like Duke Nukem Forever.

Forever waiting. Well, I'm confusing the name there, right? Exactly. It's going to be forever waiting. So he's still not done. But presumably because the ending on the TV version, the TV version, the TV adaptation, was roundly panned. Is he going to change um the but a dance with dragons

ends from my memory probably around the fifth season of right the show and there's eight seasons so it's way outstripped it and it's way simplified it as well obviously which you'd expect it's an epic fantasy series but people are fuming because he's done so much other stuff in between what do you mean like uh masks singing and stuff what do you mean no he's like he's he's basically gone and done stuff which perhaps fantasy nerds and fans who you know are particular about this kind of thing don't deem as important. So for example, he's published one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten other works since he did A Dance With Dragons.

What kind of stuff? What's he been up to? What kind of stuff? Fantasy stuff? Yeah, he's done stuff like he's gone and written like a history of the House Targaryen and a compilation of different short stories and all that kind of thing.

He's done some prequel stuff as well, I think. So people are fuming because it looks like he's just mucking about. Get back on the treadmill. Get back on the grind. That's a really interesting idea, isn't it? Because what happens at some point is that you make something you create something so successful it's like an unwritten rule where it just becomes the property of the public rather than you yeah yeah like you he's well within his rights isn't he in principle

to say i'll do what i fucking want i'll do what i fucking want yeah but people don't accept that he's a pariah for saying that or for doing that um and he's an older guy as well so maybe he feels like he's not able to write as much or he has to write slightly different things because the narratives are tough he did say that he's got um he's got um like stuff locked away that if he dies that people can finish it on his behalf okay and i don't think it's a coincidence that the quality of the tv show went downhill to an extent i think it's been exaggerated how much it went downhill but it did go downhill to an extent. Once they didn't have their texts behind it.

Once Benioff and Weiss, who I think are both hacks, really, I think, didn't have that to lean on as much. But anyway, speaking of that, speaking of anthologies and stuff, there's a new Alien film coming, isn't there? Is there?

Yeah. I'm completely, those things leave me quite cold. I thought you were an alien guy. I was back in the day, but only because of the translated through line from the video game Darkseid through the H.R. Giger drawings.

Yeah, okay. Which, if you look at it nowadays, you sort of go, God, I mean, that looks... That has the greasy, otherworldly aspects of like an artificial intelligence picture, like a mid-journey sort of greasy, kind of grey, kind of like sweaty cells that are kind of growing,

like kind of like weird futurist organism kind of stuff that an AI could create. So I think an AI could probably make H.R. Giggs stuff quite easily. Which is sad. Which is sad. It is very sad. No way.

But this new movie is called Alien Romulus, and it's set between alien and aliens. Is Scott involved? He is involved, but he's not directing. He's producing. I mean, he's old now, Ridley Scott, you've got to remember. Yeah. I mean, Ridley Scott, right? So he's directed the film fairly recently,'ve got to remember yeah I mean Ridley Scott right

so he's directed the film fairly recently hasn't he what did he do recently oh he did Napoleon didn't he oh did he right there's a new Gladiator film coming out the thing about films they do take a very very long time

he's 86 years old is he yeah good god wow yeah there's these kind of auteur video game developers who are like similar kind of Rid's these kind of um auto um video game uh developers who were like similar kind of ridley scott kind of characters um films nowadays they take you know four years like for

you know four or five years to to get off the ground and get and get done yeah um video games these days at that similar triple a yeah you know 100, 100 million price kind of tag, they take like 10 years. Like these games are just, you're getting one title per generation of video game. And there's a lot of these kind of like, these celebrated directors of video games, you know, head of studio guys,

who are basically saying, I've probably got one more game in me and I'm 60. Do you know what I mean? It's kind of like, it's mad that these things take such a long time and we demand so much from our creators that they've probably only got five stellar AAA games in them in their entire lifetime. The gaming industry takes more money than Hollywood now, doesn't it?

It probably does, yeah. It probably spends a lot more on marketing. It's certainly as big at least, right? Yeah. yeah i mean i think the delivery system is probably different as well it's easy to get get into people's homes yeah definitely this this new i mean the obviously the most recent movies in the alien kind of franchise were um prometheus and then covenant right which were both quite flawed but also at the same time quite enjoyable to watch just because you grew up in that kind of world. I mean, it was a very impressionable age for me

to be watching those alien movies, and I really loved them. So I kind of will forgive them a lot. But this one's set in a slightly different timeline. It looks a little bit more gritty. The teaser trailer makes it look a lot more back to basics. Okay. But it's not out till August,

so it's one to get excited about, but not watch just yet. And just finally, while we're on this subject, have you seen Alex Garland's got a new movie coming out as well? No. Remind me who Alex Garland's is?

Ex Machina. Okay, yeah. And he did Annihilation as well, which is brilliant. He also did, he wrote 28 Days Later and Sunshine, and he's got a new movie out called Civil War,

which looks absolutely fan-fucking-tastic. And that's out in, I think, in maybe a week or two's time. So that'll be interesting. So there's a lot of good stuff to be excited about. I've given up watching films after watching about half an hour of Roadhouse with Ginger and Hull. It's done really well, though, hasn't it? You see how well it's done? Has it done really well? I mean and Hull. It's done really well though, hasn't it? You see how well it's done?

Has it done really well? I mean, I guess it will have done really well because I mean, it is for fucking... Broken a lot of Prime video records,

I think. Is that a thing? Is that a big thing? Is that a big thing? Because they're claiming 50 million streams like across two weeks or something.

I could see that. I could see that. But they put little adverts at the start don't they old Amazon Prime these days yeah

yeah I mean the thing about that film is that it seems that Gyllenhaal he's a bit of a talent you know he's certainly got

the hot bod and they've got the setting it's proper like 80s cheese ball stuff pastiche stuff where you know

it's all black and white and all of the baddies ride motorbikes and all that shit. It's a real sort of 80s kind of vibe to it. But the thing about it is it wouldn't have taken much to improve the script a little bit. It just wouldn't have taken much to make it 100% better. That's the most disappointing thing. All that time and all, you know... Who wrote it? I don't know. It sounds like it's been written by Colin McGregor, who's in it.

It's that kind of... It's that simple. He's been doing some funny interviews, hasn't he? Let's not get into that. I mean, I don't want to cast aspersions, and I've got to be careful what I say, obviously. I think he might have a problem. Yeah, if you've ever flirted with that sort of stuff,

you can see the signs. I think that's fair to say. To me, I think Gyllenhaal's brilliant. I'm a big fan of his generally. I don't really understand what the point of making this movie was. Roadhouse! I also think that... I can see why Gyllenhaal agreed to it, though. Because if you re-watch the original Roadhouse, which also think that I can see why Gillian Hall agreed to it though because if you

re-watch the original Roadhouse which came out in the late 80s, it's actually really watchable and Patrick Swayze is surprisingly charisma free in it. Like, if you watch Patrick Swayze movies back now, it feels a bit like in the late 80s everyone was having a fever dream because he's absolutely

like, he just looks so unbankable. He's got no presence at all. So I can see why Gyllenhaal probably watched that back and thought, yeah, I could do that.

Yeah, he's kind of, he's got like ravishing Rick Rood's body, very tall, very rangy, very like oily, old Swayze.

But yeah, I never really got the whole, he was in Donnie Darko with Gyllenhaal, wasn't he? Old Swayze, wasn't he? He was, yeah, Swayze. Didn't he play like a...

Teacher, wasn't he? Pedophile teacher, maybe? Pedophile teacher, yeah. That's a brilliant fucking movie. Nor Wilde from ER was in it. You never see Nor Wilde. You never see the cast of ER around anymore. When you watch Donnie...

Yeah, it's true, actually. That was massive as well. When you watch Donnie Darko back, it's one of those movies. I mean, it's over 20 years old now. Yeah. And it's still actually that was massive as well when you watch Donnie Darko back it's one of those movies I mean it's over 20 years old now yeah and it's still brilliant yeah

it was around it was around this time like Fight Club wasn't it it was like yeah it was bit of a just after

oh this is like that kind of mid that mid budget kind of summer film that just like what is this I feel like Darko might have been like

a really low budget movie that just came from nowhere that's what I felt at the time feel like Darko might have been like a really low budget movie that just came from nowhere that's what I felt at the time because it had that Mad World

song on it didn't it as well yeah that'll cost you anyway it's an indie movie which is still it's still aged

it's aged really really well it's a banger anyway on that note Pete we should get out of here take us out of here brother

films we like we'll be back on Thursday for more of this. I will have returned from Philadelphia with stories about cheese sticks and Airbnbs. I don't know what's going to happen. A lot of wrestling. I like that you go away to cities, random cities.

I know you're going for wrestling, but random cities and you don't do any prep. Well, I... Did you crash a car last time? I may have scraped a car on Ariana Grande's house. I'm driving. Because of certain obligations I have in work and home, I have to fly out later than Mark from Wrestle Me.

Why don't you like flying with other people? You never do that. And I have to fly into a different city and then drive into Philadelphia. What city are you flying into? New York FK. New York FK. New York FK airport.

I'm going to be landing at 11 o'clock at night, really tired. And I'm going to pick up an electric car from a B-grade rental place and I'm going to drive it down to Philadelphia. From New York FK. From New York FK, baby. It's only a couple hour drive, it's not too bad. It's not too bad. It's near too bad. I've done me doggies. Good luck.

Wish you very well and we'll chat to you when you get back. Look after yourselves. Alright. Ta-ta. Bye-bye. The Luke and Pete Show is a Stack Production and part of the ACAST Creator Network.