The Luke and Pete Show - Leave your facts at the door

Episode Date: June 1, 2020

It’s another Monday which means it’s another Luke and Pete show! Today we’re talking sun cream, paper walls and inappropriate songs. Plus, Pete tells us about his brand new theremin, we consider the whereabouts of noughties pop band Alphabeat, and we marvel at the Chicago horseman. Get stuck in and send us an email at [e-mail]***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or your preferred podcast provider. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How you doing? It is the Luke and Pete show. It is a Monday, pinch punch first of the first of the month. It is the first of June. I'm Pete's part of the equation. The fraction that is the Luke is going to say hello now. And it is an equation, a very simple one, but an equation nonetheless. It is, it is. How you doing Luke? All right? simple one but an equation nonetheless it is it is how you doing luke all right pretty good yeah not too bad summer's now officially here really in my mind i know summer i think officially starts at the summer solstice does it which is around the kind of middle mid to end of june but for me you're looking at someone you're talking to someone who's very very careful out in the sun so my big very pagan yeah my big power months for the summer june july august so we're now in the thick of it in my opinion right okay are you uh wearing your factor 75 what's high

what's the highest um factor you can go up i mean i don't go yeah i mean i think the highest you can go is factor 50 i think there's been there's been um studies done that said that after kind of factor 30 it's a bit bit much of a much as anyway but um key thing is to get uva and your uvb screening on the bottle it makes it needs to have both of those um otherwise you're still going to get some damage from the sun but i mean i'm not wearing any at the moment because i'm sat in my house and i'm not even i have to uh wear sun cream in the house but i do use a factor 50 as part of my face facial moisturizer pete if you'd like to know well we did we did start just before we came on probably something we probably should have wasted But I do use a Factor 50 as part of my facial moisturiser, Pete, if you'd like to know.

Well, we did start just before we came on. Probably something we probably should have wasted at least five minutes on on the Lincoln Pete Show was why the Japanese have paper walls. And you said that it was due to the lack of glass. And I sort of said, I don't know. And we've come to some sort of agreement where we sort of call it's probably something to do with light because it kind of lets a lovely diffused light into the house at a time where you don't really have windows so i think i think you're probably right on that one look i've come right around to it i i read something ages ago that said that

like the the the order in which certain materials in kind of pre-modern societies in europe in the far east the order in which certain materials were discovered and developed was different in the far east and it was in europe which then meant certain things like i think the for example the study glass was used widely in pre-modern europe i believe because of the worshiping of of and because of the christian faith and because of the prevalence of stained glass and that kind of stuff. That's what it was used for. It took off in a big way because people were using it a lot

in religious buildings. That wasn't the case in the Far East. I'm pretty sure they were using wooden things, like wooden sculptures and stuff, to worship their relative deities. So there's definitely something to do with the propensity for Europe to have a lot more glass than the Far East. I'd love someone to tell me because, as ever, I am taking a half-baked theory,

pretending I know something about it, when really I'm sort of scratching around on my hands and knees in the dark looking for any kind of clue to knowledge. That's what we're all about. We're all about the half-cocked and the half-baked. That's what I love about this show. We go in, we take no prisoners, and we're all about. We're all about the half cocked and the half baked. That's what I love about this show. We go in, we take no prisoners, and we bring no facts. That's the way.

Leave your facts at the door, baby. There ain't no room for them inside this house. Leave your research at the door. This isn't QI prick. What I will say is what I said to you earlier, Pete. Have you ever seen a greenhouse in Japan? Yes, I have. Oh, you have? Okay. Fair enough.

They made some delicious tomatoes. Yeah. What I'm doing at the moment is, maybe I'll have a crack at playing it on the Thursday show. I got for my birthday, given to me by a good lady friend, a theremin and oh yeah

this theremin this theremin arrived from chicago i believe um a man who um refused to say that the um theremin had been posted because first he said my first he said uh the reason why it's late is because of COVID and you should have more respect for the people who are dying of the disease. Right. When a cursory check a few days later, whether it was going to arrive in time for my birthday, he came up with, he sort of repeated that it's all about COVID and you should respect the people who have died. And then he brought up in the same email that his parents or one of his parents had died of COVID. I'm not saying he's talking nonsense, but I would bring up the parent bit

if I was going to try and get one over on someone before the postal workers and the random people that he doesn't know. So I'm not saying this theremin creator is a liar. I'm just saying there's a very good chance that he is a liar. Well, the joke's on him because I believe theremin manufacturers are key workers, so he should still be going to work. He should be delivering.

So have you received it? It's a lovely bit of work. I've received it. He's used a lot of hot snot, which is like a kind of glue that I think is non-electrically conductive, so you can basically just get away with doing some fast and loose soldering. He's used a lot of hot snot, so I'm hoping it's going to work. It seems to be in full working order, but maybe we'll hear on Thursday.

Yeah, I like a theremin because you can't properly tell whether someone is making the noise with their mouth or not or whether it's actually really happening and i i actually um maybe i'll find something for thursday which is a guy i found online who can do the best impression of a car horn i've ever seen with his mouth oh he's brilliant he sounds i'll try and find it just sounds so good um by the way pete speaking of um speaking of online videos and stuff i'm just right making a note of this car horn guy um speaking of um speaking of online video so when when big things happen and i don't propose we get into the the all the stuff's going around

the world at the moment because this is this is a little vacation from that but one one universal truth is that like anything big happens, whatever the stripe, you start to see videos that kind of surface online, normally on Twitter, sometimes on Instagram and all the rest of it, of interesting things that happen within those parameters, shall we say, right? And there have been three or four different occasions during what's been going on over the last week or so where I've seen a video and gone, boy, I mean, that's brilliant, man. And I've shared it and I've really enjoyed it. And what happens invariably a week or so on is that it then turns out that that video

or a selection of those videos weren't actually what they purported to be. And the whole thing is a bit of a letdown. Now, I think long-term, that's really detrimental to my state of mind because I want to believe in things are funny. Say again? Yeah.

That's the real crime here. No, no, it's not. It's funny, though. But is there a semi-serious kernel in there, Pete? And what I mean by that is, does it serve to undermine the very fabric of trust in the world around us because we're experiencing so many things online which later turn out to not be true it feels a bit like the world is changing in quite a big way when it comes to confidence in what

you're seeing with your own eyes or what you think you're seeing yes yes um but i guess hasn't that always been the case any um anybody seeks to kind of influence one's opinion and the opinion of the sleepy populace with seditious literature and literature that's made you feel a certain way. You know, you're talking about a particular video of a guy getting arrested and the tagline was, oh, this guy's getting arrested. But what the police don't know, he's actually an FBI agent. And the police, this guy is going, you two police guys are knuckleheads.

You're all idiots. You're stupid idiots. And for whatever reason, they don't end up arresting him. They put him in cuffs. They look at his wallet, find out that he's either not the person they're looking for or that he's somehow important to their life. And they un-arrest him. They undo his handcuffs. And that was sold as being, he's somehow important to their life. And they un-arrest him.

They undo his handcuffs. And that was sold as being, he's an FBI agent. I can't believe the police were so stupid to arrest an FBI agent because this guy is going crazy. With full rights, obviously. And about 10 seconds later, you send me that, and I'm like, that is delicious. What a delicious, you know know these policemen who are not covering themselves in any kind of fucking glory

from the west to the east coast over the past few weeks the past few days as well they are in a situation where they fucked up they're idiots and it's delicious and then you find out that that wasn't actually the case it's like there was a guy who was riding around Chicago on a horse

yes I'm talking about the horse. The one I'm talking about is the horse. Get to the good stuff. Oh, okay. The horse. There's a guy who's whipping it around Chicago on a horse. Bareback, by the way. Look, he's a friend of horses. And because he's in,

because obviously the inbuilt white guy racism we've got, we don't see a lot of black people on horses. It's just one of those things. We just don't see it because it's just not a thing that appears in our media. And so the title that someone's given it is, this guy, well, this N guy, this N stole a police horse.

And it's like, oh, that's brilliant. He stole a police horse. And then about three seconds later, you find out that this guy is famous in the chicago area for being the chicago horse guy and he just rides around town um you know showing off his horses and and and yeah and the disappointing thing pete is that i feel like i i kind of considered myself someone who that if there was a chic Chicago horse guy who was famous, that I would know about it. And I think I've let myself down.

Yeah, I think he was, I'm sure there was an advert with him on. There was for Guinness, but it was based in Compton. Oh, is that Compton, right? Okay. Los Angeles. So it might even be the same thing, yeah. But either way, he's like a guy who's known to the Chicago Hawks. But we should know.

Guys, I'm just saying, listeners to the Luke and Peter Shaw, if there is a Chicago Horseman, we need to hear more about him. Yeah, absolutely. How have the listeners not told us about that? I know, furious, absolutely. How have the listeners not told us about that? I know, furious, absolutely furious. But we are in a situation where I retweeted a video of some guys downtown in, I think it might even have been Chicago, may not have been, may have been Atlanta actually.

They look quite similar near the court buildings. And there was just this stack of bricks that builders had allegedly just left behind. You know a town centre, sometimes there's works going on. But these bricks weren't near any kind of works. The cobblestones that were just left around weren't near any kind of works. Put your tinfoil hat on, mate.

I'm just saying. I was putting them bricks there. So I retweeted that going, that's interesting. That's interesting. But then I didn't realize that the person who tweeted that originally was a Republican Senator and she was all fucking,

this is a George Soros, you know, rabble rouser kind of thing. And I was like, and all the replies were like, yep, George Soros, the left-wing conspiracy

to start a communist revolution and stuff. And I accidentally retweeted it and I was like, oh my God, that needs to come down immediately. Things are happening fast. Things are visceral. Things are interesting.

Things are scary. It's all – you've got to have your bullshit fucking turned up to a million. You've got to have your bullshit theremin turned up to a billion. What Pete's trying to say to everyone, to those listening, is to turn the fricking frog gay. That's what he's saying. Turn the fricking frog gay. Yeah, you do have to turn – listen, get your bullshit theremins out

and make sure you use them carefully because it's very, very important to do so. Pete, from that kind of news to a slightly, well, news of a different flavor, if I may, one of my favorite stories about life under lockdown manifested itself, I think, late last week. And it was in France. So do you see this about the two French brothers? under lockdown manifested itself, I think, late last week. And it was in France.

Did you see this about the two French brothers? I didn't know. Okay, so this French family had two boys. I think they might be twins. I think they're around 10 years old. They might be twins or they're just very close in age. They're just brothers and pals and all that good stuff. And when lockdown was going to happen um this french family they drove from paris uh to a small little uh village or little kind of holiday home type thing i think

it might have been their grandmother's home uh and and they decided they were going to lock down there and in the um in the um settling in of going to this new place the two kids asked their dad if they could build a den kind of thing in the garden so dad said yeah no problem of course you can and they said well what should we use dad and he said well go into the

room up go into one of the bedrooms find some of your grand's sheets from the bed and use the sheets and you can spread those out and make a big kind of den in the garden using them. So they did that. They brought the sheets down and the sheets were really heavy, right? And cut a long story short, when they unfurled the sheets,

two things dropped out of the sheets and they turned out to be gold bars worth £35,000 each. Holy moly, where did they come from? They found 70 grand's worth of gold that was purchased by the grandmother in 1967. Proof of purchase still intact. No one even knew they had them. Lovely.

It's not even, I was worrying that it was going to be like Natty Gold or something like that. I thought it was going to be something problematic. But no, there's something beautiful. The grandma of the piece bought some old gold. Yeah. New gold back in the day. And one of the things that sort of typifies your life

is that everything you kind of enjoy or look at or cover, that you have to double check that you're not doing something offensive at some point. Is that fair? Yeah, that is fair. And I think that's the right way to be. Although it is crippling. Do to be although it is crippling do you know it's the right way to think it is crippling let i mean you want in new york city you're watching a new york city police uh a member of the police uh

throwing up a uh a white power sign is he thinking in his head is this offensive i don't think so and he's getting filmed doing that so but there is a scale who knows who's watching me there is a yeah i'm not saying i'm i'm never going to get to that part i'm not i'm not saying that i would i'm just saying that i'm seeing a lot of images of a lot of white men doing some pretty fucking awful things pretty much constantly and they don't seem to be filmed or not yeah yeah that's exactly right. I mean, because I'm not being funny, but Marcus and Jim aren't here to defend themselves, mate, so you're out of order there.

All I'm saying is, Pete, there's a scale in there. Yeah, there's a bit of a... I think it's very revealing, Pete Donaldson, that what you're intimating is that if you went to one of your grandparents houses or whatever one of their old houses and you were cleaning it out or whatever i would accuse them of being nazi and you saw two bits of gold that were worth 70 grand your first thing would be like well that's probably nazi gold i can't use that not touching it yeah exactly get my

fingerprints off it be aware be aware be hyper aware politics is important be hyper aware. Politics is important. Be hyper aware. Luke, did you see that Robin's, I'm going to use the term that, I don't know who actually coined this, but sad banger, dancing on my own, Robin's 2010 track. Oh, I love Robin. He's now 10 years young.

Yeah. He has all that track. I like that tune. It wouldn't be my favourite of hers. I went through a phase, and this is quite a lot of Robin. Tell your boyfriend. That one.

No, my favourite is probably, my favourite record is probably Body Talk Part 2, which I don't think, that song you're talking about there. The one after that, wasn't it? Yeah, the one you're talking about is on Body Talk Part 1. Body Talk Part 2's got In My Eyes, Include Me Out.

It's got a tune with snoop dogg on it as well i think robin's absolutely wicked and the journey she's had as a songwriter is brilliant because she started off as this quite schmaltzy straight kind of love song writing pop artist and she just got like slowly more and more fucking badass as she went along and now she's really interesting do you remember she's that song show me love right at the start of her career which basically that to put it in perspective that that song show me love which came out years and years ago might even be like late 90s when she was very young um that was played on the supermarket radio that i worked at it was so kind of safe and dull and it's fine it's a perfectly fine song i don't mind it but like

the stuff she does now or i mean i haven't said that body talk those body talk records like 10 years old now but the stuff she's done more recently is is wicked man she did that song kanichiwa bitches as well which is one of the best pop songs ever in my opinion what happened to um alpha beat that's my question that is a very personal question chiefly because um that song fascination is one of the best one hit wonders ever i was absolutely convinced they were going to follow up scandinavian pop of that quality there's no way they've not got more in their locker turns out they didn't. The comment was bare. When I see like One Hit Wonders who have so many extraneous members,

I always worry. It's like Branford 3000, the French Canadian rockers. I like that song as well, by the way. What? Drinking In A Lair? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you ever listen to the debut album Glee? No, never heard of it.

It does not stand up to, you know, 10, 15 years later. I thought I used to love this album when I was a kid. I used to love it. It was my favourite bloody album. And I think I was the only person who bloody bought it. And then I listened to it back and I was like, wow, this is obscenely bad. One of the worst covers of Come and Feel a Noise you've ever heard in your life.

But Robin, apparently Dancing On My own it's not about love it's not about this not about that um it's basically apparently she reckons i don't buy this for a second personally but it is her love letter to the weather in stockholm come on now really but i think if i was if i was an artist i would make up loads of different stories about what different songs are around like bob dylan's done that his whole career basically um yeah but but speaking of alpha b i just looked them up um because the first time i've thought about them probably since the last time you mentioned to me um they they broke up in 2013 but they reformed late last year so maybe there will be more to come from them but you're absolutely right

they they've got six members i mean that's a lot of members for a pop band. Yeah, yeah. I worry about them. Yeah, I think rightly so, mate. But speaking of songs that don't quite mean what you think they mean, we will do some inappropriate song stuff as part of our email section after the break because that came up last week and we want to proceed with it this.

email section after the break because that came up last week and we want to uh but to proceed with it this that is an ad break and if it isn't why is it not why does everyone say that it is uh back with luke pete show me pete donaldson and luke mo if you want to get to the show how can they get in touch with the show and by there i mean the people with hands and fingers and eyes and email addresses hello at luke andPeteShow.com. But what I would say is if you don't have all the full complement of bodily functions, you're still welcome to email in. There's no judgment here. Ask someone to write a letter.

We should get a postal kind of PO box so people can send us stuff. But you're the kind of person who gets kind of anxious about receiving mail, aren't you? Yeah, I mean, I've worked in radio longer than you have, and I've eaten my fair share of poisoned donuts. When you're as universally hated as I am. So you've got to be careful. That's all I'm saying.

I received a package in the mail today, and it was a book sent to me by my wife's uncle um about something i'm interested in so that was a very nice surprise and it came beautifully wrapped in a little bit of wrapping paper and a ribbon it was a very very nice surprise actually oh beautiful you know what you're thinking though pete if you get a package and and it's that heavy you think oh that better not be a bill because i'm in big trouble if it is. And it turns out to be 600 pages of something interesting instead. Do you ever – you're being incredibly coquettish about the subject of this book. I'm a little bit worried.

Do I need to call somebody? Is this Nazi gold? Is it about Nazi gold? What was I going to say? Yeah, I think that – do you ever get – is there ever a time in your life, like all the listeners, I'm talking like people who are like plus 50, 60, if there are anybody listening. I think we proved there were people over 50 listening. Do you ever get to a point in your life where if you get a letter from like HMRC or some kind of bank, is there ever a part of you that your stomach that rolls over, that doesn't roll over? Because whenever i get an official letter from anyone i'm a little bit oh i don't know what this is

and yeah but it's interesting it speaks to how good but it speaks to the type of personality you are i think because it's interesting you say that i totally get why you say that but for me you know the kind of person i am i'm'm quite combative and quite sort of forthright. I'm not saying that is a good thing or a bad thing. It's just how I am. So when I see a letter that's got HMRC on it, I just think, right, come on then, you fucking wanker. Let's have it.

And I get straight in there. I almost get quite angry about it. I'm not nervous about it. If I got an email through that I knew I was expecting a certain amount of news and it was like a binary thing, it would be good news or bad news, I just want to get straight to it. I could never, ever, ever be one of those people who takes that letter and puts it in the cupboard for a week while I build myself up to open it.

I am straight in there. I'm like a greyhound, mate. So for me, I never have that feeling. I kind of have an angry feeling, and then obviously i get angrier or happier depending on how it goes taking the bull by the horns you've just won 50 in the sweepstake you're like yes and then you realize it's all a scam yeah but but sometimes the hmrc thing comes in and it's genuinely very good news like a big rebate or something i've never had that i've never had good news, like a big rebate or something. I've never had that. I've never had good news from them.

I mean, I've never had bad news from them, to be honest. Please don't order me. Austin Sweeney on the emails. As we said before, if you want to get to the show, hello at littlepeachshow.com. Austin Sweeney has got a touch.

Hi, guys. Hope you're doing well. As I say, we are, and I hope you are too, Austin. As an add-on to the last episode, about jurassic park and the corresponding cgi chat oh steady um i'm a student learning compositing which as pete said is taking the cg objects or characters taking the lighting and the original footage and trying to make it all fit seamlessly and now there are hundreds of thousands of artists more skillful and more experienced than myself but

from the people i've talked to in the studios i've had the opportunity to visit the number one thing is the client aka the director has the final say on a shot i heard one story where the client wasn't a fan of the original shot the artist put up and was asked to be redone they wanted to change i believe the color of a lens flare or something smallish like that the artist did 93 different versions um the 93rd wasn't liked so they just renamed the original they sent in and of course they loved it that's's a classic bit of design kind of story, isn't it? Yeah, you go back to the original design and you've talked it through with them,

and then they realize that the first one that they saw is the one that they love. This is just one of many stories I've been told before, even setting foot in the industry about what to expect. A good example as to why the artists who work on Cats or Justice League or Sonic, who have had people trash their effects, can be really upset by. At the end of the day,

the artists themselves don't have a say in the final look. I can't wait to get into the industry. I mean, I don't know why Austin on that. It sounds really,

it sounds satisfying and then ultimately not very satisfying. And maybe work on a movie or have a shot that you guys will enjoy. Austin, Squamish, BC Canada,

and he's also appended his Vimeo show reel as well so oh very nice a bit yeah yeah i feel like um this is maybe a bit old-fashioned but i feel like you are gonna have to stand by your work even if you don't like the criticism you get i mean we have to do that right pete yeah but we are a lot less talented than people who can composite um I speak for you as a polygons of it's polygons of uh of data and but I do I do I do think that I mean I'm I know nothing about the film industry so I'm probably talking absolute bullshit here but in all the work I've done in the past like and this might sound a bit rich Pete from where you're sitting I think I've learned

that the best things are collaborative right so if if you're doing a radio show and you've got a podcast and you've got a producer who likes an idea and you don't like the idea you have to talk it through and it must be the same thing in in other creative industries like this is why i like this shot and the director should be like taking on board people's inputs before making the final decision surely yeah but i know but i do not think that directors in particular are these kind of virtuoso kind of like invariably men who just don't want to be told that they're wrong?

Do you remember when Christian Bauer went mental at McG about the director of photography on that Terminator film? McG, are you going to deal with this prick? Blah, blah, blah. Who is the McG in that situation? Hey? Who was the McG in that particular situation? McG is the name of a director he goes by the name mcg mcg yeah i wouldn't work with that director

i he i wouldn't trust him to employ the right lighting technicians his name is joseph joseph mcginty but he goes with a name yeah i mean you could probably tell the kind of guy he is by the name that he and to be fair let's be absolutely I mean, you could probably tell the kind of guy he is by the name that he's... And to be fair, let's be absolutely clear on this. You can probably imagine the kind of guy he is by the films he makes, which all look like they might be quite bad. So, but then he is working with Christian Bale, but Christian Bale got out of that, didn't he,

by saying that he was actually in character at the time, which is a lovely get out, by the way. That is a bit of a get out, isn't it? That's, yeah. But yeah, I'm pretty sure some other people argued that the lighting guy shouldn't have been adjusting the lights in the middle of like a rehearsal for a shot or something. I mean, I don't know.

No, no. It was fun. It was genuinely very entertaining. What about this email, Peter, on the subject of inappropriate song something we discovered a week or so ago and people are emailing in now with their own suggestions for inappropriate songs this is after turning japanese by the vapors a song about masturbation is always used um to refer to the beautiful and wonderful country of Japan. Williams emailed in saying,

here's a well-known inappropriate song for you, Foster the People's Pumped Up Kicks. Remember that, Pete? Yes, it was a song that on Absolute Radio we had to not play with alarming frequency because of the contents and reasonings of why the song exists. frequency because of the contents and and reasonings of why the why the song exists yeah so it's about um it's about um a kid shooting up a school basically um but um doesn't mean it

doesn't mean it stopped o2 using it for its priority moments uh advertising campaign though so it's a good point actually yeah yeah but pop music can be important but it doesn't necessarily need to be it does limit its um application in different places but the thing the thing about that though is the thing about that is right you are working in the marketing in the marketing department and you're a decision maker so you're probably quite high up the food chain and it's a big company o2's marketing generally is pretty prominent right you'd be everyone can picture it everyone knows what it is And you're selecting a song.

It's probably been selected by some kind of agency. You and I, Pete, both know the amount of people that kind of insert themselves into processes when it comes to advertising and marketing. Not one of them has listened to the lyrics of a song and said, do you know what? We probably shouldn't use it. Because as soon as it's been unveiled what it's about,

no one's going to want to. It's just mad. It's baffling. It's absolutely baffling. But I like to think that it's been unveiled what it's about, no one's going to want to, it's just mad. It's baffling. It's absolutely baffling. But I like to think that it's this situation. I am the director of a company, of the creative agency, and I go, I like this song.

Let's use this song. And then people go, well, we can't use that song because it's about this. And the director goes, did you hear what I said the first time? And that's how that particular situation. Well, that's definitely my experience of working with you pete yeah exactly i want what i want and i will get what i get i'm not doing it give me my nazi gold yeah i want to get a follow-up on that gold story yeah let's figure out what the hell's going on there turns out they spend it all on Skittles. Oh, lovely old job. Yeah, we managed to pass through three emails. I think that's possibly

a record of the modern Luke and Pete Shaw era. Yeah, it probably is actually, yeah. If you want to get in touch with Luke and Pete Shaw, hello at Luke and Pete Shaw is the way to do it. Thank you to everyone who got in touch this week via emails, Twitter, sometimes people just shouting it to me in the street

Gooey Duck, the G-E-O-D-U-C-K the Gooey Duck is the animal I was referring to last week on the look of Pete Shaw, the thing is I was referring to Shaw previously that I actually named the Gooey Duck, the Geoduck

in, so I already gooey duck, the geoduck, uh, in. So I already named checked it. Um, right. But you just named checked it wrong. No, I named,

I think, I believe I named checked it correctly. I might have not pronounced it correctly, but those guys didn't hear that. They just had the last one. So. Oh, right.

Oh, and Pete, we should also say thank you very much to everyone. And there has been a lot of people who've got in touch through all those different, uh, mediums or media uh announcing the release of a bottle of pinot noir celebrating the democracy manifest guy called get your hands off my pinot uh we acknowledge it we thank you very much for bringing it to our attention it's not really there's not really anything to say about it but thank you very much for uh for bringing it to our attention um yeah i i like the um i like the um other meme which i think we mentioned last week about what is the

charge a succulent drive to barnard castle or whatever it was which i enjoyed as well so it's the gift that keeps on giving jul Assange there. It really is. But that's enough time for today, isn't it, Peter? We'll come back on Thursday, will we? We'll be back on Thursday where I'll be serenading everyone with a wonderful rendition of Pete and his ceremony. And I'll try and find the car horn guy to treat people to as well. But thank you very much indeed for listening.

Thanks for getting in touch. If you did, if you'd like to get in touch with us in the future about any subject we've talked about today, or indeed any other subject you think would be worthy of discussion, it's hello at Luke and Pete show.com. And we are at Luke and Pete show on Twitter. Thank you very much indeed for your company as ever,

Mr. Pete Donaldson. Farewell. And it's goodbye from me as well. This was a Stakhanov production.