The Luke and Pete Show - Ten American Men

Episode Date: April 6, 2026

Under the microscope this fine Monday: the land of the free and the home of the brave. Luke and Pete discuss the recent passing of Robert Mueller, Kash Patel’s shoes and pink hair in the FBI.Staying... on the subject of the US of A, Mr Moore has a challenge for Mr Donaldson. Can he name any ten American men? There’s literally only one way to find out.Plus, we’ve got a new mission for you, the listener. How accurately (or inaccurately) is your profession typically depicted in the media? Get in touch.Send us your latest stories, questions and comments here: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I talk, done it to me. It's the Luke and Pete show. Yes, it is. It's the Lukey Pete show. With me, Pete's, Donaldson, Mr. Luckey Moore, Buns. How are you doing? Not bad. This is undeniable.
Starting point is 00:00:17 This is the Luke and Pete show. Absolutely undeniable. I like that, can I go straight off the bat? Because the most recent thing I read before I jumped on this mic to talk to you, Peter, is, go get your own oil. Trump tells allies in angry outburst. Could we not get away with doing that? Oh, just go and get your own oil!
Starting point is 00:00:40 We're not at war with anyone. Why don't we go and get our own oil? I agree with them. Let's have a good time getting our own oil, and we'll be full of oil, and the US will find it very difficult to operate, one would suggest. I've been raiding a lot,
Starting point is 00:00:53 looting a lot of oil in Ark Raiders. I'm getting me on, fertiliser. Just turning me a little light on. There we go. That's better, isn't it? Sometimes I'll turn the light on. and I've got the wrong setting, and it'll sort of start doing like a big rainbow
Starting point is 00:01:08 that gets bigger and brighter as I speak. So it's like, right. That sounds lovely. It does sound lovely, isn't it? But no, I think that... Have you been arc riding? Not been arc riding, no, not being... I've been nowhere near.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Arks, the street of Hormuz, or as somebody who's pointing out online. What about those gays of Hormuz that nobody talks about, which I very much enjoyed? I guess the complete opposite of the street. I suppose. It was a gay man and he was doing a little joke
Starting point is 00:01:37 about his community. Very enjoyable. Very enjoyable. Hopefully the gays of Hormuz aren't being guarded quite so tightly by their own although I suspect they probably are. No, I guess they probably are. Knowing what they're up to usually. So look, are you happy without
Starting point is 00:01:55 the whole thing's going? You know, you and Hegseth, you obviously... You're in a signal chat with each other. Yeah, he added to me to it. has added you to it. He's finding me particularly obnoxious on Signal. Right, okay, yeah. He's just turn it down a bit.
Starting point is 00:02:12 It's a bit aggressive. Can you tone down the rhetoric, please? All I'm asking for is some of Cash Patel's Nike Air FBI specials. Oh, I love... When those Kash Patel pictures came out, the Iranian sort of hacked as all Gmail or so. It's just good to say that, you know, the head of the FBI is literally having his Gmail hacked.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Why he's using Gmail? Well, I mean, Do you remember when people had a big problem with Hillary Clinton's email server and stuff? It feels, it feels slightly less secure than that. But hypocrisy is the point. Hypocry is a bug. He's a feature, not a bug. There's, I love the fact that most of the pictures is him with a cigar.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Just him just constantly in, like in Cuba, just smoking Romeo and Juliet cigars. Brilliant. He's like at best a 14-year-old boy. Of course he wants to get some F-Piour. B-I, limited edition, Nike, custom-made. Of course,
Starting point is 00:03:06 that's what he's spending his time on. Of course he's on Gmail. Of course he loves cigars. Of course he wears Liverpool ties to Senate hearings. He's 14. He's a 14-year-old boy
Starting point is 00:03:16 in a fucking 40-year-old man's body. Trust me, if anyone would know about that stuff, it's you and me. Yeah. And if anything, it makes his loved one, his partner
Starting point is 00:03:26 slightly more age-appropriate if you was 14. One would suggest. I'm, no one is a better advertisement for arrested development than you and I. I'm literally clicking bits of chocolate off my PS5 controller as I talk to you here. I totally get it. I just don't think it's the best idea.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Yeah, I've got a, I'm swinging, I just 3D printed a gauge for some rods and bolts to try and figure out how big a bolt is that I've got. So, you know, one would suggest that I'm getting older and you're getting, you know, flicking chocolate off your controller, you're regressive. I've basically wrapped my hand in on anything I've got. can get away with now because of this fucking house move. Right, okay. So you... It's just... It's like one of the...
Starting point is 00:04:11 Honestly, it's like a Greek tragedy. It's going on, it's going on... What's going wrong? But you know, you were... Nothing's necessarily said everything's going wrong. Two weeks ago, you were going wrong. You were saying everything's going fine. And I was like, I simply don't believe you.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Yes, but something would have... Something would have to happen for it to be going wrong, wouldn't it? It's the straight of Hormuz. It's all blocked up. I suppose if a state of permanent... Stasis is stuff going wrong, but I guess it's going wrong. But anyway, it's just It's just sucked a lot of the, you know me, Matt,
Starting point is 00:04:40 I've got a lot of life force, I've got a lot of energy. I'm a bit of a force of nature, aren't I? Yeah, a dervish. A whirling dervish. A whirling dervish. It's taking it out of me. I also got my confidence not quite badly by making a joke about you on a call earlier that backfired
Starting point is 00:04:52 and you took offence to it. I didn't take offence to it. I was only joking around. I was just giving a bit back. You know, you love the rough and tumble of naughty, bad anage, don't you? You love it. I do.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Yeah. But I don't love to offend people. I think it's something. It makes me feel bad if I offend anyone. I'm just, I, I, I simply don't believe you.
Starting point is 00:05:08 And I don't, I simply don't believe you. That is what powers you. Speaking of features, not bugs. Yeah, exactly. I said to those people,
Starting point is 00:05:17 everyone listening, I said that I recommended a couple of episodes of the Ramble for some of our production stuff to listen to. And I said, I recommend Pete listens to it as well, but he probably, he won't bother.
Starting point is 00:05:29 And you were like, oh, oh, Why would I bother? No, I was when, I bided my time. I didn't say a thing. I bade, bade, bided, Biden. Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Sleepy Biden. I sleepy Biden's my time. You do not hear from him. I wish you'd heard less of them during, I just read less of him. But I bade Biden, Lord, Enoch paled at my way, at my time.
Starting point is 00:05:56 And then later on, I came back with a little zinger to make everyone laugh. And there were rivers of blood. There were rivers of blood on the call. Rivers and Flats. I'm picking myself off the floor. Yeah. I probably wouldn't have listened to, be honest.
Starting point is 00:06:09 But to be fair, I know you're not going to listen to a 2017 episode of the ground. I had to edit the fucking thing because we stole somebody else's fine concatenatory work. I don't think concatenatory is a word, but I had to edit it a while ago. It sounded really good. It does sound right, doesn't it? I was like, that's way to good for me. If there was a 10-letter wordle, that would be straight in there, can catanatory.
Starting point is 00:06:30 But I am a person. and not even I could get to that level. No, just make a couple of words, enjoy it. I'm not only a pedant. I'm a pedant who will regularly venture into territory that is basically a bluff. To get, to pretend that I'm right. But the problem is, we record, the best thing is you do that all the time, but you, we record, you know, a few days in advance sometimes. And you're not going to, and you don't read the comments.
Starting point is 00:06:55 So you're never going to know. You're never going to know you bluff. Yeah, concatenation is a word. Yeah, concatenation is. I never heard of it. Surely concatenatory is a is a it, look.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Oh, it's a computer programming word, pathetic. Is it? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. In formal language theory and computer programming concatenation is the operation of joining character strings end to end. Just stick it together.
Starting point is 00:07:18 It'll have a Latin route, won't it? It'll have, you can sort of stick something together, one thing and the other thing, and then it becomes a whole string. Ah, bloody knew it. Well, look, you've learned something from a computer man today. Did you see, by the way, speaking of, you know, Joseph R. Biden, former Potus, you don't hear from him anymore. I presume it's because he's ill and I hope he's okay.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I assume he's not, but I don't wish anything but the best of him. You know, he's a human beings, as respect, all the rest of it. I'd like Trump and him to have a debate right now to see who is as doddery. I think it might be a very, very even tie. He's gone, he's gone off the, oh, Trump's gone off the cliff recently, hasn't he? I watched, I got served up into the old timeline. The old thing that's making my life a misery, the old timeline. The old timeline.
Starting point is 00:08:06 And I, um, I saw a short-ish video of Donald Trump in the 2016 primary. So before he was even the number. That's right. You did say, yes. I tell you, he sounds totally different, totally different. Yeah, yeah. But can I just, like, the point I was just going to make, was. 10 years ago, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:08:25 We probably sounded pretty together 10 years ago. Before childbirth. Doubt it. Doubt it. Anyway, did you see that Robert Mueller died? Yes, yes. He of the Mueller report. He of the Mueller report and the corner.
Starting point is 00:08:40 He and Donald Trump obviously was very complimentary about someone. Trump could concede that the crunch corner is a great invention by Robert Mueller. Obviously invented by him when he was on his patrol boat up and down the MECOM in Vietnam. He thought, this yogurt I've been given in the sea rations is, wanting. So he stopped off at the bank of the Mekong under enemy fire and grabbed a handful of cola nuts. Chocolate balls. And shoved them in the yogurt and went, hmm, that's texturally very impressive. And then patented it as soon as he got back to the United States and there we have the Mulla Crunch Corner. The Fruit Corner followed later, of course, ironically, because he could
Starting point is 00:09:21 have easily grabbed some mango from Vietnam. That's right. That would be more. You could probably do a fruit corner on the Mekong. Yeah. He famously did not. do that. Anyway, Donald, no matter what you're putting a cup of persuasion here, and I think everyone listening to this knows ours, but forget that, put that to one side. Is it a good thing that a world leader, any world leader,
Starting point is 00:09:40 responds to the death of a public servant by literally writing in capitals on social media, I'm glad he's dead. Yeah. Do any of us win from that, do you think? No, and I think it's fun. It's fun, playful. It's playful language to talk about a man.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Let's not forget. was a national hero. He may have done a few reports here and there. You might have found objectionable. But you get there. He's a decorated. It's about as decorated as a veteran could get, I think, from what I've read. And the yoghirts.
Starting point is 00:10:12 And the yoghits as well, for crying out loud. What are you going to have after your KFC or your McDonald's? Have a little yogurt for crying out loud. Smooth. Cool down your mouth a bit. Yeah, an astonishing bit of work. And I mean, I think it's really great that J.D. Vance and Cashman hotel. They all came out and sort of said that, you know, Donald Trump shouldn't be in public
Starting point is 00:10:33 servitude because he, because much like the Charlie Kirk sort of stuff where they basically said that if you slate Charlie Kirk on Twitter or whatever, you should be fired from your job. One might suggest that's exactly what Donald Trump did. She's not a odd hill to darn, isn't it, Charlie Kirk? Like basically a racist student debater. Why, why are you like, why are you chucking your lot behind that? Like, it's, The one thing is interesting as well, there's many interesting things about Rott Miller, which will come on to. But he served under George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama. It's weird that Donald Trump's the only amount of a problem with him, isn't it? Weird that.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I wonder what the common denominator is there. I wonder what? And you sort of think, like, out of all of them. Because I saw that. Republican, by the way, Mueller. Life of a Republican. Well, I said, that's, I mean, we always sort of, what I like about the way that these, these guys like Trump and, uh, you know, Elon Musk and stuff, where they got public services and, you know, places like the FBI, places like, you know, those kind of agencies.
Starting point is 00:11:37 They got them and then they sort of say it's because, you know, it's too walk. It's like everyone's a Republican in these companies, these fucking places. You get past a certain level. The US government's too much. The US government is never to walk. You could be losing Republicans left, right and said. It will never be to work. Yeah, it's like, you know, I can understand watching like, you know, because there's always a.
Starting point is 00:11:58 correction and then recorrection and all the rest of it, you know, the compass kind of moves, the dull moves, you know, fine, some people would say, perhaps, I haven't really thought about that much, but some people would say perhaps it went a bit too far, you know, went a bit too kind of self-congratory, went a bit too individualist, you know, do we really need this, do we need that, fine, you get to that conclusion perhaps when you watch an episode of a children's TV show that wasn't quite to your speed or something. Not when you're walking around the halls of the US government, like Jay Edgar Hoover's built at the FBI. Yeah, it's fucking. I'll tell you what? It's just pink hair everywhere in here. There isn't.
Starting point is 00:12:29 There can't be. They're on. They just aren't. Those people don't apply there. It doesn't happen. It does not happen. The only way there'll be people with pink hair in the FBI is if someone splattered blood everywhere. That's the only way. Bone is blood. The couple of interesting things, well, a couple of things that I think are interesting about Robert Mueller. One is that he was obsessed with white shirts, all of his team and himself, always wore white shirts and if they didn't he would basically
Starting point is 00:13:00 take the piss out of them in meetings because he felt like... Luke Miller Energy? Well, I am a fan. I do prefer a white shirt to formal occasions but this is not about me Peter in many ways it is. Blue shirts? Black shirt? Black shirts?
Starting point is 00:13:14 No, he would apparently regularly like... With a bit of good natured chiding would call out men in this team who wore like blue shirts or green shirts or whatever. Again, again the sign of a good Republican. Brown shall never be seen in town. White shirt please. Traditionally. All that stuff. There's not a traditional bully. A traditional Republican bully.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Unless it's like public hanging or one of those. There's nothing wrong. He was a very, very strict buttoned down white shirt guy. He said if you're going to run the FBI, you know, people expect you'd have a white shirt on. And I've got no problem with that personally. The second thing I'd like to say is that his middle name was Swan. Swan. Now, did he have any, did he have any? Did he have any? other names that would adding to that? Because a lot of like American names, they do add in
Starting point is 00:14:02 a few more for good measure, don't they? Just to hedge their bets, I think. No, I think it's just Swan. Just, Robert Swan Muller. I just remembered also, he wasn't, he wasn't a patrol boat guy. That was John Kerry, wasn't it? That was the exceptionally brave John Kerry. Also, absolutely decimated his reputation just by trying to become
Starting point is 00:14:20 president and getting hammered by the Republicans. Yeah, yeah, completely agree. But he was very good. He was a Marine. that Obama debate wasn't it wasn't a debate wasn't it it was um
Starting point is 00:14:30 that woman stood up and said that he's a Muslim he's not a woman that's John McCain come on Peter sorry John Kerry was the fucking John Kerry was the
Starting point is 00:14:39 who I always get confused with um the man who is trying to save the world in the environmental space I always get Al Gore mixed up with John Kerry yeah John's like a man
Starting point is 00:14:54 your brain look amazed yeah John Kerry was very boring wasn't he? He was just very boring. Yeah, but he was. Could you stay under Obama? That's right. Yes, he was. And he ran from the person to do you. Because you occasionally take one, don't you, from the other side? You sort of go, come on, come on in now. Come on in. No, John Kerry was a Democrat. You're all over the place.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Oh, God. Well, who was the Republican that Obama put in a fucking shit job? Like, bus, head of buses or something? Why do I have to repeatedly play conversational tennis on my own? Enjoy it? Hit the ball, run around them there, hit it back again. I get John McCain and John Kerry mixed up sometimes. Yes, I do. And Al Gore.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Did I think he... Did I interview Al Gore once? I think I did. Did you? Yeah, I think I did. I did. I think I did. What's that about?
Starting point is 00:15:44 What do you think? It's the fucking book on it. It was a book about the environment. No, you mean, was it an inconvenient truth? That movie? Yes. Must have been... It must have been... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:53 About climate change? Yeah. That's interesting, yeah I don't think anybody wanted to do it I don't even know where that went Interesting I think it undermines us when you get A more mixed up after you make your serious points
Starting point is 00:16:06 I'll say Al Gore What do you think of John McCain What do you think of John McCain's daughter You know when Darren Brown Played chess against all those grandmasters But he just played the moves against each other You could do that of loads of American figures Just use the viewpoints of each of them against each other
Starting point is 00:16:21 Yeah But that's the problem Like I know like I can keep say 10 American politicians in my head at any one time. Name them now. 10 at once, name them now.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And this is about the time that you would, this is about the time is quite interesting to sort of do so. But you're not, McCain's gone, McCain's dead, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:16:40 McCain, his daughter is. Trump was horrible to him as well when he died. Yeah, and his daughter was part of the Epstein, didn't she, she, prosecuted with Epstein, didn't she, I think,
Starting point is 00:16:50 John McCain's daughter. Megan McCain was a lifelong Republican who just turned into a never Trump. and I think she got hounded out and is now an independent maybe or something like that, yeah. It's hard to be a never-Trump a Republican, I suppose, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:17:06 In this day. It's getting easier, you imagine. It'll get easier off the midterms, I imagine. What are the ten you can name and you can't have Charlie Kirk? He wasn't a politician. Name ten American men? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:23 No, 10 American men now. Do it, do it. Any 10 men. I'll give you Charlie Kerr for free, so you've got a name name. Right. Kid Rock. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Pete Buttigieg. Pete Buttigieg. Yeah. Nice. Luckily where to his third. Who's the, who's the, who's the, probably the, going to be. No, you've got to name 10 American men.
Starting point is 00:17:44 So what you've got to do. Oh, American men? All right. Okay. Axel Rose. Is he Canadian? No. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Good one. Yeah. But not slash. He's not American. That's four. Lenny Kravitz American woman American man
Starting point is 00:18:00 This is like Woldor from Wes Woldo From Wes Woldo No he's five more Real life He was American He was not real
Starting point is 00:18:11 He's not real Dr Seuss It's not real James Franco Oh Dr Seuss is real yeah Luke Perry See this sounds me a lot about you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Yeah, they're both four. You've got three more to go. The, oh, he's not American. Is he? No. Oh, no, because he was born in. He was born in America because he could be... Yeah, he's American. That's what they were saying, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:18:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, okay. Was Rocky My Via? His dad, American? Why are you going there? Does it matter? I'm only asking them those three American men. It shouldn't be hard.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Stephen... Three more American men. Not Stephen. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard to remember names, isn't it? If someone just asks you, it's too broad. Broad.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Stephen Mulhern is your eighth. Bin Laden. Bin Laden. Stephen Mulherne. Kid Rock. Stephen Mohan. It's from fucking Stratford. David.
Starting point is 00:19:11 David, boy. David, Dean. No. David Cassidy. David Cassidy. Is that a name? Where's he from? Yeah, he's American.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Apparently he was born in New York. Yeah, two more. David Cassidy. Oh, I'm thinking Ross McWhorter. Where's that come from? He was shot by the IRA. Just two more American men? Batman.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Batman. He's not real. Gary Busey. Gary Bucy. Is he American or is a Canadian? Gary Bucy is American yet. born in Texas,
Starting point is 00:19:54 yeah. One more to go. Bill, Billy, Bill Ben. I think what you're doing wrong, maybe don't mind
Starting point is 00:20:02 me sad. You're just thinking of a name of a man and then trying to back in it. And then working backwards,
Starting point is 00:20:05 yeah, Gary. Gary, all, no, he's a British, um, she's more,
Starting point is 00:20:11 she's more from his dead and half sister, half brother. Um, I can't remember names now. This is an
Starting point is 00:20:18 all-timer this. This is an actual Alzheimer. Mark, I'm thinking around, Because I got Luke Perry out of you, so Marcus, Riggstock.
Starting point is 00:20:26 No, no. Jim. Jim from Neighbors, he was, no. He played the president. He was Australian. Jim, Proudfoot, he's a guy. He's a Skype commentator. Jason.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Derulo. Jason Derulo. We got there on the end. You've used the old Jason Derulo clause, haven't you? I've used the old Jason Derulo clause. Sorry about that. I don't know what that's said. Ten of those.
Starting point is 00:20:52 God, that took way longer than I thought. It's hard. You named 10 American men. Well, you've just done it? Exactly. Exactly. I've done it. We don't need them.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Put them in a lovely line up, like the usual suspects. I mean, you named a lot more non-American men than you did American men, which is what I like. Well, it's hard. It's like that man who runs around the streets saying, say, name a woman. Name a woman. Name a woman. And they're going, ah, can't name a woman. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Surely if it's on the internet. they would just go instantly Sidney Sweeney, wouldn't they? Instantly. Because she's all over the internet at all times. She's in your feed, buddy. Correct. Is it your feed,
Starting point is 00:21:32 correct? She had a couple of missteps, didn't she sort of like? Did she? I think that her PR team was trying to sort of sort of put her in a space or certainly not deny certain things and to put her in a space
Starting point is 00:21:47 that was kind of like a bit give a little sort of, not a dog whistle, but a little sort of nod. to the to the slight right wing kind of internet fans and stuff. I've honestly never heard her speak
Starting point is 00:21:59 outside of her an acting role. I've literally never heard her after a single word that wasn't in an acting role. I've only seen her in white lotus, I think. Yeah, that's good. Good series, that.
Starting point is 00:22:08 She doesn't really do much in that. Anyway, where were we for crying out loud? Well, what I was going to ask you, actually, was something came up, I kind of got sidetracked by, you try, I'm going to name 10 American men.
Starting point is 00:22:24 So I, it's okay. I asked you to do it and you did it. In your defense, you did do it. To my, to my best of my abilities. One-0 Donaldson. I was listening to the radio the other day. And they were talking about different professions. And I was really interested in how our listeners,
Starting point is 00:22:46 it's like a little shout out for our listeners to get in touch, I suppose, about how the entertainment, industry depicts their profession because I've got a feeling that the people who make TV shows and movies and stuff they don't generally know much about how things actually work and I get the impression that I if you had a I'm kind of I'm kind of projecting a bit and trying to empathise here because obviously I don't have a normal job but if you had I have have had normal jobs and if you're listening to this currently and you've got a proper job do you regularly get flustered or annoyed by how the entertainment industry depicts your profession.
Starting point is 00:23:27 And it's partly inspired by when I went to war with GPs, a war that I lost. Yeah. And I think I was partly influenced by, yeah, I was partly influenced by the fact that I think I just witnessed too much GP-ery on TV. Right, okay. I mean, I, I, um, yeah, I guess it's, what, so you, you, the only, have you been watching the, um, what's that big TV show with? No, while. He's sort of come back now, he's a doctor.
Starting point is 00:23:51 The pit? The pit. He used to be in ER. He was in ER, right? He was in ER as like a younger man. And did George Clooney steal all of his gravity, all of his kind of oxygen? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:04 No, I think he was pretty, he was pretty sort of front and centre. Erie Glacelle, sure. He's in the corridor doing karate chops. Did he have any, do you get much work after that? No, he's in Donnie Darkall. But now he's back and he looks... He was in Donnie Darko, wasn't there?
Starting point is 00:24:18 I forgot about that? He was in Donny Darkol. And that wasn't a cat? That was a rabbit. And who else was in? I thought it might, didn't we have an argument about Donnie Darko, whether it had, who sang the song, who was in the film Gourst and sang the song,
Starting point is 00:24:35 She's Like the Wind? Patrick Swayze. Swayze. It wasn't Swayze's brother in Donny Darkor? I thought Swayze was. Right. That's, I think, what I was saying at the time. I might have said it on the Luka-Pichauds,
Starting point is 00:24:47 and you said that was Patrick Swayze. I remember a Luka-Pichaw from the past. Do you remember Patrick Suarez's brother was in X-Files? No, I'm not really sure if I knew he had a brother, to be honest. Yeah, and he looks exactly like him, or he looks enough to sort of go, oh, that's clearly Patrick Swetley brother. It's very enjoyable. Would you reckon he just hoovered up the roles that Swazzy didn't want?
Starting point is 00:25:09 I guess so, yeah, a little bit like Tom... Um... Forrest gone... Tom Hanks, yeah. Tom Hanks, obviously his brother does a load of his voiceovers, doesn't he? he does basically right and he's got two sons
Starting point is 00:25:24 one who is absolutely hapless and the other one who's quite a successful actor yeah yeah I like that mix I bet he loves
Starting point is 00:25:30 him the same one of them that's life more difficult yeah I'm sure I mean you have to you have to be equally
Starting point is 00:25:37 proud of your children surely I remember Steve Coogan saying that his his mum used to get because I think obviously the Coogan
Starting point is 00:25:45 family quite well known the part of Manchester where he grew up and everyone knows his family wasn't it? I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:52 And he said that his mum used to get fed up with people saying to it, oh, you must be so proud of Steve. Yeah. So I'm proud of all my children. What are you talking about? Yeah. Mr. Cougain, isn't there a Coogan in the... No, what was that band?
Starting point is 00:26:07 Right, yes. Okay. Which was Tom York's Brothers band? Tom York's Brothers band, don't know, but the mock turtles was definitely Steve Coogan's. Don't know them. Remember that band, the unbelievable truth? They had one good single, and I think they were. I think he might even mean Edda Bryan's brother but either way.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Oh Steve, Steve Coogan's brother, Martin Coogan was in the motels. I just looked up, he's very much alive at time of recording. Yeah, because he did the music for the last Alan Partridge thing. Did he really? Yeah. And his, Alan Partridge's, Steve Coogan's lover was in the episode with the Android, which I found out and then felt, uh.
Starting point is 00:26:47 But that's his business. That's very much his business. And if you, of all people, should not be judging. Why? Do you mean why? I'm saying why. Me of all people should not be judging. What?
Starting point is 00:27:00 Are you saying that I don't live my life right? No. Right. I'll say you live your life the most right. I mean, if you can get to the age of 44, soon to be 45, and not even be able to name 10 American men, you must be doing something quite well with good with your life. It's just hard to, it's just hard to get them off your door. You're thinking about other things.
Starting point is 00:27:19 You're thinking about other things. More important thing. More important things? Gigabyte. Is it? Gigabyte. I just think, have you seen the guy on Twitter who's who, and this is a funny one, right? He looks and seems like the kind of guy who is, should be like, I don't want to be disrespectful or judgmental, but he seems based on his output that he's a loser.
Starting point is 00:27:44 And all he does is post about his parasocial relationship with Claude. No, what? He's falling in love with Claude. I don't think he's falling in love with it. I think he's just got his really weird, ongoing relationship with Claude. And I had seen his stuff quite a lot. I thought,
Starting point is 00:27:59 that's a bit odd. But I never really clicked on his profile. And then when I finally did click on his profile, it turns out he's like head of AI at Cambridge University. Oh, right, okay. So he's... I don't know if I should be worried or reassured by that, really. He's getting high on his own supply, I suppose.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Very much so, sniffing his own robot farts. Sniff his own robot farts. Isn't it? Yeah, just a little bit. We didn't do a break. That's fine. That's absolutely fine. But you keep saying that.
Starting point is 00:28:28 You don't need to say it. I'm just telling people. To the listeners now, they would already heard the break. Well, just know that somebody... Bruno's done it. Bruno will have had to have gone through this show and found probably in the middle of those 10 men I was trying to name. Nice.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Keep people on the hook, isn't it? Will he do the last four? Will he do that? Great six in. Take a break. Yeah, exactly. So I'll put this a bit in. Will Pete Donaldson manage to name ten, ten American men?
Starting point is 00:28:58 Oh, he's got Stephen Mulharn. Schoolboy, yeah. He's got in the Stephen Mulhern, little valve. Yeah. This has been atrocious broadcasting. I'm so sorry, everybody. We'll be back with the best... We'll see on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Midterm preview. I think this is exactly what people expect. So we diverge there, mate. We should do it. we should bang we should bang this up as like a sort of Midas touch bulwark
Starting point is 00:29:24 Potsive America kind of like real like you know and it's just me you know what what's happening next in the street of Hormuz will you know will the US
Starting point is 00:29:34 president put boots on the ground on the island and then it's just me trying to name 10 American men I think a lot of podcast is way too earnest I think this is exactly what podcast was invented
Starting point is 00:29:47 and we can't lose sight of the four original pillars of podcasting, you know, like the four original pillars of hip-hop. Four original pillars of podcasting are not taking anything seriously, not really knowing much about the real world, being two straight
Starting point is 00:30:02 white guys, and your dad writing a porno. Yeah. I fact my... Exactly. Yeah, and who needs that? Who needs a dad right on a porno when you've got Pete Donaldson, name an American man? Just any American man. I found.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I found it. Do a top 10. Bruno, in the synops is this episode. Actually, no, don't do a spoiler. Maybe on the social, in a week or so, put Pete's top 10 American men and then put another tweet about the ones that he got wrong.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Right, okay. That's what you need? Yeah, okay. Do you know that my dad wrote a porn after a while they were just making it up? I think that's something that you believe and that's calcifying your brain and you're just repeating it's truth.
Starting point is 00:30:41 But why do they, what, you know, that's basically most of my output. Why do, why did they keep suddenly finding more books? Well, I was going to say when I was clearing out an old cupboard to replace it with a bigger cupboard, because I need bigger cupboards these days. I'm a cupboardman.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I found a short story that my dad had written. Oh, excellent. And it's about, basically, no one of a lie, it's only like four or five pages long. It's basically about two lovers
Starting point is 00:31:14 in love with each other and they're in an habit I think. An abattoir, of all things. Can we read it on the next show, or would that not be appropriate? It might, I don't think it would be appropriate, but I think it might be a bit dull. I don't know. I don't wish to do my dad.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Why did you have it? Why did you get hold of it? I think he just popped it and, I think he wrote it. I remember him writing it when I was a kid, and I was like, this is a, because I'm glad that my dad's in, you know, the 90s from his, from his job as a process operator in Thai oxide. you know, a voracious reader, my dad, he's always, always read a lot of books. Yeah, he just decided to bust out a little short story.
Starting point is 00:31:54 And I remember being very impressed. I think I read it a little bit later. And I was like, Dad, this is mad. You've written about two lovers in an abattoir. And, but yeah, I might give it another skim, see if there's anything. Please do. I mean, you can't mention that. And you know what's going to happen now.
Starting point is 00:32:09 We're going to get endless emails asking you to read. Yeah, read the abattoir story. Does I tell my friend who's, who's, why? wife's stepfather, so kind of not really his father and all, but kind of, writes like really, really long, overwrought, sexy bodice rippers set in the polionic france that he gets my mate to endlessly proofread. Okay. Is he, um...
Starting point is 00:32:41 Self-publishes him on Kindle and stuff. Does he, does he get any love for them? Does he kind of, is it, is it, is it, he said like sometimes like the, um, it's quite obvious, like some of the characters, like one of the characters will be like his mother-in-law. Oh, God, God. I think there was one, there was one that was specifically set between the forbidden love between, like, an English aristocrat and like a Welsh peasant or something. And it was clearly a, um, an allegory for like Brexit or some shit.
Starting point is 00:33:09 It's fucking mad. Like, it's like 800 pages, self-published. Big fan of that, yeah. Yeah. My best mom put out of her. a sci-fi sort of fantasy novel and it was just unbelievably long who has the time to write that it must be 200,000 words it must be 200,000 words insane I think I sometimes feel like I'm I don't always feel fortunate that I'm the type of character I am but when that kind of stuff
Starting point is 00:33:32 comes up I think I am fortunate because I would just say no I'm not doing that right yeah well will you please um will you please proofread this I haven't got time to do that I'm not doing it whereas a lot of people don't know yeah sure no worries me. Yeah, they wouldn't. They probably wouldn't. Anyway, all right, let's get out of here and come back on Thursday, Peter, I reckon. Let's get out of here. Bye-bye.
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