The Luke and Pete Show - It's Been's back

Episode Date: May 4, 2020

Since the lockdown started, memes have got danker, Kanye’s become a billionaire and Pete’s grown confident enough to challenge Post Malone on his drink selection. That's right, it’s another episode of The Luke and Pete Show!Also, there's Nike tennis socks, more on the flaming tar barrels in Ottery St. Mary, some bits and pieces about Dave Grohl, and a delivery for Flat 3...Get in touch with us [e-mail], we always love hearing from you!**Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or your preferred podcast provider. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Peloton all-access membership separate. Learn more at onepeloton.ca slash running. Welcome to the Luke and Pete show episode, Who the Heck Cares? It's 2020, everything's topsy-turvy and upside down. Mine is Pete Donaldson and I'm joined by a man by the name of... I'm Luke Moore and I'm sponsored by Nalgene. Oh, Nalgene. Have you got your little Nalgene? Yeah, I forgot to unscrew it before we started,

so let me just do that now, off mic, so you don't get annoyed. But you carry on, mate. So you didn't hear that, did you? I've already done it and you don't get annoyed but you carry on mate so you didn't hear that did you i've already done it you didn't hear i didn't did you move it yeah the problem with um broadcasting uh in bedrooms things like that is that you don't actually unless you've got a a specific setup which i do actually have because it makes me feel comfortable uh you can't actually hear what's going into the microphone so no you don't know whether you're breathing heavily into the microphone you can't actually hear what's going into the microphone so no you don't know whether you're breathing heavily into the microphone you don't know whether your nalgene bottle is making a noise it's uh it's it's all rather upsetting yeah so so for people who who

don't know about broadcasting um welcome to the club i'm in it um you you normally can hear yourself so that's why it's infuriating when you listen to the radio or watch TV. Actually, no, not TV. When you listen to the radio or a podcast and people go off mic or they sound ridiculous, that's just because they aren't listening to themselves. I'm talking to you, ex-pros, sometimes on TalkSport. But in this situation, you can't actually hear yourself anyway.

Well, sometimes they don't want to wear headphones, are they? No, exactly. Yeah, sometimes when you interview someone, and again, I'm talking about the rock stars and the indie pop stars, when I chat to them in my past as a radio DJ, a lot of them just sort of just don't like uh headphones because messes up their hair doesn't really go with their sunglasses or whatever and it just means that they don't actually know how loud they're being so I have to kind of ride the levels a little bit and it's just it's a bit of a

nightmare guys that's your business you know a microphone as you would be no doubt I'm surprised to hear um when I do a ramble meet so I interview someone in our studio or I'm on the radio, it's not an option to not wear headphones. I don't care who they are. I'll just tell them they have to wear them. Yeah. I will always take it down to when I was on the red carpet for the Brit Awards probably about six years ago now,

a man by the name of David Grohl came down, a man who I probably would have liked to have a chat with. But obviously the big swinger, the big swing and Willie in absolute was the Drive Time show. So what I had to do instead of interviewing him myself and sending the audio down the line, I had to put some headphones on Dave Grohl's head and he was interviewed by. That's poor. That's poor. It was a little bit upsetting because obviously I don't work in radio anymore and that was

one of the ones I'd quite like to tick off the list I don't know what exactly I'd say to Dave Grohl I'd probably mention the song My Hero which is about a guy

called Chip Donaldson my name's Donaldson I always felt an affinity with that song I've mentioned that on the podcast before but yeah a little bit disappointing

to be honest one of the few people I never got to interview did I tell you that my friend Oli got pulled out of the crowd at a London food fighter show and played a song with them that's pretty cool lovely old job that's nice yeah so they they apparently dave grohl went

through this period a lot yeah if you're bringing people and people out the crowd and then my friend ollie um he's a quite a good guitar player and they pulled it they said can anyone play so i can't remember which song it was but can anyone play this song and he was like yeah i can and he got pulled out and he absolutely caned it. There's a video of him on his private Facebook doing it. It's actually very good. The one thing that's funny about it is that Oli isn't like, he's not uncool, but he's not like particularly standout cool either.

And one of the things that's quite funny is that it's almost a bit like seeing a non-professional footballer try and play football with professionals. It just looks mental. It's the same with rock artists. It's the same with musical artists on stage. They're so good at it most of the time. Even the ones who have that kind of indie aesthetic of we don't really care.

They are still so good at it, most of them. So when you get up there as an amateur, it looks automatically a little bit awkward, but maybe that's just because you're used to seeing the band as a whole and then they don't fit in or whatever. There was one guy that Dave Grohl pulled out of the crowd and he was in full kiss makeup. That's amazing.

And he was very good and he really went for it because, I mean, for crying out loud, he's walking around with kiss makeup. So well done that man. But you do see it every now and again. There was that lovely picture that was going around Twitter of, oh God, was it a member of, it wasn't a member of the Sex Pistols. It was a member of like an older band, maybe Prog. And basically it was Guy in a Leather Jacket chatting to a member of Slipknot.

And then there was a little kid dressed as one of the members of Slipknot. And it looked like the kid was really bored because his dad was talking to a member of Slipknot. And it looked like the kid was really bored because his dad was talking to a member of Slipknot. And then it turned out the backstory behind it was that the kid who was the son of the bloke who was in the prog band talking to a member of Slipknot actually now drums horses. Does that make sense?

Yeah, that's funny. So the backstory behind... The meme was incredible. It looked amazing. What an image. And then the backstory is even the meme was incredible. It looked amazing. What an image. And then the backstory is even somehow more incredible than that. And I'm sure people will have lots of emails ready to go right now about it. But I'm hoping.

Pete, how has lockdown been for memes? They've got danker. Yeah, more dank. Obviously, a lot of people at home preparing memes just off the production line quicker than anything really. And I found like this, I didn't find it, Murray James of Logo Peach Show fame, he sent me an automatic kind of AI meme generator.

And my God, it's good. Like it genuinely pulls at the stark contrast how shit memes are because this you just press a button and it creates automatic memes and it's just have you ever created a meme that's become famous and gone and gone viral or whatever or done well i've asked you before i know i know your friend alex is terrified of you making him a meme but is that the closest you've come yeah no i've never i've never yeah that you what making an ai meme no there's no there's just no um i think the closest i've been to going i think you do that thing where you type in your name and then news story uh like you type in your at pete donaldson

twitter name and then you go to the news page on google and it shows like the most popular thing you've done effectively in the news area and mine was that dressed as uh the Travago lady oh yeah that was very good that made that made the front page of the Hartlepool News I didn't it yeah and it was in the evening standard that's the only reason why they knew about it but we are uh but we are Luke of course speaking in the week that uh Kanye West is now a billionaire he's actually made he was very angry with Forbes uh Forbes would never um say that he was a billionaire. He was very angry with Forbes. Forbes would never say that he was a billionaire. Now he's actually made it thanks to his Adidas work.

He's now actually a billionaire. He reckons he's a 3.1 billionaire, but Forbes have got it. I shortlisted this story to talk about as well a week or so ago and I forgot to do it. And it's funny to me because Kanye West is a character. Let's make that absolutely clear. And I enjoy a lot of his work. I think he's probably a bit of a, I don't know if he could be a bit of a genius, but he certainly sees the world differently.

As my friend Jimmy would say, deals in a different currency. And that is a key part of being a genius. And some of the stuff he's done has been amazing. But the funny thing to me is Kanye West's need to be seen and recognized and acknowledged as a billionaire might well be more important to him than actually being a billionaire and the reason I say that is because he's obviously so wealthy anyway it doesn't really make any difference so if someone says to you Pete you're going to have 999 million pounds and then all of a sudden, you found out you had £1.1 billion. You probably wouldn't even notice.

So to Kanye, it's important for him to have been seen and acknowledged in this kind of social strata that is to be a billionaire. And it's classic because when Forbes magazine finally acknowledged him as a billionaire, he texted the editor of the magazine and said apparently the following, it's not a billion, it's 3.3 billion, but no one at Forbes knows how to count. He then went public and said it was a disrespectful article

that was purposely snubbing him. You know what you're doing, West said. You're toying with me and I'm not going to lie down and take it anymore in Jesus' name. It's what Jesus would have wanted. That's what i like about that that's wonderful yeah roll away that stone i've got three billion dollars the thing that gets me is like that he's if you were going to talk about like bling rappers like he doesn't strike me as being he's obviously a very well-off man and he came up a time where like bling and and and showing off your money was like a big thing.

But he became like a rapper that was a bit more cerebral and money wasn't really a big part of his image. Would that be fair to say? I wouldn't be an expert on his output at all. I like a lot of his stuff, but I wouldn't sort of post myself as someone who knew an awful lot about him. I'm just thinking about his videos and stuff, not a lot yachts and you know it was a bit more playful i think i just i just read an article about 50 cent and the guy that's really interesting and it's clear that um 50 cent is so

well um motivated towards money over and above anything he's ever done musically to the point of where you know he's not that bothered about putting music out now and he's more of a businessman and that but he says that's always been his kind of MO. He started out, his mom was a drug dealer. She was tragically killed. He became a drug dealer. And he was all about getting money. Obviously, his first record, Get Rich or Die Trying, et cetera.

So I don't think he would put Kanye West in that bracket. But it's clearly a huge part of that type of music that is about success and about flaunting success. And I imagine lyrically, he probably does talk a lot about it, but then his most recent record was one of the worst pieces of music I've ever heard. So I wouldn't take my word on it.

I'm not an expert on him at all. Oh, you didn't get invited to his little Sunday gospel? He is funny though, Kanye. There's just something inherently quite funny about him. He lends himself, speaking of memes, he lends himself to a meme and a g though, Kanye. There's just something inherently quite funny about him. He lends himself, speaking of memes, he lends himself to a meme and a gif, Kanye. There's like brilliant gifs of him pretending to laugh and then just being really upset straight afterwards.

I like him. I think he's one of those people you'd like to hang out with for a bit because he'd just be too challenging. You know, like really funny people who are always on. I think he would just be too challenging to sort of deal with. Yeah, people will think that of you, but you're not always really funny. No, I do tend, well, yeah, I'm not funny at all,

but I just do tend to kind of hide in the background when people are really having a big old guffaw and I sort of think there's something wrong with me. I'm not enjoying this question. I think it's... Speaking of rappers... I was just going to say that you're insane

and sometimes it manifests itself as funny. Yeah, fair do, it's fair do. Carry on. Speaking of rappers, I was watching, I don't know why, I quite like Post Malone

and he's done a couple of good songs, but he did a big tribute to Nirvana with the drummer from Blink-182 and a couple of other songs. But he did a big tribute to Nirvana with the drummer from Blink-182 and a couple of other people. And he did it, I think, in his, I'd say, like, sort of man cave slash rumpus room.

I saw the still that you sent me, the image, yeah. I mean, the boo selection in his little kind of Rodden, sorry, Del Boy kind of mini bar he's got. Home bar. Home bar is awful. Now, I've been told since bar he's got. Home bar. Home bar is awful. Now, I've been told since that he's obsessed with Bud Light, and that's his... Is it Bud Light?

Yeah, Bud Light. That's his favourite drink. But his actual selection of spirits is like two bottles of Hendrix gin, maybe a bottle of champagne, nothing else. It was terrible. You wouldn't find 50 Cent doing that. No, he'd have bloody henny henny coming out of his nostrils i'll tell you what i don't even i don't even think that i wouldn't if you

if you played like a 10 songs to me one after the other and said which ones of those are post my own song i don't know but i'm gonna tell you a single one of them well i think he's a bit of a i think he's a bit of a punk rocker slash he liked his guitar music and then saw which way the prevailing winds were blowing and kind of switched a little bit Oh did he? Did one of those things? Well he's a hell of a guitarist

and he's just that bloke with drawings on his face who sounds a bit sleepy when he raps Yeah okay He knows his way around a melody. He can sing a little bit. Do you remember that? He's only 24.

Bloody hell, he looks about 40. Do you remember that band Brother, who then had to become Viva Brother, who were like... Oh, that rings a bell, yeah. They were kind of sort of heralded, or they were heralding themselves, I suppose, it's probably more accurate, of bringing back Britpop,

and they were all dressed like 90s stuff. And their songs were kind of, it's not almost like Oasis rip-offs, but very embedded in the 90s aesthetic. And it was perfectly fine. It was derivative. And it was just, it was no, it wasn't meaningfully worse

than any other kind of land for indie stuff. But anyway, they chucked it out. They're saying they're the next big thing. And they might got a lot of headlines for just showing off and so showing how great they were. And then someone found out that they just like a year before that, they were like an emo band called kill the arcade. They just completely changed their aesthetic overnight.

And that's to be fair to them. They actually got a little bit of quite minimal success just by doing that. So there's a precedent for that isn't and the thing is that um music the music industry is is obsessed with um with authenticity and in quotes realness when actually the the the entire history of recorded pop music is littered with completely inauthentic artists who have been basically really successful. For example, Keith Richards, Peter Green,

Jon Bon Jovi, for those of you who don't know, isn't actually a cowboy and never has been. You know, those kind of things. And it doesn't actually really matter, but for some reason, some people get obsessed with the idea that it's authentic. What was that? That was the Jon Bon Jovi alarm.

Shall I go and see where it is at the door? Yeah, go on, do it. I'll fill in while you're doing it. So as I was saying, Jon Bon Jovi, despite thinking he was a, or trying to tell everyone he was a cowboy and then living his dream by being in Young Guns 2, he's obviously from New Jersey and not a cowboy at all. I don't know who could be at Pete's door other than a delivery guy because

I don't know if he has any visitors. Are you back? I'm back, yeah. It was a package for flat three. I live at another flat. That was kind of a cliffhanger that didn't really deliver.

What did we expect this day? It literally delivered. I sort of feel bad that I don't take enough packages in because I think a few times I've been recording podcasts with you guys and someone's clearly tried to get hold of me by doing that, like ringing the doorbell. Someone else has picked up the package, walked up the stairs, put the package outside my door,

and all they can hear is me doing a podcast, having a lovely old time, and just ignoring the fact that the package, walked up the stairs, put the package outside my door, and all I can hear is me doing a podcast, having a lovely old time, and just ignoring the fact that the package is at the door. So I thought, for this time, I'll let the guy in. He can put his package down on the stairs. That's fair enough. Pete, we were just talking about authenticity in music. So there's a singer-songwriter I like called C.W. Stoneking.

I've told you about him before. He's this weird throwback. He's like half Australian, half American. He dresses in 1920s clothes and has created this persona where he's like a traveling singer-songwriter. He also calls himself a part-time hoodoo doctor's assistant.

And he sings songs like he's in that era. So it's like a whole theatre piece. So when you go and watch him live, he completely lives that kind of performance. So he'll start telling stories in between songs about things that have happened to him, like he had the last dojo in existence and that he lives on a farm in the deep south

in the 20s and stuff. All this kind of weird stuff. He sounds like he's approaching outsider artists for me. He's really interesting. He's really odd. But it's obviously completely inauthentic because none of it can be true. But it is a really good performance.

It's amazing. And his records sound brilliant. He records them in that way so they sound like they're 100 years old. Anyway. Does he put it on wax cylinder, though? Does he request it? He probably does.

He's definitely a bit of a weird guy. But anyway, I was just going to say that the biggest mistake I ever made was starting following him on Twitter. Because despite all this, he's got a Twitter account, right? Turns out he's one of these Alex Alex Jones, proper conspiracy theory, weird, weird guys. And a high percentage of his tweets are just tweeting the vomiting emoji in a reply to Hillary Clinton whenever she tweets.

But I mean, presumably that would be his opinion. I mean, a lot of- No, because in the 1920s he didn't have Twitter, mate. So he shouldn't even be on it. He's broken his own illusion there. Yeah, but he's probably working with the science they had at the time. You know, gas lamps and fucking...

I don't know. Maybe. Everyone's taking lithium. So how does he explain the very existence of Twitter to himself? He probably thinks it's some kind of like travelling voodoo kind of... I don't know.

What would that be? Like a magic typewriter? Yeah, he's a magic typewriter. Anyway, his music's great. I love it, but he's just mad. Who would have thought a guy who lives his life like it's the 1920s and carries on in every facet of his life turned out to be a bit weird? I didn't see it coming.

There we go. I bet he didn't either. I'm just reading. Actually, one thing that did get delivered to me was the, it's really weird. One of the weirdest things about living in the middle of a town is like you get weird stuff shoved through your door. And it's not just like cleaning service and stuff like that.

There is a couple of like free newspapers and you rarely see free newspapers nowadays, but the West End Extra. And it's all about like theatre and, you you know what people are up to and stuff but like obviously um we're under lockdown and people are just helping out each other and stuff and you don't sort of see this sense of community but there is a guy who i see around town quite a lot around dem so certainly my street anyway um he's this guy called shahin shahablu and he um he was just a he's just a photographer in iran who obviously had to leave because he was gay uh and found found a home in um well or compton street and you know around soho and stuff and um he died he died from covid last week and it's

really weird seeing someone you saw on the street quite a lot on the front of a newspaper and i must have seen him like only a few weeks ago yeah uh you know just sadly passed away but it was uh but as a newspaper it's a really it's one of the weirdest ones it's like a it's like a showbiz free newspaper that comes through your door and i remember seeing them i remember seeing like a bbc documentary series or one-off maybe about people who live in mayfair like because obviously there are people who live there and yeah they had like a local community newspaper but it was basically just a load of um i think bored rich people just doing it as a hobby kind of thing i don't know

if there's any good i've never read it but it was i was surprised one to see people living in mayfair and two and they live there full time by the way they're not just turning up and they're not kind of just rich people who um use that place to um to stay there for a few weeks a year when they want to visit london and they all live there full time and they had this local community newspaper it's just really weird to think of a community in somewhere like mayford yeah there was um there was a woman who she was like a madam back in the day uh who i think she was a girlfriend of jimmy hendrix for a bit but my mate used to live uh just off region street um in like in the same building as her like below her basically which was this really inspirational kind of character and stuff and one time um some burglars

broke in and she managed to i don't know how she did it, but she managed to coax them into going onto the roof by which, like, she'd only broken her ankle trying to fend them off. And she managed to sort of say, look, go through that door, that's where I keep all my jewellery and stuff, and just lock them on the roof and waited until the police came. It's a really inspirational woman who

knew Jimi Hendrix back in the 60s and 70s and stuff. And it's like, there's so many stories and they're all kind of, you know, getting to the end of their lives now. And it would be, it'd be a real shame to sort of lose them all. I bet there'd be a real, I bet there's so many characters. Speaking of characters,

and we should go for a break in a minute, but before we do, I really want to share, I really want to share this story with you. Do you see that? Obviously it's happened in Florida for obvious reasons that we've gone into before. There's a bit of disney disney world in florida has been um closed obviously because of covid for for many weeks now and they're not sure they're going to be able to reopen it again but florida man richard mcguire right was found man he was found living on the walt disney world's discovery

island it's just because it's so massive it's absolutely huge obviously walt disney world He was found living on Walt Disney World's Discovery Island. It's just hanging because it's so massive. It's absolutely huge, obviously, Walt Disney World. And he was just been living there. It's referred to in the article I read as a tropical paradise. And he planned to live there for another week, but he was spotted. And so a load of deputies searched the whole thing and found him sleeping in one of the abandoned buildings. And he was arrested and charged with trespassing.

Isn't that an amazing thing? Is he like a drama, is he like a kind of like YouTuber that does stunts and stuff like that? Is he kind of, or is he just a man who's a 42 year old single man who might well... I'm not discounting it, I'm not discounting he's not a YouTuber. I just think it's a really amazing kind of subversion

of the idea that, do you remember all those soldiers who were still fighting the Second World War in the jungle and stuff. This guy's still living his best life in Disney World with no one else around. But I do sort of see every now and again these little videos where they'll sort of, like the guys in the North, they'll take you around Disneyland. I've never eaten any of the Disney products really,

but walking around they'll sort of go, see that little door there? If you go up, that is where there is a secret $10,000 a night like restaurant sort of thing where you can have like 20. And it's just, it's so massive and so well put together. Like it's actually quite inspirational. I see why people really get into Disneyland and Disney World, but for me, I'm just not that into Disney.

One of the things they do it's not that into disney one of the things they do which is amazing pete is that um they they design certainly what disney world in florida they design it so from no part of the park can you see any of the real world so it was the point where they've bought all the land around it to stop anyone building like tower blocks within a certain radius of it. And my sister used to work at Disneyland Paris. She was a dancer in the parade. She was some of the cues there. Oh, that's right, yeah. What character was she?

She was Goofy and Maleficent and Buzz Lightyear. A good mix. Yeah, not all at the same time that'll be confusing um but yeah so so she told me quite a few different uh stories about it but um it's a fascinating place i mean the one thing i would say about it is that who am i to to to judge because clearly they know what they're doing but it does i don't think it needs to be quite as expensive as it is let's just put it that way so the idea that you can't really get any kind of meal in the park for a family of four for under like $60, $70, $80

is pretty full on. I don't think it needs to be that expensive, but it is amazing. It's a gold standard, isn't it, for what it does? But it's more just like Disney stories are all about like rags to riches kind of stories and how everyone's supposed to be the same and everyone's supposed to love each other and that but like there's a real kind of like moneyed hierarchy it's it's a very sort of like

it's a great example of capitalism isn't it like disney because like different hotels different rates and stuff different hotels different rates but also like different like like q jumping passes you know vip experiences i don't understand why they do it because you don't be stood in the line Different hotels, different rates, but also different queue jumping passes, VIP experiences. I don't understand why they do it because you don't want to be standing in line for ages, but also it's supposed to be everyone's the same. But isn't that the same in any entertainment industry? Football's the same, isn't it? Yeah.

Restaurants have chef's tables and plane flights have different cabins. It's just the way of the world, I think. Yeah. I know what you mean, though, because it's supposed to be seen as being there for everyone and being very friendly and lovely. Makes me a bit sad. Yeah. Listen, while you're a bit sad,

shall we have a little break? You can have a little cry. Then when we come back, we can do some emails, and that'll cheer you up. It might. We could call it Pete and Mark's Colossal Tussle. But we didn't. We called it Wrestle Me.

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It was. Someone heard it on the radio and went, that sums up everything about WrestleMania to me. And this. You can really see the old back acne on test. Yes. And this. Is it worth reminding people of what Earthquake John Tenter

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And we smell like a factory It's great Pete, I've done a little check over of the Twitter At Luke and Pete Show And I've just got a couple of things to bring to your attention Patrick says Can we get an It's Been on the next show? I feel like it's been too long It has been a while Maybe we need get an It's Been on the next show? I feel like it's been too long.

It has been a while. Maybe we need our first It's Been lockdown. It's been. Ah, too throaty. Out of breath. It's been. Go on, do another one. It's been.

That wasn't too bad. Let me put the flap down on my ISOVOX so I'm more isolated. This is actually what this ISOVOX booth is supposed to be for. It's been. I can't be for. It's been... I can't do it. It's been... Not good enough. Not good enough.

I'm sorry, guys. Look, what I'm going to do now is I'm going to get it up on Spotify, okay, and I'm going to play it, and then I'm going to give you the key, okay? All right, cool. So it's this. It it's this it's been it's been that's the that's the key all right it's it's been oh i can't do it that's it's been it's been it's getting really it's getting like a horror movie now yeah go away work on it hearing that in your head go away and work on it. I didn't hear that in your head. Go away and work on it. All right, James Barry's been in touch as well saying, Pete, the cubes you're talking about in maths class

are called multi-link cubes. They're quite useful for children up to about the age of 13 to show the rate at which volume increases with the scale factor. For example, you need a million to build a solid one-metre cube. Yes, I did see that, and I was fascinated by how big that would be. Now, if there was a YouTuber who did those stunts, I'd actually quite like to see them buy loads of those cubes and actually make a billions cubes worth of block.

But for me, though, there was never enough of them to create anything. It was just either a gun or a stick that you would hit someone with and it would just explode everywhere. Well, one thing that's really good at illustrating, that's probably more like what we used to get up to at school, you and I, but what's really interesting about that is the example of showing kids how sort of dramatic scale can be in mass and the one that always if you get something wrong it's if you get like a a number wrong you can build a ridiculously

sized building rather than a normal size building yeah i mean that's quite a inarticulate way of putting it but i understand what you mean but what i was going to say was the example that always sticks in my mind and i think i read it in um i I read it in one of Dr. Michael Brooks' books or something, but is that you can only fold a piece of paper in half seven times, right? Yeah. But because of the exponential nature of the maths involved, if you were to fold a piece of paper in half, in theory, 42 times, it would reach the moon.

Oh. Because it's exponential. The factor is just the scale is just gigantic, basically. I think if you do it 100 times, it's like the size of the universe or something. So it's kind of interesting. Didn't they sort of... So how many times can you fold it?

Was it four? Seven, I think. Seven, sorry. So I'm fairly certain quite recently they've figured out a way of doing one more just by choosing obviously a membrane-thin piece of paper and also just an industrial squishy machine. I don't know, but I'm fairly certain

they went for one more than was mathematically... Or maybe I'm talking absolute shit. Maybe they got to seven, but it was one more than anyone mathematically, or maybe I'm talking absolute shit. Maybe they got to seven, but it was one more than anyone else had done. There was a big furore about it. Yeah, but this is what the show's all about, man. We stick it out there. We say our own version of the story

and loads of people email in and tell us what the actual fact is. And sometimes we forget to read the email out. Yes, that's exactly right. Helloatthewcompeteshow.com is the email out yes that's exactly right hello at the compete show.com is the email address luke my namesake has followed up on the tar barrel chat from last week saying oh my god yeah i know saying hi chaps i attended the university of exeter so did our colleague charlie by the way and he messaged me about it saying oh yeah it's crazy ottery st mary is not far from exeter and

as the tar barrels are a bonfire night event, there were buses put on to take us to see it when we were at university. It is as mad and dangerous as it sounds. The barrels are filled with flaming tar and then run around the square, passed from person to person. My understanding is that it's sort of a coming of age ceremony for young men who train to be able to carry the barrels for a certain amount of time there are no barriers and it's up to you and your wits to get out the way as the sweaty young men charging circles around the town very dangerous but surprisingly good fun to watch um thanks luke so it's kind of weird because i know that half the things that people say who read the daily mail the sun or whatever sell health and safety gone mad blah blah blah i mean this does sound like genuinely quite dangerous i'm surprised it still

carries on the pictures that um were sent along with the email and also the ones i researched it just looks ridiculous the amount of health and safety that goes into i think i said last week the amount of health and safety just goes into i don't know a door a town center you know i mean like they've got to have so many different kinds of seals to not let kids trap their fingers and stuff. Yet the tradition allows people to just run around the streets with this boiling tar fire thing. It's so weird.

Yeah. I wonder why they get away with it. Maybe they just go, look, disclaimer, if you turn up at the town centre at this time of day, at this date, you're going to get covered in flaming tar get away with it. Maybe they just go, look, disclaimer, if you turn up at the town centre at this time of day, at this date, you're going to get covered in flaming tar. Deal with it. Doesn't seem that kind of watertight, though. No, it really doesn't.

And tar, but tar is a great sealant, you would say. We've got an email from James Heading. We're heading for an email. Hello to us. I've been listening from the start, but this is the first subject I felt I could weigh in on

with any useful comment. It delighted me to hear you talk about your love for the Nike tennis sock, Luke, because it means I've finally found someone who shares my enthusiasm.

Like you say, the Ferrari of house socks. I've even taken it one step further and I keep a stock of the black versions to wear to work. I might have a solution to the lack of V-shaped tightening of the sock bands that

Nike have dropped on recent models. Last time I ordered new socks, I took a risk and ordered the Nike dry cushion crew training sock and boy did it pay off. They essentially have the comfort of a football sock but in tennis sock form. The horizontal tightening band is still there to a degree but there is a mishmash of

tightening bands to achieve snugness to any foot and he's appended at a link uh i don't think he's got one of those like amazon deals where he gets a couple of penny kickback if you buy some tennis socks but uh i hope this helps uh yet this year's order if not apologies for wasting your time thanks and keep up the great work i'm looking at the head so we all know i'm looking at the link now pete actually it looks like an interesting um an interesting version i might give him a bash see if i can get um a three pack give him a run if i like him maybe i'll go down the route of buying a whole load of them for my yearly supply but i'll i will keep james uh appraised of my uh progress on that front but thank you very much for

getting in touch you posted a picture of your foot on Instagram because, I don't know, I think you think your fans are into that stuff. Because I'm basic. The back of your foot had one of those big, old Timmy Mallet Wackaday plasters on it. Yeah, the story behind that is I've got a new pair of running shoes.

Shout out to On Running. And what it is, I made the mistake of going for a walk in them to break them in. I shouldn't have done that because they gave me blisters on my heels. When I run with them, they're fine. But when I walk, they give me blisters.

So I had to put big bits of plaster over the back to go on my 10K run the other day. Right. Because I came, I was sort of coming back from Houston a little while ago. And I had, I'd done the same thing because I'd been running around playing football. I did the same thing and I had a big hole in the back of my foot

and I put my shoe on and it was so painful. I had to sign up for the Boris Bike Scheme and get a Boris bike and ride it all the way home because it was so painful. And you don't need me on the roads. It can be. It can be very, very very painful that kind of stuff like i've i've had um i've had blisters that'll make that'll bend your bones taking to doing a lot of walking i did i've been doing like every couple of days i'll do

like about a good uh around like seven eight miles walk walk there and back around town. Apparently, I didn't realize if you walk that distance, it's pretty much the same as running that distance, give or take a couple of calories. I don't know if I agree with that, but I mean, walking is a really, really good form of exercise. The problem is I don't think you're going to burn the same amount of calories. So it depends what you're looking for out of it, I guess. Apparently, though, it does roughly burn the same amount of calories. Who told depends what you're looking for out of it, I guess. Apparently, though, it does roughly burn the same amount of calories.

Who told you that? CW Stone King? I think it was a professional emailing into another podcast that I enjoy. So it did seem to be a professional person who was saying it. You've hurt me today with that. I mentioned another podcast. I'm mugging off your running. Well, listen, if people want to get in touch on that and chime in on that debate, hello at lukeandpetecher.com,

let us know. I find it very tough to believe that that could be the case because your calorie burning is certainly done by the amount of energy you're using. And if you're going faster, you're using more energy. Surely that's just some basic rule of physics. But I don't know. Yeah, but it's just taking longer though, isn't it? You're doing it for longer if you're walking., you're using more energy. Surely that's just some basic rule of physics. But I don't know. Yeah, it's just taking longer though, isn't it?

You're doing it for longer if you're walking. Oh yeah, fair point. Maybe it's, yeah, maybe it is exactly the same. We'll find that, won't we? We'll put this to bed one way or another, Pete. And next time you do it, I'll tell you what, the loser of this debate and this argument has to do that same walk or run

with a flaming tar barrel on their back. Yeah, I've got to do a run. You've got to do a walk. You've got to walk a mile in my shoes with your blisters. Yeah, your shoes will be too small for me as well, probably. So you'll get even worse blisters.

Right, that's about it for us. Actually, you usually wrap up the show, so why don't you do it, Luke? Oh, thanks, Pete. Yeah, that's about all we've got time for this time around. It's been quite a long try by our standards. We've enjoyed it, though.

We hope you have too. Get in touch. Hello at LukeandPeteShow.com. We will be back, of course, on Thursday, as has become the custom. We look forward to talking to you again then. Stay safe. Stay at home. Protect the NHS. Save lives. All that

good stuff. It will all be over by Christmas. We'll still be here to hopefully entertain you and give you a little bit of a diversion while you're isolating. Say goodbye, Peter. Goodbye, Peter. And it's goodbye from me as well.

We'll see you on Thursday. Laters. Laters. This was a Stakhanov production.