The Luke and Pete Show - Jordan v Donaldson

Episode Date: June 18, 2020

On today’s show Luke opens up about his toenail problem, we have a crack at diagnosing what on earth is going on with Prince Charles’ hands and Pete wonders whether he could outrun Michael Jordan......We’re also reminiscing about Big Brother and its role in the evolution of reality TV.Plus, Metallica, rockstar riders, Bill Murray and more on The Anarchist Cookbook. We’d love to hear from you! Get in touch here: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or your preferred podcast provider. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Luke and Pete show. It is a Thursday. I do hope you're faring well. Might be raining where you are. Might be sunny where you are. We just don't know because we can't see your lives. And we are recording it this early. But I do hope you're having a good week. Luke, are you having a good week? Yeah, kind of. But do you ever get that thing on your little toe so the toenail on your little toe where the right the very outside slice of your toenail kind of breaks off and it sticks yeah so she is off yeah yeah that's happening to me an awful lot recently to the point where i'm wondering if i'm getting enough of a certain vitamin but i don't know what vitamin it is
Starting point is 00:00:39 right okay so it kind of ticks possibly calcium yeah calcium. Yeah, I see what you mean. It's like a slice of actual nail, isn't it, that kind of peels off? Yeah, 100%. It gets caught on stuff. Has that never happened to you before? No, it does. Listen, look, let's get into it. Let's roll our sleeves up and get into it. I think it's probably generally happened to me once every six months.
Starting point is 00:01:03 The frequency has increased. That's what I'm saying. It's probably gone to maybe once every every six months. The frequency has increased. That's what I'm saying. It's probably gone to maybe once every couple of months now. I think it might be because I'm maybe spending too much time indoors. What do you think about that? Maybe. Or it could be you're just running too much. You do do a lot of running.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I'll tell you that is not true. Way more than me. Way more than me. Yeah, but I've not run. I mean, I do run a bit, but there has definitely been periods in my life where I've run a lot more than me way more than me yeah but I've not run I've not run I mean I do run a bit but I don't there has definitely been periods in my life where I've run a lot more
Starting point is 00:01:28 than I'm running at the moment but I'm also older I suppose just look after yourself yeah here's my body falling apart hello at lukeandpetecher.com let us know
Starting point is 00:01:36 did you see did you see Prince Charles' hands yeah I don't like it I don't like it I found it difficult to look at yeah
Starting point is 00:01:44 it looks looks a bit livery Yeah, it looks a bit livery, doesn't it? It looks a bit like the hands of a gin abuser. The amateur doctors on the WhatsApp group that we share, Pete, there was talk of arthritis, talk of gout. I mean, what's your take? Some people said there's arthritis my dad because there's also a picture um where the prince had to take his shoes off because he was i think in a mosque or something he was somewhere uh and he was picked with his feet off and his with his shoes off and his feet are bulbous um yeah and my dad's got arthritis
Starting point is 00:02:20 in everything he's got near my joint he's got it um and and there's no there's not a lot of swelling um and certainly the swelling is only on on on the joint areas anyway um but his his toes just go in weird directions like his his um on the the toe on his left foot just starts has started to i think try and find another foot to be on because it's just on going to the completely to the left it's like get a complete right angle. It's fascinating really. And he's got, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:48 bunions and all that nonsense, but there's no, it's not like the whole foot is swelling. It looks like he's been dredged out of a bloody lake. Horrible. So yeah, Prince Charles, the official line has been in the past on Prince Charles's fingers that he
Starting point is 00:03:00 suffers from swollen joints and stuff and fingers when he travels long haul. But I don't know if that explains, but I don't know if that was, I don't know when that photo that surfaced over the last weekend was where it, when it was taken. So it's difficult to say,
Starting point is 00:03:14 but I mean, should we be worried about the air to the throne, Peter, at this point? I think we should be worried about the air to his feet. It looks like they haven't seen it. There's some definite. I've not seen his feet. I've only seen his hands. Yeah. His feet, his feet are even worse. It looks like they haven't seen it. There's some definite... I've not seen his feet.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I've only seen his hands. Yeah, his feet are even worse. It's like proper water retention. It's like he's pregnant. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I guess long haul, the pressure does do stuff to your body, doesn't it? Because it's like,
Starting point is 00:03:37 obviously you get your DVT and stuff. Remember when I was in that plane and I squirted a... This is a horrible story. It's not a horrible story. I'm just saying I had a blister that while... So you poured a kettle of water on your fucking own foot. Making a delicious pot noodle the day before I went on holiday.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Ruined the whole thing, thank you. And it went... And the pressure increased the size of the swelling and then I burst it over a Hasididic jewish woman's um foot which probably as i said as i said at the time a literal hate crime i should have 15 days in prison like that man who weeded the snow i think we can all agree with that as long as you've got access to recording straight and i'm on board with that straight me right out wouldn't it but hey i was learning how to um make a kettle uh because obviously ramen is um is one of like the biggest
Starting point is 00:04:25 uh what do you call it like uh currencies in prison certainly in american prisons and how to make like a little stinger um uh like a little stinger um uh something to boil water effectively like a vessel of boil water you just need two metal two pieces of metal two bits of rubber to keep the two pieces of metal separate uh and literally just a cord that connects to the wall. But you did a vessel, right? Say again? Yeah, I mean, people have vessels. People have cups.
Starting point is 00:04:57 You just put it in a cup, don't you? Yeah. So yeah, fascinating how to make hot water in prison. So when you do eventually go to prison, you'll also have to work out how to make a grilled cheese and a radiator as well exactly yeah that's part of it because you know that like um i'm fascinated by the the things that used to come out back in the day about oh if you do this you can do that and a lot of it obviously came from prison and one of the ones is the um the batteries right the rechargeable batteries so where if you you
Starting point is 00:05:23 apparently you i don't know if this is true and you'll be able to tell me but the talk was that if you store your batteries that are non-rechargeable batteries if you store them on the radiator when you're not using them and you can um get a lot more life out of them oh right okay i think that's i'm fairly certain that's a um that's a kind of prison technique to get longer life out of your batteries. Another one is that if you don't want someone to find your mobile phone, pop it up your bum. Pop it up your bum, Mum.
Starting point is 00:05:50 In a condom, preferably. More hygienic. More hygienic. Did you see those guys in prison who were streaming on, I want to say, Periscope. I think they were streaming on Periscope or maybe TikTok or something. Is that still going? I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I think so. Good luck to them. They were streaming on Periscope, like showing off talking about being in prison and stuff. And then the official account of the prison that they were in popped up in the comments going, did you really think we weren't going to find this? Was that in the UK? It was in the US. All did you really think we weren't going to find this? Was that in the UK?
Starting point is 00:06:26 It was in the US. All right, that's funny. Where literally everyone is in prison for money. It's funny because it's true, I'm afraid. It's funny because it's true. Slavery never went away.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I hope you enjoy your license plates. What else have you been doing this week? Because I've read a really interesting, I'm going to completely change trains now because some of your quotes there are problematic. I'm going to flip to Big Brother. Right, okay. So I read an article earlier this week about Big Brother
Starting point is 00:07:01 because I think it might be some kind of anniversary of the first series in the UK. And there's interviews of people who've been on it, people who won it and everything. And the reason I thought I'd talk to you about it is because when Big Brother first happened, it was absolutely gigantic, wasn't it? And I think plenty of our listeners won't be old enough to remember, but I literally remember, I think it was in 2000 the first one i literally remember my some of my friends leaving
Starting point is 00:07:30 the pub early to go home and watch it yeah which is unprecedented like at that point unless it was you know a football game but obviously that would be on very little appointment television these days isn't it especially i guess nowadays i guess nowadays you can kind of time shift stuff and record stuff exactly but when i first watched watched it, when it first came out, I was quite fascinated by it. Were you the same? Yeah, yeah. I wasn't quite into it as much as I was when I think it was just before
Starting point is 00:07:55 I'd gone to university, I think. So I kind of missed the first two seasons. But then I think when I got to university, I got into it a bit more. But the idea i mean the reason that another reason i want to talk about it because we're used to what reality tv is now right and it's a very very large very scripted yeah exactly it's hugely scripted usually telegraphed it's manipulated it's edited really weirdly um there's there's a it's kind of interesting just to go off on a slight tangent, there's this reality show called
Starting point is 00:08:25 90 Day Fiancé, which Mimi and I watch quite a lot of, right? And it's about these people who want to marry Americans, but they've got 90 days to kind of get them to propose to them. It's kind of the scripted kind of manufactured nonsense. It's actually quite exploitative as well, so I do have a problem with it in some cases. But they
Starting point is 00:08:41 have a spin-off show, right, called 90 Day Fiancé Pill fiance pillow talk where all the couples that have been on the show that are still together watch it's like a goggle box version so they will then watch the new series right are you with me so far but the point is right the pillow talk episode all the couples that have been on it before they all get on really well like they're obviously they're having a lovely time they're still married they're just it's just like a nice couple watching tv together right but the obviously the editing in the series that they're actually in makes it out of like oh my god they hate each other they're always having massive fights aren't they going
Starting point is 00:09:14 to stay together and what they've done which i think is a first in variety tv is they've created a spin-off which undermines their main show which I think is quite a big play. A high-risk maneuver, I would say. That's absolutely fine. Well, I'm glad that they're still together. Or maybe they've got one eye on being on this show. And then it needs to stay together long enough to actually watch it.
Starting point is 00:09:37 To milk it, yeah, exactly. But Pete, the point about Big Brother is that before reality TV became this path to fame for its own sake, this stuff didn't exist if you if you know what i did is i went back and i watched some highlights of the first season which is one by a guy called craig this normal kind of builder guy he ends up winning and the reason he went on the show in the first place it came out afterwards is because he wanted to raise awareness of one of his family friends who was was this lady who had Down syndrome, who was awaiting an operation, and they needed to raise some money.
Starting point is 00:10:08 That's why he went on it. But there was no expectation that he was going to have some kind of public career after that. He wanted to go back and be a builder. And if you watch the TV show back from then, I think it's 2000, it is so slow-paced, and it is much more a social experiment. They only have those kind of challenges and tasks once a week. I think by the end of the run, they're doing them not twice a day
Starting point is 00:10:35 and they're purposely trying to kind of get controversy, but they weren't doing it then. Back then it was a much more kind of social experiment. No, no, it's fascinating. I came from Europe and you'd be like, this is so cool and interesting. You can watch it 24-7. Did it come from the Netherlands, Pete, originally?
Starting point is 00:10:51 I think, I believe it did. It was Endemol, wasn't it? My ex-girlfriend used to work on it. Oh, right. She used to be in the camera runs. She was a runner. Yeah, so my friend, it was a cameraman on it as well. But I think as the budget started to get slashed,
Starting point is 00:11:06 I think they went a lot more kind of autonomous cameras after that. Oh, right, like robotics. Robotics. There was like a... But if you go back and look up, we're used to these really palatial, kind of beautiful mansions
Starting point is 00:11:19 that they stayed in in the later series. And pretty much every other reality TV show, the house always looks beautiful. The first Big Brother house looks like a fucking shed. It's disgusting. Yeah, it's not great. They started off by wanting to see basically how humans would react in this environment, right?
Starting point is 00:11:36 It wasn't about trying to tie in with a newspaper and get the biggest controversies you could because there was a lot of unsavoury stuff towards the end of it, wasn't there? There was racism problems there were kind of like issues around like consent as well i think i remember there were all sorts of controversies later on when it became evident that it became a it was becoming a path to fame for its own sake so you were getting certain types of people applying to be on it which which then it became something completely different. But I really wanted to stress that back at the start, it was actually quite a completely revolutionised TV, would you say?
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yeah, yeah, massively. And also, I mean, there were shows a little bit like that, but nothing quite so, what do you call them, punk rock. Not quite so, like, yeah, it was a social experiment and it lived up to its name, I think it's fair to say. Yeah, absolutely absolutely Peter, and what have you by the way, the other thing I wanted to ask you was
Starting point is 00:12:33 have you been to a non-essential shop yet because now you officially can Oh yeah, there's like a clothes shop they're never going to reopen that, although I think someone's licensed the name so you can buy stuff online but I mean nobody went to Maplin's because they wanted it tomorrow
Starting point is 00:12:50 they went to Maplin's because they wanted to pay £20 more than they needed to and they wanted it the same day which is not something that Amazon can always do you've just described the frantic run to a local Maplin's ahead one hour from Curtin at a Ramble Live show.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Oh, yes, for a DVI to HDMI converter. Talk to me a bit more about that. Went to PC World in the end, managed to get one. All good. What does it do? No dramas. Stand down, everyone. And it worked. What does it do? Converts DVI. Is it really a DVI? What's a DVI?
Starting point is 00:13:25 a display port either way we need to connect a Mac to an old projector that we were not we gave them our runner we gave them our setup they did not provide the rider they did not we should have asked for the brown M&M's
Starting point is 00:13:39 we should have asked for the brown M&M's that's one of the great that's one of the great kind of misnomers about rock stars, isn't it? Yeah. Do you think pitching everyone knows that? I would say it's a pretty popular little, oh, well, actually, kind of story. Do you mind me saying it just to sound clever?
Starting point is 00:14:01 Mate, get involved, get involved. Yeah. So when rock stars ask for ridiculous demands on their rider ahead of a gig or a tour they're doing it to make sure that the people responsible for reading it and implementing it are paying attention properly hence they'll say stuff like we must have this brand of bottled water so when the when the artist turns up and the crew and the and the and the and the people who are working with the artists turn up and they walk into the dressing room for the first time if they see the brand of water they asked for they know that it's being taken care of properly and brown m&ms are just a kind of part of
Starting point is 00:14:33 that so it's a test really but i also like to think that back in the day that that rock artists were also insane so it plays in quite nicely to that too yeah exactly i mean yeah and also um drug addiction manifests itself in a lot of different weird ways i would say also if you're if you're on meth you get very obsessive about things and that's kind of similar yeah have you said pete have you heard um that um crooked show wind of change yet i've still not i've still not indulged to be honest because i know i'll just have to devour it in all one in in one sitting um i'll get around to it there's a really brilliant bit where they they they kind of this um this guy hosts a um a uh massive concert in moscow for the some of the biggest uh metal artists or rock artists in the u.s to go over to russia and play to a load of russian uh music fans
Starting point is 00:15:26 and it's done under the guise of uh music i can't remember the exact name but something like rock against drugs or something like that so it's essentially done to promote clean living among young people so no booze in no drugs that kind of stuff you know the usual kind of sick of yeah kind of um i can't think of the word for it but like the usual kind of um sanctimonious kind of stuff but the brilliant bit about the whole whole part of bringing it up is that is because they get quite a lot of audio from the plane traveling over right they're all pissed they're all fucking hammered ozzy osbourne doesn't know where he is ozzy osbourne's on it fucked completely bollocks doesn't know where he is Ozzy Osbourne's on it, fucked, completely bollocks doesn't know what's going on and so it's a brilliant, amazing kind of
Starting point is 00:16:08 counterpoint to what they're actually supposed to be there for, it's worth a listen anyway I just always think of a rockstar, they're constantly fucked how do they level out? how do they get on stage and actually do something it's unbelievable I was saying the same thing the other day um metallica are
Starting point is 00:16:29 doing this thing i don't know if they're still doing it but they've been doing it under lockdown called metallica monday where they put um full footage of one of their shows online on their youtube channel right and and obviously they've probably got video footage of thousands of their shows and sometimes it'll be one from last year and it's really beautifully like hd produced and sometimes it's like stuff from back in the day and there's a legendary gig they did i think it might be in seattle around the mid to late 80s uh and um there is incredible how good they are the pace of their musicianship how accurate they are how how good they are at putting on the show and all of them are absolutely fucked it doesn't it doesn't make any sense it's incredible how they're able to do it is it just muscle memory they just
Starting point is 00:17:16 sort of like you know so many times yeah the practice mark because they had a nickname alcoholic didn't they for a large part of their their career. So it must be a certain amount of, it must be hardwired. They must have just practiced so often. But the thing is, Pete, it's not as though their songs aren't complicated. They're really complicated. No, exactly.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Yeah, no, it's one of those complicated guitars. I mean, it's not Oasis. You know, it's not a few bloody, you know, there's some bar chords involved. They know their bar chords, Luke. There's an amazing, there's an amazing, speaking of that similar era, I've told you that story about Guns N' Roses live
Starting point is 00:17:50 with Axl Rose and Slash, when they played live back in the late 80s for Welcome to the Jungle, Axl Rose did this whole build-up where he'd go, you know where you are? You're in the jungle, baby. Tell that kind of story, right? And the whole point is a little mini story finishes
Starting point is 00:18:04 with Slash doing the signature riff to welcome to the jungle which is amazing and but there's great there's some great footage on youtube of slash just being too pissed about it so it's like the biggest anti-climax you ever heard yeah yeah it's funny man it's funny anyway fantastic let's uh take a short advertorial break. If indeed there are any adverts, there might not be. You may well be hearing our voices in the next 30 seconds. You just don't know. We'll be back in a second with more Lincoln Pitcher.
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Starting point is 00:19:07 Learn more at onepeloton.ca slash running and we're back with more loco how are you doing you're right what's going on uh we'll kick off with an email from um jasper yo jasson. Hi, guys. I found it pretty funny hearing Pete referring to Steve Kerr as the little guy on the team. I actually made the same mistake in thinking he was
Starting point is 00:19:32 a shorter guy. Why is he a shorter comparatively to the other team members? He's still pretty tall in normal standards. He's six foot three. I'm so flabby.
Starting point is 00:19:41 That's a Luke Moore. Someone else pointed that out to me. Yeah. Just goes to show how insanely tall the rest of the team were. So Michael Jordan would think something 6'6 or 6'7 or something. Yeah, only. It's mad, don't it? It's mad. As you rightly pointed out in that documentary series about the Bulls,
Starting point is 00:20:01 when you see anyone from the backroom staff just talking to them in the locker room, it looks ridiculous. Oh, it looks like the bigger boys. Some little kids are hanging out with the bigger boys it's yeah it does yeah michael jordan was always like taking the piss out of that guy as well wouldn't he for being short i mean yeah but i mean no i i mean it's a it's it's it's law hanging fruit if you're six six quite literally laughing at someone for being short yeah is Yeah, there's a lot of gags in there from John calling someone short. It's like, mate, you're a basketball player. You're the freak. You're massive. Is that what you say to him?
Starting point is 00:20:34 I'd spark him right out and he wouldn't be able to chase me. I'd hit him and then I'd run away because he wouldn't be able to chase me because he smoked too many cigars. I don't think, and listen, this might be controversial, I don't think you could outrun a peak Michael Jordan.
Starting point is 00:20:49 No, not a peak Michael Jordan, but like Michael Jordan now, with his big red eyes. I think I'm probably still going to bet on Jordan now. I'm coming around to the fact that yeah, he would find me within three strides and then throw me in a sewer. Reason one, stride length.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Stride length. He'd pick me up like a basketball and throw me over a lamp most or something. I think he'd catch you with a cigar steel in his mouth. Easy days work for Jordan, for MJ. Exactly. What about this email, Pete, from Liam who says, Hello, fellas. I'm writing this email in defense of Mr.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Pete Donaldson after some digs from Luke last week about his many appearances in so-called indie bars. Me and my friend Brandon bumped into Pete in the previously mentioned on last week's show Club E4 Back or Welsh Bar. I'm happy to report Pete was more than welcoming and happy to stop for a quick chat and photo, despite me being extremely inebriated after a full day of drinking watching Crystal Palace play Cardiff City.
Starting point is 00:21:53 His story on last week's show seems to check out as he genuinely seemed to be people watching and chilling by the bar as opposed to any moshing to rage against the machine. But the only crime he could be considered guilty of is being caught holding a can of Bud Light. Oh. So, people are coming to your defence, Pete.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I saw the picture, and I mean, I don't know in the best state, but I would say that I think it sounds worse that I'm just stood by the bar. I mean, I can't hush to raise against them. I do like people hushing, but it looks a bit sharky to me.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Are you having a nice time? That's what I want to know. I'm just having a nice... I was clearly having a nice time. I'm drinking Bud Light. I mean, that's the key to a great time. So I fully respect that our listeners are jumping to your defence. That's a second email from one night of saying,
Starting point is 00:22:42 no, Pete's a great guy. He's having a good time. Leave him alone. Sounds like I was putting it about eh? Yeah but what I do want to say is. Set up a little table meet Pete Donaldson. Is it better or worse that you're just
Starting point is 00:22:54 in a bar indie bar on your own with a can of Bud Light. Yeah but I clearly wasn't on my own because clearly I was because I was with a guy called Matthew who they wouldn't have seen because he will have had to have found a seat next to me because he's got no tendons
Starting point is 00:23:10 in his knee. He's buggered his knee. We're all having a lovely time. How did they get there? I don't know. He's very slow going, I seem to recall. Anyway, Liam ends the email by saying it's however somewhat concerning that Pete's last appearance at an indie bar was a little over a year
Starting point is 00:23:26 ago and this photo was taken in May 2019 therefore I can only apologise if this encounter has scarred you for life I remember those lads they were absolutely lovely so I would not say that it's just hard to find bars that play decent music or rather music from
Starting point is 00:23:42 my from the 90s is hard to find any alien out farmer and there could have been there could have been a bit of moot could have been a bit of smooth criminal i was that listen pete i understand that i'm not showing myself up in the best light here because the the images people have got of you are that you're just having a great time having beers chatting to people in the bar and i'm sat in my own garden eating cherries from the tree i'm not coming across well here. I get that.
Starting point is 00:24:06 I'm just trying to get to the bottom of your activities. The Poppitch Mailer have got a good kind of long thread of Bill Nighy's Soho walkabout. He's a man who walks around Soho expecting to be seen and wanting to be seen. And there's like a million different little stories where he's been very friendly. But it's the sort of thing
Starting point is 00:24:26 that if you're not Bill Nighy, you can't really get away with because he's just a madman who just gets up in people's shit unnecessarily. Like when Bill Murray was doing all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Anybody else does that. You're like, get away from me, you freak. But it's Bill Murray, so you're one of the most famous people in the world. I wonder if those stories about Bill Murray are actually true.
Starting point is 00:24:47 I think they are probably true, but, you know, from what I've heard from like Scarlett Johansson and... You're not going to goldblum him, are you? You're not going to accuse him of a goldblum? I'm not goldblum him. I didn't accuse him of a goldblum. Well, I said that if goldblum was ever found to have done any impropriety at all um it's not like we could pretend that he didn't look like that
Starting point is 00:25:13 you know what I mean like his his his his acting is loose it's like a legally prepared statement that it's loose it's hypersexual, it's frequently slightly problematic on the screen, and you can only draw from what you know. Crucially, though, he's an actor, isn't he? That's acting, isn't it? Yeah, crucially. Yeah, but whenever he's doing anything, presenting anything, he's always exactly the same. He's always just trying to sort of put people at, not people at ease.
Starting point is 00:25:41 No one says, oh, that movie was great, but the actor played a paedophile, put him in jail. I don't say that to them because he's acting. I do actually say that. So I'm like one of those people who say like a, say like a sop star
Starting point is 00:25:53 in the street and want to abuse him. I can't believe what he did to Little Moore. You bastard. Yeah. But Pete, I once read an article
Starting point is 00:26:04 about, I think it was by a director who spent like several years trying to get bill murray to agree to be in one of his movies that he was making and um i think it had been like green lit and it was ready to go but it didn't have bill murray attached to it and he tried to get him and the only way he could get shouldn't have been green lit should not have been green lit yeah we don't have the talent involved. But I think the only way they could get hold of him was by leaving an answer phone message on a landline or sending a letter to a PO box.
Starting point is 00:26:32 That craft work, isn't it? It's annoying though, isn't it? Because if I had that, no one would ring. No. Yeah, you just stop getting any kind of calls. It's like when Barry from East um barry from east end is an extra his agent they go oh go to go to the itv and ross kemp and they said they said to itv with ross kemp it's a million pound or nothing and he got a million pound deal i took barry from east
Starting point is 00:26:56 end and they went for the nothing option that's what happened with me um we got a message from uh uh oliver uh thanks a lot oliver uh i'm not saying that to all of that's how he ends the email uh hi guys love the show uh just yesterday's episode you were talking about jolly rogers cookbook uh now i'm not sure this is the same as the anarchic anarchists cookbook uh published in new york in the 70s i think pretty much it is a digital version of it yeah but if not they're similar enough to be considered the same thing i think it was luke said there ought to be a documentary made about this there is it's effing brilliant it's called the american anarchist and you can watch it on netflix the story of how the book was compiled is told in an interview with the man who wrote it who is now in his 60s i believe and has moved to some small town in
Starting point is 00:27:40 southern france to live a quieter life really interesting documentary lots of difficult questions are put to him regarding how terrorists and other organizations have been proven to have used the book also you still purchase the book on amazon but uh but be prepared to be followed around by a black sedan for the rest of your days thanks yeah well i'd say it's interesting look if we've all got a gun the world is a safer place right am i right am i right guys guys? Guys, am I right? I'm pleased you finally said that on the record
Starting point is 00:28:08 because you've been saying that a lot in private. The Luke and Pete Show is the only podcast in the world that has an ear rating from the NRA, and we are proud of that. We are proud of that. We allow bump stocks. We allow AR-15s. We love all guns.
Starting point is 00:28:22 We love them. We love them. Where's this coming from? I don't know. I just wanted to finish the show with some kind of troll-like statement so that everyone complains. That's how the world works. That's why we've got good morning Britain hosts
Starting point is 00:28:35 having go at transsexual people and stuff like that. It's just the way it is. We're not going to end on that, though. We're going to end on an email from Bosley, because it's been on my list for ages. Bosley! And I keep forgetting to get to it, so we've got to end on this.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And I promise you, I planned that ahead of time. I hadn't just done that because you were annoying me. Bosley says, Hi lads, just thought I'd drop in with a song that's been used inappropriately. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Remember that? Yes, I do. I'm trying to think what the original one was, though. So the original one, I think, was Turning Japanese, which I got wrong. Apparently it's not about masturbation, but I thought it was. But anyway, Bosley says, here's a song that's been used inappropriately
Starting point is 00:29:18 during the COVID-19 crisis. The song in question is 80s UK number one hit, Don't Stand So Close To Me by The Police, a fitting title for a lockdown world at the moment. But while the song has seen increased plays over the last few months and has been used a lot in television, at least here in Australia, the actual meaning of the song is a lot more sinister. As per its Wikipedia article, the song deals with the mixed feelings
Starting point is 00:29:40 of lust, fear and guilt that a female student has for a school teacher and vice versa, an inappropriateness leading to confrontation which is unraveled later in the song essentially the song accusations fly yeah essentially the song's chorus devolves into the teacher telling the student to not stand so close to me as they cannot control themselves or simply wish to keep their relationship more of a secret in public something sting has admitted publicly is the actual basis for the song. I mean, Bosley hasn't included this in this email, but this becomes even more problematic when you realise that Sting
Starting point is 00:30:10 was a teacher before he was a singer. Anyway, he was a teacher at my school for a bit, even though he's from your neck of the woods, Pete. Anyway, he said it's just interesting that a song that's been used to remind the public to social distance is actually just a catchy tune about something a lot more sinister. I would also add to that, Pete, Every Step You Take by The Police as well is regularly used as a first dance
Starting point is 00:30:32 song. In fact, it's one of the most requested first dance songs, but it's actually about a stalker. Oh, okay. So this happens a lot, I think, when it comes to The Police. It's got some real darkness, hasn't it? Ironically, given their name. You should be investigated.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Oh, well, that is interesting, I suppose. Yeah, I mean, I, I,
Starting point is 00:30:49 I, I, I, I, I, you know, I, I worked for Absent Radio for nine years.
Starting point is 00:30:52 I, I, I did know that story, but, uh, it's, um, showing off.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Very interesting. Showing off. What else are you going to do for four hours? No, what's that song about? Oh, nonsense. Good.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Cool. Move on. I've heard, I've heard. I've heard your show. I genuinely didn't realise you were paying attention. I certainly wasn't and that's why I'm now no longer
Starting point is 00:31:12 on the radio either. Right. Shall we wrap this up? All right then. Let's get out of here. Thank you very much for listening to Luke and Pete. That's it for another week.
Starting point is 00:31:21 We hope you have a lovely weekend. We hope you have something enjoyable to do. Now the world appears to slowly, tentatively be coming back to normal. Fingers's it for another week. We hope you have a lovely weekend. We hope you have something enjoyable to do. Now the world appears to slowly, tentatively be coming back to normal. Fingers crossed
Starting point is 00:31:29 it stays that way. We'll be back on Monday with more of this and we'll look forward to that as well. Shout out Katie Baxter again. Shout her out twice in one week
Starting point is 00:31:37 for her amazing job on the edit front and the production front. Keep it Stakhanov. Keep it K-Bax. And we'll catch up with you again next week alright then
Starting point is 00:31:45 peace out This was a Stakhanov production

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