The Luke and Pete Show - More food mama, give us more food mama
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Yeah, I'm ready when you are, big dog.
Nasty dog.
Dog, big dog.
Big dog.
Sweet beans.
Nasty dog.
What kind of...
Dog beans.
What brand of...
Dog beans.
Dog beans.
What brand of what?
Dog just made of beans.
Delicious.
A dog made of...
Do you know that banana made of beans? Yes. Frozen beans. What brand of what? Dog just made of beans. Delicious. Do you know that banana made of beans?
Yes.
That seems to be a big sort of meme of like
just hiding baked beans,
Heinz baked beans in places.
Does it have to be Heinz?
I don't even really tell from
JPEGs, heavily compressed JPEGs
on the internet, what kind of brand of beans it is.
I do go Heinz now, but I
used to go Branston.
Yeah, why did your heel turn on there? Well, go Heinz now but I used to go Branston yeah why did your heel
turn on
well Sainsbury's
don't seem to stop
Branston
she's a bit of a
disappointment
do you like
do you kind of go
to supermarkets
and sort of
welcome to the
Nook and Pete show
I'm Pete Donaldson
it's Monday the 2nd
I'm here
pinch punch
second of the month
blah blah blah
hope you had a good
Sunday
say my name as well
you're Luke Moher
thank you
carry on with your point
when you go into
a supermarket
you kind of like, you
remember what it was like last time. Because I
just go in and go, that's new, that's new.
Grab that, grab that, grab that, grab that. And
Sarah appreciates the fact that I do
not, she doesn't appreciate the fact that
I always forget basics, but
she appreciates the fact that I'll grab something that
she wasn't necessarily expecting.
Yeah. And it's usually something from the fruit aisle.
A tamarind or a starfruit.
I don't think... That tamarind you got me
the other day that you said you brought back from
St Lucia. Did you actually just buy that from the supermarket?
No, but I brought it back from
St Lucia, but it was
like, I think it came from Thailand.
So it got to Thailand, from
Thailand all the way to St Lucia
just to be brought back for you to have a munch on.
We are sponsored by some environmentally friendly sponsors. Not my fault, I didn way to St. Lucia, just to be brought back for you to have a munch on. We are sponsored by some environmentally friendly sponsors.
Not my fault, I didn't choose it.
I know.
What was the question?
Oh, yeah, so the supermarket.
Well, it's kind of a bone of contention in our house
because the wife I have access to,
I am absolutely sure she doesn't check the cupboards
or the fridge before she does the shopping list.
Okay.
And then I go and do,
I think I might have said this to you before,
but when I go and take her to ice skating
on a Thursday night,
I then do the weekly shop
while she's out ice skating.
Right, okay.
Because it's quite near.
Yeah.
And I'm in the car
and I've got to carry all the bags back.
Yeah.
And then we kind of supplement it
with bits during the week.
Anyway.
And you come to the ice rink
and you lay out a prawn ring
and she's a jump over it.
Exactly.
It's like an Iceland love.
And then we go
thank god
my mum has
gone to
Iceland
what band was that
I don't know actually
look at what I'm
telling the story
because you don't
listen to my stories
anyway
and so what I do
find though
when I go
and I get a list
and I find it
very difficult
so what I'd like to do
is be in the absolute
god level tier of shoppers Pete
and have a memory
of how the supermarket is laid out
and then do the shopping list in that
order rather than doing it from the
cupboards and the fridge from at home where I'm going back and forth
back and forward so I don't know where I am
but then I also realised fairly
recently that the smaller
Sainsbury's, we're talking about Sainsbury's here
I go to Sainsbury's 90% of the time
they change everything
around all the time
to mess with your mind
to go off my mind control trick
to make sure you stay
more time in the supermarket
so that's why they'll put
the bread right at the very back
you know that
so you have to walk
through the whole shop
to get your bread
but if they kind of
move stuff around
to keep it interesting for you
and keep you in the store more
that just makes me run quick around the shop.
Because I'm like, right, I need fabric softener.
I don't know where it is.
I can imagine you in the supermarket, you're a maniac.
Oh, it's great.
It's like I'll buy some seeds from Africa in the world food aisle.
What does that mean?
I'll just be like, they look good.
I'll figure out
how to cook them later
I don't know whether
they go with anything
it doesn't really matter
because I made
on Easter Friday
Easter Friday
Easter Friday
no it was Easter Sunday
I made
hot cross buns
breakfast bap
I saw that
yeah you sent a photo
hot cross buns
egg
hot sauce
two
hash browns
and that's that's your lot, really.
Yeah.
Needed meat.
It needed some kind of sausage in there.
I'm on board with that until I get to the thorny issue of the sultanas in the hot cross bun.
Yeah.
If there's no sultanas in it, if it's just a sweeter bun, I'd be fine with that, because I like a brioche.
Yeah.
You know, how did it go down?
Go down well?
To be honest, even I was a bit disappointed
with it.
I thought it was
going to taste
sensational but it's
yeah it wasn't it
wasn't really there.
Did you have the
idea organically.
No.
Well organically as
in I we needed I
needed something I
was I got two
slices of bread out
and I was like you
know what I want to
get fancy with this.
And what did the
partner you have
access to think about
it was she not
involved.
I don't always
cheese in there as well which helped. I don't know about it? Was she not involved? I don't think... Oh, there's cheese in there as well, which helped.
I don't think she...
I'm not sure about that.
I don't think she...
Cheese was...
She sort of decimated the content.
She didn't really much of the bun itself.
She pulled it apart.
She pulled it apart, yeah.
Yeah, and what about the dogs?
They had a little couple of bits of cheese.
That's about it, really.
A little sniff.
A little sniff around, yeah.
Because the photo
you sent was of the bap itself egg everywhere and you sent a photo of two dogs sat there looking at
you i love those guys so anyway the beans beans so beans everywhere quite controversially and
our listeners will have an opinion on this i'm sure um i don't really like buying the big cans
of beans right so i'll never eat the. Yeah, they just sit in the fridge.
Yeah.
And so I like the 200 gram tins.
What's your policy if you do have to put a tin in the fridge?
Yeah.
Do you kind of get half off the...
No.
Exactly, cling film.
People think that because it's metal,
you've got to put foil on it,
or you've got to leave half the can open and fold it down.
It's not helping anyone.
Choose a better cling film.
Cling film. The Sainsbury's cling film was the worst not helping anyone. Choose a better cling film. Cling film.
The Sainsbury's cling film was the worst cling film on the market.
No cling film is good cling film.
Sainsbury's is particularly bad.
I was very pleased when I was sat in the kitchen for about 10 minutes
resurrecting a roll of cling film that had gone round the thing a few times
in a weird way.
I was like, what is happening?
I felt like a loom master.
Yeah.
I will put cling film on the tin.
But anyway,
so I'll go for the three pack
of Sainsbury's,
sorry,
Heinz 200 grammars
in Sainsbury's,
but I would go Branson
if they stocked Branson,
but they won't.
So if you're listening,
Sainsbury's,
Streatham Common,
you've got a willing customer
for your Branson beans here.
So I can't be alone.
I can't be alone here.
Look,
can I shock you?
I've not eaten beans
in about six months. Why? Just, Sarah eats beans all the time. I don't be alone here. Look, can I shock you? I've not eaten beans in about six months.
Why?
Just, Sarah eats beans
all the time.
I don't eat any beans.
But think of the stuff
you do eat.
It's even more confusing
as to why you get rid
of beans.
It's just a bit like,
oh, beans.
I've moved past that.
I'm earning.
Beans seem to be
a real poor man's food
are they?
Po' boy.
I don't know.
I just think it's,
I just look at it
and go,
it's just,
we can do better,
Britain.
You reckon?
Yeah.
It's a sign of a
declining nation.
Yeah.
No,
I'm a fan.
I think people could
go too over the top
with them.
I think people could
have too many of them.
I don't like to see
beans on toast
where you've got
two slices of toast
that you can't actually
see because there's
so many beans.
That's too much.
How are you picking up the slices of toast? Well, it's knife and fork, isn many beans. That's too much. How are you picking up
the slices of toast?
Well, it's knife and fork, isn't it?
You don't eat beans on toast
without a knife and fork.
No, the corner.
What you need,
what I do,
if I ever touch a bean
on beans on toast,
you've got to have one corner
that's got no beans on it.
You pull that out
and then you've got
lovely tomatoey,
buttery bread
and you fold that up
and put that in your mouth.
Not bread, toast.
And then walk away from the beans.
That's it.
That's the only contribution the beans is making.
Well, when I make beans, I always,
I pull the can off, the lid off,
and I'll always have a little lick of the cold bean juice.
I love the cold bean juice.
And the wife I have access to is sickened by it.
Absolutely rank.
What's wrong with that?
You look like a right bean boy.
That's some of the stuff you've done.
I know, but still.
You've done frozen sausages and all sorts.
Would you do a frozen sausage now?
Not with this now. Not on my
constitution. So there is a limit now?
I could talk myself into it I reckon
but yeah. Would you go for a good quality sausage?
I don't know. Would they be worse?
Would they be worse? I mean most
I just sort of
think that the cheapest sausages have probably
been frozen for longer. I don't know.
The reason I ask is because I am a user of heck sausages you know those they're really low
calorie chicken sausage they're actually really nice and you get used to them and they're fine
but then what happens is when you have a nice sausage after that it blows your fucking mind
to bits so my mom and dad we were at a family thing a couple of weeks back and my mom and it
was like a barbecue thing because the weather was particularly nice and my mum said
I'll bring sausages
from Field the Butcher
it's a local butcher
near where they live
and she brought those along
and they cooked on the barbecue
because I was so used
to heck sausages
my god they blew my mind
they're so well made
like hand made
with all the best ingredients
I think if you took
one of those
and froze it
you could probably
get away with eating that
because of the
where the...
You shouldn't be eating
raw pork though.
It's one of the absolutely
clear problems.
Physical,
the physical kind of like
dimensions of a sausage
handmade is not
selling my brain.
Oh, that's what you mean.
I don't want to see
a brawny butcher
handling a sausage
into my mouth.
I don't need that.
Why is the butcher
brawny in your mind?
Because it sounds to me
hard.
Is it because he's so
broad that he sometimes
mistakes his fingers for
sausages?
It's a little sausage.
Yeah, because he's got
to protect himself from
the big slices.
There's a reason why
no one wants to see
other sausages made.
There's a reason that's
a phrase.
Yeah, exactly.
But I would say as
well,
you know,
we talked years ago now,
probably on this show,
people got in touch and in some parts of China
or Japan or whatever,
they eat raw chicken.
Right.
And it's fine.
Yeah.
It's probably not fine.
No.
But my beef with that
is that...
You don't have raw beef,
so...
Oh, I won't talk about beef
in America.
My issue with that
is that it's just not
very pleasant to eat,
is it?
No.
So when people... So here's the thing with you.
I know you have a steak tartare and you like a bit of that.
I presume you like a bit of beef carpaccio as well.
Yes, yeah.
I like a bit of that as well.
But my problem is if you've got chunky beef, no matter the quality,
it still doesn't taste as nice in terms of texture or flavour
if it's really, really rare.
Right, okay.
Do you agree with that?
It's not juicy, is it?
It's really kind of weirdly cold
and... Get it down, yeah.
I'll get it down me, but it's not as nice,
is it? It's just a device to get down egg,
Tabasco, capers, just anything
just a bit raw. No, but I'm talking about a thick steak.
Right. If you had a thick steak, so that thick,
would you want it raw in the middle?
No, no.
I'm medium rare when I have a steak.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's fine.
Okay, but some people will eat it blue,
won't they?
They will, yeah.
Some people will, quote,
rip its horns off and wipe its arse
and put it on the plate.
Walk it through a warm room
and then fucking put it on the plate.
I just don't think there's much in that,
flavour-wise.
Yeah.
I just think people are doing it to show off.
It's a virtue signal, isn't it?
Yes, yeah, no.
Yeah, but it's a match, I think, isn't it?
It's like like look how
fucking hardcore I am
but you're gonna get
stomach worms
Luke would you like
to hear the lyrics to
My Mum Has Gone To Iceland
yeah
because
I thought it was
a stupid song
fun song
right down
right up my straws
kind of song
can you explain to our
listeners who won't
know anything
what you're talking about
it's a band
called Bennett
who released
a bit of a one hit wonder massive one wonder in fact uh they did a song called
mum's gone to iceland uh iceland is a uh a freezer shop a frozen food shop in in england there's a
play on is it not a play on the country i think as well in this song was that not is it very much
not a single thing not not a single no no cleverness in this uh more food mama give us
more food mama i remember those lyrics.
Give us prawn ring, mama.
Give us anything, mama.
Thank God my mom has gone to Iceland.
They went...
More cash, dada.
Give her more cash, dada.
Be a bit flash, dada.
Give her more cash, more.
Thank God my mom's gone to Iceland.
And we don't make the door,
as the ad men well know,
got no concept of your bad cash flow.
And if there ain't that enough, just as life gets more tough,
they bring out a new game for my Nintendo.
My head's popping, TV window shopping,
and there ain't no stopping with that ice cream topping.
Thank God my mum's gone to Iceland.
We want mama what you can't afford mama,
and the TV pressures aimed at your little treasures.
Thank God my mum has gone to Iceland.
Bleed daddy dry, watch my mummy cry,
and I can't stop wanting no matter how I try.
So I guess the song is about advertising to children.
Social responsibility.
Yeah.
And they package it up,
and they make them do a novelty video,
and that's the game.
And all of a sudden,
1997's most socially conscious hit is forgotten to history.
I just don't understand why they were having a go at Iceland.
Have a go at Exxon Mobil.
Yeah.
But you've got to do it in the experiences you can understand, right? But I'm just saying the kick in Iceland, it's not an aspect.
Why have a go at Iceland?
Because they are the worst supermarket out there, aren't they?
No, they're not.
They are definitely the worst.
I've always got a good car park. What's that mean? I don't know. Yeah, what's wrong with Iceland? I don't know. They're the worst supermarket out there, aren't they? No, they're not. They are definitely the worst. I've always got a good car park.
What's that mean?
I don't know.
Yeah, what's wrong with Iceland?
I don't know.
They're the worst.
What do you mean?
If our listeners had to send in a list of who they thought the worst supermarket was
on the high street, Iceland would be bottom.
Disagree.
Who's worse?
Tesco.
Oh, get out.
What do you mean?
Tesco aren't great, but they're not worse than Iceland.
Tesco, Metro, it's the same thing.
You walk into Iceland...
There's never any surprises.
Never any surprises.
What do you want out of a supermarket?
It's not a ghost train, is it?
You're going, you're like, oh, give us another brand other than Claritin.
You want the...
Crying out loud.
You want Disney's haunted house in a supermarket.
I just want...
It's just the same every time.
What fruit have you got?
Blueberries.
Fucking brilliant.
True, actually.
Jesus.
But when you walk into Iceland.
Two different kinds of blueberries.
Posh blueberries.
Iceland's just the world's longest freezer chest.
And everything's a quid.
But Iceland, there's so many different things.
And they jump on bandwagons really quickly.
They go, right, do you want the product?
But with katsu curry on the top.
Beautiful.
I'll give them credit for that, actually.
You could see.
You could watch a reality show
where, I don't know,
Harry Redknapp in the jungles
talks about,
you know,
when he used to have iced buns
as a kid,
but he had them with blue icing
instead of white icing,
and then the next day,
Iceland will have them.
They're lithe.
They are, actually.
I'll give him credit for their flexibility.
On top of things.
And their price.
I'm not having a pop at them for their price,
but I do think it feels quite depressing going in one.
It is.
Well, it's depressing going in any supermarket, I think.
I can remember.
Shit, supermarkets are crap.
I can remember when COVID lockdown happened.
And bear this in mind, I already live in West Norwood.
Right, and you had a little stroll in Iceland.
Well, no.
I think for some reason I will tell you
what it was
the little supermarkets
some lockdown thing
the little supermarkets
couldn't open
but the big ones could
but there's no big one
in West Norwood
just got a Streatham
the only one that fit
the big supermarket
bracket was Iceland
right
and I remember
getting in a queue
outside
a metre apart
or whatever it was
two metres apart
about 50th in the queue, thinking,
I think this is probably the most depressing thing I've done
because at the end of this queue, I'm going to be in Iceland.
It's not even a good thing to queue for.
I'm being forced to queue.
It's like I don't even want to do.
So it's probably kind of slightly coloured my opinion of Iceland,
I would say.
Okay.
I mean, I just sort of think that if...
Who is it now?
Have we talked about this before when the...
Boris, yes.
Boris Yeltsin visited the United States in 1989
and he made an unscheduled stop off
at a supermarket in the US
somewhere. We were going to
the Johnson Space Centre. Was it definitely
Yeltsin because he wasn't present in Rush till 91?
Was it Gorbachev? No, no, Yeltsin
and a small entourage made an unscheduled stop
at a Randall's grocery store in Clear
Lake, a suburb of Houston. Yeah, he wasn't
in charge then.
Oh, he just went. But he marvelled
at the free cheese samples
and the fresh fish and stuff like that.
He was loving it.
He was like, wow, we don't have this in our country.
We all like that, don't we?
Listen, Pete, even if you do have it, it's still good.
Yeah, and basically he was,
obviously at this point he was still part of the Politburo,
he was still part of the...
I think he was a big...
He was a big swinger.
He was a mayor of Moscow and stuff like that.
Yeah, he was still a big swinger.
And he was shocked at how
awesome it was.
And this led to the breakup of the
USSR. Did you...
Would you sort of say that if he visited Iceland
he'd be like, yeah, let's keep it together.
Our way is the right way.
Our way is the way forward and we have to
preserve it at all costs.
Otherwise, before we know it, we're buying three
frozen packs of vol-au-vons for a quid.
And that is no life for anyone.
That's probably what he was thinking.
Yeltsin was the one
who always just looked
to get on the piss, didn't he?
Yeah.
There was a country he turned up at.
He was falling off planes, wasn't he?
I think there was a country
he turned up at
and the plane landed
and it was like fucking hell
and the red carpet was out
and all the rest of it.
And then some official had to come up and go
oh no
Mr Yeltsin's unwell
he's asleep
but he's just so pissed
he can get off the plane
and they were like
we can't let him get off
I like to think
he was going
I'm fucking coming
I'm getting off
let me off
let me off here
and he's in the toilet
that's not the way out
and they're wrestling him in
they've pulled all the little plastic shutters the way out. They're wrestling him in.
They've pulled all the little plastic shutters down the windows
and they're wrestling him in there
to stay there.
And the guy at the front of the door...
The plane's just wobbling a bit.
Yeah, in the caravan.
Yeah, because he apparently used to like,
to say the least,
he used to like the booze.
Yeah, don't mind it.
Well, there was a bloke,
some fucking guy from the Telegraph, I think.
And he did a video where he drank like Churchill for a day.
Oh, I saw that, yeah.
And it was like he just drank really weak whiskeys with soda
pretty much all day.
And then lunch.
So he started like half nine or something with the first weak scotch.
And then for lunch, he'd have pretty much a bottle of wine.
And then for, uh, tea time,
he'd start having like serious drinking,
like serious drinking at tea time, bottle of champagne, uh,
bottle of, uh, red.
Um, and then, and then he'd just keep drinking the week,
week Scotchers, uh, well, stronger Scotchers. And then he'd start getting drinking the weak scotches, well, stronger scotches,
and then he'd start getting serious around about 9pm.
I mean, good God.
How did the guy get on? He tried to replicate it.
He was basically remonstrating with himself,
saying that everything's fine, I don't feel particularly drunk.
He was already politically drunk at about 12 o'clock.
I remember going to the Churchill War Room,
which is a brilliant museum,
for all the obvious reasons.
Just a fascinating place.
And they talk a lot about Churchill in there.
And it basically becomes quite clear
that he is essentially permanently half drunk
and always wearing a romper suit.
Do you know that as soon as he used to get back
from whatever engagement,
he would put this bright blue romper suit on
he invented the onesie
and it's like
and it's like
and look
it's Churchill
so he's done
quite a controversial
figure these days
but he's done loads of
obviously
to say the least
loads of amazing stuff
right
if you didn't know
anything about that
yeah
and you got transported
back to like 1941
a man in a
vomit cupboard
and a guy appeared
down the corridor
in a bright blue robber suit,
bald, bald, cigar on the go, champagne,
wobbling all over the place.
You'd be thinking,
I don't feel that confident
that he's going to get us through this.
Yeah.
As the bombs are dropping.
Yeah.
Because in the book,
there's a great book by Eric Larson
called The Splendid and the Vile.
Yeah.
And it's about,
basically about the Blitz and about Churchill and the rest of it.
And Churchill apparently was very fond of getting up on the roof of 10 Downing Street
and watching the bombs drop.
And I think he said something like that.
It gave him an idea of context of how important this was.
And if he couldn't brave that, then he wasn't fit to lead and everything.
Basically just pissed.
Basically, I'm going up on the fucking roof.
On the roof, yeah.
Anyway,
he...
Come and hit me.
Even in Churchill War Room,
even in the Churchill War Room...
I'll cash the bomb.
Throw it back.
Which is...
At least take a fucking revolver.
Jesus.
What's that going to do?
I don't know.
What's that going to do?
Have a couple of pops,
couldn't you? A couple of pops at a fling. Oh, Jesus. What's that going to do? I don't know. What's that going to do? Have a couple of pops, couldn't you?
A couple of pops at a fling.
Oh, yeah.
You've thought of the only thing
that makes it worse.
What do you mean?
They see him pissed.
They're going to go,
at least he's having a nice time.
He's got a gun to go.
They're going to go,
he's unhinged.
Give him a gun.
But anyway,
even in the Churchill war rooms,
which is explicitly made
to show how great Churchill was.
So you've got to assume they're playing it down a bit.
He still comes across as a massive hitter.
And that challenge you're talking about there, exactly, it reminds me of another guy.
I think it was way back in the day, so it probably would have been a written piece, like a blogger or something,
who tried to eat all the calories that Tour de France cyclists eat during the Tour de France.
And it's like
7,000 calories a day, which doesn't
sound mad, but actually
when you start adding it up,
it's unbelievably tough.
Well, Charlie from the Ramblin' and Mark
from the Ramblin' were talking about
menus nowadays have to have
the calories of what you're eating. You get the option.
You can ask for that menu if you want oh can you right okay i mean it is charlie said he he had a meal
on the menu it was just pie and chips or whatever yeah 1600 calories
you're like fucking hell i wonder about that because i mean this guy had to talk to france
thing he he quit after one day and he still had like a kilogram of pasta left to eat
it was bad
anyway
it was something like that
anyway
on that calorie thing
on the menus
I'm really ambivalent about that
because I'm someone who
thinks quite a lot
about their calories
I struggle quite a lot
with my weight
it goes up and down
quite a lot
and it's on my mind
all the time
and
so on one hand
I think
okay
I can understand why people have kind of mooted that
as an idea because you think to a lot of people it's just oh well i can just get the information
it's good information right so it's my i can take the information i can do what i want with it
i think it really underestimates the psychological effect that a lot of people have with how many
calories they're consuming and how difficult it is if you struggle with it particularly when you're
going out for a meal and you kind of teach it, particularly when you're going out for a meal
and you kind of teach yourself to go,
okay, well, I'm out for a meal now with my wife or whatever.
I can enjoy myself.
If you face with that, it's actually quite awful.
Well, I agree.
I just think we should be told,
eating out a lot,
and there's a culture of this now.
You know, we're all foodies now, aren't we?
Take away as well.
So convenient, yeah.
And so like, it's, you know,
you're delivering systems and stuff.
Yeah,
it's just,
just know,
anything on that is bad.
You know what I mean?
If you count any calories,
just expect that every meal
is going to be north of 500.
Just expect that.
Every meal you're going to eat
in a restaurant,
every meal you're going to eat,
take away,
is going to be north of 500.
That's just the way it is.
But my point was just though, Pete, was that if you want that information, you can get
it.
I mean, it's all on people's web, most of the big chains, it'll be on their website.
McDonald's already do it.
McDonald's have been forced to put it on their boxes anyway.
So it's kind of, it's available to people.
Yeah.
The one that really surprised me was Wagamama's
have you seen how
calorific Wagamama's is
I don't really know
because I understand
if you're at a really nice restaurant
it's all butter and salt
and they just
clarify everything with butter
right
so I get that
Wagamama's
I don't really see
any reason why it should be
that calorific
but it is
people are always surprised
about how
calorific like
eastern food is
because it's like
there's a lot of sugar.
You know, the Western appropriation of it.
It's all sugar, isn't it, really?
Right.
It's all sugar and carbs.
I love it.
Yeah, it's a really tricky one.
Everything's fried as well, you know.
It's a really tricky one.
And I'm a calorie counter as well.
I'm trying to shift weight, but I'm doing stuff.
And it's like, I'm not really working.
It's tough, mate.
And I think it's very psychological as well.
What I don't think is really talked about enough
is the psychological aspect of it.
I find there's a lot of Instagram accounts
which are very helpful in terms of information
and about being body positive and stuff.
But no one really properly tackles
the psychological part of it,
which I think,
and I'm not talking about myself here,
but I can absolutely see
why someone who had a very difficult upbringing,
for example,
or coming from a family that's very poor and didn't eat very much, I can absolutely see why someone who had a very difficult upbringing, for example, or coming from a family that's very poor and didn't eat very much.
I can absolutely see if they become financially successful or more successful
in adult life.
I can see the psychological link there between them wanting to eat a lot
because they weren't able to when they,
I get all that kind of stuff.
No one really talks about that thing.
And it's a very psychological issue.
It's like,
it's almost a bit like,
do you know what it feels like to me,
Pete?
It feels like,
you know,
back in the day,
if someone was a heroin addict,
the general angle would be,
well, it's your own fault,
just don't be an addict.
But really understanding
the brain processes.
And no one really says that now
because they understand it.
It's kind of,
I'm not trying to make
an unhelpful comparison,
but if people have got
a problem psychologically
with food,
it's not as easy
as just saying to them,
well, just stop eating.
It's hard.
It's really hard
for a lot of people to do that. And I don't know if this helps it or not. But as just saying to them we'll just stop eating it's hard it's really hard for a lot of people
to do that
and I don't know
if this helps it or not
but anyway
anyway
Peter
anyway
let's have a break
from this
maybe go and get
a little snack or something
and when we come back
we've got a few
emails to do
and I really want to
read this email
that came in
very very recently
from our friend Johnny
so stick around for that
and we'll be back
after this
we're back after this.
We're back.
It's the Luke and Pete Show.
If you'd like to get in touch with the show,
it's really easy, baby.
If you've got access to an email or a Gmail or a Hotmail or a Yahoo.co.uk.
Hotmail?
Did you say Hotmail?
I said Hotmail.
Great, yeah.
In that, yeah.
Drop us a line at hello at LukeandPeteShow.com.
What's your favourite of the legacy email domains?
My email address was peterdonaldson-99 at yahoo.co.uk.
So feel free to drop me a line.
I'm not going to read it.
You're a Yahoo man.
Could you still get access to that email account?
I did, yeah.
I tried to look for it.
Because I had my whole life for like five years, I think.
Yeah.
They deleted them all, didn't they?
Shit.
I had a hotmail.
They moved it over to the servers and we lost all emails.
I had a hotmail.
I can't get into it.
I can't get into it.
Gone.
Horrors would be in there.
Surely you could lobby Microsoft.
I mean, Microsoft is still around.
Hotmail, they should be able to let you in.
Some things you just got to let lie.
Let them lie.
The problem with getting access to anything,
like an old gallery, an old hard drive, whatever,
you're kind of like,
you'd just be there for all afternoon, really,
kind of thinking about the past.
Well, the reason I ask is because our friend
Johnny who's email
I'm going to read out now
is emailing from a live
a live
live
is that an old Mac one
or is that
I can't remember
I thought it was part of
the Hotmail stable
probably yours wasn't it
yeah
I think the Hotmail
try and rebrand to live
at one point
live.com
I love it when companies
are a big try and rebrand
yeah well they can
sort of do it and go
it's fucking not
working.
No one's buying it.
Facebook will be back.
Yeah.
That's a weird one
because they almost
like explicitly said
oh yeah Facebook's
toxic now I'm just
going to call it
meta.
But you're the
people saying it.
Do you know what I
find weird about that?
What?
Talk to me about
Nick Clegg.
What do you mean?
He's sort of.
Yeah.
Proper dark side.
I mean,
yeah.
Just regularly wheeled out
having to say mental stuff.
Do you need the money that much?
Yeah.
Do you really think
you're doing a good thing?
It's a lot of money though,
isn't it?
A lot of money.
It is, but...
A lot of money
and there's a lot of plausible
deniability in that role,
isn't there?
It's just a town hall, mate.
No, I don't think there is
because he's the,
isn't he like the second in command?
He's in command of Europe or something like that.
He's got a big job.
What's the deniability there?
Buck stops for you, brother.
Anyway, Johnny Mitchell.
Hello to you, Johnny.
Johnny says,
I met Luke and the wife he has access to
at a wedding in Istanbul five years ago.
I remember it well.
He said,
we had an interesting conversation
about the role of luck in football and running.
I was probably just saying
that I'm not a bad footballer
or runner.
I'm just very unlucky.
Also,
I feel we bonded
over a satisfying feeling
that we are both punching
above our weight
with the wives we have access to.
Oh, stop you two.
When I met Luke,
I had no idea
what a great...
This is not the reason
I read this.
Did you write this?
I'm actually going to get rid of that.
Jesus Christ.
Now read it.
He said,
I had no idea what a top draw podcaster he was. I'm actually going to get rid of that. Jesus Christ. Now read it. He said, I introduced... I had no idea
what a top draw podcaster he was.
Yeah,
I want to get rid of that.
He said,
anyway,
he said,
I became a big fan
and I introduced
the Wi-Fi I have access to,
Naomi,
to the quality pods
you guys make.
Right.
Naomi,
at the time we became listeners,
was an elite level marathon runner.
As you can imagine,
she spends a lot of her time
in the gym
and she loves blasting out
the Luke and Pete show
on her phone
while training. Uh-oh. Cross training, strength and conditioning or stretching, you are the sound of her time in the gym and she loves blasting out the luke and pete show on her phone while training uh-oh cross training strength and conditioning or stretching you are
the sound of her gym work since listening to the luke and pete show naomi's got faster and faster
i said as sports fans you would like to hear from her and her audio key to success however
she holds your show in such high regard she has never considered her achievements worthy of your
attention when she was selected for england i told her she should email when she finished third on her england debut putting
england on the podium with kenya and ethiopia i told her to email now she's been selected for
team gb representing them later this year at the european championships in munich so i've decided
to message for her thanks for helping nami with her training so far here's to the pod and this
incredible variety of batteries powering her on to
more major championships
in the future
thanks very much
Johnny Mitchell
Johnny Mitchell
how good is that
it's amazing
I googled Naomi earlier
because I've met Johnny
and I've not met Naomi
Johnny full disclosure
Johnny is a cousin
of one of my best friends
I see okay right
but I've never met Naomi
because at the wedding
in question
he knows for the boys
yeah
at the wedding in question
she didn't attend the wedding
because she was training
run in that's how because she was training.
Right, run in.
That's how serious she was about it.
Run away bride.
I would... Is there something psychological at play here?
I would like her to take you running, Pete.
Okay.
That'd be great, wouldn't it?
No, awful.
How long do you reckon you could do?
Because I can't run.
Naomi, do the slowest pace you do
with one of your easiest training runs.
Yeah.
How long do you reckon you can keep up with that?
Well, I can't.
I mean, I literally, I have literally run before to like the next block of a road
and went, you don't need to do this.
And I've just stopped.
Isn't that awful?
Have you never been for a run?
No, no, never been.
Well, not in recent memory anyway.
Terrible.
Honestly, I don't know what I'd do.
I do not know what I would do. Absolutely awful, anyway. Terrible. Honestly, I don't know what I'd do. I do not know what I would do.
Absolutely awful.
Terrible.
I won't say 50.
Honestly, awful.
You keep saying that.
You were saying that when we were like 25 and it was funny.
Now it's not funny.
Now it's not funny.
Because you're 41 in a minute.
I've got sepsis in my elbow.
You're 41 now.
Oh, yeah.
By the way, before we go, can you talk to me about the sepsis?
Because you mentioned it before.
Oh.
You didn't say it was sepsis before, though.
Bashed my elbow at some point.
Might have done it on the darts night, you know.
And not like a big drunkard.
Was it worse than when Jim bashed his elbow
and had to go to hospital?
A bad bang.
Yeah.
He had a bad bang, didn't he?
Look at it.
Why does it look like that?
It's a really weird shape.
It's got a little knob.
It used to be, like, last week on Friday,
when we did a little picture online,
it was a big lump out.
It was bright red.
Now it's kind of calmed down a little bit,
but I had, like, three days of fever,
and I'm not sleeping very well.
It's like an old lady's ankle, but on an elbow.
You weren't sleeping well either.
Why is it affecting you that much?
Well, because it's trying to fight off the the sepsis i think because basically around what's
it called a bursitis bursitis right um it's a little bag of fluid around your elbow that
protects your elbow and your knees and any joint related bits. And you've got loads around your body. But this one, it was clearly like burst and got infected
and it's gone big.
And obviously, you know, getting your bloodstream,
it makes you feel like absolute shit
because like sepsis or whatever,
I think it's sepsis, it's gone around your body.
And so I just had a fever for a couple of years.
I thought it was COVID.
And then I went to the doctor.
But you've already got COVID twice.
I know.
It's the third COVID.
I thought it was the third COVID.
The third COVID coming. And I went in and I said, I've got fever and this has I know. It's the third COVID. I thought it was the third COVID. The third COVID coming.
And I went in and I said,
I've got fever and this is happening.
And the doctor went,
yep, bursitis.
Sepsis, bursitis, whatever.
Right.
Have some penicillin.
The orgy of antibiotics.
Refreshingly old school, that.
Yeah, really good stuff.
They're still dishing out penicillin to people.
And I read that apparently drinking
and most antibiotics,
you're fine with them.
It's an old wives' tale.
Oh, is it really?
Yeah.
And people who listen to The Rambler as well as this
will realise that a couple of weeks ago you were talking about
cutting around the doctor's waiting room diagnosing boys.
And how come you weren't able to diagnose yourself then?
Diagnose thyself?
Yeah, well, I will in the future.
If I see someone who's had a bad bang
got a big
elbow or knee
baker's knee
I think they used to call it
back in the day
housewife's knee as well
is it housewife's knee
as well yeah
they probably changed it
because that sounds quite sexy
and yeah
I'll be able to diagnose that
so I'm collecting
all of the problems
just so I can
diagnose them in other people
it's good this
because it assumes
there's only one thing
that can be wrong
with any part of your body
what about
if I gave you
10 normal people
in an A&E waiting room
just a cross section
of 10 people
I reckon I could have
a crack at two of them
I reckon I could
diagnose two of them
what would they be
there's always a burn in there
always a burn
that's easy
that's a burn
that's easy
that's the noise for burn
yeah
and
a cricked neck
I reckon I could
yeah
what was it
rye neck
rye neck
spray neck
I think
I think
you could
retrain as a doctor
yeah
because you know
that Harry Hill
used to be a doctor
yes
so you could go around
you never go backwards
do you I suppose
well it's quite interesting
how there seems to be
a bit of a crossover
because a lot of doctors
seem to be quite adept broadcasters
and entertainers and stuff.
There must be something in that.
Well, the best doctor, or maybe they're the worst doctors, I don't know.
You have to kind of take on information and analyse it
and then deliver it in a manageable way, I suppose.
The last doctor I saw I thought was honestly crap.
He was so dismissive and so, I thought was honestly crap.
He was so dismissive and so like, actually quite arrogant.
I'm fairly certain he completely misdiagnosed me.
Right.
And I know it's an unfashionable thing to say because they're under pressure and all the rest of it, comebacks.
But he was like bad.
Noticeably bad.
I saw two doctors about the same thing.
The first doctor was brilliant.
He referred me to this specialist who was completely crap.
So, listen, I'm just saying that if you want to have a look at the old knee, mate,
you're welcome to do so because it can't be any worse than that.
Yes.
Anyway, let's get out of here.
We'll be back on Thursday with more of this chat.
Special thanks to Johnny and Naomi.
Good luck, Naomi, in the upcoming Team GB World Championships.
We'll be rooting for you.
Keep us posted.
Thank you to everyone who emailed in.
Thursday, we'll do battery brands. We've got some you to everyone who emailed in Thursday we'll do
battery brands
we've got some good ones
lined up
we're still finding new ones
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