The Luke and Pete Show - Out in space on a big string

Episode Date: May 11, 2020

On today’s show Luke and Pete are reflecting on the amazing life of Little Richard, as well as discussing a curious floating hotel and the possibility of a huge tube which could take us from Earth t...o outer space. Strap in for a heady mix of rock and roll and Luke’s quantum physics.Also coming up, Pete’s being confronted for wandering the streets with bananas in his pockets and there’s the question - how much would you pay to go for a pint with Matthew McConaughey in a British pub?Thanks to everyone who’s been getting in touch recently, we love reading your emails! Send us one if you fancy, it’s hello@lukeandpeteshow.com! ***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or your preferred podcast provider. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 1, 2, 3, 5, 5, 5, 6 From that Offspring song It is the Luke and Pete show It is a Monday The weather outside is chilly But kind of sunny It doesn't really know what it's doing For crying out loud Sort yourselves out It's May It sunny. It doesn't really know what it's doing. For crying out loud, sort yourselves out.
Starting point is 00:00:26 It's May. It is May. It doesn't feel like May because we're in lockdown, but it's May. How are you doing, Luke? Pretty good, thanks. May I be the first person to point out you missed out the number four in that intro. Yeah. But it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:00:41 It doesn't matter because I don't speak any other languages anyway, so who cares? No, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because I don't speak any other languages anyway. So who cares? No, it doesn't matter. I'm currently in my little vocal booth and I've got what can only be described as a little sloth kind of plush toy in there with me. And I feel when I get things wrong, he's judging me in some small way. Because sloths kind of have disappointed eyes. Is that because you can't see me? So that's the next best thing.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Exactly, yeah. I just like to sort of project into the eyes of someone else, which in this case appears to be a sloth. So, how's your week been, Lukey?
Starting point is 00:01:14 Maybe we just did a ramble and you had a little chat with Mark Pougas for the pitch and over on Football Ramble talking about Euro 96. Was it nice to go back
Starting point is 00:01:23 to the summer of 96 when, you know, things seemed a little easier? You just told everyone how my week's been already. I don't even need to answer that. I described the parameters in which your week has been inhabited, but I don't know. I need some flesh on the bones. I no longer have any emotions.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Right, yeah. Lockdown's stolen it. Everything's the same. You've stolen it, yeah. Lockdown stolen it. Everything's the same. You've stolen it. Yeah. You've stolen it. It's stolen from your heart.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Yeah, it's only Monday. It's been fine. The weather did take a... I mean, this is very boring stuff so early on, but the weather did take a bit of a turn yesterday. It was crazy. I went out running in the morning, and it was so warm I had to stop. Literally two hours after I got home, it was so cold in the house,
Starting point is 00:02:06 I had to put another jumper on. It's been crazy. Yeah, I considered putting the heating on yesterday. And there's been snow up in Scotland. There's been snow in New England, family reporting snow up in New England. So there's all sorts of weather happening. Whatever your opinion of it is, that's your own. That's your own doings. But there's been weather of weather happening. Whatever your opinion of it is, that's your own. That's your own doings.
Starting point is 00:02:25 But there's been weather happening without question. But, yeah, nothing much else happening around these parts, mate. I was very, very sad. Obviously not unexpected and something that had been in the post for a while. But nevertheless sad to see that the great little Richard passed away over the weekend, aged 87. I mean, I'm not an expert. I mean, I'm an enthusiast more than an expert when it comes to music and particularly music of this type.
Starting point is 00:02:55 But I'm fascinated by it. I love the original kind of first knockings of rock and roll music and what it means to everyone now, even today. And what a life little Richard had. I mean, my goodness me. I mean, growing up black and gay in Macon, Georgia in the 30s and 40s, and then starting to find his sound and starting to do his thing in the most outrageous, kind of over-the-top, brilliant way possible. It must have been an incredible incredible
Starting point is 00:03:26 experience and also a very difficult experience but what he was able to do to inform popular music over the generations is amazing and i i personally again like i say enthusiast not an expert but i personally would have him above any other original rock and roll artist chiefly because he's writing his own songs he's doing it himself and he's doing it in an amazing showman kind of way. Of all the tributes that came out over the weekend about his death, one particularly stuck with me, which I thought was a really good way of putting it, and it came in the shape of Brian Johnson of ACDC, obviously the guy who succeeded Bon Scott
Starting point is 00:04:08 as the lead singer of ACDC. And he said, it was a Saturday, it was one o'clock and it was a sunny day, speaking about seeing Little Richard on the TV for the first time. And this woman was going, and now from America we have Little Richard. And it was this little guy with his fucking ridiculous hairdo and teeth. He was prettier than a woman.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And it was tutti frutti. What the fuck I said to myself, there was nothing. And then there was this. And that key bit at the end, there was nothing. And then there was this is the one that hits home for me most because there was nothing to base it on Pete. There's absolutely nothing to base it on. If you, if you, if you, I mean, you've interviewed many,
Starting point is 00:04:44 many musical artists. If you speak to them, one of, I mean, you've interviewed many, many musical artists. If you speak to them, one of the questions I'm sure you'll ask them will be, you know, what music do you like? Well, Little Richard had nothing to base it on. He just did it.
Starting point is 00:04:53 And to me, that is genius. And I think the world is a worse place without him in it. There's loads of stuff that I obviously won't go into because I'll bore people to death. But if you've got any interest at all in popular music and particularly rock and roll music, check out the story of Little Richard. Unbelievable. And, you know, this is a guy who, you know, the Beatles loved.
Starting point is 00:05:12 You know, everyone loved him. He was there before all of them doing it. They all lived in the house that he built. And, you know, rest in power, Little Richard. What a legend. A fine tribute. There was a great clip of somebody, I think it was from an old Bernie Mac TV show where he's just sort of looking at the camera going, yeah, I'm watching you.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I'm watching you. I've been watching you for a while. And it was basically Little Richard ascending to heaven and finding John Lennon and Elvis and people like that going, all right, yeah, all right. Yeah, I've been listening to what you've been doing. Little Richard's one of those kind of characters that, for some reason, when I heard he died, I was like, did he not?
Starting point is 00:05:47 He's just one of those characters who you haven't heard do much in the last few years, so you sort of assumed they'd already passed, weirdly. I don't know why that is. He was withdrawn from public love. I think he was very ill. I mean, he died at 87. I think he had a stroke and he was unable to walk. And I think if you're, obviously didn't know the guy,
Starting point is 00:06:06 although Danny Kelly, one of my friends and colleagues, did have lunch with him once and said he was absolutely ridiculous, but in a brilliant way. Danny Kelly posted a picture on Twitter of him and little Richard. It was over some dinner or lunch or something. I guess when Danny was in his capacity as the editor of a music magazine. Looking even littler, you would imagine yeah yeah absolutely and he said um someone replied to his tweet saying what was little richard like and he started he was amazing he said what was his ego
Starting point is 00:06:33 like he said absolutely gigantic but in a really fun way so i mean i don't i'm one of those people pete i was just going to answer your original point i think when you're a showman and you're a performer and you get to the stage in your life and as they say age doesn't come by itself does it so when you get to the age that you can't really do anything anymore you probably have a bit of pride you don't want to be seen out doing stuff so that's that's partly to do with that but the other thing i was going to say was that um i want my um my legendary artists my legendary songwriters singers actors whatever i don't mean this to endorse irresponsible behavior but i want them to be ridiculous i want them to be extreme i subscribe
Starting point is 00:07:10 to the bill hicks kind of um school of thought when he talks about new kids on the block and he says oh you know i hate new kids on the block and everyone says they're a they're a great role model to kids are they is that what i mean is that what an artist should be i should be artists they should be flawed they should be out there doing these controversial things that's the whole point of them so the rest of us normal people get on with our lives normally we don't want them doing it as well so little rich had an amazing life trust me on that i mean there's all sorts of behavior that you probably wouldn't endorse but that's part of him right he's a genius but and also like you these sort of um these are serial characters and
Starting point is 00:07:46 you sort of look at actors as well how many times do you see um like christian bale doing a fucking presser in a dirty old hotel in uh in the center in central london with the uh with the big picture of the poster of the film that he's advertising how many times do you see like these uh like brad pitt doing those presses angelina jolie you just never see these kind of like big like movie stars or musical artists boy rarely give interviews like they're magical simply because they're just inaccessible and i want my pop stars and i want my rock stars to be inaccessible i don't want the twitter i don't want the instagram i don't want the Twitter. I don't want the Instagram. I don't want the, you know, I interviewed middling indie artists and they were all very, very lovely. But you do kind of think, do you want that from your artist?
Starting point is 00:08:34 It makes me kind of warm to them slightly more because I had a personal connection with that person. But it also kind of takes me out of their music a little bit because it's like, it's just a fucking job really. I completely agree. I think David bowie is a great case in point because my mum introduced me to david bowie when i was a kid we have tapes in the car and and she would talk to me about how great he was and and how much she loved him and and i would look at pictures of him on the back of her big vinyl records or or see pictures of him perhaps in the newspaper every so often or a magazine or whatever and he honestly looked like it was from a different planet now i i it's impossible to
Starting point is 00:09:10 overstate how far away metaphorically someone like david bowie felt from me as a kid growing up in gospel and like a terraced house having the most normal existence you can think of and as you rightly say that's a that's a important point like you don't want to see the illusion broken you don't want to see david bowie out buying a pot of milk you don't necessarily want to know what he thinks about the latest politics particularly not the phases he went through about what he thinks about you know you don't need to make a contribution yeah you don't need to make a contribution on everything like someone once said to me which is a ironic thing to say to me i guess because i never shut up about anything you don't need to join every conversation you're invited to you don't have to join every debate you can stay away from it if
Starting point is 00:09:52 you want to and and someone like bowie was amazing at maintaining this mystique and um even though he was quite pioneering with things like the internet wasn't he and the pervading effect it would have on everyone's lives he was way ahead of the game there but leo richard was just someone who it's just from another planet there's a great story about one of his contemporaries jerry lee lewis who uh is one of my favorites as well of that generation amazing performer um and showman and um his big thing was uh was putting his foot up on the piano he's just this amazing pianist if you go and listen to jerry lewis live at the star club in hamburg i think he came out about 68 something like that was putting his foot up on the piano. He's just this amazing pianist. If you go and listen to Jerry Lee Lewis live at the Star Club in Hamburg,
Starting point is 00:10:26 I think he came out in about 68, something like that. I might have told this story before, but people will have to forgive me. And his big thing was he put his foot up on the piano, right? And Jerry Lee Lewis, and that was like his little party trick,
Starting point is 00:10:37 and everyone loved it, and everyone lived for it. And Jerry Lee Lewis is very much still alive. I think he'd be in his 80s as well, 84 years old now, still was up until very recently still performing. So anyway, a few years ago, he's out there doing his piano bit
Starting point is 00:10:52 and everyone's like, oh, how's he going to do his foot thing? I mean, he's like eight years old and no word of a lie, a roadie walks onto the stage, picks his leg up for him and puts it on the piano. Now that is showmanship man
Starting point is 00:11:05 that is how they do it in that generation so funny yeah really good but anyway i was sad to see little richard die obviously you know everyone gets old and dies sadly but what a contribution he made and some of the lyrics of some of his songs to be put out back in those days uh was pretty out there i mean he used to get up to all sorts of business there was talk of him um paying paying people to to have sex in the back of his car while he sat there watching him and stuff all sorts going on man i'm telling you mate i'd get you will have seen everything we talk about the excesses of like you know your mercuries and your elton johns and stuff like that but you say oh god look they've they've fucked everything they've seen everything they've eaten everything everything yeah that's why they go mad because they've done, they've fucked everything. They've seen everything. They've eaten everything. That's why aristocrats are mental, right?
Starting point is 00:11:46 They've consumed everything. Yeah, that's why they go mad because they've done everything. They've been everywhere and they're just fucking bored and they just want the sensation, the first sensation of something new. That's why they all go mad. Why have you gone mad? Well, I'm starting there and then getting more normal as I get older. I think that's the right way to do it, personally.
Starting point is 00:12:04 uh well i'm starting there and then getting more normal as i get older i think that's the right way personally i think when you get if we reconvene say mid-50s i haven't seen you for a while i think yeah i fully expect you to be like a quite domesticated father of three uh doting husband in your i'll turn up at your house and your wife will be or just go and call pete and you'll be in the greenhouse or something but call Pete and you'll be in the greenhouse or something. But crucially, you'll be in the greenhouse gardening, not doing what I'd expect you to be doing in a greenhouse if it happened now. What do you expect me to be doing in a greenhouse if it happened now?
Starting point is 00:12:35 Top off, wrestling figures. Warm. It'd be warm in there, yeah. It'd be warm in there, so your top should be off. Exactly. Anyway, Peter, what have you been doing so far this week? Not a lot, really. I've been promising this little story for a couple of weeks now,
Starting point is 00:12:52 and it's at the top of my notes. Yes, I have notes. And I am a little bit obsessed with it, and I think that we should, if we ever, in the aforementioned 15 years' time, 20 years' time, ever make any money by doing the Luca Piccio, we should buy this thing. The Four Seasons Barrier Reef Resort in Queensland,
Starting point is 00:13:18 a.k.a. the Hotel Hyagumgang, a floating hotel that is now in North Korea at Mount Kumgang. What? How do people know where to find it? It was the brainchild of a developer, Doug Tarser and his son, Peter. It was constructed in Singapore and opened in 1988 as the John Brewer Floating Hotel. And it was positioned on the John Brewer Reef
Starting point is 00:13:41 in the Great Barrier Reef off the coast of Townsville, Queensland, Australia. Seven-story hotel, 200 rooms, nightclub bars, restaurants, a helipad, a tennis court. But as all good ideas, it rapidly fell into disrepair and financial mismanagement. It was off the coast of Australia, It was off the coast of Australia.
Starting point is 00:14:12 And then it was floated out to Ho Chi Minh City in Vietnam in 1989, operating as a Saigon floating hotel in the Saigon River. And it was known as the floater. It was a popular kind of nightclub kind of place. Can it be piloted like a cruise ship, Pete, or something? Yes, I think a ship has to come and sort of tug it along. Oh, right. But it's just this massive, weird, floating hotel.
Starting point is 00:14:32 I bet there's plenty of tugging goes on in that place. It just sounds so weird and filthy and 80s. It's like a weird 80s dream. But in 1997, it was bought by North Korea and taken to the Mount Kumgang tourist region, which opened in 1998 on the border between North and South Korea. Tourists to the resort were suspended in 2008 after a South Korean woman was shot dead by a North Korean soldier. Oh, good. And then in 2018, the South Korean president, Moon Jae-in, agreed to open the resort. But I just find it fascinating that this kind of like building has been sold and sold and it's never really succeeded.
Starting point is 00:15:15 But because it's so big, what do you do with a big floating hotel? Kim Jong-un visited the site last year and said it's pretty it's pretty backwards in in terms of architecture a little bit rich uh it's yeah it's not it's not uh it's not properly cared for so there uh it should be removed and rebuilt to meet north koreans own sentiment and aesthetic taste uh due to the coronavirus pandemic pandemic uh the north korean government have uh have decided that they're going to postpone redevelopment of the site because of, well, just the fact that a floating hotel is not ideal. It's basically a cruise ship, isn't it? And you know what they're like with the old COVID.
Starting point is 00:15:51 So, yeah, I would just love to know. I'd love to have a walk around this weird floating hotel, this unloved, mothballed floating hotel. And far better for me to side with um the north korean regime on this but it does look absolutely shit so it looks like a fucking factory that's what it looks like and so it wasn't at all as i imagined it for some reason i imagined it being quite pleasant we've maybe made of having some kind of grass in it on it or it looks it looks absolutely insane like whose idea was it some some mad old millionaire or something yeah an australian developer doug tarsa and his son peter um right but like just imagine like how long it would take
Starting point is 00:16:38 to float an entire hotel from you know when you first when you first said it pete i thought you meant what he's done is he's built a floating hotel off the coast of queensland and he's just let it float and he's ended up in north korea and i was about to say what are the chances of that happening that you don't want it to be it's incredible isn't it we should share it's really weird it should um it'd be really fun to make, you know, like a big zob. Make like a zob that's like 10 times thicker and 10 times bigger. And you just plonk it in the ocean. And I mean, it can't really be attacked or burst or anything
Starting point is 00:17:17 because it's really thick plastic. And, you know, you'd have some kind of inflation system. And just let it just, I'm basically describing a boy here, aren't I? But just let it float around the sea and we can sort of GPS track it. Where is it today? Oh, it's floating over to Siberia or wherever. But there are some absolutely gigantic things that are floating in the Pacific, aren't there?
Starting point is 00:17:38 Like massive, depressing, massive plastic islands and all that kind of stuff but one thing that um i was gonna ask you a potentially quite stupid question and although i've read a few books about the reason i'm not an expert at all uh what when you when they say that oh it went to north korea for tourist reasons in not in like the 90s i mean was there any tourism to speak of in north korea in the 90s i mean what that to to me feels a bit like a bit of contradiction of terms, really. Yeah, I mean... Because no one goes there now, right? Apart from for like scheduled tours and stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Yeah, but I mean, I guess it's still a tourist industry, isn't it? I mean, it's, you know, it's... But just not for people from the West? No, but loads of people go to North Korea every year. Yeah, it's a mood... I mean, I probably would have gone if it wasn't so fucking moody, you know, if it wasn't like a terrible, you know, regime
Starting point is 00:18:29 feeding endeavor. But you can go like on fishing trips and like quite pleasant boat trips and stuff. But obviously, you have to be followed around by a guide. It's the same like when I try to go to Iran and stuff, it's quite closed off and you got to go as a tour group and stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:48 But, I mean, if you're talking about the politics of visiting North Korea or a despotic regime, I mean, you could say that about a lot of countries around the world, but obviously, you know, it depends on it. Well, speaking of things that float floated your boat um i was reading the other i was yeah i didn't mean i didn't actually mean that i was reading um something the other day which was fascinating to me i had read about before but i completely forgot about it but um one of the things being at least in theory, mooted for a revolution in space travel is the idea of having a permanently installed line up to space.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Right. Things can travel up and down rather than thrust or boosters. Yeah, like a space elevator, essentially, yeah. And when I heard about that, I thought, wow, that would be so fucking cool. Wouldn't it? Right. So would that have to be moored in?
Starting point is 00:19:50 So it's got a huge counterweight at the top of it, basically. So it's like a tether. Right. But it'd be like one of those in an old shop. You'd put the money in the bowl and roll roll it down to to where the the the money receipts were and stuff or so according to um the theory and according to what i've read in fact i'll just read it to you now the competing forces of gravity which is stronger at the lower end and the outward upward centrifugal force which is stronger at the upper end, resulting in the cable being held up under tension
Starting point is 00:20:26 and stationary over a single position on Earth. Ah. So would it like swing round and visit, as the world rotated, it would swing round and visit different places that needed it in space? I'm not sure that would be safe. Well, because you wouldn't want us to have to move the portion that sits on the earth like
Starting point is 00:20:51 in a big circle it would have to go around the circumference of the earth wouldn't it so it would have to be moved every five minutes I think they should do it like a Eurovision type thing where countries get to bid over who gets to host it Yes and just I wouldn't trust anybody with it, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Like a mastermind type thing. Yeah, just give it to Iceland. But that's part of the reason why the, no, volcanoes, mate. You're out of your mind. It's one of the reasons why carbon nanotubes and graphene and stuff is, I think they're being explored as potential kind of materials to use. But it's weird to think that, like, you'd have to have, like, a no-fly zone around it.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Yeah. I mean, you'd be hoping that, I mean, it would be instantly destroyed by space trash, no doubt. But you'd be hoping that most commercial pilots would know to avoid a certain part of the Earth. It would be put somewhere weird, like out of the way, or even in the sea. Or even in the sea.
Starting point is 00:21:49 That's no way to talk about our alien cousins, by the way. Space trash, so insensitive. That's what hits all of the satellites. Oh, no, apparently so. Should we have a little break, Peter, and then we come back and do a few emails and tweets from our lovely listeners? Okay, then.
Starting point is 00:22:09 We could call it Peter Mark's Colossal Tassel. But we didn't. We called it Wrestle Me. Wrestle Me, Mark. Wrestle Me, Peter. A celebration of all things WrestleMania and beyond. And you may be thinking, I'm not really into wrestling. Well, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:22:25 There's something for everyone. To be honest, it's mainly about stuff like this. So hang on, Easy Lover was the original theme on WrestleMania. It was. Someone heard it on the radio and went, that sums up everything about WrestleMania to me. And this. You can really see the old back acne on test.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Yes. And this. Is it worth reminding people of what earthquake John Tenter looked like at 23 years old? Yeah, I think so. And this. For the record,
Starting point is 00:22:51 Marty has made it very clear and I agree and believe him that he has never A, had sex with his daughter or B, wanted to have sex with his daughter. And the people behind the face paint
Starting point is 00:23:00 doing the most unique job in the entire world. Get it wherever you get your podcasts. That's Wrestle Me. Wrestle Me, Mark. Wrestle Me, Pete. And we're back with the Luke and Pete show.
Starting point is 00:23:14 I hope you enjoyed the adverts, if indeed there were any adverts. Hey, it's an unpredictable advertising situation under lockdown and a slight recession. We don't know what's happening. But if you heard if you heard something commercial i hope you enjoyed it and heeded its warnings or recommendations if you didn't i hope that little diddly-dee noise uh enthralled you normal normal presenters don't do that bit do they like if you watch tv on itv or whatever and it's like a it's like a magazine
Starting point is 00:23:42 show ever they don't come back back to someone and they go, did you enjoy the adverts? Did you get any adverts? Who knows? They don't break the fourth wall, do they, on that front? Well, in many ways, for us, it's Schrodinger's advert because we don't know whether there's one in there until it goes into the system.
Starting point is 00:23:57 So it could have existed, it could have not existed. We just don't know. Speaking of Schrodinger's advert, right? The concept of quantum physics and stuff is baffling when... Now, I'm going to get hammered for saying this, and people can email in hello at lukeandpeachshow.com. Yeah, it's part of that. It's related to that, yeah. I'm about to go out of my comfort zone, but I don't care
Starting point is 00:24:21 because I haven't left the house in about six weeks. You're out in space on a big string, mate am i am but the idea that i believe it's the copenhagen interpretation of quantum physics right by a guy called neils bohr i read about it years ago i'm not i'm not anywhere near across it anymore but from what i remember a generally accepted theory around it is that for something to exist it has to have something observing it right so okay so if for example and the people email in if i'm wrong on this hello at luke and peachy.com email in please please do because i'd love to be be corrected if i am if i need to be but so i think what i'm right and saying is if no one is looking at the moon, the moon under that theory doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Right. Okay. And so there's also this thing called the double slit experiment where they show particles going through two different slits at the same time. And it's only when you connect and interact with one of them that it exists in that place. So particles also exist as waves and as particles at the same time. It's absolutely ridiculous what happens when you get to like
Starting point is 00:25:31 a subatomic level in this universe we're in. I think it's all a simulation personally, but that's probably a conversation for another time. I mean, that's a little bit more fanciful than, you know. Are you with me so far? Yeah, kind of. But I mean, yeah. I mean, the thing is, though, in situations like this,
Starting point is 00:25:47 I always think there is no point in me being up on this stuff. I'm not helping. I'm not hindering. I mean, to be honest, I think us talking about quantum physics or attempting to on the Luke and Pete show is hindering more than helping anyone. No, Pete, I don't think it can get any more confusing. In many ways, use it as an amazing free pass
Starting point is 00:26:10 to do whatever you want, because whatever you say will not be more mental than what actually is happening. Mate, I walk past Chinatown around the corner from me almost every day, and there's those big arches. I think it's called pie fang um and the wood joinery in the pie fang is so unique and wonderful and structurally uh interesting i and it was just created by some blokes you know i mean like oh yeah so women it
Starting point is 00:26:41 was just created by some people who knew how to fucking join things properly. I could sit and watch YouTube videos, and it is usually YouTube videos, about this stuff for hours and hours and hours. And how crafty people can be. It's just... And so imagine when we get to quantum physics and particle acceleration. So I'm going, I'll just stick to me joinery i'll stick to my trends that's why that's why you and i are we're never going to get to that level because i think what i always think when i when i when i'm thinking about stuff like quantum physics
Starting point is 00:27:16 is because the famous quote is if you think you understand that you actually don't right everyone needs to understand that they don't understand it and this is about you know exploring it as much as you can but if i was was at that level, I would just chuck a load of, I just chuck the occasional little curveball in there that I've made up. Because why not? Like Malcolm Gladwell talks about, Malcolm Gladwell talks about the idea that because his books are written for a lay audience and because he's popular he gets quite a lot of um stick from like proper what would be you know in quite proper academics right and his father i think was a very very well respected academic in one field or another and i can't remember which which field it was but
Starting point is 00:27:55 he said in an interview i heard with him he said my father would write books knowing that really only 150 people in the world would read and understand them i write books for and lots of people read them and that's why i want to do it because it's it's it's more meaningful to to do it in that way and i hope i'm not putting words in his mouth he won't listen to this he doesn't care but the point is that if you're if you're understanding things at that level have a bit of fun with it you know but and then finally pete on this front on this thing i thought you of all people would be well on board with the simulation theory which is i think a at least scientifically accepted theory that could be what we're experiencing is a super powered
Starting point is 00:28:37 very complicated simulation computer simulation uh yeah it could be but then could it just not just i mean in the exact same breath just be a random coalition of particles doing whatever the fuck they want to do yeah but but simulations are so good now aren't they it's not it's not unbelievable it wouldn't be ridiculous to suggest that the technology a hundred years time could give us a simulation that would be non-discernible from reality right reality Reality would be essentially an abstract idea of whatever you decide it is because the other simulation would be so realistic that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between them. You could have said that about paintings like 300, 400 years ago,
Starting point is 00:29:17 though, couldn't you? Oh, what, it just gets so good that you wouldn't be able to tell? Yeah, it's so good you wouldn't be able to tell. But paintings don't move, do they? They're in two dimensions. Yeah, exactly. But obviously you wouldn't be able to tell. The paintings don't move, do they? They're in two dimensions. Yeah, exactly. But obviously, and then animation comes along and, you know, it's an approximation and an image of something rather than actual.
Starting point is 00:29:35 You charmed me there. God did it. Charmed you. Right, emails. We're all in God now. Hello at lucanpeach.com is the email address. Please send us an email on anything you feel particularly passionate about. Pete, have you got an email you want to start with,
Starting point is 00:29:51 or would you like me to start with one? Let me get one up. I've got one up. Sam, Sam Graham. Hi, guys. If ever proof we needed that Luke spends too much time with Peter, then surely the recent monkey chat is it. Upon declaring that he was walking through Malaysia
Starting point is 00:30:07 with a banana in his back pocket, Luke simply ignored this declaration and moved on to the next topic. Surely this situation could use some explaining. I mean, it was simply that, to be honest, Sam, but I do enjoy the fact that it tickled you and also depressed you that we've gone so low. Yeah, I don't...
Starting point is 00:30:24 I mean, is this you walking through malaysia with a banana in your pocket is that what you're saying yeah i think you're suggesting that's weird i don't think that's weird is it no i mean having a banana in your pocket is a perfectly sensible thing to do i think the the weirdness came from my surprise at the idea uh that a monkey would want it out of my pocket. Yeah, and I think, is it Sam the emailer there? Yeah, yeah. Sam, I think you are actually quite endearingly naive if you think that's even going to register on the Pete Donaldson Richter scale of oddness.
Starting point is 00:30:55 No. My friend, you are sadly very much mistaken because Pete does a hundred things like that every day, much more odd. I had a whiskey in my coffee yesterday so um becoming a problem drinker um uh i am enjoying the uh the person who like we the lucan peach shore uh inbox is uh unmanageable it just there's just so much junk mail and i hear every last one of you signed us up everything that you signed us up for but i did did enjoy the fact that getting a lot of emails
Starting point is 00:31:25 from the American Egg Board. A lot of egg action. A lot of egg action, obviously, maybe reacting to recent situations. Yeah, there's a live webinar happening May 13th, 1 to 2 Central Time. Featured presenters, Chef Emily Cruz and Chef Robert Darney,
Starting point is 00:31:43 they're all going to be getting involved in the egg pro from the American Where's Keith Cooks? Keith Cooks has got to be in there. I know right we've had a few little videos sent in on how to make
Starting point is 00:31:53 like a weird long egg like wrapped it like somebody made like a really it actually looked harder than Keith Cooks method about the old long egg they made it out of like a weird bottle thing,
Starting point is 00:32:07 and then they covered it in mincemeat and just basically made a long Scotch egg, effectively. But, yeah, we do get sent quite a lot of long egg action. When I was in – back in the days when you can go to the pub, I was in the pub called the Earl of Essex in Islington, not far from our office, actually, with some friends, and we thought we'd all get together have a bit of a lunch and um you know see what happened have a few beers stay there for the afternoon all that good stuff that we're not allowed to do anymore and it's actually making me a bit emotional thinking about it but anyway
Starting point is 00:32:37 um we went there uh about seven or eight of us uh ordered some lunch went around the table we all ordered from the menu my friend tomm, who I think does listen to this show semi-regularly, so he might hear this. Hello, Tommy. When the waiter came to him, he said, can I have two scotch eggs, please? What's wrong with that? And instead of ordering off the main menus,
Starting point is 00:33:00 he just ordered two scotch eggs from the starter and ate them as a main. Right. So were they warm? I mean, because were they like really nice? Came on two separate little plates. They were lovely. Yeah, lovely.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Yeah. I just don't know if anyone's, I've never seen anyone order kind of two scotch eggs in one go before in a pub. It's quite deviant behavior, if you don't mind me saying. Yeah. There's a scene in The Gentleman, or Gentleman, Gentleman? Gentleman. the Gentleman or Gentlemen, Gentleman, Gentleman,
Starting point is 00:33:30 which is the Lockstock director's guy, what's his name, Guy. Oh, Guy Ritchie. Guy Ritchie's new film. Oh, it looks quite good, that. Is it decent? It's a bit flab. Yeah, it's all right. It's a romp.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Yeah, it's very watchable. All of Guy Ritchie's films are watchable. You know, the dialogue's pretty okay. It's slightly problematic racially at times. But seeing Matthew McConaughey going into a London pub and ordering a pickled egg made me very pleased. I would spend good money to have a pint in a pub with Matthew McConaughey. I'd probably spend, I'd probably spend if I,
Starting point is 00:34:06 I mean, I don't have it, but if I had it, I mean, this is kind of an abstract concept because if I had millions and millions, it wouldn't matter how much I spent. But I think I could find myself in a position where I'd pay a thousand pounds for a pint with Matthew McConaughey in an English pub. I'd pay a little more, but yeah, I'd pay a little more.
Starting point is 00:34:24 But just one pint, one pickled egg and get out of there. Charlie Hunnam in that film. Good Lord. I know he's from Newcastle and stuff. He was the lad in Queer as Folk back there, wasn't he? And he's gone to America and he's come back and he's forgotten how to do any British accents from Cockney to Northern.
Starting point is 00:34:42 It oscillates between kind of South Shields to Birmingham. It's such a hodgepodge. He's been out there for too long, bless him. His accent in Green Street is an absolute abomination. Aberration. To the point of where I think they should have just cast a Cockney actor, even if he wasn't as good. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Because for me, speaking is quite a big part of acting. So you can't tell me he's a brilliant actor if everything he says sounds ridiculous. I don't know why they get to that point. It shouldn't happen. It's crazy to me. It's because it's all American productions, isn't it? And they don't know how anybody speaks.
Starting point is 00:35:30 We were forced. We weren't forced. I forced everyone to watch Final Score with Dave Bautista. They were okay accents and that I seem to recall, but there was a couple that were very Hollywood cockney. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I've often asked this about Star Wars, were very Hollywood cockney. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:48 I mean, I've often asked this about Star Wars, the most recent Star Wars movies. Now, I suspect this is because it tests better with American audiences to have an American accent in the lead. Right. But they cast Daisy Ridley and John Boyega in the two leads. They're both British.
Starting point is 00:36:04 They give John Boyega an American accent and they don't give Daisy Ridley and John Boyega in the two leads. They're both British. They give John Boyega an American accent and they don't give Daisy Ridley one. Yeah. So is that just a cynical ploy to have a British accent and an American accent in the same movie to make everyone happy? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Would it be the... I don't want to get into this sort of gender politics of it, how English people probably give off a... In films, English accents generally used to be you're evil or you're very intelligent or just posh. Not us. We're none of them. We're none of those. There was this accent coach talking about all of the different accents
Starting point is 00:36:42 and how long it takes for people to get into them and why Americans can't do British accents and why formerly trained British actors are invariably a lot better at adopting foreign accents, certainly American ones anyway, and being able to pick them out. And this vocal coach did sort of go, oh, some of the trickiest accents are Welsh.
Starting point is 00:37:04 This American vocal accent coach went, yeah, some of the most difficult ones are Welsh. And he spat it out, the worst Welsh accent I've ever heard in my fucking life. He was nailing every other accent in the world. But as soon as he got to Welsh, he fucked it. There's a brilliant YouTube video that's done the rounds of an american voice
Starting point is 00:37:26 coach who goes and the video is like a map and it goes around all the different districts of the uk and he or she i forget who do the different accents and it is hilariously funny like because it like to it to a native speak i know it's easy for us to say we don't we don't speak any other languages blah blah blah but i mean it is hilarious to to hear the impression of how they think that those people sound yeah because it is so i remember when i first went to the us and met all my us family like i i could tell that a few of them probably didn't understand me that well. I think because I speak quite fast. I was quite surprised at how many times I had to repeat myself. It's nothing to do with them. It's completely to do with me and my diction and stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:17 But the reason I say I was surprised was I just wasn't expecting it. You were just led to believe that you speak the same language, so that's that, right? And America is culturally very, very different to the UK in lots and lots of ways that only kind of started to reveal themselves to me as I spent more time there. And the accent thing, I think that a few of them, the people I met, my wife's friends and stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:38:42 found it quite curious to listen to me speak, and not necessarily in a good way. So yeah, anyway. Listen, Pete, we've gone way over time. We should probably go. Way over time. Yeah, let's do some more emails on Thursday. We'll try and get around to a few more then.
Starting point is 00:38:55 We'll wrap up here for now. Thank you very much for listening along. Hello at Luke and Pete Show to get in touch. At Luke and Pete Show on Twitter as well. If you want to say hello there, you're very welcome to do so. Have a great week. We'll see you again on Thursday. Stay safe.
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