The Luke and Pete Show - More food mama, give us more food mama

Episode Date: May 2, 2022

It’s bank holiday Monday, baby. Sweet beans! In related news, Luke and Pete both have shocking admissions in relation to their beans consumption... We then debate the best UK supermarkets and d...iscover that we are the SOLE reason a marathon runner has made it to the World Championships.Want to get in touch with the show? Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yeah, I'm ready when you are, big dog. Nasty dog. Dog, big dog. Big dog. Sweet beans. Nasty dog. What kind of... Dog beans.
Starting point is 00:00:18 What brand of... Dog beans. Dog beans. What brand of what? Dog just made of beans. Delicious. A dog made of... Do you know that banana made of beans? Yes. Frozen beans. What brand of what? Dog just made of beans. Delicious. Do you know that banana made of beans?
Starting point is 00:00:26 Yes. That seems to be a big sort of meme of like just hiding baked beans, Heinz baked beans in places. Does it have to be Heinz? I don't even really tell from JPEGs, heavily compressed JPEGs on the internet, what kind of brand of beans it is.
Starting point is 00:00:41 I do go Heinz now, but I used to go Branston. Yeah, why did your heel turn on there? Well, go Heinz now but I used to go Branston yeah why did your heel turn on well Sainsbury's don't seem to stop Branston she's a bit of a
Starting point is 00:00:50 disappointment do you like do you kind of go to supermarkets and sort of welcome to the Nook and Pete show I'm Pete Donaldson
Starting point is 00:00:55 it's Monday the 2nd I'm here pinch punch second of the month blah blah blah hope you had a good Sunday say my name as well
Starting point is 00:01:00 you're Luke Moher thank you carry on with your point when you go into a supermarket you kind of like, you remember what it was like last time. Because I just go in and go, that's new, that's new.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Grab that, grab that, grab that, grab that. And Sarah appreciates the fact that I do not, she doesn't appreciate the fact that I always forget basics, but she appreciates the fact that I'll grab something that she wasn't necessarily expecting. Yeah. And it's usually something from the fruit aisle. A tamarind or a starfruit.
Starting point is 00:01:26 I don't think... That tamarind you got me the other day that you said you brought back from St Lucia. Did you actually just buy that from the supermarket? No, but I brought it back from St Lucia, but it was like, I think it came from Thailand. So it got to Thailand, from Thailand all the way to St Lucia
Starting point is 00:01:41 just to be brought back for you to have a munch on. We are sponsored by some environmentally friendly sponsors. Not my fault, I didn way to St. Lucia, just to be brought back for you to have a munch on. We are sponsored by some environmentally friendly sponsors. Not my fault, I didn't choose it. I know. What was the question? Oh, yeah, so the supermarket. Well, it's kind of a bone of contention in our house because the wife I have access to,
Starting point is 00:01:55 I am absolutely sure she doesn't check the cupboards or the fridge before she does the shopping list. Okay. And then I go and do, I think I might have said this to you before, but when I go and take her to ice skating on a Thursday night, I then do the weekly shop
Starting point is 00:02:09 while she's out ice skating. Right, okay. Because it's quite near. Yeah. And I'm in the car and I've got to carry all the bags back. Yeah. And then we kind of supplement it
Starting point is 00:02:17 with bits during the week. Anyway. And you come to the ice rink and you lay out a prawn ring and she's a jump over it. Exactly. It's like an Iceland love. And then we go
Starting point is 00:02:25 thank god my mum has gone to Iceland what band was that I don't know actually look at what I'm telling the story
Starting point is 00:02:34 because you don't listen to my stories anyway and so what I do find though when I go and I get a list and I find it
Starting point is 00:02:41 very difficult so what I'd like to do is be in the absolute god level tier of shoppers Pete and have a memory of how the supermarket is laid out and then do the shopping list in that order rather than doing it from the
Starting point is 00:02:53 cupboards and the fridge from at home where I'm going back and forth back and forward so I don't know where I am but then I also realised fairly recently that the smaller Sainsbury's, we're talking about Sainsbury's here I go to Sainsbury's 90% of the time they change everything around all the time
Starting point is 00:03:07 to mess with your mind to go off my mind control trick to make sure you stay more time in the supermarket so that's why they'll put the bread right at the very back you know that so you have to walk
Starting point is 00:03:18 through the whole shop to get your bread but if they kind of move stuff around to keep it interesting for you and keep you in the store more that just makes me run quick around the shop. Because I'm like, right, I need fabric softener.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I don't know where it is. I can imagine you in the supermarket, you're a maniac. Oh, it's great. It's like I'll buy some seeds from Africa in the world food aisle. What does that mean? I'll just be like, they look good. I'll figure out how to cook them later
Starting point is 00:03:46 I don't know whether they go with anything it doesn't really matter because I made on Easter Friday Easter Friday Easter Friday no it was Easter Sunday
Starting point is 00:03:53 I made hot cross buns breakfast bap I saw that yeah you sent a photo hot cross buns egg hot sauce
Starting point is 00:04:01 two hash browns and that's that's your lot, really. Yeah. Needed meat. It needed some kind of sausage in there. I'm on board with that until I get to the thorny issue of the sultanas in the hot cross bun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:15 If there's no sultanas in it, if it's just a sweeter bun, I'd be fine with that, because I like a brioche. Yeah. You know, how did it go down? Go down well? To be honest, even I was a bit disappointed with it. I thought it was going to taste
Starting point is 00:04:26 sensational but it's yeah it wasn't it wasn't really there. Did you have the idea organically. No. Well organically as in I we needed I
Starting point is 00:04:36 needed something I was I got two slices of bread out and I was like you know what I want to get fancy with this. And what did the partner you have
Starting point is 00:04:42 access to think about it was she not involved. I don't always cheese in there as well which helped. I don't know about it? Was she not involved? I don't think... Oh, there's cheese in there as well, which helped. I don't think she... I'm not sure about that. I don't think she...
Starting point is 00:04:48 Cheese was... She sort of decimated the content. She didn't really much of the bun itself. She pulled it apart. She pulled it apart, yeah. Yeah, and what about the dogs? They had a little couple of bits of cheese. That's about it, really.
Starting point is 00:05:02 A little sniff. A little sniff around, yeah. Because the photo you sent was of the bap itself egg everywhere and you sent a photo of two dogs sat there looking at you i love those guys so anyway the beans beans so beans everywhere quite controversially and our listeners will have an opinion on this i'm sure um i don't really like buying the big cans of beans right so i'll never eat the. Yeah, they just sit in the fridge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:25 And so I like the 200 gram tins. What's your policy if you do have to put a tin in the fridge? Yeah. Do you kind of get half off the... No. Exactly, cling film. People think that because it's metal, you've got to put foil on it,
Starting point is 00:05:40 or you've got to leave half the can open and fold it down. It's not helping anyone. Choose a better cling film. Cling film. The Sainsbury's cling film was the worst not helping anyone. Choose a better cling film. Cling film. The Sainsbury's cling film was the worst cling film on the market. No cling film is good cling film. Sainsbury's is particularly bad. I was very pleased when I was sat in the kitchen for about 10 minutes
Starting point is 00:05:54 resurrecting a roll of cling film that had gone round the thing a few times in a weird way. I was like, what is happening? I felt like a loom master. Yeah. I will put cling film on the tin. But anyway, so I'll go for the three pack
Starting point is 00:06:07 of Sainsbury's, sorry, Heinz 200 grammars in Sainsbury's, but I would go Branson if they stocked Branson, but they won't. So if you're listening,
Starting point is 00:06:15 Sainsbury's, Streatham Common, you've got a willing customer for your Branson beans here. So I can't be alone. I can't be alone here. Look, can I shock you?
Starting point is 00:06:23 I've not eaten beans in about six months. Why? Just, Sarah eats beans all the time. I don't be alone here. Look, can I shock you? I've not eaten beans in about six months. Why? Just, Sarah eats beans all the time. I don't eat any beans. But think of the stuff you do eat.
Starting point is 00:06:29 It's even more confusing as to why you get rid of beans. It's just a bit like, oh, beans. I've moved past that. I'm earning. Beans seem to be
Starting point is 00:06:39 a real poor man's food are they? Po' boy. I don't know. I just think it's, I just look at it and go, it's just,
Starting point is 00:06:44 we can do better, Britain. You reckon? Yeah. It's a sign of a declining nation. Yeah. No,
Starting point is 00:06:50 I'm a fan. I think people could go too over the top with them. I think people could have too many of them. I don't like to see beans on toast
Starting point is 00:06:58 where you've got two slices of toast that you can't actually see because there's so many beans. That's too much. How are you picking up the slices of toast? Well, it's knife and fork, isn many beans. That's too much. How are you picking up the slices of toast?
Starting point is 00:07:06 Well, it's knife and fork, isn't it? You don't eat beans on toast without a knife and fork. No, the corner. What you need, what I do, if I ever touch a bean on beans on toast,
Starting point is 00:07:15 you've got to have one corner that's got no beans on it. You pull that out and then you've got lovely tomatoey, buttery bread and you fold that up and put that in your mouth.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Not bread, toast. And then walk away from the beans. That's it. That's the only contribution the beans is making. Well, when I make beans, I always, I pull the can off, the lid off, and I'll always have a little lick of the cold bean juice. I love the cold bean juice.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And the wife I have access to is sickened by it. Absolutely rank. What's wrong with that? You look like a right bean boy. That's some of the stuff you've done. I know, but still. You've done frozen sausages and all sorts. Would you do a frozen sausage now?
Starting point is 00:07:46 Not with this now. Not on my constitution. So there is a limit now? I could talk myself into it I reckon but yeah. Would you go for a good quality sausage? I don't know. Would they be worse? Would they be worse? I mean most I just sort of think that the cheapest sausages have probably
Starting point is 00:08:01 been frozen for longer. I don't know. The reason I ask is because I am a user of heck sausages you know those they're really low calorie chicken sausage they're actually really nice and you get used to them and they're fine but then what happens is when you have a nice sausage after that it blows your fucking mind to bits so my mom and dad we were at a family thing a couple of weeks back and my mom and it was like a barbecue thing because the weather was particularly nice and my mum said I'll bring sausages from Field the Butcher
Starting point is 00:08:26 it's a local butcher near where they live and she brought those along and they cooked on the barbecue because I was so used to heck sausages my god they blew my mind they're so well made
Starting point is 00:08:37 like hand made with all the best ingredients I think if you took one of those and froze it you could probably get away with eating that because of the
Starting point is 00:08:44 where the... You shouldn't be eating raw pork though. It's one of the absolutely clear problems. Physical, the physical kind of like dimensions of a sausage
Starting point is 00:08:52 handmade is not selling my brain. Oh, that's what you mean. I don't want to see a brawny butcher handling a sausage into my mouth. I don't need that.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Why is the butcher brawny in your mind? Because it sounds to me hard. Is it because he's so broad that he sometimes mistakes his fingers for sausages?
Starting point is 00:09:11 It's a little sausage. Yeah, because he's got to protect himself from the big slices. There's a reason why no one wants to see other sausages made. There's a reason that's
Starting point is 00:09:22 a phrase. Yeah, exactly. But I would say as well, you know, we talked years ago now, probably on this show, people got in touch and in some parts of China
Starting point is 00:09:31 or Japan or whatever, they eat raw chicken. Right. And it's fine. Yeah. It's probably not fine. No. But my beef with that
Starting point is 00:09:37 is that... You don't have raw beef, so... Oh, I won't talk about beef in America. My issue with that is that it's just not very pleasant to eat,
Starting point is 00:09:44 is it? No. So when people... So here's the thing with you. I know you have a steak tartare and you like a bit of that. I presume you like a bit of beef carpaccio as well. Yes, yeah. I like a bit of that as well. But my problem is if you've got chunky beef, no matter the quality,
Starting point is 00:09:58 it still doesn't taste as nice in terms of texture or flavour if it's really, really rare. Right, okay. Do you agree with that? It's not juicy, is it? It's really kind of weirdly cold and... Get it down, yeah. I'll get it down me, but it's not as nice,
Starting point is 00:10:14 is it? It's just a device to get down egg, Tabasco, capers, just anything just a bit raw. No, but I'm talking about a thick steak. Right. If you had a thick steak, so that thick, would you want it raw in the middle? No, no. I'm medium rare when I have a steak. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yeah, it's fine. Okay, but some people will eat it blue, won't they? They will, yeah. Some people will, quote, rip its horns off and wipe its arse and put it on the plate. Walk it through a warm room
Starting point is 00:10:35 and then fucking put it on the plate. I just don't think there's much in that, flavour-wise. Yeah. I just think people are doing it to show off. It's a virtue signal, isn't it? Yes, yeah, no. Yeah, but it's a match, I think, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:10:44 It's like like look how fucking hardcore I am but you're gonna get stomach worms Luke would you like to hear the lyrics to My Mum Has Gone To Iceland yeah
Starting point is 00:10:52 because I thought it was a stupid song fun song right down right up my straws kind of song can you explain to our
Starting point is 00:11:00 listeners who won't know anything what you're talking about it's a band called Bennett who released a bit of a one hit wonder massive one wonder in fact uh they did a song called mum's gone to iceland uh iceland is a uh a freezer shop a frozen food shop in in england there's a
Starting point is 00:11:14 play on is it not a play on the country i think as well in this song was that not is it very much not a single thing not not a single no no cleverness in this uh more food mama give us more food mama i remember those lyrics. Give us prawn ring, mama. Give us anything, mama. Thank God my mom has gone to Iceland. They went... More cash, dada.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Give her more cash, dada. Be a bit flash, dada. Give her more cash, more. Thank God my mom's gone to Iceland. And we don't make the door, as the ad men well know, got no concept of your bad cash flow. And if there ain't that enough, just as life gets more tough,
Starting point is 00:11:52 they bring out a new game for my Nintendo. My head's popping, TV window shopping, and there ain't no stopping with that ice cream topping. Thank God my mum's gone to Iceland. We want mama what you can't afford mama, and the TV pressures aimed at your little treasures. Thank God my mum has gone to Iceland. Bleed daddy dry, watch my mummy cry,
Starting point is 00:12:10 and I can't stop wanting no matter how I try. So I guess the song is about advertising to children. Social responsibility. Yeah. And they package it up, and they make them do a novelty video, and that's the game. And all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:12:25 1997's most socially conscious hit is forgotten to history. I just don't understand why they were having a go at Iceland. Have a go at Exxon Mobil. Yeah. But you've got to do it in the experiences you can understand, right? But I'm just saying the kick in Iceland, it's not an aspect. Why have a go at Iceland? Because they are the worst supermarket out there, aren't they? No, they're not.
Starting point is 00:12:43 They are definitely the worst. I've always got a good car park. What's that mean? I don't know. Yeah, what's wrong with Iceland? I don't know. They're the worst supermarket out there, aren't they? No, they're not. They are definitely the worst. I've always got a good car park. What's that mean? I don't know. Yeah, what's wrong with Iceland? I don't know. They're the worst. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:12:49 If our listeners had to send in a list of who they thought the worst supermarket was on the high street, Iceland would be bottom. Disagree. Who's worse? Tesco. Oh, get out. What do you mean? Tesco aren't great, but they're not worse than Iceland.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Tesco, Metro, it's the same thing. You walk into Iceland... There's never any surprises. Never any surprises. What do you want out of a supermarket? It's not a ghost train, is it? You're going, you're like, oh, give us another brand other than Claritin. You want the...
Starting point is 00:13:15 Crying out loud. You want Disney's haunted house in a supermarket. I just want... It's just the same every time. What fruit have you got? Blueberries. Fucking brilliant. True, actually.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Jesus. But when you walk into Iceland. Two different kinds of blueberries. Posh blueberries. Iceland's just the world's longest freezer chest. And everything's a quid. But Iceland, there's so many different things. And they jump on bandwagons really quickly.
Starting point is 00:13:38 They go, right, do you want the product? But with katsu curry on the top. Beautiful. I'll give them credit for that, actually. You could see. You could watch a reality show where, I don't know, Harry Redknapp in the jungles
Starting point is 00:13:47 talks about, you know, when he used to have iced buns as a kid, but he had them with blue icing instead of white icing, and then the next day, Iceland will have them.
Starting point is 00:13:59 They're lithe. They are, actually. I'll give him credit for their flexibility. On top of things. And their price. I'm not having a pop at them for their price, but I do think it feels quite depressing going in one. It is.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Well, it's depressing going in any supermarket, I think. I can remember. Shit, supermarkets are crap. I can remember when COVID lockdown happened. And bear this in mind, I already live in West Norwood. Right, and you had a little stroll in Iceland. Well, no. I think for some reason I will tell you
Starting point is 00:14:25 what it was the little supermarkets some lockdown thing the little supermarkets couldn't open but the big ones could but there's no big one in West Norwood
Starting point is 00:14:33 just got a Streatham the only one that fit the big supermarket bracket was Iceland right and I remember getting in a queue outside
Starting point is 00:14:40 a metre apart or whatever it was two metres apart about 50th in the queue, thinking, I think this is probably the most depressing thing I've done because at the end of this queue, I'm going to be in Iceland. It's not even a good thing to queue for. I'm being forced to queue.
Starting point is 00:14:55 It's like I don't even want to do. So it's probably kind of slightly coloured my opinion of Iceland, I would say. Okay. I mean, I just sort of think that if... Who is it now? Have we talked about this before when the... Boris, yes.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Boris Yeltsin visited the United States in 1989 and he made an unscheduled stop off at a supermarket in the US somewhere. We were going to the Johnson Space Centre. Was it definitely Yeltsin because he wasn't present in Rush till 91? Was it Gorbachev? No, no, Yeltsin and a small entourage made an unscheduled stop
Starting point is 00:15:36 at a Randall's grocery store in Clear Lake, a suburb of Houston. Yeah, he wasn't in charge then. Oh, he just went. But he marvelled at the free cheese samples and the fresh fish and stuff like that. He was loving it. He was like, wow, we don't have this in our country.
Starting point is 00:15:51 We all like that, don't we? Listen, Pete, even if you do have it, it's still good. Yeah, and basically he was, obviously at this point he was still part of the Politburo, he was still part of the... I think he was a big... He was a big swinger. He was a mayor of Moscow and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Yeah, he was still a big swinger. And he was shocked at how awesome it was. And this led to the breakup of the USSR. Did you... Would you sort of say that if he visited Iceland he'd be like, yeah, let's keep it together. Our way is the right way.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Our way is the way forward and we have to preserve it at all costs. Otherwise, before we know it, we're buying three frozen packs of vol-au-vons for a quid. And that is no life for anyone. That's probably what he was thinking. Yeltsin was the one who always just looked
Starting point is 00:16:31 to get on the piss, didn't he? Yeah. There was a country he turned up at. He was falling off planes, wasn't he? I think there was a country he turned up at and the plane landed and it was like fucking hell
Starting point is 00:16:43 and the red carpet was out and all the rest of it. And then some official had to come up and go oh no Mr Yeltsin's unwell he's asleep but he's just so pissed he can get off the plane
Starting point is 00:16:52 and they were like we can't let him get off I like to think he was going I'm fucking coming I'm getting off let me off let me off here
Starting point is 00:17:00 and he's in the toilet that's not the way out and they're wrestling him in they've pulled all the little plastic shutters the way out. They're wrestling him in. They've pulled all the little plastic shutters down the windows and they're wrestling him in there to stay there. And the guy at the front of the door...
Starting point is 00:17:11 The plane's just wobbling a bit. Yeah, in the caravan. Yeah, because he apparently used to like, to say the least, he used to like the booze. Yeah, don't mind it. Well, there was a bloke, some fucking guy from the Telegraph, I think.
Starting point is 00:17:25 And he did a video where he drank like Churchill for a day. Oh, I saw that, yeah. And it was like he just drank really weak whiskeys with soda pretty much all day. And then lunch. So he started like half nine or something with the first weak scotch. And then for lunch, he'd have pretty much a bottle of wine. And then for, uh, tea time,
Starting point is 00:17:50 he'd start having like serious drinking, like serious drinking at tea time, bottle of champagne, uh, bottle of, uh, red. Um, and then, and then he'd just keep drinking the week, week Scotchers, uh, well, stronger Scotchers. And then he'd start getting drinking the weak scotches, well, stronger scotches, and then he'd start getting serious around about 9pm. I mean, good God. How did the guy get on? He tried to replicate it.
Starting point is 00:18:11 He was basically remonstrating with himself, saying that everything's fine, I don't feel particularly drunk. He was already politically drunk at about 12 o'clock. I remember going to the Churchill War Room, which is a brilliant museum, for all the obvious reasons. Just a fascinating place. And they talk a lot about Churchill in there.
Starting point is 00:18:34 And it basically becomes quite clear that he is essentially permanently half drunk and always wearing a romper suit. Do you know that as soon as he used to get back from whatever engagement, he would put this bright blue romper suit on he invented the onesie and it's like
Starting point is 00:18:48 and it's like and look it's Churchill so he's done quite a controversial figure these days but he's done loads of obviously
Starting point is 00:18:54 to say the least loads of amazing stuff right if you didn't know anything about that yeah and you got transported back to like 1941
Starting point is 00:19:02 a man in a vomit cupboard and a guy appeared down the corridor in a bright blue robber suit, bald, bald, cigar on the go, champagne, wobbling all over the place. You'd be thinking,
Starting point is 00:19:13 I don't feel that confident that he's going to get us through this. Yeah. As the bombs are dropping. Yeah. Because in the book, there's a great book by Eric Larson called The Splendid and the Vile.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Yeah. And it's about, basically about the Blitz and about Churchill and the rest of it. And Churchill apparently was very fond of getting up on the roof of 10 Downing Street and watching the bombs drop. And I think he said something like that. It gave him an idea of context of how important this was. And if he couldn't brave that, then he wasn't fit to lead and everything.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Basically just pissed. Basically, I'm going up on the fucking roof. On the roof, yeah. Anyway, he... Come and hit me. Even in Churchill War Room, even in the Churchill War Room...
Starting point is 00:19:54 I'll cash the bomb. Throw it back. Which is... At least take a fucking revolver. Jesus. What's that going to do? I don't know. What's that going to do?
Starting point is 00:20:04 Have a couple of pops, couldn't you? A couple of pops at a fling. Oh, Jesus. What's that going to do? I don't know. What's that going to do? Have a couple of pops, couldn't you? A couple of pops at a fling. Oh, yeah. You've thought of the only thing that makes it worse. What do you mean? They see him pissed.
Starting point is 00:20:13 They're going to go, at least he's having a nice time. He's got a gun to go. They're going to go, he's unhinged. Give him a gun. But anyway, even in the Churchill war rooms,
Starting point is 00:20:21 which is explicitly made to show how great Churchill was. So you've got to assume they're playing it down a bit. He still comes across as a massive hitter. And that challenge you're talking about there, exactly, it reminds me of another guy. I think it was way back in the day, so it probably would have been a written piece, like a blogger or something, who tried to eat all the calories that Tour de France cyclists eat during the Tour de France. And it's like
Starting point is 00:20:47 7,000 calories a day, which doesn't sound mad, but actually when you start adding it up, it's unbelievably tough. Well, Charlie from the Ramblin' and Mark from the Ramblin' were talking about menus nowadays have to have the calories of what you're eating. You get the option.
Starting point is 00:21:04 You can ask for that menu if you want oh can you right okay i mean it is charlie said he he had a meal on the menu it was just pie and chips or whatever yeah 1600 calories you're like fucking hell i wonder about that because i mean this guy had to talk to france thing he he quit after one day and he still had like a kilogram of pasta left to eat it was bad anyway it was something like that anyway
Starting point is 00:21:28 on that calorie thing on the menus I'm really ambivalent about that because I'm someone who thinks quite a lot about their calories I struggle quite a lot with my weight
Starting point is 00:21:37 it goes up and down quite a lot and it's on my mind all the time and so on one hand I think okay
Starting point is 00:21:43 I can understand why people have kind of mooted that as an idea because you think to a lot of people it's just oh well i can just get the information it's good information right so it's my i can take the information i can do what i want with it i think it really underestimates the psychological effect that a lot of people have with how many calories they're consuming and how difficult it is if you struggle with it particularly when you're going out for a meal and you kind of teach it, particularly when you're going out for a meal and you kind of teach yourself to go, okay, well, I'm out for a meal now with my wife or whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I can enjoy myself. If you face with that, it's actually quite awful. Well, I agree. I just think we should be told, eating out a lot, and there's a culture of this now. You know, we're all foodies now, aren't we? Take away as well.
Starting point is 00:22:22 So convenient, yeah. And so like, it's, you know, you're delivering systems and stuff. Yeah, it's just, just know, anything on that is bad. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:32 If you count any calories, just expect that every meal is going to be north of 500. Just expect that. Every meal you're going to eat in a restaurant, every meal you're going to eat, take away,
Starting point is 00:22:41 is going to be north of 500. That's just the way it is. But my point was just though, Pete, was that if you want that information, you can get it. I mean, it's all on people's web, most of the big chains, it'll be on their website. McDonald's already do it. McDonald's have been forced to put it on their boxes anyway. So it's kind of, it's available to people.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Yeah. The one that really surprised me was Wagamama's have you seen how calorific Wagamama's is I don't really know because I understand if you're at a really nice restaurant it's all butter and salt
Starting point is 00:23:12 and they just clarify everything with butter right so I get that Wagamama's I don't really see any reason why it should be that calorific
Starting point is 00:23:19 but it is people are always surprised about how calorific like eastern food is because it's like there's a lot of sugar. You know, the Western appropriation of it.
Starting point is 00:23:27 It's all sugar, isn't it, really? Right. It's all sugar and carbs. I love it. Yeah, it's a really tricky one. Everything's fried as well, you know. It's a really tricky one. And I'm a calorie counter as well.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I'm trying to shift weight, but I'm doing stuff. And it's like, I'm not really working. It's tough, mate. And I think it's very psychological as well. What I don't think is really talked about enough is the psychological aspect of it. I find there's a lot of Instagram accounts which are very helpful in terms of information
Starting point is 00:23:51 and about being body positive and stuff. But no one really properly tackles the psychological part of it, which I think, and I'm not talking about myself here, but I can absolutely see why someone who had a very difficult upbringing, for example,
Starting point is 00:24:05 or coming from a family that's very poor and didn't eat very much, I can absolutely see why someone who had a very difficult upbringing, for example, or coming from a family that's very poor and didn't eat very much. I can absolutely see if they become financially successful or more successful in adult life. I can see the psychological link there between them wanting to eat a lot because they weren't able to when they, I get all that kind of stuff. No one really talks about that thing. And it's a very psychological issue.
Starting point is 00:24:21 It's like, it's almost a bit like, do you know what it feels like to me, Pete? It feels like, you know, back in the day, if someone was a heroin addict,
Starting point is 00:24:26 the general angle would be, well, it's your own fault, just don't be an addict. But really understanding the brain processes. And no one really says that now because they understand it. It's kind of,
Starting point is 00:24:36 I'm not trying to make an unhelpful comparison, but if people have got a problem psychologically with food, it's not as easy as just saying to them, well, just stop eating.
Starting point is 00:24:43 It's hard. It's really hard for a lot of people to do that. And I don't know if this helps it or not. But as just saying to them we'll just stop eating it's hard it's really hard for a lot of people to do that and I don't know if this helps it or not but anyway anyway
Starting point is 00:24:48 Peter anyway let's have a break from this maybe go and get a little snack or something and when we come back we've got a few
Starting point is 00:24:57 emails to do and I really want to read this email that came in very very recently from our friend Johnny so stick around for that and we'll be back
Starting point is 00:25:04 after this we're back after this. We're back. It's the Luke and Pete Show. If you'd like to get in touch with the show, it's really easy, baby. If you've got access to an email or a Gmail or a Hotmail or a Yahoo.co.uk. Hotmail?
Starting point is 00:25:15 Did you say Hotmail? I said Hotmail. Great, yeah. In that, yeah. Drop us a line at hello at LukeandPeteShow.com. What's your favourite of the legacy email domains? My email address was peterdonaldson-99 at yahoo.co.uk. So feel free to drop me a line.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I'm not going to read it. You're a Yahoo man. Could you still get access to that email account? I did, yeah. I tried to look for it. Because I had my whole life for like five years, I think. Yeah. They deleted them all, didn't they?
Starting point is 00:25:38 Shit. I had a hotmail. They moved it over to the servers and we lost all emails. I had a hotmail. I can't get into it. I can't get into it. Gone. Horrors would be in there.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Surely you could lobby Microsoft. I mean, Microsoft is still around. Hotmail, they should be able to let you in. Some things you just got to let lie. Let them lie. The problem with getting access to anything, like an old gallery, an old hard drive, whatever, you're kind of like,
Starting point is 00:26:02 you'd just be there for all afternoon, really, kind of thinking about the past. Well, the reason I ask is because our friend Johnny who's email I'm going to read out now is emailing from a live a live live
Starting point is 00:26:10 is that an old Mac one or is that I can't remember I thought it was part of the Hotmail stable probably yours wasn't it yeah I think the Hotmail
Starting point is 00:26:17 try and rebrand to live at one point live.com I love it when companies are a big try and rebrand yeah well they can sort of do it and go it's fucking not
Starting point is 00:26:25 working. No one's buying it. Facebook will be back. Yeah. That's a weird one because they almost like explicitly said oh yeah Facebook's
Starting point is 00:26:33 toxic now I'm just going to call it meta. But you're the people saying it. Do you know what I find weird about that? What?
Starting point is 00:26:39 Talk to me about Nick Clegg. What do you mean? He's sort of. Yeah. Proper dark side. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Just regularly wheeled out having to say mental stuff. Do you need the money that much? Yeah. Do you really think you're doing a good thing? It's a lot of money though, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:26:54 A lot of money. It is, but... A lot of money and there's a lot of plausible deniability in that role, isn't there? It's just a town hall, mate. No, I don't think there is
Starting point is 00:27:02 because he's the, isn't he like the second in command? He's in command of Europe or something like that. He's got a big job. What's the deniability there? Buck stops for you, brother. Anyway, Johnny Mitchell. Hello to you, Johnny.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Johnny says, I met Luke and the wife he has access to at a wedding in Istanbul five years ago. I remember it well. He said, we had an interesting conversation about the role of luck in football and running. I was probably just saying
Starting point is 00:27:27 that I'm not a bad footballer or runner. I'm just very unlucky. Also, I feel we bonded over a satisfying feeling that we are both punching above our weight
Starting point is 00:27:34 with the wives we have access to. Oh, stop you two. When I met Luke, I had no idea what a great... This is not the reason I read this. Did you write this?
Starting point is 00:27:40 I'm actually going to get rid of that. Jesus Christ. Now read it. He said, I had no idea what a top draw podcaster he was. I'm actually going to get rid of that. Jesus Christ. Now read it. He said, I introduced... I had no idea what a top draw podcaster he was. Yeah, I want to get rid of that.
Starting point is 00:27:49 He said, anyway, he said, I became a big fan and I introduced the Wi-Fi I have access to, Naomi, to the quality pods
Starting point is 00:27:54 you guys make. Right. Naomi, at the time we became listeners, was an elite level marathon runner. As you can imagine, she spends a lot of her time in the gym
Starting point is 00:28:01 and she loves blasting out the Luke and Pete show on her phone while training. Uh-oh. Cross training, strength and conditioning or stretching, you are the sound of her time in the gym and she loves blasting out the luke and pete show on her phone while training uh-oh cross training strength and conditioning or stretching you are the sound of her gym work since listening to the luke and pete show naomi's got faster and faster i said as sports fans you would like to hear from her and her audio key to success however she holds your show in such high regard she has never considered her achievements worthy of your attention when she was selected for england i told her she should email when she finished third on her england debut putting
Starting point is 00:28:29 england on the podium with kenya and ethiopia i told her to email now she's been selected for team gb representing them later this year at the european championships in munich so i've decided to message for her thanks for helping nami with her training so far here's to the pod and this incredible variety of batteries powering her on to more major championships in the future thanks very much Johnny Mitchell
Starting point is 00:28:49 Johnny Mitchell how good is that it's amazing I googled Naomi earlier because I've met Johnny and I've not met Naomi Johnny full disclosure Johnny is a cousin
Starting point is 00:28:56 of one of my best friends I see okay right but I've never met Naomi because at the wedding in question he knows for the boys yeah at the wedding in question
Starting point is 00:29:03 she didn't attend the wedding because she was training run in that's how because she was training. Right, run in. That's how serious she was about it. Run away bride. I would... Is there something psychological at play here? I would like her to take you running, Pete.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Okay. That'd be great, wouldn't it? No, awful. How long do you reckon you could do? Because I can't run. Naomi, do the slowest pace you do with one of your easiest training runs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:24 How long do you reckon you can keep up with that? Well, I can't. I mean, I literally, I have literally run before to like the next block of a road and went, you don't need to do this. And I've just stopped. Isn't that awful? Have you never been for a run? No, no, never been.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Well, not in recent memory anyway. Terrible. Honestly, I don't know what I'd do. I do not know what I would do. Absolutely awful, anyway. Terrible. Honestly, I don't know what I'd do. I do not know what I would do. Absolutely awful. Terrible. I won't say 50. Honestly, awful.
Starting point is 00:29:51 You keep saying that. You were saying that when we were like 25 and it was funny. Now it's not funny. Now it's not funny. Because you're 41 in a minute. I've got sepsis in my elbow. You're 41 now. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:59 By the way, before we go, can you talk to me about the sepsis? Because you mentioned it before. Oh. You didn't say it was sepsis before, though. Bashed my elbow at some point. Might have done it on the darts night, you know. And not like a big drunkard. Was it worse than when Jim bashed his elbow
Starting point is 00:30:15 and had to go to hospital? A bad bang. Yeah. He had a bad bang, didn't he? Look at it. Why does it look like that? It's a really weird shape. It's got a little knob.
Starting point is 00:30:25 It used to be, like, last week on Friday, when we did a little picture online, it was a big lump out. It was bright red. Now it's kind of calmed down a little bit, but I had, like, three days of fever, and I'm not sleeping very well. It's like an old lady's ankle, but on an elbow.
Starting point is 00:30:41 You weren't sleeping well either. Why is it affecting you that much? Well, because it's trying to fight off the the sepsis i think because basically around what's it called a bursitis bursitis right um it's a little bag of fluid around your elbow that protects your elbow and your knees and any joint related bits. And you've got loads around your body. But this one, it was clearly like burst and got infected and it's gone big. And obviously, you know, getting your bloodstream, it makes you feel like absolute shit
Starting point is 00:31:12 because like sepsis or whatever, I think it's sepsis, it's gone around your body. And so I just had a fever for a couple of years. I thought it was COVID. And then I went to the doctor. But you've already got COVID twice. I know. It's the third COVID.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I thought it was the third COVID. The third COVID coming. And I went in and I said, I've got fever and this has I know. It's the third COVID. I thought it was the third COVID. The third COVID coming. And I went in and I said, I've got fever and this is happening. And the doctor went, yep, bursitis. Sepsis, bursitis, whatever. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Have some penicillin. The orgy of antibiotics. Refreshingly old school, that. Yeah, really good stuff. They're still dishing out penicillin to people. And I read that apparently drinking and most antibiotics, you're fine with them.
Starting point is 00:31:45 It's an old wives' tale. Oh, is it really? Yeah. And people who listen to The Rambler as well as this will realise that a couple of weeks ago you were talking about cutting around the doctor's waiting room diagnosing boys. And how come you weren't able to diagnose yourself then? Diagnose thyself?
Starting point is 00:32:01 Yeah, well, I will in the future. If I see someone who's had a bad bang got a big elbow or knee baker's knee I think they used to call it back in the day housewife's knee as well
Starting point is 00:32:11 is it housewife's knee as well yeah they probably changed it because that sounds quite sexy and yeah I'll be able to diagnose that so I'm collecting all of the problems
Starting point is 00:32:20 just so I can diagnose them in other people it's good this because it assumes there's only one thing that can be wrong with any part of your body what about
Starting point is 00:32:28 if I gave you 10 normal people in an A&E waiting room just a cross section of 10 people I reckon I could have a crack at two of them I reckon I could
Starting point is 00:32:36 diagnose two of them what would they be there's always a burn in there always a burn that's easy that's a burn that's easy that's the noise for burn
Starting point is 00:32:45 yeah and a cricked neck I reckon I could yeah what was it rye neck rye neck
Starting point is 00:32:50 spray neck I think I think you could retrain as a doctor yeah because you know that Harry Hill
Starting point is 00:32:56 used to be a doctor yes so you could go around you never go backwards do you I suppose well it's quite interesting how there seems to be a bit of a crossover
Starting point is 00:33:03 because a lot of doctors seem to be quite adept broadcasters and entertainers and stuff. There must be something in that. Well, the best doctor, or maybe they're the worst doctors, I don't know. You have to kind of take on information and analyse it and then deliver it in a manageable way, I suppose. The last doctor I saw I thought was honestly crap.
Starting point is 00:33:24 He was so dismissive and so, I thought was honestly crap. He was so dismissive and so like, actually quite arrogant. I'm fairly certain he completely misdiagnosed me. Right. And I know it's an unfashionable thing to say because they're under pressure and all the rest of it, comebacks. But he was like bad. Noticeably bad. I saw two doctors about the same thing.
Starting point is 00:33:41 The first doctor was brilliant. He referred me to this specialist who was completely crap. So, listen, I'm just saying that if you want to have a look at the old knee, mate, you're welcome to do so because it can't be any worse than that. Yes. Anyway, let's get out of here. We'll be back on Thursday with more of this chat. Special thanks to Johnny and Naomi.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Good luck, Naomi, in the upcoming Team GB World Championships. We'll be rooting for you. Keep us posted. Thank you to everyone who emailed in. Thursday, we'll do battery brands. We've got some you to everyone who emailed in Thursday we'll do battery brands we've got some good ones lined up
Starting point is 00:34:07 we're still finding new ones and you can get in touch with us hello at Luke and Pete show.com as Pete said or you can hit us up on social media at Luke and Pete show
Starting point is 00:34:15 we'd love to hear from you and if you like the show make sure you tell your friends and leave us a little five star review because we're just in there talking crap to each other
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