The Luke and Pete Show - I’ve Got Loads of Bags of Cement

Episode Date: April 23, 2026

Pete went to Las Vegas for WrestleMania and disgraced himself by not drinking or gambling enough. He got a hat, though. Swings and roundabouts.Meanwhile, the balustrade saga continues. Pete reckons he’s at least earned the right to have a go at this project and we promise to keep you posted on his progress.Plus, Luke’s got beef with certain musical solos and overlong albums. Looking at you, Tupac.Send us your latest stories, questions and comments here: [e-mail] Luke and Pete Show is the sometimes ridiculous, always funny podcast with Luke Moore and Pete Donaldson: two men who have time on their hands and a good idea of how to waste it. Subscribe to get your comedy podcast fix every Monday and Thursday. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to the Luke and Pete Shaw. It is Thursday, the 23rd of April. My name is P.T. April Donaldson, and I'm joined by Mr. Lucie. April Moore. Lukey, how are you doing? Suck it. Whoa, what you doing? Have you gone at all attitude on me?

What's going on? Attitude era. It's the attitude era. I'm right. How are you? You've gone all horrible. It's porn stars showing off their busters and people crotch chopping. I don't like it.

I'm all right, mate. How's it going? What's new? I'm good. I've just, uh, I, as you can see, I'm wearing a backwards baseball cap. Yeah. That I bought from a goodwill in Las Vegas. And, uh, yeah, I'm fresh from the plane off of, uh, off of a flight from Las Vegas for WrestleMania.

So I'm, uh, how was the trip? Uh, the trip was good. Uh, the trip was jet laggy. So I, I felt like I didn't give Las Vegas my best side, uh, because I spent most the time just sort of staring at the ceiling in my hotel room going, uh, how long were there for? I'm going to be tired. for the next day. I was there for about six nights and I got on a Las Vegas time on the sixth night.

So that's... Of course you did. It cost it. Absolutely cracking. I tell you what, Luke, I went to the city of sin. And I had, I think, over the first five days, about four beers. And that's... And for me, that is obscenely bad. That's breakfast. A terrible performance. What happened then? Talk us through that. Why did that happen? Just general tiredness and not feeling like I had any time.

to drink the alcohol really was grumpy it was I was grumpy yes I was well yeah did Mark say you were grumpy no Mark didn't say I was grumpy but Mark I've known Mark long enough to we just know each other's beats I suppose you're the same you know you know when I'm I'm having a mayor you just disappear you get really angry he's disappear yeah exactly but yeah I didn't drink that much then the last night I went I'll have a I'll have a I'll have a couple of dairies and I had a couple of dairies and still my average over the week is just not great and I just feel like I'll let myself down really.

Did you find an indie bar in Vegas or no? I didn't have to... All the show... There were midnight shows, Luke. Midnight. On jet lag. It just does not compute. It doesn't math for me.

So how many nights does WrestleMania actually go on for then? WrestleMania is two nights. And then you've got on the Friday and the Monday, previewing it and post-viewing it is our shows, like TV shows. But the ones we mainly go for are like Effie's Big Gear brunch on a Saturday morning or Cluster Fuck. at midnight on Friday. All the kind of like indie shows

where people come and do silly stuff for very little money. Is it good? It was really good, it was really good. A lot of great shows. I met, we met Tony Atlas. You're familiar with Tony Atlas, aren't you, Luke? Yeah, I know Tony Atlas is.

Yeah, that's great. What a great meat. He was Mr. USA and he didn't try and lick our feet or anything. He must be old now. He's obsessed with feet, right? He is, yeah, yeah. He was a very, very, lovely man and I want him to be my new dad. I think he's absolutely charming.

You don't need a new dad, do you? No, the old one's absolutely fine. But he's not Mr. the USA. He didn't not, he can't lift more stuff than anyone else. Your dad's Mr. Seam. He is Mr. Seam. He is, yeah. And he loves a foot. He loves licking on their feet. But yeah, so, yeah, all good, bring. Do you have bigger hands than Haxor? Well, Haxor was actually there. He was kind of on like a raised kind of platform.

Look, basically, WrestleMania is where you go and meet all the wrestlers for 20 quid, and say hello to all the wrestlers and get pictures taken with them and stuff. But you also buy Tutt, Mark fills a suitcase

with stuff from the 80s, you know, all DVDs and VHS and stuff. And you get to meet some of the guys. And there's, you know, there's people like our level, podcasters and stuff, sat, you can go and meet them. Not huge lines for that,

next to Rick Flair. How's Rick still going? How's the Nature Boy still going? He's the right old state. I think he had a very public ejecting from one of the casinos after just being a... He's got problems. But he was up bright and bushy-tailed to sit behind a chair, to sit behind a desk to... He shouldn't have been sitting behind the chair.

Sitting behind the desk to get some signings done. But we saw Haxor Jind Duggan, and he was on like a raised kind of ring that some lawyers' firms kind of basically paid him to sort of, you know, subsidise his meeting greets for, you know, 10 pound less on the dollar to go and meet Haxor. but you did have to, I don't know, get a chat by a lawyer What a strange world we've built for us. It is very strange, it is very strange. How was the flight over and float back? Talk to me about the flight? It was, there was a very big man who we saw on the way out last year to Las Vegas.

And I was like, that guy looks like he's having a bad time. He didn't coach with us. And he was in, he wasn't on the middle seat, he was on the aisle seat. And he's too. big for this world. He's too big. And he couldn't, he was so tall from the bomb upwards. He couldn't adjust the angle of the television enough to see the, you know, whatever, you know, bit of cinema he wanted to watch on the little telly. So he's so big. And he's having a bad time. Anyway, he gets there. And turns out he is a British wrestler. And he got in trouble, not really in

trouble, but he got a stern telling off from the rest of the wrestling community. Because he, because they were having a wrestling match in one of the indie shows down the way, and they broke out of the confines of the venue, and they went down the street, and they broke into like a Popeye's and continued the wrestling bout in there. What the hell? Without permission? Without permission, and a lot of other wrestlers were saying, we keep getting our venues taken off us because of bad behaviour,

and then you guys are rolling into a Popeye. I mean, you know, if Stone called Steve Austin did it, I'm sure everyone would be bang up for it, but not in this case, unfortunately. So, yeah. Did you speak to this guy then? I didn't speak to this guy, but it was notable. I was like, that guy's too big to be a normal man.

He has to be a wrestler, and he was a wrestler. So, yeah, we got to see a lot of wrestling concerns, local and international. Wrestlinging itself was terrible. It always is. Oh, right. Who did you fly with? British Airways. Very nice.

Very nice. I didn't do any gambling until the last day when I was at the airport, And you know in Las Vegas airport. You gambled on your marriage by going, presumably. Say again. Gambled on your marriage by going. Oh, yeah, massively. Yeah, yeah.

I've got constant text saying how difficult it had been. But, you know, that's just that's the price in the city of sin. Leoncy. Yeah, see of Sir, Leoncy. And I went to, we went to the airport and I was like, I've got $50 in my pocket. And I'm not going to get rid of that. I've got no plans to go back to the US at any point. And Lukey doesn't deserve it.

I'll never go anyway. I don't know. But I was in the airport and I had $50 left and I was like, I'm going to do my first bit of gambling here at Las Vegas Airport. And I went on the little, it had like a little automated roulette wheel with a real ball. And it sort of like bounces around. You know how roulette works. But it bounces around and you win or lose money.

Again, you know how rule it works. And I was up to like, 90 quid. I'd made $40. I'd made $40. Luke. Why don't you just cash out? Lost it all. That's not fun, is it?

Lost it all. I do not know how people keep doing what they're doing in Vegas. It's an illness. It is an illness. It is a mental illness. It is. And what I like about it is, you see a lot of these kind of, you know, Britain's Got Talent kind of British act going and doing like residences there. You know, the boy would tape on his face and puff the magic dragon and stuff. And all of these like little kind of guys that you'd see on Britain's Got Talent, they, you know, Simon Cowell saw something in them, hooked them up with some. some Vegas promoter and now they're doing runs of Vegas in tiny little comedy rooms. But their pictures are everywhere. It's really exciting. That's cool. Well, I wouldn't mind a bit of that for us.

What, do a little Vegas residency? Yeah. For the Rambal or the Luke and Pete show? Either. Think of the Overheads, Luke. This is a show about nothing. Well, okay, Luke and Peach are then because the other heads are lower. Just doing Luke and Luke show. Yeah, just a Luke show.

Yeah, just a Luke show. That'd be great. Speaking of that, are you excited for the announcement of our World Cup watch along? I thought we'd already announced it. I thought it was all the out there. Oh, right, yeah. I was excited before it happened. Then it happened, and I thought the promotional video was very professional. And, yeah, I'm really excited about the...

I'm really excited about getting involved in the beer. When's the beer out? I think the beer you can pre-order, can't you? Soon, yeah, I think you can pre-order it now, yeah. Nice. Yeah, love for the fizzy lager. It's just what you wanted, just what the doctor ordered. Just what the doctor ordered after me two daqries and $50 down at the cashies.

That's a side then. I mean, you managed to make Las Vegas sound quite under. overwhelming there. Yeah, it is a depressing place one would just... Yeah, lots of people say that. There was, um, oh, there was, there was a micro show of, um, uh, wrestling artists, um, who have dwarfsism. Um, Mexicans? What? Uh, yes, yes, I think so, yeah, I think most of them would be, would be Mexicans. I don't even all Mexicans were dwarfs. I don't mean, Mexico generally are dwarfs. I just mean, in this case, that tradition of wrestling is Mexican. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, mecrows. Um, yeah,

the MECROS did a wrestling match, which we didn't actually see, but they were doing it at a strip club called Little Darling's. And I think we might have talked about Little Darling's last year. Do you have to say it like that? Little Darling's. No, we were doing names for nurseries. Oh, that might come up. I don't think there's no time for establishment, though, mate.

Okay, fine, fine. But I think I led us down that particular garden path. But, like, so Mark, obviously, when he was going around at the Resslercom, they had stickers for. Little Darling's totally nude. That's literally the bumper sticker. Little darlings, totally nude. What the fuck were they thinking of there?

Little darlings. That is probably only in Vegas, I would say. Yeah, only in Vegas, yeah. Yeah, it's astonishing, astonishing. So I'm obsessed. Did you get back this morning, did you? Yes, yeah, go back this morning. So I'm just sort of rolling in punches.

What a drafter. What a trooper. What a grafter. And was your, did your family miss you? Were they pleased to see? you? Well, I've not seen the youngest one, so she might hit me with a hateful message of spite, but the dog and the partner I have access to seemed pretty happy with him. The youngest one, your daughter? The youngest one, yeah, the youngest little, the little darling.

The youngest one of these family members. The collections of atoms that inhabit my space. The skin flex I inhale as I sleep. with a lot of action about the kind of glass balustrade I've tried to put up I've had a couple of people on the old Rambled Discord

talking about how best to do it Oh nice, okay any firm kind of tips because I thought it very boring so I didn't read it properly You're yawning and just relating that story to me

He actually Sarah texted me Halfway through the holiday As if to sort of tend me to come home Oh my holiday is it? Oh, it's a holiday now Is it? Yeah, I've fallen foul of the first rule of WrestleMania.

It's very important work trip. Get that, or you get ready to stick. We did so much bloody podcasting, Jesus Christ, and a lot of filming as well. Too late. It's called it a holiday now. Yeah, too late. That's why he misses his few. Take it off my allocation. Yeah.

What does she say? She, halfway through the very important business trip to Little Darling's. She messaged me saying, I've got a quote for, knocking that wall down. I was like, you are. While the cat's away. The cat's away.

Get some progress made on this project. Yeah. And the foreman's gone, the foreman's gone off sight. We can actually get some work done now. That's what she's thinking. So, and I said, and I said as if to sort of say,

as if to sort of untempt her from doing it, I said, Sarah, knocking the wall down is the easiest part of this absolute. I bet you took it so badly. I bet you were like raging. Yeah. Were you raging?

when you saw the message? I was raging, but I also thought, you know what? She's as bad at me as me at organising bigger boys to come around and do stuff. So I was like, well, look, if you knock it down, I'm not going to put the glass balustrade up, you'll have to get someone to do that as well. Okay, so... Oh, so you're cutting your nose to spite your face.

So the bit you really want to do, you're not going to do because you're petally annoyed with her for getting someone to knock the wall down. No, I want to knock the wall down. I want to do it all. I've got loads of bags of cement, like loads of them. I went to Wicks before I went away. You have like a work for a car round and you asked for a quarry and he went, I've got loads of bags of cement. So when do you want me to start?

When you want to start? It's alarm bell straight away. Well, you've got a hammer. Everything looks like a nail, as they say. So what is your actual plan for it? Not the wall down. So you get a stair jammer and do that. Not the wall down.

I, like, like, who's the one who knocked down the Berlin wall? Hasselhoff. Hassell off. Like David Hasseloff. I'll do an impromptu gig, obviously, at the top of it. and then I'm going to fill the cavity cement blocks with cement then I'm going to drill some holes I'm going to put some kind of like rods in there

and then I'm going to lift the balustrade on top of that and everything will be hunky-dory and I will have to render the plaster on one of the sides of the walls that hasn't been knocked down so yeah I think it's... Were you sent photos of that to Bruno so everyone who listens to this show can evaluate your work? Depends on what it's looking like, I suppose, isn't it?

This depends of what it's looking like. Is there a chance that it could become a proper eyesore? Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. But that, I think that's true of everything.

And I think the way that my partner, Sarah, is treating this whole project in that, like, she seems compared to a lot of the other stuff I've done off me on back and without asking, she seems very concerned about this one. But she talks to me like, I'm fucking everything up.

She talks to me like I'm messing everything up in the house And I don't think that's true I don't think there's much I'm Notable success stories in the past Of this nature So what's your CV looking like on projects of this nature Right Wendy House

Yeah I mean I haven't seen that But I don't think it's the same type of thing It's a construction project It's a Wendy house I didn't do a great job on the paving And that is cement base So she's probably more likely looking at that What do you mean by you didn't do a great job?

job what does it look like well one of the paving slabs became kind of like dislocated can you dislocate a paving slab a paving slab was lifted away from the floor and when you stood on it it it so wobbled a little bit and that was a pain and um and so i put some cement in that and that's not come out amazingly but it is fixed and it is secured to the floor um but is that the sum total of your of your achievements so far in this area damp proofing on the walls drilled big halls put damp-proof and stuff in it, plastered over the top, and then painted it. I took up the... Plasted or fillered?

Plasted. Plasted. Did this some actual plastering? That's pretty good. Yeah. I took up some... What, that said I do? I took up some... I took up the carpets.

I mean, anyone could do that? I've cemented posts in the front garden with me picket fence. I've fixed the picket fence repeatedly. I've installed new picket fencing as well, made by bigger boys. So you're saying, is your, is your emotion? plea to Sarah that you've earned the right to have a go at this? Yeah, yeah. I think that's, and I'm doing it on this forum.

I'm not doing this on any of the show because I know she listens every now and again. I just, I don't know, I did say before I went away, I said, I don't know why you're so interested in this particular project. I don't know why you're so concerned about this one because I've done so many other things. That's why. And I don't think many of them have been a failure. And she said, well, let's not get into that. And I was like, well, it's probably not, it's probably not the time.

time to get into that. I think my... You want to play, desperately shout at the camera crew. Get me the Wi-Fi! Get me the Wi-Fi! She's about to call the bloke! Get me the Wi-Fi! I think my problem is that... My main problem is, as you can probably imagine, is if there's a job that requires you to do the same thing three times, I get terrifically excited on the first time, I've perfected it by the second time, and can I be asked to do it the third time? No. So that is the problem.

No, I think the third time you've over-complicated it by that point. Right, okay, no. Well, I just think by the third time it's too much work. No, there's two, with the stuff you do, which admittedly, in my experience, working with you is generally very good. If there is something you get you're susceptible to, it's overcomplication. Right. You've disappeared down the Mekong before anyone else knows what's happening.

Right. Okay. No, I think it's, I'm, yeah, I'm overcomplication or enthusiasm in the wrong direction. I think that's the phrase. You get worried about things before they happen, and I go off on one on my own terms and find it very hard to circle back into a place where... Mine is, and also you're very stubborn. I don't talk to enough people. No, but you'll double down.

Yeah. Emotionally led double downing is your thing. I think your image of me is very, very, it's constrained by, you know, five years ago. I've learned that nothing I do makes anyone happy and nothing I don't do makes anyone happy so I may as well work with people the best way I can On your own, on my own at midnight In my balustrade

That's the thing that the infusion for the project When I first start, it's buying the power tools, buying the cement mixer Getting the cement from Wix You don't need your own cement mixer It's a, it's not a mix, it's like one of those hand mixes rather than a full, you know, a big old barrel cement mix. I don't work with cement enough to need it. That's it, though. This year has been my China of 2019 or whatever.

You know, I've used more cement than... Is it your own... Are you embarking upon your own belt and road initiative? I am, yeah, I am. And if I've still got some left, I'll do the back porch as well, so lovely. Would you like to... Can you imagine a world where you'd be working... more with cement?

No, I think it's, I think I find it duplicitous. It oozes out everywhere. It hardens. It hurts your hands because it's so alkaline. Is it quite, is it quite corrosive? I think it really can damage your hand quite nastily. You've got to be careful. And you shouldn't be inhaling the stuff as well.

You don't like the old silicosis, or whatever they call it. I'm not doing any of it. I don't think I've ever knowingly worked with a single iota of cement in my whole life. No, I want to. I want to be able to get... I found in, like, I was clearing out an old cupboard. Find a little... You know when you clear out an old cupboard and you just find...

I mean, you'll be doing it now because you're seeking to move house. But, like, I think with stuff that you find in cupboards, it's endlessly fascinating the stuff you bought in the past. Yeah, you get sidetracked. You just get sidetracked. You do pictures, magazines, all kinds of stuff you sort of find. And I found two cement statues I bought when... I was on radio money of the barbican centre.

Two little cement, like, not particularly well-rended either. It was just interesting because it was like, oh, somebody's made that. And in this world of quite disposable Chinese manufacturing, somebody has just made this little kind of Etsy. Where do you reckon that was from? You actually bought that at the barbican? No, I think it was from Etsy. I think I bought like three or four and gave away a couple of presents.

But, yeah, a nice little bit of kit. But you do, I think we're one of those. With that size of cement, it's got to be quite special cement. And also, you've got to sort of get all the bubbles out of it using, like, you know, one of those muscle vibrators that you can buy pheragons? If you've got to have like a little, if you've got a little sort of cast cement, you've got to get all the bubbles out, or their sort of crack or just cork all stroubles. And, yeah, get your geese.

Oh, like when you're firing clay in a kiln or something? Yeah, get your theragon, and it sort of vibrates the, or you can just tap it, I suppose, to get all the bubbles to the top while it's still liquid, and then you won't have any troubles. I'm excited to work with more cement I'm also going to get some rebar as well to strengthen the wall have a bit of that

What does that involve? It's just metal metal wire Basically like thick metal wire that goes in every Oh yeah Well you can instill that after the fact can you No no after the fact No when I'm filling the the cavities with cement

I'll give a bit of rebar as well And that can that can make the Top of a little temporary fence for To avoid Daughter from falling falling through the sky. Yeah, that would be suboptimal, I think. It would be.

Speaking of getting sidetracked in the attic, my mum asked if I put, they got back from holiday and they want me to put their suitcases back up in the attic for them, which I was happy to do. And I went up there. And I found a plastic bag full of old, like, programs of things that me and my sister had done as kids.

Oh, right. What, as in like, like acting and stuff. Well, there was this one where I was the deputy stage manager for the school production. Which is every bit of... Of what school...

What was the production? The production was Smike, which is the kind of musical version of Nicholas Nickleby. That's right. Yes, okay, yeah. Nice. Yeah, it's quite funny. I mean, obviously, I'm looking back

and I think I was desperate to be in it, but I was too frightened. Same hair, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I was gutted once. it started because I was just like, well, I've been let myself down here. I could have been in this. I could have done a role in this.

Yeah, because I don't reckon the standard looking back on it would have been that high. It's a school play. There was lads who were like later got, like, who were the most timid, sort of nervous kind of, um, lads who would end up going to Cambridge to read, like, advanced mathematics and stuff. They weren't like, you wouldn't say they were, like, born to razzle and dazzle, but they just had the sheer arrogance of being the cleverest Latin school. just sort of go, I'm going to be in guys and dolls.

I'm going to do this. And it's that level of sort of, aren't the big I am that really sees you through life, in my opinion. Well, there was this, yeah, there was this, in this Smyke production, the kid who played the main character was like the naughtiest kid

in school. Yeah. And they'd obviously given him the chance to do it to kind of get them on the straight and narrow. But it's a big risk. Because people, It is a big risk, and it's kind of like, why should we have to watch the rehabilitation of a boy? I'm here to watch Nicholas Nickleby. Which is ironically about the rehabilitation of a boy.

I haven't read it, I can't remember. But I think in hindsight I would have loved to have been in it. I was Kinicky in Greece, but that was just really for drama. Yeah. Did you do it at like 30 when just in tribute to the thing? I'm doing it at the moment. Doing it at the moment. Yeah.

They should do that as a little joke. Just have a really. old Kinnekeen. That would be very problematic. You didn't pass a CRB check. Not in a school, but like in a West End production of Greece. Just have, just have like a really old Connecticut. That's a little inside joke.

Played by one of those Pete and Baz guys. Yes, lovely. Are they still all right? They're having trouble, aren't they? Yeah, one of them got, I think one of them had like an episode because he got stuck on a... What's the thing that they hook you on stuff so you can fly? Like a harness, kind of thing. Harness, you got stuck on one of those?

Yeah, I think he lost a bit of a bit auction to his old noggin. It looked like deliberate. Hey, speaking of rappers, Luke, we went to, um, we went to, uh, the, the death place of Tupac. You know, speaking of rappers.

Speaking of rappers. Now, dang, dink, ding, ding, ding, ding. Dink, ding, ding, ding. You went to the death of, you went to the deaf site of who? Of Tupac. He was shot in Las Vegas.

I had no idea. And it was really close to our hotel, really close to the horseshoe. Um, Yeah, it was after a boxing match, well, there was a Tyson fight, I think. Oh, was it, right. I wonder where that was. Yeah.

Yeah. So it makes sense, because I think he probably would have gone to the fight, and I think he was shot after the fight. Right, okay. So what's there, then? What's kind of, what's there for the tour? A 7-Even and a lot of people just drawing on the pavement. There's no flowers or plaque or anything?

Not really, no, no, no. I guess you don't want to celebrate a death site, do you? You're all, executes. But a plaque would be appropriate, wouldn't it? I don't know, really. I mean, people are sort of, you know, people are just sort of putting up pictures of them and stuff and just scribbling Tupac lyrics on the floor constantly. Tadious, isn't it? I do get it and I totally understand that Tupac is popular and was a pretty decent rapper and a pretty decent artist.

But like, it's over the top. It's over the top. Yeah. Basically because of it, because of his obviously untimely death and stuff. Yeah. But, yeah, he's an interesting kind of life story. His mum was quite a prominent Black Panther, I think. Right, yeah. He seemed to be a cut above everyone else, didn't he, sort of stylistically?

Yeah, that's what people, yeah, I mean, look, what do I fucking know? But he's not, he wouldn't be in my top five kind of rappers or whatever, but, I mean, it's just personal taste, I suppose. What about that one? I ain't mad at you. That's too, Pat, yeah. I ain't mad at you. That song that they, he just shows, like, kooky little, songs on the 80s, didn't he's, you know,

da-da-da-da-da-da, there's just the way it is. Changes. Bruce Hornsby in the rain, yeah, that's changed. Yeah. He's done some good stuff. I reckon he's done some good stuff. I like that bit, that bit in the song I like. That song's called Changes, and it's decent. Yes, it is. It always used to be on, I am manager and changes.

Was it Changes 2? For some reason, I think he called it weirdly Changes 2. I've got that and stuck in the back of my head. That was always on the Box TV back in the day. It was definitely, yeah. Yeah, it was. Just repeat. Music television. control.

Exactly. And the one, I got five on it. Loonies, yeah. That one. Everyone, that's a big Mandela effects on because everyone talks about that

being Cyprus Hill, but it's not. No, Cyprus Hill would, they don't talk about, I got five on it. It is the weird thing, I suppose,

isn't it? So, yeah. The, they would always, I think I spoke about this before, but they would, in the video,

they famously play chess in front of the pool, and I'm fairly certain. Not being a chessman myself, but I remember when I was a kid going, that's not, they've not set those chess pieces properly.

That doesn't make any sense. That's an oversight. That's no way to start the game. I don't think anybody in set had ever played chess. Terrible. What I would say about I've got five on it is that it's a brilliant song. And it really, really comes across just how passionate they are about weed.

Like, it's like a proper love song about weed. Like you can't fault the passion for it. It's like properly authentic. No, like I remember the last time I heard it came on shuffle. in my car and I was like

man this is so authentic but you'd be impossible to make a song this good if he didn't really love weed that was my takeaway and I saw Cypress Hill it's a brilliant it's a brilliant I saw Cyprus Hill about 18 months ago and they were fucking really good as well

yeah but I mean they love weed but they're a bit more insane clown posse about it aren't they're a bit cheek cheek lads I mean I would say there are a couple of levels above insane clown posse but I get the internet

I get the internet well is it did Cyprus Hill make their own sort of music festival that follows of Cyprus Hill um

paint their faces don't think so no probably not the criticism I'd like to throw at Tupac's door or lay his door would be that it's something that you can kind of

lay a lot of hip-hop artists around that time and it kind of still goes on a bit now as well is like there's a lot If you, this is potentially problematic by, for me saying this, because I'm not an expert in the genre at all. But I think that hip-hop music generally has got an issue with the sheer amount of songs you get on an album.

Right, yeah, okay, fine. It's just a lot of fucking dross, a lot of filler in these records. So if you take like two, two packs most, I think, I think I'm right in saying this most successful record, which is all eyes on me. it's got like something like 28 songs on it that's too many

songs it's too many it's too many songs it's like a hour it's like a two hour record and I think

you know even like even like the I would say like the classic classic hip pop records

like um we think of one like doggy star for example fine that's got like a couple of skits

on it and stuff it's like a 19 track album yeah but it's like it's like a lot of punk punk albums as well you're like I remember the three songs on the album and you're like Jesus Christ

Outcome the Worlds by Rancid after track 10 just goes off the boil completely It's a really interesting one that because Rancid obviously really highly rated and a lot of their songs are quite short and they've got a low that record is really good but that's like

20 songs long that record I know I know the songs that some of the songs are pretty short but it's for a punk record it's long yeah yeah it's a I don't think they have the, I don't know, they don't have the musical intelligence to carry that, I think, if you're doing the same thing over and over again for 20, 20 songs,

and the only thing you've got to say for it is it's got a long bass solo in one of them, I think that's great, it's good. I simply do not want to hear a bass solo. We've spoken about Maxwell murder before. Like, it's a hell of a bass solo, but again, I agree with you, you don't want to hear a bass solo. I don't really like bass solos. I don't really like drum solos.

I do not like saxophone solos. There are a couple of exceptions. I was once told by a guy, when I worked in the music for a bit, I was once told by a kind of old grey beard in music that any song that starts with a saxophone solo is the sign of a very confident songwriter, and you should respect it. And the examples he listed were Careless Whisper by George Michael

and Waiting for a Starter for by Board Meets Girl. Okay, nice. excellent songs. Yeah. But as a general rule, I don't want to hear a sax solo. No, completely agree. I'm going back that.

If you've taken one thing from this episode that's now mercifully coming to an end, please do take away that those type of solos are a bad thing generally. Though we have run long, like all the great albums. We have a little bit long. Yeah, people are fucking out.

Oie, practice what you preach. Well, our recording session will be 132 minutes long, like the Tupac album. We'll be back on Thursday. Monday. It's Thursday today. It's there's a day. We'll be back on Monday, sorry, the 27th of April. I don't think you need to give the date.

Yeah, I don't. But I see it and I read it. It's not a doctor's appointment, is it? That's very much the... I've got a cancer like two appointments tomorrow because I'll bring it around. Tell us about that on Monday. I'll tell you about that on Monday. Tata. The Luke and Pete Show is a stack production and part of the ACAST creator network.