The Luke and Pete Show - My name is Grandma

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

The lads open proceedings by chatting about a picture of Pete's dad's quite strange-looking foot, which has been provided to us in x-ray format via whatsapp. When is a bunion not a bunion? Quickly, di...scussion progresses to the story on everyone's lips - the advent of Kerry Katona and Katie Price's live tour. Why did Kerry say that about Katie's son Harvey?Elsewhere, there's hijackings, emails about government procurement and we may have found someone who's actually worse than Pete at small talk. And he's been accused of quite a serious crime...Email us: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com! You can also get in touch on X, Threads or Instagram if character-restricted messaging takes your fancy.Please fill out Stak's listener survey! It'll help us learn more about the content you love so we can bring you even more - you'll also be entered into a competition to win one of five PlayStation 5's! Click here: https://bit.ly/staksurvey2025 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Formula One World Championship is heading to the final few races and P1 with Matt and Tommy, the world's biggest F1 podcast, has you covered for every twist and turn this season. We're here with full coverage every race weekend, as well as midweek driver ratings, predictions and reactions to breaking news from across the F1 paddock. He's delivering week in, week out, he's right there. It's definitely looking in his favour, but let's relax. I've watched Formula One far too long to basically be like, yeah, Oscar's won. the championship. If they get into a mess over this and these final few races, it's completely
Starting point is 00:00:34 deserved. They've gone down a very dangerous route. Very dangerous. We also interview plenty of the F1 drivers themselves, and we make sure to only cover the most important topics. You know that's a big talking point with us? What tracks have good toilets and not good toilets? This sounds really bougie, but we do have to share the toilets with the public. Well, well on in qualifying, mate. Yeah, yeah. Literally. So whether you're an F1 diehard or just partial to a bit of drive to survive, P1 is the podcast for you. Search P1 with Matt and Tommy in your podcast app to listen now. It's the Luke and Pete Shaw with me, Pete Donaldson and Mr. Lukie Mo.
Starting point is 00:01:23 How are you doing? I'm doing all right, thank you. How are you? I'm good. It's quite rare. I do a show with a YouTuber called Chris Broad. You might be familiar with it. It's a Broad Japan and it comes out every Monday and Thursday. And he always starts the show, he introduced the show and then he says, how are you doing, Pete? And I've always, I'm always scrambling. I've never done anything that week and I'm always scrambling. I don't know what I've done. I don't know what I've done. I don't know what I'm thinking about. And I try and turn the question back onto him and what he's doing because he's in Japan and basically it's a show where I interview him about his experience in Japan because I'm not in Japan, et cetera. And, and, it's not quite nice to throw how are you doing Luke to you to be quite right I'm doing right I never stop talking
Starting point is 00:02:03 so you never stumble or fumble no I don't I noticed that I did fight and talk on BBC 5 live yes a couple of weekends ago and I noticed that
Starting point is 00:02:16 and now I noticed that the in the way that that show is set up I've always got loads of things to say and it's taking me a while to get used to the idea that actually it's an hour and there's like five people on it and you can't keep talking so you've got to be really concise
Starting point is 00:02:29 bring that to bring that to Stack Towers because then you'd be fucked wouldn't you wouldn't be a talk I'll talk about I'll talk about well we ended the last show talking about
Starting point is 00:02:41 I think his name is Jordan's ex-father-in-law who once booted a wall because he thought he was scoring the winning penalty I don't think he's ex-father and he's just a father-in-law that's no longer with us yes I sometimes find that
Starting point is 00:02:55 That's why I can't do fighting talking. I would be disrespectful by accident. Yeah. My dad just sent me a picture of his foot. Would you like to see? Would you like to see a picture of my dad's foot? Obviously. Obviously.
Starting point is 00:03:13 There you go. Whoa, man. There's like a claw. Look at that. Look at what the tour's up to. It's absolutely. It's like crossing over. It's a bunion.
Starting point is 00:03:22 It's like started to sort of start a new like Tor very weird It looks like a It looks like The fossil of like an archaeopteryx bird It looks like a little beak But it's just weird that like
Starting point is 00:03:37 The tour is just sort of deciding To comfort the tour next to it By just clambering on it And like he has to sort of presumably decide Whether it goes on the top of his tour Or the bottom of his tour Very weird Why has he sent you here?
Starting point is 00:03:55 I think it was, I mean, I always knew he had gammy feet, but I think just seeing that that aberration at the top of his foot was really good stuff. It looks just like a commonal garden bunyan to me. And what a way to start a show. But bunions are just flesh, aren't they? They're not born. Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:16 It just looks like the shape of one. The bone's sort of gone out and then come back in again and it's falling in on itself. I think a bunion's just like fleshy, flesh, flesh, isn't it? Is there any way, is there any better way to start the week? I mean, think of people that listen to this now, probably on their way into work. It's a Monday, a new week's upon us, and they're looking forward to what the week may bring, and then they think, bangedishists have spoiled their trousers with excitement.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Apparently a bunion is a bony bump at the base of the big toe, causing the big toe to drift towards the other toes. Yeah, it's the direct dictionary definition of it. I've just never seen such an extreme example. Like my dad's, my dad's foot looks like an arrowhead. Fascinating. It does. It's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:05:01 So what I wanted to bring to the table to start the show this week is that we had a lot of people respond to the Katie Price, Kerry Katona, spoken word tour. That I dipped out of. Yeah, because have you seen what happened at the show in Whitley Bay. So I think I've seen two stories about this.
Starting point is 00:05:30 One was, I think the Newcastle one, Jordan didn't turn up until like half nine or summer. Yeah, so. She was very late indeed. This was covered in the Newcastle Chronicle and it said that the show was supposed to start at 7.30. It didn't start until 8.
Starting point is 00:05:50 8 o'clock rolled around. Kerry Cotoner, God bless her, is on the stage on her own. And they've chucked Katie Price up on video link in the car. I mean, they must have had that prepared. Good God. They must have had that prepared. Wherever she is, she can do it on the phone, presumably. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:09 It's absolutely insane to do that. So excited. You just sort of lost her breath there. She did eventually turn up and they did end the show at around half past 10 with a rendition of the atomic kit and classic hole again. Now, had she arrived with her? with Harvey because the I think that was the scene that I saw
Starting point is 00:06:25 on one of the tour shows and bearing of mind they've got a lot of shows to get through one of the shows ended with her singing Atomic Kitten but it was quite upsetting to see Kerry Ketona shout, ball, bark
Starting point is 00:06:40 at in the direction of Harvey you still turn me on you can make me whole again oh that's not good that's not good I mean he's of age now I suppose but it just seemed it left a taste in my mouth to be quite frank yeah i think she's probably got carried away there and thought that would be a sweet cute thing to do hadn't think at thought of the lyrics
Starting point is 00:06:59 no apparently this yeah this has been reported in the uh in the sun newspaper and was looking now carrie cotona branded quote wrong as she sings song about being turned on by katie price's son i mean it's 23 now harvey god bless it 23 yeah yeah oh there you go oh it's 33 dates this tour it's going to wear thin pretty quick if this is the gruel they're serving up already. It sounds like they're panicking already. It's, you know, it's the
Starting point is 00:07:26 equivalent of the ramble doing a bit where I dance, which we've done repeatedly in all of our shots. Yeah, but that's the best bit. That's the best bit. That's the best bit. That's the meat. Yeah, so apparently Katie Price said that it's taken her nine hours to get to Whitley Bay.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I don't know where she was coming from, fucking Bangkok or something. Yeah. And she was running on stage for half an hour. Yeah. Yeah, job done. I mean, she'd better do a signing, surely. She'd better get out there and do some work.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Here's the most damning quote from the whole thing from a very unhappy punter, according to the Sun newspaper. They didn't even say sorry. Love that. Such a British thing, isn't it? Yeah, just say sorry. Say sorry and we'll be much more likely to forgive it. But I'm looking forward to going now.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I mean, I haven't got anyone to go with. I'm going to go on my own, possibly the biggest midlife crisis cry for her. help of my life so far um but um i'm excited for it yeah um well god does you you know you start you start you run with one shore and by the end it's you know it's grown into something different i think that's really nice it's a nice thing i don't think that's going to happen to them is it it evolves i don't think i don't think that's going to happen to them mate no i think i think they're going to slowly but surely start scraping the ground where the barrel used to be that's what i think's
Starting point is 00:08:49 that happen. Like we all are really in this life. Make more barrel. Make floor barrel. That's just extending the barrel. It's not scrape the barrel. It's making more barrel. Not ideal.
Starting point is 00:09:00 But in other news, by the way, speaking of, you know, amazingly dangerous things making landfall, apparently it's a hurricane on the way. To what? To our aisles, the United of Kingdoms?
Starting point is 00:09:12 To our fair, septed aisle. And we've had winds. Like you wouldn't believe, like my neighbours, I've got to get in their getting their roof converted, the loft converted, and they're scaffolding. I'm surprised it's still up.
Starting point is 00:09:25 It's been absolutely whipping, whipping around here. Maybe we're right in the middle of it now then, but the BBC are reporting that there's something that's formed over the Mid-Atlantic, and it's heading this way. Oh, my God. And it's going to get here on Monday, which is the day we're recorded,
Starting point is 00:09:42 a day was just shows that they come out. I mean, we were recording a couple days before, but like, it's, yeah, apparently it's on it's way, big boy. I'm worried that we would I'm worried that what if the ships that are in the you know the the the estuary next to my house
Starting point is 00:09:58 what if they just find that way into my house what if they get blown off course and there's no foghorn to let them know where and they just end up in my house there was a I don't know what I said out on the show there was this famous I've said it on the I don't think I've said up the Newcombe show but I've sent it on one podcast
Starting point is 00:10:14 there was a ship in 2015 that went down in a hurricane and I think it was in like the kind of sort of Bermuda way where a lot of this sort of thing seemed out in the Caribbean and they steered they made a bad decision
Starting point is 00:10:29 and they found their self in it was a merchant ship found its way into the eye of a hurricane basically if indeed they have eyes and basically it went it went down and just broke apart and went down
Starting point is 00:10:43 and it just fucked and the last recording of one of the sectors of the ship ended with someone going R-R-R-Roe like Scooby-Doo. What? Why? It's basically this transcript
Starting point is 00:10:59 that they read out in the investigation afterwards and it says like one unknown person goes R-Rot-Roe like Scooby-Doo and then someone goes, what was that? And then end transmission. What a twist. R-Rut-Roe.
Starting point is 00:11:13 It goes down. You go down on a ship No souls 300 souls on board No one survives And the legacy for your family Is an accidental Scooby-Doo impression I think so
Starting point is 00:11:28 Yeah I think that's true I kind of hope that's true Because I mean there's You know Everyone thinks they've got As discussed before my Potential drowning in Costa Rica My last words would have been
Starting point is 00:11:37 Hey look at this It's really cool Look at what I can do It's really cool That's not so bad That's not I But that's the effect of rot row Isn't it?
Starting point is 00:11:45 That makes me but that's a very Pete Donaldson thing to say like I would take small comfort from knowing that those were your last words I did that's definitely a bit of Pete that because I would always automatically assume that your last words would be
Starting point is 00:12:00 some kind of tantrum before you walked off in front of a car or something right I wasn't wanking I wasn't wanking actually that's so good by the way you mentioned you mentioned it going down in Bermuda
Starting point is 00:12:14 I think the Bermudeau the Bermude Bermuda Triangle was a big deal for kids when we were young. QuickSand, Bermuda Triangle. We used to hear about Bermuda Triangle all the time. Yeah. Because no one would investigate that shit. And if they did, you'd never hear about it because there was no internet.
Starting point is 00:12:30 You just think, oh, yeah, fucking out. Like, it's a, it's a thing. It's like an actual thing. It just seems like, why has anyone going down there then? Why is anyone doing anything down there? Do you reckon they still, do you reckon people avoid it still? I reckon, I reckon people are a bit like, whoa, we're going into the Bermuda. Bermuda Triangle, uh-oh, Spaghetti.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Have we not found a way around it? It just seems that... Probably, yeah. It's just a lot of storms around there, isn't it? That's the problem. And back then, you couldn't really sort of navigate around them because you didn't know they're coming. Yeah, I think there was apparently a study down in 2013
Starting point is 00:13:02 for the 10 most dangerous waters for shipping and the Bermuda Triangle wasn't in there. And I don't think there are more... The bearing? Is the bearing up there? I don't know which ones were. I mean, I can love a look if you want. I'll just Google it. but I don't think there's also
Starting point is 00:13:17 I don't think there's any more per capita like aircraft incidents either than you'd expect The world's most dangerous waters for shipping The South China Sea The Gulf of Guinea I guess the Gulf of Guinea is probably for piracy The Strait of Malacca
Starting point is 00:13:33 Cape Horn and the Drake Passage the Bay of Biscay and some parts of the North Sea due to storms I once sailed across the Cookstrait between the north and south island and that was fucking choppy.
Starting point is 00:13:51 I was well surprised the ferry even went across. That might be in an absolute wet blanket maybe. It's amazing what you kind of can like what, you know, people dealing with like massive fucking swells and some ships obviously, their very size can't, don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:14:10 They can't give a shit. They're like, we're too big. Just do with it. It's absolutely fine. I was one of the excellent mentor pilot plane crash videos Where That's what you do all the time You just watch plane crash videos on YouTube I don't watch, I listen to him
Starting point is 00:14:25 He's got a very calming voice And he talks about I think it was a good I think it was an African carrier Who basically just didn't bring enough fuel He didn't bring enough fuel And as he came through the clouds Apparently when you're dishing water
Starting point is 00:14:38 You've got to line the plane up I tried to let's shoot one for Pilot Neil apparently you've got to line it up with the swell so you don't smash into a wave I mean it kind of makes sense I suppose and break open the ship and stuff but I love a bit of mentor pilots very relaxing
Starting point is 00:14:56 there's a load of there's a load of airlines banned from EU airspace aren't there for exactly that stuff for like not being diligent enough and things like that so if you look at say the countries where the airlines are banned from
Starting point is 00:15:12 flying into EU airspace. You've got some stuff like Russia because of the invasion of Ukraine and say Liberia doesn't have an airline, that kind of stuff. But like the amount of like countries, to be fair, most of them are African. But apparently all airlines from Armenia are banned from EU airspace, which sounds quite restrictive given the geographical location of Armenia. Just sort out your safety record. But is it not just like these kind of like fleets that have like got one seven for seven?
Starting point is 00:15:42 and they're just like, it's all we got. This is our airline. We've got one seven four seven and it's been in service since 1973, do you know, and that sort of thing? You're like, fucking hell. I think that applies to Nepal, because apparently Nepal's only got one airline and there's absolutely no motivation for them to be any good.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Right, okay, yeah. Yeah, and they seem like the most difficult places to sort of, you know, deal with. All of the Nepal airports are really difficult to fly into it. Probably be brilliant. Pilots would probably be amazing, wouldn't they? Yeah, well, yeah, you think so. I mean, but it'd be very sort of, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:17 oldie-timey kind of 1940s World War II sort of piloting, wouldn't it? It wouldn't necessarily be IELS approaches and stuff. Like, let's do this on the stick, yeah. And apparently the Venezuelan national carrier, Avial Airlines is banned because of repeated hijacking incidents, which is a lovely throwback. Lovely throwback. Yeah, you don't really see, you don't sort of see hijackings anymore.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Oh, dear, because people would, I guess, we spoke about this before with September 11th and stuff. You imagine that, like, nowadays, that sort of hijacking wouldn't work anymore because people would know that that plane might be smashed into the ground, or somewhere else. So people would sort of, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Did you see how, I might have mentioned this to you before a long, long time ago, but have you seen the sheer amount of hijackings in the United States in the 1970s? Oh, they're all at it. It was brilliant. It was like a proper, like, it was real, the regar stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Yeah People jumping out of DC whatever's With a suitcase full of cash Love it A bunch of like Just bunch of black panthers Sam right take me to Cuba
Starting point is 00:17:21 I want to go Castro Like over and over again People just wanted to go to Cuba Like Yeah It's crazy The DB Cooper one's really interesting Because that's obviously
Starting point is 00:17:29 Yeah that's And that guy Do whoever that guy was Yeah I know it's a hugely Traumatic Don Draper It was Don Draper Well yeah
Starting point is 00:17:37 Could be He didn't kill anyone did he just he did from like and yet like you say hijacks were happening all the time back then because there was just no security no yeah he also i know no one died but the thing is it's obviously going to be really traumatic for the people on the flight i think i think by the time he jumped out wasn't there i think the only block on there was the pilot wasn't he didn't they stop get some money and then they flew up and then and then uh he jumped out he told he told the um cabin crew that he had a bomb yeah oh yeah i mean that that bit's quite stressful but
Starting point is 00:18:09 As I said, ten a penny back then. Ten a penny back then. There were procedures. Yeah, he jumped out of the back of the plane with a parachute, didn't it? And he's never been found since. That's amazing. Amazing story. I mean, one thing I would say, I mean, I'm obviously generally not in support of hijacking planes. But you've got to have a pair of balls on you.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Yeah. Yeah, I've got to have a pair of knives on you, I suppose. Oh, you've got to be, you've got to study people's, you've got to be able to study. manipulate people, I suppose. It takes confidence, you're not doing that. There's no way you've got the comments
Starting point is 00:18:43 do it. No. I'd be terrible. When the high jacking is happening, I'd have to indulge in a bit of small talk, which I am absolutely terrible at. I think your hijacking would be saying to call the cabin crew member over.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Just say to them, I've got a bomb and I'd like to hijack this plane. Is that all right? No worries if not. That would be you. No worries. Only if you've got time. Only if you've got time.
Starting point is 00:19:07 What do you mean you can't take, You can't make Tokyo on this fuel. Unbelievable. What's your tactic going to be? I am going to switch all of these back of the seat entertainment devices to watch all of Curby enthusiasm. Curvy. If you do not turn it around.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Also, what about, I just, guys, don't panic. I don't mean to hijack. I just really, really want to jump out of a plane with a parachute. So can you just lower it a bit? so I can do it, open the back door, deep pressure off the cabin, open the back door, and I'll be away. I'll be going away, yeah. And I'll give you my word that you won't be responsible for whatever happens to me. Yeah, exactly. Give us, give us what, let me just climb to him on one of those little part halls. Because I guess the front of the plane, you can't you? The pilots can open
Starting point is 00:19:56 the windows. So I just go in the pilot. Can they look? Not a 40,000 feet. How do they breathe? No, I imagine that would be difficult. Well, you pressurized at that point, but I imagine, yeah, that that would be physically difficult. Oh, so when you're lowering down, You could, yeah, you could certainly open. You can open the window lower than whatever miles or whatever. Yeah, when I was flying to Calabra, we were in a plane. I only flew at 1,500 feet, and it was like, you could open the window. Yeah, stick your finger out.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I want to go out. I don't do that. I tell you what, before, you don't see them around very often, but I saw a couple of airships recently on me travels. And, God, those look chill. Those look like a lot of fun. very like it feels like it's got the safety of it looks like it's got the safety of like an airline with all of the
Starting point is 00:20:44 you know the things you can get up to on an airline bit of food bit of telly or whatever but oh the grace of it all and the quiet as well you reckon it would be quiet yeah I think so it's not like it's not helicopter or plane loud I've seen videos where
Starting point is 00:20:58 you know for promotional reasons they'll get like wrestlers up and yeah it's good it looks really chill I would like to go on an airship though I imagine the ones in the UK wouldn't be very nice I'll tell you what doesn't look chill the Hindenburg disaster
Starting point is 00:21:12 well I forget which was it hydrogen was that the problematic one I forget one like yeah one of them's fucked one was absolutely fucked one of them absolute one gas fucked it it was hydrogen wasn't it
Starting point is 00:21:24 it's very very flammable pretty quick I know what you mean though I mean though I mean it looks quite it's something quite retro futuristic about it yeah
Starting point is 00:21:32 and like you know Indiana Jones is probably going to be having like fight in one A bit of that, yes, a bit of that. Other than that. Have you seen any of the new Alien Earth series? I haven't, no. People have been saying it's exactly that.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Pretty good. Pretty good. And what's really interesting about it is being done in a retro futuristic style. So, like, you know when you saw the prequel to the Star Wars movies? Yeah. It's a bit weird because they're supposed to be before the movies, but they're so much better.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Not much better. Yeah. Whereas this one is done. it's set before I can't remember exactly where it is in the timeline but it's set in the future but obviously it's being done in a retro futuristic way
Starting point is 00:22:15 so the technology they're using stuff is like pleasingly quite 1970s right and that's where the charm comes from that's where like I think the video game Starfield was this kind of NASA futuristic kind of stuff where everything looks
Starting point is 00:22:29 like a dumb terminal and everything's like whoa my cat's a cat what a What on earth! Alicited that problem? Wow! The howling of that cat was amazing. One of them's in the seat with the other one wants to be in.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Dickheads. Carry on. They're always at it. One's in the comfy seat. One of them's trying to get the other seat out of the comfy seat to just be better. Yeah, I love anything like that. I love that kind of, you know, 70- sci-fi vibe to stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:01 It just makes it feel more realistic and more kind of weight. Yeah, it's good. I think it's a good show It started off a little bit slow I wasn't that into it at the start But it's really come on Anyway, let's have a break Because I've got a couple of emails
Starting point is 00:23:13 I want to do, mate We're back with Luca Peter And we've got just enough time To give you a couple of emails If that's right with you Yes, well, it's all right with me, Peter This one's from Andy Who's got back in touch
Starting point is 00:23:25 Off the back of the chat on civil servant And government Procurement Now it's not as boring As I've made it sound there. Okay, he says, hi, guys. Did we not talk about this last week?
Starting point is 00:23:39 Like a, you know, a little rubber, nothing. Yeah, it's a follow-up. It's a follow-up, me. 70 quid or something. Yeah. He says, I'll work in government, and as a proud member of the Luke Nation, I'd like to point out that Luke is correct on two things, but potentially wrong on the third.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Yes, you're right. Government waste is excessive, and they fail to address the recommendations from staff and instead do horrendous things, such as canceling estates, facilities, management contracts, and then retender at a lower price, which then cuts the wages of all the essential workers. workers. He's also right that our contacts for other procurement with large management consultancies like PWC, Accenture or E&Y are quite scandalous. Having spent five years working for one of
Starting point is 00:24:15 those before moving over, I can say firsthand the contracts are a joke. And if the public knew, there'd probably be riots. Examples include charging and government hours billed for managers when they actually just provide a lower grade and justify it as a temporary promotion for the contract. They have follow-on clauses which poorly trained. government lawyers don't consider, you know, and he said, however, for Peaks' interest on military procurement, Luke did slightly miss the mark. Yes, military contractors also shaft the government, your example of $350 for a cork. However, this is because the items procured usually need to meet certain or specialist safety standards. To use your truck and drainage whole cork analogy,
Starting point is 00:25:00 if that truck is carrying corrosive liquids or fuel, the cork must make sure. it doesn't rot or get destroyed, which would lead to leakage. Also, you have no idea where the truck might be operating. Hence, the cork would need to work at minus 30 in Norway or plus 45 in the desert. The cork must be able to expand or shrink and still do its job. If either of you have watched a West Wing, I haven't. There's a great episode on this where Christian Slater's cameo explains why an ashtray or glass bowl costs so much. He goes to smash the civilian version and it explodes into a million pieces. He then says, imagine if a small bit of that glass got stuck behind the missile launch button would all be fucked, highlighting
Starting point is 00:25:39 a military one would be required to make to a higher tolerance. So you said there's a lot of detail in that, a lot of dev in the detail, but an interesting follow-up on what we were talking about. I think so. And it's almost unfortunate that we used the £350 for a cork analogy because I think you probably could make a pretty good cork for 50 quid. I think you probably could. But you know what I mean. I'm going to chuck on another. the email onto the email at Barbecue if that's right with everybody we got one from Jack
Starting point is 00:26:10 Jack Jack Jack Jack Jack Jack Jack he's my bobby boo A little Jackie boy Jackie Hello fine gentlemen On the last show when Luke mentioned First meeting someone you shake their hand
Starting point is 00:26:21 And say your name and expect them to say theirs Well you're struggling with this don't you die I certainly do Yeah I actually saw someone worse than me at Small Talk And it was a man Who has been accused of the disappearance of
Starting point is 00:26:36 Madeline McCamp that gentleman who was in a phone shop and he's a suspect isn't he I think this fella and if he's not he's on the news he's on the news talking about anyway
Starting point is 00:26:50 he was caught on a security camera showing basically in a phone shop you know those kind of phone shops where you just buy in either vapes or phone cases do you know any of those kind of shops he's in there and he's got small talk with the up behind and in in i want to say Portugal maybe not um anyway he's uh he's showing off his ankle tag
Starting point is 00:27:11 that he's got he's showing off his ankle tag and uh and he's talking about how i'm gonna get murdered because i just know too much about a certain little news story right no no no you know all this and and i just felt that man in this in the phone shop just telling everyone about his dark secret it made me believe that he completely innocent of all charges because he just sounds like an idiot. And two, it also makes me think that he's just bad at small talk. Just bad at small talk. Yeah, it does sound very, very poor, this small talk effort there. What's Jack saying? Jack is saying, I met my new neighbours last month, a lovely older couple, but not the age to be described as elderly. They were moving in with their son and toddler grandson helping. I extended
Starting point is 00:27:58 my hand to the lady and introduce myself, hi, I'm Jack, nice to meet you. Her reply, friendly enough, was, nice to meet you. This is my husband, my son and his son. Names redacted. And I'm Grandma. Not one to be rude and ask what her name actually is. I just smiled and carried on the chat. Now I'm at the point of exchanging pleasantries
Starting point is 00:28:14 and knowing her as Grandma next door. What do I do? Do I suck it up and ask? Do I ask another neighbour? Or do I just steal their mail? Jack, you can't steal someone. You can't have to. You reckon. You can't suck it up and just sort of go,
Starting point is 00:28:27 sorry. You did say your name was Grandma, but I'm probably going to need more than that. You need to be on the guard. You need to be on the Gordon Ramsey vibe, because Gordon always goes, hello darling, Gordon, name is, name is. What's your name, dog? Oh, name is. You've got to, you've got to ask explicitly with some people.
Starting point is 00:28:43 But the problem I find isn't that. The problem I find is even if I do explicitly ask their name, which I do sometimes, I instantly forget it. If I'm trying to find out more than two names at once in a situation, I'm forgetting the, probably within a few minutes. Like the amount of times I'm with my son and someone comes over with their child of a similar age from nursery or from the playground or whatever
Starting point is 00:29:11 and they clearly know who we are I'm literally like oh saying to my son who's that who's that but I'm genuinely asking him who's that because he remembers everyone so right he'll go oh it's Johnny or whatever oh Johnny and Johnny's mom you know what I mean you're using your son
Starting point is 00:29:30 like a file of facts from the 80s And he doesn't even know. He does not even know he's being... Little Ronnie Roller Dex. He doesn't even know. I'm Geppetto to his Pinocchio. I'm planning like a fiddle. Oh, well done.
Starting point is 00:29:42 And if you want another snack, you're going to answer my question. Yeah. Let me use some of your data. Let me use some of your brain killer bites. Listen, that's a confusing situation for you to be in Jack. You are going to have to ask around, look at the post, you know, whatever. Or the other one you can do is, remind me of the spelling of your name, which is a high risk manoeuvre
Starting point is 00:30:02 because if it's like John, I suppose John could be J-O-H-N or J-I-N so that would work. G-R-A-N-D-M-A-M-A-M-A-B-A-M-A-B-A-R-A-B-A-R-A-N-A-B-A-R-N-A-R-N-A-N-B-A-R-N-A-N-B-A-R-N-A-N-B-A-R-N-A-R-B-A-L-A-R-B-A-R-B-A-R-B-A-R-B-A-L. We'll be back on Thursday. So get your batteries in. Hello at Luke Pete Show.com. And we'll see you then. Tata on. See on Thursday. Bye.

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