The Luke and Pete Show - Not an AI-generated Podcast

Episode Date: June 1, 2026

Luke’s been to a conference and has discovered that there are companies producing thousands of 100% AI-generated podcast episodes each and every week. It’s the Wild West out there. But not here. T...he robots can never replace Mr Moore and Mr Donaldson.Also on the agenda this fine Monday morning: tales from the tip and the Facebook algorithm’s love for a certain British gangster film.Send us your latest stories, questions and comments here: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com.The Luke and Pete Show is the sometimes ridiculous, always funny podcast with Luke Moore and Pete Donaldson: two men who have time on their hands and a good idea of how to waste it. Subscribe to get your comedy podcast fix every Monday and Thursday. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's a many happy returns. It's Monday the 1st of June and you're listening to the Luke of Pete show. Lukie Muwa, how the devil are you doing? I'm very, very well, Peter. Thank you very much for asking. How are you? I'm good. I'm enjoying this slightly different angle on your camera.
Starting point is 00:00:22 You get to see a little bit more of your green walls. What pictures are you going to put on the wall behind you? Well, we've just had a little debate about that with the Wi-Fi of access to actually. because... Spick fire. Big picture of a motorcycle and a lady. I wanted a motorcycle with a lady in a bikini
Starting point is 00:00:39 drooped over it and I wanted a big plate of chips and a pint of bitter that's the only artwork in the house and she said no that's poor taste so if the neighbours heard about that the residents association hear about it
Starting point is 00:00:53 you'll be in big trouble so no but we had a bit of a debate because I've got a really cool limit edition print of the first pressing of Bargakov's The Master and Margarita which I always had up in the house and now she's saying that she doesn't want it
Starting point is 00:01:09 she doesn't want it up so now it's adorable that you're still trying this deep into a relationship but we've just got a new house you've got to decorate you got to do some stuff with it you do got to decorate it but and you know presumably after you bought a house you can't buy any more stuff
Starting point is 00:01:26 can't go to an art fair and start laying down 100 quid air hundred quid day. Car boot. That's right it. Yeah. So all of my paintings and all of my pictures and all of my little odds and sods curiosities are in the apology cabin along with a lot of sawdust at this moment in time. Yeah, so I think in the office up here where I'm going to be doing a lot of the work, I think it's fine for me to probably do what I want. So maybe the master of margarita will go up here. But what I actually said to her was, if you don't let me put that up in the bedroom, I'm going to have Pete Donaldson around here and he's going to do a back.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Ballastrade in the garden. I'm going to put, I've got one glass sheet left if you want to. We've got a big balustrade in the upstairs bathroom, but I didn't realize. I didn't realize that's what a balustrade was, yeah. Oh. What is a walking shower thing? Oh, like a glass, it's a glass screen then? Like a glass wall, but you can't move it.
Starting point is 00:02:19 It's like, it's built into the floor. No, it's extra stuck. I find them, um, uh, sometimes have them in hotels and you're like, I can't access the taps here. They're under, the taps are on the wrong lap. At one point I'm going to walk into it. it's just going to shatter. But yeah, so we've got one already. That's what I'm worried about my bit of glass
Starting point is 00:02:36 that I've got left over that the man gave me. I'm a little bit concerned that I'm not going to get rid of this one. It's massive, it's really heavy. I think I might just have to smash it and deal with the consequences. I think you should smash it.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I think you should smash it actually. Well, when I install, I've drilled eight of the halls that need to be drilled for these pieces of glass. It's taken an awful long time. I'm doing it in... What are you do with five minutes a day? My neighbours are loving it.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Yeah, pretty much. I'm doing a bit of a bit of plaster in here, a bit of rendering here, a bit of painting there. And it turns out when you put the old plaster up, the old rendering, you got to wait a month before you paint it. What's that about? Yeah. I mean...
Starting point is 00:03:24 Outrageous. I don't know what it's about because I've not ever done it. I'm a really key junction at the moment because obviously there's lots to do around this house and I'm being kind of I'm basically kind of have to be responsible
Starting point is 00:03:44 enough to make my own decisions about what I can and can't do and what I can't do is a lot and what I can do is kind of negligible and and it was and you know what I really want I told you the other day I really want the water pressure boosted. So I'm going to speak to the plumbering.
Starting point is 00:04:03 The plumbering came down did the stock clock that we didn't need. I'm going to get him back and see if he wants to do that. And we've got to get some double glazing put in as well. I feel like it's one of those, I feel like water pressure is one of those things that needs to be,
Starting point is 00:04:15 it's one of those things that they'll go up. Oh, can't anything about that. It's like lead. No, you, listen, I don't give a shit. Listen, no, no, no. You see what we can do with technology these days? You honestly tell them they can't boost the water pressure from someone's house.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Yeah, but you can't, You can't, presumably it's the water coming into your house. You can't make, you can't get more, look, take it up with terms of water. I know you, I know you'd love another argument. AI, yeah. Yeah, I know. I mean, it's some AI on it, crying out loud. No, yeah, I mean, it does obviously depend on that, but I mean, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:04:43 I feel like there should be some kind of available fix for this. We'll see. Did you see, did you see that there was a film that was sort of kicking around the internet, sort of saying? This film cost half a million quid, 100 grand for the filming bit, and then the rest they spent on AI, feel like they had CGI and stuff. I never was very excited about it. But you do sort of go,
Starting point is 00:05:07 I don't want this to be the way it all sort of goes down. Because are you familiar with the Essex series of films called Rise of the Foot Soldier? Yeah, of course I am. I get it served off on my Facebook. Part of the reason I'm hardly ever on Facebook. It's because just clips from suits.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Is it suits or, yeah, it's suits, isn't it? The two lawyers. The Megan Markle. The one with Megan Markle in. Yeah. I get a lot of suits. I get a lot of Rise of the Foot Soldier content. And have he seen the man who's in Rise of the Foot Soldier?
Starting point is 00:05:36 I presume he funded it. Craig Fairbrough. Paired for it. No, there's another block. Oh, the other guy who wears the wig? Terry Stone. Yes. Why does he wear a wig?
Starting point is 00:05:45 What is that? Is that a joke? Well, because he's playing it. It's based on some real characters, isn't it? So he's playing. That's what the guy had hair like in the 80s or 90s or something. I understand. That makes more sense.
Starting point is 00:05:57 because he's in every film looking. I just thought he turned up to do some filming and then decided that he was going to wear a wig to look cool. But what curiously tangled whip, we've weaved for ourselves as a society where for some reason, I don't believe that the people running
Starting point is 00:06:15 the rise of the foot soldier official or fan accounts have got the heads up on what the Facebook algorithm favors over quite a lot of other content creators. So it just must be that the algorithm them itself has decided that you and I want to see Rise of the Footsoldiers. I never talk about the film. I've never seen it.
Starting point is 00:06:34 It's not my cup of here at all. I have seen it in clips. I think I've probably watched most of it in clips. But it's relentless when you get served up. Popper naughty pills. Oh yeah. Let's go get some pills. But are those films still sort of coming out?
Starting point is 00:06:47 Because now I move to Essex, maybe I get a piece. I think it's like a northern fence. You'll be in one. You'll be like a very effeminate northern, yeah, fence or like that. Yeah. You definitely are killed on the first act. No, I'd be a very camp. A very camp, bad guy.
Starting point is 00:07:03 What would you do when you walked in the room to do the deal? What did you say? Hello, boys. Got the materials for me out here. Shall I play Terry Stone? Okay. Fuck me, it's a nonce. That's rude, Harry.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And may I say your hair's looking of splendid today. And we all know it's not real. Get your noncey, ferns. into you out of my sight, you sigh. Now, gentlemen, I have come here not to talk to you, Baldi. He's a mug. He's a mug, Terry. I've come here to sell you some of the very best heroin north of the Burgain parties.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Go get my shirt. Go get my shirt. You're not really listening to anything I'm saying. I'm a very, very important big thing in the prime underworld. And there's blocs from like the bill rock up Yeah, he's like All sorts of people from And they'll just sort of turn up
Starting point is 00:08:04 Yeah, I absolutely love it I don't know what it is It's like a really really really really shit version Of the excellent sexy beast is what it is Yes, yeah Yeah, that's what it seems to be modelling That's what it seemed to be, that's the energy I seem to be going for
Starting point is 00:08:16 But it's a bit of lockstock Bit of lock stock in there Peter there's been a lot of feedback In the negative Around your claim that What a surprise. You're doing corrections and you've got the Vim and Vigar, the interest in doing corrections one week and it's all about me being wrong, is it? It's not necessarily a correction.
Starting point is 00:08:41 It's more just the kind of follow up. And this is going to sound crazy in microcosm out of context, particularly to people who don't listen very often, that you made quite the claim last Monday that suicide bubbles can only be identified by the, their bums. That's not how I said it. I said that I'd heard because bums are meaty and juicier. You'd heard. Who said it?
Starting point is 00:09:05 Who told you it? How's that come up? I can't remember. I think I read it somewhere. The bums always survive. The blast, so to speak. I just don't think that can be true. That famous photo of the bus in that square in London.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Yeah. There wasn't a big bum there? Everything was, yeah, but everyone was going up, wasn't it? Everything went up and out. what's happening at the bottom? That's what I ask. That's what I ask you. Yeah, I just think people,
Starting point is 00:09:30 people have, they're not taking an exception to it because I think they expect this kind of chat from you, but they, I think they think this is, this is a fanciful claim at best. I don't think,
Starting point is 00:09:38 yeah, but I don't think they know the information to the contrary. So one might suggest that I'm the only one bringing any set sort of facts to the table. So debate me. I'm the bloc in the,
Starting point is 00:09:48 on the table said, debate me. Teach the controversy. Exactly. That's what they say, isn't it? Exactly. Let's just teach the controversy.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Yeah, I think the Earth is 6,000 years old. You think that evolution is real. Let's just teach the controversy. Yeah. Teach the controversy. What is that? The controversy you've invented.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Yeah, it's not really a debate, is it? Peter, last week was the podcast show. It was, yes. The industry event for our industry. I did a couple of panels. Did you do a panel? I didn't do a panel, no. That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:10:22 It's ridiculous that you're not doing panels. I've got a lobby for it these days. I know, but you're the most podcast bloke ever. You've done so many episodes. To be honest, if the little Aircast interview that a couple of lasters from Aircast were what on with microphones and a camera, actually was just an iPhone, to be fair. I had that last year.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Asking questions. Yeah, I did last year. And this year was just, what podcast do you listen to? I'm like, all the off-your-s songs. I'm on podcasts. The ones I listen to, the one I'm bloody editing for crying out loud. Yeah, I felt like I let the side down a little bit Because I didn't have much to say about the future of podcasting
Starting point is 00:11:00 Yeah, I should have just made one up, yeah The thing I was going to say to you was Because this is a little bit inside baseball But allow me to wrestle it back There was a panel with a And one of the voices on this particular panel Was a woman who has created a company That makes exclusively
Starting point is 00:11:20 AI hosted and produced podcasts and she claims to have made 10,000 episodes a week or a month or something. And there's not any, there's not any, um, um, human interaction in at all. And, um, the, the Q and A was, uh, uh, vociferous, shall we say. Yeah. People just going, what, what are you doing it? Why are you? Yeah. It's not really a, uh, yeah. It's, it's, it's, I could, I think she probably was quite surprised because if you're kind of, you see it on the trend quite a lot
Starting point is 00:11:58 on the way into the city, you see all these lads who work there, they're all on Claude and they're all vibe coding stuff. And because they're all doing it. What do you mean by that? Like, you know, like, how to make a computer program
Starting point is 00:12:12 or an app or something? You had to kind of know how to program a computer. Now you don't necessarily. You can make an approximation of an app. I mean, it needs a lot of work. They frequently, you know, I've had a little bit of it and nothing I've created
Starting point is 00:12:26 has needed you know, could just be released as it is. You need a lot of work to sort of go through it and stuff and fix what's wrong with it. And, you know, sometimes, you know, systems like Claude
Starting point is 00:12:36 will just do one thing and then you go, you haven't done a thing and they go, oh yeah, sorry, it's kind of the way that the, it's someone else's fault. And then you ask it again.
Starting point is 00:12:45 And it fucks it up again. You go, seriously, this bit, you know, I'm on nodding terms with programming languages. I could probably do this myself. can you just change this variable to this? And they go, oh yeah, so you're talking about it.
Starting point is 00:12:56 So you're basically just, you know, telling someone how to, you know, really specifically how to make an omelette. And so, like, everyone's on the train and they're all sort of vibe coding. They're all creating their own little programs and stuff. And if you are hanging out with other people who are just doing that sort of thing,
Starting point is 00:13:09 you know, talking about Claude and all, talking about all of the eye things and stuff, it's fine, but you do, you're in a bit of a information bubble on you, really, a little bit. And so when you step outside now... She hasn't lifted their head and realized that actually this is a terrible place for me to be because the podcast shows for people who really like podcasts with real people. And it's kind of, yeah, yeah, if you're in this, if you were getting money out the city to sort of go,
Starting point is 00:13:35 podcasts are popular, podcasts make a bit of money, they certainly make less than they used to, but they make a bit of money still. And do you, do you, we could create so many episodes of, you know, we could make the next, this is football or whatever, um, uh, we could make a million new episodes of that from, from nothing for a standing start and it'd be great. You'd probably get, you know, a round of applause and, you know, so many, you know, thousands and thousands of pounds from the city. But if you sort of step outside of that, talk to talk to a bit,
Starting point is 00:14:03 we'd actually spend all of their time crafting these, you know, it's not art, is it? But it's something approaching now compared to what she does. A difficult, so what was the most kind of, uh, uh, eyeful response to what she was doing? It's just kind of like a, what? A couple of things sticking to mind. One is, one of the questions was, are the episodes clearly marked and does everyone who's listening know they're listening to AI people?
Starting point is 00:14:29 Yeah. And she claimed they were clearly marked. And I'm not sure people believed her. And then the question which sticks in my mind was, you've got several financial and medical podcasts. And will you commit to screening all those and ensuring that any misinformation financially or medically is immediately withdrawn. and she was like, well, I can't commit to that at this stage. If I was like, boo, fucking boo! Boom!
Starting point is 00:14:55 I love it! Yeah. A lot of fun. A lot of fun. There's a weird place for it to turn up, though, because I mean, you know, Stephen Bartlett's got a lot of stick for doing saying stuff like this. It's like, to me, it completely misses the entire point. I understand how AI can be really helpful to automate processes, to do post-production, to help with marketing, to help assign your budgets, whatever. Working with algorithms that created to controllers anyway. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:16 Exactly. Exactly. Like, telling us what the most successful A-B testing on a YouTube? you bit of artwork. But people want a human connection, don't know? That's what I listen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:25 And also, when you're, when you're doing something like that, if you've ever listened to, I've been caught a few times watching like some, you know, historical kind of,
Starting point is 00:15:34 you know, collection of football. Oh, caught with the Max Downman or something on the other day. Gutting. Which was the Max Downman? Was that AI? Or was that kind of?
Starting point is 00:15:42 Well, is him turning up back at school after the Aston won the Premier League and all his, all his castmates clapping him. And apparently it was not real. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Who's making? Who's making that? Who's making that? Some very earnest, weepy little people. Yeah. That's the thing that gets me. It's not the AI. The AI, you know, just does whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Somebody says, it's the people who do this sort of thing. It's the Krucahn Gazette, man I keep talking about. Yeah. It's the people who make these kind of like, you know, you know, a cat comes home to see that the cat husband has run off with a dog or something. And then they go on adventures. You're okay, mate. It's the Messi and Ronaldo, the baby Messi and.
Starting point is 00:16:20 and Daddy Ronaldo kind of I don't know who makes these things but like if you've ever sort of been caught watching like a YouTube video and suddenly the voice of just sort of says and then he stepped into the ring and it just starts hallucinate
Starting point is 00:16:37 and gone ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha and then it'll stop and go ah yeah it's I think it's frightening
Starting point is 00:16:46 I think it's frightening because it's so human sounding and it just sounds like someone losing their fucking law. I had a really weird, sorry, I had a really weird experience with Claude the other day, right? So we're
Starting point is 00:17:00 putting together, we don't know what our next legacy project's going to be, right? So we're looking for different stories and getting people to submit their ideas and, you know, just basically brainstorm what our next project should be after we just finished Defiant. And I thought, you know what I should do? I'll tell you what to save me a bit of time
Starting point is 00:17:16 is I will get Claude to collate all the long form kind of long read sports based stuff it can find not because i wanted to do my job for me but just go i've got it all in one place and i can just go through it and work for it and see if there's any stuff there that could be optioned or you know anything of interest and all the rest of it right so i asked claude to do that and uh it put together loads of stuff it got to be like 15 20 um 20 um odd um ideas for long read stories that are out there on the internet that might be of interest, you know. And so I started looking through them all, right?
Starting point is 00:17:56 And one that really took my eye, caught my eye, was an article in the New York Times magazine called The Cult of Lead, L-A-I-R-D, right? And I was like, this seems pretty interesting. And what it was about was, it was about a surfer, quite a famous surfer called Laird Hamilton. is well known as being a big wave surfer and he was basically the guy
Starting point is 00:18:23 who invented a thing called tow in surfing which is where you get towed into a wave by like a jet ski so you can ride much bigger waves and he's been surfing until like 1970 like he's in the 60s and stuff and he's a bit of a legend and then the story claims to be about
Starting point is 00:18:38 how he started his own cult and you know how people are joining it and they can't leave and they start off doing like wellness stuff and surfing and outdoor stuff. And because he was a model and his wife is a fashion model, they get people in and they can't leave. And I was like, fucking that, this sounds mad.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I've never read this story before. Brilliant. So I was like, okay, Claude, can you find a link for me? And Claude was like, oh, I can't find a link? You need to find it yourself. I was like, right, okay, I'll find it myself. Can you tell me some more about it? And they told me some more, he told me some more about it,
Starting point is 00:19:09 De Claude. And then I said, oh, how do I find the URL? Because I can't find it. And Claude suggests I typed in a certain amount of things into the Google search bar and all the rest of it. I still can't find it. And then I just sent a thing saying Claude, have you made this up? And then Claude was like,
Starting point is 00:19:25 yeah, sorry about that. I completely made it up. I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, yeah, I just, yeah, I'll promise you. Does the guy exist? He exists. He's a surfer. Right. He is not, as far as I can tell, not controversial in any way. He's not a member of a cult, does not run a cult. It's just
Starting point is 00:19:45 what Claude seems. to have done is kind of interpret what I wanted as me wanting him to make up a story. Make up stories, yeah. It would be interesting that I could, it was fucking bonkers, mate.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And I'll tell you what, you know, I've said it to all these people listening now, but generally, like genuinely, if I was Led Hamilton and I knew that was happening about me, I'd be fucking raging. Well, look, just do it. Just put a documentary out about it and use Claude to defend yourself in cards. It's so bad.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Isn't that so bad, though? And people say to me, your prompts have got to be better and stuff. It's like, well, the prompts aren't the problem. I was very clear what I wanted. Yeah, it's not, I'm not asking it to tell me what the weather's going to be like a Mars in fucking two months' time.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I'm asking a very, very specific question. And then Claude was like, oh, yeah, I shouldn't have done that. I'm sorry about that. It's not what you want. It's the mealy mounds don't worry. But for me, it's the buck passing whenever I'm sort of doing, like, you know, I've not done a whole lot of it,
Starting point is 00:20:46 but I had a little fiddle. And I was trying to make it do, like just basically make a Python script for a E-ink thing I was trying to do. And I'd sort of done it anywhere myself, but it was just, it wasn't communicating with a very specific module in the programming language that was running on this little E-ink display that I was you. And I can't figure this out at all. So I'll see if that can do it. And it just kept on, like, it couldn't do it either. It was interesting. And every time it fucked up, it would say,
Starting point is 00:21:17 it's actually because of the limitations of the e-ink display that you've chosen to and it's like all right fine but you're a computer just talk to you know what I mean just tell me whether it's possible or not like don't just but that's a thing like these these things it's not like I think we've spoken about before like the the the people spending all his money on AI and it works now as a subscription service because you have to have 10 10 goals at getting anything out of it yeah if it moves to a token base system which financially has to at some point because AI is just really
Starting point is 00:21:49 wasteful financially and it's going to run out of money and data centre space soon enough it's going to have to move to a token-based system and there's no guarantee that you get anything normal out of it the first time out so tokens, something could either take one token or 50 tokens to get it right
Starting point is 00:22:06 that's really interesting to me that token system Pete that token system seems to me like it would be the death of the whole thing I mean what on earth? The whole internet is is, you know, if you think of, you could limit Google searches, for example. I mean, no, yeah, it is like that, yeah. It takes, you know, you Google something a few times
Starting point is 00:22:25 to get to where you needed to be. And yeah, it's exactly the same with AI. Because these data centers aren't getting put online in any kind of short order, and by the time a lot of these data centers will go online, you know, the ones in Abilene, Texas, by the time they go online, all of the tech that's being installed
Starting point is 00:22:42 will be, it's like the fourth bridge, it'll be out of date, and you've got put more stuff in, new processes, new GPUs and stuff. So it's starting to look way more precarious than what it used to be. There's, I think it's Amazon, I think Amazon workers who work for them. They've got an inbuilt kind of AI system. And they are using AI to do all of the non-important tasks just to make it look like, because you're basically told, use AI as much as you can, use the Amazon AI.
Starting point is 00:23:14 AIs when she's going and so these guys are just constantly just trying to use AI for the more spurious reasons just to get there you know just to make it look like they use an AI more because it pleases the CEO it pleases the bosses and they're calling it um token maxing we're calling yeah right that makes sense yeah it's just nice you know when the metabast thing got to fill over and it turned out there was like 400 people worldwide using it and half of them like worked for facebook all yeah it's um it's kind of strange a time on the wrong a lot of the um just because everyone's look for the everyone's looking for the next sort of,
Starting point is 00:23:45 you know, magic bullet. You know, the technology is incredible, but it's just very computationally expensive and we don't have the, people just aren't getting
Starting point is 00:23:53 these data centers and on and, on quickly enough. My feeling is that like, to me it feels like the, um, the most successful inventions, not just of this type, but like generally are things that like,
Starting point is 00:24:07 fill a need that perhaps we didn't know we had. And I, and to me it feels at the moment, like the cartes before the horse. It's like you've got this amazing technology. But what's the actual need for it? Yeah. But it's, but it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:24:23 I think that the technology isn't as amazing as you think it is when you think of how much, how many computers are getting thrown at the problem. Do you know what I mean? There's no reason why my dad's, why Kuka and Gazette Man can, KruKan Gazette Man can, can, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:38 be able to produce Hollywood, uh, level, kind of, um, animations. for his shitty YouTube channel. Like, you know, they fell out,
Starting point is 00:24:46 the darkness was, Justin Hawkins was saying, because he got put in one of the videos and he was furious. He's like, I didn't give you fucking permission at this. Yeah, I bet he was.
Starting point is 00:24:53 It's a disgrace. Well, that's part of the reason all those actors were striking, the writers were striking this stuff, isn't it back in the year ago? He was like, he was more annoyed the fact that he did his,
Starting point is 00:25:02 his teeth fixed and he was using the old, the old diversion. He's also lost a lot of weight as well. He looks amazing. Yeah. And he's definitely put his money to good use. Yeah. But I think it's also,
Starting point is 00:25:12 like I said, the creative people, the Hollywood creatives and stuff, the contracts that a lot of these actors were initially asked to sign was like, oh, they want to use our likeness in perpetuity. It's like, well, it's obvious that you're going to fucking, you're not going to need us for work anymore because who can tell, you know, who can tell.
Starting point is 00:25:29 So it's a weird timeline that we're on. Perhaps on to more, perhaps on to more relatable ground, Peter. I've just got back from the tip. Oh, lovely stuff. Been dropping up. picking up. The household waste recycling centre. What would I be possibly picking out from the tip? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:25:48 I don't know. Just collect stuff from the tip. You honestly saying you do that? Cheek little drug deal. They literally won't let you. Even the smallest thing they notice you pick it off and they tell you off. Well, that's what I was thinking, because the one I went to was on Smuggler's Way and Wanderwee was the big one because the one near me, my God, it's got so bad.
Starting point is 00:26:08 You have to book an appointment. What do you mean? Like how busy it is? Yeah. No, you have to book an appointment. And seriously, last time I went there, over 50% of the stuff I wanted to take there, they wouldn't take. What do you mean? They wouldn't take rubble. Spestos.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Rubble! They wouldn't take tempered glass. They wouldn't take material or furniture. What are they taking them? What are you for? What are you for? Why are they not taking that then? So you've got to go smugglers way as they take everything.
Starting point is 00:26:40 To be fair to smugglers way, very good automobers. system, Dan & Wonsworth, and they take everything. They've even got two massive skips that just say, anything goes. Really? What? Just anything you want to put in there? They say, don't put anything that you know to be recyclable in here, but anything else can go in there. It's just the, it's just, I like the sort of, you've got the main, you know, wood, the stuff that is like sofers and stuff. And then you've got your recycling bits and clothing as well. But then you've got your rubble, you've got your building materials, you've got garden waste stuff, garden waste, you've got your e-waste, all the tellies and all that stuff, bicycles, things like that.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Yeah, that's what I was going to say, there's loads of TVs there. Yeah, wild. You can make yourself a big video screen at the tip. And there's ones where, like, it'll just be like a little bit where you put car batteries, batteries, paint, oils, car oil, different kinds of oils. Oh, mate. I love it. There was also a list of certain chemicals that you can't take there, that you have to call a special number for them to come and collect.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And I was like, I wonder what they are. I'd love to know what they are. Why would you have any else? Because it's not a commercial place. You can't go there as a business. You can't go in there with a van or a lorry. You have to go in with a car. Yeah, but that's the main, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Like, the annoying thing is you can, they, you turn up. And if you've got, like, anything that you can fit something decent in, you know, I don't know, I don't know the difference between a, Toyota pickup and a people carrier because it can carry the exactly the same stuff just because you got Toyota pickup up. My car's pretty big but I was allowed in but I had to book ahead of time. But what I was going to say to you was that
Starting point is 00:28:17 when I was there there was a bloke, quite an awkward bloke who was standing next to the one that I was using and he was trying to get the attention of one of the operators there and I was thinking all right it's like an animal in there or something like I can, I don't know I can squirrel or a rat or a fox or something
Starting point is 00:28:34 right, yeah. And so I went over there to have a little nosy he looked quite um he looked quite um you looked quite um uh he looked quite urgent if you know what i mean he was like excuse me he'd like that i'm there must be an animal there or something so went over there um i promise this is true he looked at him looked over and he had just thrown a nice pair of his shoes in there by accident can you get my shoes that and this guy covered with a massive extended arm like picker yeah picked shoe out two shoes around once at one at a time how's his day gone like like that.
Starting point is 00:29:09 I think what it happened was he was probably keeping the shoes in the boot and he kind of scooped everything up and chucked it in and he realised. Right. Okay, yeah, nice. But I actually love a trip. I actually love a trip to the tip. We love a tip.
Starting point is 00:29:20 I'd love to work there. I'd absolutely love to wear it. The visceral, it's just having one of those kind of like chomp, those things that like push all the stuff down further into the bin, making most of all of the space that you've got. I absolutely adore it. At Smuggler's Way, there's a guy in a man.
Starting point is 00:29:38 massive, almost like converted JCP with one of those on the end and he just goes up and down the road. Squish. Smacking it down. It's exciting stuff. It is good stuff. It is. It's big boy stuff. Love it. All right then. We'll be back
Starting point is 00:29:52 for the next dors of the Luton Peet Show, if that's all right with you, on Thursday the 4th of June. I'm going to be Donaldson. That man there has been Luggen, we'll see you soon. Go get the shooter. The Luke and Pete Show is a stack production. the ACAST creator network.

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