The Luke and Pete Show - Just a bit of knockabout fun

Episode Date: April 4, 2024

Luke comes in hot with tortoiseshell cat facts and impressive goblin knowledge, claiming the title of Dungeon Master. Elsewhere, Pete stumbles across the least vegetarian thing you could possibly do.Plus, the boys discuss meat jelly and Luke has a new book club entry!Want to get in touch with the show? Email: [e-mail] or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow. Follow us @thelukeandpeteshow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Good morning everyone, good afternoon everyone or good evening everyone. This is the Luke and Pete Show on Thursday the 4th of April. I'm Pete Donaldson, I'm joined by Mr. Lukey Moore. Lukey Moore, how the devil are you? What's going on? How you doing? I'm alright, what's new? Absolutely chomping through a load of Easter eggs. We never have Easter eggs in the house over Easter, and for some reason we've gained access to about three or four Easter eggs. So I'm absolutely hard to the Ds on chocolate Easter eggs. Has anyone been sick in the house yet, including one of the dogs? No, very little. I did, yeah, I'm not starting with talking about poo stuff, but I did have to pull a poo out of Lola's bum about five minutes ago.

But don't worry, I've washed my hands. Yeah, did you wear gloves? No, I was just wearing a bin bag, a little doggy poo bag on my hand. Wearing a bin bag. Wearing a bin bag. Oh, dear. Some kind of performance art, was it?

Yeah. It's been a busy old few days. Popped up to Sarah's parents, or rather brother, which is very much not a parent. No, it's different. Different family role, isn't it? Different family role, isn't it? Different family role they do.

And we had like a sort of Easter celebration, Easter egg hunt and stuff like that, and watched a bit of the football. Frank Champion, good to see him but he was a bit put out by the fact that Newcastle had absolutely done over West Ham at the weekend. Did you find any Easter eggs Peter? Did everyone encourage you? Well they've got a big old

garden so I found one on a swing. I found Easter egg on a swing. In my mind you have taken it really seriously, and night has fallen, the darkness has drawn in, and you are still on your hands and knees going around the garden like a truffle pig, snuffling everything out.

With night vision goggles, like Splinter Cell or something like that. With the hobgoblin hobgoblin. And I've made my own camo that just fits with the garden in which I'm in. Luke, have you seen the Marriott carpet, Cult of the Marriott carpet at Dragon Con? Yeah, that's a big deal. It's a big part of the whole thing. They did change it recently, though.

Yeah, and obviously, I mean, it's an astonishing Wetherspoons-esque carpet. So if you're unfamiliar um the people who go to dragon con um are um obsessed with a particular carpet that was in the marriott where the dragon con takes place um some people dressed up as the carpet like made sort of camouflage versions of like um militia uh garb with the marriott carpet kind of design on it and then the Marriott threatened to take them to court because they'd made the design publicly available online basically for you to kind of modify and use yourself and so rather amusingly that just enhanced um strisland effect um style just enhanced the uh the the the legacy or the um the hobbob around the marriott carpet and and so like um people would sort of start like the

cult of the marriott carpet and every time people went to dragon con these kind of like people go en masse wearing marriott carpet uh designs and flags and stuff like that it's it's a lovely bit of work and it all um happened because the marriott got upset that someone was putting their designs on the carpet online when i was there um there were two guys dressed like it and they were lying on the carpet yeah sort of yeah with um you know with all the kind of outfit on exactly the same design my mate um my mate ed sent me a um a little piece about a man who um he's a bit of a meme in the gun world a meme in the militia militia world is there a militia world i don't know do you want to be in it's it's just um like a right

channel i suppose isn't it but like they um they're basically uh there's a guy who um rubbed gun metal grease uh sorry sorry gun grease on his cheeks for some reason and he became a bit of a meme and so they've designed I think the camouflage that incorporates this man going ooh rubbing gun grease on his face I love that the gun people can

meme too. They can going back to the hobgoblin thing Pete a little update on that for those who don't quite remember Pete was fired from a radio station for having the hobgoblin hobgoblin thing, Pete, a little update on that. For those who don't quite remember, Pete was fired from a radio station for having the hobgoblin hobgoblin on show for an hour and a half, talking about his divorce. And our listener and friend, Sean, tweeted us off the back of that episode, saying, my old engineering teacher left to do acting

and had a big stint as the hobgoblin hobgoblin. He did a wedding for karang and everything was he a small welsh guy called rob to which you replied saying he wasn't gigantic so very well could have been it was around 2007 and sean said yeah it could have been about then wow so basically we've outed the hobgoblin hobgoblin as our listener and friend sean's um ex-engineering teacher which does track because it's the kind of thing you would be teaching if you were the Hobgoblin Hobgoblin. I think so.

And as the old saying goes, if you can't do it, teach. And if you can't teach, Hobgoblin. If you can't teach, go and target some lager drinkers and take the piss out of them. Exactly. Scared you'd taste something. That's quite exciting that we've figured out who the Hobgoblin is. I'd love to get him on the show for another hour and a half,

and then I'll fire you from this show. Yeah. Good on. Very good. It'd be the Luke and Hobgoblin show. I tell you what, Hobgoblin, the decision makers who do advertise Hobgoblin are listening.

The Euros is coming up. That's all I'm saying. Do you want to get people to drink Hobgoblin, the decision makers who do advertise Hobgoblin are listening. The Euros is coming up. That's all I'm saying. Do you want to get people to drink Hobgoblin beer throughout the Euros? Do you want a pint of Hobgoblin to be thrown at a screen in Germany? Do you want that? Do you want the Football Ram of Broadcasting live from Berlin in the Hobgoblin cave? We're talking about live actuations, guys.

Put your money where your mouth is. Put your hob where your goblin is. Let's do this. Let's talk. So the Hobgoblin apparently is a household spirit appearing in English folklore, so he would live in your house. Right. He wouldn't be particularly cave-dwelling, I wouldn't say.

The Berlin Marriott? Could the Hobgoblin get involved in the whole Marriott carpet thing? Would you like to stay in the Remada Rilling Croydon for the entirety of the Euros and pop in every so often to try and sell some of your beer? I don't know if I've ever had a bottle of Hobgoblin. No, I don't think I have either, to be honest. It's one of those things that I sort of go, know what it's like the iron maiden brew i sort of go it's not for me

i just know it's not for me the trooper is it a lager that feels like a lager no it's an ale man is it an ale right they do it lager as well i think right but i just get the sense that yeah because like the other day um like john our mate john was saying to me oh i was drinking um the trooper lager it's actually really good right and i was like it's very difficult for me to imagine myself in a situation where i'm gonna utter the words yeah i'll try a part of the trooper lager and i love iron maiden i've got no beef with them. I think their Trooper beer is actually very successful, obviously because it's curated and developed by Bruce Dickinson, who is one of the world's most celebrated polymaths.

So it's not surprising he could do that as well. But I'm not sure there's any lager needed as well. It was always for sale on the roof of the Sanctum Hotel in Mayfair. And it was basically this guy set up a hotel and he wanted to make it like a rock and roll hotel. And those kind of ones are always a bit tragic and they're always like, you know, guitars on the walls. And he made a big thing of sort of going,

there's 10, he was like proper like a Vic Reeves character. There's 10,000 different channels of pornography on the television. And in every hotel room, there's a box of fun items for you and your good lady partner to get involved in. It's just like sex toys and stuff. What is happening here? It was a rock and roll hotel. Don't throw the telly out the window.

Oh, God. Hobgoblin, hobgoblin in every room. Hobgoblin in every room. And when you walk in, he just goes, Privy Master, are there any chores to do for you and your lady wench? The goblin doesn't do chores. The goblin just hangs. I don't know what a goblin's job is, to be honest.

He's not a goblin, first of all. He's a hobgoblin which is different oh god and could he be a bit like the Grinch of those families sometimes

some of those families get the Grinch in to mess up their house before Christmas he just comes in and does absolutely disgusting farts

and then leaves you could get him to come in say some quite kind of fruity Brexit llaced opinions. Yeah. And do a really smelly beer fart. And then put on Dire Straits on the stereo,

then leave. Put Men and Motors on, leave. Put on a World War II documentary, then leave. Leave a glamour model calendar in the kitchen. Hobgoblin. And leave, yeah. That would be sensational.

I actually stayed in a rock and roll hotel in Amsterdam once. Aye. And the reason it was because it was just convenient and fairly easily priced and it was fine. But it was a bit like, for example, every room had a Fender amp in it. Yeah. What's the point of that?

You don't want me plugging in and switching on. You just don't. And it'll be broken and it won't work. Dusty. Yeah, dusty. It'll be a cheap bit of Argos 79 quid jobbery and it basically had like a Perspect case

with a guitar in it behind the bar and like a David Bowie lyric on the wall yeah a bit of a bit of a costume the pool balls

had like treble clefs on them and that was it it's so easy to get that stuff right innit yeah but in the same breath

get it wrong have you ever stayed in the hotel Pellirocco in Brighton? No. It rings a bell, though. They have sort of like different theme rooms and stuff.

I stayed in the Dollywood one once. It was quite good. Oh, Dollywood. Dollywood seems like it'd be fun. Hasn't Beyonce released like a country album this week? She has. She's covering Jolene,

isn't she? I think so, yeah. I heard a bit of it on Six Music on fucking Marion Hobbsman and she and there was

that and it's just sad about the world and you bring in radio stations and then I slag them all off

and you have a go at me for slagging them off even though you brought them in in the first place you know what you're doing

alright but I think does she do like a kind of retort? Like she's changed the lyrics to the thing. I only heard it once and I was like,

I'm fairly certain they're not the original lyrics, to be honest. I think it might be one of those skewering the originals. There's a strong woman who doesn't give a shit about Jolene. I've not heard any of it, to be honest, but I imagine it's annoying all the right people. So, I mean, that's fine by me. Speaking of Brighton Hotels, this is a hell of a segue,

quite partridge actually, but I'm going to press on with it. I've actually just finished a book called Killing Thatcher about the Brighton bomb in the hotel during the Conservative Party Conference in 1984. Absolutely incredible story. It's by an author called Rory Carroll.

I don't know if he's written anything else but um it it's a really brilliantly told historical um narrative it's got the pace of a of like a thriller really and the cat and the countdown to the bomb going off is incredible it's really really tense and really um really readable but just just quite an interesting story anyway but also you know look if you think about it we're like we're like 40 years hence yeah it's crazy that stuff happened like it's crazy that stuff happened it's crazy that it would be a constant and and we live basically a civil war in britain that people didn't really acknowledge yeah well i did acknowledge it but i don't acknowledge

it as such now right it's more a bit like it's terrorist activity all that kind of stuff but really you know stuff that's happened in Northern Ireland then when they kind of progressed it into like stuff happening in England and in London and the rest of it the stuff that went on is I mean for some of our younger listeners absolutely horrific I mean I think I think I think I'm right in saying um the bomb in the Grand Hotel in Brighton the Brighton Grand whatever it's, only didn't kill Thatcher because she was in a slightly different room to what the bomber was expecting

and she was in the bedroom rather than the bathroom or something. And the chimney that came down tipped in a certain way. There's about three or four different sets of circumstances which meant that she wasn't killed. And she's the serving prime minister, right?

And the way that it was done was the um the timer for the bomb was set like to the minute months in advance right okay so it was behind the panel in a bath for a very very long time um designed to time and go off at the time of the conference. So people were staying in that room without even knowing there was a bomb in there. There was a live bomb in there. How did they get it in? Was it kind of like, did they dress up as like... He built it in the room. Oh, so he stayed in the room?

Yeah, he stayed in the room for like three nights. Right, okay, I see. And then the manhunt to find him was essentially like a Right, okay, I see. And then the manhunt to find him was essentially like a proper, like impressive piece of like police work because there was no CCTV of him. He did it under an assumed name and left no fingerprints.

Obviously it was so long before when he planted it that no one really remembered him going in. So yeah, I mean, it was a truly like horrific period of history like really really like violent awful i think but i think the the stuff that happened in sort of london manchester and birmingham like we all um i think a lot of people have sort of this weird kind of like rose tinted kind of like oh well you know they used to ring ring a head

didn't they you know i mean all that shit like they have this kind of idea that they weren't quite as dangerous as... But not always, because sometimes the mourners wouldn't get through quick enough or they'd be really veiled or would be quite cryptic. Yeah, it was...

Yeah, really. I mean, in a morbid way, with the greatest respect to the victims, of course, it's a fascinating period of history. And obviously we take for granted now that since the kind of late 90s with the peace process and everything we don't have to really have that kind of stuff going on in as much but it was i mean it's just i mean the scenario is just crazy like on on like on the news like norman tebbett who i think was some kind of cabinet minister at the

time might have even been the employment minister so quite a prominent politician like him and his wife were pulled out of the rubble on the news yeah and his wife was paralyzed yeah um it was yeah it's very very very like frightening horrific set of circumstances I mean fascinating it's a really good book anyway it's called I think it might have even had its name changed now but the version I've got is called Killing Thatcher by Rory Carroll worth reading

another entry into my kind of impromptu and fairly unorganised book club book club bookies book club basically far out to our listeners occasionally

but you'd enjoy it Pete it's got the pace of a thriller oh it's got it well I like I love a bit of Lakari style yeah a bit of that espionage kind of, yeah. Yeah, there's no

Japanese stuff in it though. No, that's a shame. That is a shame. Sorry to break that to you. Absolutely. Have you fully recovered from your Bulgaria trip now? Yeah, I think so.

I think my body's on a general kind of just turning to dust eventually. Are you finding after you've got over the year of 40, everything that you'd sort of brush off has not been very painful at all, just seems to just hurt more? My pain threshold has gone down massively.

I've got like a cut on my finger that every time I touch it, it's absolute agony. I've got like a cut on my finger that every time I touch it, it's absolute agony. I've got this and that going wrong. Like everything just seems to hurt more. It's not that it's going wrong more. It's just that I'm noticing the bad stuff more.

Everything just seems sore and painful. Have you got, are you a healthy person generally? No, I don't think so. Well, not generally. I get out and about. I get me dog walks i have big breakfasts i eat half an easter egg every day all the main food what's a big breakfast look like for

you these days though because people listening will be used to you having the old um leftover chinese but that's those days are gone now i actually modified a sort of bean i modified a cow i modified a cow to get in my mouth to fit in my mouth i modified a bean stew uh from hello fresh into like a breakfast egg monstrosity um you know what to hear it didn't didn't didn't do too badly to be honest it went quite well one thing i have noticed is that back in the day i used to be very cavalier with the use by date on um fruits particularly blueberries okay yeah i would just pick the fur off, wash the other ones and eat them.

And they used to sometimes get a little stomach kind of complaint. Right. But it was fine. I can't do that now. No, no pissing about it. Because obviously we've got a baby in the house now, so we have to be very careful

on use by dates and stuff anyway. But I can't be as cavalier as I used to be. I think I might've changed the bacteria in my gut by doing that. Yeah. So I have to be my can i think i might have changed the um the bacteria in my gut by doing that yeah i have to be careful on that but actually to answer your question initially yes but in the last three or four months i've been a lot healthier i've lost like 35 pounds oh yeah you're on a bit of a health kick that's made a real difference um i used to have really bad pains in my joints which I don't have anymore. I spring out of bed a lot more easily now.

I don't need as much sleep. I'm cycling every time I come home. Good, because there's none on offer for a new dad. There's none on offer. The lads have got a bit of a cold at the moment, so that's a bit different. But generally speaking, he's actually pretty good. He'll need maybe one intervention overnight,

and that's it now. So we're getting through it um and if i because i'm obviously working um the the wi-fi i have access to takes care of the lion share it out and i take him in the morning so it's kind of a bit of a mix so it's not been too bad on that front but it's been it's i think for the first six or seven months it was very very difficult it sounds like i'm making an excuse it's very difficult to stay healthy because of course if you're not getting the sleep your body's not getting the energy it needs it craves like high sugar high fat high calorie stuff because it needs to find the energy from somewhere

and i am very very happy to acquiesce to those uh yeah um requests i've i've got a lot of pork pies in the house i find there find there just seems to be a constant how does that happen I don't know I think I'm sleepwalking through the supermarket and I'm picking up it's the hobgoblin

hobgoblin it's the hobgoblin he sprinkles them everywhere the naughty hobgoblins popping bar snacks everywhere you basically go to turn your TV over

and all the buttons on your remote are replaced by little pork pies little mini pork pies and jelly a jelly up the wazoo I don't like the jelly bit

why do people find the bit why do people find the jelly sort why do people find the jelly you know why it is do you remember we went to went to kiev way back in the day before that's just butter squirting out of that that's not jelly i don't mean a chicken kiev i mean the city of kiev and you were well into all the local food there and i just found a lot of it the meat with the jelly stuff it reminded me of the food i used to have to feed our cats back in the day yeah quite anemic pink jelly covered smells yeah i think having savory jelly is not for me basically i think um it is nice what about um what about like pate the jelly you sometimes get at Christmas

on the pate which I think might be fruit jelly anyway not really natural but anything like that I like a yeah so I like

any kind of fruit jelly I like I like a pate on a piece of bread I like a terrine you know it's more it's more kind of

slightly more middle class cousin isn't it terrine terrine the terrine has got more about it. It's meat jam isn't it? Although I did have

I don't know if I told you this I once had the worst meal I've ever had and it involved a Tureen. And it not only had some leftover cling film in it but it was also wrapped in raw bacon. Right, okay.

So how does that work then? Well you tell me. Was it smoked within an inch? I didn't Was it smoked within an inch of its life? Presumably it was already cooked, the bacon, no? No. Well, how can you eat it then? I couldn't fucking eat it, and I didn't eat it, and I sent it back.

Did they not just smoke the bacon so hard that it killed all of the disease? I imagine that's what they thought they were doing. That's it before we get to the cling film. It was basically inexplicably inside it. Oh, God, they mentioned... Yeah, I mean, the cling film's a bad move, some would suggest.

Someone on a podcast was mentioning their dislike of jelly in meats. And it was the same... Basically, I, on the ramble, a little while ago, I think you were on the show, I think. And, um, it was the same. Basically I on the ramble, uh, a little while ago, I think you were on the show. I think it was on Friday.

Um, I said that Dean Gaffney looked like, um, sorry, uh, David Gandhi, the model looks like Dean Gaffney on the same spectrum as the spectrum. Yeah.

Gaffney esque, very Gaffney ish. And, uh, I was really annoyed that one of my favorite sort of five live podcasts, they said the exact same thing about a week ago. Oh, it can happen. It can happen.

It can happen. And it was that sort of parallel thinking, but I was just a bit like, oh, that's annoying that because people are going to think that I've stolen that. I steal so much other stuff from that podcast as well. What podcast is it so we know? This is the boy who cried wolf. Ellis and John, Five Live.

I didn't listen to that. Fucking hell. Fucking hell. By the way, speaking of that, by the way, Peter, sorry to cut in, but did you see, it was actually this weekend just gone, on the show that Tim Lovejoy does that you still can't read the autocue properly on.

What's it called? Saturday, Sunday Lunch Kitchen. Yeah, that kind of thing. Yeah. He accused John Robbins of being a bit slow on the uptake on that show, because I think it's live. Right. And accused him of having a hangover.

Right. I like to say, actually, a recovering alcoholic of many years. Yes. It was really, really good. Yes, I love it. I mean, to be fair, he was a bit of a sesshalod before then. So, like, I mean. Yeah, but I think that was, like, literally years ago. really yes i love it i mean to be fair he was a bit of a sessh lord before then so like i mean yeah but i think that was like like literally years ago about a year ago i think if i if i

track my podcast i listen to that podcast quite regularly and it was about a year ago that he gave up but it's uh it's it yeah that is funny especially because his show at the moment his live show is all about uh being you know oh you're right i've just looked it up he says he's been sober since November 2022. All I'm saying is, for those listening who don't know anything about TV, and good for you, I mean, fucking great, Lovejoy's going to be given a briefing note on that.

Yeah. He's not going to read it, and he's going to have been arrogant about it, and he's going to have just ploughed in and embarrassed himself on live telly, and I think that's something we can all get behind. It's very much me asking Boy George if he's going for the lamb and the chicken,

only to be told that he's very much a vegetarian and has been for a long time. Is that why he chained you to that radiator? Is that why he chained me to the radiator? Yes, until I said sorry, yeah. He did do that, didn't he? Not to me, but yeah, he did do that. He did do that, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He did chain a sex worker to a radiator. Which, I mean, unless you've agreed that that's your thing that that's what you're into i can't remember the story i only remember the select whenever like a whenever a gay sex story uh um comes out in in the tabloids it's always um treated incredibly disrespectfully on every side you know every no one's coming out of that without taking catching a few strays and uh yeah it's atrocious the way that they they deal with stuff like that but um i think the upshot was yes he chained a woman a man to a radiator for uh yeah apparently it was just it was just a um

a guy it was just a bit of fun you said a norwegian model of male escort who believed he was attending a photography session i mean that yeah okay right yeah um yeah i mean yeah it's it's 15 months in 15 months bird for that well look who's look who look who's the cage bird now look who's the change the radio ironic sentence yeah exactly um that was um that was a i just i might i i take your point completely about the way those kind of things are treated in the gay community and the rest of it. My concern then and my concern now, the initial thought I had was, he's famously a vegetarian. I just thought, it's not a very vegetarian thing to do. True, exactly.

Because presumably you're a vegetarian because you're protesting the kind of treatment of animals and their kind of incarceration to some extent. Yeah, yeah. You've basically made a battery hen sex worker there, haven't you? Yeah. Awful. Awful, man. I will partake in his eggs, but has he got room to walk about? Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. Let's have a break, Peter, on that delicate note. Because when we come back, I want to talk to you about a podcast that I've been listening to, and I think you'll enjoy it. Okay. Hi, it's Fido. Start the semester with a new phone and a plan full of data without breaking your budget.

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For fuck's sake, Peter. We'll do batteries. Oh, my goodness. We're sticking in a couple here, because that's what we've got time for. Luke says, Hello, chaps, long-time listeners to the Summer Special Days. Not sure if you've had this already.

Alehop. This was pre-installed in a handheld fan bought from Alehop at Faro Airport. Now, wow. It's a battery that has got a cow on it. Rather unhelpfully, it's got an image of an empty battery on the side of the battery yeah very bizarre and uh and it says ale hop which i presume is some kind of some kind of like

boozy supermarket maybe yeah so so the the logo on the side of it signifying an empty battery is that perhaps telling us that it's rechargeable uh or um how to dispose of it possibly it's a strange branding move yeah if you're looking to sell batteries it's not it's not it's not for booze it's a um it's like basically like um a tiger if you're familiar with those in in uh in england right okay tiger of copenhagen it's that kind of yeah i think yeah sales little bric-a-brac things. Some of them are quite good.

A 30-euro smartwatch that no one's ever going to want. Yeah. A massage gun. Yeah, that kind of stuff. I mean, I'm

delighted to tell Luke, my namesake, that it is a brand new player. Well done there. I mean, that's cracking. Great way to start

I think it's surprising given that, I mean, Faro's a pretty big tourist airport. A lot of British people go on holiday to Portugal. I'm surprised that's not common. Which one would a pretty big tourist airport. A lot of British people go on holiday to Portugal.

Which one with a Duracell then? Which one with a good old Duracell? True, it's true actually. A beautiful British battery like a Duracell which is famously not British isn't it? Probably not. Maybe it started there. American? I don't know. They are British, aren't they?

They're American. Andre says, Chinese batteries sometimes don't last long, and as another one bites the dust, I present to you Burstow. My cat was very curious about it, and since the first battery I submitted years ago, it was because of her. She deserves to be in the picture. I hope this one goes into the battery, Daddy.

Now, it's a lovely cat. I don't know what kind of cat you call that or colouring. It's like a white and black and yellow. Tortoiseshell, I'd say. Tortoiseshell. Right, a tortoiseshell cat. Sonshell. And, yeah, Andre has come up with Burstor.

I think we've had this before, though, looky-mo. Yeah, it's a beautiful cat. Beautiful cat. Do not put the battery in the cat. I think I'm right in saying, I'm just going to double-check, Do not put the battery in the cat. I think I'm right in saying, I'm just going to double check, that a massive percentage of tortoiseshell cats are female.

Yeah, look, I've got it confirmed here. So guess how many tortoiseshell cats are female? Oh, 60%. One in 3,000 are male. So basically 2,999 talk show cats are female. That's below 99 then. You've got a 1 in 3,000 chance of getting a talk show cat's male because the chromosomes needed

to produce that colour scheme are basically the two X chromosomes that you need for a female. I see. It's a beautiful cat. Nice to see. I love both cats and dogs, but I think when you get a beautiful cat,

it's a really nice thing to see. If I'm walking down the street and I see a really nice cat, I think that's a lovely thing to see. And also, easily grabbable because they're never on leads. They give you a swipe, though, if they don't like it.

They give you a little swipe. Lure them in with a bit of your jelly. You've got to respect the idea that when you go in, not for me now because we've been to the vet so often with our cats that they can't know they're very docile and friendly which they are which is great um but when i first used to take them in the the amount of protective gear the vets putting on it's amazing you just don't see that with a dog yeah well a lot of dog trade like if you go to a dog train is the first thing they'll do is um

uh help you to put like a muzzle on them. Just simply because when they go to the vets, I think a lot of the time they put muzzles on them. I think ours are fine, to be honest. They don't really. Border Terriers, they're quite hardy. They never complain, really. Which is why at one time I was recording this very Lucan Pete show and Sammy appeared at the window. And he was like sort of of like scratching the window and it turned out he just absolutely

run into something and he busted his eye you know oh wow he didn't even know and he didn't even know um but poor thing i i hate thinking of animals in pain yes i haven't the ones i eat i just think that, you know, in certain circumstances, shoving your finger or a thermometer up a cat's arse is one of the most dangerous things you can do. One of the great pleasures in life. I mean, a big cat, strong big cat, if it got the timing right, it could rip your throat out with a swipe. Don't put your fingers up cat's bum well look

beautiful cat Andre I'd love to know what your cat's name is but for the meantime burst over

I'm not a new player anymore thank you for sending them in Peter before we go I just wanted to say that I mentioned before the

break that there's a podcast series I was listening to right you might have heard of it it's called unreliable Witness.

Have you heard of it? Oh, no, I've not heard of this at all. So, weirdly, I don't know why, but I knew nothing about this story when it happened, which is basically around the start of COVID. Right. And you know that it's a kind of far-right tro trope really, but certain parts of it do go on and there's been some really, really awful kind of experiences

and situations where young girls have been groomed by gangs of men for like sex trafficking, stuff like that, right? And it famously, there's talk of it happening in Rotherham and Rotterdam,

kind of all these kind of mostly northern towns that have been left behind by society sadly, all that kind of mostly northern towns that have been left behind by society sadly. All that kind of stuff. Anyway, in 2020, a girl in Barrow in Cumbria,

so just on the south tip of the Lake District, posted a Facebook post saying that she had been a victim of this. Yeah. And there was a massive outrage. I mean, there was a huge campaign.

All these protests happened during COVID. I mean, it's like, I think it's like may 2020 uh there was a crowd funder set up for her not because she got a lot of injuries and um loads of stuff happened and you know it's you know part of a i think a wider milieu because people were frightened about covid and couldn't leave their house and all the rest of it and then obviously you know all the usual grifters like toifters like Tommy Robertson turned up and complained about it because she accused a bunch of Asian men business owners of doing it.

But the podcast starts with that Facebook post that she posted accusing of stuff happening and talking about the situation. And then it unravels and goes so twisty and turny that it honestly does keep you on the edge of your seat. It's six episodes. I'm not going to say any more than that because I don't really want to give it away to people. And some people listening may remember the news story. I didn't actually remember the news story, I guess because there was loads going on with COVID

and I just didn't see it. But it's called Unreliable Witness, produced by Sky News. It's produced in quite a weird way. It's produced by... You know like when you watch the news and they cut to a special report and it's like a guy who'll do a piece to camera

with a load of Vox Pops and interviews for like five, six, seven minutes. It's kind of done like that. So it sounds quite different. But it's a fascinating story. Honestly, a really interesting story about that type of stuff, the kind of culture that it

that kind of pervades it all that kind of thing it's well worth listening to I really liked it six episodes of about half an hour very very a story really interesting story really well told

and it goes in a couple of different directions that you don't expect well worth a listen so I thought I'd mention that to our listeners in case they're looking for something non-stacked to listen to

which they bloody shouldn't be no but if they are got enough over here to be quite frank. Give that a go. Yeah. All right, well, good stuff.

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