The Luke and Pete Show - Peter, it’s Paella Time

Episode Date: February 9, 2026

Mr Donaldson’s just got in from another European trip, this time to the land of tapas and seashell-adorned buildings. Today’s topics include punctuation, close calls with rental car companies and the death of the Metaverse. Plus, loads of limestone might be cheaper than you think.Send us your best stories, questions and comments here: [e-mail]. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the Luca Pitchell, with me, Pete Donaldson, and Mr. Makes Exceedingly Good Kicks, Muir. How are you doing? That's me. I'm all right, thanks. I've got a little username on my log-in, which is Mr. Kipling, because we were talking about Mr. Kipping on the Ramble this last week,

so I thought I'd lean into it. Any particular favourite, Mr. Kipling? I like his French fancies, which is so euphemistically kind of, you just know for a fact that nobody, is thinking they're in any way fancy by wearing themselves French fancies. I reckon when they first were launched they were probably seen as quite fancy

and quite continental like a chicken Kiev. Yeah, absolutely. But it's just too generic French. Yeah, popular cultures overtaken them now. Yeah, you may as well just call them European pissabouts.

European, European twattery. You know what I mean? French fancies. It's too generic. It doesn't describe what it actually is. No, it's not that French. Speaking of continental Europe, though, you're fresh off the plane, aren't you? I'm continental strength, yeah.

I walk up in Barcelona under the shadows of... That was planned, right? Yeah, it wasn't planned. It wasn't going on an incredible bender that got me to Barcelona, which... To be fair, if I was going to go on a bender, I'd definitely be going to and from South End Airport, because with only two flights a day, they really do throw you through security quickly. How is that airport still functioning? Two fights a day?

How is that sustainable business model? I don't know. I mean, certainly the terminal building is just, it's made of the same thing that a few soft play area, sort of off arterial road factory buildings seem to be sort of built out of. It's very sort of, it's very rudimentary. But, I mean, you don't even have to take your stuff out your bags. You can keep your laptop and your liquids in, and it's just all.

I think they just sort of try new stuff out at South Bend Airport. I think they changed the liquids rule recently, didn't they? It depends on what x-ray machines they've got, I believe. Right. So where's the other flight going? So South End is serving, Barcelona and where else only? I think on season you get a little bit of Amsterdam. You might get a little bit of a cheeky bit of cornwall sometimes.

And I think you might get some faro as well. But the only place in February it seems to be going is the old Barcelona. So I took advantage of that And can't recommend it enough I was in I was off the bloody flight In my house within half an hour Would have been quicker but I took a wrong turning That's brilliant

That is really good And did you It was a nice time had by all Because I always felt like bars I always prefer Madrid to Barcelona I would say Do you not think Madrid is a bit more industrial

Very much like a Milan To Naples I just felt it was a bit more interesting And I'm not really a beach guy So I don't really care that Barcelona's got a beach. And I thought Barcelona was a bit pickpockety. Yeah, but I mean, that's kind of... Is that not part for the course in Kyr Starmers, London is Starm?

Is that not weird? Are we not sort of used to that? He can't tell her response to believe of Barcelona as well. He's too busy fishing rakes out of his face. Sorry for the buzzing, by the way, in the background. That's a bit, Vishihansaraja keeps texting me. Oh, yeah, okay. What's he doing? Some personal admin?

Talking to me about TV series, but also. invite me for a beer with you and him tomorrow but I don't want to you're not going to do it why not I think so no well it's scared well yeah I'm part of it's 50% that I'm scared and 50% that I wasn't planning on being in town tomorrow it is it is hard to plan a putch with the person you're planning against it really is difficult but I mean what I would just say is don't take the time to plan a push me just tell me just tell me I'll just assume I'm constantly planning a push yeah I'm not going to fight it you could just just just

Just tell me. He's ever so putchable. Oh, yeah. He'd say he's unputchable, but he's not. He's putchable. You don't need to go to those lengths, is what I'm saying. Don't worry about it. What time are you going on the pub tomorrow?

Pouch me, punch me, I want to feel your body. I don't know. It was supposed to be just a bit of lunch, but that's what we said last time, and we ended up having a few beers. All right. Well, I'll keep a watching brief on it. I'm actually, I'm really flattered to be invited.

Second time of asking. No, you didn't invite me the first time. We didn't invite me the first time. We didn't invite me the first time. No, you didn't. We did indeed invite you the first time. Let me tell the listeners what happened. I was in the office.

You and Vish were going for a bit of lunch and a beer. You felt a bit awkward that you were doing it. And I was there. So you were like, oh, you can come if you want. That's not the same thing as an invite. We didn't know who's going to be in at that time. So you were in. So you got the input.

I'm just saying, use the technology. Send the message. Send the message. We're going for a beer. He wants to come. Throw a flag up the flag. You've got a form for this. Like you said to me before, I said, I've never been invited to your house.

Did you invite any time? Come whenever you want. That's not how it works. It's not an invitation, is it? That's what I'm saying. Pouch me. That's what you're saying. What pub are you going to?

I don't know. Probably the one around the corner owned by Madonna's ex-partner. Oh, Lord of the Land. Was I just singing Madonna as well? Touch me, touch me, I want for you your body. Is that on Madonna? No, no. I thought that was a beautiful bit of synergy there.

I'll check you, that is. Accidentally did. That is... Surely at some point, Madonna asked someone to touch me on a few. Oh, Samantha Fox. someone to touch their body. Samantha Fox, it was. Not really in the same league as Madonna.

Both great pop stars. Right? Did she ever host to the Brits? Both iconoclasts. I mean, surely at some point, Madonna has demanded someone touch her. Like, that's kind of her later kind of like 1990s forward kind of stuff. The whole 90s. The whole 90s.

Anyone she met in the 90s, I would say, is the answer to that. No, I wouldn't call that for. More power to her. More power to her. More power to her. So what did you get up to him, Barthalon? Who were you with, the fam? The fam?

Yeah, it was good. Craig and Alex as well? Craig and Alex, yeah. Craig's too busy with Epstein files, and he's downloaded the whole torrent and he's gone through. Yeah, I saw him doing a control F search for a peptobismole. He's too busy. He's basically taking the whole weekend.

He's downloaded the whole lot and he's just finding stuff that I would find interesting, but nobody else. Whereas everybody else is looking for references to, you know, Richard Branson and Deepak Chopra, but I am, he's basically looking for references to the amount of pepdobismal. And the thing that you sort of notice about, a lot of the ones he's pulled out, he spent a lot of time. I mean, it's a mendent that he did all this on email anyway.

But he spent a lot of times as well, though, isn't it? I think it's text as well, right, okay. Well, a lot of, like, men of a certain age and certain influence really did get away with no niceties on their emails at all. Just literally, somebody writes an email, It's the one on Peptobismal. He basically says, oh, my guts are killing me.

I didn't even have any water. I didn't even drink the water. My guts are killing me. And the late, less than great man writes, Pepto Bismol, stop. And that's the whole email. There's no whole email. There's no whole email.

No punctuation. And some of the punctuation, I don't know what there's like an OCR thing. Like it's been converted from one system to another and these kind of errant dots. And I'd be furious if I died and people were looking at my emails. and, you know, sort of saying, why can't this man write in full sentences? I think, I think, if my, if my mother saw a leak of all my comic communication after I die,

I mean, I'm not suggesting that it would be of this nature, but it's just the general flotsman jets from my life in communication. It'd be about the same as, as me, by the bismore with me, I would say. I'm always talking about it. I expect so, yeah. Yeah. But then, like, some kind of conversion file format error had meant there was no punctuation in it. She'd be so upset with me. devastated.

Absolutely. Yeah, she would. My mum was a real stickler for that when I was growing up. Yeah, exactly. That's why I'm annoyingly like it. So you didn't go with, Craig and Al didn't tag along then, no? It's just a church and state thing, never the twain shall meet. I just don't think there's much for them in the Airbnb that was staying in.

Because, I'll tell you why, it's much better than any other Airbnb that was. For example, one Airbnb cost. for a few days, cost approaching a grand. And the one, as discussed, I've rented out for the Moldova trip in a few weeks time, for three nights, is, I think, £200 in total for four people. So it's like, it's a very different situation, and I don't think they'd get the most out of it, to be honest. But that said... The last trip you did was to France, and you had that steak tartar, right? survived to tell the tell.

Yeah. Some people survived some replies. You want me to go through a couple? Because I shared the photo of the, well, producer Bruno shared the photo of the steak tartar in France on the Leucumpeat show, Twitter. And some of the feedback I saw was, has he eaten this and spewed it up again? It does look. Yeah, it does look pretty chewed. Why does it look like tinned ravioli?

It looked a little bit like me, gravest. Marr's famed egg and tomato sandwich sort of filling she would make that looked like sick. Disappointing. Did you have any good food in Barcelona? Presumably there was some tapas. Had a bit of tapas, yeah. Spent a lot of time. I Uber ate a good old amount of tapas from a tapas place and sat down with this massive tray of,

what's that inky black fucking paella you get where the fucking squirt? It's just squid ink paella, isn't it? Squiddink paella, in it. I don't know. And a bit of squid on top and stuff. It was just a massive tray. It was absolutely massive. I only managed to eat half of it.

And, yeah, it was just, I'd just go with Sangria with Prosecco or Carver. Sangri with Carver. That's a bit of me, that. Sounds just a bit like an apparel sprit. Well, it doesn't have the bitterness, I suppose, an aprol sprit, isn't it? But it's just a sweeter, maybe it's a sweeter. Pete, do you remember when we were in, you know, we got on that jolly to Monorca, you and I.

And we had that, and a chef came to the villa, and he cooked that big paella. He did. Did you ever? Because you ever, people were so however they couldn't have it. I had loads of it. I had loads of it. It was delicious. Did you have some? I'll eat paella any day and any time of the day.

I'd get up in, if somebody, like, you know, um, nuzzled into my neck at 3am and said, Peter, it's paella time. I'll be, I will be up before I've been walking up. my legs will be working. Like a cartoon dog like I sleep following your nose following the steam of the foot. I'll be floating down

with me a winky costume on down the stairs right into the paella, lovely. Well, it's the, I would say if you don't mind me saying Peter, it's the hallmark of a confident traveller ordering deliverer in another country in another language.

Oh right, okay. Yeah, but you just put it at your front door, don't you? I made a real... Oh, so you didn't meet the delivery driver. You weren't giving that a kind of chow-cha, Come on stas, Amigo? No, no. Do you do that with Uber Eats usually?

Do you that deliver over time? I have to go down and give me a code normally. Yeah, yeah, that's fine. That's fine. The, I did, uh, do that four power where, you know what? Very old buildings have very old lifts in buildings. It was basically, the manual lift type thing. It was basically next to the basilica.

And, um, the, it's one of those things where like, there's a door. Yeah, there's a, there's a door. And then there's two doors. And then you get in the lift and the lift looks like it's, It's needlessly wooden in these days. It's needlessly made of wood. And you've got to close both doors or else the lift doesn't work for anyone else in the apartment.

And an old lady came down and told me off for not closing the door. In Spanish? Yeah, completely in Spanish. And I said sorry, completely in, sorry. The word sorry, said nothing else. Sorry. Did you, were you with the part that you have access to and the daughter you have access to?

Yes. And how was travelling with the total are good? It's fine, yeah. I mean, two hours and not that much travel either side. It was all right. Oh, I got away with scratching a rental car. Yes. You bastard, because I got absolutely stung for that once.

Got away with it. Thank you. I can't remember who they were, but Avon or Nova or something. Some kind of easy adjacent rental car company. Oh, he did a little scrape-s scrape. And I gave it back, and they had a look. And they said, yep, good. I went, yep, good.

See you later. Could not have got that fast enough. they probably get your deposit on file though so they'll probably listen to this and they'll tax you well it did that wonderful thing where they go right do you want to pay do you want to hold on 1,000 200 on your account or do you want

a 200 on your account because if you pay a little bit more that's how you get the ticket we won't take that much it's basically for people who don't have you know a lot of liquidity or a massive overdraft or whatever you know and a massive imposing overdraft

don't worry everyone I've got a massive actually over draft. And, and, and, and, and they sort of, um, say, uh, and, um, and so they go, you can, you can, if you don't want to pay the huge amount, um, you can pay it a smaller amount, but it will cost you a little bit more. I say, all right, well, okay. And they go, well, did, um, have you got a visa credit card to put this on? I was like, what? The visa credit card. And, and I'm like, well, no, I don't have a visa credit. I've got American Express and I've got a visa debit card and they won't let you use either to do the larger amount because as discussed I've got a

massive overdraft they make you pay a bit more for the smaller amount on your account and right just absolutely trick me into paying a bit more in the US you kind of get everything covered you basically hire the car it's fairly expensive they try and up up because the apparently the real value is you get your own insurance for a higher car which is just that's But they never check whether you scratch it or dente or anything in my experience. I've hired about five cars in the EU and this in New England. Four in New England and maybe one or two in the south. And they never seem to check that shit.

They just, they're just, it's all comprehensively covered by the look of it. I don't know why they're bothering Barcelona because there aren't any lines on the floor. And it's all pretty much whoever gets to the line first. It seems to be the rules on those roads. But yeah. Bloody foreigners. Bloody foreigners. But, yeah, they, about,

Apparently, is it Aves or six? One of the big ones, they've started using this kind of, like, you drive onto this platform, and they flash a light. And it's basically like, you know, when people do, like, dent removal, they have, like, these mad kind of lights that are black and white, like whites with, like, black sort of silhouettes on them. So you can basically see the curve of the car, the natural curve of the car, which exposes any imperfections.

And you drive, when you take the car, you drive onto this platform, it takes a big picture all around the car, and then it uses AI to figure out whether you've done anything to it by the end of the trip. That's clever. It's annoyingly strict and accurate. Yeah. I think I prefer the system, which is a Saturday lad who's stoned out of his head, doesn't really want to get out of his chair, has a little look through like some proper stoned eyes and goes, yeah, that's fine.

That's fine, bro. Turn up dark. Wait until at last six when it gets dark. And then turn up, maybe throw a bit of water on that. There's no manager in. Yeah, maybe throw a bit of water on the place that the problem happened. So the droplets disguise, which is what I did. And yeah, everything's come here.

I had a situation once where we were with my son for the first time. They make you put your own car seat in. Right. I guess for like insurance purposes or whatever. It was just for safety reasons. Interesting. And we were taking, and it was a car seat style that we'd never seen before. And our son was only like six months old at the time.

We're like, fucking, what we're going to do here? Right, we can't get this in. And the guy was like, I'm not allowed to help you put it in under like Massachusetts state law. I can't do it for you. Right, that makes sense. Yeah, and we're like, okay, fine, whatever. Is that like you can't pump your own gas in Massachusetts? It's like, no, it's not Massachusetts.

I think that was in Rhode Island for a while. I don't know that's still the case. But anyway, but the problem, the thing. was right, the Giza Roo said, oh, I'm not allowed to do this for you, was so stoned. It was like, as if I'm going to let you put a car seat in the car for my son.

He was like, it was like, bro, listen, man, I can't, there's no way I can put this in for it. It's not allowed. Like, it was some kind of lost to organize. It's not allowed by my body. It's not a lost, mate. I'd rather stay here for fucking two days straight trying to work this out and let you put it in. Eventually, my wife, the Wi-Fi of access to was able to work it out. But it was getting quite stressful

because we've been travelling for a long old time, and You need to get the boy, when he's that age, you need to get him home. Yeah. But anyway, yeah. All right, should we have a break? Gaffshould. Yes, please. We're back in a minute.

We're back with the Lug & Pete Show. I'm joined by Mr. Luka Moore. And we're doing the Luka Show. It's what we do every, you know, Monday and Thursday. We have a good old time doing it as well. You're the main host and you always say you're joined by me. Like it's like, it's a rotational thing. Hmm.

You got annoyed that it was a Luke and Pete's show, not the Pete and Luke Show. I didn't get annoyed. I think once again you have pretended. You've thought of a funny idea, me being annoyed, and you've applied it. It doesn't apply to. I just think that the general public... And relying on my forgetfulness not to challenge you.

I think the general public overestimate how angry I get, and they massively underestimate how angry you, Pete and Jim get. Right, okay. I never really gets angry, does he? No, no. Well, I mean, I don't think I really get angry anymore, do I? I think people think of you as just like a lovable eccentric. If Marcus is the world's nicest guy and Jim is really benign and kind of chill.

Yeah. And me is a complete hunt. Whereas actually, there's like there's a middle ground between those things. That's all right, then, isn't it? I'm just saying, you do get annoyed sometimes. But the variable is very much you being involved, isn't it? Do you know what I mean? No. I don't think so.

He seems like a lovable block when he's not. George was Luke. No, I think it's like, we will like Luke when he does everything for us and then the moment he doesn't do anything for us, he gets a fucking stick. That's what it is. Oh, right, okay.

That's what the Epstein leak of our emails would say. I'm just a big bag of gasoline and you are a loose flame. Do you fair, you haven't lost the plot that recently. You used to be a lot more volatile. I never did lose it. Yeah, because I had to, because I didn't understand that none of this matters.

I used to think that it mattered. I used to think this was important. And now I'm like, yeah, I mean, we haven't died in 10 years, so it's fine, in it really? Everything's fine. True. That's true. You've probably come the closest to dying, I'd say.

Well, I mean, just general drowning and asthma attacks, yeah. It's just kind of just... How is the asthma, by the way? You're in a bit of a state, you know, there? Still shit. Is it bad? Is it bad? Is it bad?

Didn't stop be going on the holiday, though? No, no, better. Thought it might be better. How was the attitude? With the, yeah, with the, I mean, yeah, going up to that, Gaudy, fuck me. Like, he, he just, if he had access to more, like, massive seashells, he'd put him on everything, I think. He just looks, like, I know he had his, you know, he had basically 10 years where everyone thought he's brilliant. Then everyone thought he was utter kit shit.

And then he's a genius again. Now, I still look at a lot of his stuff and go, he got away with the lot of shit, I would say. A real lot of mess. The Sigrada Familia is actually going to be finished this year, isn't it? Is it actually? That's what they said. For a bloody second. It's been last time I went about 15 years ago, it would look like in pretty much the same state.

But they are nearing the top, I suppose. It seems to be... It's quite cool that they're still doing it. It is quite cool. It's funny because one side is like black with, you know, car emissions. The other side is quite clean. So hopefully they can give it a little clean before they leave. So it's been, it's been, it started construction in 1882.

Mm. Yeah. And they're still, they're still stuck to it. Like, at no point if they go, well, we're just mothballing that. It's too big and too tall. Because Garland died in 1926, apparently. Yeah. It's quite interesting that, like, they've stuck at a project,

a construction project for 140-odd years. Yeah. Especially because, like, a lot of, presumably a lot of the, you know, they must have, like, iterated the kind of construction a little bit. I mean, the actual habit was built at the bottom must be very different to how it's being built at the top, let's say. Well, materials and stuff like that. Well, it's certainly different kind of like, because presumably you'd have to sort of work to much higher standards of kind of public safety. Because, you know, people are up there, like mooching around.

The weirdest thing is how they manage to kind of balance cranes and sort of scaffolding on, because the whole there's no like flat services it's all just kind of like plaster and kind of like I don't know how they managed to secure so much extraneous kind of equipment and platforms and bits and bobs are on a piece of architecture

that is just so wonky and wobbly and weird looking it just looks like you know one earthquake and it would just be down I like the I read before that when he was asked by a journalist why construction was taking so long,

Gowdy said, my client is God and he's not in a hurry. Yeah. Because it's a cathedral. I quite like that. Yeah, that's fine, I suppose. But he was, yeah, he's very busy. Some of his other stuff that's a bit more like formal

when he's sort of first starting out in Barcelona, you do sort of go, right, I see where he's, but I just feel with the, with the park, I don't remember, Gowdy Park, fucking big, and it basically looks like the telitubby kind of complex that he's made. or the night garden.

And it's kind of like, he's done that. And he, it must be quite annoying that you are building something. And certainly like that, that park, part of Gwele, Gwela, where he has spent like a good best part of like four years

building this entire kind of like set of, you know, houses and, you know, like a little castle in the middle. And yet, and yet there's a,

there was a school as well in the middle of it. And I thought it was just like a playground. And I was like, about to put my daughter into the playground, but it was actually a school. I've just put her into a school that isn't, I was like, oh no, there's all these kids playing. And I was like, oh no, wait, there's no parents. She comes out speaking Catalan. I was really like, when I've been walking around Barcelona, and it's cool you see those,

the occasional kind of gaudy piece of architects just pop up because it's so distinctive between everything else around. You're right to say it does look a bit like night gardens. style stuff, doesn't it? Was he like Picasso then? Did he start out being a lot more traditional and then just go mad? I don't know.

I mean, presumably you don't get that kind of license. You have to sort of, you know, look, I'm in a big mud palace out of, you know, form to show you what it would look like. It's like, well, you're not making that. That probably isn't structurally sound. You'd have to, you know, it's like Picasso,

you have to know the rules to brick. So presumably it was a very, some of his early work were probably a bit more chill before he started absolutely pissing about. It's like you as a broadcaster, You know, you've got to know the rules of the absolute no repeat guarantee to break the rules of the absolute no repeat guarantee. Yeah.

By the end of my 10-year run at Absolute Radio, I did almost... You were the gauntled. On no repeats between 9 and 5. I listened to a bit of absolute radio... 10 and 5, damn it. You still haven't got it. I listened to a bit of absolute radio on the way back from golf earlier. It's the biggest digital station now.

Is it? It's the biggest one, apparently. Congratulations to them. Half listened to. as somebody else's Ray Jamm eating. They were doing a breaking of the absolute no repeat guarantee. And if you noticed a song that was repeated, you'd call up and get 500 quid.

Right. I'd be more, I'd say, you know what? You'd be costing a fucking bomb. Spend that 500 quid on, on bigger, on one of those massive kind of totems.

Do you remember Ed Miliband had that big, the big, the big Edstone? I think we should have a big, if you're going to spend 500 quid and fuck the Norrepeak guarantee, therefore losing some of its luster, why don't we have a big stone that just basically, you know, lets people know precisely what the Norrepeak guarantee is all about?

Can you remember what was on the Edstone? Do you want me to tell you? There were six actions on the Edstone, a better plan, a better future. Right, okay, yeah, go on. Number one was a strong economic foundation. Okay, yeah. Number two was higher living standards. Yeah, years before Brexit.

Then they what? Higher living standards for working families. Right, okay. Number three was an NHS with the time to care. Right. Number four was controls on immigration. Yeah. Number five was a country where the next generation can do better than the last.

Right. And number six was homes to buy and action on rents. So... It's all very vague, isn't it? It's all very vague, but they're always quite vague, aren't they? I mean, you could have just put a very specific one on in there, isn't it? Like, you know, we're going to knock down the Kennedy Centre or something. something specific just for someone to get there to you know the immigration thing is just something for

the wolves in it something for the something for the for the press but like everything else is just quite generic stuff isn't it stuff you should be doing really it's that quite like looking back on it it's quite quaint because it was like five i think it was like a year or so whatever it was before brexit right because the election was in may of 2015 wasn't the Brexit referendum was 2016 so it was a year or so before that but it was an actual eight of the a half foot two ton slab of limestone they actually went the whole hog on it and and did it as a proper stone and that would have been back end of the thick of it as well i don't think you can get away with those grand it's very un-british i would say i would say it's it's too cartoonish

and people are too smart for that sort of thing i'm going to ask chat gpt how much two tons of limestone costs well but i guaranteed something you'll be like Oh, well, we didn't use, we didn't use Yorkshire limestone for this fucking thing. So apparently they just smashed it up as soon as the election happened. Like Jimmy Saville's headstone. It's in the same base. It's in the same place. Thrown out to sea.

Yeah. Throwed at sea. Guess how much Chad GPT is saying two tons of limestone cost? I don't trust Jack G. I don't either. Last week it refused to believe that it was a wet wrestler called Cat Weasel when he was on television. every week for about 20 years in England on World of Sport on ITV. And he refused to believe that it was, I was arguing with it.

It's ridiculous, ridiculous. A very US-focused product that does not get British references. Well, guess how much anyway? Chat Tew is saying what it's saying. There'll be people listening or know better. But for now, you know, apparently you can get two tons of limestone for 240 quid with delivery. There you go. But I mean, presumably that's all chipped.

Presum that's all chipped into little blocks. I guess it's not one big slab. Not one big slab. No, but anyway, they destroyed the Edstone shortly after the election when he lost. Who did that? What with like a massive... Big sledge-in, I guess. Just smashed it.

Because apparently some people were after it as like an artifact, like stick it in the museum or whatever. But apparently it was smashed the bits and that's the end of that. I mean, it's kind of weird because that does see... It's only 10 years ago, but that does seem like a very, very different time. time. Yeah, definitely. Do you remember Nick Clegg and the leader of the Tories and a court? David Cameron.

Why can't remember my eyes of those fucking names? David Cameron. They, do you remember like they had that kind of, they were walking out of, they were caught on a hot mic and Clegg said, you know, if you keep doing this,

I'm going to find it very hard to disagree with you. If you keep on being so likable, if you keep on being so agreeable, and that was kind of the beginning of the end, wasn't it really? By the way? Have you seen, Nick Clegg said some interesting stuff about that coalition. He was like, oh yeah, it was definitely a mistake to sit next to the Tories on the benches in the commons and that kind of shit.

But have you seen what Nick Clegg looks like now? No, does he look different? He looks really, I don't want to be rude, but he looks really old now. Right, okay. There was one particular photo of him, which was like he, I honestly didn't even recognise him. I'll try and dig it out for you. But he looked totally. different to what you remember.

I mean, it was crazy. I'll put it here. I'll send it to you there. He looks basically like an old, like, eccentric, pisshead aristocrat. Wait, he's been hanging out with it. The WhatsApp chat. Have a look. He looks like Rowley Berk in QC.

Oh, yeah, yeah. It's the, it's the tan suit and the, uh, and the, Obama. He's, it's a tan suit and the, uh, and the, and the, and the, and the, he looks really hoarsey, doesn't he? Making Zuckerberg's excuses for him for like five years is really, really aged him. Tied him out. I'm going endlessly on fucking media appearances saying that Facebook's actually

great and it's got brilliant. I've been watched Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu explain so he can have a conversation with him. Yeah, exactly. I always loved that Zuckaberg meme when the Metaverse came around and it was later found out that there was only 50 people in the Metaverse and like 30 of them worked for Facebook anyway.

Yeah, it's dead now. It's absolutely dead. I think even VR, I think Facebook have, Even though they put out some pretty interesting products, they've absolutely sacked it off now. It was supposed to be the future guys. There was a brilliant takeoff of that. You know Zuckerberg did that really, like these kind of tech bros, like billionaires,

are so out of touch with actual real life that they do stuff and they think it's good and it's actually horrible and sinister and weird and no one's got the blocks to tell them, so it eventually sees a light of day. And there was that video that Zuckerberg did presenting the metaverse to people. And it's really creepy. so he can walk it around his house or whatever

just with no shoes on and it was someone did like a Charlie Brooker style like black mirror style like takeoff of it where it's like a still of it with Zuckerberg looking at the camera and it's said underneath there and don't forget if you die in the Metaverse you die in real life it was like

honestly it looked like and the people in the Metaverse looked like the Wee-mees from the menu from the Nintendo Wii well that's I mean that's very Nintendo kind of style of present Whenever they present something, they sort of present it as, you know, a real family entertainment, even though, you know, you can literally, you know, play your coooser on it instead of.

You know, all the quite... Why did the MetaVus die then? I just think they didn't get it out quickly enough. You know, tech moved on. AI sort of took over the investment, I think. And so I think Facebook just sort of panicked and just sort of threw everything into, you know, through Meta into the AI. eye world more than anything else.

Because the thing is that second life was a thing that started like 20 or years ago and that was like a proper thing like that wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. But that's what big companies... Is that still going? They just take the ideas... Yeah, it will be. They just take the ideas that have

you know, been... Come up through, you know, real people you know, pissing about and having a bit of fun and they just kind of, they co-opt it, steal it and repackage it and sell it to us again, really. Bearing of mind, you know, in the same way that they've sold buses and taxis and stuff to us

a million times over. Yeah, no, that's a good point. Pete, that's an excellent observation, mate. Oh, cheers, mate. Good talking on good form. Thanks, mate. We'll be back on Thursday with presumably more good form.

I think we've got another couple of batteries. We've got some batteries come in finally. So, yeah. Some I look forward to. Get a battery robot out of his... Battery robot out of his slumber. I don't think that was the battery robot. I think that was the Barry White of Batteries.

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