The Luke and Pete Show - Pete from Glasto

Episode Date: August 18, 2022

Pete went to a “fake festival” and surprisingly it actually sounds quite good. Although Pete’s outfit raises a number of alarming questions…Speaking of festivals, the Luke and Pete Impromptu D...ocumentary Review Club sparks into life on today’s show as the lads take a deep dive into the recent Woodstock ‘99 series! It’s not to be missed.Want to contact the show? Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, we're recording. That's good for a podcast because we'll need that for later. It's the Luke and Pete Show. I'm Pete Donaldson. It is, it's a Thursday, Thursday the 18th of August. I'm Pete Donaldson.
Starting point is 00:00:19 I'm joined by Lister, Lister Mookmooer. Lister Mookmooer, great start. It's a great start to the show. What a great start to the show. What great start to the show? Stick a fork in me, I'm ready for the show. I guess I am kind of a listener, aren't I?
Starting point is 00:00:30 Yeah. Whether I want it or not. You've got to listen to me and then you have to react effectively. You've really got to kind of go, right, what's he talking about this time? What? Yeah. Because I'll throw things at you. Not that I'm a challenging intellect.
Starting point is 00:00:42 It's just that I don't have any intellect and I'm very forgetful. not that i'm a challenging intellect it's just that i don't have any intellect and i'm very forgetful and so you might be at any point in a sentence required to decode or uh come up with some facts that i haven't been able to remember yeah and i think this is the kind of the role i perform here is very much a translator isn't it and i think it's your it's that both of our names above the door but people are generally kind of listening for you really but i don't think people fully know who haven't done any broadcasting before how difficult it is to co-host with someone so unpredictable yeah but not but that makes it make me sound uh important and good but it's not it's just it's just oh no i don't mean that it's like it's like you're not not just an interpreter you're not just
Starting point is 00:01:24 a translator. You have to kind of, like, decode my cultural references as well for the people. So it's a localisation, I suppose you'd call it, more than anything else. You're an endangered species of one. Yeah, I'm an endangered species. I'm like a trash lemur.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Yeah. And what are you thinking about how... I know this is, like, boring chat, and I don't... I know this is like boring chat. I got to the point now where I'll be honest with you, because of the weather, I haven't slept very well. Still taking me time to catch up with the sleep because the weather's just been so brutal. So I don't actually... Do you know what?
Starting point is 00:01:56 For the first time, I don't actually fucking care if a listener finds this boring or not. What have you made of the weather, Peter? Because I think it's just been beyond the pale now yeah i spent the weekend in well i spent saturday mostly in a field and that was most unwelcome uh that was the last place i wanted to be and uh the the first place i i deemed uh to be and uh yeah it was absolutely ridiculous so we didn't get to this on monday um because we were talking about other things but what was the um what was the kind of arrangement like was it was there much shade on offer did you have enough water did you have plenty of sun cream what was the situation i bought myself you
Starting point is 00:02:34 know like one of those you know what the young people wear those little kind of over the shoulder across the chest kind of oh please don't tell me you did that. Come on, Alex. Alex at Glastonbury. Alex at Glastonbury singing Tiago Silva on stage. Yeah, it was like that. Yeah, I bought myself a little bag and I popped a little, my big phone and my little pot of sun cream and I just sort of wore that for most of the afternoon. But was it like brutally hot? It was too hot.
Starting point is 00:03:04 And also, I had about three curries as well. Again, not ideal. You don't even want to help yourself. Yeah, but I'd made a friend in the curry truck and he was a Geordie. And he was like, we were just talking about Steve Watson and Lee Clark and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:03:21 It was brilliant. He was a man of vintage. I don't think that means you have to buy three of his curries. I did have to go back. I went back for a pakora as well and a bit of tamarind. Why don't we have much tamarind kind of stuff in our lives? Tamarind's such an interesting flavour. I think our food would do quite well.
Starting point is 00:03:41 A bit of cheese with tamarind paste or tamarind jam or something. I think you can get it. You can get it. You got me a tamarind. of cheese with tamarind paste or tamarind jam or something. I think you can get it. You can get it. You got me a tamarind. I ate a tamarind. I think it's a confusing fruit for people to break out of the shell
Starting point is 00:03:51 and eat. It looks a bit odd. It looks a bit like a fox turd in the shell. Yeah. It's slightly bitter as well when you juice it. But I,
Starting point is 00:03:59 yeah, when I brought that home from St. Lucia, I'm fairly certain you're not going to do that. I'm fairly certain. If this was a TV show where I'm on the Australia border force, they'd be explaining to me why I fucked it up.
Starting point is 00:04:12 You're hiding tamarins in your fucking... Pants. ...done-up hair. I can imagine you just going up to the curry guy and going, excuse me, mate, how many curries do I have to buy to get a chat? Get a chat about Steve Watson? I want to talk about Steve.
Starting point is 00:04:29 He's one of the very few people who knows who Scott Sellers is, I must admit. Were you wearing your shirt? I wasn't wearing my shirt, no, but I told him about my shirt. If you're spending a lot of your time, presumably you're up there with friends, you go up to that part of the world because you went to university there, so you're up there with friends. If you spend that part of the world because you went to university there um so you're up there with friends if you spend a lot of the day just chatting to the bloke
Starting point is 00:04:49 working in the curry tent are you making the most of the day no well but i mean to be honest the reason why it's got tamarind uh the reason why we're up there was uh not because of this but it was something to do during the day um We went to something called a fake festival, Luke. It was a festival where all of the acts... I saw the video you sent me of the guy being JK from Jamiroquai.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Yeah, that was... He needed that headwear for anyone to have any idea who the fuck he was. He looked like Tim Westwood. He was... You can't say that these days. I mean, you can, but it puts different things in there, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:05:29 So this was the line-up, right? From 12 o'clock onwards. We had 12 o'clock. We had... Now, we had... I'm going to need the names of the bands as well, because that's normally the best part of a tribute band festival. Okay, yeah, I'll have a think.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Pulp were at 12 o'clock and they were pulped that kind of works didn't it okay yeah works it uh and then next up was the stone roses and i think that might have been the stoned roses nice and then jumeirah kai space Space Cowboy. Was he just called Space Cowboy? He's called the Space Cowboy. They were called Total Stone Roses, apparently. I'm on the website. Oh, I do, right. I go fair news. Okay, let's see how well I remember these then.
Starting point is 00:06:15 And then I think there was a Kasabian tribute act, and they just replaced the S with a Z. Kasabian. Lazy. Which is a nice touch. And then there was a Foo Fighters. Were they the Food Fighters? I can't remember now, Kazerbian. Lazy. Which is a nice touch. And then there was a Foo Fighters. Were they the Food Fighters?
Starting point is 00:06:27 I can't remember now, to be honest. Well, I'll tell you what I've got here on the list. Okay. I've got Green Date. Oh, no, none of these were,
Starting point is 00:06:36 yeah, it's a different date. Oh, okay, right. So they're basically, that's the interesting thing about it. Oh, no, sorry, I've got it here. I've got it here. I've got it here. Space Cowboy was the Jamiroquai one
Starting point is 00:06:46 yeah Kasabian was right just Kasabian with a Z yeah did you have the killers? no didn't have the killers no they're called the fillers apparently that's a good one
Starting point is 00:06:55 I like that and the Foo Fighters were called the Four Fighters the Four Fighters that's it and then some Oasis one which were also quite good but like
Starting point is 00:07:04 so this festival goes round and it just does different towns with different tribute acts but the problem is like some days you'll have
Starting point is 00:07:11 better lineups than others so you've got your Guns N' Roses tribute acts you've got your Bon Jovi you've got your
Starting point is 00:07:15 Killers you've got you know some pretty big bands with big songs and you're like right cool but we
Starting point is 00:07:22 I happen to think we had a bit of a stinking one. Nobody needed Jim Iroquois, although they were very good, and he sounded a bit like Jim Iroquois. So I love the idea of how... Three costume changes.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Nice, that's good to see. How do you put the line-up together? So do you go by... So say you did a fake festival, a true band festival, and if the words on their website are to be believed, wait till you see how our fake bands look, sound and festival, and if the words on their website are to be believed, wait till you see how our fake bands
Starting point is 00:07:46 look, sound and move. That's the tagline. But anyway, so we know what we're getting into. But do they go on the size of the band they're imitating or how good they are at imitating? So for example,
Starting point is 00:08:00 I don't see why, according to this line-up I've got here, I mean, I don't think Queen should be on first. No, no. That's an insult to the memory of the great Freddie Mercury.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Maybe they're just wholly inaccurate, or they've got a wedding later. I don't know. The Queen at 12pm? Get out! When was the last time Queen played at midday? But they do all these kind of towns, they do them like Cleethorpes and stuff, where they've got their own tent, so that that's paid for that's bought and paid for uh and they just go around they just direct this tent with a few uh fences uh and a security section and uh yeah they just do a festival and i i like the idea of it um it was relatively well attended relatively well resourced when it comes to the bar
Starting point is 00:08:40 and stuff it was it was people just want to hear the great songs right i get it exactly yeah and and to be honest i guess with bands like kasabian there aren't it's the sort of thing you're not going to be able to hear a track from uh the second album uh played by you know you're not going to hear the food fighters do tracks like this is a call you're not going to nobody's going to cover those songs really are they and most of pulp's uvra as well so it's quite nice i think maybe there is a bit of value to hearing a pulp tribute act over a guns and roses tribute act because you're always going to hear guns and roses tracks covered by every wedding band going surely i know what you mean and i mean for me the main barrier is that pulp are dreadful um so that's why i don't want to hear them but i
Starting point is 00:09:19 take the i'm only saying that partly because they're your favourite band. But can I also just ask, so I told you before that my cousin is the country's premier Kate Bush tribute. Okay. But she also plays Stevie Nicks in a big fleet with Mac tribute band. Yes, okay, yeah. And I've obviously seen her at various family functions over the years. And she just says it's almost a bit like an acting job, right? It's just great fun.
Starting point is 00:09:42 You get to be someone else. She's a really great, talented musician and singer. So I don't think she's got any insecurity about whether, oh, no, no one wants to hear my own original compositions. She's just having a great time and getting paid really fucking well. But she said something interesting to me. What happens is, unless you're doing a really, really big band, you are kind of taking a bit of a gamble.
Starting point is 00:10:07 So even Fleetwood Mac, and particularly Kate Bush, they kind of go in and out of fashion. I know Fleetwood Mac are obviously huge, and maybe that's a poor example. But Kate Bush, for example, she said that now she's booked up to the rest of the year, solid, because of Stranger Things. Just doing the one song over and over again. Well, that's what people want to hear,
Starting point is 00:10:25 but it's almost serving as a reminder. People are not just going, oh, Running Up That Hill's amazing. They're going, fucking hell, Kate Bush is good, isn't she? And so it becomes a lot more, she becomes a lot more kind of in the public eye because of it. I think it's a cool thing. I'm not going to, I probably would have
Starting point is 00:10:42 been really snobby about it when I was a kid because I was really, you know, felt, I kind of felt like i was really passionate about my music and stuff but i mean once you get over all that cringy stuff um you realize that people are just there to have a good time but the atmosphere is fucking great i bet you haven't got to sit through listen mate you go and see kasabian now and i think that new stuff sounds actually sounds quite good but you go and see kasabian now you are gonna have to sit through four or five songs at least that you've never heard heard before on their new album before you hear the stuff you want to hear, right?
Starting point is 00:11:09 With that, you ain't going to have to do that, are you? Well, I mean, it was interesting that they still had a Tom, obviously, because Tom was obviously fighting for the band. What a hot potato. That guy must have been gutted to hear what happened. He must have been like, do I have to leave the band now? But it kind of reminded me that Tom's delivery on the songs, it's almost a bit like UK Garage, would that be fair to say?
Starting point is 00:11:31 Like an MC? Yeah. Because he sort of goes, I've been technical. You know what I mean? He's sort of like, he's just a bit like, come on, come on, kind of guy, more than actually singing. What are you doing there?
Starting point is 00:11:45 I don't know. What do you mean? I tell you what, kind of guy, more than actually singing, which I kind of forgot. What are you doing there? I don't know. What do you mean? I tell you what, another highlight was seeing a man dressed like Jarvis Cocker with the glasses, with the suit and that, on a really hot day,
Starting point is 00:11:56 just deciding to sing song two at one point. Fuck this. Fuck this. I've done my contractually contractually obliged fucking minuteage I'm doing song 2 yeah
Starting point is 00:12:09 it was really good also I also feel the pressure to be a Jarvis Cocker would be real because he's so skinny oh what you'd have to maintain
Starting point is 00:12:16 yeah if you put on any kind of weight yeah that's a good point actually if I'm if I was Axl Rose in the tribute band
Starting point is 00:12:24 I'd be very happy because Axl's put on quite a lot of beef if he starts losing weight I'm, if I'm, um, if I was Axl Rose in the tribute band, I'd be very happy because Axl's put on quite a lot of beef. If he starts losing weight, I'm not here for that. But I suppose maybe they want to be, they want to be classic era,
Starting point is 00:12:33 don't they? Primal, yeah. Yeah, like the classic era kind of thing. But, um, fun. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:38 great stuff. It sounds, it sounds pretty cool. Sounds pretty interesting. Yeah, it was a really good laugh. I, how much was the ticket,
Starting point is 00:12:44 by the way? Uh, I think it was about 40 good laugh i how much was the ticket by the way uh i think it's about 40 quid but all day yeah i mean i guess the thing uh and the bays weren't too bad either um the um uh i think finn producer finn uh tried to buy tickets to go and see bruce springsteen minimum uh i think was 500 quid in birmingham 500 because he's got that sliding scale thing the more rare the tickets are the more expensive they become
Starting point is 00:13:09 which is just obscene for most people for a man who spends all his time singing about the plight of the working classes he's a little bit forlorn
Starting point is 00:13:16 but I don't I don't actually know I suppose if you're Bruce Springsteen you probably have got quite a lot of power over that stuff but generally speaking
Starting point is 00:13:23 so I remember obviously not trying to compare us to Bruce Springsteen other than that have got quite a lot of power over that stuff. But generally speaking, so I remember, obviously not trying to compare us to Bruce Springsteen, other than that we're both working class heroes as well. When we did Ramble Live, I don't remember us getting a huge amount of say in the ticket price because you get asked your opinion and you sort of try and say that you don't want people to be ripped off and stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:42 But other than that, you don't really get a huge amount of power. And I also wonder how it works with that type of stuff because i mean the example i would use would be the rolling stones because my mum said to me about six months ago that the one band she'd never seen because she used to go see live music all the time that she wanted to see was the rolling stones and i saw they were playing at high park so i was like look i'll get it as a surprise for her so i ended up having to take the whole family because I think that's probably only fair. I can't leave the old man out. Don't want to leave the family out.
Starting point is 00:14:08 So I end up buying, I think, six tickets for Rolling Stones at Hyde Park. I mean, I'm not exaggerating when I say I think it was between 800 and a grand. Right, okay, yeah. And that's just to get in the door. And bearing in mind all the sponsors they've got as well, Pete.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Yeah. And that only gets you in the door. It doesn't get you anything. Yeah, that is... And that was just to get in the door. And bearing in mind all the sponsors they've got as well, Pete. Yeah. And that only gets you in the door. It doesn't get you anything. Yeah, that is. And that was the cheapest tickets that were still available. I think they were, yeah, I think they were like 100, I can't exactly remember, but I think they were 150 each, I think. That's pretty horrific, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:14:38 That's pretty wild. I mean, obviously, being too sentimental about it, all the money I've got, I've fucking earned myself, so people can have their own opinion on that and keep it to themselves. It was amazing to see my mum enjoy it so much, and the rest of my family. I can't put a price on that kind of experience.
Starting point is 00:14:54 But at the same time, I realise I'm fortunate. I realise there are plenty of people out there who might love the rhinestones, and will never get a chance to see them, because that is just too expensive. And you're not even factored in the idea that my parents stayed at a hotel that loads of people who went there would have been coming from outside london yeah um and they don't even let you bring your own booze in do you
Starting point is 00:15:13 know i mean it's like a big cabal really yeah yeah massively massively i was watching the documentary for uh woodstock woodstock 99 it's brilliant that documentary really fun stuff we're just really fun stuff i mean you kind of forget that like a lot of uh i mean obviously most of it's horrific but um just the uh the people who are sort of running it just telling lies just talking absolute i'd love to do a deep dive on that let's have a quick break and come back and we'll talk about that in detail because i've seen that as well i think it's fucking brilliant i think our listeners will really enjoy um hearing about it so let's and come back and we'll talk about that in detail because I've seen that as well and I think it's fucking brilliant. I think our listeners will really enjoy hearing about it.
Starting point is 00:15:46 So let's take a break and we'll come back. Alright, cool. We're back with the Luke and Pete show and we're talking all things Woodstock 99.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Were you there? We weren't. Wow, imagine if one of our listeners was there. I know. Well, there's a very good chance that
Starting point is 00:15:58 that might have happened, I suppose. Right sort of ballpark age-wise you would imagine some of them. Yeah, I would have been 18 at the time and by the way
Starting point is 00:16:06 before I go into it if you are listening if you're one of those people that only listens for new battery brands we will come to that in a minute we'll do that before we go I would have been 18 at the time I went to
Starting point is 00:16:16 Glastonbury 98 so I was definitely kind of deemed by my family old enough to go I mean when I'm 18 I guess I'm legally an adult so i could
Starting point is 00:16:25 have gone anyway but what i loved about that documentary pete and for those who haven't seen it it's a three-parter it's on netflix it's called train wreck i think it's brilliant it's much better than the bill simmons one the ringer one which was also pretty good but this one's better um and um what i loved about it and i hope this isn't too high-minded for you is that it was about a music festival ostensibly but actually it you is that it was about a music festival ostensibly but actually it's nothing really to do with the music festival at all by the end of it is it it's just about the fallout of just a load of bros smashing the shit out of uh smashing the shit out of a festival site it kind of reminded it basically a lot of the bands that were playing
Starting point is 00:17:02 over the weekend were uh over time let's say your corns your little biscuits stuff like that and i remember being around that time and i probably felt the exact same way as a lot of the lads in that crowd felt that it kind of you know you helped you express yourself a little bit uh the anger is you know it's a little bit punk rock is a bit like oh fucking yes this is so good yes um but as with anything like that it always spills over into mega violence when you've got a weekend uh a really hot weekend where everyone's hot uh bottles of water are ten dollars a pop uh and everyone's drunk and angry and on drugs and they just want to see the world burn effectively because the music of the time was very testosterone-y, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:17:45 It was kind of like, you don't want to blame the bands, but there was a lot of that kind of thing about, like there was just every fucker in that documentary, every bloke. I don't think they used their hands all the way through the festival because they were constantly in the
Starting point is 00:17:59 fuck you, up yours configuration. Absolutely constantly through the whole thing. I found it almost like it was almost scientific in its detail on how to piss a group of young men off. And that's not to excuse the behaviour of them because they chose to behave that way. So, I mean, the responsibility, of course, lies with them. And, you know, I think you also need to probably differentiate
Starting point is 00:18:33 between the horrific attitude towards women and the way that a lot of women who attended that festival who have absolutely exactly the same amount of right to be there as any man does, how they were treated, which was abysmal. exactly the same amount of right to be there as any man does and how they were treated which was abysmal um but put that to one side because that's kind of non-negotiable really the other stuff the breaking of things the setting fire to things the kind of almost like overwhelming rejection of what they felt like that festival had become as a reflection of what wider society has become is really interesting from an anthropological point of view because basically what you're saying is if you put
Starting point is 00:19:11 a load of fucking adolescent men through to kind of young adult men in that environment and as you say you turn the heat up quite literally you give them a load of aggressive music to listen to you reduce the facilities to a point where they're so expensive it becomes essentially like an ersatz lord of the flies and see what happens yeah and what happens is actually quite frightening when you think about how thin the veneer of civility and society can be right like it's for those who haven't seen it it's a very well publicized story so i don't think there's any kind of apology for spoilers it starts off with a load of quite well-intentioned staff i mean the owners i think have a lot to answer for uh the staff start off quite well-intentioned quite excited and end up
Starting point is 00:19:54 literally barricading themselves in their own buildings because they think they're going to be potentially ripped to pieces or set on fire by an unruly, angry mob, right? Yeah. And the thing I found particularly egregious, apart from the guys who exhibited that behaviour, who deserve the majority of the blame, the guys who ran it, they can't try to pass the blame in every direction possible, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:18 You can't... The Fred Durst thing, Fred Durst got a lot of stick for that. And I think, personally, I think Fred Durst is probably a complete dickhead, right? put my cars on the table don't know him he seems like a cunt he probably is one but my point is you know what you're getting right you don't bring fred durst into this studio for example do a show with him and then complain that he's fred durst like he's always going to be like that he's always going to do songs like break stuff he's always
Starting point is 00:20:41 going to i mean every single without exception i, every single... Without exception, I think, every single Limp Bizkit song is diabolical. Right? Absolutely inexcusably diabolical. I'm taking umbrage with all this. I might give you a pass on that one they did for Take a Look Around for the Mission Impossible soundtrack,
Starting point is 00:21:00 which I think is actually probably fair enough. What have you got against that Pink Floyd song with Rock from Stained? Oh, the lyrics of some Limp Bizkit songs, man. It's just like you're trying to be bad. You're trying to make a song that is almost deliberately bad and seeing if people will still buy into it.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And they do. They do. Luke, it's just one of those days when you just want to break stuff. Yeah. The only people who come out of it in terms of performers of any credit are Bush and Sheryl Crow, right? I guess so.
Starting point is 00:21:30 But it's just funny that Korn were sub-headlining. They were on before Bush on the Friday night. You forget how big Bush were in the US at that point. You really do. Because they were never that big over here even, hilariously. But it was just hilarious that they come on and they had to do their big song first. Well, I found it remarkable, Pete,
Starting point is 00:21:53 the evident of you with Gavin Rossdale, of course, lead singer of Bush, who says, like, I was watching Corn Set from backstage, and he says something like, I realised straight away that ultimately my first priority was to calm the crowd down. You're probably quite looking forward to it.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Headline of the festival with Woodstock above the door. Great, I'll get my family down. It's going to be amazing. It's not amazing. Everything's on fire. So you need to go out there
Starting point is 00:22:16 and do a ballad. Yeah, it's an incredible watch. But everything, it just made me laugh because it was just like everything, like every bit of music,
Starting point is 00:22:24 every sort of popular bit of music then was just so fucking heteronormative kind of testosterone-y and like it's the same time
Starting point is 00:22:32 that you had like your Southparks and WWE was in its attitude era and it was like fucking fucking fuck you you know
Starting point is 00:22:39 I won't do what you tell me kind of rage sort of stuff and it was just I forgot how fucking rank it all was like awful it's dated so badly very very dead and and um i totally i totally agree i think i think um the the reaction to how people felt they're being treated by society at that time particularly
Starting point is 00:22:56 america the kind of precursor to the america left behind if you like which is you know which is talked about a lot now as well i suppose as justification for some of the behavior the unacceptable behavior that happens in american society and here to be fair um but what what you forget is that how machismo it was and how as you say heteronormative and how testosterone fueled and how almost like it's essentially you know it's a very white movement isn't it that And you've got the whole Kid Rock element to it as well. Kid Rock is basically a southern tourist, really. He's from a very affluent background from up near Detroit, I believe. And he's really bought into that kind of subculture
Starting point is 00:23:39 and really become a tourist and really a kind of ambassador for it. But ultimately, it's all bracketed up and and really kind of ambassador for it but ultimately it's all bracketed up and all this kind of quite quite kind of below the radar racist nonsense really yeah um but i do think there's more to it than that in that case i think i think i think the way it just descended and went so far south it was unbelievable i mean you literally you got red hot chili peppers by the time they come on they're looking out over the festival site and it's just on fire. I mean, it's literally,
Starting point is 00:24:05 it's literally on fire. I mean, it's just like, I mean, Kid Rock, like a lot of these people who, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:13 claim to represent the underclass in America, they're carpetbaggers. Yeah, of course. Like that's all fucking Kid Rock does and he's kind of got
Starting point is 00:24:20 his identity now and it's just, good God. And also, the music's not even fucking good. I know it's a subjective judgment, but like, it's just good god and also the music's not even fucking good i know it's a subjective judgment but like it's just not even good like i i i would kind of i wouldn't forgive any of the fucking shit he comes out with because he's a complete prick but if the
Starting point is 00:24:35 music was good he was like genuinely like an artist it's almost a bit okay you're doing your bit you know i mean i i do have i do have an idea that certainly not when it comes to kind of race relations and stuff but i do have an idea that, certainly not when it comes to race relations and stuff, but I do have an idea that a lot of artists, look at your fucking Axl Rose, you know what I mean? He is a fucking artist. He's not like the rest of us.
Starting point is 00:24:52 He's not supposed to be like the rest of us, right? I mean, Kid Rock's basically trying to do Axl Rose, but not even doing any good songs. No, no. So anyway,
Starting point is 00:25:00 but people like it. They liked it then, they like it now. He's been talking about running for president again. Great. I love that that's just a thing They like it now. He's been talking about running for president again. Great. I love that. That's just a thing in America, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:25:09 That's run for president. Bit bald, run for president. Every rock star after a certain age has got to have a crack at that then. Lovely. But that kind of perceived, put upon white rage slash anger that manifests itself in that thing
Starting point is 00:25:24 almost 25 years ago now. That's not gone away. Say again? It's queuing on now, isn't it? Yeah, it's not gone away. I mean, I think sadly we're going to see an awful lot more of it in the coming years, I'm afraid. But anyway, it's a brilliant documentary.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Like I said, it's a documentary that starts out as being about a music festival, ends up being about all as all the best documentaries do it ends up answering asking and answering far bigger questions about the human condition i think if that's not too high-minded i think to say it's definitely worth watching if you've got a netflix subscription which i'm led to believe is absolutely everyone by the way peter on that um you know that disney plus have got more subscribers than netflix already yeah they sort of overtook yeah i wonder what is it just Star Wars? How have they managed to sort of claim that?
Starting point is 00:26:06 You know Disney's quite big. Yeah, but how have they managed to sort of, I mean, I'm trying to think the shows I've watched on Disney Plus and I think there's only,
Starting point is 00:26:13 it might actually be Hulu that's the only murders in the building. I don't know. Yeah, but it's all those Disney movies and all those Disney characters and stuff, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:26:20 It's just a bit of a haymoth, isn't it? It's probably that dog, that really middle of the road kids film where that dog punches that bloke do you remember it's probably just that really
Starting point is 00:26:30 probably people watching that all over again that's where it went viral and everyone just said I'm going to pay for that I'm fucking paying for it it's the first meme I'm ever going to pay for
Starting point is 00:26:37 shall we do batteries before we go Peter let's do a quick bit of battery action yeah lovely old job if you found a battery in a bit of like an old head torch that your dad's got inexplicably three of next to next to his
Starting point is 00:26:48 computer unexplained worryingly so uh just open up and have a look uh if there's an interesting battery brand in there we want to hear from you and the you know it did there seems no there's no signs of any of this slowing so there must be just an unlimited uh rate of battery brands out there uh hi chaps i'm staying'm staying overnight in London for a job interview and I obviously opened up the remote to see what delights are inside. Chris, are these Ativa Alkaline new players? Ativa, Ativa Alkaline new players.
Starting point is 00:27:16 A-T-I-V-A. They are the only batteries with that name posted into our email inbox. That is a new player, Chris. I've always been fascinated by people who've got a name Chris, but with no H in it. It's nice, isn't it? I don't think I've ever met anyone like that.
Starting point is 00:27:30 So thanks for getting in touch, Chris. You have entered a new player into the game. Well done, you. Yeah, indeed. Colin has come in with maybe a new player. I've not heard of this one before. Introducing Sagittar. Sagittar is amazing.
Starting point is 00:27:44 So is that Colin, yeah? Yeah, Colin. Came with an outdoor gas fire pit, but I didn't trust the quality. As you can see, they're a little battered, so I used the trusted Duracell in the actual equipment. Thanks for the laughs, Colin. I'm trying to sort of figure out
Starting point is 00:27:56 where you would put a battery in a gas fire pit. Maybe just for the ignition, possibly? Yeah, probably. Sadly, Colin, you are the third person to send in sagittar first person to do it was andrew who sent it in on uh new year's eve 2020 yeah he had nothing on um email came in about 5 p.m as well so he was uh nice oh actually to be fair to him he's five hours behind he's in massachusetts so it's lunchtime probably just gearing up for the big celebrations and our friend george also sent in Sagittars around December of last year.
Starting point is 00:28:28 So you're only the third person to send those in, Colin, but thank you for trying. I see. All right, finally for now, Alex Coleman has come in with a battery selection from quite possibly the most distressing child's toy of all time, a chainsaw. Hey, trees need to be cut, baby. It's just a great message. Found a pair of high watt batteries in a charles chainsaw toy are they new players should kids have chainsaw toys probably not
Starting point is 00:28:51 i'm not qualified to answer the second one no but the first one is i'm afraid to say nowhere near a new player um it's been sent in i don't know how many times but it's at least in double figure so that's a no so one out of three this week. Unlucky. Look, I'm just glad we got one. I think there's weeks where we haven't had any and that sucks, but I'm just glad
Starting point is 00:29:11 we got one this week. Justifies the feature. It certainly does. All right then, let's wrap up this show. We'll be back on Monday morning for more Luke and Pete Show fun. If you'd like to get in touch
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