The Luke and Pete Show - Just a dad, down the pub, doing a Wordle

Episode Date: June 23, 2022

Can you believe that pubs used to close, for a few hours, in the middle of the afternoon? How would the kids (and dads) of today cope…Speaking of dads, the lads give us a long-overdue dad update on today’s show (Papa Moore’s bench-making pursuits are thriving) and we also get another update from our resident steel erector. It’s good stuff!Want to contact the show? Email: [e-mail] or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the Luke and Pete Show It's Thursday I'm Pete Donaldson joined by Mr. Luke Moore How are you doing Lukey? Alright Yeah? Alright

You seem a bit standoffish I'm alright I'm going to Belgium tomorrow What are you doing, Lukey? All right. Yeah? All right. You seem a bit standoffish. What's going on? I'm all right. I'm going to Belgium tomorrow. What are you doing in Belgium? What business do you have in Belgium? My wife and I are going to see Nick Cave in Brussels. Right.

And then we're going to spend the rest of the week in Bruges. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, which is lovely. And I'm really excited for it. It's probably my favourite, might even be my favourite place in Europe to go to. Are you going to have a Stroop waffle?

Probably will. Yeah, I've had several actually probably several and the waffles they do the bigger waffles with the ice cream

and they've got an amazing shop there which they claim is the best chocolate shop in the world called the chocolate line in Bruges

so I'll probably visit that as well might climb to the top of the bell tower might have a little bike ride go on a little canal boat ride

has your partner been to Bruges before we've been together we've been together before yeah we had a lovely time I don't know the Tower. Might have a little bike ride. Go on a little canal boat ride. Has your partner been to Bruges before? We've been together. We've been together before, yeah. We had a lovely time. I don't know the weather's going to be as good this time, but who knows? By the way, speaking of going to see Nick Cave in Belgium, it's a little

one-day open-air festival thing. We didn't talk about me going to Primavera Sound last week, did we? Oh yeah, that's right. You went to Primavera Sound the other weekend. No. No, my only foreign festival is Not Alive in Portugal.

It's the same thing, I think. Is it the same company? Is it in Porto? No, it's in Lisbon. Okay, right. So this one was sponsored by Not as well,

which is a mobile phone provider in Portugal, I think. But this is where I think, actually, I went to this one before when it was called Paradise Decora in the same spot about 15 years ago. But this time where I think actually I went to this one before when it was called Paradise de Cora

in the same spot about 15 years ago but this time around I guess Primavera Sound have expanded out from Barcelona to a different place right but I thought it was good

do you know what I liked about it I like that European festivals are A a lot more chilled out B don't start until later in the day so you ain't got to worry about getting hot and stuff

you get sunburned and all that kind of crap which is a big factor for me and I like the one thing I didn't like about it is you had to drink

Superbock I don't mind Superbock Cygrace is better isn't it and if you're drinking Superbock it's usually like

two euros or something it's so cheap there it was still quite cheap in the festival itself Portugal is cheap generally though isn't it

yeah but a lot of the how much is your ticket price cheap quite cheap in the festival itself. Portugal is cheap generally though, isn't it? Yeah. So, a lot of the, a lot of the, how much is your ticket price? Cheap. Yeah.

Like 80 euros or something. It's amazing. Yeah. Absolutely amazing. And it's mainly because they just opened completely to sponsors and it's almost like an expo

for different companies and stuff. So there's so many sort of food trucks and product trucks. One of the stages was sponsored by Binance. Binance. Don't they make weird phones

I thought it was crypto wasn't it oh is it right Binance it's so stupid it's quite weird Bitcoin finance is that it

I guess I'm not really sure but it just seemed really funny that's atrocious Binance yeah and it's so cheap the festival ticket itself

because some friends of mine I went with they rented a villa. Right, yeah. But it's so many people. It just wasn't that expensive. So I think it turned out to be just over 100 euros each. It's not bad, is it?

And the ticket was like 80 euros. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy cheap. It's ridiculously cheap. To the point where I couldn't make the Thursday night for other reasons. So I flew out on Friday morning. I still didn't feel ripped off.

Yeah. Which is wicked. They don't do Sunday nights, do they? They just do Friday, Saturday. Correct. It's Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Yeah. Okay.

Just a better plan. Because Sunday nights is just one... I was listening to my partners doing Isle of Wight Festival. And I was thinking Sunday is just... The bands start a bit earlier, and nobody really wants to be hung over on a Monday. Britain's got a really weird relationship with a Sunday. Yeah.

To me, the relationship with a Sunday in Britain is that people either go, it's Sunday today, so I'm not doing anything. It's a recovery day, yeah. Or they, normally younger people, will rail against the idea of a Sunday to get as fucked up as possible

and just battle through Monday. Well, they do it like back in holiday Mondays in Hartlepool used to be, you know, just people beating the shit out of each other. On the Monday, do it on the Sunday.

And enjoy your Monday. I'll do it on the Sunday as well. Exactly, they're doing it every single day. Britain's relationship with the Sunday is very odd. I just think it's very, very complicated. The idea that, like one of the things, for example, the wife I have access to when she moved over here from the US,

the one thing that she didn't fully prepare for and that I didn't think would ever be a problem and never become on my radar was how short the shop opening hours are. So in London, in Oxford Street, it's probably different. Like right in the center of London, it's probably different. And then people listening are from all over the world, so it's probably different opening hours are. Right. So in London, in Oxford Street, it's probably different. Like right in the center of London, it's probably different. And then people listening are from all over the world. So it's probably different wherever they are. But in the UK, provincially, the shops close.

I mean, she couldn't believe it, for example, that the coffee shop near our house in West Norwood, which is in London, would close at like 4 p.m. Whereas like in America. Who's drinking coffee after that, though? But they sell other shit. And in the US US you go to I mean where my wife's from

you'll drive 10 minutes down the road and you're not even in a town right you're probably you're in very very suburban

like New England there'll be a shopping mall there open air you know the ones I mean and there'll be no one in them and they're open till 10

yeah you go there anytime they're open pretty much from like 7am to like 10pm every fucking day. In the UK on a Sunday

I remember the only time the 24 hour supermarket down south wouldn't open wouldn't be able to open more than 5 hours

down on a Sunday. There's just no reason for that now. Well I never understand why It's some kind of weird religious thing. Sainsbury's at 4

like all of the supermarkets in town close at 4 they do 10 till 4 or 11 till 5 it's mad don't you think why wouldn't they just go later

I mean like just do 12 till 6 we're all losing out because of online shopping well you're losing out because of online shopping partly because you're not fucking open

online shopping's always do you remember like when we were young it would be unfathomable for the kids nowadays pubs just closing during the afternoon. Oh, mate. Mate, listen.

People would finish their drinks about three, close up for a couple of hours, then they'd be back on it at five. Yeah. I remember that. It was basically saying to all drunks, you've just got to go home, mate, for a bit. Just put an appearance in, then you can come back and enjoy the evening.

So you know that the, I might have this wrong, but I think that the all-day licensing legislation might have only been changed when Labour came in in 97. Yeah. Yeah, and then after that

it took ages for all the pubs to adhere to it. I remember, and I would have been probably 18, so this would have been 1998, 1999, just before I went to uni. I remember the pub we used to go to after football on a Saturday,

right? She would, it's a landlady there, proper old fashioned kind of landlady, independently run pub. I don't even know. She might even still be running it. Anyway,

you'd go after football, you play football, kick off at 10.30, you finish at 12.31, go to the pub for an hour. She would close at 2 till 6, then she'd open again. That's unfathomable now.

It's crazy how different that is now. Isn't it? I often do, and this is a bit of a trope, and so forgive me, but it really hit home to me yesterday when I was thinking to myself around that time, people were just about getting mobile phones

and there was no real internet that much in people's homes. What are we fucking doing with our time? What are we doing? I think there's not, there's not been a more seismic change in life,

in our lifetime, than the internet. No, no, definitely not. I mean, because before, yeah, what did we get up to? Did we just look at stuff I went out in London once I went out in London

at the age of 18 right we went to see John he was in uni in London right and he had been I think it was in our first year of uni

so it would have been 99 right 18 I came up because I wasn't at uni there because I had a third year because I failed on my A levels

so I was still living at home a few of my mates were in Bristolistol they went to london we all we all kind of gravitated towards london right and he had been there for three months or something like that so none of us really knew london at all and we just went straight into the center of town we met at his house dropped our stuff went straight into the center of town had a few drinks decided someone had some fucking rumor there was a party happening. Yeah. So we got on the tube about four stops to go somewhere else. A mate of mine got chatting to someone,

right? Didn't know we were getting off the tube. Stayed on it. Stayed on it. And I didn't see him again for like the next time we were home for uni.

Because he was like, there's no way in a city this big we're ever going to find him. Yeah. And we're not going home. We're not sacking the night off right

it's his own fault so he ended up going on some mad one with some people he didn't even know he didn't even turn up back at the house and I went home again

without seeing him but what I'm doing stuff my point well I guess he went there later after I'd gone but my point is this this was about 8pm

yeah back then his night was over yeah because he couldn't concert anyone people don't even think about that now

it would be a laugh and it would be 20 minutes detour that's it it's more just kind of like I used to resent people who would

fuck the night up like that they just wouldn't get in somewhere because they were too pissed or whatever you used to do a lot of that stuff

back in the day I was never a liability of getting in places you used to nip off I like a nip off I like to see what places. No, but you used to nip off. You used to nip off. I like a nip off. Yeah. I like to see what's going on.

I like just having a nip off. Yeah. I hate to be constrained. Did you ever pull your socks over your shoes to get into a nightclub? I used to do that in Portsmouth. No, I think, no. I'd always have the correct,

I'd always prepare, because it was like, the last hurdle is getting into the Wesleyan nightclub in Hartlepool. You know, that's the last hurdle. Let me ask you something. And if you're not prepared to dress properly you

don't deserve to be in there did you want to be in there yeah I wanted to be in there okay right because for me I never wanted to go in there oh right I never really wanted

to go there I only ever wanted to go to the nightclub because I wasn't ready to go home I wasn't into the nightclub scene right I just wanted to carry on boozing I think at that

point maybe because I didn't go to watch football that often in big places, just seeing that many people in one place, it just felt like a real happening.

Yeah, I never really thought that. Look at all these people here in the same place. It's mad. I remember there used to be a nightclub

in Portsmouth called Fifth Avenue, right? It used to be Fifth Avenue in Highbury too. That whole building burnt down.

I'm not going to say why I think it burnt down, but look it up. How are you? You might recognise some of the names involved. But anyway, and we used to go there

and we used to play football on a Sunday then as well. And Sunday night then was, I think it must have, was it a Sunday? Couldn't it have even been open? Anyway,

there was a night where it was over 25s, right? And I was about 17, 18. But the football team I played with a lot of the guys were a lot older

and they liked going to these nights because I guess they just didn't really hang around with young people with me as an exception I guess I was just their friend

and they used to fucking corral me into the nightclub they used to basically surround me and just usher me through and it would be more hassle for the bouncers

to stop me and I always used to get in. And I've seen photos of myself now from back then. It's ridiculous. I look about fucking 12. There's nowhere I should be in there.

And I remember thinking to myself, oh, no girls want to talk to me. It's like, of course they want to fucking talk to you. You're 17 as well. You look terrible. You look really bad.

I remember there was one famous photo that all my mates started to piss at me for. The ones I still see where I'm in an over 25s nightclub I think I'm 17 I'm wearing

a Ben Sherman Czech shirt I like it with an Adidas drill top over the top right okay so I've mixed the casual and sport

right I've got really baggy jeans on and a massive pair of Timberlands I just look ridiculous I know people are going to ask

that photo I'll have to try and dig it out but yeah back in the daylight it was I don't know there was a lot

more innocence about it do you know what I mean you weren't uploading shit were you anyway

that's a bit boring but there you go we've got to talk about how and this is a really this is really remiss of me

on Monday I forgot to ask you how A Stewie's doing and B you celebrated Father's Day with him I, you celebrated Father's Day with him. I didn't celebrate Father's Day with him. Yeah, he had a normal Sunday, went down the pub, did a wordle.

Why is he doing the wordle at the pub? It's a solo pursuit. Well, sometimes he'll do it at like 2 o'clock in the morning, so I'll wake up to see how well he's done at the wordle. Was he spoiling it? No, he didn't spoil it, because he can sort of copy the results without showing what actually... Oh, so you mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And, you know, it's really brought us together, weirdly. That's nice. We text every day because of Wordle. And he gets really angry because I toss a couple of rounds off just to sort of feel my way. If I've already got like a couple of letters,

I'm like, well, that could be anything. Yeah. And I'll toss another round off by just selecting loads of letters that aren't in there I'm playing with fire he gets really upset about it

what's your percentage success rate though I always get it eventually rarely don't get it but you get six scores don't you you usually get better what did you get

for Father's Day I just got him a card that picture of him with the big box of crisps oh yeah you sent me that when he came back on Christmas Day with crisps my picture of him with the big box of crisps. Oh, yeah, you sent me that, actually. When he came back on Christmas Day with crisps. My mum sent him out for a couple of bags of crisps,

in her words, and he came back with a box of 36 that I think were out of date. Just the two of them? Just the two of them. I actually got my dad a Wordle-themed Father's Day card this year because he loves Wordle as well.

Oh, right, yeah. And it was, what do I do to get a dad as good as you I guess I was just insert word or graphic lucky all green letters which doesn't really

even make sense because we're thinking about it because that's a five letter word and it should be a six letter word right

no it's a five letter word you're fine okay cool I actually took my dad for lunch in a pub near where my sister lives we had a nice time

and I think I get the impression in that kind of occasion where there's a whole family there my sister lives. We had a nice time. And I think it is, I get the impression that in this kind of, in that kind of occasion where there's a whole family there, my dad's allowed to order the stuff he wants to order. Right.

My mum won't stop him. So what, so he usually orders stuff that he can't have? So I get my impatience from my mother, right? So I'm quite impatient. Right.

My mum always wants to do things as quickly as possible. I'm kind of like that. In the situations where someone's hungry or wet, just get it done. Just get it done. Yeah. As soon as you're finishing, just get out of here.

If they go for dinner, my mum will be massively like, let's just get a main course. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. My dad wants to take his time, be a little more deliberate with stuff. And so, but when the whole family are there, my mum doesn't feel like she can kind of overbear. So he could get himself a starter, get himself a main,

get himself a dessert it's all good stuff it's all good stuff but it was nice it was nice to spend the Sunday with him lovely and we were with

my niece and nephew as well so that was good it was fun how was his how was his benches yeah good good yeah

he's got we've got one of his benches in my garden he's got one in his garden he had this idea which I think is a really nice idea it's kind of a legacy project he's not that old or anything but he kind of wants to do one in his garden. He had this idea where he wanted, which I think is a really nice idea. It's kind of a legacy project. He's not that old or anything, but he kind of wants to do stuff in his retirement.

I think I might mention this to you and for listeners who don't, can't remember this, just very very quickly. My dad will get bench ends, iron bench ends off of like Gumtree or the internet and you pick them up. Sometimes you can even pick them up for free because people don't want them. And he takes them into his workshop and he restores them and he paints them and varnishes them. And then he breaks down, it's quite clever actually, it's quite a clever idea. He breaks down pallets, which again are free,

completely free. And he uses them to make the bench slats, right? And he varnishes them up, they all look really nice. And the bench in our garden is really beautiful. And they're all individually painted, it's a bespoke job. And he said to me a while back,

wouldn't it be great to just make them and just start putting them in parks around Gosport where he lives? And no, I mean, really no one

would notice, would they? No one's going to give a shit. No. People are going to be happy, right?

If the council tried to take him away, I think there'd be a bit of an uproar about it. So I told him he should definitely

do it. I'm not sure if he's got round to it. But then he also said to me that he reckons he could probably charge,

what did he say? He said, oh, that lot up in London would probably pay 300 quid for this. Which is like baffling to him.

300 quid would be cheap I think for garden furniture. Of that quality as well. He'd be doing it anyway. He doesn't care. He'd do it for free. He gave us a bench for free. How do you strip the paint off the old thing? Is he an acid bath man or a sand blaster? He uses that stuff

that product, I can't remember what it's called now but he will if the bench ends are rusty he'll blast them yeah and then he does a really good job

he's really deliberate at it so he can never do it as a business because I think he's more of an artisan he takes ages he really takes his time

but they do look good I'll share a photo with Rory and he can put it on social media there's one in our garden it really does genuine

our garden's quite long and thin and so we've got look good. I'll share a photo with Rory and he can put it on social media. It's one of our gardens. It really does genuinely, our garden's quite long and thin. And so we've got garden furniture up on the deck, but on the main bit of the garden

walking up towards the deck, it really genuinely does brighten up the garden. It's really cool. It's a really beautiful piece of

ornate furniture. That must be very satisfying for him, I think. Yeah, and it's completely alien to me because I could never do anything like that. How's satisfying for him, I think. Yeah, and it's completely alien to me because I could never do anything like that. How's your decking, by the way?

Well, it's still kind of there. It's just too much. There's too many little things to sort of worry about in that bloody house. If you could afford it, I would recommend getting a landscaper to do the gardening from top to bottom. We don't really have a garden.

We just have planters. Oh, okay, right. It's all just yard and planters. What do you mean just yard? It's just a yard. How big is the space? It's quite big. You can fit a bit.

The landscape will come in and you can consult with them and have whatever you want and they'll do it for you. Yeah. It's worth it. Right. Pull them now.

You'd have to pull up all of the pavement, the flagstones, and then put soil down, wouldn't you? What do you know about flagstones? I know you can't just put soil on top of flagstones, and then put soil down, wouldn't you? What do you know about flagstones? I know you can't just put soil on top of flagstones.

Well, try it. We've got that concrete flagstone stuff all the way up our garden, but we've got planters on the side, and we've got a deck at the back, and we've got the fences done, the planters done, the lights, the planting. We've got a cherry tree in our garden, which we got.

So one of the most exciting things about having the garden done was the guy who did it, he said, right, we're finished now, but now we've got to do this plant. So what I need you to do is tomorrow morning, you need to meet me at this place. We had to meet him at 5am, right?

Because it's like a nursery thing where all the best plants go and they get taken. And he said, just pick all your plants that you want. And we picked the cherry tree at one point and it was the best decision we've ever made in that garden it's a fucking amazing

cherry tree now so you get lots of cherries yeah we get like 250 cherries every summer bring us in some cherries I should do I've got some in the fridge right now

but the great thing about those Pete is that I've got quite a small percentage of cherry trees in our climate I think because there's lots

of different species quite a small amount of them actually fruit. And the ones that do fruit, I think only 10% of them are edible. They're really sour. We've got beautifully sweet cherries and we get them every summer.

Nice. I'll bring some in. Sweet, sweet soil. It's just a great tree. To the point, I can't tell you how passionate I am about this tree, but the thing that keeps niggering

at the back of my mind is when we go finally move house and move out of London you can't take your charity with you no you can have a go well what Mimi's done

which is great because she's a brilliant gardener is she's now taking taking a cutting yeah and she's growing another one yeah a small one

and it'll take years and years so by the time we move hopefully we'll still be able to carry it and the legacy will continue anyway I've got a lemon tree in the back of mine

I've planted that that doesn't grow any lemons does it you won't get any lemons, does it? You won't get any lemons out of that. Got two lemons. No way. Got two lemons.

How big? About that big. Quite big. I'm surprised to hear that. Why are you surprised They're much more successful in Southern Europe. Yeah.

It's happened, hasn't it? Is it because you've got a bit of a sun trap in your garden? There's a bit of a sun trap, yeah. I suppose it's a nice climate out there as well. Yeah.

Okay, right. I'd love to know more about that, actually, but let's have a break. When we come back, we've got to do battery brands's a nice climate out there as well. Yeah. Okay, right. I'd love to know more about that actually, but let's have a break. When we come back, we've got to do battery brands. Batteries. We're still sending them in.

Yeah. And let's see if we can get to some other stuff as well. Let's do that, Pete. Let's take a break now. All right then. And we're back with Luke and Pete and it is Thursday,

23rd of June. So of course, we're talking about all things batteries. If you've opened up a bit of Consumer Electronica and you found a weird named battery in there or two,

we're not talking about rechargeable kind of lithium ones. That's not kind of our bag. They have to be the usual D cells, C cells. A cells? On the show. A cells? Is A cells a thing? Well, AA, AAA, all that stuff.

I think there is a single A size, but you just don't see them very often. Got one from Drew. Hello, Drew. Thank you for that. Hey, Luke and Pete. I set some batteries in a few days ago and decided to have a look around my house to see if I had any other batteries lying around. I ended up finding these interesting batteries.

These are Google-branded batteries that came with my new Chromecast TV remote. They're mostly unbranded other than the fine print. I would love to hear your thoughts on these and if they could even be counted as a new player. As always, keep up the good work, gents. Drew, difficult to search the Google Drive for a minute because it's got the word Google in it. That's the problem. I don't think they should be counted.

Well, yeah, just because the whole kind of the naming convention, it just seems like a... You've not let this type of stuff pass before. Right. I think you should be consistent on this. Okay. And I also really don't want to talk Google into this. Drew, I'm afraid you've fallen at the first hurdle

just simply because we're quite lazy. Hello, boys. I've recently come across a single Eneloop Pro. Eneloop Pro, quite literally in the wild. It had been planted at the turf at Nebworth, perhaps by a recreational drug user. The photo of it is that it wades

into some grass. Yeah. So I don't understand what that's got to do with drugs. Yeah. I enjoyed explaining to my family

at the Liam Gallagher gig why it was so important to grab a photo of this to send into your show. All the best, Joe. An errant Nebworth battery. What kind of family goes to a Liam Gallagher gig

at Nebworth together? It's interesting. I mean, because a few people I know went to that gig and I can't help but think that they were letting themselves

into more than they biting off more than they could chew really because it was they're not known for being particularly polite the old Oasis fans

are they awful yeah awful and I I also did I tell you my favourite story about that gig

about Fat White Family? Oh, yes, yes. Yeah, that was classic. You can go back and listen to that if you haven't heard it already. Eneloop Pro, I mean, listen, Joe, what are you tired of doing with your own family, your own business?

I'm sure they're lovely people. I'm sure you had a great time. Bucket hats or not. Buckets of piss or not, as Donaldson would say. I'm delighted to tell you, my friend, that you are the first person to ever send in

an Eneloop Pro battery no what the fact that you found it wedged into a patch of grass at Nebworth makes it all the more sweet

for me so congratulations to you Joe I've seen Eneloop before maybe not Eneloop Pro then different branding yeah there we go hello to Simon and Norwich hello boys

before the battery I found my stupid dog who did a cruciate knee ligament in lockdown, fucked her other leg last week. That is both cruciates torn in two years. Simon, I can't imagine how much that costs to fix. Quite a lot, I imagine. Anyway, probably not,

but it's the first random battery found in my house, technically in an old PowerPoint pointer thing. Nacon Alkaline. Is this a new player? I think it's a new player, Luke. Is it N-A-C-C-O-N? N-A-C-C-O-N. Nacon Alkaline. Is this a new player? I think it's a new player, Luke. Is it N-A-C-C-O-N? N-A-C-C-O-N. Nacon Alkaline.

This is a really interesting one. Simon, you are a new player, right? I'd like to send congratulations to you. Well done. You sent this battery in on June the 1st of this year. On June the 6th, our friend and listener Andrew Follier also sent someone one in. They're the only two times

we've had it in a five day period but Andrew was five days too late so Simon is a new player Andrew isn't congratulations and commiserations

just can show you the jeopardy involved in life's rich pageant when it comes to the Luke and Pete show we're in the world of the Nacon we're just living

in the Nacon world do you reckon Nacon's a new one they've started to roll out maybe maybe we're in the world of the Nacon we're just living in the Nacon world do you reckon Nacon's a new one they've started to roll out maybe maybe we're at the forefront of this

whole thing to be honest crazy right absolutely crazy I'll check in a quick email before we chip off from James Jennings morning guys

in reference to my email Thursday and steel erecting I thought I'd share a few pictures of my current job in Mayfair just behind the Japanese embassy

it's very physically demanding although we do use a crane for the heaviest steel. Love the show. Keep the good work. And I have to say, there's some beautiful steel erecting happening. Do you reckon James is a bigger boy?

I think he might be a bigger boy, yeah. I mean, it depends. He could be like an engineer that has like the clipboard and he doesn't have to be a big boy. He wears like a white shirt and that's kind of his kind of civvy outfit. They just put the old hard hat on, don't they?

Yeah. I just love the fact, I just love the kind of steel erecting. There's the central kind of column for what I presume is stairwells. No, that's the lift shaft,

isn't it? I don't think it is because it's got floors. It might be a lift and stairs. The lift goes to floors, famously, doesn't it? And stairs combined.

There's a big cement construction up with maybe the lift and definitely the stairs. And then around it is this massive steel construction. How are they going to fill the floors? It's going to be like thin aluminium kind of floors, maybe. Can I ask a kind of controversial question around hard hats?

Right. You've got a hard hat on. It's made of plastic. It's not going to protect you if a steel guard falls on your head. You've answered my question. How much good is that actually doing? Well, I mean, I think it's just if a rock falls off something

or somebody drops a spanner. It'll probably protect you against a spanner. Yeah, good point. But it's not helping you with the big stuff. It's not. You're still good enough about one foot tall if you have that fall on your head. James is great.

I like the idea that James is working in this environment right in the middle of town, just beyond the Japanese embassy, as he says, and he's listening to Luke and Pete show, because I am quite surprised that you could listen to it, listen to music or podcasts while doing that job. Maybe you'd just listen to it in his own spare time, and I've missed the point here.

Surely headphones aren't allowed on building sites. No, definitely not. If I'm not allowed to use them at Tesco Picking Factory in 2002, even though it was very cold and I could conceal them under my hat, you're just not allowed. Because people are reversing forklift trucks. People are running around with pump trucks on.

Much easier for you to do that at Tesco. Was it Tesco you said? Tesco Picking Factory. Yeah, you could do that now because of the wireless headphones, right? People wouldn't even know. Yeah, they wouldn't even have known. You'd have to have a cable by then.

Absolutely. I couldn't wear them at the Great South Run. Right. Why? Some running races don't let you because the ambulance needs to get through.

Right. You can't get out of the way. You don't get out of the way What kind of headphones are going to stop you from hearing an ambulance? Mate, you know, I've got some great

Bose noise cancellers. They are fucking good. You are a boy. The problem with Bose is that they've moved from the wired model to the wireless model now and the noise canceler is nowhere near as good. I just don't. The problem with Bose is that they've moved from the wired model to the wireless model now and the noise cancel

is nowhere near as good. I just don't think they can generate the power or something. So the Bose cabled, I'll show you afterwards, the Bose cabled ones, they've got like a little box

on the cable that you have to charge. Yes. Okay. And it plugs into whatever. I use them in my laptop still now. They're the best headphones ever. And the noise canceling

is fucking fierce. The new model are the Bluetooth. Bluetooth and they are noise cancelling, and their noise cancelling, I would say, my estimation would be probably 60 to 70% as powerful noise cancelling. Is the noise cancellation inside the earpiece? Correct. Right, okay, well that makes sense. And it's no coincidence that the wired ones, the box is about that big to do it.

And do you know how noise cancelling works? Yes. It's kind of mad. Yeah, it's no coincidence that the wired ones the box is about that big to do it and do you know how noise cancelling works yes kind of mad yeah it's absolutely insane but it means you can they've sort of started working on kind of entire room

noise cancelling if you know what I mean right so just taking that technology and making it bigger you can't see this but that is it's good isn't it

it's good but I do worry it fires out little cells to neutralise the sound yeah like an inverted phase of whatever it's listening to I do worry it fires out little sounds to neutralise the sound yeah like an inverted phase of whatever it's listening to really really quickly

that's why out of the blue really big high pitched sounds can't be cancelled because it just can't react quick enough it's amazing

when I first heard that I thought it was a joke but it does make you kind of because if you ever rub the microphone on the outside of like big headphones you're like

oh fine that's loud but like if you yeah I think I think if, I think it does make you feel a bit weird when you've got them on. It goes, like you can feel like a closeness. Like it's all in your head a little bit. You feel claustrophobic, doesn't it?

When I, I can't speak on the phone by using them as noise cancelling. Right. Because it sounds fucking mad. Because you can't hear yourself as well. Yeah. That's the hardest thing. So I always used to use the iPhone ones for that.

They work fine I think people listening to this show would like to know and be I think comforted that we take our noise cancelling

headphones we take it seriously we do take it seriously and it means you don't have to turn up the headphones that high and bust your ears exactly right

and on that note Pete we should get out of here we didn't even have a chance to talk about the AI thing that happened last week the AI thing that happened last week the AI thing that happened last week Rory just put AI on the running

I want to talk about the AI situation get to it next time yeah because it's a fascinating discussion Peter and it's right up your street and it's very controversial tell it to Eureka

little teaser for you some guy at Google who's been working on an AI machine started to go off piste with the old briefings I think he's got too close to that AI

machine. Yeah. Well he's been sacked. He's been sacked. Get out of here. Work out what happens next.

You do the math. We'll talk about it next time. See you then. Thank you very much for listening. It's hello at LukeandPeacher.com

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