The Luke and Pete Show - One noodle sandwich with no crusts, please

Episode Date: November 26, 2020

It’s Thursday, which means another dose of nonsense from The Luke and Pete Show! On today’s episode, Pete's joined by independent filmmaker, Youtuber and voice of the Abroad In Japan podcast, Chris Broad! From Yamagata to Hartlepool, the boys discuss rumours surrounding Pete’s secret Japanese family and what it takes to become a successful Youtuber. Meanwhile, Chris gives us a taste of his adventurous diet involving coffee, fried chicken, and the odd noodle sandwich...Elsewhere, we have some very exciting emails covering everything from popcorn fraud to the bizarre link between Star Trek: Voyager and Barack Obama’s presidential election. Don’t miss out!Have you ever eaten a meaty ice pop before? Email in to [e-mail]! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to the Luke and Pete Show. My name is Pete Donaldson. And once again, like Monday, we're joined by Mark Haynes from Wrestle.me. We're actually joined by another of our Stakhanov contributors, Mr. Chris Broad from the Abroad in Japan podcast slash YouTube channel. You all right, Chris? Hello from a house in North Japan. How you doing?

Have a good day. I'm hello from a house in north japan how you doing have a good day i'm i'm also in a house in england um so chris uh just a little bit of a 411 on christopher he is a japanese slash he's a youtuber who lives in japan he's originally from kent in england and now he lives in japan and he's a very successful youtuber and I do a show with him every single week. So it's not just Luke and Pete show, it's not just the Football Ramble, it's not even just Wrestle Me. I also do a fourth show abroad in Japan. So if you ever see me, if I'm a little bit skittish,

if I'm a little bit confused, if I don't really know what I'm doing, it's because I do four different podcasts a week, if not nine. You're a mentor. You have a podcast empire, to be honest, Pete. Yeah. It boggles my mind how you have the time to do it all.

And somehow before this, before the old COVID thing, you were coming over to Japan as well frequently in between. So you're a busy man. People joke that I have a secret Japanese family. Now, Chris, you've seen me in Japan. Can you confirm or deny that I have a beautiful Japanese family? He does have a beautiful Japanese family. Keiko-san.

Keiko Yamada. Keiko-san. Okay, right. Where did he get that name from? She lives in Nagasaki. Whenever Pete comes to Japan, he disappears to Nagasaki for a week or two. And legend has it that's where he hangs out with Keiko and his little child, Takeshi Satori. Why has the child got a different name to the mum?

You adopted it. It doesn't make any sense. I adopted it. Yeah, but you don't – I think you're allowed to rename and adopt a child. I think you are anyway, depending on how old they are. Maybe not. You can certainly give them a new second name. I'm certain of that anyway.

So for people who don't know you can certainly give them a new second name i'm certain i'm certain of that anyway um so for people who don't know you and you're lying ways um how did you sort of get in involved in the whole youtube nonsense out there in japan i came over to teach in japan uh like you once intended to do right p you hope to come over here uh fucked it absolutely fucked my entrance uh interview to the jet program the teaching english as a foreign language in in japan absolutely fucked it salt in the wound i actually got on it somehow i don't know how i think i i tell people it's because i'm brilliant but the real reason and this is true is i applied in 2012 and of course in 2012 that was the year after the fukushima nuclear disaster.

I think four people applied for the position of teaching in Japan. So they're like, oh, thank God someone still applied, this Chris guy. Anyway, I got over here and I taught English for three years in North Japan in a beautiful little place called Yamagata. It's a really rural place that is the kind of butt of all jokes in Japan for being kind of backwater. What's the equivalent in the UK? It's my hometown. It's my hometown, Chris.

It is. You'd have loved it. And of course you've come over to visit the region as well. It's probably the most, I have been on radio there, and it's the most still, quiet place in Japan I've ever been, really. Like during the day, on a nice sunny day there's just no one in the middle of the town it's really really bizarre isn't it chris it is is but what i'm amazed is when you when we were there you stayed this little nice traditional japanese inn

we stayed i think for three or four nights and while we were there the mayor of st petersburg was staying a few rooms down the corridor. So many dignitaries. Pete Donaldson from Absolute Radio and the Luke and Pete Show and the mayor of St. Petersburg doing some deals. And what amazed me is even though you were there like three or four days, you somehow got into the local radio station and did a segment with the local DJ. Did a bit of broadcasting. It's pretty impressive.

It's amazing what you did in that short space of time i do i do when i go when i do go abroad i do try and squeeze in as much as i can in like two or three days oh yeah but i love i love community led sort of radio stations sometimes i've got this internet radio in the in the kitchen and you can just load up any radio station going and some of my favorites the japanese ones where you know japanese music is as you're well aware chris it's very derivative they don't they're not really adding much to the party certainly on the popular music side of things and everything's just well everything's just well kind of considered and well um looked at and they just reproduce it and and they really sit within the confines of that particular genre and they don't experiment or bring anything new to the party but it is very very well um it is very well kind of done the

music if if if a little uh derivative or not derivative in fact just a carbon copy of what what everyone else does um but uh yeah i love listening to community stations because they'll just go hours and hours without speaking bloody hell hell. Oh, no. Drop me a microphone. You've broken the Luke and Pete show. I got so excited. I knocked my microphone on my floor. Oh, yeah, yeah. I got so excited about Japanese music. So, yeah, I love listening to radio stations

like in the middle of nowhere from different parts of the world. There's something very atmospheric about it. I just like the idea they were like fishermen out in the Sea of Japan that morning listening to this guy from Hartlepool just randomly on the local radio never never before done in north japan you're probably the first person from hartlepool to appear on local japanese radio and that is a worthy cv cv worthy i imagine so definitely continuing my kind of story i guess, after I finished teaching for three years in Yamagata,

in that town, I became a YouTuber. And I'd been doing YouTube for three years at that point. It was sort of a hobby. Started making videos in my bedroom. Made like one video a month just sort of talking about my experiences, the people I met along the way, the culture, documenting it. And it kind of took off. I always joked during those years when I was teaching that if the YouTube channel took off, then I'd do it full time. And I think the target I set was to get 100,000 subscribers. I got there somehow after about two and a half years,

hit 100,000. I was like, right, well, I've got to bloody do it now, haven't I? well i've got to bloody do it now haven't i um and i've been full-time youtubing since 2015 2016 and um now the channel's on the cusp of two million subscribers so it's been quite a weird journey and there's been lots of crazy things that have happened along the way um but it's it's pretty cool to be a youtuber in japan i think i take it for granted given i'm such a grumpy cynical sarcastic Brit. How do you sort of like, because obviously Japanese creators find it quite difficult to sort of work within the confines of a very administration-heavy society. How do you sort of like, I mean, how do you even report taxes?

How do you kind of like sort of go, I'm a YouTuber, and you presumably have to explain what a YouTuber is. I imagine there's a lot of red tape involved in being a YouTuber in 2020 in Japan. Tax? What tax? I don't pay tax. I'm Lewis Hamilton, baby. I do pay tax. I want to put that out there now.

Lots of tax. Tax rate in Japan is higher than the UK. You know how lucky the UK has it. I don't know what it is, but it's higher. I know that much. You know what? It's a funny old thing YouTube has finally become an acceptable job to have in Japan Japan has always been a little bit behind on the social media front um they say it's like three years behind like the US and the UK uh like in the UK and the US, we've been using YouTubers

and social media influencers for years now to promote products and things. And so it's kind of seen as a serious thing. But in Japan, it took a lot longer to take off. But now there are lots of prominent Japanese YouTubers. They're everywhere, and they make a good living from it. And in fact, being a YouTuber is one of the top three most wanted professions for school kids in Japan because they see it as a pathway out of the sort of drudgery of everyday life office work, which

is what most people end up doing, the old salaryman job, right? It's seen as a way to freedom, a path to freedom and excitement. So it has been accepted. And now when I tell people I'm a YouTuber, they're just interested. All they ever ask is, oh, do you make money? How much money do you make? Is there money? Can you make money from it? Money? Can I have money?

Give me some money. The only thing they care about. It's a bit depressing. The way that YouTubers are viewed is always through the prism of how much money they're bringing in because the norms, the normies are just really surprised that people can make money out of it. No, it isn't. You look at someone like PewDiePie or KSIsi and you can talk about the relative merits of those two

particular youtube channels but um they never talk about the content they never talk about what they do they only talk about uh like you know the newspaper articles about youtube is that only only concerned with how much money is being made because people can't believe that people who do unboxing videos or tech reviews or talk about other YouTubers or play video games, they're so surprised that people can get away, so to speak, with making a load of money. But they're content providers. They sell adverts. And it really annoys me that people are surprised that,

I mean, even to a lesser extent, podcasters make money out of podcasts. You make money? You're a vessel. It's small amount, aren't you? You're a vessel for adverts, aren't you? That's modern life. That's how it all works. A vessel for adverts.

That's depressing. That's all TV channels ever were. You've made me re-evaluate everything I am, everything I've become. I'm right. You're just a vessel. I'm a vessel of shit. You're right, though. It is annoying.

And the interesting thing is when I look at all the YouTubers that I'm friends with and that I know, none of them started with the idea of making money. And I'm a personal example of that. I never expected to make money out of it. I just love making videos. I always wanted to be like a film director, but I threw the dream in the bin because I realized how difficult it was, but then resurrected it when I was in Japan. Uh, I saw YouTube was coming up and coming and I thought, Oh, maybe if I make some videos, edit them nicely, put them up, people watch it, things will happen, but I'll have fun above all. And it wasn't until like two years of doing that, of making videos, I must've made about 20 videos over a two year period that I did, you know, get my first paycheck. It was like, I don't know, nothing less than a hundred dollars or something. Um, and it wasn't until about three or four years in that I was making the sort of

same money I was making from my teacher's salary. Right. Um, so it's a long path to making money on YouTube. And if you, the key is to not have any expectations to do it because you like doing YouTube because you're enjoy the content. You're talking about something you're passionate about, right? Um, so don't have expectations if you want to be a YouTuber, otherwise you'll, you know, lose motivation if you just think about money and subscribers. But if you love what you do and you put the effort in, hopefully it'll take off. But people like PewDiePie and these other creators like KSI make we're talking you know 250 000 pounds a month someone like pewdiepie probably more than that um they are a very rare case very much like small minority um that we all

aspire to be definitely is there is there a situation where like um creators who are a little bit more focused on on hits and focused on money, they find themselves like doing things that they know will bang, know will go off and stuff. And they just end up getting burnt out because they're not really interested in the work that they're doing. Well, yeah, exactly. Those React channels, there's a lot of React channels. That was the big thing a few years ago,

just churning out these tedious, crappy React videos of people reacting to the most mundane things. I'm glad that phase has died out, although it seems to have come back. In the last month, right, for some reason, about 20 Japanese YouTubers, never happened before, have been reacting to Abroad in Japan videos, so much so that the Japan Times, the largest foreign-aimed newspaper in Japan, did an article about it the other day um yeah they seem to have come back bloody react videos just reacting to your how

do you review with the japanese youtubers the things you say about their country they're all relatively favorable the two videos they've reacted to are videos i've made called um why i avoid japanese tv basically a video talking about why it's rubbish and it's not as fun as you think it is. Because I think most people, certainly in the UK, we think, oh, Japanese TV, it must be amazing.

Takeshi's Castle. Yes, but it's not. It's very bad. Again, it's just more reaction videos, isn't it? It's just people reacting to, people in the studio, a little panel, reacting to video feeds effectively.

It's just more of that really i i saw while i was watching when these um japanese youtubers react to me there was a scene of me uh in the video uh reacting to something in my video and then this japanese youtuber was reacting to my video and it was like inception four levels of reaction and i just thought oh god what have the world come to but yeah i don't know it's a funny old business but i i feel very lucky to do it i just hate the phrase social media influencer if anybody kills me that i throw them out of a window because well do you do you ever um do you ever get sent anything to to to talk about to post what uh to influence you mean to influence

i mean i mean presumably the whole the whole gig of being an influencer is that you get sent a load of shit and then you put it on your channel uh and you don't get paid for it but you go i've got playstation cool i'm approached quite a lot by companies to promote like candy boxes and skillshare and audible and things yes of course you know it's fine but i i don't do it i actually I'm lucky that I don't need to do it because I've got, the channel's big enough now that I don't really need to do sponsorships unless it's something very specific to my audience. Like I'm doing one in a couple of weeks about a Japanese language school

that I worked with. Sorry, not a Japanese language school, a website that helps you choose your Japanese language school in Japan, a really good website. And I'm shouting that out, which is cool, I think think because they've got an online course or something but like for the most part i don't do it um and i'm lucky because i also have patreon like i think you do with the football ramble right yeah well patreon it's it's it's it kind of um pitching's been been great and continues to be great simply because you know certainly in the year like this where just the

advertising market's gone up and down and and and mainly down because for obvious reasons you know certainly in a year like this where just the advertising market's gone up and down and and mainly down because for obvious reasons you know people people and all kinds of kinds of bother but um it just makes sure that you can provide content because otherwise we just you know we can't keep the lights on we've got an office we've got a studio that needs to be paid for us it's it's not as um podcasting certainly is not as lucrative as as youtubing but um it's uh it it may get there one day but but not right now yeah yeah and i think it's always important to remind i mean i don't bring up my page on that much of my videos but it's there and if i didn't have it then i don't know if i'd be here now because i launched it like three or four years ago at a difficult time

um and it ultimately worked out and it And it's nice to have more than the financial backing of people. It's nice to have people that believe in you, right? That feeling of, oh, wow, people believe in the things that I do, the videos I make and the things I show them that they want to support the channel. And that is almost, that's more rewarding in some respects than the money, but the money is good and the money is very useful for producing content. Where are you right now? What are you doing? What's a day in the life of Chris the money but the money is good and the money is very useful for producing content where are your where are you right now uh what are you doing what's it what's a day in the life of chris like on a um we're actually recording this on a tuesday what did you do today

it was just been a pretty lackluster day i don't want to paint a picture that youtubers are lazy because we're not um i i work hard but today was a bad day i didn't sleep for whatever reason one of those nights you can't sleep i think i drank too much coffee before i went to bed and i didn't drink too much coffee chris has a terrible addiction to the hot hot coffee in a can nonsense that is available it's ubiquitous um every street on japan has three or four little sort of pop uh vending machines and you also get hot coffee in there as well and chris is addicted to it all it's insanity the amount of coffee chris drinks he drinks i'm i'm when we record a brunch pan the podcast i am up in the morning so i'm you know it's nine o'clock in the morning ten o'clock

in the morning for me uh but it's around about you know seven in the evening. So, you know, it's nine o'clock in the morning, 10 o'clock in the morning for me. But it's around about, you know, seven in the evening for him. And he's still slamming the coffee back like it's nobody's business. He drinks coffee like I drink coffee when I'm in Japan. I'm jet lagged. That's my excuse. Jet lagged. Jet lagged. If I didn't have coffee, the Abroad Japan podcast,

the Abroad Japan channel wouldn't work. It'd just be me going. Anyway, I went to bed at like, I went to bed at midnight The Abroad Japan podcast, the Abroad Japan channel. Would not work. Wouldn't work. It'd just be me going, eh. Anyway, I went to bed at midnight and couldn't sleep until about 5 a.m. Coffee. Clearly coffee. It's coffee. And it was coffee that resurrected me from the dead pit.

That, I've discovered a new way to wake up. What you've got to do is put your headset on, put your headphones in, AirPods, whatever, play Fire starter by the prodigy drink a coffee and do 30 press-ups and the kick from that will wake you up for the next three hours do it for the next three hours that's all you're getting that's it that's your full day three hours you gotta do it again you gotta do it again you gotta do it again right repeat rinse and repeat and then after this podcast it's uh yeah it's gonna be 8 9 p.m but i've still got to edit some videos and actually make something of the day um and i'm editing a six-part series where i traveled around uh central japan to see mount fuji something i've consistently failed to

do for eight years because the glorious beautiful iconic mountain is always in the clouds and you never see it so i went on like a six-day expedition just to go and get a glimpse of it so I've got to edit that it's my life very weird well you can you can check that out on the Abroad in Japan YouTube channel

we're going to take a short break if that's alright with you Chris and we'll be back with a couple of your emails because if you didn't do any on Monday

I got very confused and flustered because Mark was in the studio but yeah we'll be back in a second this week on stakhanov one directions liam pain was in the studio talking to jack made's happy hour about life as a global pop star with untold stories about his time on the x-factor life in the world's biggest boy band, and going solo, this one is not to miss. I was part of this massive machine

and I knew my part in the machine very well. So I knew what I was doing every day. But then when that machine falls away and you're in the world and the world's just happening around, like, where do you fit? You can catch the full episode on Spotify. If that doesn't tickle your fancy,

on this week's Football Ramble Presents, Kate and Jim sat down with former Chelsea, Juventus and England striker and football legend, Enia Luko, to discuss her storied career and her autobiography, They Don't Teach This. Whether it's racism, whether it's bullying, whether it's sexism, often these behaviours are silent.

They're not always something that's said. It's a feeling, it's a set of behaviors by a group of people towards you that makes you feel incredibly isolated you can hear more from any aluco with football ramble presents on apple podcast spotify or wherever you get your podcasts all that and more at stakhanov And we're back. This is the Luke and Pete show. I'm joined. I am Pete Donaldson and I'm joined by Mr.

Chris Broad. You know, I made you enjoy that little, little, little ad break. It's good. It was the messaging, the perfect time to have a bit more coffee.

Finish the coffee. Disgusting. You really are disgusting. Oh yeah. And, and, and I need to make it very clear that Chris probably sounds quite healthy and youthful, but his food intake is mainly fried chicken

and his liquid intake is mainly coffee. So he's not going to live to 40. He's not going to live to my ripe old age. It's not my fault that bloody fried chicken is so cheap and ubiquitous, Pete. People think, oh, Japan, sushi, isn't it? Sushi and ramen, a land of healthy, wonderful cuisine, it's not my fault that bloody fried chicken is so cheap and ubiquitous Pete people think oh Japan sushi innit sushi and ramen

a land of healthy wonderful cuisine but really it's just fried chicken because every convenience store in Japan it's all karaage delicious

for one pound for one pound you can get a piece of fried chicken from any convenience store in the country that is better quality than KFC

imagine that how dangerous that is it's up there it's certainly up there. It's certainly up there, yeah. I go to Japan generally about half a stone lighter and come back a stone and a half heavier. It might die out there. It's disgusting, really.

It is. From what I've seen. So we've been talking recently about a couple of things. People working in the Amazon Fulfillment Centers. We've been talking about also people who had little scams going when they had like Saturday jobs or jobs when they were a little bit younger. Did you have any scams going when you used to work? I don't know where you used to work when you were a kid,

but when you had a little Saturday job, did you have any sort of scams going where you used to get free booze or food or money? I mean, I've done things that i can't speak about because probably get arrested but what have i done what did you used to do back in the day what was your what was your saturday job my saturday job was working at a castle where i waited on reputable and incredible figures like Elon Musk and Prince Andrew. I met them both. Your favourite people. Both sides of the same coin in many ways.

I gave Elon Musk his birthday cake and I gave Prince Andrew a glass of champagne. I preferred Elon Musk to Prince Andrew. Prince Andrew didn't even say thank you. You know, you think, where's his manners? Bloody royal. Bloody royals. So you didn't even say thank you you know, you think, where's his manners bloody royal bloody royals

but so you didn't steal any champagne and cake that's the main thing, Ian has got in touch hey chaps, I'm just having a binge and catching up on a few episodes of Luke and Pete show on the subject of scheming and playing the system, I used to work in a well known video rental outlet, let's face it that's going to be blockbuster isn't it

who frequently have bundle offers that would enable renters to have a film a two litre bottle of drink and a bag of popcorn or chocolate for a discounted price the baffling thing for me was the amount of people who would refuse the offer when buying two of the three items and even though it would cost them less money to add the third item in those cases i would always scan the offer charge the customer the discounted price and walk away each shift with a load of drink and sweet snacks. Ian, that's a great little hustle, I would say. You're getting free popcorn. You're getting free Coca-Cola.

But it is actually white-collar fraud. And that is why blockbusters went under amongst other things. I know, right? It was Ian's fault. All that butter kiss that he stole. Oh, wow. Have you ever done anything like that? Theft?

Not a bad little hustle. Not really. I used to work in a sandwich factory in Leicester. Did you? And you used to spend a bit, yeah, I spent a long time there, to be honest. My speciality was making the, I think it was for Ginsters or one of the sandwich brands. My speciality was making the egg mayonnaise. So you'd get a big tray full of eggs, like the most amount of eggs you've ever seen,

and you'd mix it with the most amount of mayonnaise you've ever seen and the most amount of pepper and salt you've ever seen, and you'd mix it together in this massive mincing machine and then cover it in cellophane and put it onto the production line and they would scoop out the um the the egg mayonnaise onto a onto a sandwich and and bob's your uncle there's a ginsters uh you know mayonnaise sandwich i mean i used to eat ginsters a fair bit um i haven't made it to japan yet but when i lived in the uk i had ginsters and i just to think that one of them could have been prepared by the great pete donaldson really puts

a smile on my face you make an egg sandwich but i did used to if it smelled i always get told off because used to wear too much um aftershave he said can you dial down the aftershave please because it will taint the um taste of the sandwiches because sensible uh and uh i also um used to spend a lot of time in the frozen room eating sausages. I used to get strips of bacon and sausages and stuff. They weren't frozen sausages. I do have a little bit of past history in eating frozen sausages when I was a kid, just absolutely chomping them from the freezer like little flesh-colored ice pops,

meaty ice pops. But no, I used to just eat a lot of pre-smoked uh and pre-cooked sausages in the in the thing was so delicious it sounds pretty good yeah well i mean well speaking speaking of where you are currently resident and doing youtube from chris um the sanduichis in japan is is a they've got a long history history of being these amazing culinary creations that we don't get to see out in the West. You go to any kind of 7-Eleven or Family Mart kind of off-lice and soft-door, you will buy some almost Michelin star level sandwiches, and they're called sanduichis, and they're always very delicious.

Am I right? I think you overestimate the brilliance of Japanese sandwiches and the shortened way of saying it is sando and often you see it in English written as baked sand because that's baked sandwich but we have

egg mayonnaise which is nice but there's some wacky flavors like there's noodles isn't there um you have noodles noodles and sandwich yeah noodles and sandwich doesn't it kind of works sometimes um strawberries and cream in a sandwich that's yes sandwich nice yeah kiwis and cream it's it's yes it's and the and the cream is like this white, Tippex white bleached monstrosity as well. But they do, but yeah, like Japan's weirdly known as being a bit of a, they really know how to do their sandwiches.

And they also cut off the crusts. They cut the crusts off, yeah. Because people don't like them as much. Yeah, it's an interesting move, that. Perfect, if you don't like your crusts, get a Japan. We've got another email. This was an interesting one, actually. Jack French in South London.

He says, hi, chaps. With the mention of Star Trek on Thursday's episode, Luke's partner really, really loves Star Trek and banishes Luke from the front room while she watches, I think it's Next Generation. I want to get in touch regarding the odd set of circumstances which saw the Star Trek Voyager series setting off a direct chain of events,

which ended in Barack Obama's election as the 44th US president. That's a big shout, I have to tell you. Let me take you in a bit of a time tunnel. The year is 1997. Now in its fourth season, Star Trek Voyager's popularity is beginning to dwindle. In an attempt to boost ratings, the show's producers decide to add a new, rather attractive character into the show. Enter Jerry Ryan, the actress who played said character, the Borg baddie named Seven of Nine. I seem to recall my dad was a big fan.

I seem to recall Seven of Nine in a swimsuit. Jerry Ryan in a swimsuit rather than a Borg in a swimsuit. That would in a swimsuit rather than a bog in a swimsuit. That would be a bit weird. On my dad's desktop. My dad had it for a very long time, a good line in Windows 95 desktops of sexy ladies. But the actress was an instant success on Star Trek Voyager and became a performance fixture in the series.

Now, this is where things get fruity. Frequent filming requirements meant that Jerry Ryan was often away from her husband, Jack Ryan. This added untold pressure to their marriage, which, alongside other factors which we'll get to later on, ended in divorce in 1999. Skip forward five years to 2004, where Jack Ryan became the Republican nominee

for an open Senate seat in the U.S. state of Illinois. During his campaign, however, details of the divorce between Jack Ryan and his former Star Trek ex-wife became public. These details painted the would-be senator in a bad light. Details about his sex life that were rather too saucy for such high office. The scandal forced Ryan to drop out of the Senate race, leaving the Democratic nominee an open net to slam home the win. That nominee was none other than dog dad, playlist maker, and 44th president of the United States of America, Barack Obama. The rest, they say, is history. Love to the family and keep up the good work.

Jack French in South London. Jack, fantastic. I mean, you know. Connected the dots. I mean, just fantastic stuff. It really is. I mean, just fantastic stuff. It really is.

I like the idea that a sexy actress on Star Trek Voyager and a love of Stuart Donaldson kind of opened the door for Barack Obama, one of the better presidents in recent years, let's say. I would like to see a sort of reverse analysis of Boris Johnson and a series of processes and events in human history that led to him becoming the Prime Minister. Yeah, it's Brexit, mate. It's Brexit. I'll tell you now, it's Brexit. It's just Brexit. That's a lot easier.

Well, that's cool, though. It's just men like my dad voting for Brexit. It's kind of a situation. That is interesting, though, isn't it? I wonder if that hadn't happened, would Barack Obama have made it to be the president? Probably. I think he'd probably

rise to I think the cream rises to the top in many disciplines. He'd certainly be a very public member of the Senate you would imagine. Anyway, this has been lovely. Chris, thank you very much for joining us for the Luke and Pete show. Where can people find you on Twitter and the socials and YouTube and stuff?

Just tap your legs together twice, tap your feet together twice, and type in Abroad in Japan, and it'll appear somewhere. It'll appear somewhere. Twitter. YouTube's the place to be, though. Go on there. I'm on a couple of videos. Yeah, and that's a good reason to watch it.

If you don't like me, which is fair enough, I don't like me, but you might like Pete Donaldson. And he's in at least, you're in at least four, five episodes? Yeah, three or four, maybe. You've been watched by at least four million people, I think. So, well done. And you're in the top video about a motherfucker. If you're one of my police police officers i'll be fine um

so check him out and also why don't you listen to another staccato podcast by the name of abroad in japan the podcast uh just search for us wherever you get your uh itunes wherever your itunes where you get your podcasts on the itunes or your spotify's or wherever and we'll see you over there and we will release every single sunday Thursday very much like the Linton Peachtree almost but Chris thank you for joining us have a great

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