The Luke and Pete Show - Pretgate

Episode Date: April 7, 2025

Happy Monday - it’s time for some more carefully curated nonsense. Luke recounts a bizarre standoff he had in Pret involving a truly odd policy #JusticeforMoore. We also get into the latest internet controversy swirling around our beloved Pete and blast through plenty of emails - including a listener who writes to us a few minutes before his vasectomy, an update on Norwich’s cultural impact and some breaking news concerning Stubbington Study Centre. Join us! Email us at [e-mail] or you can get in touch on X, Threads or Instagram if character-restricted messaging takes your fancy.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Yeah, it's the Luke and Pete Show. It is Monday the 7th of April. Did you just mute me on microphone and do a little sneezey sneeze? That's how I like to start every show, a muted sneeze. Sometimes I will mute and I'll do it wrong and I'll mute myself and then I'll basically mute myself for the time where I'm going, uh uh uh uh uh-huh-huh, and then I'll unmute just as I go, PAAA! What does it sound like when you're doing a sneeze? Can you replicate a sneeze sound?

I bet you can't. I reckon I can make myself sneeze, hang on. Oh, don't do your finger at your nose thing again. Why? This is like Extenders where they made the... It's not a party trick. It's hardly David Blaine. You just stand there with a furrowed brow,

your little finger up your nose for ages and sometimes you sneeze What are you doing? Awful experience for the listener Genuinely abysmal experience for the listener Diabolical stuff I'm getting some purchase Hang on Come on

Look at your face I've got tears in my eyes now What are we talking about? We said on Thursday First we had a lovely weekend of course You've had a lovely weekend as well too Peter What's your recent bits? I've got something off my chest before I get the emails Luke

What do you want me to say first? I am in What's your recent bits? Because I've got something off my chest before we get the emails, Luke. Oh, OK. What do you want me to say first? I am in... Nothing. What? You just said, what's your routine? You said, what's your routine?

What's your routine? I just sort of, because we're two shows into a record, I presume you might not have anything. You might have spaffed your wad on the previous show, so to speak. You're asking me a question, hoping I don't answer, so you can say what you want to say. No, no, no, I've got something that made me sad,

and I asked you, and then I realized halfway through it, we're two shows in here, he might not have anything. So I'm just trying to give you- I've already got something to say, mate. All right, what's been happening this week? Do you want to hear what happened to me at Pret? I had a Larry David situation at Pret. No, no, What happened to Pret?

You do your own then. What happened to Pret? Well, basically, I had like a real life Larry David situation and I don't think I've talked about it on the Luke and Pete show before, so I thought I'd mention it. It was about a month ago now. Yeah. You know, if you ever see Larry David interviewed, he essentially says that the way he writes curb is that he sees situations all the time in real life

where he's like, okay, I'm obviously not gonna go into bat on that. Yeah, but let's take it to its nth degree. What would happen? Yeah. Well, this exact thing happened to me with, in press, so I was with Holly, you know, AP Holly. Yes.

She works on a lot of football stuff for us. And we were getting some lunch and we're doing takeaway, right? Right. So I presume this is the one, uh, hybrid is the station. Yeah, the big one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just second picture. There's a guy in there who works a bit, he's a bit of a character. He's got glasses. He like talks to every, like, customer and tries to make a joke of it.

Which like, okay, I'm not telling him how to do his job, obviously, but it's busy there. There's often a queue out the door, literally. It's like, mate, can you just start running stuff through quicker and then we can all get on with our lives. I don't need a poem about soup. Nah, exactly. Seven pound soup. Yeah, exactly. Seven pound soup.

Yeah. You know, to tell a person, in my view, if you've got to someone you don't know, how are you? I'm fine, thanks. That's all I want to hear. I don't care if you've had a tough day. I don't know you. I don't care if you've had a good day.

I don't know you. If it's something really genuinely horrific that I can help with, I'm always happy to be community spirited about it. But as far as I understand, the parameters of displeasantry are how are you, not bad, you, great. Move on. Last week, Manning Corp telling me about his girlfriend that he's visiting in London.

Do not need that information, I'm sorry. Don't need it. Anyway, this guy always talks to people, fine. So I get to the front of the queue. I just sneezed off my nose. You sneezed, but you're muted, you absolute coward. You coward! After all that buildup. I didn't think it was gonna happen, but it just happened. You absolute coward. You coward. After all that build up.

I didn't think it was going to happen but it just happened. It was such a delayed reaction. Oh, what a nightmare. So I get to the front of the queue. I buy a sandwich and I buy a can of Diet Coke. Possibly a bottle. No, it was a can. It was a can of Diet Coke. And he said, oh yeah, is there anything else you want? So I can have a bag. And he said, yes. And he said, anything else? I said, can I have a cup please? I said, like a paper cup from Pret, you know? For the Coke.

Right. And he goes, no. And I was like, oh good. I'm on his side in this one, to be honest. Well, I'm gonna tell you what, I'm waiting to see what happens. Or has he been jokingly chippy? No, well, I'll tell you, no, honestly.

I was like, oh yeah, good one, yeah, just a cup. No, hot drinks took no honestly. I was like, oh, yeah. Come on. Yeah, just just a cup. No hot drinks only Wow, and I was like what I've bought a drink. I want a cup and he was like no no The cups are just for hot drinks So I was like gives you manual right? This is this is a bit odd. Like what do you care? There's like five thousand and behind you on that counter like pre aren't counting the amount of paper cups that are being dished out. I didn't say all this stuff, but I was just a bit confused.

And I just said to him... It's where like silly badonage and sort of pleasantries turn into... He was deadly serious! Oh, you're serious? Wow, okay. So then I said, I've bought a drink, I want a cup. Yeah. And he said, you don't get a cup if you're buying a can of drink

because the can itself is a vessel. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha drink I deserved to be able to choose my own vessel and he said no you can get a little plastic cup from the water tap over there but that's all you can have. So I ended up defeated and I was walking out of the holiday and she was like that's a bit weird. I was like yeah totally fucking weird like I don't understand how you could ever be that bothered by it. It doesn't make any sense to me. So I've never bought a drink from there again since I just get a drink from the canteen in the office. Yeah, that seems like a weird hill to die on.

But like, it is that thing where you are expecting the sort of game of sort of, a game of sort of chance, a game of sort of you trying to stick to it and them trying to stick to it and then you're in a situation where you are... It becomes like an attritional war, basically. An attritional war and you're expecting at some point for him to sort of go, ah, I'm only joking. Because people, some people can't do jokes. Some people can't have a laugh.

Some people confuse, you know, fun with cruelty or stupidity. That's amazing. That's an amazing thing to have to deal with. So I kind of, yeah, I do, the thing is with press it's like really convenient, it's amazing. That's an amazing thing to have out of Delveth. So I kind of, yeah, the thing is with press, it's like really convenient, it's easy. And so I probably will still buy the food from there. But my own form of like pathetic protest is that I'm not going to buy drinks from there anymore. It's just mental. Even if there had been a directive passed down from head office about that, I'm not the type of person who would not implement it. I think they had a bit of trouble with food, not contaminants but

allergies and stuff. They did yeah. Not one's allowed to use a fucking paper cup are they? They just don't want to sort of you know break from convention. Convention kills. Anyway have you ever had a Larry David experience of that nature and then let us know? Yeah I mean it is that kind of thing where it's that British kind of uncomfortableness. Like you're not someone who ever gets uncomfortable in those kind of situations. Nah. And you will back yourself.

But yeah, I'd be just like, okay, I'm waiting for you to sort of do your joke, but the joke never comes. It doesn't come. I mean, why do you need a cop? Really, Luke? Let's get back to down to Brass Tax here. I could probably engineer it so that if I went there again to buy a drink, I would make sure I never went to his counter.

Right, okay. Now you're thinking that you really need a drink, eh? Now I'm just thinking that I shouldn't have to put this amount of work in to purchase something from a shop. It just seems stupid. Yeah. Anyway, should we do emails? We did say we would.

All right, then. Cool. Should we just bang through them in a row? Yeah, let's do it. Just from the top. All right, cool. Okay, this one's we would. All right then, cool. Should we just bang through them like one, in a row? Just from the top? Yeah, let's do it. All right, cool. Okay, this one's from Kelly. Hello to you, Kelly.

Kelly says, long time, this is the first time email. That's what we'd like to hear. Thank you for getting involved. And says, at the risk of being a stereotypical Canadian complaining about the cold. I'm being very careful not to use certain pronouns here because I understand in Canada, Kelly can be a male or female name.

I don't know which one it is. Kelly Kelly, the wrestler. Well, Kelly squared. Kelly squared. Is Kelly Kelly a man or a woman? Woman. Okay. I'm not going to assume. At the risk of being a stereotypical Canadian complaining about the cold, I thought I'd send greetings from the frozen tundra of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.

After your intro talking about the cold weather in London, spirit of thought for your Commonwealth brethren, it was minus 51 Celsius with the windchill where I am yesterday. I'm moving house next weekend and the forecast of minus five degrees has made me thinking of shorts and t-shirt after the bone chilling, lung icicle-ing shit we've had for the past two weeks. Let's pray the forecast gods are correct. Keep the pods rolling, Kelly. Minus 51 Celsius with the windshield Peter I don't even know I saw watch a video where they showed you in your cuts cow How they keep their um cars running like imagine a car running at minus 50 That's outside of they basically just put their engine in a little blanket

It's a keep it nice and warm They must keep the engine running because I know that like a lot of cars in New England where it gets very cold, they have a button they press on the key where you start the car five minutes early. Oh and it just sort of warms it. Before you get in it. Which is probably terrible for the environment to be honest. Yeah, I mean but what environment if everything's frozen?

I imagine like the, do you not think that if it's so cold surely your exhaust fumes just sort of fall to the floor like snow yeah, I Was in them I was in the moment. It was minus 25 Celsius at one point. It's just for D. He's currently the house basically now the cause of a baby like minus 15 Yeah, that was Romania very very cold very cold so yeah Romania. Very very cold though, very cold. So yeah. Do we get on to the next email? Yeah just read it, you're on the show as well. It's what you listen to

The Rest Is Politics, which I enjoyed listening to, it's a great show but because Roy Stewart's not a broadcaster, every single time he's finished a point he just goes over to you Alistair. You haven't got to say that. You do not have to say that. Over to you, Alistair. And I've been learning German. Hi chaps on the subject. I did some speaking in German this week. Hi chaps on the subject here of scaffolders honouring our war dead. I'd like to bring to your attention the final boss of right-wing jingoism. Aptly named Churchill's Munchies, an English food shop located in Thailand owned by a former football hooligan. Couldn't find the actual social profile but here's a tweet

from one of his videos. I'm sure you can agree the Lee Rigby freezer is the ultimate form of respect. We have spoken about the Lee Rigby freezer before on the show but it is sadly max now closed. It is now moot, the Lee Rigby freezer presumably because like freezers when they've reached the end of their natural life you just see them on waste ground don't you? Yeah. Would you do that to the Lee Rigby freezer? You'd have to give it a proper barrier with on it and everything. Yeah possibly. You'd fire off four twisters and a mini milk. Yeah, I think that some people who make decals and stickers for this fridge should, I think some things shouldn't be printed.

It's just a job though, isn't it? Yeah, but like, you know like when you, if you try and photocopy a fiver, photocopy a fiver. I've never done that, what happened? It says, errr, can't do that. That's illegal. It's got some software built in it, so it can't do it. It's got some software to sort of notice that It's a poor knot. So I think if you are in a printers and you're printing

out a little bit and you've got to ask, right, where's this picture of Lee Rigby gonna go? He goes on a fridge and you go on, well I can't do that then, that's ridiculous. Yeah, so the guy who, the guy you can't, that Max can't find, the guy you're referring to here is a guy called Jason Mariner, who is a former, so he was the owner of Churchill's Munchies. He lives in Thailand now. He's a former footballer, as Max said, he was a former member of the Chelsea Headhunters.

And basically he's quite popular on Instagram now, where he does a video like every few days or something with his top off, talking about how shit Britain is and all the things that it needs to do to be better while living in Thailand. And he being able to put a sentence together. He's honestly one of the thickest human beings I've ever seen in my life. And I had to unfollow a couple of people on my Insta who I semi know who were fucking following the guy. Yeah, but as I said, that's not fair because I don't think following is an endorsement.

I follow plenty of stuff. You don't know the two people I'm talking about, do you? Oh, fair, okay. Yeah, you kind of assumed. Very much from my hometown. Right, what about this from Jake? He says, Luke, oh sorry, he says, a garden Luke may be interested in. Hi guys, I've just started as a head gardener

in a state in East Sussex called Penns in the Rocks. Penns in the Rocks, which may be of interest to Luke and the wife he has access to to visit on an open day. Formerly owned by William Penn, founder of the state of Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania's actually a Commonwealth, isn't it? So, founder of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. And a getaway for many famous poets in the century since.

There's also a huge outcrop of rocks from the Cretaceous period, which are amazing to see. Not sure it's Pete's cup of tea, but certainly thought Luke would be interested. Love all your shows and hope we see you on an open day. That is very lovely for you to invite us there, Jake. Very much appreciated. I do love a country gardener.

Do you know what I think sometimes? I can convince myself, despite the fact that I, A, get sunburnt really easily, and B, have no gardening skills whatsoever, that I bloody love a job doing that. Yeah. So it's back-breaking. Just outside all the time. Back-breaking toil. You're just doing that constantly Yeah. Just outside all the time. Backbreaking toil.

You're just doing that constantly. Does it have to be though? Yeah, it does. It really does. I'm looking at my little, sort of little plant outside and yeah, it's in a state of disrepair, Luke. I don't mind.

So I Googled image them pens in the rocks. It does look absolutely beautiful, I have to say. So Jake, whatever it is you're doing there, you're doing a fantastic job, my friend. Keep it up. Well done, Jake. Yeah, good stuff. Right, crack on with the next one. Over to you.

Alexander. Hello, both. Regardless if you read this, I love the pod. You helped me through some rough times. I have no battery to submit at the moment because I know I'll send those Baston Maxes But long live the pod and long live the looking picture. Thanks Alex. Thanks Alexander. That's very kind of you. We don't Look at these

We don't look at these emails before we read them out. We should do We don't look at anything before we talk about it. We don't look at anything before we read it out. And yeah, and and thank you very very much it's very kind of you and and good good Alexander we love you too thanks for listening I like having both of you mouse because particularly making Pete read them because they make him feel really uncomfortable yeah I mean that's what I was gonna talk about at the start of the show I've had a week of abuse so this one kind of levels me out a little bit.

I'm sorry about that by the way. You know like back in the day you used to say things online to upset people and they used to get upset. Kind of, what do you mean? And people on social media would give you pellets for sort of rabble rousing. And you, and it's all part of the game. They knew it, you knew it, it was all just a bit of a joke. You talk about me specifically? Yeah, on the rabble stuff you would be a bit naughty and have outspoken takes and people would get upset.

I mean, idiots, I mean, they're idiots. I'd like to think I wasn't ever deliberately provocative or offensive. No, you weren't never offensive. Never offensive. I have been, I'm going to say I've been the victim of what can only be described as an internet pile on this week. By the Gamer Gates in my opinion in cell population. Okay, this sounds interesting. This sounds like it might add fuel to the fire. 6am, few days ago, did a Brawn Japan podcast.

Did my usual stuff really. There's a new story at the moment. Assassin's Creed, you're familiar with the game? I am familiar with the game. It's a game where Assassin travels through time to assassinate people and this new one is set in Japan. So it's that wonderful kind of like collection of People who are quite nerdy about Japan and video game fans together like proper otaku weeby kind of guys of which I am the same of which I am one right yeah now the thing about in my opinion the politics of modern video games is that whenever there's a black person whenever there's a person of color whenever there's a black person, whenever there's a person of color, whenever there's a trans person, when there's a gay person in

a video game, there is this potentially funded by nation-states collection of people who basically pump up the temperature about you know de- iification of video games and and you've experienced that, you've seen this before, it's always a scraping the barrel kind of argument and it's never really true and it's just people in their bedrooms arguing about not wanting to see black people on television or in films, in Star Wars films or in Marvel films and video games. So the new Assassin's Creed, the main character is a Japanese woman and the secondary character is a black guy

who did exist at that time. He wasn't quite the character that is depicted in the game. And so a lot of this kind of like, in my opinion, quite toxic collection of people who are quite outspoken about this sort of thing, weaponize that, go after Ubisoft, go after the video game industry and just make it worse for everybody basically. And it's every fucking game and it's been happening for 10 years if not more and I'm bored of it, I like video games, I think it's a necessary and important art form and I think I've done my time and I think

I'm allowed to say that I'm a bit of an authority on certain aspects of games from a very distant vantage point. I think I'm allowed to say that because I've been invested with it for a long time. Disagree. Disagree, thank you. And so Chris basically said, you know, what do you think is the new Assassin's Creed game? Because there was a Japanese MP who was complaining that at one point you do smash up a shrine, which is obviously it's a place of worship. I think you can sort of say that's a bit rough and that's beyond the pale and they probably shouldn't be doing that, especially when it's a new shrine with a thing.

And that's I agree with. I mean, he did have a fistfight with the Pope in a previous game. So I will say that. Historical Pope, not the one now, you just go out of hospital. No, no, that was unrelated. He didn't get punched in the throat or anything. So I may have suggested that we don't need to worry about the people complaining about the black person being in a video game because they are virgins in their bedrooms. Yeah. Linking the insult community. Rose you're a virgin in your shed.

Exactly. You know, linking the insult community with the right wing sort of Andrew Tate sort of shit. It's all the same fucking shit. All in one fucking thing. Anyway, long and short of it, 763 comments call me a cunt. How could I tell you I'm going straight after this? I know exactly where I'm going mate. Just a lot of justs. On the YouTube? On the YouTube, yeah, endless and endless. What does Chris think about it?

Chris did, what can I describe, he limited himself, he played Devil's Advocate. Oh God. did what can only be described in the limited himself he played devil's advocate and so he gets away with it so he gets away with playing devil's advocate I went in with two feet at 6 a.m. completely unprepared because the news story was not the news story was supposed to be covering so yeah just happy to be that passionate at that time in the morning just had a week stick to your guns Peter good for you you're you're fighting a good fight. Just add a week of it though Luke. Yeah I get it, it's very debilitating and exhausting and it sounds awful but at least you're doing something interesting, at least you're doing something that's stimulating

debate, you're actually getting out there creating stuff and those people aren't doing that. I just got a notification over the weekend I think saying, who's he told me? Someone told me anyway that the football Ramble subreddit's been reignited. God that's not back is it? Fucking hell. I'll tell you what it was, It was, I think on the Discord, so the Ramble Patreon Discord, which is a great place to be.

I'm always on there. I post on there quite a lot. Very happy to be a part of it. Very grateful for all the support that we get and stuff. And when I was on this subreddit's backup, so I looked at it and it was just a, I guess like a sub, I don't know, like an employee of Reddit saying,

this sub used to be popular, it's now dead. Who wants to reignite it? Does anyone want to moderate it? As a few of you just get involved. So yeah, I'll moderate it. No one wants to do it. Well, just from nowhere, right? I told you before, I got first of all accused of starting it under a pseudonym, which I fucking didn't. Anyone who knows me knows I have no idea how to do that. Secondly, I got accused of having loads of different pseudonyms on there and supporting myself on it. And then I got fucking accused of closing it down. I never been involved

in any of it. And I clicked on the link, which I shouldn't have done because I should just keep that cupboard closed basically. It's based on the cupboard I've got under the stairs, just full of crap. I never want to look at it again. And it was just loads of people slacking me off. I've not done anything to it. The first guy, the first comment, I mean, I presume it's a guy, was, yeah I'll moderate it but only if I haven't got to pretend Luke's not a knob. Oh cheers. I've not evolved.

Well to be honest, a lot of the people who agreed with me on that thing was like, I usually can't stand Peter Ticks but he's great on this one. I was like, come on. Oh right, great cheers. Come on, yeah cheers. Yeah, he's really supportive. Thanks mate. Backhanding compliments all over. My favourite one was stick to radio and receding hair.

Oh, I agree with that one. I agree with that one. Stick to receding hair. He's got me there, yeah. Oh, I'm gonna do this here. I'm gonna really lean into my hairline receding. Yeah, I've really met the most of that, yeah. It's doing it by itself.

Pete, let's have a break. Let's have a break. And we'll squeeze a couple of emails in when we come back. But I'm genuinely sorry for your trouble, as they say, and I can only, if it's a silver line to your cloud, I will have a bloody lovely afternoon watching it. Yeah, have a little look around. The YouTube later. Yeah, yeah. Do not call people virgins. I will. I will. Hey, little virgins, it's Luke and Pete Shaw and we're back. Shall we get to some more emails before we shuffle off?

I've got one here from Adam. He says, Hi Luke and Pete, I write this as I await my vasectomy procedure. So Adam's clearly not a virgin. No, exactly. Well, could you have one without... It's a hell of a bluff, isn't it? Yeah, I'm so potent that I have to have a sex me, but you've never had sex. My sperm goes to another school. Yeah.

I guess it would be a school of sperm, wouldn't it? They do fish, innit? They have similar attributes. What, you mean it's a collective now? Yeah, I think a school of sperm. Yeah. Could be, yeah. Don't put that in your dating apps. Never use that term.

Probably not. Don't talk about sperm anyway. Do people still use dating apps? Is that still a thing? Of course they do. Of course they do. Surely. I thought there was like dead now because everyone has to pay and it's all young people

they don't want to pay. Oh right, yeah, good point actually, yeah. It's probably self-pity. Oh actually, one of my son's all young people and they don't want to pay. Oh right, yeah, good point actually, yeah. Actually, one of my son's friends, their parents they met on Hinge, so maybe they do. Anyway, Adam says, I feel like the fellow listeners on the email to your show reassured me that everything's going to be alright with the procedure. Granted, at the moment my pants are so tight I feel like I'm wearing a thong. Anyway, I just wanted to get in touch as I was at a four year old's birthday party last Sunday, brackets with my four year old, nothing weird.

A stark reminder of why I'm getting this done, it was a very loud disco at 9.30 on a Sunday morning. I'm pleased to say I wasn't drinking the night before as a hangover in that environment would not be welcome. I digress though, as I sit there in this hall, my buddy offers me a cup of tea to which I accept. He brought it over in a mug. It'll be a nice fit on the Luke and Pete show.

I can only apologise that I didn't take it to send it to you. I have attached a picture for your pleasure. And it's only a bloody Stubbington Study Centre mug. Stubbington Study Centre. Where the hell did that come from? So that presumably came from a... Oh, so somebody else's house had a Stumlington Study Centre cup that somebody like the ARC they got to drink out of.

The reason I wanted to include this email is because I've got some news for you Peter, as of a week or two ago. I'm just going to read a headline to you from the BBC website, local news, Hampshire in the Isle of Wight, reprieve for threatened outdoor study centre. Oh, are we back in business boys? We're so back baby. A threatened residential activity centre has been reprieved after councillors turned down plans to use the site for a new secure children's home. Hampshire County Council cabinet members voted unanimously to find an alternative site to Stubbington Study Centre near Fairham in Hampshire. Teachers, parents, groups and councillors had campaigned for the plans to be reversed

and the petition attracted more than 20,000 signatures. Oh, I wonder why Hampshire County Council rejected it. Great news though. I mean, yeah, so, but it's a stair of execution basically, isn't it? It's not gonna be reversed completely, is it? They're gonna find an alternative site for it. Oh, okay, All right, fine.

There was absolutely no reason for it in the first place. It was a profitable, very busy, very popular place Study Centre. for children to study and to learn things offsite. It was a really formative part of everyone's upbringing in that area. Everyone loved it. So you cannot say it's not a good decision. They just got to find something else for the...

I understand that. I understand children need children's homes, it's sad but it's true. But it should not happen at a place like Sturmington Study Centre in my opinion. They probably just went route one and went, where have I seen loads of kids? Sturmington Study Centre? Do you know I think that like the study centres should be places like, you know, I'm trying to think of like the worst factory in Hartlepool is the SCA cardboard factory for some reason. Did you ever work there? No, but my mate did and he said it's it's it's it's awful I don't know why it's just cardboard. It's not like you think it's a lot of chemicals to treat the cardboard don't they? Yeah, I think it's just one of those kind of like print finishing places

We just fold it up and I would just take the kids to the abattoir. That should be the study center You should have like a kind of someone who is killing the animals and like all the blood and stuff. So I go, if you don't knock your ideas up. If you don't start that TikTok channel, you're going to be working this abattoir sunshine. So watch out, yeah? I'm not sure about that. That's a study centre for me. Yeah?

Everything, what you're basically saying is anything in the right context can be a study centre. Exactly, yeah. Pret a manger, watching you remonstrate with a man about the cup. Which would be bumbling about. Bumbling about. Getting annoyed. I thought about that. What I should have done is I'd pay an extra 50p for the cup, really test him. Yeah, I'd be your tip. So this is a premises where things are sold, sir. What's the value of that cup? I'd like to know what the RRP of it is. And if you don't know, you can ask your manager.

Would you have to pay tax on the drink? Not if I'm taking it away. No, you're taking it away, right? Yeah. Good point, actually, yeah. So one who we know very well, Pete, do you remember when we used to have meetings and we used to have them in pretz,

to have our lunch or dinner before we'd record, absolute. And one of our number would never buy a sandwich to eat in because they wanted to save the money so they would buy the sandwich at the end and walk towards the studio eating it instead yeah and he would and he would triumphantly stride as you should be leaving he would try to stride with his normal sized hairy on on hairy legs by normal-sized, hairy-on-on-hairy legs, and buy a sandwich. I was more... as he caught sight of his potentially Paul Pescasolido mirrored image in the counter.

I've not described him in any way that's up to you to say that it's nothing to do with me. I'm unrepentant he nearly got me in trouble on the on the ramble this morning but by doing just that by revealing things and I had to get him to edit out and but I would say that I was more offended by the sandwich that that person would buy and it's a very simple sandwich. Let's squeeze one more in, because our friend Jimmy to the B, who is the famous chronicler of Jackson Encyclopedia and a super fan of the Ramble and a big, very valued member of the Discord,

he's been in touch. He says, after the Luke and the Pete, on a recent show, you were talking about the nightclub Liquid in Norwich. I can confirm that it is indeed no more. It's situated next to what is currently a bar and beyond on Norwich's infamous Prince of Wales Street. There were plans for a new nightclub with a rooftop bar to be built by the owners of Bar and Beyond, but nothing has happened since 2022.

As for artists and bands from Norwich, which is what we were talking about a while back, there are very slim pickings, unfortunately. Perhaps one of the most famous, but not her own work, is Cathy Dennis. Cathy Dennis is a very prolific songwriter, incredibly successful. And as Jimmy says, has written eight UK number ones including Can't Get You Up My Head by Carly, Toxic by Britney and I Kissed a Girl by Katy Perry. I mean out of their three big old hitters, like Kylie almost broke America with that song. That's how big that song is.

I mean obviously fine, Toxic by Britney, you give them the song Britney Spears, it's gonna be huge. Kiss the Girl Katy Perry, huge. But yeah, I mean that nearly broke America for Kylie. What a song. She wrote Toxic about the Supervert didn't she? That's a famous... Oh that's right, yes. If you look at the... She was a fairly fairly successful pop star in her own right first, and then she obviously went behind the scenes and started writing songs. She has written so many hits, it's unbelievable. So she wrote Sweet Dreams My LAX for Rachel Stevens,

she wrote Anything Is Possible, number one hit for Will Young, she wrote Have You Ever and Reach for S Club Seven. She also wrote Never Had a Dream Come True, which I think was a UK Christmas number one for S Club Seven. She wrote a couple of songs for Jonas Brothers. She's written, I think she's written songs for Katy Tunstall. She wrote a hit for Diana Vickers,

who came second maybe in X Factor, went to number one, she's written Kelly Clarkson songs, she is definitely in the money when it comes to songwriting, she's made bank I reckon. Yeah I mean like it went platinum Kiss the Girl in every country going, like it's absolutely, it already got the gold in Belgium, I don't know why the Belgians are not. He says beyond that you are left with artists and bands who are from Norfolk or Suffolk, and just say they are from Norwich because no one else has heard of the places

that Roger Taylor is from, like King's, well everyone's heard of King's Lynn, right? Where is King's Lynn? I guess not then. Beth Orton's from Deerham. Beth Orton was- Nick Taylor from Deerham. Beth Orton was from Dis.

Do you know Beth Orton was like, Beth Orton was huge and then just disappeared. and she's not been seen for some decades. Mad. And Jimmy reiterates that the darkness are from Lower Stuff, but you already said that, we already said that from Suffolk. But yeah, anyway, so there's a few cultural, culturally impactful people from East Anglia. Oh, Kingsland looks nice. I want to go to Kingsland now. I want to go to Gairwood. I want to go to South Wotton. I've been to a wedding in I think Kings Lynn. It was actually very nice. Yeah. Why can't you review towns? You can review the Tesco Superstore in Gairwood but you can't review the one in Gair... you know you can't review like London or...

No, I don't know why Google don't let you do that, to be honest. No, I think. I put, I sent a couple of unfavorable reviews the other day on some, I really pissed off the other day because I stayed in quite a nice hotel for something, which I fucking paid for obviously. Yep. And the fucking TV kept turning off and on in the middle of the night.

And I couldn't get around the back of the TV because it was flat against the wall to turn off at the plug. Oh, right, okay. Well, what did you do then? You know one of those things where you're right on the limit of just going, do you know what, I need to go downstairs and tell them.

But it was like 3 a.m. So I just fucking didn't bother. And then I get to the home office. Pull out home after that. And for the third week in a row, the delivery guys put my Hello Fresh upside down the doorstep so all the food's ruined. Why would it be ruined? Because they now do it in a way where there's like a little tiny box inside a box, but the

box inside the box hasn't got a lid. And so all the stuff that keeps it cool has separated from the stuff that needed to be kept cool. Oh right okay yeah okay yeah yeah I don't know why they started doing that I just added more cardboard into the mix. Yeah I never complain about stuff normally. Free tin of iron brew this week though. Did you get your free tin of iron brew? I got a free tin of iron brew extra I did yeah. I haven't drunk it yet but I will. Okay, do you want one review from Tesco Superstar in Gairwood near Kingslyn? George Collison says, I got screamed at by a member of staff at the self-service checkout for laughing. I was laughing at my friends and she comes up to me and screams,

why are you laughing? Ha ha ha ha ha! And raised her voice at me. So don't go into there. Ha ha ha and raised a voice at me. So don't go into there It's it's the it's the Tesco Superstore that you cannot In I don't I don't you know what can I just put something out there? Yeah, I don't really rate Tesco No, it's always quite chaotic. Isn't it? I Just don't think the product produce is that good a quality. I would say, Luke, Job... No, it's pretty much the same, isn't it?

I'm just all about the same. The meal deals are pretty good. Speaking of meal deals, Job says, no Pepsi Max 4 meal deal, 4311, 24. Had to get Coke Zero. One star. No, I can feel that. I prefer Pepsi Max. I prefer Petri Max.

I mean, probably go down to three stars for that. There's the problem with that. The fundamental flaw with reviewing things is people only ever go one or five. No one wants to give a three about anything. No, it's a good point. People are kind of either black or white, really. Samantha says, this is the last one.

This morning at eight or five a.m., my friend dropped a single Smartie on the floor and I got shouted at by a worker to pick it up and proceeded to tell me that someone can trip over. A single Smartie from the pick and mix? I thought that was your job, Barbara! I don't know her name but she looks like a Barbara or a Claire. She looked old. Oh, love at the end.

Absolutely love it. That's one of your YouTube comments. Stick to radio and proceeding. He looks like a Barbara or a Claire, stick to radio. Love it, absolutely love it. Right, let's go, off it up this now. Let's get out of here, I've been Pete, you've been Luke, and we'll be back on Monday.

Thursday, Peter, it's Monday today. Fuck's sake. You've got a 50-50 chance of getting it right if you assume you're not interested in the days of week anyway. Fucking virgins. Ha ha ha! you're not interested in the days of week anyway. I'm a virgin. Hahaha!