The Luke and Pete Show - Pepe le Prawn's Little Door

Episode Date: August 25, 2025

Luke's been on a Disney cruise! He tells Pete all about it - the characters appearing out of nowhere and terrifying his son, the amazing places he visited, the idle fantasies about jumping into the br...iny sea and how long he'd survive. The usual.On today's episode there's also time to crown an Official General Practitioner of The Luke and Pete Show, and Luke gets in big trouble for saying it's probably quite easy to be a GP. Turns out it isn't. Also, before they sign off for another Monday, the lads ruminate on which finger would be best to cut off. You know, if you absolutely had to.Email us at hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on X, Threads or Instagram if character-restricted messaging takes your fancy.Please fill out Stak's listener survey! It'll help us learn more about the content you love so we can bring you even more - you'll also be entered into a competition to win one of five PlayStation 5's! Click here: https://bit.ly/staksurvey2025 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's the Luca Pitcho. Welcome to it. It is Monday. Do hope you're keeping well. Do hope you're having a lovely weekend if your weekend has sort of bled. Bank holiday, isn't it? It's bank holiday. It feels like it's bank holiday. It feels like it's probably bank holiday in the UK. So if you're in the UK and you're enjoying this twaddle with one earpiece in as you're enchanting your daughter or son, please enjoy it responsibly. Only bad parents do that, though. Only bad parents do that.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Yeah. I'm only joking. I'm only joking. We're all struggling. We're all doing our best. We're all struggling. We're all doing our thing. Honestly, it's the only time.
Starting point is 00:00:43 If I've got listened-throughs to do on shores, it's the only time I get to work into it. That is the thing, isn't it? So I find, I don't, thankfully, because I've constructed enough, um, uh, kind of infrastructure around me at the company. I don't need to do that many listen-throughs. But when you do, the point is, though,
Starting point is 00:01:03 it's worth pointing out, like, there's no shortcut there. They're getting away with murder. They're getting away with murder, Luke. They're letting in all kinds of libel. Can you? You can't be like, oh, it's like, I suppose you'd listen to it on increased speed, but that's not going to work, really.
Starting point is 00:01:15 It's not, and you can't get the real quality of, like, because there might be a fuck, edit fuck up, that you completely miss on double speed or three-quarter speed or whatever. Anyway, anyway, anyway, how you doing? You're all right? You can keep me right? Pretty good.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Yeah. Pretty good. Yeah. I went on holiday, didn't I? I said I'd talk about that today. Did go on holiday. So you went on a pleasure cruise. Well, we took our son, who is two,
Starting point is 00:01:41 alongside part of the wider family, on a Disney cruise. That could not be more exciting for a child. Yeah, he was absolutely loving it. Apart from the Disney character, which he was terrified of. Yeah, I bet. Which ones was he most scared of? Well, I'll tell you, So on this Disney cruise, it went up to Norway.
Starting point is 00:02:02 It's a combination of like Disney Park and Disney Hotel on a massive cruise ship, right, with three and a half thousand people on it. And so you obviously, we sailed up to Norway. We went up and down the fjords and most of the days you just jump off and go and do something in Norway in like a nice little pleasant town or village in Norway. We actually went to Bruges on the boat there as well, which is good. But while you're on the ship, like, the characters, they can just appear anywhere,
Starting point is 00:02:33 which is kind of cool if you're like eight years old. But if you're two, I mean, it's like being visited by the Haitian death squads. You know, and I've never, you were of the, the Disney vehicle, Lilo and Stitch. Yes, it's a little. God, what is Stitch? Is he an alien, right? I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:51 I think so. I haven't watched it. But he, so there's like a five foot tall stitch knocking about. Too big. He came around the corner at one point, and my son, I genuinely thought he was going to physically shit his pants. Like, he was terrified. You need a little person in that suit, or a child. Like, you can't have, like, you can't have that.
Starting point is 00:03:14 By the end of the, he was even scared of like the princesses, though, who were just women dressed as princesses. But I think sometimes just the ceremony and the kind of bigness of everything, kind of like the colours and, yeah. So he was excited about, like, he loved. He loved the idea of like Mickey Mouse to the point where he wanted a little Mickey Mouse plushy, which we got him. And he watched a bit of Mickey Mouse on TV in the room. And he loved seeing Mickey Mouse from like 20 feet away. He would be like transfixed by it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:43 But he would never get in a queue and go and get his photo taken. He didn't want to get any closer. And there was a brilliant moment where we took him for this dinner at one of the restaurants and halfway through the dinner. Because he's got two cousins, right? They're four and nine. So they're into it. Yeah. And they were there.
Starting point is 00:03:58 and at one point we went for this dinner and halfway through the dinner a lot of these characters come in and do like a song and a dance for the kids right and they put the hand out for coins yeah
Starting point is 00:04:09 they got a full man called pet dog with him they got like a paper cup and no what happened was they came in and it was Mickey Mouse Minnie Mouse Goofy and Donald Duck
Starting point is 00:04:22 and Donald Duck came in last and my son was just in the middle of eating his dinner and he's pretty good at eating this dinner he was getting on with it and the music started and he was like he noticed it and then the lights kind of went funny
Starting point is 00:04:33 and he was like okay what's happening yeah yeah it's just a bit like the atmosphere had changed notice of it okay yeah and Mickey Mouse comes running in who by the way I noticed this half-offrooping away and no he speaks exactly
Starting point is 00:04:48 like Michael Jackson does he I think Michael Jackson might have modelled his voice on Mickey Mouse I thought he's all that money you fucking idiot you'd say Donald Duck you're fucking idiot you'd say Donald
Starting point is 00:04:58 Duck. I said, Mickey Mouse came in first, and by the way, he speaks like Michael Jackson. Yeah, he does. Yeah, he does. Yeah. Yeah. So that wasn't, I couldn't get that out of my mind. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:08 So anyway, Mickey Mouse came in, Minnie Mouse came in, Goofy came in, who is massive, right? Neitherly large. Yeah. And my son just looked a little bit confused and a little bit frightened. And then Donald Duck came stomping in, and there's like a gap in the music. And my son, at the top of his voice just went, well, I'd not like Donald. and absolutely killed it. Well, I not like Donald.
Starting point is 00:05:31 He killed it like dead. Two or three tables around us were like, what? But anyway, it was good. And we had a little balcony on our cabin, which was really cool to sit out there and watch the sea go by. And we didn't see any kind of whales or dolphins or anything like that, which is a shame, but it was good. I couldn't help thinking to myself,
Starting point is 00:05:54 how long am I surviving in this? that water. I was properly partridge about it. And I actually said, I actually said to another dad, oh yeah, what'd you reckon? If you go over there, what do you reckon? And he was into it. He was like, oh, well, you know, summer. So probably wouldn't be that cold. You know, the ships do turn around and come and get you again. Like, you'd probably be all right. And I was just thinking to myself, it looked quite inviting to get in there, have a little dive in there. That's how it gets you. Was there a siren down there trying to get you down there? Come on down.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah, mermaid. Liv just jumped off the side of the board. With a scallops bra. Would you not break your legs jumping off the side of the ship? I was on the eighth deck. Right. It's still not great.
Starting point is 00:06:42 It's not particularly compressive. When the water's moving, isn't it like better when it's moving? If it's flat, it can be like hitting concrete. I don't know. I think water's water in it. Whatever it's playing at. You really sound like what you're talking about there. You definitely don't.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I don't. What happens is, I speculate, you speculate, you speak, you say, Peter, you're talking nonsense and it's always proved that I'm right. That's how they, that's how it's. It's not always, not always. In fact, 50% of the time and the rest of the time, no one's right. No one wins. No one wins.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Whoever wins, we lose. But a good time was had by all, nobody got on sick. I mean, I'll tell you what. Because those kind of long-distance boat journeys, you always worry about the food poison, don't you? Yeah, my wife was big on that. The wife I have access to him, kept talking about. Norovirus. That was fine though.
Starting point is 00:07:28 It's really beautiful to kind of cruise up those fjords in Norway. That was amazing. And we're pretty lucky with the weather overall as well. So it's, yeah, it was decent. I love Bruges. It was great to go to see Bruges. I've been there a few times.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I really like it. It's probably the most underrated city in Europe, I would say. Did they, I would say it's very rare, isn't it? Bruges, because of the film and all that? It's quite well attended, isn't it? I don't think if you said to someone, give us your top three most beautiful cities in Europe, anyone's saying Bruges.
Starting point is 00:07:55 they're not going on once watched that movie with Colin Farrell 15 years ago have you been there I just thought it's I just I just thought it was a bit over compared to like um you against of this world it just felt like a bit over tourists tourist is a lot that is fair but I don't think that's get that's bruises fault is it no probably not you probably no it's not it's not it's not but yeah it was great though we had a really nice time um it was um yeah a lot to lot to do the the days at sea were actually quite good I felt like um because obviously I'm an experience sea fair of myself.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Any crimes? Any, like, crimes you out of solve? Like, interview all of the people in the... They did have a murder mystery thing for the kids, though. Not a detective story thing for the kids on the ship. Didn't they do that? What crime was being committed to? I can't really remember because I didn't, I didn't do it, but like,
Starting point is 00:08:42 my niece did it. And it's basically, like, you go up to this TV screen at one part of the ship, and it sets you off on this, like, detective mystery around the ship. It's quite clever. Like that. You press, like, there's what, there was definitely at least one. picture frame with a movie poster
Starting point is 00:08:59 of the film Dumbo in it and it looked like a normal movie poster behind glass and when you touch it it turns into an animation Telly Yeah it's quite cool That's like that stuff going on It's a telly
Starting point is 00:09:11 They also had a little fake cabin door for Pepe Le Prone from the Muppets Which is enjoyable Nice, okay I'll say he's like little presumably A very small dog He's a prawn
Starting point is 00:09:23 King Prong Massive prawn, yeah. You walk down the corridor of all these rooms and just at one point in the middle of the corridor is a little tiny door with peppered the pror of it. Oh my God, that's exciting. You couldn't open it though. No.
Starting point is 00:09:37 He never came down. Where are you prong? Show yourself king prawn. But also, I mean, if you were a kid, you'd be loving it because at one point as well on the top deck, they had a big, quite a big swimming pool. And then a massive, and I do mean massive,
Starting point is 00:09:49 jumbotron TV screen that was just showing Disney movies all day. Oh my God. Even the old-school anti-Semitic ones? No. No. Did you see the Walt Disney animatronic? You know, like, animatronics were always a bit, like, dodgy and crap.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Like, a bit jittery and, you know, a bit, like, you know, Firelight at Freddy's kind of thing. They've got, like, a new Walt Disney animatronic in wherever the hell it is. I presume it's Disney from somewhere. And he, like, basically, it's so realistic. It's quite amazing. But it keeps messing up. he'll be leaning on his table and he goes I tell you back in the day
Starting point is 00:10:29 and as soon as something goes wrong and the cat's going to see nothing to see it's a bit west road in the film it is a bit westward but it's very impressive what they can do know it is if you look at some of the protocols around some of the parks like you can't everything's double doors so you can't ever see the backstage
Starting point is 00:10:48 area or the no that's clear they've also bought up a load of the land around Disney world so no one can build or develop on it so when you're in the park you can't see any other real world element
Starting point is 00:10:59 you can't die in Disney No they say that as well yeah no one ever gets declared dead at Disney World yeah it's kind of interesting
Starting point is 00:11:07 yeah what is what is incredible about it is that like the people who love it like properly love it it's almost like you know I was talking
Starting point is 00:11:15 a while back about when I went to go and see Iron Maiden earlier in the summer and like 75% literary of people were wearing like some kind of Iron Maiden
Starting point is 00:11:22 merch yeah like Disney's like on a whole other level. Yeah. People collect all the merch. Is it Disney Borders? The Blocks and Women's
Starting point is 00:11:31 who go to Disneyland and they dress as their favorite character, but it's not like they don't dress in costume, they dress in if you were Bell out of Beauty and the base how she would dress if she was now, if you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:46 They're dressing the, so they sort of dress in not slightly normal clothes, but with a little accoutreement of pointing towards a particular character. So sometimes So basically, the couple that I follow on Instagram are, I think, might be, they just seem like trouble. But they do some amazing costumes
Starting point is 00:12:05 with, like, Disney costume stuff. They basically dress like Disney characters, but they don't go the full hog, if you know what I mean? They'll dress like, he'll dress like the clock from fucking Beauty and the Beast. I'm talking a lot of Beauty and the Beast.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Because I like Beauty in the Beast. I did a really good 3D animation ballroom scene that I loved when I was a kid. 18. So he'll dress like that He'll dress like Gasson from Beauty in the Base Stop sign all the characters that you know Isn't it Gaston anyway?
Starting point is 00:12:34 Gaston Yeah He'll dress like Gaston from Beauty and the Base But he'll just be wearing like shorts And a top that will be the same colour As the wax of Gaston And the brown I don't know
Starting point is 00:12:45 The yellow candelabra That he is armed and legged of The candelabre is called Lumier Who's Gaston then? Oh, he's the baddie, isn't he? Yeah. He's the human. He's the antagonist, yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Lumier. This is one of the most confusing stories. I think you've ever told. That is saying something here. This is people on Instagram and they're adult Disney enthusiasts and they dress like the fucking characters. But they don't dress, but they don't dress in costumes. They don't dress like Donald Duck.
Starting point is 00:13:15 They dress with the clothes that Donald Duck would wear. Fine. Say that then. With his Willie out. And Pete, are those people in the room with you now? I just think they might, I just look at it and go, oh, that's quite creative, but very, like, obsessed with like a cutthroat capitalist organisation. Do you know what I mean? It's a weird thing to be really into.
Starting point is 00:13:39 You can enjoy it, and I think I would get a lot, and my family would get a lot out of Disney land or whatever. But it's the, when you go the whole hog, it's when you turn up to WrestleMania with the, with three belts that you have to carry around all day basically saying I spend the best part of the ground. Well, when stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:13:56 they spend like thousands of pounds just to turn up to WrestleMania and they've got to carry these big heavy belts around all day and they're basically saying the Vince McMahon or whoever's running the company look what I spent on you. Look how much I love you and it's this kind of like adoration
Starting point is 00:14:10 through... They're not making the connection between the fact they're having to live off. Yeah. Mac and cheese for a week. Make your own, exactly. Mark Hanson, from wrestling,
Starting point is 00:14:18 speaking of which was at Disneyland, Paris, this week. And he sent me a picture of the smoking area, which looked absolutely depressing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't think the Disneyland Paris one is rated. No, but I mean, that said, it's Disneyland Paris. Just have a smoking area. Sorry, a non-smoking.
Starting point is 00:14:36 No, just have a non-smoking area. Everything's smoking. No, I think they've recently passed a law in France to great controversy where they now can't smoke in public places, can you? What? And it's been a big thing about, like, the French identity and culture and that kind of stuff. fucking, where's the old Gilles Gilles
Starting point is 00:14:50 in the street? I know. Burning big siggies. I know. Very burnable as average's go. Going back to your point about the kind of Disney adult. It wasn't a point.
Starting point is 00:15:00 It wasn't a point. Allow me to try and make some kind of purse out of this pig's ear. Like there's a, I think there's, to me, I felt like when I was there, there's an acceptable a level of enthusiasm
Starting point is 00:15:15 that adults should be showing. Because I think if you go to, cynical it's a bit like what you're doing it like you're just making it shit for your kids and you're not getting into swing of it and it's almost a bit like going to a fancy dress party refusing to dress up and talking about how you hate fancy dress me fuck off don't come to the party yeah don't go yeah completely agree but on the other side there are people there who are so into it's unbelievable i was chatting to a guy because people just talk to each other because it's people who's friendly i suppose he he was on his 26th disney cruise alone in the last three years
Starting point is 00:15:48 that is some I mean that's disposable income to the nth degree I asked him how I could afford it and he wouldn't tell me he's like I've got a load of I get the last minute deals do you though
Starting point is 00:15:59 last minute is where do you you can't work you just simply can't work yeah he's done to bear and you still have to work in between you can't just take all this time off cruises by the miniature
Starting point is 00:16:09 can't be cut short you can't just take a dingy back to land I also did a sport trivia quiz in one of the bars nice And I was beaten on the tie break question, which was how many dimples are in the average golf ball? Oh. And the guy who I was up against got it exactly right.
Starting point is 00:16:35 It's the same every golf ball, is it? He said 336, and the answer was 336. Right, okay. He must have known. Is that like regulation dimple? How many would you say? I would have said much less. I think I guess like 200 or something.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I was no one in it. I was like no way in it. But anyway, I mean, listen, you can't go back though. I'm not holding that against him. Good on him. He won the Disney Sports Trivia Medal and I didn't. You've taken, was there a monetary recompense for all of your hard work on that competition? Nah.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Just for fun. The honor is for the honor. I was pleased to get that far. I mean, a lot of the questions were about American sports. So you get to open the duty. in Pepe Le Pran's house and you get to stick your head in for five minutes. See what's going on in there. Too long.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Two long. Five minutes is way too long. Mate, you should see what he's did in there. It is disgusting. A couple of the nights, no, you're not going to break because I haven't finished. A couple of the nights Donaldson, a couple of the nights were pretty choppy as well. Oh, right, yeah? In the North Sea, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Yeah. It was strangely, here's the thing. I was thinking, oh, I don't want to be too choppy because I don't want to get C-6, that'd be embarrassing because I'm from the South and I spent a lot of time on the water as a kid and actually I was fine
Starting point is 00:17:53 As you get older though you can't but as you get older you can't fight you can't fight that can you can't go on the swing you can't go on the swing you can't go around the bow it's impossible but anyway I was actually fine with the motion what I didn't realise is like rough seas make a fucking ship so loud
Starting point is 00:18:12 right things are banging and things are groaning and things are groaning and creaking. I even had earplugs in I still couldn't get to sleep. It was wild how noisy it was. But thankfully my son slept all the way through it.
Starting point is 00:18:24 He's champion sleep. Oh, that's great. What a trooper. I know. Anyway, so it was good. I'd recommend it. Yeah. It's a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:18:31 It's a lot of fun. And one of the great things about a cruise is that it's the first one I've ever done. I probably won't do one again for a while. But it's great waking up in a new place every time. That's a real novelty.
Starting point is 00:18:41 It never wears off that novelty. Completely agree. Completely agree. A lot of fun. A lot of fun. Just the joy of seeing a child just enjoy the sea on a trip like that must be just amazing because I can't have spent that much time on a boat, surely.
Starting point is 00:18:57 No. No. Absolutely not. Well, there we go. Right. I really have to get us to break because we promised that bloody GP letter. Oh, we've got to do that.
Starting point is 00:19:06 We'll do that after the break, yeah, for sure. We do that after the break. We're back from the break on the Look &Pete Show. If you want to get to the show, as always, hello at Lungpeach Show.com is the way to do it. If you want to lambast at Luke, Luke, do you want to sort of reappraise everyone as to what you said about general practitioners, the doctors of this fine land?
Starting point is 00:19:24 I believe I'm right and say I didn't make a statement. I asked a question. Ah, just asking questions. Just asking questions. Yeah. You basically said that it's well easy to be a GP. You look everything up that you need to look up, etc, etc. I mean, I do resent the paraphrasing of that, but ultimately you are correct.
Starting point is 00:19:42 That is the TLDR of what happened. So our friend Charlie emailed in as a GP and he said that he, you know, he gets, wouldn't he tell him he get his blood, he gets his blood pressure monitor stolen or something? Oh yes, his, yeah, the blood oxygen monitor. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And I said, oh, will you be the official GP of Luke and Peaks? We haven't got an official GP. Yes. And then that led on to a conversation about how I would, I argued that potentially merely asking the question. Potentially! Do not roar back in your little life boat jumping off your big ball. Oh, by the way, I saw,
Starting point is 00:20:14 them testing the life boats at one of the ports we were in. Why, they're testing them. That was fucking good, though. I didn't realize that they got, like, proper, um, engines on them. Yeah. I thought they were just, like, rescue boats, just chuck yourself in there. Just float, hope for the best. Bob around for a bit.
Starting point is 00:20:29 They were fucking cool. Genuinely cool. And I was surprised how quickly they could get them out. Anyway. Whip. Anyway, Charlie then got back in touch. I'll read the email because I think it's probably fair. I come off, I come out of it quite badly.
Starting point is 00:20:42 But I'll read it in its entirety because that's the, fair thing to do. Yes. Charlie says, Hi, lads. I was pleased to see my battery daddy submission get led to a job offer. Let me cover a few points.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Point number one, the theft of equipment from my room is normally other members of staff borrowing it and not returning it rather than patients. The only thing I've had nicked by a patient was the green prescription pads, but you won't get very far with those alone nowadays.
Starting point is 00:21:09 They were really important back in the need. You could steal on them and just write yourself a lot of prescriptions. So why can't you do that now then? Need ID? I think drugs get sent straight to boots to get picked up and stuff. Oh, of course. There's a system in place that it's all digital.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I mean, I'll kind of find myself being a bit nostalgic for that. Yeah, actually, it's not all digital because I had a prescription not that long ago that was written out. So, yeah, I don't know. There's probably some kind of error checking going on so that people who steal green prescription pads can't just write themselves a bloody email. Anyway. And the way that they sort of limit the amount of stock of drugs going to places, pharmacies, you usually have to order stuff in anyway, so they know you're coming, I think, sometimes.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Fine. All right, just say you don't know next time, Pete. I do not, because I go with my asthma drugs every month. Did you have to do your inhaler when you're getting your fatty deposit? It's cut off. No, my heart was going like, a clap. I was a fucking hell. I hope they don't lose a patient here.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Why? Because you're nervous. Well, because your body, because it doesn't matter with your nom, it doesn't matter. Even when you go under, even when you go under, your body still experiences the pain. The adrenaline still kicks in and all that stuff. But you just don't, you just don't feel it or you just don't, you're in a corner. It was pretty, it was going. You gave me a little balter squeeze.
Starting point is 00:22:30 It didn't hurt about. Were you hooked up to a heart monitor? Well, the thing, no, no, not all. But I felt, I was like, it was bad because I hadn't eaten, this brilliant stuff, hadn't eaten, had a monster energy drink. But it cuts through your blog There's a green juice to start coming out No wonder it's trying to pop out The old fatty lump
Starting point is 00:22:51 Jesus Anyway I need to compose myself So yeah that's that Point number two I'm happy to be the official GP The Luke and Pete show Great thanks Charlie Appreciate you accepting that offer
Starting point is 00:23:01 Point number three To the question is being a GP Easy there is a short and long answer The short answer is Luke Go fuck yourself Fair enough Yes The long answer is
Starting point is 00:23:11 there are no easy jobs in medicine and being a GP is incredibly hard. Let's look at the example you used. Someone comes in with a single issue. You rule out the red flags and treat if you know or if you don't know, you refer or you Google. The majority of patients have more than one issue to discuss generally because it is difficult to get an appointment, which is usually a combination of increasing demand, brackets, increasing population, aging population, population are much more prone to seek help for their health and lack of workforce brackets number of GPs of four and over the last 10 years and our rotors are being taken by PAs or AMPs so I guess that means um AMPs I think means advanced nurse practitioner I think is there cheaper labour for squeeze practices therefore you have to
Starting point is 00:23:55 try and squeeze in three conditions into a 10 or 15 minute appointment I took my son to the GP a while back and it was an AMP and I was a bit like is this right but she was very good so he's got on with it It's usually kind of, it's usual kind of like, you know, eye infection, ear infection, the usual stuff that people have, they can dispense antibiotics, can't they? So, yeah, yeah. So, look, Charlie's basically saying there might be three conditions into a 10 or 15 minute appointment. We have to take a history with you previous notes, examine, explain, and come to a joint plan in that time for one issue.
Starting point is 00:24:22 It's barely possible for free. And yes, for example, a rash is a fairly straightforward appointment, but what have someone reports, not just, someone reports something like, I'm just not feeling right, I've got a fuzzy head, or my whole body's in pain, history is more tricky to precisely work out, so it's difficult to know what's going on. Charlie says, I tend to use open questions to begin with, and then more closed questions to rule out the red flags, but some patients will just say yes to every symptom that you list. Furthermore, the mental health part of it is a huge proportion of our workload now.
Starting point is 00:24:52 To be acceptable by mental health services, you have to be very, very sick. So I'm regularly speaking to patients who are suicidal, taking them through support available, starting mediation, and making sure they have a crisis plan, and this takes longer than 15 minutes. when these patients leave the room or come off the phone you can never be 100% sure they aren't going to act on their thoughts and you carry that risk with you until you speak to them next which may be weeks and these are the patients that wait me up at 3am
Starting point is 00:25:14 thinking about them that made me feel really bad when he said that I'll be honest I was taking a turn to email isn't it? But you have to read it all out you can't edit no I am I'm reading it all out and that's fair enough I'll take it on the chin and then see Charlie for a problem with my chin
Starting point is 00:25:30 he says there is an amount of the amount of appointments is tough as well the rural college of general practitioner safe number of appointments a day is 25 per GP no practice I have worked at ever keeps to this if you are on call you normally have around 40 during these on calls you also have to answer any questions from reception from district nurses from physios from practice nurses etc furthermore you have to review your lab work reading carry out tasks from secondary care letters and review prescription and queries this often leads to over a hundred patient contacts a day, which is unsafe, but pretty ubiquitous. Then there are the patients.
Starting point is 00:26:06 I am lucky most of my patients are kind and appreciative, but we still get spoken to appallingly at times and sworn at. Yeah, I mean, on that, try being a podcast host. Come on now. It's not in our face, is it? I'm talking about what I get from you. I'm just joking. On the shore, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:26 The misinformation surrounding vaccine, COVID, weight loss, drugs and leads to people going against medical advice when they're the ones in need of real help or not vaccinating their kids. In the past 10 years, I have been told I'm worse than the apartheid regime and anyone can do a medical degree with the internet. The view of GPs in media is anti and there are rarely positive stories, promote a negative view of the public. To your point, refer to a specialist. Okay, well yes, but we can only do that for specific issues or the referral be rejected. And if it is accepted, they might not be seen for 18 months and we still have to support their issues until they're seen by a specialist? And what about the patients who have seen
Starting point is 00:27:02 several specialists for an issue without finding an answer? GP morale is really quite low at the moment. The latest survey states 40% plan not to be a GP in the NHS in the next five years. I would consider myself one of those with Australia or Canada the likely destination. And yes, I Google stuff all the time. Complaints from fairly out of left field are regular. For example, my son ate a spies are on holiday and now his eyes hurt. and I had sex with a hooker and now my dick looks bigger are some recent ones that I've actually had good stuff
Starting point is 00:27:34 I'm a magical hooker bigger GP is hard but most jobs in the NHS are hard I'm thankful to have podcasts like yours and the ramble to keep me sane cheers Charlie see he ends even with a compliment to us which makes me feel even worse Doctor heal thyself with the ramble and the look of picture
Starting point is 00:27:49 I am sorry Charlie I didn't mean to be so frivolous well yeah and I guess your kind of point of entering the healthcare services from a relatively healthy 44 year old man. So, therefore you have 44 year old man problems, which aren't as advanced. You don't have
Starting point is 00:28:07 necessarily ill mental health and all that stuff that goes along with it. Yeah, I mean, the reason why you can't get a GP appointment is because there aren't enough days and hours in the but also, it seems to me like there's a little bit of unspoken stuff
Starting point is 00:28:23 in here from Charlie and I understand why he doesn't want to be rude about his patients and I totally get it but are we seeing too many people going to the doctor for no reason? Yes, probably. I would say also, I would say when I approach, I have healthcare concerns you really give... We talk about them every week. We talk about every week.
Starting point is 00:28:42 You can give them a Google just to say that you're not wasting someone's time. Do you know what I mean? Like look at the symptoms about what the big stuff is. Oh, in your case, just think about the things you've done. Just think of the things you've done. Right, I feel sick, what have I done? I've eaten a whole jar of pickles. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:58 There would be some people going to try and get D.P.'s appointment because they've eaten the pickles twice, right? And then there will be, and imagine how stupid I am, and there'll be people like me floating around who don't have access to Google or don't have a bullshit monitor on Google about, you know, what to look at. You know what I mean? Like, I, yeah, like, it's such a, it's such a difficult job,
Starting point is 00:29:23 and they've had to work so hard to get there. And they're all bugger off to Australia. Remember I did that, helped out an emergency physician fella who was doing a podcast. He did about like 20 episodes. He's really good at it. And he just went to Australia because it's just the pressure.
Starting point is 00:29:41 There's no excuse to go to Australia either. It's full of Australian. Well, well. Do you reckon people, some GP's go to Australia because you get more exciting ailments? Well, maybe more bites, I suppose. Yeah. Anyway, look, Charlie,
Starting point is 00:29:53 Thanks for getting in touch and thanks for accepting our generous unpaid offer to become the official GP at the Luke and Pete show. Before we go, very quickly... No, 42 patients you're seeing now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Call that unsafe, Charlie. Good on you. Before that, before we go, I like that we've got another email here from a GP from quite the other side of the spectrum who literally just emails us saying if you're being held hostage
Starting point is 00:30:18 and the pay the ransom proof of life is needed, which finger would you cut off? what was that what yeah it's GP Chris hello guys I'd like to put my name forward as an official medical correspondent
Starting point is 00:30:29 my job mainly involves shouting my job will mainly involve shouting no it stuff Pete says and sort of at stuff Luke says and I'm an actual doctor in Wiltshire right I was on the side of the doctors here thanks to Charlie's impassioned plea
Starting point is 00:30:44 for the put upon Chris is about to undermine all Charlie's hard work yeah and he's saying that he's saying shouting no at stuff that Pete says that's a fairly common refrain. Just because I bought
Starting point is 00:30:54 Valium on the internet once. Yeah. And I get a phone call every day from them. Not once. And the other time you got Valium, you asked a contact of mine before you went on the hall there. All right, twice then.
Starting point is 00:31:03 And you met around the back of a fucking IKEA in Brixton or something. I did. They were just this. Yum. Yeah. Worked. Fell asleep.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Good. Chris says that. I've been meeting to email for ages, but I'm slightly reluctant to share my interest in fact. This was taken from a symposium of trauma surgeons, but I can't find the source. so you have to kind of take my word for it and he says imagine the scenario
Starting point is 00:31:25 you've been held hostage and to pay the ransom proof of life is needed which finger would you cut off and no one I ask ever gets it right because most people say little finger now this is quite important for a lot of grips so holding a hammer
Starting point is 00:31:40 for example Pete to build a dangerous playhouse for your daughter some have said middle or ring finger which leaves you with basically an incontinent hand incompetent hand If you held a handful of change, it would just fall out the gap. It's very, very difficult. You can't obviously cut off your thumb. That's way too important.
Starting point is 00:31:59 According to trauma surgeons survey, the correct answer is actually the index finger of your dominant hand. A dominant hand. And then Chris says, apparently you can still play guitar, et cetera, because you have better neural connection on your dominant side so your middle finger could just pick up the slack. Now, I don't know if Chris is a doctor. Well, one would suggest that the trauma surgeon, surely their job ends once you've, you know, got them out of triage and they're out on the streets, yeah. And you're going to go to the rough of Charlie again here, talking about aftercare. Yeah, Charlie's going to have to look after the mental health of a man who's lost his finger and he can't play fat licks on him anymore.
Starting point is 00:32:39 That's not the main concern, surely though, but Chris mentions it as the main concern. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, look, if you've got anything to sell on yourself, get in touch. I mean, hopefully we've got a lot of postmen listening. We know we've got a lot of pilots listening. Have we got a lot of doctors listening? Come back on all this stuff that Charlie's saying, moaning about how hard his job is.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Chris, turn us stuff about people cutting their own fingers off. Can you do better? I've got my x-rays. Can someone look at my x-rays for my Ilam? For my large ilum, please. Because it's becoming increasingly hard to get answers. Do you want to come into the studio and cut Sankoff Pete? And can you do it for a cheaper cost that he's paid?
Starting point is 00:33:17 Exactly. Can you undercut my cutting man, please? Thank you. Right. Let's go out of here. It's been an emotional episode of the Luke and Peach Show. We'll be back very, very soon indeed. Get your batteries in. Hello at LukechO.com. The last battery symposium gave us two very close, kind of just past the post shots off target and one that was a wild smash into the face of somebody in the stand. So keep me coming in. We'll be back on that there Thursday. Take care.
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