The Luke and Pete Show - Kangaroo Boy

Episode Date: May 27, 2024

Pete is talking about Ian Wright's ankle, again, and Luke tells Donny about the new show his mum is obsessed with.Plus, we have serious questions. Does anyone want to buy some garden furniture from Lu...ke? Are head transplants morally wrong? And did your parents know (or better still, did they care) when you were watching TV after lights out?Want to get in touch with the show? Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow. Follow us @thelukeandpeteshow.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's the Luke of Beach I'm Pete Donaldson on the previous show we did batteries on the previous show we had a right old go at some professional radio stations and we also spoke about
Starting point is 00:00:16 going to parties and enjoying yourselves with one year olds that's what we do on the Luke of Beach show and we kind of that's what we kind of did for Crying Out Loud.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Yeah, and it's great to be back. I hope you had a nice weekend, everyone. Summer's on its way, surely. It is. We've got a European Championships to look forward to. The football season's behind us. Just cancel me Now TV subscription.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Not going to need that for a little while. Sorry, if we're being sponsored by them, I've definitely continued the Now TV subscription. I don't know if you've paid any attention to the economy over the last six months
Starting point is 00:00:47 around podcasting, but there's no. Yes. People are listening straight. It's never been a better time to listen to podcasts because nobody's interrupting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Yeah. The only adverts are from people going, hey, you should advertise on this. Yeah. Yeah. Do you still do you still get do you still get like The only adverts are from people going, hey, you should advertise on this. Yeah, let's do it. Do you still get a little bit of excitement for a big summer tournament, Peter?
Starting point is 00:01:11 Yeah, I do. I think it reminds me of good times. As an adult, it doesn't remind me so much as good times when I was a kid because England were frequently atrocious, but it reminds me of watching the final of the Euros where Luke Shaw
Starting point is 00:01:27 scored his opener against Italy and it gets me going that we could see those times again so it gets you nostalgic for three years
Starting point is 00:01:36 yeah exactly which is like a blink of an eye for us at our age are you going to go you're going to come to the England watch long that we're doing
Starting point is 00:01:43 with the Red Bull I am yeah I really enjoyed it last time. It was fucking brilliant last time, wasn't it? It was so much fun. And there were so many people and the venue was a bit of a... It had a sort of dipped screen
Starting point is 00:01:55 and it was so packed out that I couldn't even see the screen because I'm very small. But this time we've got a bigger and better venue so I can't wait to get involved. I'll put you on my shoulders if you want. Please do. Or in your belly like Krang yeah that'd be nice i wonder if you could surgically
Starting point is 00:02:09 make a hole for a laugh in someone's body you probably could couldn't you like if you avoided the spine and just went in the back um and and sort of part made a little kind of like tunnel that you shove your head through it do you know what i mean yeah i do um i remember what this is reminding me of is that when i used to produce or exec produce um eureka with rick and michael they did i don't think we did the episode at the end but we did a lot of research around it and did some kind of pioneering, there was some research on some pioneering surgeons who were going to try and do a head transplant.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Okay, yeah. But isn't it like, it's always like the slightly eccentric ones that really have a go at this sort of thing. Well, so, yeah, there was a situation, I think six or seven years ago, where there was a pioneer, mean you call him pioneering maybe a mental I don't know surgeon I mean technically it's not a head transplant it's a
Starting point is 00:03:09 full body transplant I suppose yeah um pioneering some might say scalpelineering I think he was Italian this yeah but he had found a guy who had sadly a really limited life through disability. He was basically paralyzed from the head down. He was like, look, this is quite bleak, but he was basically saying, look, I don't mind if I die. I have a much quality of life, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll give it a go because I've got no quality of life whatsoever. And they were talking about it,
Starting point is 00:03:39 but I think some kind of ethics commission stopped it happening. Yeah, I mean, I think those safety nets, you're so happy when they step in, don't you? Because you're like... Yeah, but I mean, to answer your question, could we transplant maybe your stomach into my stomach for a day so I can feel what it's like
Starting point is 00:03:59 to have to house bottles of Gaviscon every couple of hours? And then you could perhaps get a bit of me where you get to know what it's like to be hunched over and really uncomfortable with knees and back because you're so tall. I think it would teach us quite a lot about each other. My knees and back hurt and I'm not so tall,
Starting point is 00:04:16 if I cried out loud. Yeah. Yeah, true. I've got a real problem with my knees. I'm actually going to go see a specialist. Right. It's annoying. It's a tall man's crime.
Starting point is 00:04:27 I wasn't able to enjoy my double pivot with tim key you know disappointed i mean to be fair like i played yesterday and i played 11s on sunday and i played um sevens yesterday and i got on the field and my just ankle just an agony and i'm like well this isn't this must be what how like ian wright feels with his fused ankle you're always talking about ian wright yeah because he's a really good example of like a man who is unbelievably talented football and then watching him try and kick a um a bit of paper into a bin once and he's like i can't rotate my ankle because it's fused everything's just fused together and it's just like wow like life comes at you fast if you're
Starting point is 00:05:05 if you use you know if you do that all the time you put so much strain on your joints it's like Chris Kirkland the ex-Liverpool goalkeeper I interviewed
Starting point is 00:05:13 and he was saying that like because he actually recently fairly recently came out and said he had an addiction to prescription painkillers because he had so many injuries and he was so much pain
Starting point is 00:05:21 at the time I bet it kind of it disappeared down the rabbit hole but yeah not ideal I'm hoping that the old knees will sort themselves time. I bet. He kind of, he disappeared down the rabbit hole. But yeah, not ideal. I'm hoping that the old knees
Starting point is 00:05:27 will sort themselves out. Maybe I just need some kind of like intervention or something. But it's not good because I really wanted to get back into running since I lost all this weight but it's not really going to happen.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I've only done about three runs so far. Can you not just do some brisk walking? Or maybe get one of those, you can have the, I've got one of those little elliptical things
Starting point is 00:05:46 I've been sticking that on first at Marketplace yeah I've done that down the gym quite a few times by the way do you want to buy a load of garden furniture
Starting point is 00:05:53 well we've got loads we've got some here we've got loads of garden furniture and it's just rotting because of the terrible weather yeah we've got loads of garden furniture
Starting point is 00:06:02 that I want to get rid of and I wonder do you want it we've got enough to be honest that we need to get rid of and I wonder if you want it we've got enough to be honest would you like some garden furniture and you live within a manageable distance from South London get in touch on all the social media
Starting point is 00:06:15 I will sell you some good garden furniture at a very competitive price there's a man who rings me up every single Sunday morning telling me that he's going to come round my house to pick up something I was selling on First Up Marketplace. And I'm never in. And he keeps ringing.
Starting point is 00:06:34 And I said, right, this week, 1pm, I'll be there. Come and get it, baby. And he so far, he just ignored me that week. He did it four times in a row and then the fifth time he didn't he didn't bloody do it I'm furious
Starting point is 00:06:49 how much were you selling it for? it was like 100 quid but like what was the item? but it was like a a bit out of a a video game
Starting point is 00:06:58 sort of arcade cabinet thing but another thing I was selling on eBay was like a a relay box for out of a Jaguar X, the one that the car get rid of. And I bought it for something like 150 quid. And so I sold it on eBay to someone else because I didn't fit it in the end. And then they said, it's not working.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I can't get it to work. I said, all right, I'll give you a refund. You got to send it back. And they never sent it back. So I gave them a refund and they didn't send it back. working, I can't get it to work. I said, all right, I'll give you a refund. You've got to send it back. And they never sent it back. So I gave them a refund and they didn't send it back. What am I? Amazon? Have you just only discovered internet scammers now?
Starting point is 00:07:34 Yeah, but it just seems like a weird scam. You've got to send it back, man. You've got to send it back. Yeah, then say the refund will be processed when I receive the item. Yeah, I know. That's my own fault, really. You're an idiot.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Yeah, I am an idiot. Speaking of idiots, I went through a very, very confusing, long conversation over a period of weeks with my mother recently. And I'll tell you why. Because she called me up about three weeks ago, maybe four weeks ago now,
Starting point is 00:08:06 saying, just catching up, yeah, how you doing, fine, brilliant, all good. I said, what have you been up to? She said, oh, I've been watching this really good show on Netflix. I said, all right. What's it called? She goes, oh, Kangaroo Boy. I said, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Right. What's it about? And she told me what it was about. I said, okay okay it sounds pretty interesting actually I'll look it up looked it up on Netflix
Starting point is 00:08:29 couldn't find it so week passes or whatever I speak to her again have you started watching that kangaroo boy yet no I can't find it it's definitely on Netflix
Starting point is 00:08:37 yeah I was thinking she doesn't necessarily know the difference between the different streaming platforms it's probably on Amazon Prime or something
Starting point is 00:08:42 looked it on Amazon Prime couldn't find it looked it Prime, couldn't find it. Looked at it on Sky, couldn't find it. She asked me a few more times. I said, look, I haven't got around to watching it because I can't find it.
Starting point is 00:08:52 I don't watch streaming services on. Forget it. Right? And I was at my nephew's birthday the weekend just gone and we sat around the garden. My mum's there. We're talking about it.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Right? Trans spiders. She's fucking talking about it, right? Trans spiders? She's fucking talking about baby reindeer. Ha, ha, ha, ha, yes. Lovely. But for some reason, her mind misremembered the title of it, and she kept calling it Kangaroo Boy.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Kangaroo Boy? And I said to my sister... Not even baby kangaroo? Kangaroo Boy? No, I heard her in the kitchen mention it to my sister. I went straight in there. Iaroo boy. No, I heard her in the kitchen mention it to my sister. I went straight in there. I said, are you talking about
Starting point is 00:09:28 a kangaroo boy show again? She said, yeah. My sister was like, well, I've never heard of it either. My sister went, what's it about?
Starting point is 00:09:33 My mum told her and then my sister went, oh yeah, it's fucking baby reindeer. I love that. Got a lot of time for that. So I started watching that yesterday. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:42 And I quite liked it. I watched the first couple of episodes. I quite liked it. I've seen there's a lot of controversy around it, but I yesterday oh yeah and um i quite liked it i watched the first couple of episodes i quite liked it i've seen there's a lot of controversy around it but i haven't read it through all of the stand-up bits because you like you won't watch it i won't watch that muck well jim campbell knows him yeah jim campbell doesn't know him yeah i believe yeah he's a stand-up guy in the in real life yes yeah yeah and have you watched it i've watched it yeah i thought it was very good um beautiful okay Okay, because Holly in the office was saying that she thought it was all right, but not that good.
Starting point is 00:10:07 And then some people said they thought it was good. I quite like it. I'm two episodes in. I find it quite, yeah, quite interesting. Yeah, I mean, I think there's a character, I don't think you will have run into yet, but there's a character from The Office UK. Don't Game of Thrones me.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Don't Game of Thrones on you. There's the guy who comes in and I think takes does like an interview I think about
Starting point is 00:10:32 of David Brent he's the ginger haired guy who does the interview right with his partner oh yeah yeah I know him Cooper and Webb
Starting point is 00:10:41 I think he's he's in it later on and he looks completely different and it's a really assured performance from him um playing a horrible role so yeah good stuff good you you liked it though yeah i enjoyed it i thought it was um um and there's a controversy peter been around the fact that he's made it up or something or No, I think the controversy is that it's very clear who the
Starting point is 00:11:08 lady is because you can, basically because they've used the same tweets and stuff and she's been located and obviously she was on Piers Morgan. Say again? But has she done it or not? Are you doing the Game of Thrones yet? Oh, okay, fine. But what I'm saying is
Starting point is 00:11:23 okay, you don't answer that yet. I'll finish it. Just watch it and get back to you. but what i'm saying is okay you don't answer that yet right um just watch it i'll finish it but what i'm saying is you know if she's done it then it's not that no no exactly no it's i i'm very comfortable with that point and i think we spoke about stalking before and it's um and it's a horrific thing to uh to deal with. However, incapacitated mentally, the person who is doing the stalking is, it doesn't make the effects of it any less upsetting to the people who are experiencing it. By the way, I just remembered that I sold a TV to one of our Rambo listeners once.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Did you? How does that work? What? I think I just put it on Twitter. Right. You said, do you want a TV? 100 quid. We're getting a new TV. Do you do you want a tv 100 quid we'll get a new tv do you want the old 100 right some guy came around very nice man came into the house picked it up took it away it's one of those big old-fashioned big backed ones which i bloody love ones yeah you probably make a bit more money out of it these days as discussed but well it was it was about 15 years ago so there's not really much to do about that now. But I love the aesthetic of a big-backed telly.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Yeah, yeah. I like how hot they get. And I like that when you turn them on, it would take a little while for the tube to warm up. Very dangerous tubes. People these days
Starting point is 00:12:36 wouldn't know the subterfuge needed to... So basically, when I was a kid, obviously I had a bedtime, and there was a ladder TV in my room, a little small one, one because i told you before my dad used to work at electronics companies and nick all the stuff from there and so i had a little portable telly old-fashioned one with like a white aerial and um bunny ears yeah you could flip the um front bit down and use a little
Starting point is 00:13:01 orange to adjust the thing to just stick yeah stick to adjust the kind of clarity of the picture and stuff yeah but when you turned on it went like that yeah like that so after i was supposed to go to bed you know so i've been told i've got to go to bed but i'm desperate to watch an episode of red dwarf on bbc2 at 9 30 yeah i'd used to to fire up the phosphor blanket over the telly to muffle the sound
Starting point is 00:13:27 do a really loud cough and a fake sneeze while hitting the TV thing crucially it didn't make a noise
Starting point is 00:13:35 when you turned it off so when you heard someone come in I would use a snooker cue to turn it off
Starting point is 00:13:40 again from the bed that's risky isn't it the tension of like wobbling a snooker cue from the other that's risky isn't it the tension the tension the tension of like wobbling a wobbling a snooker cue
Starting point is 00:13:48 from the other side of the room wow it wasn't a very big room I grew up in like a two up two down terraced house so it wasn't a very big room
Starting point is 00:13:53 I think I probably knew but it was it was it was a risk but I was a risk taker at that age do you not think that like when we used to do this
Starting point is 00:14:02 and mainly like you know watching Eurotrash late at night are we watching anything that you weren't supposed to do this and mainly like you know watching euro trash later night whatever are we watching anything that you weren't supposed to be watching euro trash was a classic great shout the band season on uh channel four what's that band when when they were just short films that were banned um and uh artsy films that were banned betty blue and um the realms of the senses and all that wank um but they would Red Shoe Diaries Red Shoe Diaries the different different vibe less artsy uh more less artsy
Starting point is 00:14:32 more Duchovny um they would have the tits and they would have um you'd be like watching something like late at night that that you should be asleep you shouldn't be watching tv you should be asleep etc etc do you think you put yourself in the shoes of your parents, do you think they gave a flying fuck? Like, I don't fucking care.
Starting point is 00:14:53 As long as I get my time watching my telly, I couldn't give a shit what he's up to. They didn't care and I think that might be why I failed all my A-levels. Good point, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:04 So you've got to think of it this way, though. Everyone was a lot more naive than they are now. My parents were very young. So when I was about 12, my parents were only 35. Right, okay. I mean, they're young parents, really. Really young, yeah. But with young parents,
Starting point is 00:15:20 you're probably much more likely to get earnestness and that kind of stuff. I think my parents were fairly strict. you're probably much more likely to get earnestness and kind of that kind of stuff where you like yeah i think my parents were fairly strict but my mum always says that i was a really good kid but i don't actually remember being quite a good kid i i maybe i just didn't get caught as much and she doesn't know but um i used to jump out my bedroom window and go and do stuff i used to like i say watch tv creek no i did because i used because I used to live so my bedroom was above the kitchen extension right
Starting point is 00:15:47 so the bedroom window which was quite big I used to jump out particularly in the summer I would jump out of that onto the extension down the fence into the back garden
Starting point is 00:15:57 and then out the gate and there's a back alleyway around the back of the house how exciting all the time what did you get up to then what did you sort of leave to do? Not smoking.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Just having a tab. Gagging for a tab. The older boys who lived down the street would be out there. Yeah. Kicking the ball around or... Wouldn't it be really obvious if you were kicking a ball around down the end of the road? No, because the kids were doing it anyway.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Right, okay. But there's no way... So basically the front rooms at the front of the house, there's no way they'd know. Right, you were kicking them all around. There's an outside chance they would come in. I mean, really though,
Starting point is 00:16:31 if they're coming upstairs to go to the toilet and going back downstairs when they're watching the film or watching the game or something, there's no real reason to go in my room. They wouldn't do that. Trust me, the layout was as such
Starting point is 00:16:42 that I couldn't have been seen. Yeah. I didn't do it every night or whatever, but occasionally there was stuff that I didn't have been seen yeah i didn't do every night or whatever but occasionally there was stuff that i didn't want to miss out on particularly if i got grounded because i used to get grounded sometimes um probably probably for doing that but good kid yeah but i used to i used to do do i reckon they cared my dad probably didn't care no my mom probably did care more how about your parents? Dad couldn't give a flying shit. My mum...
Starting point is 00:17:08 Was your dad on this routine back then of getting up at one in the morning or...? Well, he was on shift work when he... I get the sense that my mum and dad... I mean, I definitely get that from my mum and dad. I just want silence and I just want quiet and I just want decorum in my home. Unbelievably.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I'm actually not a loud person. I find slam doors arrogant. I like a bit of peace and bloody quiet. Yeah, I'd agree you're a pretty quiet person. Off mic, yeah, you're a pretty quiet, kind of shy person, I would say. Yeah. Much like myself.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Yeah. Shall we take a short break let's have a break because when we come back I've got an email about Bear Grylls and we forgot to talk about your microwave steaks on Thursday
Starting point is 00:17:51 so we should probably do that oh yes please oh dear I've just just seen an email that's come in with a picture of Robert Carlyle on it
Starting point is 00:18:01 that's a shame it is the Luke and Pete show if you want to get in touch with the show hello Luke and Pete show is the way want to get in touch with the show. Hello, Luke and Pete show is the way to do it. We're on Twitter, we're on TikTok, all kinds of places, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:18:13 But, Lukey Moo, you want to do an email about Bear Grylls? Yeah, I don't really want to do the email about you looking like Hitler. I mean, it just feels like it's... No, I mean, I was just surprised to just see a man... I mean, Robert Carlyle playing Hitler. It's astonishing. Wow. 2003, apparently. He does look like him. I mean, he wouldlyle playing Hitler. It's astonishing. Wow. 2003, apparently.
Starting point is 00:18:26 He does look like him. I mean, he would have been right in his pomp, wouldn't he, old Carlyle? When was he trained? In 1997? I get the sense that 2003, Robert Carlyle could not be hotter. And he's got a little moustache
Starting point is 00:18:41 and I don't even want to know what his German accent's like. The definitive portrayal of Hitler is Bruno Gantz in Downfall, isn't it? Yeah, which is just because of the meme, isn't it? No, but it's an amazing performance, though. I mean, did he win an Oscar for that? That was before memes even existed. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:57 I get the sense that the international kind of film wasn't quite as well respected back then. Oh, he's nominated. He's Oscar nominated. It's 2004. He's dead, actually, Bruno Gans. That's sad. He's Swiss, anyway, not German. In a bunker? I don't know. I don't know. I don't think so, no.
Starting point is 00:19:16 He died... Oh, sadly, he died from cancer. There you go. But anyway, I told you, didn't I? I filmed The Zone of Interest. Not sure. I told you about't I didn't I film The Zone of Interest not sure I told you about it didn't I
Starting point is 00:19:28 right okay it's the film about the Hess family on the side of oh yes living next to the yes I was reading about that
Starting point is 00:19:36 and it took some convincing for the two actors the German actors to play Rudolf Hess and his wife because they both I think it's a bit of a thing
Starting point is 00:19:45 with German actors they both said we're never playing Nazis I mean it's just fucking spellbound we're not doing it and it took them ages to convince them
Starting point is 00:19:52 but anyway yeah so I don't I'm not doing an email about Peter looking like Robert Carlyle looking like Hitler it's just not
Starting point is 00:20:00 it's just not for me anyway too many steps so a while back we talked about Bear Grylls we talked about the Irylls. We talked about the perhaps the lack of reality
Starting point is 00:20:09 of some of the stuff he did in his TV shows. Do you think that's why he's not doing TV shows now? What do you mean? As in like I asked that question just as you drank. It's fake you mean? Well I mean I don't know. I just think he's probably he probably doesn't get quite as many offers
Starting point is 00:20:25 because we were all Bear Grylls'd out for quite a while weren't we? I thought he kind of sashayed into that kind of taking celebrities out
Starting point is 00:20:33 for a walk in the wilderness that was kind of his thing for a long time wasn't it? Did he do a Barack Obama? Oh okay nice like it
Starting point is 00:20:40 Yeah anyway so Darby's been in touch he said hello to you Darby he says hi Luke and Pete we're catching up with old episodes just listen to the one where you talk about the episode where bear grill supposedly captures and breaks a wild horse to ride back to civilization
Starting point is 00:20:52 right now my brother is a horse rancher oh his main occupation is raising and training horses so i decided to ask him about this he doesn't use email so i'm summarizing his feedback for him i like that i love that there's people out there who are horse ranchers who don't use email good that's a good thing um his brother says um i guess i guess darby showed him the footage on youtube of it happening which i watched as well actually before i did the show today and um i got this um i feel like fairly um confident that this is this has been confirmed by other sources as well. Darby's brother says, That's really disappointing.
Starting point is 00:21:28 That was not a wild horse. It was not even a domesticated horse that he happened to find. The only way Bear didn't die while trying to wrangle that horse was that it was a domesticated horse that was planted and trained not to kill him. Makes me question everything else he's done, to be honest. Was he putting on the neck wrong was he kind of like it sounds like
Starting point is 00:21:46 even a domesticated horse would kick him in the head yeah I watched a video which said the same where it said that you know this guy was kind of taken through it and it said
Starting point is 00:21:54 yeah this is like a docile domesticated horse who's trained to be working with TV people and so you know you get horses in like London who
Starting point is 00:22:03 like police horses who don't react to loud bangs and that kind of stuff I guess it's one of those which by the way I know TV isn't real and we always say that
Starting point is 00:22:11 and people listen to this should remember that TV is TV and it's entertainment and that's the point but that is a bit of a fucking piss take that massively
Starting point is 00:22:18 and I think if they're going to start doing that give us a bit of a love interest have a sexy lady come out the forest a sexy lizard lady
Starting point is 00:22:26 yeah a nymph get me a nymph for crying out loud yeah would you be imagine that imagine if the whole
Starting point is 00:22:35 show of man versus wild was just normal just normal the final scene is bear taming that horse and the whole thing
Starting point is 00:22:43 just turns into avatar yeah exactly yeah everyone turns blue fantastic I've got a lot of time for that is Baird taming that horse and the whole thing just turns into Avatar. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, everyone turns blue. Fantastic. I would have got a lot of time for that. Right, we've got a message from... Joey.
Starting point is 00:22:53 It's the next one off the rank, after the Hitler one. Hello to both of you. Long time listener, first time emailer to the Luke and Pete show. Although you mirror him on my brother who sent you a story about him getting held up for eight hours in America
Starting point is 00:23:03 while they look for his visa, which was on the next page of his passport. I wanted to get in touch to share the most wonderful time sink that I have found, a completely AI-free AI program called Suno with a few simple prompts that creates you a whole song in the genre and on the subject
Starting point is 00:23:18 of your choosing. After doing the obvious, asking AI to make whole songs about how my friends are idiots, I asked it to write a song based on the following. Upbeat intro song to the Luke and Pete show, a twice-weekly podcast hosted by Luke Murr and Pete Donaldson. And here's what it returned within seconds. Roll the tape!
Starting point is 00:23:35 Grab a coffee, take a seat It's time to delve into the beat Luke and Pete, they're always on the go Podcast heroes putting on a show Talking football and life's absurdity Sharing stories with hilarity Luke Moore brings the knowledge, no doubt What Pete Donaldson's all about
Starting point is 00:24:10 Welcome to the Luke and Pete Show Where laughter and banter always flow Join us on this podcast ride Where laughter and banter always flow. Join us on this podcast ride. If flu can pee by your side. My favourite part is Luke Moore brings the knowledge, no doubt, while Pete Donaldson's all about. Luke, do you think that... You are all kind of all about, aren't you? I am all about, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:12 I mean, it is atrocious. All of this stuff is atrocious. I mean, it's incredible what they've managed to do and it's incredibly depressing, etc. But do you think that, like, could you ever see a place for AI in music? Well, what I liked about that song is that it does sound a bit like Carly Rae Jepsen,
Starting point is 00:25:32 which is frightening. Like, it does sound... The thing that I find, someone of my generation, I think, would find very difficult to get their head around is the idea that, like, there's nothing behind it. Like, it's just just it's all generated completely like randomly right or we'll just run it from like software basically yeah and it does make it um philosophically difficult for me i don't really like thinking about it much
Starting point is 00:25:57 and i understand that you know in recorded music for example if you've seen people using like auto-tune or not even the kind of t-pain auto-tune stuff which is really obvious but like a lot of recording techniques in pop music now if you actually watch how it's quote unquote produced they're able to like physically remove the tops and the bottoms of the note so that it doesn't sound off tune like the modulation the singer's voice can be changed. That's been happening for years. And that is really probably AI-fueled. Like that is a tool that does it automatically, right?
Starting point is 00:26:32 But is it kind of being trained on other pieces of music? Now, bearing in mind that record companies aren't backwards at coming forwards when it comes to maximising as much income as possible and not necessarily passing it on to the artists, but certainly maximising any use of samples, any use of copying and stuff. And they are willing to put a bit of money behind
Starting point is 00:26:54 pursuing legal avenues. Now, these AI models have all been trained on commercially available music. They may say that they haven't been, but they clearly have. Or they wouldn't sound like this. they wouldn't sound like these smeary affected approximations of something on in the charts so like why aren't record companies saying right let me see your models who is what music have you you I
Starting point is 00:27:19 want you to take our music out of the model unless you're willing to pay for it I think some record companies have done that Nick Cave did a really interesting thing on it he was asked about it in one of his talk things that he does
Starting point is 00:27:31 and he said that you have to understand that if you want to treat this I'm probably paraphrasing because it's ages ago when he said it but I don't want to put words in his mouth
Starting point is 00:27:40 but the general crux that I got from it was that if you want to call this a new art form a generated new art form that is completely separate from what we understand as human beings to be music fine but this cannot exist on the same plane as music because it's not about a human being's expression which is basically what music is and that's obviously quite high-minded but really it tells you another thing,
Starting point is 00:28:06 which is that so much of pop music is kind of cookie cutter and is kind of not dissimilar to this. I heard an Oasis one quite recently. I think we might have talked about it on here a while back, which it did sound a bit, the frightening thing about it was it sounded a bit like what Oasis would be doing
Starting point is 00:28:23 if they reformed now. Yeah. I attribute to classic Oasis softened, really. And I do think people need to get a handle on that because it can't be seen as the same art form or discipline as music in my view. And I think what we'll probably end up seeing is a reaction to it where people do what Neil Young was doing in the mid 70s, which was basically just plugging themselves into a desk and just putting it out and if you listen
Starting point is 00:28:47 to kind of classic Neil Young records now all the imperfections and the modulations and the mistakes they're just
Starting point is 00:28:56 they're still in there because he didn't like to muck about with that and it wasn't the dumb thing to muck about with that
Starting point is 00:29:01 he just plugged straight into the reel to reel straight from the desk and it was done and there would be no post really and so that would that would be And it wasn't the dumb thing to muck about with that. He just plugged straight into the reel-to-reel, straight from the desk, and it was done. And there would be no post, really. And so that would be what people start to crave after too much of this AI stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:13 I also would like to point out as well that this song that our mate Joey's generated, I'm not sure if we are Luke and Pete always on the go podcast heroes putting on a show. No. I think we do share stories with hilarity. I do bring the knowledge, no doubt. And the last room banter does always flow.
Starting point is 00:29:35 But I wouldn't necessarily say that you need to grab a coffee to enjoy it. So it's not even that accurate. No. And there's not even any mentions of like penis jokes and bums and stuff, which is really it's not to be quite frank yeah exactly cornerstone of our river that ai that ai model isn't even listening for crying out loud no uh let's get out of peter there is i didn't do microwave steaks again which is annoying me but we will do it next time all right we'll do it next
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