The Luke and Pete Show - Piss Politics

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

After foxes ransack Pete’s nappy bins, Luke suggests a very DIY deterrent: peeing in an Evian bottle to mark his territory… not that he’s speaking from experience. And if he was, he certainly wouldn’t have been caught mid-stream by his wife. Definitely not.Meanwhile, Pete’s overhydration saga hits rock bottom with a full-bladder emergency on the M25, resulting in an SOS wee right outside of a British Airways training centre. Dignity? Absolutely none.Plus, Luke solves a listener’s cat poo problem.Email us at [e-mail] or you can get in touch on X, Threads or Instagram if character-restricted messaging takes your fancy.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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I'm Pete Donaldson. It is Thursday, the first of May, pinch punch first of the month. Luke, you know how the devil are you my show. I'm Pete Donaldson. It is Thursday, the 1st of May, pinch punch first of the month. Lukey Mill, how the devil are you my friend? I'm doing good. I'm doing very well. It's a beautiful day today. May is here already, which means that we're probably, I think my grandad always used to say, and I think it's probably wrong, but I think I appreciate the spirit in which he intended it. He said, there's never been a frost where we grow up on the South Coast after the 1st of May, so you can plant whatever plants you want. So I always think about that and I always think, oh, so now it's just going to be nice

weather from now on. But I'd love to know if that was actually the case because maybe there has been some cold weather overnight in May before. I'm just not necessarily aware of it. But anyway, in summary, I'm good. I spilt my seed in the planters a few weeks ago. Like sort of when it was a bit of a hot spell, I thought, you know what, it says plant in spring,

I'm gonna chuck them in there. And then it got a bit frosty and I think I might've killed all the seeds that I threw in. I made sure that they were dog safe and all this stuff. And oh God, the day before I went away a couple of weeks ago, I was met by the world's worst bin day. Bin day for me is an emotional time, it's just a lot of bins, nappy bins, the nappy bin is never a good bin, trying to get rid of that. We don't use the nappy bin now, we just, because my son doesn't do as many movements. Right. It doesn't need to make changes these days, so we just start using, we use the normal

bin now. Oh the normal bin, okay, right, yeah fair. Because you only get like one. I just, the nappy bin, we had a nappy bin and it was, it was kind of fine, but I had to keep changing it all the time and it absolutely stinks. Did you have the nappy bin inside the house? Yes. Right, okay.

We've got a little bit of outside space. So we do have the nappy bin outside. But the Foxes had got into the Sulu big wheelie bin. Oh right, you got one of those, have you? Yeah, just to hold the bins until we can take them outside because they're just bags that we put outside. And I don't know, I must have not put the tin of paint laid on properly, but I was met by quite the scene

when I got up in the morning. The foxes had knocked over an entire tin of gloss paint and their little foxy feet were all over the plant as I'd just painted, all over the wall were all over the plant as I just painted all over the wall all over the bin and I've just put a big plastic bag over the top of it and I've left it and I am still to yet to fix that particular situation so half of our half of our garden has been painted by some artistic foxes. Is it like Birmingham? It's like Birmingham. It was such an atrocious situation to deal with. It wasn't great.

That Birmingham thing is crazy. Aren't they coming to the end of it? I mean they have to be at some point surely. I mean good god. It's like a national embarrassment isn't it? Yeah. I was seeing the, I was looking at a story on the Independent about it, and some of the photos, my goodness, there's basically rats everywhere. It's bad. Isn't it funny though, isn't it weird that like rats will just sort of, they'll appear if there is rubbish around. Like it's mad, isn't it? Like they saw, They turn up on time in full, don't they? One of my cats once brought a massive rat into the house. It was dead, thankfully. But I was, I mean, as naive as this sounds, I'd obviously seen plenty of rats in London from

a distance or whatever, but I was astonished at how big it was. I have to try and dig the photo out. I probably won't be able to, so Taylor will get annoyed with me later in the week when she asks me for it and I can't find it. But the, the, I was so, I was so astonished how big it was. I wanted something for scale, take a photo of it. And the only thing I had close to hand was a, was a Snickers. It's a Snickers. Oh, don't get a Snickers next to a rat for crying out loud. You lure more in. The cat, the cat couldn't, um, cat won't stick around. Cats get really funny when they bring

you in presents like that and you don't behave how they want you to behave and they go mad. The cat had long gone. So I put a snickers down next to it. It was honestly like twice the length of a snickers. Oh dear. It was big. Anyway, um, the point being that like, um, I know it's difficult for the residents I do they do have my sympathy because I'd be fuming if it was round here But I do quite admire the idea that these these guys are saying look fuck you then this is an important thing This is an important thing. It's like on average an eight grand pay reduction. So I was taking that who can Who can bank who can budget for that like an eight grand pay decrease? No, it's not happening.

It was like 150 of them would lose out around £8,000 a year in real terms, which is just like a fucking piss take. It's a non-starter. Anyway, I hope I get it resolved. What an awful way to start a show But what an awful way to start a show. What an awful way to start a show. Like a genuinely very, very poor way to start a show. Is that your bin? That's my bin. It's just a bit of paint.

What are you talking about? It's paint everywhere. Look at the little feet everywhere. Looks like that mural you did. It does, it does. It's quite cute. There's like little fox paw prints all over the place. Little fox paw prints, yeah.

They're rather sweet. They'll eat anything. That's what, I mean, the thing is that, what people forget about when it comes to foxes is, I understand people don't like them, I understand people would rather they weren't around. But what you have to do in my view at a very basic level is admire them, admire the success they've enjoyed as a species. Yeah, okay. Just incredibly adaptable.

Can eat anything. Can eat anything. Yeah, like they're amazingly adaptable. Because dogs can't fucking eat like raisins or chocolate. I imagine foxes have managed to adapt their way out of that. They're just holding down fruit and nuts. They're like sharks, mate. They're in licence plates and all sorts.

Like Darwin said, you know, it is not the animal or the species that is fastest, strongest, you know, or most intelligent that succeeds. It is the animal or the species that is most able to adapt and change. And foxes, I'll tell you what, we are going to have in like 500,000 years, it's going to be fucking gigantic mecha foxes that are going to be half fucking fox, half metal, just eating everything in their fucking path. And you've got to admire that. You have to admire it. I mean, human beings are quite a successful species themselves. We're in a position where we can say that. We can identify with other successful species we should

be able to. So I think foxes deserve a little bit more credit. Well look, no one's having to go to foxes. I don't mind. As a dog lover, I would find it would be a weird thing for me to hear on the foxes when they're just dogs. They're just free range dogs, aren't they? Well, no, it's got dogs are, dogs are male, cats are female, and foxes are what happens when a dog and a cat mate. That's just science. And by the way, I don't think,

cause I'm saying this about foxes, I've not had my fair share of tribulations. Well, I remember a particular low point for me personally was trying to get rid of a fox that had kept digging up our brand new landscapes garden. And I tried everything. And the only thing I didn't try was essentially what I got caught doing by my wife inadvertently was weeing into an Evian bottle in the bath when she came home from work.

Cause I was going to pour it down the back wall. Cause I thought maybe the foxes will think a big dog, there's a big dog in town. And she just walked in and was like, what, what are you doing? And obviously the way I explained it was like, it made me sound guilty. No, no, cause what it is like is it's just, you know, it's the foxes. And it made me sound like I was just some kind of deviant. But apparently the only thing you can do is head yourself down to the local zoo and get yourself some lion dung and chuck that on your flowerbeds because then the foxes genuinely do smell like a bigger predator and they stay away.

But I'm used to doing that. No, I completely agree. Who would do that indeed? Like the admin, unless somebody's delivering that to you. Maybe they are, maybe you can get some of this poop by mail. Imagine like going to the zoo and the people working there just think you're a regular punter and they go oh yes 18 pound 50 please you go oh no I actually just want some lion shit they're not gonna give you it. Speaking of embarrassing yourself in front of people you don't know. Before I was driving to Heathrow and I was driving from about 7.30, no 10 o'clock, so two and a half hours in the car. My new regime of drinking loads of water saw me on the M25. I hate this for you. I hate this for you. With that little hope for a prayer, I was from about Watford turn off to Heathrow screaming

that I was going to pee my pants. Finally got off the M25, found a little, what I thought was a quiet little sort of backstreet sort of thing and I parked up behind. Hang on, so you peeled off the M35 because you were desperate for a slash. What time of day was this? It was about 10am. You just basically found a quiet road, the quietest road you could find nearby. It wasn't that quiet, it was basically in front of a building where they I think train British Airways staff so I can't go up and for whatever

reason my rear windows are all tinted so you can't actually see in so I'll go right I can't there's nowhere for me to pee without being seen by millions of staff for British Airways so what I'll do is I'll jump in the back fill up a few cups and I had a couple of empty coffee cups. Did you actually do this? Yeah, yeah. Filled up one, sort of opened the back car door, threw it on the floor. Filled up another, threw it out the back car door.

I was onto my third when I noticed in the front of my car, three blocks from the van who was in front of me, just sort of like staring at me and I've got my pan. Did they think you were masturbating? I've got my, well I can only presume. I had my bum out, I was mid floor. What was your bum out? Well because I had to sort of undo, I couldn't just get my penis out of my flies and urinate. Why?

It would just be a mess. I was like, fucking just quick, do it quick. And I had to do it really quick. I was already- So you basically pulled your trousers and pants down like a five year old. The floor had already started with the first cup and I wasn't gonna stop, zip myself up, make myself look more presentable

because I thought I was alone in the back of my car. No, but I want to know why your first port of call was to pull your trousers and pants down like a five-year-old Because I knew because I needed it out of me and I didn't have time to piss about Excuse my terms With with flies when my penis was already gone Pete. It's it's we are Defcon whatever we are we are going I know where you could have this is this is a go-ahead. Yeah, it was there's just no way

There was just no way I was done. I was going to get pissed everywhere. It was horrible. And, and, and so these blogs just, just looking at me, my bum, they can't see what I'm doing. So I am, I panic. You've got a weird bum as well. I panic.

There's like no shape to it. They're looking for a bum. They're not going to find one. It's got no edges to it. It's like, it's like, it's like melted cheese. It's a little boy's bum. It's a little boy's bum. And so I'm like, right.

And I, in my kerfuffle, I couldn't, they'd only seen my bums, they'd only seen that I'm a bum out. Because you've got your back to them, right? Yeah, they'd only seen that I'm a bum out. So I'm like, right, I've got to put the track, and I thought, you know what? They've already seen it, so I have to come up with a story. And the best I could do, and I think I got away with it, was walking out of the back of the car with my trousers, doing up my trousers.

Sorry, lad. And they were already starting to think about getting a mobile phone out to film. I genuinely believe that. They were that close to me. They were right in front of my car. They'd basically, they were annoyed because I'd parked right behind their lorry and they've got like a kind of cantilever, they wanted to put their lift down, they wanted to put the platform down and I just parked in where the lift was. And one of them was gesticulating, I need to put the lift down.

So I am out of the car with my trousers open basically. And I said, sorry lads, I had to take my insulin in the car. See, but I am out of there. That is nice. And if you say I can't think under pressure, that was the best, I don't think technically you're supposed to be putting in your bum, but maybe I had some special insulin

that only I can take in the hair. They would know that. I tell you what, I am really uncomfortable with how proud I am of you right now. I think I got away with people not taking my license plate down. That is a really fucking good get out. Well done mate. If you are caught with your bum out, insulin. And ignore, ignore the puddle of piss.

The piss everywhere. Ignore that. But yeah, not a I need to go. The piss everywhere, yeah. Ignore that! But yeah, not a great start to things. Did you say the insulin line with conviction? Yeah sorry lads, I take my insulin. What did they say? They nodded sagely, so I think I got away with it, so good, yeah.

Oh that is sensational. I'm fucking so proud of you mate. I am constantly with my new regime. I'm not proud of your behaviour, but I'm proud of how you got out of it. I'm constantly dealing with needing a piss and it's not good. They're just dying of toilets around. My worry is that you are now going to use that line to excuse yourself out of any situation that doesn't make any sense.

Shoplifting. Yeah, it's just taking my insulin. Awesome. It's more, taking my insulin. It's more, the thing that annoys me is I couldn't get out and just take a piss against the... like cavemen have more rights than us. Like, what am I paying rates for if I can't just piss in the street and be fine with it? I really needed a piss. The country would be an absolute laughing stock if that was the case. I know, but that's what I mean. It's pathetic. Literally a man who lives in a mud hut has more rights than me right now. We've built a society so that I can't piss in the street when I really need one.

What's wrong with living in a mud hut, Peter? All you're doing here is exposing your own prejudice about other communities. I've beaten a mud hut. You can't piss near there either. What would your solution be? Maybe some kind of like cardboard foldable contraption that would protect your dignity, but then you could pee into like a sealable container. That wouldn't be good enough for people, or people know what you're doing. I was in an enclosed environment and yet I'm getting workmen fucking looking at my bum.

I don't think the workmen are to blame in this scenario. They've not reported you anyway. Well we don't know yet. The cogs of justice to come around us slowly. My backlog before I go to police work is probably quite big so you might not hear from them a couple of months. I think you can probably get away with a lot of stuff these days. Oh dear. My streets, they're gonna go by. I mean essentially, burglary, the theft of Amazon packages, car theft, general kind of physical assault, all that stuff seems to not be investigated by the police now. So it's like fucking Mad Max.

What are we prioritising here lads? What are we doing? I'm not going to fall into the fucking right wing track of arresting old ladies who are swearing on the internet, but like what are we doing? Are we doing any of this? Are we looking at it like an antics? When like Lawrence Fox and Joey Barton and people like that say, oh, you know, it's mad, isn't it? Cause we're being arrested for stuff we're saying online. It's like my position is like, I want you to be arrested. Yeah, I want you to be arrested.

I think you're an absolute cunt. Yeah, I want you on duty in court. I want to see you debase yourself. That's entertainment for me. I think, I'll tell you what they are doing. They're arresting me for cycling on pavements. That's a tailor for me. I think, I tell you what they are doing, they're arresting me for cycling on pavements. That's a good point actually. You shouldn't be saying that. The Metropolitan Police Cycle Team seems to be exceptionally well funded in my experience. Don't be such a bad boy then. You're RP, didn't you? Right. I'm not being funny,

the risk of sounding a little bit unfair. One of those times I got nicked for cycling was in fucking Brixton. Right. Okay. What's wrong with Brixton? It's improved a lot over the years. I love Brixton. It's great. And the reason it's great is because people do whatever the fuck they want. I got arrested, not arrested, but like cautioned or whatever it is. Brixton on the other side of the road was about four blokes selling different items on fucking wallpaper tables to people walking by. They might have a cheeky little license. They might have.

But my argument would be how can I park up a line bike if I'm not allowed to go on the pavement with it? That's a very good point. It's a very good point. Right. Should we take a shot at brick and we can go up to batteries after this. I'll do batteries. Hi, it's Morgan from off the shelf and I'm here to tell you how my Google Pixel 9 helps me read more. Google actually gifted me this phone and now I use it non-stop. The other day I was trying to remember the name of this book someone recommended and instead of spiraling into a 40 minute social media scroll, I just asked Gemini on my Pixel. What's that romantic book with a competition and a ghost helping her through the trials?

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Hello, I found this one at my granddad's house. You read out an article about him building and flying his own plane a few years back. Looking forward to seeing you guys at the Ramble Show in your castle. I'm looking forward to that in your castle show. It's going to be a lot of fun. And yeah, good. Newcastle's always a great time. Newcastle's always a bloody good show.

Ignite is the name of the battery. Does this ignite our administrative passions? Who's this from, Jack? great time. Newcastle's always a bloody good show. Ignite is the name of the battery. Does this ignite our administrative passions? Who's this from? Jack? Hello to you Jack. So this one is not a new player. We've had it in looks like five or six times. Most recently in November from our friend Ian with two eyes. He found it in his kid's bubble gun. Oh, right, yeah. So, not a new player, but good to see the Ignite. You don't see him that often, so it's nice to see it.

No, completely agree. And I very much enjoy his name being Jack, and in the background a lovely pirate ship. So, Jack Sparrow, giant Jack Sparrow with his little battery in front of his own pirate ship. Aaron has got in touch. Aaron here from Perth, Western Australia. Really helping us with the spelling there on his name. Well done Aaron. A-R-R-A-N. I originally hail from Inverness, but I decided to swap the long sunny Mediterranean-like conditions of the highlands for dreary West Australia. Anyway, love the show and submitting the... Oh dear, I've just read the name of it.

Submitting the Raymax to the daddy in the hopes these Aussie Lightning Bolt beauties are in your entry. Found it in the remote of our standing fan. Badly needed for the absolute sweat fest in the bedroom over summer nights. Batteries displayed here with Winnie aka Bouncer, my one year old retriever. Don't worry, she didn't eat them and doesn't need her stomach pumped. Cheers for now you flaming glass and keep up the good work. You're just not getting in Aaron with Raymax but I very much appreciate your dog's little muzzle.

She does look like a dog as well. For people of our age that is a very good reference. Raymax, you're the 24th person sending Raymax, so they're not a new player. But we are contractually obliged to say that Perth in Western Australia is I think the world's most isolated city, isn't it? The most remote city. Is it? Right, it's furthest away from everything else. Yeah, the closest other city to it, I think, is 1300 miles away, which I believe is Adelaide. We talk about this quite a lot. So it's nice to hear from people from Perth a friend of mine once moved to Perth to become an I think an oyster farmer

they do oyster pearls in Perth in quite large numbers could have that wrong hope not don't get in touch with me if I have I don't care who's next who's next Sean has got in touch just checked into an Airbnb with the fam from Easton Brigg and Saltburn. Lovely part of the world. Daughter and other half unpacking. But my first task was to scour the remotes for potential new players. I bring you a pair. Oh dear, Sean. Entop, super heavy duties. Here's hoping. And here's failing. So what might suggest?

It's a very, very poor entry, I'm afraid. Entop, spelled E-N-T-O-P, have been sent into us since April, oh sorry, sorry, sorry, since December of 2017. That's how long they've been being sent in. Needless to say, not a new player. Not sure how many we've had in total, but I imagine it's around 50. Yeah, yeah.

No, no, it's terrible. People need to step up their game. They do need to step up their game. Are we finally running out of them? I don't know, I just think that maybe Saltburn just isn't the place to look for batteries. But as I said, beautiful part of the world, the other side of the T-Spirit.

I didn't know Saltburn was an actual place, I thought it was just a movie. Yeah, it's the other. Do you want an email about cat shit? Yes, please. I'd love that. All right. Alex has been in touch. Hello to you, Alex. He says, hi Luke and Pete. I'm hoping you guys, specifically you Luke as a cat owner, could give me some advice with the situation I'm currently in. My next door neighbor's cat regularly, brackets twice a week, takes a shit in my flowerbed. The neighbor has a barren yard and we have a well tended oasis.

So we've unwittingly created a pleasant shady soil toilet corner for her cat, which he bloody loves using. Currently I clean up the mess each time it happens while passively aggressively muttering loudly about that fucking cat from number 12. In the hope the neighbor will be outside and hear, Luke, you're a cat owner,

should I say anything to my neighbor? What would it realistically achieve? Is there anything she can do about it? I assume cats basically will be outside and hear. Luke, you're a cat owner. Should I say anything to my neighbor? What would it realistically achieve? Is there anything she can do about it? I assume cats basically just shit where they want. I should point out we get on well with the neighbor and I don't want any beef. I've also tried to create a Theresa May style inhospitable environment with pointy sticks and wire mesh

to prevent digging, which the cat just shits on top of. Occasionally I catch the cat in flagrante and chase it away, but that feels mean. At this point I'm effectively resigned to either a lifetime of cleaning up someone else's cat shit or maybe moving house. Any ideas? Thanks Alex. Isn't a trip to the zoo for tiger poo? Yeah. A trip to the zoo for tiger poo? It was actually lion poo, but I think tiger would work just as well.

I just assume tigers are a bit more endangered aren't they? Less likely to find their poo. When does a poo become a dung? I don't know, it feels like it's when a scarab beetle gets hold of it I guess or it's just a lot of it I suppose. If it's bigger than a fist it's dung. Okay that's just your assessment right? Oh yeah no it's not based in fact. I don't know where dung, does dung have to be wheat based or something? Does it have to be the sort of thing that an odd-toed ungulate farts out? Is a scarab beetle the same as a dung beetle, by the way?

Yeah, I think so. The old Egyptian lot. All right, so the answer to the question is, I suppose, my take would be that, I don't know, weirdly, my cats like they dig a hole and then bury it, so you don't really know. And it's also good for the flower bed, right? It's like fertilizing it and all that kind of stuff. I think meat eaters, I don't think it really works like that, does it?

I think we've spoken about it. I thought it was good for it. I think you're spreading muck, like cow muck is good for muck spreading because it's all kind of plant fibres, isn't it? But I think if you put me on to... Oh, okay. That's something I'm not aware of. But I think my answer is that you could probably get one of those high-pitched things that emit something. Oh yeah. Yes.

By the way, they work. Unfortunately, the news you don't want to hear, Alex, is just I think the cats just do not give a fuck. They don't care. They'll just do whatever they want. And you know, I think you just gotta suck it up I'm afraid. I mean don't literally suck it up, that'd be horrible, but like you're gonna have to just get on with it. I would maybe say... Try the lion po first and then... You can maybe ask your neighbour to put like a cat litter tray in their house or something. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they must be doing that as well, surely. No, we don't have a litter tray because our cats are always outside. Oh, OK. So you're one of them. They're the naughty neighbour.

I mean, I actively and regularly see them just doing their business in our garden. So why do the cat? Why do cat people have such a hoity toity opinion of the of the dog owners, not cleaning up the dog poo? That's all they do is poo wherever they fancy. Unbelievable. Yeah, I do think it's different because cats tend to bury it, cats tend to do it in private garments. Obviously, it's not an idea of doing it on the lawn and you've got kids and stuff like that. Totally. That should be as dimly viewed as the dog thing is. I always find the reputation that like cats have to be quite

odd though, because it's just, it's just not my experience of being a cat owner because people sell cats like they don't care about you. They're not loyal. They're all this other stuff. Like my attitude would just be my cats are very affectionate. They love the family. They love the family. They love coming in. They love my son. They're always looking for a little lap to sleep on and all that kind of stuff. And then on the loyalty thing, they're just different to dogs, by which I mean that they

behave differently because they're different animals, of course. But if you want to kind of test the loyalty stuff, rear cat, I mean, I would just say, well, my cats have been part of this household for, for, huh? Threaten the kittens at gunpoint. No, it's just that my cats have been around for 11 years and they come and go as they please. Like they literally have a little door, the back door, they can go outside and go away and never come back. They're never on leaves. They never have to be worried about. They always come back. They come back every single day for the most part. So they

are, they do understand a kind of like a family unit, a loyalty. They want to be here and you don't have to put them on a lead to make that the case. You're probably quite satisfied that it's quite an ethical, it's quite an ethical kind of pet, I suppose, isn't it? Because you're not keeping it there. It can go at any moment, but it comes back. Yeah, although lots of people say they're not keeping it there. It can go at any moment, but it comes back. Yeah, although lots of people say they're not ethical because of the amount of damage they do to the bird population and stuff. I've never seen a cat manage to grab a bird.

I mean, the RSPB say this. I find it very fucking hard to believe that my two cats could ever catch a bird that isn't A, already like mortally injured. I think they are. If we're going to talk about defunding things, I think the RSPB, it's just a lot of like, he was there a minute ago, there's just a lot of that in it. I tell you what it is, it's the rage jar of animals, isn't it? It's the rage jar of animals. Oh, fill in their diary because you saw a bird pathetic. I'm going to distance myself from that opinion because I'm sure most animal charities are really important, Pete.

You're trying pulling a fair opinion out of me. You're not going to get one. I just also think that if someone says to you, Oh, cats are causing an epidemic of killing of birds. How, how's it happening? I tell you how it's happening. The birds are already mortally wounded and therefore they will die anyway. And it won't just be a cat. It'll be a fox or whatever. And the second thing is it's only ever the case that cats can really do anything outside of that. If like, if like birds fledged nest too early, which happens all the time. Like that's nothing to do with the cat. If a bird fledges a nest too early, it's going to die anyway. I've just, that's what I'm looking for. I do love birds as well, I like all animals. I love dogs too, I'm not trying to set my stall out in any particular direction.

I'm just saying, it's a little bit weird. Well maybe you should, we might get more listeners. Do we want more listeners though? I like the listeners we've got. I think it's very rusty Daniel Kitts thing of just whittling everyone down to the bare minimum. The perfect listener. The perfect listener. Yeah the perfect listener who gives us money. Hopefully wealthy yeah. Right yes yeah we'll be back, we'll be back soon. Have a lovely weekend everybody we'll see you on the We'll see you on the... May 2nd, 3rd, 4th? 5th. May the 4th.

Oh, we'll be back on May the 4th. 5th. Friday, Saturday. Ah, it's a shame we're going to miss Star Wars Day. Where my dog Lola will be 12 years old. Ah, congratulations to Lola. What a great innings. Thanks for listening to us and we'll see you soon. Yeah, we'll see you soon. Ta ta.

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