The Luke and Pete Show - Luke vs Karen

Episode Date: July 31, 2023

An unnamed “clever, handsome” man who may or may not be Luke has started a war with one of his neighbours that is illegally trying to save a parking space. The Robin Hood of parking, I hear you say?Elsewhere, we hear about a policeman that got caught throwing naughty magazines out of his car window and a listener tells us about some quite incredible fried egg-flavoured crisps.Want to get in touch with the show? Email: [e-mail] or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow.We're also now on Tiktok! Follow us @thelukeandpeteshow. Subscribe to our YouTube HERE. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the LukaPicture, I'm Pete Donaldson, joined by Mr. Luki Moe. Luki Moe, have you seen that Spotify have put up their prices this week? I am astounded that I am going to have to pay one pound more or something a month to listen to my favourite album from Pulp. I was about to say, it's a strong price to pay because what you could do is just buy that Mad Caddies album. I know, right? You'd have it forever then.

I only like one song, so I'll just buy one of those Fat Records compilations. So I get a song from them, a song from NoFX, a song from the Swedish outfit Mill and Colin. Are you trying to tempt me into ranting about Spotify now? Oh, I don't know. I didn't realise you were an anti-Spotify activist. No, I'm not really. I have many opinions, most of them ridiculous.

What I would say about Spotify is that they sent that through on email and then they sent it through when you first open the app and they say you're okay with this uh and i click no and all it said was okay i just i just thought i'm gonna click no to see what happens yeah yeah and i thought it would take me through to a cancellation page it fucking didn't no okay because to cancel on that kind of stuff you have to call up some office between the hours of 12 and 12.30am.

I believe Spotify would allow you to do it online but there are some certain unscrupulous outfits like the Times I think was an absolute

fucker to cancel. I had to ring them up I had to ring up a very aggressive salesman while I had COVID to cancel a prescription,

a subscription rather. What did he say? He was just being an absolute dickwad. Like, you know, well, look, if you're waylaid with COVID, mate, like probably a great time to enjoy our great articles. Cancel the account! Cancel the bloody account! I'm crying out loud.

What a bellend. Oh, dear. I would just say I'm actually, look, I'm happy to be a Spotify customer. I use it all the time. So I can't really complain about the value for me because we have a family plan and we all use it a lot. I know people have got to be in their bonnet about Spotify,

about how much artists get paid. And it actually kind of annoyed me for the first time properly the other day because I do think that it's only half the story when people complain about spotify not paying artist because i think they do pay the record labels a reasonable amount of money it's like billions by now but the record labels don't pass it on so it's partly the record labels fault and they're getting these major labels are getting away with murder on that front i think so it's not just that's not the full picture but what i would say is that um i read a really interesting interview um with a guy called

vinnie riley um the other day who is the basically the main guy in a band called the daruti column you heard of them no um so like a post-punk group um and on factory records you know the same label as um happy mondays and all that kind of stuff but they're a lot more thoughtful and kind of a bit more jazzy than that and um Vinnie Riley is his project, basically. And he was also, he played guitar on a couple of early Morrissey records. He's really highly regarded and respected. And the Daruti Column have put out about 20-odd albums. And he's now quite an old man.

He's been probably approaching about 70 years old. And he's like a proper artist probably approaching about 70 years old and he's like a proper artist he's done an amazing amount of stuff that's been critically acclaimed and all that kind of good stuff um but he's living like disability benefit in like a bungalow in outside manchester or something he's on the bones of his ass and i thought oh do you know what that's a really interesting article he seems like a really interesting dude uh he had a really tough life i'm gonna go and um buy a dary colin album which i did i went and bought um one of the records um lc which is like the kind of highly most highly rated one i think it's their second record and um i looked on spotify and millions of plays millions right

but the guy's written and recorded music that mill it has been streamed millions and millions of times a month and he's got nothing and I just thought to myself that's not fucking right I know it's like the pennies dropped for Luke I everyone says this all the time but you know it's I think when it comes down to kind of the top end of recording artists like your Ed Sheeran's or whatever he's making loads of money from touring anyway he's a literal billionaire is he apparently yeah how he writes for a lot

of people doesn't he and he's probably made some savvy investments but he's just so marketable little little lad

but he I'm really surprised to hear that yeah me too do you remember to support people if you look can I just finish my

point I know it's boring but very quickly buy a t-shirt so stream if you want to stream but if it's not as you think my point I know it's boring but very very quickly buy a t-shirt so stream if you want to stream but if it's not as you think to yourself

fucking hell I listen to these guys a lot I really love this record I really love this album if you can afford to just purchase a product like Pete says a t-shirt

a gig ticket a record whatever one product just to show your support if everyone did that it wouldn't be a problem I don't reckon

consider not stealing the catalytic converter if you're halfway through signing it off just sort of go you know people are doing that on our streets the whole time are they how do you protect yourself from it i think it's i think it's you've got a juicy catalytic converter i think they target cars of a certain era don't they which have modern enough to have catalytic converters but not modern enough to have the protections inherent in the modern car or the more sort of streamlined version

of them i guess but it's always been all i know is that um us all anyone ever talks about on the on our streets whatsapp group do you think that like getting this stuff uh like if you go to a tip not a tip like a breaker's yard who were selling this stuff off like surely it's quite easy to sort of go i'm i't take these catalytic converters. The police are watching me like a hawk. This would be a really easy crime to... Because, like, you're selling... It's titanium, isn't it?

Is it titanium? The thing that... Platinum. It's platinum, isn't it? Platinum. I mean, it must be quite easy to stop people selling catalytic converters. Because it's so obvious that you've got them.

But you could just say that it's from your own car, right? What, I've stolen off my own catalytic converter? Here you go. I've got a new car. I'll have 100 quid, please. It's just from my own car. I've burnt through 15 cars this week. I've been really, really busy, yeah.

I'll be totally honest with you. I don't even know what they look like. I don't know anything about cars. All I know is that my street is obsessed with selling old baby clothes and people stealing catalytic converters. What a depressing little WhatsApp page. Endlessly populated by videos from people's ring doorbells of just a man walking down the street.

Just a man minding his own business. This man was walking down the street at 3am. Mind your own business. It's fucking London for crying out loud. Actually, there's an amazing pitch battle in my street that i'm involved in at the moment right you got you're like this there's a woman across the road from me and she's not my favorite neighbor she's a dickhead basically right and she's like a proper if she's american she'd be called a karen right right she's always moaning in the whats group. She's always fucking complaining. And what she does down our street,

which is basically just a terraced street, and there's no off-street parking, and people park down each side of the road, right? I'm sure you know what I mean. Well, you've been here, so you know what I mean. And there's no restrictions. Right. So anyone could park there.

Yeah. It was kind of sometimes a bit of an issue because there's a bus garage down the road, and I think a lot of the bus drivers drive to our street, park there, and then kind of sometimes a bit of an issue because um there's a bus garage down the road i think a lot of the bus drivers drive to our street park there and then go to work yeah um but there's loads of space it's a massive road there's three or four roads either side that you can park on as well it's not the end of the world i've never not been in front of car parking space in nine years of living here so in perspective it's fine okay and sometimes i have to park up the road and have to carry the baby and all the stuff down. It's just one of those things.

This woman, every time she leaves the fucking house in her car, she puts like two red cones outside her house. That's naughty. You can't do that. We have the same sort of vibe with people who have these kind of weird signs, these weird blue signs they've got from somewhere. And they've put them in the front of their garden and it says by the yeoman of 20... Magna Carta. It's proper Magna Carta

vibes. They put these little shitty signs up and they're not legally actionable. I don't know why they're allowed to do it. So it kind of like stops people from parking outside their homes. It's absolute bullshit. Well, in our case someone on the street has started taking those red cones and putting them in the bin.

A random bin on the street. Right, okay. So that when they come back, they can't park anywhere. And I don't know who it is, but I support them wholeheartedly. You support them wholeheartedly and you think they're handsome. And long may this battle continue because they're probably quite clever, quite handsome.

Yeah. And they've definitely told their wife about it. Yeah. And she fully supports them. Yeah. You're having quite the week, aren't you? I am, actually. I am.

Do you think that you will be noticed on the ring doorbell? Because there was a bit of a scandal. I didn't actually think about that, but I don't think they've, I don't think that House will be noticed on the ring doorbell? Because there was a bit of a scandal. I didn't actually think about that, but I don't think that House Unquestioned has got one. Right, but others will be able to identify that maybe close allies to her Karen Cause. But you know that some criminals just want to be caught subconsciously.

I think I might be one of them. Yeah, you're just kind of waiting. You tick-tock, tick-tock, yeah. I would say that there was a guy who um popped into someone's garden and just stole a couple of um big plants he just sort of stooped down picked picked them and then walked off um and and and put them and basically just put them outside his house not that far away and he was caught on the doorbell. That's stupid. That is stupid. And they sort of went round and he sort of went,

oh yeah, sorry, I was drunk. And he was going, it was like eight in the morning and you weren't. We saw you on the ring doorbell. There was a guy in America actually, four years in Brooklyn,

on a Brooklyn sidewalk. Somebody kept throwing pornography out of the window um uh green in green point uh somebody who'd been thrown he'd been ripping up um pages of 1970s porn magazines junk mail bibles old readers digest stuff like that and just tossing them out of his window and tossing them out of his car window sorry uh every sunday for four years. Nobody knows why. And the ring doorbells didn't have enough kind of like HD footage

of this guy ripping up the magazines and throwing them out the window. But this street was plagued by the sheer volume of this pornography, Reader's Digest,

children's books, Bibles floating down the street. This is weird. Very weird. NYPD Sergeant John Truszyusinski was identified and received a slap on the wrist for years of excessive littering on the street uh in april incredible just throwing pornos out of his window is john krasinski the guy who plays jim in the office as well uh john krasinski i think i believe but uh yeah incredible stuff i

don't think you should be comparing me to these people I'm basically some kind of like car parking space Robin Hood type character right okay yeah you're stealing from the blatant criminals

I mean you've just dubbed yourself in there haven't you you forgot that you were under the auspices of I don't think moving a cone from one place to another place

shouldn't be you're putting it in the bin Luke that's not moving it from one place to another people should be littering then way of crime. You're putting it in the bin, Luke. That's not moving it from one place to another. People should be littering then. That's putting it in the bin, isn't it? It's littering. I'm doing the public a service. Did you...

When you put it in the bin... When you... If you put it in the bin, did you... Like, do you put it in a different bin every single time or what? Or what? I don't understand. Do you put it in a different bin every time or do what or what i don't i i don't understand like do

you put it a different bin every time or do you put it in your bin or her bin all i'm saying is sometimes some things are casually left on the street and i tied them up yeah that's it the tidier do you mean do you mean that uh do you mean that like how are you doing are you waiting until they leave the house i'm not putting cats in the bin. On CCTV, you look like the cat bin lady, I'm sure. I'm secretly hoping I go viral. You'll be the new cat bin lady. The thing that annoys me about it is that she just can't be asked to walk.

Right. She's not elderly. She's not got any children. She just doesn't want, and sometimes she even gets her henpecked husband to put the cone out when she drives off right okay i just think it's appalling it's appalling behavior it's really unpublic spirited we're on the same boat here it's basically the car parking space in our street equivalent of stealing a life vest on a sinking ship from someone who needs it more than you i mean i wouldn't necessarily put it like that, but I'm very proud

of you, Luke. I will say that we've had similar situations. We don't have any room on our street for cars anymore. They've extended all of the yellow lines too far, and I have had three... So where do you park them? I've had three double yellow line

fines in recent history, since I got the new car it is enough to it is enough for me to turn gamma and start quite a magna carta when i think of people not being able to park outside their own homes yeah i can't i can't even park down the road this is not where do you leave the car then i just leave it down the road like i got the jag i leave the jag down the road because it's just I can't park near my house. Which is probably the best because can't people steal your car if you have your keys in the house or something?

They can use those little hacking devices to copy your keys. Yeah, so I hear about that but then my car's got like an immobiliser and it's got a thing on the app so I know where it is at all times. So if anyone's just stole it and the police turned up I'd say, well, there it is. There it is. Go and get it. And they go, we don't really do that anymore.

Yeah, go and get it yourself. Go and get it yourself, dickhead. I've got other shit to do. Go and talk to some blokes in a lock-up. Hey, give me that back. Nope. Is it basically true that police don't really investigate crimes anymore, or is that just like a Daily Mail thing?

I think that level of crime they probably don't. They're like, I mean, we've just got enough on. But I remember you saying this during the riots and stuff back in the day. The entire public order and crime and the police only work when most people tell the truth. Oh, it's a thin line of civilisation. Yeah, they just don't. If another 10% of us just decided not to get involved with the whole staying on the right side of the law it just everything would fall a bit

absolutely and like if you look at um if you look at the fact that in 2022 so obviously the london rights were a long time ago but 2022 there's something like 25 000 frontline police officers yeah in total right and how many people live in london that's in the met and how many people live there's something like 25,000 frontline police officers. Yeah. In total. Right? And how many people live in London? That's in the Met. How many people live under the Met's jurisdiction?

Five million? Yeah. Wild, isn't it? It's absolutely wild. So basically, if people all decided they didn't want to put up with this shit anymore, there's not really anything anyone can do. And even when, and this is particularly pertaining to something like the Londonondon riots even when the police decide to act is very little they can do

anyway and that's that's that's the real key thing i don't think people fully appreciate what action can you take as a decision making police ranking police officer in that situation because if you go hard on it you're basically going to make it worse you've essentially just got to let burn it burn itself out yeah because bearing in mind that the london riots were essentially formed around the idea that a um a black man was arrested and oh sorry he was killed um unfairly that's a basic freeze the genesis of it was police brutality you can't stymie that by engaging it was police brutality you can't stymie that by engaging

in more police brutality it's going to make it a lot fucking worse so essentially what has to happen is like some kind of massive community action where the whole thing

just decides to stop because people intervene or it just burns itself out it's frightening mate tell that to Daryl Gates the head of the LA police department in the 90s

tell that to him that's how that kicked off you're talking about the Watts riots Department in the 90s tell that to him that's how that kicked off you're talking about the Watts riots yeah or the Rodney King riots Rodney King yeah I mean that is

I mean the thing about that that is if you watch that back now some of our younger listeners will be too young to remember that if you watch back the Rodney King thing it is absolutely unfathomable

yeah yeah it is unfathomable it's completely ridiculous yeah and it was only, you know, because it gets caught on, you know,

the people are able to experience it. It's just incredible, isn't it? And the thing about it I find interesting is did you see that thing like earlier last week about the woman with her son?

Yeah, the bus thing. On the bus? Yeah. I mean, what are they doing? I just think it get like, emotions get to a certain point. But I mean, if it's just one police officer, you sort of go,

all right, well, you know, some people can't get their shit together. But there's just loads of them. And you're like, what are you getting out of that? And she had a ticket. She had a ticket anyway, yeah. What are you getting out of that? I read something really fucking interesting about this when I was studying American politics.

And it was about the problems the police have in the US particularly, but in this country as well. And I think Malcolm Gladwell's touched on it a wee bit as well. Is the way that police officers are recruited is expressly designed to target certain types of men. Right. expressly designed to target certain types of men. And so, and the example I read about, which was used, was this, they had a massive problem with it in New Zealand. So you know the type of people who want to be a police officer, right?

And in the US, it's even more geared towards, like, ex-servicemen. And they're even kitted out with ex-service gear, and they're essentially militarized. Yeah, hyper-militarized. And in the UK, similar in terms of, it's not similar in terms of that kind of hardware, but it's similar in terms of how people it attracts

because all advertising is designed to target certain people. And of course, there's been a much more of a diverse recruitment drive in the Met recently, but the same type of people are being not only recruited, but also promoted. And then you end up with this situation that you had in this particular instance with the bus, where it's just a bunch of fucking little Hitlers who won't back down, who are all about their ego, who just behave in a way that's completely unacceptable and lose all perspective.

Well, there was an issue in New Zealand with police brutality and police violence and the rest of it. And they completely changed how they approached advertising and marketing to get new recruits in. new recruits in and the and the advertising campaign i have to dig it out was very obviously targeted at people like you know are you someone who's well organized or intelligent or all these different things right when compared with the kind of shit you normally put out with some of the some of the police recruitment videos in the south of the united states are just parody stuff yeah basically do you want to fucking fire a gun? Do you want to drive a big car? Do you want to tell people what to do?

And that's how you end up with this fucking situation. But anyway, I don't know where I'm going with that. But that's basically the situation. That's what it seemed to me was happening on that bus thing. And also, I mean, I'm not trying to compare myself to that kind of traumatic experience because I didn't personally find it that traumatic but the way um i was i got fucking busted for told you about it going for that red light right um and i was kind of fine

with it i've made a mistake it was my fault i took the fucking fine and i paid it but the way the police officer spoke to me was a fucking joke. Right, yeah, yeah. It's just embarrassing. I've said it before, you can have the fine, you can have the fine or you can tell me off, but you can't have both. Just give me one, not the other. Did you see on the NYPD, they dumped this big bus in a low-income area with loads of Nintend's and Xboxes and PlayStation

and stuff and covered it in, covered it in like pictures of Shrek and stuff. And it's known as the Shrek bus. And basically most of the public defenders are going, don't go in that bus. Cause all they're doing is mining informants, stealing DNA. That's all it fucking is, trying to link kids in the community to these crimes. Do not touch a controller. Do not go in the game bus. Do not hang out with Shrek in the NYPD Shrek bus. You and I will be in there.

I'll be in there. Yeah. I'll have a lovely time. I'll turn informant for a game of Mario Kart very easily. Yeah, fine. I have done with my mum. Yeah. In the past.

She's taken it away and then wouldn't give it back until I informed. That's funny. What an interesting technique. There's loads of TikToks full of that stuff in the US. When you go to the US and you flick through your tiktok page it's full of um i think it takes a while for the algorithm to work out that i'm 42 and british but like it's full of um videos from basically public defenders saying here's the five things to not do or say when the police pull you over i like i like it's uh um 99 problems what 99 problems can teach us about

consent and and uh whether you're allowed to search a car or not. There was like a five-question one the other day. Off the top of my head, it was like, the police officer will ask you where you're coming from. Just tell him it's none of his business. The police officer will ask you if you can search a car. Tell him no. And the thing about that is, it kind of goes unsaid about how often

the police in that situation are trying to get an edge that you don't need to give them, but they don't tell you that. So they're not playing with a straight bat anyway. So the idea would be, I'll ask you where you're coming from, because if you say some area that I know there's been a crime, I can fuck you for that. Particularly if you have no power under a young African-American man

or something like that, right? And if you don't know that you don african-american man or something like that right and um if you don't know that you don't have to say you're fucked and even if you do say none of your business they might just pull you for that for being because they'll think because i've got a couple of mates who are police officers who say to me they run the fucking the dickhead test basically and if you're a dickhead to them they'll just fucking hit you with everything which i think is again bullshit because that's not what they're supposed to be doing they're supposed to be ensuring the protection of their citizens right so the whole thing is everything which i think is again bullshit because that's not what they're supposed to be doing they're supposed to be ensuring the protection of their citizens right

so the whole thing is twisted anyway i think anyway let's have a break pete when we come back we'll squeeze a couple more emails in because that is a lot of police chat all right you and i are a bit like um public enemies number one and two aren't we we are yeah uh i'm mr donaldson public enemy number two that's what you're talking about. I don't know. Just go to a break. Just go to a break. We're back with Luke and Pete Shaw. I'm Pete, joined by Luke, and we have got some emails for you. Emails we didn't read out on last week's show. That's how time works.

I'm going to read an email about crisps. Yes, okay then, right. From Darren. Yes. He says, hi guys, is Luke still into those overpriced Torres crisps yes okay then right from darren yes he says hi guys is luke still into those overpriced torres crisps um i find them a bit rich personally um i would say that i am still into them but because our domestic situation has changed i don't really tend to do amazon fresh anymore so i don't order them and i've never seen them on sale in sainsbury's so in theory i am still into them

i'm eating them for a while um anyway darren says i was killing some time and selfishness the other day and checking out the willpower testing snacks that they've got when i did an actual double take next to the standard torres flavors like black truffle and the iberico ham was something so unexpected that i didn't even pause to contemplate the enormity of the financial decision i was about to commit to fried egg flavored crisps fried egg initial thoughts donaldson i'm thinking i don't think egg fried egg has that much to it you need a lot of salt in there but i don't know what a fried egg like just so the bits that just got powdered slightly smoky egg flavoring. I guess. And then Darren says, I handed over the £4.99, which is mental

for a packet of crisps, pinged off a couple of messages to tell people what I just purchased and headed back to my car to give them a try. It's the most bizarre crisp experience I've ever had because, fair play to Torres, they do taste exactly like fried egg. Yeah, I mean, fair play. It's those kind of flavours that you...

If you go to america there's always and you've got any sort of tourist trap worth its salt uh and they will sell you bacon flavored soda and uh like weird like something like that's your measure is it yeah there's probably enough salt kick around but yeah it'll be saltwater taffy, sticks of rock, candy canes, and then there'll just be a big fridge full of soda that tastes like surprising things. And they all kind of taste like the surprising things. But should we be surprised? Because everything we eat is a joke anyway.

A lot of the flavoured stuff is just created by seven different chemicals mixed together that kind of approximate what the original thing was. Well, I'm surprised they do taste exactly like fried egg. Darren says, look, my opinion of Torres remains unchanged, but I'm going to tell everyone I came across these things because they're bizarre. Very curious to know what you think if you get to try them. Cheers, Darren.

I will try them if I see them, for sure. But I would just kind of expand on this entire debate by saying that if you really think about it and you're really honest with yourself several flavours of crisp don't taste like the stuff they say they do anyway like roast chicken crisp don't taste of chicken

bacon crisp don't taste of bacon yeah it's all just kind of it's probably something deep in our psyche that makes us think that it's all well I think it's like the visual cues, right? Like the packet colour and the name and all that stuff. But, I mean, I think if, because we're so well-versed to know what, say, Smoky Bacon Walker's tastes like now,

we'll say, oh, that's bacon. But it doesn't taste like bacon. I don't know anyone who says that they actually think they genuinely taste like bacon. So, ultimately, it doesn't really matter, right? No, no. I agree. So, what about Torres? I'm still going to have the fried egg flavours.

I really want a packet. Yeah, do it. And they're only a fiver. It's an absolute steal. Tom has said, Hi, guys. Long-time listener who has never had an excuse to email in, but imagine my joy when the topic of movies being used as American propaganda

came up this week, and particularly Luke's mention of Rambo. Believe it or not, my dissertation was written on the exact subject. In the end, yes, I concluded Luke was absolutely correct with his hypothesis. Washington did indeed seek to continue hostilities with the Soviet Union and Vietnam via Hollywood. Cheers, and keep up

the great work, your pal Tom. Rory tells me Tom has also emailed in a copy of his dissertation, which either of you, brackets Luke, want to read. And I said, yeah, I'll read it. But I will give it a read, Tom, and I'll ruminate on it because it's a subject I'm genuinely interested in. I'll feed it to ChatGPT so I'm not going to steal your thoughts.

I was thinking about that. Actually, because the way my brain works, I had a graduation thing a while back, and when I sat there waiting to have my name called out, I started to think, oh, I wonder how many people here did chat gpt for the disc um i don't know i mean isn't it quite obvious to feed in i mean i've never read anything out of chat gpt that hasn't been really noticeably chat gpt if you know what i mean like really obviously a piece of shit yeah well i think when you break it down into the component parts of how you write

a dissertation particularly a long one a good level i think that the amount of work it would take to not write it yourself using chat dpt you'd have to check and source every single thing it wrote anyway yeah and then if it And if it wasn't correct, then you just have to change it. And if you have to change it, then you have to double check if it comes up later. I think it's probably more trouble than it's worth if you genuinely want to get a good mark. ChatGBT is one of those things where

whenever I've done something and it's taken me more than a couple of minutes, I've thought, ah, I could have kind of, that would have been a really good application for AI. Because it's just like a big Google, isn't it? That would have been a good application for that. But I never remember to use it.

So I'm like, yesterday I was trying to work out how much Berlin XXX poppers Kylian Mbappe would afford. Yeah, I was lucky enough to be on that thread. Yeah, exactly. He could replace his own body water

with poppers, a specific brand of poppers from a specific website. They're a premium brand, that brand. According to the website, Berlin XXX are the very best, the strongest poppers one can get, really. Get them to sponsor. Yeah. Yeah.

And I thought after I'd worked that all out, which took me ages, I was like, why didn't I just get, that's an ideal ChatGPT application. But I forgot, didn't I? I bloody forgot. I've never once

opened ChatGPT. I don't even know where you go. Is it a website? I think, you type ChatGPT into Google and it comes up. Is it an app though?

Or is it an app? Nah, it's just a website. Yeah. It's just a website. Who makes it? I don't know, some enterprising...

Before we go... ...refunded individuals. We've got to talk about old Muskie. Muskie's latest. The Musketeer. Yeah, he's changed Twitter to X to make it... to make it the cornerstone of the town hall banking. You know, everything...

You know, mean everything to everyone all of the time in every part of their lives it's it's great because what elon musk seems to do and try to do this with paypal apparently is when something gets so successful it becomes its own verb like i'll pay pay you this i'll tweet that he just wants to change it and does he think is he so i mean i know the answer to this but is he so out of touch that he thinks people are going to go oh elon's changed the name so we're all going to change how we call it yeah well he's he bought x.com didn't he that was his he spent a million quid on that nothing to him was it and you know when when you've got a ham in your hand everything looks like a nail i

suppose but he's been trying to change he tried to change paypal to to X.com back in the day. But every market research company told him the same thing. It sounds like a porno site, mate. It does. The best take I read was that a load of venture capital people, a load of people who are good in this area, software people, the rest of it, will just be rubbing their hands together, waiting in the wings, because as soon as he gets bored of this shit

and runs it into the ground someone else can come along and be the saviour of Twitter yeah they'll be the fucking most popular person because they'll just do the basic shit

right stop Nazis get people not after not after pay and just return it to what it was before yeah and

and that's and that's all they need to do like it's a fucking shit show an absolute shit show and the thing about it is one thing it's super depressing is that that threads thing that everyone kind of jumped on board with and said okay right this might be an alternative because it's got meta behind it that's just died of death as well isn't it well it's just it was just everybody went on there and got very excited it's like okay right okay i've met her behind it and then they get on, and, you know, humans being humans,

they were just a bit like, I don't have much of a following on here, and I can't. Mine was I haven't got thread saved in my favorites on my bookmarks bar, so I'd never click on it. And also there's no non-mobile app. You can't get a desktop version. So that's me out completely. I don't tweet from my phone phone so I don't even read it

so there's so many just everyone's kind of getting it wrong but I guess they had to get it wrong quick I suppose matter didn't they but yeah it's all just a bit silly isn't it it'll all calm down will our business be fucked without Twitter though I don't know man

I don't think the click through rate even works does it we researched it I don't think Twitter really works for podcasts these days. So maybe our new home on YouTube, check it out, The Luke and Pete Show. Yeah, absolutely. Give it a look. And if you find any battery brands we want to hear from you,

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