The Luke and Pete Show - The Christianity Escape Pod

Episode Date: May 4, 2026

Luke’s off to the BFI (Boxing Face Institute) and Pete might have recently participated in the worst conversation to have ever happened. At least Sammy the dog is no longer rubbing his balls on Pete’s head. Count your blessings.Plus, a look back at Radio 6 Music and pompous DJs, parking machines in the middle of nowhere and, lo and behold, the transparency of Russell Brand’s grift has reached new levels.Send us your latest stories, questions and comments here: [e-mail] Luke and Pete Show is the sometimes ridiculous, always funny podcast with Luke Moore and Pete Donaldson: two men who have time on their hands and a good idea of how to waste it. Subscribe to get your comedy podcast fix every Monday and Thursday. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Get yourself a wet. Not said that in a while, have we? Still looking. Pete, sure. Pete Dollerson, look me, look me, look me. Look me in the eyes. Look at me. Look me in the eyes and tell me you love me.

Look, he's just hydrating. Yeah. A bit of Robleson's apple and pear, fruit and barley. Apples and pears. Aren't you going to see a cockney boxer soon? Apples and pears. Yeah. Smash you in the face.

I am actually. I'm going to see Jimmy Tibbs. do a chat. What's he doing? Jimmy Tibbs do a chat. Any particular reason? So the BFI, the BFI doing a big boxing series.

The Boxing Face Institute? Yeah, that's what they're called now. I changed it, yeah. They've, no, they're doing the series on boxing's relationship with film. So there's like a load of events happening. Yeah.

And tomorrow night I'm going to see Jimmy Tibbs. I think it's him and his brother. Or him and his son doing a chat about. Timmy Jibbs. Yeah. He's called Timmy Jibbs and Jimmy Jibbs, yeah. About, yeah, just about boxing and there's a documentary movie being made as well, I being shown as well, so yeah, it's good.

Ah, well, I, I'm excited. What other films are they doing in the BFI series? Let me guess, Reging Ball. Is Reging Ball involved? I believe so, yeah, so I'm doing one just called Boxes, I think, which is a documentary, it's like a documentary, they're showing, but the whole series is called The Cinematic Life of Boxing. I think the poster is De Niro is raging balls,

so I think it probably is involved. Right, okay. But there's loads of different, the Rockies obviously involved. There's loads different things. The boxer, you know, the old Daniel Day Lewis one. Oh, right. The hurricane, the Denzel Washington one.

Yeah, there's like 24-7, the Bob Hoskins movie. There's loads. There's actually loads of really good boxing movies, actually when you think about it, so it should be quite good. I think with a solo pursuit, such as boxing it's probably not a bad

and it's kind of a it's an honest pursuit in quite a dishonest world one might suggest and I think it's very rich for that sort of thing well I think boxing is a really interesting sport generally

and it obviously attracts a lot of characters but like Jimmy Tibbs is interesting because he started out as a boxer he boxed on an undercard of an Ali fight at one point and was a really good amateur and then

He basically went to jail. I can't exactly remember what for, and I don't want to libel him, but it wasn't anything particularly edifying, put it that way. Might have involved a shooter. Might have involved a fucking shooter. Might have involved a little bit of apples and pears. Who's got a shooter? Who's thrown hot sugar from a kettle in a prison?

No, you're obsessed with that. I'm not obsessed for that. That's a recent thing, I think of what tough guys do? I don't know. Yeah. But anyway, then he came back and then he became a trainer. And now I think he's quite a serious born-again Christian. As in not in a Russell-brand way, but has been for like 20 years.

Like genuine, he is a Christian. You're not running from something, yeah. Okay. Did you see that, did you see that? He asked me, he says, did I see it? Did I see it? Imagine a world in which I've missed that. His Bucky Wook.

Tell everyone, tell everyone what happened. Describe it in your own inimitable style. He doesn't talk about his bookie-wook anymore, Russell. Brand. He was very big on calling his autobiography, a Buckywick. Russell Brand on, oh God, it's the horse name, he bombs Christian Ronaldo, don't he? Piers Morgan.

Piers Morgan, yeah. And he was on there and Piers Morgan was asking him about his faith because he's entered the sort of right wing media in America as, in many ways some might suggest some kind of

life vest. for recent legal difficulties. Escape pod. Let's call it a Christianity Escape Pod. Yeah, exactly, yeah. A little Christian rocket fired into Jesus' eye to avoid some accusations of sexual assault and rib.

So that's what he's doing, but he is currently on a bit of a press blitz, because I think he's written a book about being... A bookie-ook, a bookie-ook too, about being a new Barnaghaned Christian. And he was on the TV show in question, Piers Morgan's TV show, and Piers Morgan asked him to give him basically his favourite Bible verse,

and he spent about a good two minutes of primetime television. It was unbelievably uncomfortable TV, and for that reason it was just incredible. And the best thing about it was, he spent ages trying to find it, he hadn't put Post-it notes in it, or in fact he'd never. read the bloody thing. No. And he basically went through a lot of pages that was supposed to be summing up his feelings on a particular item on the agenda on the menu.

And he, the best thing for me is, the best bit for me is, the division mixer, just let him get on with it. They didn't hurry him. They didn't hurry. And to be fair to Morgan,

who is a wrong one. He didn't, he was a good broadcasting from Morgan. He just left him enough rope. The rope just was there. It was right around his neck. Like a lovely pipe. detail I found interesting was that like the conversation started because Morgan said to

Brand when you went in for your preliminary hearing for your court case you took a Bible in and you quoted this verse from Isaiah and Brand said oh yeah it's very important to me yeah he's a brilliant verse he's okay well perhaps you'd like to read it now or whatever and he just simply could not find it yeah and it and it was and it was it was so obvious I mean if you if you can't see through the transparency of that ruse after that, there's no helping you. There is no helping you. Because at school,

we did Mark and John. Now, I didn't remember how Jesus died, so I don't sure it stuck with you that well. I reckon I'd have a good shout of finding, you know, a few of the parables. But the thing about,

the reason you know he's found room, mate, is because just do anything. It doesn't matter. Just read anything. Famously, Bible verses are absolutely infamous for their interpretation. They are the multi-tool. They are the multitool.

They are a Swiss army knife of moral escapism. You can do whatever you want. The priest gets up there on a Sunday morning and he hasn't revised. He hasn't selected a particular passage. He's got a hangover. He's had too much communion wide. He gets up there and he goes, and you know, Roller-Cost.

Magnus the cat's fuming. Do you hear him? Well, cats, a heavy-laden cat, couldn't get through the eye. a needle. Exactly. That's what you're saying. Et cetera, et cetera.

You know, a screaming cat, very much like our sins. They scream at us, don't they? The thing I'm most disappointed by. The thing I'm most disappointed by with Brand, you know,

obviously that's a poor way of putting it in it because what I'm most disappointed about is his alleged behavior. But in this specific incident, the thing that is so kind of just, yeah, just disappointing and fucking basic is that, If you are an experienced performer, which he is. Which he is.

And he is very deft in every other sense, in every other situation. And you are living, what some people suspect is a ruse to hide behind Christianity as a fig leaf to get yourself out of trouble in some way, whether it's here or abroad. All you need to do is memorize like four Bible verses. Why have you not got wine in your head? You know it's going to be asked. You've gone on with a Bible. Yeah. So why not just answer it?

The worst thing for me was, that is a crispy Bible. The sound of, that was a Gideon's Bible. He found in a hotel room and he's gone with that. He's not even invested in a decent Bible. They don't do those anymore, do they? They do. I always check hotel rooms now. They were in my Las Vegas.

In Las Vegas, my... Oh, Vegas, yeah. But like, yeah, you do see him every now and again. But, yeah, seem a Japanese hotel sometimes. But it was a very... awkward, therefore fascinating piece of television. Yeah. Because he's usually just way more confident than this.

And I think sometimes a ruse is just too much work. Do you know what I mean? It's just a ruse is just too much hard work. Do you're thinking, yeah, you can't keep up with his own kind of... It's exhausting. I mean, you're in the middle of a court case. You're doing a lot of travelling, I imagine, back and forth to Florida, wherever. You know, whatever...

He's done that thing. he's done though Pete where he goes um i'm uh i'm absolutely delighted it's going to court because it gives me a chance to exonerate myself it's like you're not because as we well know it's really hard to get these cases to court and if the cps are pressing charges and it's going to a trial there's a chance that it's not going to go as you want it to go and yeah i think you're looking out the wrong way you can p i yourself all you like but you're in big trouble you're in big trouble i mean i had this argument with my dad about literally 1 a.m. this morning about the

SAS and the troubles. That is lovely. So before we get into this, you are talking presumably on text with your dad? No, I was in the same room for once. We got, we got, we did the new wordle. He's just woken up. He's just walking up. You not gone to bed at that point?

No, he won't have gone to bed at that point. I think he won't have gone to bed at that point. So he'll what he does is, he waits till midnight. Yeah. And he does the wordle and he says, I've done it in two minutes. So he'll deliver I thought he was off at 1am, though. No, it's kind of switched.

It'll do two hours at a time now. Right. So what are you doing this scenario? So I'm, I had a nightmare. I'll get into me defeating sleep. I've come through the other end of defeating sleep. Oh, just because of the jet lag thing? No, no, just, just, just my daughter being a psychopath.

But the, the, I've defeated sleep. And so I'm up, he does his word at midnight and he delivers the good news. He basically says, at 12 or 2 midnight, 200 or past midnight, on the Werdle group, you'll see two minutes. I did it in two minutes. Nice.

The thing is, I think he should take a bit more time because he's usually worse when he does it. If he does it in two minutes, it's like, yeah, but you did it in five. That's not a good score, Dad. Stretch it out. If you get it in three, stretch it out,

give yourself a bit more time for crying out loud. So anyway, so you're down talking, so he's done the Wurdle, you're in the same room as him. What's the reason for that? I'm up I'm just visiting my parents with the little and because it's getting increasingly

hard to find time to do so so I'm basically going to be driving 5am back up here to get up here at a reasonable time and my daughter is asleep

so you put your daughter in the car at 5 a.m. Well right that wasn't the plan it became the plan just tell the story I'm the start bedroom What's your favourite

favourite? Bedroom Bedroom Cot Baby has always been absolutely fine with Cot in bedroom But the problem is We haven't got enough bedrooms

So I've got to sneak into the bedroom Under the cover of darkness And Slash white noise machine And It's gone to myself in the bed Without her noticing that I'm in the same room as her What, at your parents' house, this is?

Yes, I'm a parents' house. And it's always worked, like, absolute clockwork. But the problem is now, she can get out of her cot. She is a little bit more aware, and she noticed for the first time this morning that I am in the same room as her, and that became an instant problem. The plan was to get back for about 11 this morning

and leave at about 7. That's usually doable, but she woke up at about, half three after me having a long protracted argument with my dad about the troubles at 10 past midnight this morning and so we're doing that I got to bed I've felt I've I've said everything that needs to be said about the SAS is it is it I would argue just hearing this for the first time this is possibly got potential as being one of the worst conversations have ever happened ill-informed very little Bible verse

tired so quite quite crabby and quite impatient yeah I've got terrible acid reflux because I get a big sandwich at quarter to 12 so everything's just going polling I just better than my dad's

better than my dad's so so then you end up getting the car five and driving back even earlier because you were just up anyway yeah R4 in the end are four because my daughter was like,

I'm up now, you're, I will not go to sleep now. I'm not, I'm refusing, I'm digging my heels in, I won't go to sleep now, so I was like, right, we're getting in the car. I bet you fell asleep in the car, didn't she? Yep, yep, almost immediately. All the way, almost all right. Bloody hell, that's funny.

So what, how did this conversation with your old man started? I got to listen to so much Chris Hawkins and, Grimmie and all the guys of Six Music playing there, quite risible atmospheric soundtracks right the way through the night How did this conversation about the SS and the trouble start of your dad?

Oh, are they having it quite... Before you get into it, I just want to make a little prediction for our listeners and be a listener surrogate in this. My early shout is that you are going to adopt

quite a wet blanket liberal left opinion about some kind of atrocity and your dad is going to say something along the lines of there's no need for inquiry you know, this is a war situation, you know, they've got to do what they've got to do.

You know, you can't just litigate it in the past. Blah, blah, blah. Is that broadly the thrust of it? Yeah, pretty much. It's exactly the same as a Shamima Begham argument we had. Sure. Not a long ago as well. So it's all the same.

What's your dad's position on Begham these days? He's just like, she knew what she was doing, etc, etc. And I'm like, what society do you want to live in? Yeah. She's under 16. Like, what is, what is wrong with you? Are you mental? How does that like the troubles?

What were you specifically talking about with the troubles? Well, I think it was just, I think his point was one of the cases was about the SAS killing some IRA members on the way to perpetrating atrocity. And my dad's like, well, what about the IRA? They don't get, they don't get inquired upon about their stuff. And I'm like, I mean, they do. And B, the SAC has to have a higher level of performance than, terrorists.

You know what I mean? Like, you can't, you kind of have... And I think, Luke, you're on my side, but I think you'll pretend you're not on my side for effect. Phil Luca Pete's short listeners. Well, you know. Oh, Pete, I can see it on both sides.

It's not for me to get in between it. Just all that stuff, really. Do you look back on it and say that was a dreadful time? Not the troubles. We got our own troubles. We got our own troubles. We've got our own cold war happening. Yeah, it's fine.

So you just leave at 4.30 without saying? goodbye to your mum and dad? No, they were very much up. Oh, any noise in my mum is up and about, just like, you know, she adopts, she's like, oh, she's potters, she's like, you know when someone gets CTE, you know, someone gets hit by something,

and they get knocked out, but they adopt the fencing position that indicate brain damage. She's like that. As soon as any noise in the house happens, she's up with her fencing, up with her jukes up, just ready to go,

ready to take the day on, on its terms. 4.30. It's just a normal family, isn't it? Just a normal family. Just a normal family occasion. You're arguing at 1am. Your daughter's up at 3.30. You're in the car at 4.30. Great stuff. Have you been back to bed? I did have an hour. I must admit this afternoon. Not surprised. Yeah. I was in the studio of Marcus all morning, so I know he's one there.

Oh dear. I know what's on, by the way. I'm not asking Marcus about that. I'm not asking Marcus about any of that. How long were you up there for? Was there a nice time had apart from that? No, I wasn't up there for very long. We went to, I was, I left, went Saturday morning into Saturday afternoon. I mean, it's just such a long time to get up there.

You can't, you can't, I could do it myself. If I could, if I chose like the hours of darkness to, to go up there. Yeah, I could never take myself on the car for that long. No way. Yeah, no way. But you can't do more than like an hour. He could do, she, she could do two hours and then, you've got to have a big old break and then another two hours.

we absolutely because she was asleep this morning i was out i'll just i just white ride that train as long as you can we went we went to um what i like about uh what i like about these little these little um trips like sometimes i'll just sort of go i'll just be driving up the a one or whatever and i'll just go what's this place and i'll just drive and i'll just get off at whatever turning and there'll be a little there'll be a little sort of like um as a service station mate that's what it is it's called a service station but they'll also be like There'll be like a little sort of, what do you call it? I guess not a stately home.

When people have like old cars and they always have a heritage sticker in the front of their window to sort of indicate that they're a member of their heritage foundation. English Heritage. It's like, is it English Heritage? Is that an English heritage member? It's one of those things where like they'll just be a, not an advert, but like a street, a basically sign coming off the motorway saying down here, there's quite a nice park. And you just sort of go, all right, I'll try this one this time.

And it'll just be like one of the most beautiful... We went to like Rutland Water Park. This is massive lake in Rutland. And it's absolutely beautiful. What a fair septal aisle this is, this nation. And we were there before like at the car park, you know, legally opened. So we just sort of sneaked in. And we had a little potter around.

Saw some ducks, saw some squirrels. Saw a couple of caterpillars. It was absolutely brilliant. Lovely stuff. Yeah, English heretics have got a lot of, they've got a stranglehold and all this stuff. I remember being up in the... Lake District. The Wi-Fi of access to and I before my summer's warm,

we went up to the Lake District for a weekend or whatever it was. And we went, we found this walk we wanted to do up this, up this mountain. And, well, as mountainous as it gets in the Lake District. I don't know if you call it a mountain or a hill, but anyway, some kind of fend. And, and, um, we, um, we parked the car up in, like the middle of nowhere. It's like an English heritage sign and like a pay machine saying, English Heritage means you've got to pay like seven quid to park. I'm not fucking paying that.

There's nobody around for about fucking 10 miles. Who's gonna fucking check that? No way am I paying it. Oh, I am faster. I play faster. If I,

if there's no ANPR as you go in, if there's no people, if there's no machines checking the old cameras, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not being funny. I'm happy to contribute

towards the preservation of our countryside. You know, it's fine. But this is a piece of gravel in the middle of nowhere with like probably six feet's worth of fence.

I'm not paying you seven pound. It's not happening. I've just park it here. No one's going to stop me. There's no one around and there's no cameras, so I'm not paying. And then obviously I spent the rest of the walk three hours, worried about whether I was going to get a ticket or not. Yeah, exactly.

But they'll get their money back through ice creams, aren't they? They'll get their money back to. I got a car park ticket the other day because I parked in the electric vehicle spot on my street, right? Right. And I have got an electric vehicle, but because I wasn't actively charging in it, I had to pay fucking 70 quid. I don't know what the rules are there. Could you not just connect it and then just sort of like not be running it and just like

If I plug the cable in there's no way there would have been a check if it's charging on that. How many hours? They'll be a light on. But how many hours would you not, how many hours would there be after you finish charging? Because I'd be in there for days.

That's the thing. So you talk about the active charging thing then, right? So if I plug it in when I go in from work, I plug it in at say 7pm, right? I'm charging it. It stops charging at 1 a.m. It's cheaper to charge it overnight.

So you leave it. have a night. It stops charging at 1am because it's done. It goes yum, yum, I'm full, thank you. You never get a ticket. You never get a ticket. No. No.

And also, by the way, without getting too kind of Jeremy Clarkson about this, right, I pay the road tax, right? I pay the council tax. I live there. Can I please park my car outside my house? No, you can't, David. You're blocking somebody's electricity. I think, look, just get yourself.

You don't even have to have a proper cable, just a little rope. It's a little bit of rope. Yeah, like, just paint the rope black. Yeah. Yeah. Stick it in the window. I'll stick it in my like V-12.

Just stick it in the gas thing. Yeah. So I was disappointed to that, but I didn't get a ticket for the Lake District car park. That's a place you should go to, by the way. Have you frequented it? The Lake District? Yeah. It can't be that far away from you growing up, really.

No, didn't have a car. I couldn't go. It was one of those places that I visit every now and again when I go and see my sister, which is very, very rare these days. Where does she live again? She lives in Manchester. or stock pot sort of way.

Oh, I love cat. Cats care, he needs to be affectionate. He needs some attention or he won't stop meowing. Oh, just looking at that cat is giving me allergies. The way you're hugging that cat. Luckily, I'm not. Luckily, I'm not allergic to it. Did you take Sammy to the dog up with you?

No, we didn't know. Sammy's been banned after he ate next door's leaks. There's an era of his... He's got dementia or something, but he got very upset about Sammy eating his leaks. Right. Okay, I thought you were talking about Sammy then. Did he still rub his balls on your head, or is that? No, he's, yeah, no, he's sort of calm down eventually.

But yeah, no, he's in fun. So who looks after Sammy then? Sarah. Oh, right, she didn't go with you? No, no, no, no, no. Sarah had a studio 52 party. Is it 54? Yeah.

54. I always... Studio 52. It's not quite as good. I can never... It's not quite as good. Yeah, it's two off. I can never...

Somebody on... Some artist on this breathy sort of radio DJ on 6 music at Hapas 5 said this act describes herself as a mixture of studio 54 and area 51. And I was like, oh, fuck off. Fuck off.

That is... Early morning is Chris Hawkins, isn't it? It was pre-key. Chris Hawkins. At least Chris Hawkins he's loving the Brit pop, he's loving the landfill indie hair day. So he always opens his show with like a bit of Maximo or something.

I don't think Maximo Park is landfill. I can't have that. It's not landfill but at least he, at least he's of an era that he doesn't feel like he has to play 70s music. He doesn't feel like he have to, who died from the Ronnette today? Oh yeah, the last remaining Renet died.

The last remaining Ronnet. doesn't feel it has to sort of do that Oh, Nedra Tully Ross, that's her name That's right, yes Yeah, he'll play any old Sort of naughty's goff And if I hear some Just East versus Simeon Thank you, thank you, Chris Hall

That is a classic Yeah, isn't it? By the way, I used to absolutely love six music You used to listen to it all day every day And when I catch it now, I do think Oh, it's a bit smug, it's a bit smug, isn't it? The thing about those kind of, and I know people love it

When we talk about stand-up or music radio deets But I think people do like it, I just don't think you like it. I think people listening do find it interesting when we talk about the industry. I think they think it's interesting that we've got a position on it. And it's not about just tearing anyone else's house down because that doesn't build us a house, but it's an interesting insight, I think.

So carry on. I said this to Sarah a few days ago, the further away from my radio career I get, the better I sounded in my head. Oh yeah. That's the same with everything. That's what I said with everything. The thing about like,

you're sick of music, radio, DJs. Like, you can't, you can't, I couldn't be, even though I demoed for them once, I couldn't be on six music. And as a radio DJ, you can't have a silly radio DJ on six music. I always just pretend that I prefer it. Because the music is mega important. And the DJs, when you sort of hear like sort of new music DJs on like Radio One and stuff, and you hear them sort of like do kind of like jolly sort of northern patter. I also go, you know what, for a new music, you need to sound cool of them that.

And it's a real shame you have to kind of adopt this kind of like cod 1990s, Joe Wiley kind of stuff. But you really do. I also find, I find, that's not true across the board, there is it? Because I don't think, I know he's not anymore, but Sean Keithney wasn't like that. But he was the breakfast DJ and I don't think he fits, I don't think you believe him as a new, you know, a new music. No, he's just a jolly guy, isn't he?

Yeah, he's a jolly guy. He knows a good tune when he is one probably, but that's about it. Yeah. And Sean's Keithy's a really lovely feather as well. So I'll not hear about what I said about him. But back when in the heyday, when I used to listen to it, it would have been probably maybe 15 years ago. You're looking at, you're looking at, it was LeVern, who's still there, I know.

Breakfast was Kevney. Then you had McCone and Ragliff and Mockely. Who are pompous in a way, but are also quite self. I always sound like they're chewing. Yeah, but they're also quite self-aware. I think. Yeah, I think so.

And then you got a little bit serious after that, you know, what was the, I can't remember the drive time was, but then it was Gideon co later on and, and Ravenscraft and people like that. And then that's when you're getting kind of very...

Kendrick Lamar. No. Yeah, you're getting very earnest. Kendrick Lamar. I don't think of. Steve Lamar. Steve Lamar. Steve Lamar.

Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick Lamar. Yeah, Steve Lamma. Lammo was, it was always been a bit of a character, though, isn't he? You see, obviously, you always used to see Lamack at gigs and stuff.

And it would be like, like, he'd be at gigs on his own like fucking six nights a week yeah I mean there are I think there are certain people you do sort of look back on and sort of go that makes a bit more sense knowing what we know about certain

kind of functions I think of people as they grow up Fred Dibner somebody pointed out quite recently he clearly had some kind of he was on some kind of spectrum because he he would go

he would very I mean treated his wife's terribly this meant that very clear but um let's get that out of the way which one yeah three wives three wives not bad um not about going but he would sort of go to um they would go on like very rare holidays and he would find like a workshop close to where he him and his wife were staying and he just stay there all all day i just look at the tools and stuff and and it's just like yeah i kind of but then people will say like people will say who doesn't have there wasn't any aspergers or autism when I was a kid. It's like, what are you talking about? He built a mine in his garden.

He built a functioning mine. There was a woman across the road from me growing up who used to count her tomatoes every day and collect teaspoons and put them in certain orders on the wall as a collection. It 100% existed. It's always existed. My dad's mom ended up walking around the streets thinking, and Oz had fallen off. I don't think that's something different.

Well, because she was a piss head, nobody noticed that she'd gone completely insane. And also, there was a lot of places people used to fucking lock people up. So, like, you didn't see, you know, a lot of mental dysfunction or different functions. My dad could tell you the name of any motorbike built between about 1940 and 1970 just by the sound of it. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. And that used to be on you bet. Yeah. Make a virtue of it. Make a virtue of it. Make a virtue of it. Exactly. Make a skill of it. Anyway, where were we?

That was a whistle of stop tour. Let's wrap up and then we'll do some more stuff on Thursday, Pete. We will. Just continue to mine this very, very rich seam. We will. Fred Dibneseeem, so to speak. We'll be back on Thursday. Look after yourselves.

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