The Luke and Pete Show - Mouse nightclub

Episode Date: August 12, 2021

Pete is joined by backroom Stak legend Charlie 'he'll bite anyone's finger if the price is right' Morgan for a chat about life, love and battery brands.Luke's back next week, so get your questions in now - [e-mail] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

all right it's the luca peach show it is a thursday let's look at the calendar the 12th of august how the hell did that happen we've hardly had any summer i'm fuming absolutely fuming my tan levels are through the floor. Although I did look rather brown this morning because I came in on my one-handed, carrying a Costa Hazelot latte all over myself. I had to go back and change. Disgusting. Luke's still away.

And Charlie from Stack is here. Hello, mate. We never talk on microphone. No, this is very weird. we talk pretty much every day in the office and in the studio and stuff being this side of the mic is very strange i've heard you at one point on one show being interviewed and chatting about stack and your work at stack and i thought i need a little bit on the lucan peach show there's a reason that's never seen the light of day. I'll tell you what, though. I sent my dad a microphone, a pop shield,

and the kit that he needed to do a Lugabee Show webcam. And then quite late in the day, he said no. He said he didn't want to do it. Maybe all the kit arriving, it made it feel real. Yeah, I think it stressed him out a little bit. And he said, oh oh I don't want people knowing where I live and I was like dad if you type

Stuart Donaldson Hartlepool into Google you're literally there as my dad because I was interviewed by his solicitors firm that he worked for

he was just doing some admin lit just before he retired and yeah I'm literally down there as he doesn't want people to connect the dots between me and Stewie Donaldson. Has he listened to any of your

output? We're always talking about Stewie Donaldson we're always talking about Stewie Donaldson, he doesn't want to be involved so he's got a Marantz podcast app back number one. He's starting his own show with The Guardian, that's right. Yes he's branching out on his own

so yeah so when Luke isn't here or when I'm not here I think it's important to kind of go around the house a little bit get like the state of play the state of the nation

the state of the Stack Empire and find out what the bloody hell's going on and Charlie is involved and is incredibly important in pretty much every show that we put out here

at Stack he's the head of production and he just doesn't get enough props in my humble opinion involved and is incredibly important in pretty much every show that we put out here at stack he's the head of production and he just doesn't get enough props in my humble opinion so i've got charlie on the show charlie are you enjoying the little picture thus far very much yeah yeah cool listening to it on the train each day and now i'm the other side of it and it will i'll think oh man god it's not as easy as it's not as easy it sounds people talk about batteries well we've got some batteries coming up a little bit later on because it is a Thursday.

So tell us a little bit about what you do here at Stack. Obviously, it's not just, you know, plugging a microphone in and telling people which end to speak into.

Yeah, so it's a little bit of everything that's kind of not that, really. So initially, some of the focus is on our football stuff. So the Football Ramble is my kind of some of the focus is on our football stuff so the football ramble is my kind of like day-to-day charles indy castle fan even though he is how old you 26 26 i mean that is yeah that is that is dirge at least i had the 90s mate yeah oh but

they look so good on those old dvds uh yeah so that's kind of our main uh that's my main remit really uh all the football stuff we do and Melissa Reddy's show Between the Lines as well and then yeah the head of production stuff is a little bit more just kind of canvassing all the shows we do

and making sure they're you know going out on time to the best that we can get them as well as looking at kind of new shows new projects coming in through the door

just like generally keeping stuff going along really I've got the the other guys at Stack who we work with who do all the actual grunt work and all the hard stuff. We just kind of steer it and make sure they go, oh, yeah, all right, yeah, all right, cool. Yeah, in our world and this month, I mean, we've got,

or we've had, or we've got, like, we've had Natalie, Beth, Finn, Katie, Blondine. Andrea in Costa Ricaine Andrea in Costa Rica Andrea in Costa Rica is she back yet? yes quarantining or something she was on a secret

she was on a secret project to Costa Rica very very exciting so yeah we're taking a stack worldwide in the middle of a pandemic which is scary

but yeah so what do you like about working on a show such as the Football Ramble for example? Who is the best presenter? Who's the best one?

Who's the worst one? Who is the most punctual? Not today. I was very late today, but that was because of a trade. It's not Spellzy. It's never Spellzy. That's the thing.

He has many traits. Punctuality is occasionally, often not one. No, it's fun. It's good. I was always like, at school and uni, I'd kind of thought this was like doing sports related stuff. I was like, oh, it'd be fun to do, but no one does that. And then somehow through kind of persistence

and probably quite lucky timing, stumbled into it part-time with you guys. And it's just grown from there really, which has been great, really. So no matter how often people might be late or they'll turn in, you know, an odd bit for the show and we think... A difficult edit?

I'll probably get rid of that, to be fair, yeah. Oh, that sounds very much like it's loaded in. That revolver, that blunderbuss is loaded in my direction, Charlie. Unbelievable. Hey, you do know the media laws. You know the market laws. You know I'll have to cut that out. I'll dance right up to them and then dance away,

laughing, doing the middle fingers. So even if the sweats are often caused from that, it is a good laugh. Well, that's good to hear. Who's the best person you've kind of had to deal with on Zoom? Because whenever I walk in the room, you're always on Zoom with a footballer. Yeah it is a bit weird.

I think the Zoom does remove an element of the kind of mystique. Right. Because we spoke to Arsene Wenger was the big one. And he was on a toilet. It was disgusting.

Yeah Arsene was great. He was really shoddy in the bathroom. Yeah really weird. No it was great because he's obviously doing the rounds of press for when his book

came out or whatever. So we're online and Andy Rattle from the show is kind of set up ready to go. We're like, oh, this is exciting. And there's just an empty chair in shot and you can hear him off camera being like, oh, is this the last one of the day? So many.

He's basically saying, I can't be arsed for this. It was this. I don't know what a podcast is. I don't care for it. So yeah, the mystique is removed. I remember doing, and one of the things that kind of people ask me

when I used to do a lot of press junkets for films and stuff, I spoke to some pretty big junkies. Yeah, big names. But it was a nightmare because they don't want to be there. They're in a Soho hotel, an airless, windowless room

for two days and they just get flat batting away the same questions and the same responses that they've pre-organised and pre-written and it's tedious. What made me laugh about Christina Applegate who I think has just announced that she's suddenly got a mess today in fact

which is why it puts me on memory but she had her own clipboard. He had the press people and her handler who would sort of go, right, this is Pete Donaldson. He's going to talk about Anchorman 2 or whatever. And she'd go, right,

and she'd have her own clipboard. So she knew exactly who she was talking to, exactly how long it was going to go and whether I was the last one of the day. She insisted on having her own clipboard,

which I thought was very organized. In that situation, what do you want as the interviewer? Do you want to be like early on so you can catch them fresh or do you want to try when they're a bit bored

and they're maybe a little bit loosened up and wanting to spice it up? Yeah, when they're a bit tired and they're really jet-lagged and they're really done. I like the early ones because people are always exhausted and giddy and so you get like, even like De Batista who probably gets up at five o'clock in the morning and hits the gym for about three hours

or something like that. He's a bit giddy, but he was a bit giddy a couple of times that I interviewed him. You said he was a lovely man, right? My favourite, easily my favourite interview. Nice. And he really likes the fries you get from Leon.

Oh, wow. Those little kind of checkerboard fries, the crinkly ones, yeah. Respect. So there you go. Carbs though, like pre-gym, I suppose. Yeah, I mean, I guess when you get to that age. When I eat them, I look like shit.

And he looks great, yeah. I feel all greasy. So, yeah, we're just going to pile through a couple of news stories. I saw a man on the internet, Charlie. He straightened a pig's tail by stroking its back. Now, pig's tails, by their very nature are very curly they're very they're very wriggly and they're very curly and uh this guy managed to just by rubbing his his finger down the back it sounds pornographic but it really

isn't yeah just by sort of like running the finger down the back of the pig, the pig's tail just kind of unfurls like that. That is... I don't know if that's some kind of weird psychic Derren Brown. Or if in theory we could have a go this afternoon. I just think we need to go to Kentish Town Petting Zoo and get our fingers in a pig. We told you. What are you doing?

Get out. I just want to unfurl a little curly pig's tail. Yeah, I mean, where your shows that you kind of produce and exec produce and show run differ to a Lugan Pete show is that I'll just see something on the internet, which is such a visual feature. Oh, yeah. And then I'll come out on it and go,

I saw a man straightening a pig's tail by pulling their finger across the back of a pig. But the point is, I would very much like people to get in touch who have access to pigs, large, small. I don't really care. Give them a little, can you straighten a pig's tail by fingering its back end, so to speak? I was going to say that you'll get stuff from the dark depths

where you pull out most of the content ideas for Luke. Yeah. I mean, we can go back to your favourite sort of Zoom calls I mean we're talking about Arsene Wenger we've got like you were in Jamie Redknapp's house

at one point we were yes I still recall he was I bet he's got some decor oh yeah 100%

did you make him take your shoes off he didn't actually which I thought he might do because his house is very it's very modern

and it's very like kind of like leafy footballer suburb in like Surrey in England. I have a sort of big thing about I will never ask anyone to take their shoes off. I appreciate if people do.

And I will always offer and indeed take my shoes off without being asked. But I always get a bit offended when people ask. Yeah. I find it a bit. What do you have to qualify the filth that you're bringing in here if you have to ask it means you think

your shoes are a bit filthy already so you should have just gone for it and taken them off yeah exactly don't clarify it if you need to clarify it

something's wrong here but his was all like there's a lot of like marble and like embossed floor so one would assume it would be easier to clean than like a plush carpet

where about you because you live quite near Brixton don't you yes is that your first... Where are you from originally? Guildford, like Surrey direction. Right, okay.

So was that your first London home? Was that your first kind of proper London house? Yeah, yeah. I kind of dotted around before, basically to be able to get to the studio easier when I first started. And then, yeah, with a few lads from university and we moved down there

and we're in the, we're in the, there's four of us and we're in the sweet spot of, I feel a bit sad that a lot of, like a lot of London generally,

probably England as a whole, but a lot of South London is going through a lot of gentrification, which on one hand, like does genuinely make me sad, but then I have to think, yeah,

but I kind of am part of the problem. No, you're just living there. It's four to a house. It's hardly like, you know, a fancy little kind of like country pile, is it? I mean, you've done well there. But has moving out of the Big Smoke, has it changed your opinion of what it's actually like being in London

or was it just the natural next step and you kind of park one and pick up the next? I'm just very aware that this is something that everybody does and they will try and rationalise it. And whatever I say will be seen as me letting down my punk rock DIY ethos. Whatever you do, it's a letdown. Whatever we do on any of our shows, if we suddenly change something, people get upset and they sort of go,

this is against what this show used to stand for. This is against what this used to be. Pete in Soho when the other lads don't quite know where he is. And I think people needed me to be there living in my little grief hall. I think people needed a bit of that to make them feel better about themselves personally.

It could be worse because the bloke I'm listening to lives above a nightclub in a hellhole. Exactly. He's lived there for 20 years. What I like about it is that pretty much everyone I know when they walk past that house

which has not been re-inhabited. No, they couldn't get anyone to replace me. I don't know what I did in that home. Horrors. But I did,

look, I got my deposit back so I didn't, after six years and so on. Spiritual and emotional damage can't be accounted for. Can't be accounted for. But yeah,

they have to, yeah, they couldn't get someone else. But people keep taking pictures of themselves outside. Yeah, I tried to actually. You'll have seen the other week, but I couldn't remember which one it was. And it was in the,

just like London's opening up and everyone like thinks we're in Madrid and they're eating outside. Yes. So there was like a thousand people down the street.

And I was like, if I go down and pose outside every door, someone's going to come and like politely remove me. There are some very underwhelming night spots in Old Compton Street and Soho in general that have adopted this kind of like outside dining. Yeah, the cafe culture. Yeah.

I'd sort of see it with like the members club, like the Groucho and stuff. And it's like on Dean Street. And it's like, why, how can you sort of, you know, the whole thing is a members thing, but then anyone could sit on those tables outside, surely. You could just sort of sneak in and just sort of sit there, surely. Your kind of, your entry barrier is lowered distinctly. You think, oh yeah, it'd be nice for our patrons to sit outside

among people who are chancing their arm and haven't paid for it. And why isn't, is it St Moritz or La Floridita one of them's an indie nightclub one of them's a strip club I was going to say neither of those

meant anything to me is it La Floridita either way it's further up the road on Dean Street past the Crown and Two Chairman very London centric but they

always had very much an open door again an open door policy like big shutters open to the world with topless ladies walking around and stuff. I must admit,

I'm sure people have very strong opinions about my lifestyle, never been in, but you don't need to be in because you can just look in as you walk past of the lasses in bikinis and stuff and you're like, I mean,

I don't know how bold. Your unique selling point is the... A little secret place where you can look at lasses with their boobies out why would you open that up to the world and it's always been like that

and I've never understood yeah that is weird they've not adopted the cafe culture that's all I'm saying no no no I mean it is funny that seems to be a thing

of like you know officials or whatever will be like oh yeah we want this like cafe culture kind of stuff and then it's just women with their boobies nobody wants falling over chairs that they haven't paid for because they're not a member there it's not right it's not right uh right uh enough uh talking about

um uh the sex trade and uh let's uh hit an ad break we'll be back with some battery brands and stuff oh we're back. We're back. Charlie moves his water bottle away from my COVID emitting mouth. I'm all right, Charlie. Two weeks clean, mate. Don't worry about it.

We all had to suffer. Charlie, I'm so sorry, man. I made so many people work from home. Finn, Charlie, Blondine got away with it because she was behind

a plastic sheet. Not plastic sheet. That sounds bad. She had died. Not plastic sheet. That sounds bad. She had died. She had died. Plastic resin. What do you call it? A latex screen.

A resin screen. I don't know. She's still on Copter Street. But yeah, what did you do on your week at home? Did it make it more difficult? Did it make it more pleasurable? Am I more palatable over a Zoom call? No, I like seeing you.

I like experiencing the sprinkles of chaos in person. No way you are. It's nice to know where I am, isn't it? That is true. The narrow frame

of the Zoom screen makes you think Pete could literally be anywhere. He could, yeah. I saw a guy doing another very visual thing. He'd put a green screen

on his back, like a backpack sort of thing. Right. And he was doing something like a motorbike with a laptop on his lap lap and he's on a motorbike doing massive flips off uh off off this kind of like country uh trail uh and he was doing like jumps and stuff on on this motorbike um but he was on zoom at the same time on a 4g connection it looked really funny because he's

it just looks like he's in and his background's the office and he's just in the office he's got, it just looks like he's in, and his background's the office. And he's just in the office. He's going, like really grimacing and wobbling around. Oh, it's a lovely time. I really enjoyed it. So every Thursday, Charlie, you may or may not be aware. We talk about battery brands.

Oh yeah. And we got a message from Tony Potter. And yeah, he got in touch about battery brands, batteries that you, every week we sort of try and find new ones to go onto the Luke and Pete show battery list. Tony Potter has got in touch. Morning guys, image attached to my entry as a new player

in the battery game. Survival Frog, rechargeable batteries. Is this also the first USB rechargeable battery you've had on the show? We don't do a lot of rechargeable batteries, and I'm not sure they're allowed to be in the list, really. Wait, so it's a battery that you can then charge by USB? Yeah, they've been around for about 10, 15 years,

and when they first came on the scene, I was like, that is fucking cool. I was going to say, I've never seen that before in my life, and that is amazing. Normal air battery, pop the top off, pop one of the connectors off, and underneath you've got a little USB it does look like a that's probably where they got their

does anyone in your house vape thankfully not because it's I'd rather cigarette smoke yeah I would too proper take me back

but I think with vape it's not even the vape juice it's not even the vape smell it's whenever you fucking talk to

someone on the phone it's like crashing on and you can hear people doing it on like podcasts and stuff and it's not even the vape smell it's whenever you fucking talk to someone on the phone yeah and you can hear people doing it on like podcasts and stuff and it's gone i know you think we can't see you yeah and we can't because it is very odd you're the rss feed doesn't allow video but um yeah it's just disrespectful yeah take an hour off i can hear the plumes of like strawberry swirl or whatever the fuck it is you're smoking. I can hear it and I don't like it. It's the volume of plume that gets me, I think.

It's people who really, they turbo charge. It's like you didn't smoke like that when you smoked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why do you need that amount of fat rip in your lungs? Yeah. It's terrible. And it's more like i can understand why people would think and why luke always says he thinks that i should get into vaping um because it's colorful

it's uh bad for my health it's uh it's like there's all kinds of cartons but i associate kind of like the craft beer movement are you a bit of a kind of you and i you and i've got we we're on singing from the same hymn sheet in terms of this. The general craft beer scene. While I like beer, generally. And I like people who like beer. Exactly. Well, well. But some of them, I mean, perhaps, you know,

evident by some of the recent things in the news. Yeah. That's how you skirt around it. Suggest that maybe. All right, legal Charlie. Suggest that maybe it's not as wholesome and as all in conversation I think I bought some

legal Charlie once yeah stuck it in my vape and charged it no and uh but yeah the general movement I think

genuinely like the second week here I think uh you and I were discussing our mutual hatred of Brewdog right okay which is more just like how insufferable

some of the kind of rigmarole around it is. It's, it's, it's chippy oat milk packaging. It's, it's that kind of like we, we have spent too much time

on the packaging and not enough time on the booze itself because the booze tastes like fucking twigs. Yeah. A couple of subjects that have come up

over the past couple of weeks on emails. Sandwiches up the wall, I've written down. Somebody moved a house and behind a cupboard, someone in the home had left a completely plastic-wrapped sandwich, effectively. And it turned black. It rotted, but it maintained the plastic wrap so it didn't actually stink

so nobody really noticed. This horrible black sandwich. Have you ever sort of like found something when you've moved house and sort of went, I had no idea I even had that, to be quite frank. I always find when I move house,

it's when I get the most interested in all of my possessions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is odd. The one that does spring to mind is actually my girlfriend moved house semi-recently

and they heard this like scratching in the wall kind of scrabbling around and I quickly found out oh yeah there must be a mouse and I was a bit grim

but whatever and then you know oh it's probably just a one-off like it's cold it somehow got in it's fine managed to get it

and like kind of usher it out like three days later and then they found I think by chance, like a week later they were doing something with a kitchen or something. Mouse nightclub. Yeah.

Yeah, Mouse TV. No, there was like, pull back the skirting board, and I'm not joking, like 45 to 50 mouse traps just littered through. And obviously like, this has been a problem for fucking years. And like neither the landlord or the pastor, even the tenants leave a note like, sorry, l lads there is a severe mouse problem here right they actually own the house because they've been here so long through some squatting rule that they now own it so your landlord is actually a mouse or something like that but you like yeah just grim stuff like that yeah and the rental is

worse for that you just peel back you can almost like it's like a tree when you like look at the kind of cut of a tree and you can tell how old it is yes if you peel back different aspects of a rental house to find something you think oh that's two years old oh yeah oh that's 10 years old and there's different like eras of mousetraps 100 going back to the chemical ones of the 70s yeah oh it's supposed to be weird it's fine but so the sandwich was essentially structurally intact yeah but completely black i presume it's probably lost an inch or two, but I just, oh, man. That's amazing, to be fair. I've been...

Am I... Is it terrible? I've killed a lot of ants recently. There's an ant... I'd bought a house. If they inconvenience you, I'd say it's okay. Well, they don't inconvenience me.

I'm just worried that it... I mean, they're literally digging up... Like, they have decimated the cement in my patio, and I'm like like that's my house now that's my responsibility i've got to deal with this now i'd say that and there's a mixture of normal ants and then the flying ants as well they seem to be inhabited in the same little kind of corner of the of the patio and i'm like i've got to solve this problem lest my house just crumbles because yeah that's an infestation do your ants are they the ones that when if you leave them dead they'll get eaten and attract other ants because when i lived in florida we had a cockro an infestation. Do your ants, are they the ones that when, if you leave them dead,

they'll get eaten and attract other ants? Because when I lived in Florida, we had a cockroach infestation and the guy said, oh no, don't kill them because,

or if you kill them, then like dispose of them because if you kind of kill them and then they somehow kind of die, like I don't know. In the walls. Yeah.

Right. Then they attract other cockroaches which feed on them. So it's like some horrible snowball. Fractal kind of like you just get more and more

and more down the yeah grip you don't want that but they weren't destroying our patio I've got to take responsibility for this right we've got a

couple of emails from who have we got here Jack Hancock the old Jack Hancock hello there Luke and Pete when I was a little

I went on a family holiday at the sunny island of Menorca on this holiday the natural first thing to do was take a dip in the sea.

What happened next, though, traumatised me for many years. I ran out of the sea as I felt something on my leg. Only to see that there was this massive bloody octopus thing crawling up my leg. Safe to say, I was very wary of the sea for many years after that. I mean, if you encounter one of Cthulhu's offspring as you're sort of paddling around. I live by the sea now, and every now and again I'll sort of jump in the sea if it's too hot, but I am constantly

worried about jellyfish because I've never been stung by one. I don't know how much it hurts. Have you? No. I used to have that with wasps. Right, until you get, yeah. God, the terror's really there. I know I was stung by a bee and it was painful, but it's not the end of the world. So maybe that would be the same. I remember sort of being in Cape Verde and there was done by being it was painful but you're not it's not the end of the world so maybe that would be the same

I remember sort of being in Cape Verde and there was this stinger that kept stinging me it was like a flying waspy sort of thing a horny thing that kept stinging me

like it kept it would just go and I'd go ah you bastard and then it would fuck off and then it would come back and sting me a bit more and I was like

is this what a wasp stings me because the last time I was stung it was on the waltzes when I was a kid and I can't remember I remember a wasp sticks like the last time I was stung it was on the waltzes when I was a kid and I can't remember I remember the wasp was just fucking about

on my hand and then it just sort of went for me but yeah I've not been bothered by mother nature for such a long time I worry

like you I worry that it's going to be absolute agony well living in your 20 years or whatever it was in a hermetically

sealed London bubble with almost no wildlife. Going there, it'll be almost like a sensory overload. Oh, mate, I saw a fucking big badger for the first time in my life, just in the street, just wandering around. And you're not allowed to fuck with them. You're not allowed to just... And they are big bastards.

Big old claws. Foxes are the only things you get here. And you get to experience every other organism that's ever been made or live in the UK the second you get out of them I remember saying

in Piccadilly Circus there's a fox sort of running around on Piccadilly Circus that was cool that's a cool fox they were just so brazen as well

literally I've been walking home and the sun's just gone down and it's just like pottering around it's like a fucking cat or something you just look over

and it just goes alright and that's it the wildlife out where you are has just gone down it's just like pottering around it's like a fucking like cat or something you just look over and it just goes alright and that's it the wildlife out where you are must be nice now no jellyfish I don't know

I don't know what attracts jellyfish I don't know how you can sort of figure out that jellyfish are in the area if there's a man to be stung

by the first jellyfish on the east coast of England in history it would be you it would be me I think if you're on like a dodgy website it might flash up a little advert like jellyfish on the east coast of England in history it would be you it would be me I think if you're on like

a dodgy website it might flash up a little advert like jellyfish in your area yes hot jellyfish in your area ready to sting ready to put their tendrils

into you but like the man next door when we went over for a drink a few weeks ago he sort of went alright he moved in now I'll probably tell you

in your ass in your garden there was this uh they got an exterminator to move on the foxes uh that were just fucking the shit out of the um not fucking the shit out of those just just kicking shit out of the garden which is an acquired taste when it comes to that sound but um yeah apparently this guy just caught both of the uh foxes in this in this uh cage and they thought oh they're just going to get rid of them you know let them out But yeah, apparently this guy just caught both of the foxes in this cage and they thought, oh, they're just going to get rid of them,

you know, let them out. But they just shot them. Jesus. With a gun, Charlie. Why? Executed ISIS style in my garden. Two of the fuckers. That will happen again as well.

Before you know it will. People come in with what I assume is fox balls in their hands. I didn't know. Pete, it's happened again. I didn't know. Pete, it's happened again. I didn't know that you were allowed to just shoot foxes. I had no idea. There'll be some weird, like, you know, all those, no doubt I've talked about it on the show before,

but like those rules from like the 1400s. Right. And yours will be like if a man from Hardinpool is wearing a top hat in Essex in the east of England, you can shoot a fox if it's caught by yourself or something. Yeah, exactly. You'll probably caught by yourself. Yeah, exactly. You're probably all right. Yeah, probably all right.

Well, Charlie, I mean, we got through one email, and it was just basically a man who got an octopus on his leg. We've had better emails. Yeah. We've had way worse. Don't fear the sea. Exactly. The only things that could kill you in the sea, you have no say over.

That's what I would say. So if you see a great white shark and it wants to eat you, it's going to eat you. Right. Yeah, but you're in the sea though, aren't you? You've made that decision, I guess. It's like when they say shark-infested waters. It's their fucking house. You've made that decision to go there, haven't you?

But I always think if you're going in the sea and you accept the odds of the danger, if that thing arrives, you just think, well, it's not been my day, is it? Look, we always talk about ambergris on this show and I'm obsessed with finding some ambergris

on the beach and that's why I moved to the sea. There you go. I want to become a famous metal detectorist and I want to find some ambergris.

So, Charlie, thank you for joining us. I mean, I guess we kind of explained what you do here at Stack. I think it's nice to sort of touch base. Oh, yeah, mate.

Thanks for having me. Thanks for being a cracking guest. We'll be back on Monday. I do believe Luke Moore will be back for the show. If you want to get in touch with the show, in the meantime, it's very simple. Hello at LukeandPeteShow.com and you can check us out on Twitter and Instagram

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