The Luke and Pete Show - Return of the Cliff Richard

Episode Date: October 10, 2022

Luke starts the show by expressing his displeasure for comedy as a genre. He better not read the description of this podcast… Once we have gotten passed that, the lads tell us about 2 different, but equally impressive, trips to the theatre that they have been on and Luke gets wound up by the idea of a Cliff Richard Christmas album.Can you think of something that will wind Luke up? Email: [e-mail] or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the Luke and Pete show It is Monday Luke's Monday the 10th of October Would you believe Mine is Pete Donaldson Joined by Luke Moore At this point I will be Heading back into London

After a week away So i hope you're keeping well hope you've hope you've stayed out of trouble for the last week all right hope you've you know kept your head down stayed safe you can't do anything about it by now if they haven't can you you're supposed to say that ahead of time not afterwards good point actually yes yeah um peter what's um what's floating your boat i've got something i want to talk to you about that i forgot to mention a week or so ago. I... Oh, yeah, go on then.

Well, I was just going to say that I went to the Royal Albert Hall. Yes. Which, by the way, is a really great place. Yeah. Can we agree on that? I've not actually seen anything in the main hall. I've seen some comedy in the little halls,

the little side rooms. Oh, you're so alternative. Yeah, well, you know. Why'd you go and see some comedy? What's fucking wrong with you? What do you mean? Well, there's nothing I wanted to watch at the Royal Albert Hall that night. Is there any other kind of medium where

such a high percentage of it is so shit, yet it's still popular? Honestly, I just don't know i don't know what has gone wrong with you that you find comedy so offensive it's not comedy i love comedy i love being made to laugh because obviously that's you know this is a central part of being a human being peter the uh need to laugh i just don't like um people trying to make you laugh overgrown students who've done nothing in their life making up stories to self-honour.

You sound like Jeremy Clarkson. Yeah, but that's fine. In the Laguna. I don't care. That's all you're doing. On every podcast that you're on, that's all you're doing. It's just people expressing themselves and over-emphasising and exaggerating how they really feel. I think you'll find it's a bit more of an art to what I do,

Pete. I have to remember footballers' names. I don't. That's the one thing I don't do. Anyway, what was I talking about? Yeah, so stop getting upset about comedy. Stop putting your cardigan on and fucking rattling

your tin for the National Union of Students and watching comedy from some bloke. I am wearing a cardigan. It's cold, isn't it? From some posh bloke telling us why we should all be nicer to poor people. Right, okay. Embarrassing. Anyway, Royal Albert Hall.

I went there to watch a comedian I like called... No, I didn't read it. I went to the Royal Albert Hall because, and this is a great bit of a ripe content for you to laugh at me for. Right. Went to go see Return of the Jedi, Pete. How have you gone from doing what you just said

to doing this? With the London Symphony Orchestra playing the soundtrack along live. In the lagoon. I would only find this interesting if every last word... Come on, Hammond! Every last word was like...

Every last word spoken in Return of the Jedi, there was a little violin doing the exact same pitch. What they did is there was a rogue... I am your father! There was a rogue... No, there was a rogue there was a there was a rogue trumpeter in the orchestra they couldn't identify who after every time someone said

something he just went like that it really took everyone out of it but it was really cool because they showed it's like being basically being in a gigantic cinema with a huge screen showing.

I think they showed the 1997 version of Return of the Jedi, which actually isn't as good as the original one. That's fine. With the London Symphony Orchestra doing the music live. So they're all watching the movie as well in front of them with a timer and with their music. And they're playing the soundtrack along to it. You tell me that's not good? It's brilliant. It is good, but I mean watching an orchestra doing anything is really good.

Agreed. But I don't know. You'd rather watch fucking James Acaster, would you? In fucking mumbo-jumbo's Breckmore. I'm not even a fan of James Acaster, and yes I would actually, because I'm not that big a fan of Star Wars,

so it would be kind of lost on me a little bit. Well, it's not a difficult concept to grasp, is it, Star Wars? It's all fucking space pixies, isn't it? You can tell which ones are good and which ones are bad just by what they're named. It's not difficult. Friend of the show, Doc Brown, he's in a Star Wars show, isn't he? Do you want to hear a crap claim to fame?

Go on then. When he found out- I told him about Star Wars. No, when he found out he was going to be in it, he was on his bike, riding to come meet me for lunch. Oh,

there you go. And he told me quite early on, I wasn't asked to tell anyone, even that my Star Wars mad wife I have access to, who, to be fair to you, Ben, if you're listening,

apologies for this but I did tell her straight away but no one told anyone else yeah I remember I haven't seen it yet though is he good in it

I haven't seen it again again not a fan of Star Wars I'm probably never going to see him but maybe do you like any of that stuff do you like sci-fi and fantasy

tell me any of it that you actually like I like Blade Runner oh it's just so cool isn't it stop trying to be cool all the time how. Oh, it's just so cool, isn't it? Stop trying to be cool all the time. How is that cool? There's like two films. You won't actually have heard

of the science fiction films that I like. I'm a big fan of the Fritz Lang's Metropolis. Fuck off. I like Metropolis Fritz Lang. It was always... My dad had a video of that that he'd recorded off the telly, I think. And it was always in the stack of VHS in front of the television. always uh my dad had a video of that uh that he'd recorded off the telly i think and he'd

and it was always in the stack of vhs in front of the television uh and it said like metropolis and in parenthesis i said uh fritz lang i was like you didn't do that dad yeah everyone says that it's a great um so when i when i went to college technical college uh to do media stuff back in the turn of the century yeah there i was i was ensconced with a load of film study students because they just live in the same halls as us and that was a massive touch point for boring students but the conversation was either legalized weed or um am i a fan of films i'll let you be the judge of that when i tell you that my favorite film is metropolis by Fritz Lang.

That's the only way I can contextualise it, basically. Yeah, I like the bit where Freddie Mercury turns up. Yeah, we all do. We all like that. So you are a fan of Blade Runner. Remember when you famously spoiled Game of Thrones for me? I didn't. I literally said there was a coffee cup. Someone had put a coffee cup in it. That's not spoiler... That's not canon, is it?

I mean, it doesn't... I mean, I guess it being on the television means that that coffee cup is indeed canon. Have they done anything coffee cup-wise in the new Game of Thrones

as a little motif? A little motif? A little nod. A little nod. Yeah, a little nod. A little nod to how incompetent the old gang were correct which by the way they were i don't know if i told you this but when i was when we were in new york

um when would it have been it might have been for our tour in 2019 i it might have been a time before i went to new york my friend michael he works in that industry and um this was before the final season of game of thrones came out yeah and he was saying to me over lunch um that like they the two guys who are running game of thrones are like a laughingstock and as soon as they run out of the written material it's going to be a shit show he was honestly saying all this stuff like he was a prophet and whatever transpired transpired but he said they were like they were so bad it was like it was like a joke how they got the job

and it's obviously very indicative that this new season which I think has actually been pretty good so far they're not involved and what is an interesting I think dichotomy is the fact that House of the Dragon which is this

prequel to Game of Thrones, which is out now, it's about five or six episodes in, maybe seven or so, and Rings of Power, Lord of the Rings, Amazon Prime, gamble that they've chucked a billion, literally a billion dollars into.

They've aired them at the same time, which is very odd because Rings of Power, I think, comes across very badly in comparison to the tried and trusted kind of quite swashbuckling, fast-paced nature of House of the Dragon. Yeah, okay. So are you watching both of them?

Yeah. Right. Well, Mimi's obsessed with it. She loves a lot of stuff. Yeah, yeah. How does it tie in with the original kind of TV shows? What, House of the Dragon or Lord of the Rings or what? House of the rings or what uh house the dragon so house the dragon is set like 170 years before the events at the start of game of thrones right it's a targaryen dynasty which is the big powerful

house with the dragons before they all die out so it's when they're in there i guess it's kind of when they're in their pomp really and then and then lord of the Rings, the Rings of Power, is set, I think, in the second age, so way before the Lord of the Rings. And what I think Amazon did is that it's like a weird arrangement. I don't know if you've seen this, but the arrangement was they paid loads of money

for the rights to, essentially, a load of the characters and a load of the glossaries of what Tolkien wrote. So there's not actually any IP there. They had to invent it themselves, I think. Oh, interesting. That's an interesting way of going about it. Yeah, and it's basically

a big gamble. I actually think it's been really slow-paced. And I'd be interested to know what our listeners think. Not like a Lord of the Rings film, is it? Well, the thing is, compared to that, I mean, it's much more slow-paced, I would say. But the observation, I was actually chatting to your friend of mine, Jim Campbell, about this, and he agreed with me.

But he is a very agreeable chap, so he probably just thinks, oh, shut up, Luke, get on with this. What they do, Pete, is this weird thing. And we were talking about TV, weren't we, an episode or two ago, and we were talking about it in constructive reality and how they tempo it and how they pace it and stuff. Rings of Power is paced in such a weird way, and everything

is written and performed to be with such gravitas that almost it becomes meaningless because everything's like that so the kind of the crescendo happens in every plot point on every scene's the point when you get about 40 minutes in of a one hour 20 minute episode you think it's about to end but it never does so it ends up becoming exhausting like by the time it actually ends you feel like you've been for about six endings already which i think is a really odd way of pacing a tv show yeah well look our opinions on how to pace a tv show very different to the people who actually create the television i find yeah frequently and you've not even watched any of this so you can't even contribute so i can't even contribute no no but anyway so going back to what i was talking

about went to go and see um return of the jedi at the london symphony orchestra and with the london symphony orchestra what i found quite interesting is that star wars generally is so egalitarian and so popular that you get such a weird mixed bag of people turning up so i was basically we were sat in front of like three lads like older lads with like cans of beer and stuff right fuck me look at all the people there are in here fuck you now but you never seen a film with this many people before dave nah fuck me i was like not really expected shut up they left at half time. Did they? Okay, they probably got scared of all the people.

Yeah, they left. They just left. Yeah. Get down the boozer. And then in front of us were like some nerds, like super nerds, but who had brought their own lightsabers. Nice. I like that. It's a real mixed bag, mate. Got a lot of time for that. Fantastic. And

the other thing I was going to mention is that I went to go and see the theater production of life of pie as well right that is the tiger and the on the boat is it tell us the plot of life of pie just do it now off the top of your head uh a boy i'll give you a mark at the end end. A boy, I don't know how he gets there, finds himself on a boat, a little dinghy with a tiger. And I think... Honey sandwiches? Is that the... Did you say sandwiches?

Honey sandwiches. Wasn't it like on a beautiful pea green boat? And they just float around and he goes insane and the whole crux of the film slash book slash theatre show is him just fucking going absolutely loopy because he's just hanging out on a boat with a lion. I've changed from tiger now. And he just slowly goes mad

because it's like the R rhyme of the ancient mariner but there's a there's a tiger there's a big cat my introduction to the rhyme of the ancient mariner is purely the iron maiden song right okay fair which is brilliant um and then the great thing that bruce dickinson does as um lead singer of iron maiden when you see him live is he insists upon introducing every song before it's being played in a mad voice. You know when you go and watch a gig and they just play songs and then maybe there's a little bit of chatting between the songs and they don't tell you what the songs

are. Every time you go and watch Iron Maiden Bruce Dickinson will just go The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner! And they'll start playing it. He does that for every single song. It's great. But on the Life of Python, you are pretty much spot on, I'd say.

A bit of detail missing there, but that's about right. But the theatre production is really good. And I'll tell you why. It's the first time I've seen this. It's the same, but with revels. Yeah. And he's allergic to some of them, like you.

He's not eating revels. You're eating the revels. No, he's eating the revels. Okay, right. Yeah. And the theme tune is Revel. You're eating the Revels. No, he's eating the Revels. Okay, right. Yeah. And the theme tune is Revel, Revel, my David Bowie. I mean, I guess you could get on stage and sit in the boat with him and go, and now I'm in the boat.

Yeah. It's an experiential theatre. We're both in the same boat. So finally, I'm going to get to this. First of all, we had a real touch because we we've got we sat up in the top bit in the circle whatever you call it up in the gods sitting there and literally 60 uh public school boys and girls came in on a kind of outing oh no and i was like my heart just sank right this other couple come over to us and say oh excuse me i think you're um you're sat in our

seats looked at the tickets we're in the wrong seats. So we dodged a bullet there. So you moved away and found other seats away from the kids? It was, mate, it was honestly, obviously I didn't sit in their section for the actual bit, but as we were waiting for it to start, all you could hear was, oh my God, this is actually really high up.

And oh my God, I actually feel sick. and uh oh my god i actually feel sick i feel sick because i'm so high up i'm actually afraid of heights i don't know i love voices you do look a picture in that voice all the time oh my god might be a bit annoying oh my god um so anyway we moved so that was good right but what they did in the theater production which i've never seen done before and i think you'll be interested in this and then maybe you've seen it before but i haven't so it's set in the hospital where the kid, as you've described, suffers his trauma

and it's a flashback thing. So he's being interviewed and talked to by these experts about what's happened. And when he's in the hospital, he's in this bed in the hospital room and they're interviewing him.

When he goes on his flights of fancy, it flashes back. The bed turns around into the base of the little boat and the rest of the boat appears from out the bottom of the stage and then when he's on the boat all these lights are simulating the storm and everything but there's parts of the stage it clearly all the other actors are choreographed not to tread on but they look like parts of the stage as in made of wood yeah but they're made of this like neoprene stuff so when he jumps off the boat he can dive into the stage

what it looks like water and he can pop up somewhere else like he's gone underwater and come up again that's cool i can't really tell you if the play was any good or not because what i could think about was that was the neoprene go go do the dive again do the dive again that's really cool yeah no it was good it was really it was really well done it was uh i really enjoyed the book anyway i've not seen the film but the theater production itself was uh was very enjoyable peter lovely i went to the theater recently i did i went uh on monday to for a rare excursion to abba the whatever the fucking live show is. Oh, you did? That's right. Was it called Voyage? It's called Voyage.

It's called Voyage. Sarah had access to the... The partner I have access to had access to free tickets. So we went there. Is it hard to get tickets generally? I think it's all sold out. So it's a purpose-built... If you look on Google Maps, it's a car park so it's a purpose built uh it's if you look on

google maps it's it's a car park and it's a purpose built kind of it's funny because it looks like an ikea kind of exposed nice uh flat thing and and and it is flat pack they'll take it down at the end of the show and then take it somewhere else in europe once uh once that's gassed out but um yeah so it's a purpose built uh little kind of thing in east london near stratford and uh yeah you sit down and it's basically a music like uh it's holograms or something one of those kind of uh i forget what they call it it's not actually a hologram but it's kind of like a uh uh you can sort of see the ABBA singers and performers on stage it's like a motion capture scene with ILM

isn't it? so it's I'm trying to think now it's a big animation a big animation number where they've basically recreated ABBA as they were in the 70s basically

it's a big movie effectively right but parts of that movie take place on big screens to the to the left and right of the stage like you would at normal concert but most of it happens with these little uh little chaps uh these little uh far away little uh ABBA uh Bjorn and whatever they're called uh all of ABBA are just kind of like really far away. But it looks like a proper gig. It basically looks like a proper gig. I'm explaining this about as terribly as I possibly could.

I have people that are kind of used to that. ABBA, ABBA doing a gig, but instead of them really being there, it's just animation. But the actual technology that allows you to see them on the stage is astonishingly good it actually looks like they have depth it looks like they're they're really there the close-up sort of facial stuff

doesn't look quite as good as you know it's that classic kind of uh final fantasy animation kind of like uh uncanny valley kind of style uh it's too real for its own good effectively and so yeah uh we watched uh abba do an hour and a half of their songs including a couple of new ones which nobody was really into but uh it only took like a little only took like about two songs for people to really get into it uh i wouldn't say it's probably worth what we would have paid which is like 150 quid or something for the extra uh because we had like an extra bit of food or whatever before. I don't think you should really sort of do that. And there are kind of cheaper options.

You can stand in the pit and dance around for 50 quid, I think. So it's probably worth doing that. But yeah, it was really, really interesting, kind of purpose-built, technologically advanced ABBA celebration. So there's something for little Donny to enjoy there, my admiration of the technology, probably. Yeah, exactly. That was what I was watching it for, effectively.

So the ABBA story, I mean, generally, I've not seen that show, but I've heard it's amazing. And the whole ABBA story is generally, I find, fascinating. And they were obviously amazing. But the songs that those two guys, Benny and Bjorn, have written are so good, so tight, some of the best pop songs ever written, right?

Yeah. And their popularity, I think, even now, still goes a little bit understated, particularly among young people, because they've not been around for so long. But in 2000, they were offered a billion dollars to reform, right? And they said no. A billion dollars?

Yeah. And then they wanted, I think they finally wanted, because there's a lot of stuff that went on in the dynamic between the four and i think fairly recently i finally felt they got past that and they wanted to do something again but they felt like i think fairly they didn't want to be here's some old versions of us when we're not quite as good and we can't do anything that we used to do so they came up with this um this kind of concept with these with i guess with these event people and these tech people and it's it's like the highest it's the most expensive live show ever isn't it like it costs like 200 million dollars to put together which is fascinating because it's still only a fifth of

what they're offered to do to do it themselves so everyone's saving money i suppose and haven't they and the one thing i read that was that fascinated me about it as well was when they first announced it and they decided they were going to go ahead with it, didn't they book the residency for like five years knowing it would be sold out continuously for all that time? Yeah, I can imagine that. That's even before they move it somewhere else.

So the appetite is absolutely extraordinary. And it's great to hear that the show is actually good because the songs really do. I mean, it's not really naturally the music I tend to listen to but i can admire how good it is and i think it is worthy of they need to do something that's worthy of the iconic nature of the songs they've created because they are classics right they're just part of part of the fabric of life really now aren't they yeah they certainly are and i you know that was kind of probably the only band that was heard in my house uh when i was growing up like my mom uh i remember that kind of it was a rival uh i think it might

be the album arrival where the four of them are in front of a uh a really 80s looking small helicopter um and it looks so cheap like wonderfully 80s it's a mid-70s record though mate because they were pretty much done by the 80s. Were they? Right, okay. Yeah, so they must have been. The 70s helicopter. Yeah. But it's weird, isn't it?

Because don't you feel like the 70s and the 80s, to an extent, they blur a bit? Because if you look, one of the real pioneers of that thing is David Bowie. You look at David Bowie, so look at him on the cover of Diamond Dogs. He looks 80ss but it's yes a mid 70s

record because he's so far ahead of his time so influential that people start copying him in the 80s take quite a long time to sort of catch up a little bit yeah

let's um let's have a break because we haven't done a break yet let's do a break and we'll come back in a minute all right we're back with a look at Pete Shaw

Pete and Luke doing their stuff on on the on the internet not the real just on the internet just on the internet just on the internet would you do a radio show now pete if someone offered you it on this form no no terrible anyone want to hear that i mean maybe we could play some music i don't know i think the best thing that could happen to luke and pete show is that they finally allow us to play some music I don't know I think the best thing that could happen to Luke and Pete Shaw is that they finally allow us to play music just to give people a bit of

rest the last thing you've ever done on mainstream radio was a burp right correct you'd like to protect that legacy

you want one of kind of yeah quite yeah quite proud I think in many it'd be like Ric Flair's last match like we

didn't need to see it we didn't need to see him uh blading and cutting his head open and not reading where he is at the age of like 94

yeah did you did you so I want to finish today's show by just doing this email here from John if that's okay with you yeah okay

you've got a take on this he says hi Jess just read the headline joy to the world Cliff Richard to release new Christmas album I refuse to find that more but respectfully request Luke to investigate and report back to the world, Cliff Richard to release new Christmas album. I refuse to find out more, but respectfully request Luke to investigate

and report back to the listenership. Love your work, John Rendell. Now, I've been on the record a few times saying I think Cliff Richard is the worst human being in Britain. I do think that still. He's 81 now, God bless him. And he said he's announced earlier, I think it's last month-ish, that he is going to put out his first dedicated Christmas album

in almost 20 years. He's going to call it an album of classics. He's going to include things like Joy to the World, Jingle Bell Rock, First Christmas, Six Days After Christmas, Heart of Christmas, all these kind of combination, basically, of classics and these new songs that he's, I guess, apparently written. Do we need it? I'm going to say no.

I think this is flogging a dead horse to a ridiculous level. And I'm struggling to think of, with respect to Cliff, Sir Cliff, who's the audience for this? I mean, a rapidly dwindling audience, I might posit. And I fear, I mean, COVID might have seen a lot of his fans off i'm just saying like his his kind of age of of fan and and uh yeah i mean good god um a lot of them will will be uh uh god loving god fearing people who who may not have even wanted the vaccine because they've got the big guy upstairs the anti-vax community

that's what I wanted to know yeah I'm just I'm just looking at kind of like Cliff like it's I mean 81 years old

his first dedicated Christmas album in nearly two decades Christmas with Cliff bringing together an album of classics including Joy to the World

Jingle Bell Rock and The Most Wonderful Time of the Year new tracks will include first he strikes me as a man who opens his presents Album of classics including Joy to the World, Jingle Bell Rock and The Most Wonderful Time of the Year. New tracks will include First Christmas. He strikes me as a man who opens his presents after tea on a Christmas day. He's that kind of chap for me. The thing I don't fully understand

is why no one has properly picked up on how arrogant he is. He's like the most arrogant man ever. I don't know if you saw, but when he said, he did that fucking abysmal song, which was basically the Lord's Prayer to the tune of Auld Lang Syne. Right.

And no one wanted it. I mean, it's as bad as that, as I've just described it, is how bad it is. And he was giving interviews, because obviously people will just do they'll interview cliff right because he's cliff right and um he was saying stuff like you know uh yeah when i first had the idea it's like all the genius ideas i've had you know it's

really simple and no one's picking him up on it like if if fucking cristiano ronaldo said that the world would go mad and then and it's the wimbledon thing as well that pisses me off he gets up there and he and he starts singing and he doesn't give a shit if anyone fucking wants to hear it or not because they're actually here to see tennis he thinks oh people will automatically love this because i'm cliff richard makes me sick well because you're in a little bit of a bubble when you were successful uh with your genius ideas as you how do you know as cliff richard the the uh so richard said he'd always loved being in recording studios since time spent in 1958 in Studio 2, Abbey Road,

famous for its use by artists including the Beatles, etc. I recorded this album in Criteria Studios in Miami, Florida, 4,427 miles away from Abbey Road, said Cliff. And once again, I felt I was in a world of my own. It's just nonsense. Why are you linking Abbey Road to just you happen to be in Miami? What are the kids like these days? Abbey Road, the Beatles?

They guided me through the well-known Christmas songs and freed me to sing them my way. They are differing approaches to the songs that I asked them to produce for me, and they gave this album the dynamics that I had hoped for. I mean, good God. Come on. songs that i asked them to produce for me and they gave us on the dynamics that i had hoped for i mean good god come on you know you know like you know if you type any famous person to google and put the word quotes after there's those websites that aggregate all the famous quotes from famous people right i think it's called az quotes or something yeah and the top one for cliff richard

is the following she's just a devil woman with evil on her mind. Beware the devil woman, she's going to get you. She's just a devil woman with evil on her mind. And the tags for that quote are Halloween, evil, and mind. That's the contribution Cliff's made. Has he got a TikTok? Oh, I don't know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know that.

He will do. He just will do. Cliff Richard, TikTok. Yeah, I think that's, is that is that cliff rich i was just somebody uploading oh god it is just people uploading cliff richard stuff cliff richard official let's have a look see what's up here no no i don't think he does have a tick tock that's a shame that's why would he have there's no way he's got a tick tock because people uh older people and us uh are quite into TikTok and I think he should be

getting involved in TikTok. Maybe a launch one for this album. We're not auditioning for a fucking podcast, Pete. I saw everyone talks about podcast meetings now. Have you got TikTok?

Ah, TikTok! Why are you so loud all the time? What's your TikTok strategy? Because we need to work out what a TikTok strategy is going to be, actually. What kind of clips are we going to put on TikTok? Oh, he's such a bell piece.

He is. So there you go. I hope that satisfies your craving, John, for me to lose my mind about Cliff Richard. To be fair to Pete, he's backed me up there. Normally he wouldn't do that. He would probably say that it's fine. I don't understand why you get so upset about stand-up comedians,

but Cliff Richard, I think I can get on board because the man is cringe. I'd rather listen to Cliff Richard talking on stage than most comedians. Well, you know those celebrated videos of Elvis doing bits in between the songs and stuff? He's just really good at trying to spook his back end singers out, just eating the microphone, telling jokes and stuff.

I would love to see 50 years of Cliff Richards badinage in between songs because that man... But that's another thing people have forgotten about Cliff. He makes my testicles retreat into my body. Yeah. between Simon because that man he makes my testicles retreat into my body yeah does it upset you Luke because obviously the BBC the BBC

paid two million pounds to him apologising for what they'd done nah that was bad by them well you have technically

as a man who pays his TV licence you've I reckon a couple of pennies out of that, you've given directly to Cliff Richard to do his Joy to the World album. And people would say, oh yeah, but if you

drop two pence on the floor, do you bend down and pick it up? I do, actually. That does hurt me a lot. You talk about Elvis there, you know that Cliff used to style himself and literally market himself as the British Elvis for years. Yeah, I guess a lot of people did back then

but it seems particularly egregious because the man has no charisma. Yeah, you're just a singer. What the fuck have you got to do? Yeah, look, we could do this all day. Let's not. Let's go. But I've annoyed myself, including Cliff Richard, into this. I should have just thought, you know what, I thought to myself

you'll get through this, fine. It's annoyed me now, so we're going to have to go. Thank you very much for listening. We will be back for the show on Thursday, later in the week. Looking forward to that. Peter, look after yourself, won't you? Be safe. Goodbye, all.

I will. But yeah, when I say look after yourself, be safe, and you just say goodbye, all, it doesn't sound good. So say yes, thank you very much, and then say goodbye all yeah see you later bye the Luke and Pete show is a stack production and part of the Acast creator network