The Luke and Pete Show - School of Boss

Episode Date: January 30, 2023

Luke's redecorating his house. Should he make wallpaper out of screenshots of his best tweets? The answer is obviously yes.Elsewhere, Pete reveals he's never seen School of Rock and we hear about a Mafia boss that survived 30 years on the run. We'll let you decide which piece of news is more shocking...Want to get in touch with the show? Email: [e-mail] or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Happy Monday all It's the 30th of January I'm Pete Donaldson and this is the Luke and Pete Show But where's the Luke compliment of that particular situation? Here he is He's in his room

Hello Luke in your room Here I am How do you do? Oh what was that now? That was the little finger song wasn it, when you were a kid? Oh, yes. I thought he was singing Hello... Remember the Hello Johnny song?

Do you remember Hello Johnny? Well, it was like a man with a moustache. Hello Johnny song. And it was like... That's not help. I don't think it was Hello Johnny, no, because I think Wien wrote a song

called Hello Johnny, and the cover is. This is an absolutely brilliant example of someone who's coming to this show for the first time, what to expect. What's the Hello Son song? It was like,

Hello, and he had a little moustache. It was a song for kids, and the dad had a little moustache, and he was from Central CGI casting and he went and he was talking about telling his kid not to eat so much food don't eat so much

food he was saying too much sugar free licorice today hello son food song no that's not it either. Someone will find it. Anyway, doesn't matter. While Pete slowly unravels,

the song I was doing was, it's like you did the different fingers on the hand. So Tommy Thumb. Yeah. Peter Pointer. Right. Policeman Tall was the middle one. Yeah.

Ruby Ring was the third finger. And then Baby Small was the little finger. Baby what? Small. Baby small. And you sing it to a baby or whatever to let them know what their finger is. That's very cute.

I don't know where it came from. I just thought of it, and I just sang it. I don't know why. Hello, Johnny. It was. He had quite a thick kind of South Asian accent. I can't figure it out. It's just getting weirder and weirder. It's just getting weirder and weirder. It sounds like a Pete Donaldson soundboard. It's just getting weirder and weirder.

It sounds like a Pete Donaldson soundboard. It's just getting weirder and weirder. Hey, Luke, did you see that little forwarding of a estate agent's listing in the WhatsApp group? I haven't clicked on it.

Let me look at it now. You intro it. Basically, I don't know who owned this house, they basically i think they were trying to sell it as like um a house that's dedicated to crypto and nfts and stuff like that and uh they put it on the they put it on the the market for like over like 1.2 million, I think. It's in North Hollywood, California. And built in 1952, just a normal kind of like wooden, fucking big old Californian house. And they put it on for like 100,

sorry, 1.2 million. And they keep on having to sort of cut it because they've just created this absolutely monstrous bloody house. They've called it a crypto house. And they've just created this absolutely monstrous bloody house. They've called it the Crypto House and they've got like big signs up saying Crypto House. And all of like the hearths

around the fireplaces. One of the rooms is decorated with Twitter screenshots. Yeah, it's just kind of like they've sort of decorated it with like, they've just made it look absolutely horrific but they've got like loads of um uh you know the crypto punks they're like really shit nfts with uh you've got the apes you've got the crypto punks yeah and they're kind of nfts

that have literally no artistic flair to them at all they're just these modular pixelated monstrosities i mean out of out of the shower of shit which is the nft um space even for them i mean it's absolutely atrocious they've put um bitcoin uh uh signs on the wall uh they've put like um green fake um grass inside the house in the bedrooms and stuff which i'm not massively against but it does make it look like an influencer house. Why are you not against that? I think it would feel really nice on the old, I've just seen the Twitter, I think it would feel really nice on the old feet. Yeah, I've just noticed they've decorated one of the rooms with tweets.

I wonder what those tweets are. I bet it's all about crypto and NFTs and stuff like that and going to the moon. I've just clicked a box saying, no, I would not like a tour of this property. teas and stuff like that and going to the moon i've just clicked a box saying no i would not like a tour of this property it's just astonishing but i just said because you're obviously someone who's who's uh spent a bit dropped a bit of coin on uh on a recent refurbishment do you think you've missed out on doing something like this well the way i see it is like if it was like a complete car crush of a house and they were selling it super cheap because of that. It's not the worst idea in the world to get it because

essentially if you're paying... Just a bit of wallpaper, isn't it? Yeah, if you're paying way under the odds for bricks and mortar, then you do a refurb. I mean, you're going to spend a fraction of the money you've saved refurbing it and it's a bit of upheaval. It's a pain in the arse and I'm living through that right now. But long term, I think

it's a pretty good idea. I've got no beef with it, mate. You've got no beef with it. But no, but the actual design itself, do you think you should put some of your best tweets? You could put that on the wall behind you. You could cover the wall that you're in, the room that you're in now with your best tweets.

More successful drops on Twitter. Probably be the smallest wall. The thing is, this is a shame about this whole thing i i've been on twitter for ages and i don't think i've i can't think of a single tweet i've done where i've gone that's a fucking really good tweet whereas you've done loads right what do you mean as in what you've never pressed what you've never pressed send and you thought that's gonna bang no i have loads of times but i hate it i think it's a hateful place and i'm i'm every time i i put a little thing out it never

bangs and i go i'm just a bit it just sort of fortifies that i'm a bit of a fucking dickhead no but i think every time i've got a theory about your output and i think i've shared it before maybe not on this show though so i'll share it again now so you are really good right you're really creative your stuff's really good and i personally really like it which i guess is probably what's brought part of the reason it's brought us together but the problem is and it pissed me off when i realized this because obviously it's affected my bottom line to quite a great extent you're not mainstream right so your shit never goes over it never crosses over you're almost you're almost like i don't know you're like talking heads like you do enough to to be able to get by and you'll make some money and you'll sell some records and you'll do some crossover bits here and there

but you're never going to be accepted by the mainstream i just think that i think that um it upsets me every time I post something on social media and it's kind of like I've not explained that. Every time I click send and nobody likes it, I always go, you've not explained that. You've gone to that thinking that people have a lot of knowledge that they don't have and you've not explained yourself. It's arrogance, if anything.

It's arrogance. You probably think the same way as me. You don't need and you've not explained yourself it's arrogance if anything it's arrogance this video you probably think the same way as me you don't need this piece of information i think i think that you're that's that's not just twitter though yeah yeah that's just my life generally but at least here i can ask i mean me tweeting what was that song about hello johnny stop eating all the food uh i would get a response but it's not it's not like it's not social media is it you're not you're not adding anything to the conversation your response you'll get will just be from hot and horny singles in your area you do whenever like you do you're involved or cc'd in on a tweet that's from like a popular account like a broad in japan or football ramble

or whatever like about a month later, you will get just weird sex bots kind of retweeting or replying or something. I think it's got much worse since Musk's... Yeah, probably. There's probably something to be said for that. They've turned all the third-party API access off, haven't they? But, yeah, you just sort of think these women that they've used the photographs

for, they're out there. They're there. Like, you know, that's somebody's life that, you know, obviously they've presumably put those pictures out there on the internet, but, like, they're out there. They're there. That's somebody's life. Obviously, they presumably put those pictures out there on the internet, but they're not tracking their picture getting used all over the gaff. It's mad. Absolutely mad. I assume that the photos would just be

from stock images that you agreed to get paid to pose for and then you just sold your rights away. Nah, just steal them, don't they? Just go, woman, tiny waist, big boobs. But that does happen though, right? People do do that, right? Well, like stock images.

Yeah, people use stock images. Yeah, definitely. But I don't think a bot farm really gives a shit about intellectual property. Well, that's probably fair, yeah. Speaking of nothing like this at all, but you mentioned earlier this this is how ridiculous my brain is earlier on you mentioned the word mustache and um i watched

the first season of white lotus oh yeah yeah okay have you seen it i've not seen the first season i've seen the second season oh because i didn't realize it was standalone so i think i might have had a bit of a pop at you last time when you said that but they're standalone scenes like the first season's really really good and um right the guy who runs the hotel has got an amazing mustache he's a brilliant character it's a really good series by the way yeah i should go back and watch it um i'm trying to think who's in it i can't remember well the season season one's got alexandra daddario in it it's got um sydney Daddario in it it's got um Sydney Sweeney in it it's got um

oh one or two others um right oh Jennifer Coolidge is in it and she's in season two as well yes with um Christopher Moltisanti

which is always great to see I sort of only I only sort of with with Coolidge um I've only just recently

figured out the joke what do you mean because I well like in every role I've only just recently figured out the joke. What do you mean? Well, like, in every role I've ever seen her, she kind of plays similar characters where she's, like, a bit broken and she does disappointed very well and stuff like that. She's a character actor, isn't she? Yeah, but it's one character,

and I just thought that she was just a bit of, like, you know, an older kind, glamorous woman kind of vibe. And I didn't realise she did ten years in the fucking footlings. Is it footlings? No. Groundlings. She's a proper, studied... I just thought she was playing the same character every time. But she's in on the fucking joke, and she's found a bit of a niche,

and she does that pretty much every time. But she's got proper fucking chops and I didn't give her the time of day really. I didn't realise that she was so well kind of respected in the industry. Why do you think you didn't respect her? I don't know. I just thought it was just kind of like, because I think the first time I saw her she was doing Stifler's Mum and Stifler's Mum is kind of the same character as White Lotus

and probably I haven't seen her in many versatile roles. But yeah, maybe just haven't sort of run into her a lot. But I didn't realize she was a real comedy actor that knew what was going on. I just thought she was like just playing the same character every time. When people act

to the level where they're in that kind of thing, they do tend to know what's happening though. Yeah, you'd hope so, wouldn't you? Yeah. I mean, it's not just like you and me. I've just got no respect for actors. We're just fucking making shit up as we go along. They are actually doing it, I think.

I thought the first season was really good. I kind of felt like it was... I don't know if I'm explaining myself well, but it felt, obviously, it's got a bit of the Wes Anderson about it. Yeah, okay. I also felt a bit like it was going to turn really sinister, but it felt obviously it's got a bit of the wes anderson about it yeah okay i also felt a bit like it was gonna turn really sinister but it never actually did and i also i kind of is sinister in its own way it's kind of like white supremacist kind of wealthy people kind of way i get i get the

obvious kind of overtones but i also didn't realize that it's written directed created by the guy who plays ned schneebly in school of rock i didn't see that one coming either do you know the guy who plays the kind of henpecked boyfriend of sarah silverman in school of rock who jack black's character impersonates luke i've never seen school of what it's a classic is it it's a real classic mate it's a real classic honestly there will be listeners all over the country, and indeed the world, recoiling at that news. Come on. It's a great movie. Really good.

I bloody enjoyed season one. I shall definitely indulge in season two, although I haven't yet. But I realise that it's like the same type of thing, but just set in a different place with different characters, which uh interesting um pete i was gonna say to you did you um see this um story about that um one of it one of italy's top mafia bosses caught after 30 years on the run oh no what did he look like i want to see this where's this well this is the thing it's disappointing because normally they get a lot of plastic surgery done don't they yes and uh so he he's um he was arrested at a private health clinic in i think palermo in

sicily uh he's been on the run since i think 1992 uh matteo messina denaro his name is um and he was wanted for for obviously a load of a load of different crimes but when he was arrested he had like a hat like yours on, actually. And then sunglasses and a jacket up high, so you couldn't really tell what he looked like. That's a shame. But I just thought to myself, he's basically... What they do, these guys, is they live almost in the community,

and everyone in the community knows who they are, but no one will say. No one will kind of... You know what I mean? No one will kind of rat them out basically. Yeah. Um, and I just thought to myself,

it's quite, at what point does it become, I know, I know for them, it's a game to be won and all the rest of it, but at what point, 30 years looking over your shoulder, it's quite a tough thing to do,

right? Maybe it's just like a big relief when it actually happens, like pulling off that plaster, the thing that you've thought about all of your life. And then you're in a situation where someone fingers you collar, so to speak, and you're done really.

Yeah. There'd definitely be an element of relief to it, I think. But you got something, are you still, once you were kind of compromised and the police are looking out for you, like,

can you still run your network? Can you still kind of like, apparently you still have a, right. Okay. So you can still make a bit of cash. Apparently they seized assets related... This is a while ago now.

They seized assets that essentially are linked to him of about $1.4 billion a while back. Right, okay. And the quirkiest part of the story is that obviously Italian authorities have been trying to get hold of this guy for such a long time one of the most white men in the world um like a couple of his family members have been arrested back in the day uh one of his associates was arrested i think 10 or so

years ago um but there was few there weren't hardly any photos of him they were going on like digital composites to to try and reconstruct what he actually looked like. And then apparently in September of 2021, a man was arrested in the Netherlands at gunpoint by Italian police and the operation with Dutch authorities, who just turned out to be a Formula One fan from Liverpool on holiday. What looked like the composite. They just thought he looked like him, yeah. Imagine that

for an experience on your holiday. That would really, you'd get a book out of it, wouldn't you? Messina Di Naro nicknamed Diabolique. Yeah, named after

an Italian comic book character, apparently. Well, presumably Diabolique is, oh, I've just realised, so diabolical. Would that be something connected to Diablo?

The devil, yeah, I guess so,. So Diabolical. Would that be something connected to Diablo? The Devil, yeah. I guess so, yeah. Oh. I think that name's out and about now because he's under lock and key. So I think I'm going to be... I don't have a middle name. Pete Diabolique Donaldson.

Diggory. You've got Diggory. Diggory. All right. Pete Diggory Diabolic Donaldson. I like it. The thing is about that... obviously, he's been suspected of and no doubt involved in all sorts of horrific crimes.

I mean, some of the stuff I read that he'd been sort of linked with is truly horrific, like the worst stuff you can think of. So I'm not defending it, but being that disciplined about being on the run for that amount of time, I don't reckon there's many people that could do that. No. If you watch that Channel 4 show, just look at the whole,

look at the performance. He's the only one who's managed it, I think, surely. I think there are other people. There's a list on Wikipedia, I was looking at it earlier, of criminals that have never been caught.

And there are some that have been around. But then i guess i suppose maybe they could have died and no one talked about it or whatever but like my point being that if you to be genuinely in hiding of course you need a network of people loyal to you which you obviously would have had yeah but i mean you have to essentially think about every single move all the time on the flip side on the flip side of that the guy who wrote gamora the book the book Roberto Saviano, he basically lives a life now, I think even now, years on, where he has to move every three nights or something. He's got a full security detail around the clock. He can't go to certain events because he thinks the Gamora are still trying to kill him. The levels to this are crazy.

And I think if you're on the run for that amount of time you can't you've got to be flawless basically you can't you've got to be so disciplined i just don't think you or i could anywhere near do that i'm looking at all the uh i'm looking at all like a list of criminals who've never been caught and you know this is a funny little show we dick about it oh you know the jack the Ripper. Charlie Chopoff, that's an interesting... Oh, God, yeah, that's horrific. And that's why I never understood how true crime podcasts can do... Like, can have those kind of, like, ha-ha,

like, kind of funny podcasts about some fucking horrific crimes. Yeah. And then, you know, kind of having their cake and eat it a little bit. It's quite difficult difficult isn't it it's good yeah I think I find that some of them

are very unsavoury which is why I was pretty happy when we did the interruption because that's like it is essentially a crime

once died being committed but it's not it's not there's even like quite a successful podcast isn't there called My Favourite Murder

where they basically just talk about their favourite murders that have happened. It's a bit like, I'm not sure, it's not something I would like to do,

put it that way. I watched a bit of, I watched that little documentary about, you know that, do you remember that, do you remember that, Hitchhiker,

from like, something like 10 years ago. He was a hitchhiker and he was like, interviewed on the news after this bloke had gone a bit wacky oh and he went mental with his impression and and he and and he went mad and started trying to kill these people and um this hitchhiker bashed him in the head with a with a with a mallet or an

axe like a little mini mini axe or something um and he uh and soon afterwards he was um arrested for the murder of a man like because but he was this really charismatic kind of um homeless kid who was just like oh i do remember that he was like a surfer dude type guy he's like a surfer dude he like you know he used to run the ride the rails and stuff and do you know just just hang out and go surfing and drink and stuff and he uh he was like the darling of america for about a couple of weeks and then he was arrested for the murder of some bloke it's like wow that was a that was a really quick turnaround is he called um is he known online as kai the hatchet wielding hitchhiker kai the hatchet wielding yeah that guy hitchhiker yeah and he was like and and. Yeah, that guy. Hitchhiker, yeah. And he was like,

and the whole documentary is about him, about this one lucky then sports reporter for a local, I think, Fox affiliate or NBC or something. And he manages to get this kid to get the first interview and the only interview. And he's the only person

to get hold of this kid who's obviously transient in his movements. And obviously he's the darling, he's this kind of like charismatic kind of like, you know, Californian kid. And so all the TV stations want him, you know, reality TV show want a bit of Kai, the hatchet wielding. He was on Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah, and so part of the story is them just getting

him in to do jimmy kimmel and uh it was just just sounds like it's just an absolute like maniac absolutely you know clearly got massive issues but uh but because he's got a quite sunny disposition and it's quite good for a little um a little tv interview uh he he everyone was just looking for him to to for him to make a load of money and be the next big thing but he didn't fancy that and it turns out he killed a bloke he's doing 57 years in prison for murdering a

73 year old man yeah and I mean I will say for anybody who's seen that documentary I would it was an interesting dynamic about how Kai the Hitchhiker managed to find his way into some old boys house

I'm just saying I can understand why he's behind bars I'm just not exactly sure 73 years is commensurate with what seems to have gone on 57 years he's doing

it just seemed like an interesting dynamic commensurate with what seems to have gone on. 57 years he's doing. It just seemed like an interesting dynamic. Ex-judge taking a young man off the streets when there's so many homeless people in California. Takes him off the streets, takes him round his house. It just seemed a bit odd.

You can't kill a man. You don't know what happened or was accused of what Kai said happened. I'm going to watch the documentary, though, because that sounds right up my street. It's interesting. It sounds bloody interesting. But these guys and gals who have their five minutes of fame,

within, you know, it seems like... The time frame seems to get shorter and shorter. You ultimately find out something about them that's way less palatable than what you would put on jimmy kimmel let's say yeah i mean it's kind of a i can't really think of another story like that obviously when you first started telling the story i thought you were talking about there's a guy who i can't remember the detail of this but there was a guy who did or a woman, who did an impression of what happened to, apparently happened to her husband, say,

in this random murder in a car in a lay-by in England somewhere. Right. And there was something about the way she did the impression, I believe, which meant the detective was like, hang on a fucking minute. And they started investigating her. It turned out she was convicted and she was guilty of the crime. All right, okay.

That's what I thought you were talking about at the to start but obviously i do remember this guy now he and the thing is you can almost understand why they wanted to get a piece of him all these entertainment people because he's so charismatic yeah oh yeah he's an absolute dream i remember seeing him and going like he was up there with that guy you know that surfer who was gone remember he did that interview and he's like going yeah and i was up there with that guy, you know that surfer who was going, pow, pow, pow. Remember, he did that interview and he's like going, and I was up there, and he was like,

pow, pow, pow. The pow, pow, pow guy, you know. But I've often said this on this show, like in the US, it's very clear that they know, like you go to the US and you want to do a Vox Pop or something, you won't have to wait long

before you find someone who is absolutely brilliant on camera or on mic like it's catch but everything feels like it's an extension of the entertainment industry in the u.s whether it's politics or law or sport or whatever it's almost like growing up in an environment where entertainment is so prevalent breeds these characters i've done so many vox pops as a young kind of student or whatever around um england and in the town i grew up and stuff like that it's impossible to find anyone who even wants to talk to you let alone anyone who's got any charisma to actually pull something off but in america they seem to be everywhere yeah would

you ever sort of like would you ever kind of get a um would you ever sort of get get involved in a vox pop would you kind of like would you ever kind of be in a situation where someone's in in the street and ask you a question no i mean no i i happily just walk past and go no thanks yeah so it happened the most recent time it happened to me is when i told you i was on that plane going that flight to boston and a woman tried to open the door on the flight oh yeah so she got detained and then because it like a week after some terrorist incident they wondered if it was linked so all the northeast new england press were at the arrivals when i landed So she got detained and then because it was like a week after some terrorist incident, they wondered if it was linked. So all the North East New England press were at the arrivals when I landed. There was loads of those.

It's almost like a cliche thing, but there was loads of people with a microphone with loads of makeup on their face and a camera person with them. And they were interviewing people about it and they tried to interview me. But I had just seen my now wife for the first time in a long time. And I was like, I'm not fucking interested in this. I want to go and find my wife. So, oh, my girlfriend was at the time. I would have dubbed her in.

That's it, it was her. Yeah. She was absolutely out of her train there. She wasn't on the flight though, so it would have been the perfect crime. Do it, anyway. Anyway, let's have a quick break. When we come back, we've got an email or two to do. And we should do them because they're backing up in the inbox.

So, we'll see you on the other side of this all right then we're back with the logo peach show and we've got emails i'm gonna say hello to dulta hello dulta uh a man who paints houses is the title of this uh email hi lads long time first time from dublin just listening to your most recent podcast suggesting that getting professionals in is the best for painting the house. Well, let me tell you, I thought I hired a painter to paint the house, but what I got was a man who paints houses. A mafia reference there, apparently. We were getting ready to sell our home

and figured that we should repaint the interior and all the exterior. Front exterior is an anthracite grey, steady, sidewall had never been painted. The specific RAL colour was 7004. So I hired this guy through a popular handyman site. He came out and we handed him the previous paint tins that were half

full, paint names fully visible and said, if you need more paint lad, there's the names, all good. So we get a call to say, all done, come and have a check and then you can send over the rest of the cash. So we rock up to the house and immediately see there's a massive colour difference between the side of the house and the front. So we go inside and that is all good, no problems there.

So I text the guy and said, listen, that's all great, but it looks like you've got the wrong colour for the side. In fact, here's a picture of the paint tin that you used. It's called Jack Black. I'll send you the money for the interior, but can you just come and sort the side out, please? This is where things go more man who paints houses what follows are a series of increasingly threatening texts ranging from the bizarre well this is what the accountant is for to insisting i come down to the

house to show him the different color and also general questions about my manhood and manliness at one stage he simply texted me back my mother's home address we were staying what eventually we agreed to meet at the house which i wasn't really enthusiastic about to show him the different paint cans he insisted it was still the same can so myself and my wife arrived earlier than planned and have a look lo and behold the two paint cans old and new have matching names but that can't be right i've got a photo right here of the label on the old can uh which we'd sent him before handing over i look close at the old can of paint and notice

there's a faint hint that it's a sticker over a sticker. My wife begins to slowly peel off the outer layer and the old RAL 7004 sticker is revealed. I'm elated. This is it. We have him. He tried to purposefully deceive us. Then it dawned on both of us, this lunatic tried to purposefully deceive us. Get the fuck out out the house right now

so we scarper not wanting to meet meet our maker uh we bump into a friend outside who offers to hang around with us uh we do and we eventually meet the guy who still blindly desires it all then goes into a spin sting we stuck the second sticker over eventually still not wanting to get murdered i agreed to pay him a portion of the remainder so he'll simply fuck off. Thanks to the podcast, lads. Keeps things interesting in work. Dulta. Now, they attached a picture of the house and, yeah, I mean, the side of the house does look

like a very different shade to the front of the house. Is that fair to say, Lukey Moore? I don't really know what I'm supposed to be looking at. I think, so the front of the house is kind of like a grey. Yeah. And the side of the house is your old Jack a gray yeah the side of the house is your old jack black but that's just a shadow isn't it could be but it sounds i mean it sounds like the preceding email is detailed uh that they're not happy with the i fully understand that daughter

isn't happy with the work yeah i also think i don't think the painter showered himself in glory either no i i think i think if you're... Why did he do it? I mean, could he have just thought, I can't find that pin? Don't just fucking stop. You've done all the work. You've done the hard work.

Why be a weirdo about it? It's not like you're going to cover it up with something else, is it? It's the side of a... outside of a house. So they're going to check it properly, aren't they?

Yeah. But I will say that you've got a lovely front of your house. You've got these big kind of like... What do you call those kind of like big stable doors or a big kind of like you park your car in there i can't really tell to be honest but yeah it's a lovely it's a nice color i actually think it's a very nice color for the outside of a house i'm talking about the front of it i'm not trying to wind up daughter who i understand is not very

happy with the side of the house it's got a lovely um light pink door um i think it looks nice um but listen ultimately if you're not happy with the work and he's not followed the instructions then you know i understand the desire to not want to be murdered so whatever the negotiation was i'm sure they're perfectly content with but you know you have got to really check the person's references before they do it like the guy who's doing my um the decorator my house inside he's also decorated a friend of mine's house and it looks amazing so that's the reference i went for yeah indeed but listen you live and learn daughter i'm sure you won't make the same mistake again there's lots of dads listening to this show right now who are going just paint it yourself just do it yourself and it goes wrong you've got no issues you've saved yourself a bit of money you've got no one to

blame but yourself would you paint the outside of a house peter um i mean i find painting very very boring but as long as i had the right tools like a little like a little frame or something like the right ladder as long as you've got the right ladder i think you're pretty sorted in one of those really long rollers um but i don't know how high the ladder would have to go for me to mask out the uh the awnings and then it's also the public nature of the work if you're doing that and it's say a few days work you're out there every day every single neighbor's going to see you i'm going to know that you did it yeah exactly if it's an absolute shit job i did some plastering uh last week and uh do you think?

How do you think? They are absolutely, the proper good plasterers are artisans, aren't they? Yeah, they really are. Have you seen them? They work so fast and so brilliantly.

They look so good at the end. Yeah, it's great stuff. Great stuff. Yeah, my advice would be to get it looking like a proper wall. Yeah. I'm terrible at that kind of stuff

so I feel your pain. All right, let's get out of there. We'll be back on Thursday with some more of this. We've got some more batteries to get through as well. We've got some excellent emails and some stories for you,

so we'll look forward to that. Thank you very much for listening today. Peter, anything to add from you? No, I want to go. Okay, let's go. See you later. See you. See you. The Luke and Pete Show is a Stack production and part of the acast creator network