The Luke and Pete Show - The cult of Lochvinder

Episode Date: August 21, 2023

Pete's booked a load of surprise excursions in Japan for the partner he has access to. I think we all know how that’s going to end... We also take the time to discuss the potenti...al cage fight between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk - and if that's not happening, we'll just do a Luke vs Pete cage fight instead!Want to get in touch with the show? Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow.We're also now on Tiktok! Follow us @thelukeandpeteshow. Subscribe to our YouTube HERE. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 it's the luke and pete shaw it is monday the 21st of august um nearly a month away from luke moore's birthday i'm pete donaldson uh i'm joined by uh mr lukey Moe. Lukey Moe, how the devil are you? I'm very well, thank you. People will remember on Thursday, I told you my birthday. I guarantee you can't remember now. It's 21st, wasn't it? 21st?
Starting point is 00:00:34 No, 22nd? 22nd of September? Yes, it was. Unbelievable. You told me it was September. I remembered September. Because I don't know. 20th of September. 20th of September.
Starting point is 00:00:43 It's in there. We're recording this episode straight after the fucking last one. It's not even like it's four days in between. Because I'll never, why? Why do I need that information?
Starting point is 00:00:51 You don't know when I'm born. It doesn't matter, does it? It comes up on Facebook memories and then you fucking write it and go, happy birthday, bro. April 30th, 1981. Yeah, now you know.
Starting point is 00:01:00 And I saw you typing. You might be on my Wikipedia. I can't hear. There's no way your birthday's on your Wikipedia you shouldn't even have a Wikipedia I forgot about your anti-Wikipedia agenda oh actually your birthday is actually on your Wikipedia and it's accurate do you know
Starting point is 00:01:15 brave do you know that I always start thinking of stuff like that like why don't people just put on their birthdays that don't move up a year because then they go well this could have been updated any time yeah what I didn't realise by the way you voiced a character in a video game in 2008 on their birthdays that don't move up a year because they go, well, this could have been updated any time.
Starting point is 00:01:27 What I didn't realise, by the way, you voiced a character in a video game in 2008. Very much for no money and it was very much an amateur concern, let's say. Mind you, the one the one, the journey, what was it called, the journey beyond, the journey down, the journey down, that was
Starting point is 00:01:43 had a commercial release, I think. The other one was just like a fan game for the video game released by Sierra in the 90s. Your Wikipedia page is quite interesting. It's the first time I've read it. There's loads of stuff going on. Loads of stuff going on. What's in there?
Starting point is 00:01:56 Apparently in December, it was 12th December 2019, you announced you were leaving Absolute Radio. Yeah, I remember that. I remember that date. It's a couple of paragraphs about Wrestle Me. Nice to see. Yeah, it's good stuff. You've got a whole section for podcasts.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Well, I should do. I do a lot of them, don't I? Yeah, you do. If anything, that's the thing. So when I ranted about the British Podcast Awards a few weeks ago, the thing that was in my mind about the Podcast Champion Awards,
Starting point is 00:02:22 one of the things they do, is I was thinking to myself, you should be fucking, Donaldson should win that. Donaldson should be awarded that. He's been doing podcasting more than anyone else. You've been doing podcasting longer than me. Yeah, but am I bringing anyone to the party? Am I bringing anyone in?
Starting point is 00:02:36 Turning people off, if anything. What's the, who wins those sort of things? But it's like. Well, fucking Fern Cotton won it, wasn't he? But you know what I mean? That's. Two years in the game. Yeah, but I would say that
Starting point is 00:02:47 with stuff like that, there needs to be... It's hard, though, isn't it? Well, you don't want to say anything because you're a judge at the moment and I think you should say something. What do you mean? I've literally said all of the things
Starting point is 00:03:02 that you said. We said it on WrestleMania last week because we were both in the... The two hosts of WrestleMe was something like 40% of the Grand Prix judging team. And yet, WrestleMe can't get a nomination and never have been able to. No, I've said the exact same things that you said.
Starting point is 00:03:24 What I would say is that the very idea of competition is ridiculous. Anything like that is, by its very nature, fucking ridiculous. And it's always going to, and it's stupid, and it's just a money-making exercise, and it always has been, and it always will be. And until the Stack Awards start, the Stack-A-Boar Here We Go Awards, and that's the...
Starting point is 00:03:44 I'd probably never, that's a great tune, by the way. That's the title, actually. I know. I fucking wouldn't be one of them. Yeah. And that would be funny. Yeah. That would be the funniest thing that could happen.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Do you know that Stack-A-Bow, who did Here We Go, that tune in 1993, he then later... This is a mad bit of trivia and I know this because I randomly digressing here, this is a Luke and Pete show you know what you're fucking getting into
Starting point is 00:04:11 award not winning forget the intro a while ago I was going through, I was trying to put together a little playlist for a friend of mine because we had this legendary compilation tape in my very first car and I was thinking of all the songs that we had on there
Starting point is 00:04:26 and I was trying to put them together for a playlist. And one of them was Here We Go by Stacker Bo. Yeah. Amazing 1993 pop hit. Kind of a little bit of a rap type number. Anyway, if you haven't heard it, listen to it. It's very of its time, but it's pleasing. Stacker Bo is Swedish.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Did you know that? Oh, right. Okay. So it was a bit more Europop than I thought. Guess what he does now. He's a music executive. That's probably not true, is it? Emmy award-winning director.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Nice, like that. Directed Chernobyl. Oh, beautiful. That's fantastic. Yeah. What a career arc. The guy who did the rapping in Stack-a-bo, Here We Go? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Ah. Correct. Here we go again. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba- here we go again that guy his name his real name is johan renk um and he was a um a music guy back in the day obviously he was doing a lot of euro dance stuff they could sell us any old shit back then couldn't we couldn't they yeah i mean they still do but good god and then through through that he got into music video directing. And then through that, he got into TV directing. And he got found, he was discovered by, I think I'm right in saying Vince Gilligan.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Right. And he went and directed three episodes of Breaking Bad. And then did some Walking Dead stuff. And then he did Chernobyl. Awesome. That's so cool. So basically, fucking Stack-A- Here we go. Directed like three episodes of Breaking Bad.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Which I just think is an incredible bit of trivia. Yeah. It's good stuff that. Very enjoyable. That's the kind of thing you learn on this show. Anyway Peter, what have you been up to? What's been going on? Talk to me. What has been going on? I don't know man I've just been sort of trying to find at the last minute someone who can look after
Starting point is 00:06:04 little Sammy boy. And we shouldn't go too focused on dogs on the podcast. But the stress of putting your firstborn, in my lifetime, son through into a place where they could sort of chill out while you're on holiday. That's actually quite stressful. What will you do? Do you not get someone to come and dog sit yeah half well not really they really have to be around their house and we've sort of we've we've worked we're working with a couple of people on on on house sitting uh not house sitting on on
Starting point is 00:06:35 them going around the house but um they're at one point uh for a little gap we got to put them in a um a kennels but it's not really like a kennels as i would understand it it's this kind of very essex-y and in fact it's been on the only ways essex um bougie um kennels where everyone's got like it's basically like a hotel room for a dog yeah and they've got how much is it and they've got their own 20 quid a day like not expensive. And they've got their own telly. Each little pod's got their own telly. And they've also got loads of soft furnishings. And then they've got a chandelier each. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:07:19 Is that near where you live? The scene is so typically Essex. Yeah, just around the corner. I'm really impressed. I want to stay there. I've seen the place that Jules puts Pablo, her dog, in. And she gets a video every day of what he's been up to. Honestly, it's like a little fucking hotel.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I mean, if you've got like 15 dogs a day, that starts to creep up a little bit. Overheads would be high, though. Like what? Dog food? What do you mean? like i mean if you've got 15 dogs a day you said they're charging 20 quid a day i think that's i think that's the business for the small for the smaller smaller dogs but i would say that like oh well you get charged different amounts but now big the dog well i mean there's smaller space rather i think and then there are there are and i think they only take sort of medium-sized dogs but but I just think it's one of those kind of companies that you think would be very low bar of entry for that kind of business.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Anything dog-walky, anything kind of like, I'm going to make a boutique shop on the high street with clothes I've made. It's all just very low bar, apart from a bit of capital, and they always go to the wall within about a year, and it's just a vanity business. Surely those's surely there's insurance insurance costs would be high wouldn't they um i don't really know to be honest i mean you only have to kill one dog and you're you're just tossed aren't you really i suppose so i mean i mean as long as you're good at it as long as you're like as long as you're just careful and stuff and and you are committed to it rather than
Starting point is 00:08:41 just using it as a money-making exercise but But I would say, like, if, like, you get all these dogs together, you've really, you've got to spend a lot of time with them. And, I don't know, I just think that, and through, like, August and September, obviously very popular because of school holidays and stuff, but then anywhere else in the year, you're not going to have a full complement of dogs in your house.
Starting point is 00:09:04 So you've got to sort of feather your nest for that, so to speak. This is like an ironic point you're making because in the background my cat is meowing. Sounds like he needs to go to a kennel. There's nothing I can do about it because my wife's looking after our son, so he's going to have to just meow in the background. That's all right.
Starting point is 00:09:18 What's he up to? Has he found a little corn on the cob? He needs one. So you'll be off to Japan for a couple of weeks or whatever? Yeah. You just fill up. I was thinking you'd give us some food, see if it shuts them up. Yeah, I'm off to Japan.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I don't really want to say what I've booked in for Chambers, but I have very much booked a few things in that I think she's going to like, but there's a very good chance she's not going to like them. So she does listen to the show, in my opinion, to shout at me because of the things I say and the secrets I impart about my life and her life. Luke's back. He didn't hear any of that.
Starting point is 00:09:58 But, yeah, Luke. Sorry about that. I'm back. I was just telling the listeners. I can't like this. What? I was just telling the listeners that I've booked a few bits and bobs to do in Tokyo, but I'm a little bit concerned
Starting point is 00:10:09 that she won't like some of them. Sarah's first visit, right? Sarah's first visit. She did a stopover night. Lots to take in. Lots to take in. Very busy. It's not really her vibe.
Starting point is 00:10:18 She's not a city person. It's got all the hallmarks of being an absolute relationship destroyer but but I'm not going to say what I've booked in which is your nickname isn't it a bit annoying
Starting point is 00:10:30 what I've booked in what I've booked in and I'll speak about it when I get back but I've booked a few things that may upset her may excite her I just don't know
Starting point is 00:10:41 and you can't see Chris Barrow because he's coming over here at the same time amazing planning yeah amazing planning by him not me let's make that very clear
Starting point is 00:10:47 so I'm not having that just a bit of communication just a bit of comms yeah from him yeah from him exactly correct hey that's not how you
Starting point is 00:10:54 address him anymore he is Sunday Times bestseller Chris Broad I'll probably just call him Chris by the way can I change the subject ever so slightly
Starting point is 00:11:07 but not that much you know because you and Chris are both kind of internet guys how are you feeling about this Zuckerberg Musk cage fight what's the play here what's the hack they're doing that we don't get what's the 3D chess they're doing that we don't get
Starting point is 00:11:23 I mean I guess with Musk the thing with him he's he's very uh you know he tries to be pretend that he's a big dog but he's just a bit a bit of a wet wet fish really yeah and you see do you know it feels like to me it feels like you know they say that thing about back in the day if the king ever had to utter the words i am the king he was fucked yeah yeah elon musk seems to do that all the time yeah i mean yeah i mean you said that on the ramble uh when when uh just before you'd said um what is wrong with you today you feel you seem angry and sad um and it's very hard to respond to that yeah it's very hard to you have been you have been a
Starting point is 00:12:03 while but you were i wasn't but i what but i wasn't but it's very hard when someone says you're angry or you're sad or you're hungry to show you to say you're not when you know when an overbearing man is saying you're sad and i'm going i'm not sad i'm happy if you're not i don't think you are you know me i'll never leave a can of worms on open so that's fine by I actually, if you want to tell the full story, I actually said you're acting like a dickhead. Right. Didn't I? And you said, no, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:12:31 And I said, no, you are. And I said that you were doing it on Monday and you're doing it now. And then you go... Right. Okay. Yeah. And this, people, is the environment.
Starting point is 00:12:42 We have to create radio shows. We have to create podcasts. This is the environment. Well have to create radio shows. We have to create podcasts. This is the environment. Well, I'm not going to go into the behaviour that you exhibited to make me say that, because that's not fair on you, because no one was there, and it's like there's no point going down that road. And I massively disagree with it. I just didn't walk in and go, you're a dickhead.
Starting point is 00:12:58 You turned up a little tired, so we locked horns. Now you're doing what you just said so it's very when someone says to you you're just tired it's very hard to show that you're not tired I wasn't tired
Starting point is 00:13:09 you said you were tired look we're both tired boys for different reasons that society let's do our own cage fight society sometimes society sometimes
Starting point is 00:13:17 I think I'm the Zuckerberg in this fight I think sadly if we had a fight I've got the only chance I've got is to nail you
Starting point is 00:13:25 within about 30 seconds after that I'm completely fucking knackered yeah I'm gassing down the stretch big time I would say
Starting point is 00:13:30 so with this Zuckerberg fight Zuckerberg has hilariously massively called him on his bluff and yeah
Starting point is 00:13:38 because Zuckerberg has been quietly going about doing Jiu Jitsu a lot yeah and he seems to be quite good at it and so I would say
Starting point is 00:13:44 that Musk is just not in any way athletic he looks like a little slug worm boy um and yeah and and i just i just think he's absolutely outmaneuvered him and musk has been forced to sort of say that he's got a bad neck best pr to ever happen to zuckerberg yeah i mean you tie yourself to someone who's even worse than you and now you look great well it came out of nowhere didn't it sort of giving it the big licks giving it the uh giving it the um i'm gonna i'm gonna kick your ass i just i i don't know where this came from i don't know why zuckerberg offered it up but i just did do think that zuckerberg feels like he's kind of like in the pantheon of of quite underwhelming new money
Starting point is 00:14:24 he's old money do you know what i mean like he made his yeah he made his name they probably He's kind of like in the pantheon of quite underwhelming new money. He's old money. Do you know what I mean? Like he made his name. They probably made their money around about the same time, but he's been a public figure. No one knew who Musk was then, did they? And he only kind of became famous because of the space stuff, I suppose,
Starting point is 00:14:36 and the car stuff. I don't really know. Why is it? Here's a question for you. Elon Musk is obviously a complete fucking knob, right? No question about that. Take a cursory glance at his personal life. Look at how
Starting point is 00:14:52 he conducts himself. You don't need to be convinced of that unless you're one of his weird fanboys, and really, I'm not really talking to them. Why has he been able to be so successful? I'll tell you. I guess we spoke about this before, but it's... But I still don't feel like I know.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I don't know how he's been able to do it. He did the whole PayPal thing, didn't he? That was his... Have you ever listened to that podcast series by the guy with the amazing voice? Is it called Twitter vs Elon Musk? Right, okay. It's a really interesting it's called
Starting point is 00:15:25 flipping the bird it's a wondery series flipping the bird elon versus twitter and it's presented by the guy who does i think business wars for wondery he's fucking great he's really good he's an amazing voice amazing presenter and i listened to that series um it's about fucking i don't know eight or ten episodes long and it's got amazing access to the people at twitter of quite senior positions and their experiences of elon's work at twitter to the point where they've got audio of like meetings and stuff yeah okay and he is just unbelievably incompetent like unbelievably unprofessional like he he would do it all hands at twitter which is thousands of people all around the world and not have any answers to any questions and all
Starting point is 00:16:11 i'm saying is clearly he can't have applied that kind of attitude to the stuff he's done before so he's either capable of doing it and he doesn't want to do it with twitter yeah because he's lost his mind or he's just the luckiest man in the world. But, I mean, I guess he kind of, he's clearly, you know, a talented developer and, you know, he was around about the right time to do it. But I would say he kind of prospered in spite of his own input rather than because of it. You know, he's very much, he clearly had other people
Starting point is 00:16:43 in the company because we've seen from his behaviour afterwards. There was a bit where there was a guy interviewing him in front of one of his big rockets and they sort of... Get me in front of the big rocket. Get me in front of the big rocket. I'll do it in front of the big rocket. Why don't you do it this way?
Starting point is 00:16:59 And it seemed like they were using language that I kind of understood so it made me sort of think that it possibly wasn't the most advanced chat in the world and musk couldn't help but sort of go uh uh no because uh oh um yeah maybe we'll try that which right in any other sphere would be like oh good that that's really um great that he can listen to someone who presumably isn't part of his orbit and you know the best people have the best people around them but he did
Starting point is 00:17:30 sort of seem like he didn't really know what's going on I was going to say about the rocket I mean I guess that's very much how rockets get launched but yeah weird. It's all bluster it feels like it's all bluster anyway I don't know what we're talking about. I'd love to see him weird it's all bluster it feels like it's all bluster yeah anyway
Starting point is 00:17:45 anyway I don't know what we're talking about I'd love to see him fight I'd love to see him have a fucking fight because why not well because his whole brand is about snowflakery and being the big dog in the yard
Starting point is 00:17:55 and shit like that and memery and just seeing him get his neck broken by a little skinny man would be really funny Zuckerberg's already kicked him to the curb hasn't he?
Starting point is 00:18:05 So he's not serious. Forget it. Exactly. Yeah. Can't be arsed. Stop being stupid. He's quite interesting. And Musk is clearly just,
Starting point is 00:18:12 you know, so toxic. He'll just be thinking about it. But the best thing is, you know, that's all he'll be thinking about. There won't have been any, there won't have been any
Starting point is 00:18:19 all hands of the pump meetings in the last couple of weeks. This is all he would have been thinking about. And his public perception. It's like, mate, no one likes you. And this isn't going to make it any better. These people just want to be liked, don't they? I think that about Piers Morgan.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Piers Morgan, he just wants to be accepted as a football fan. And that's why we must never accept him. Because he's got everything else he wants. Well, that's what I mean. You build your empire doing terrible things. I'm not necessarily talking about Morgan here, but. You build your empire doing terrible things. I'm not necessarily talking about Morgan here, but obviously you build your empire doing terrible things. And then you sort of go,
Starting point is 00:18:51 oh, the one thing I can't buy is love. They just sort of spend their time trying to roll back all of the terrible things they've done. The one thing to credit Morgan, if you're going to be nuanced about it, because he's clearly awful, but the one thing to credit him is that when he was doing that Good Morning Britain show,
Starting point is 00:19:08 he showed his skill as a journalist, right? So he actually did a pretty good job at holding political figures to account and didn't take any shit from them live on telly and was like, well, I'm not having this. And he was properly combative, which is what we need. And he showed up, actually. I thought, because he's quite an unfashionable guy and because he's a quite dislikable guy and i totally understand that he actually showed how skillful he
Starting point is 00:19:32 is at doing that kind of stuff when compared to other people mostly who work for the bbc who've got a reputation as being really good at it he made them look fucking silly so that's the only thing i would say credits him everything else has been abysmal it's good stuff in america is good as well not upset the right people i would say but then oh yeah but i didn't but i didn't the thing is i didn't really my impression of that i understand what you're saying that my impression of that was that he didn't quite take the time to kind of learn about the nuances of the stuff he was talking about which made it like it was almost
Starting point is 00:20:07 completely performative but everyone on Fox is performative everyone on CNN everyone on every TV network is performative and I would say with him he just sort of
Starting point is 00:20:24 saw the Shapiros and the Milos of this world he just sort of saw the Shapiros and the Milos of this world and just sort of thought, look, that's the way that the grift is going. Let's start talking like an insane person for a bit. It's annoying for you because you've been doing that for 20 years. I know, right? But then he sort of pulls back from it a little bit, pumps the brakes a little bit when it becomes a bit more unpalatable
Starting point is 00:20:46 and he gets his feet under the table at GMB. So I think it was definitely done for a man who you wouldn't imagine doing a cynical move and then rowing back from it to get his feet under the ITV breakfast. And what's his reward now, Peter? So far.
Starting point is 00:21:04 A gig on talk TV. Is that what he's doing now? Good God. Yeah. It's just, these places aren't going to be around. It's very hard to stay motivated when you know. No one's watching. You know in your heart that no one's watching.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Yeah. I would better resist just fucking doing the swear word. Because no one's watching. Do you know what I mean? Do you remember when we had the ramble and no one listened to it? You could do whatever you wanted it was like
Starting point is 00:21:27 and you didn't give a shit because there was no stakes it's an incredible position to be in presumably he's been putting down quite a lot of money for doing that
Starting point is 00:21:35 as well but like you say that won't last anyway let's have a break and when we come back we'll do a couple of emails because we did promise
Starting point is 00:21:40 on Thursday we would do something I think we should squeeze some in Peter if that's alright with you it's the Lugo PTR I'm Pete Donaldson during that advertorial
Starting point is 00:21:48 we spoke a little bit about boxing we both watched the boxing at the weekend didn't we I mean a long time I fell asleep actually I watched some of it
Starting point is 00:21:56 good stuff my son actually went to sleep and I was like oh if I could watch all the boxing literally at 9.30 I was like
Starting point is 00:22:03 absolutely dead yeah good stuff woke up with that because I took a principal stand against praying for it oh, if I could watch all the boxing. And then literally at 9.30, I was like... Absolutely dead, yeah. Good stuff. Woke up with that... Because I took a principled stand against praying for it because of all the stuff that's been going on at the moment. Normally I do pay because I want to acknowledge the fact the fighters are doing what they're doing. But I took a stream this time around
Starting point is 00:22:17 and then you helped me get a stream and I woke up to the stream just not doing anything. Yeah, I think with that fight at the weekend and it was a weird one because obviously, when did he get replaced? Was it the day before, the week before? Like the actual fight? Yeah, it was maybe a week or so before.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Right, and because of a failed drugs test or something. But I just think that's a very, I mean, I think they gave people the opportunity to give their tickets back for money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you'd imagine that. And they took it off pay-per-view as well. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Oh, that makes sense. Does... Because it seemed to, like, Joshua's fights seem to start very late. Does boxing usually start about 11? I'm just thinking getting on from the O2, which is a bit of a nightmare. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:22:59 There's a few reasons, I would say, off the top of my head. One is that you don't have a forensic idea of when the fights are going to finish. So they have floating bouts that they put in at gaps. Because for example, if someone loses in the first round, the other, obviously, the boxer just can't say,
Starting point is 00:23:17 all right, yeah, I'll fight now then. They have to go through a routine to get ready. So I think what tends to happen is there's such a lot of moving parts that it does tend to get moved further back. And also, if a big boxer is doing a ring walk, say the main undercard fight, the support fight, is a big name, you can't really make them hurry their ring walk
Starting point is 00:23:36 and get ready when they're supposed to go. So it's just not an exact science. And then coupled with that, I get the impression that, and I'm not an expert on this at all, I'm just an enthusiast really, but I get the impression that they think the later in the night they can do it, the more people in America will watch. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, you sort of get that a lot,
Starting point is 00:23:53 obviously, with British performances of wrestling quite a lot. I bet. I would, I've become very obsessed in the last, I'm going to say day, and that's all it takes for me, with Big Bang. Big Bang, X'm going to say day, and that's all it takes for me, with Big Bang. Big Bang.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Zhi Lei Zhang. What's that? Big Chinese chap. Oh, the big Chinese fighter. Big Chinese guy. And I feel like getting excited about that man at this point in his career
Starting point is 00:24:17 seems like... He's 40. I mean, he's 40 years old. He's 40 years old. It's, I don't think I've caught him at his best. But he... Well, you say that, but he's just beaten Joe. It's, I don't think I've caught him at his best. But he... Well, you say that, but he's just beaten Joe Joyce.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Well, he's... Which is the biggest, biggest win of his career. His fucking eye, man. Joe Joyce's eye went like so, like, he couldn't see anything. Like, there's just no possibility. Isn't that weird that your face just suddenly, like, you'd think that Joe Joyce's, like, would be incompatible. If his eye had the capacity to do that it would have happened before and good god it went so big and just they
Starting point is 00:24:49 just had to stop stop it it's a really interesting story because joe joyce um is seen as a you know a british heavyweight prospect like he's no spring chicken himself i think he's like 37 but he started his professional career quite late right he started professional career like when he was in his early to mid 30s early 30s i think wow and then he had a So he started his professional career when he was in his early to mid-30s, early 30s, I think. And then he had a massive, he was undefeated until he lost to Zhilei Zhang earlier this year. But he had a massive domestic bust-up
Starting point is 00:25:14 with Daniel Dubois, who he wasn't expecting. So Daniel Dubois is now fighting Alexander Yusik for all the belts. Right. I think in a week or two. But anyway, Daniel Dubois was this kind of really well-fancied heavyweight prospect himself. A massive domestic bust-up of him and Joe Joyce.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Against all the odds, Joe Joyce beat him by doing exactly to him what Xie Lijian has just done to Joe Joyce. Right, okay. Busting his eye up to the point where he couldn't see. Yeah. Dubois had like a proper fraction, it was a fracture of his orbital bone around his eye. To the point where I don't see. Dubois had like a proper fraction it was a fracture of his orbital bone around his eye to the point where I don't think they knew if he could fight again but I think obviously he can now.
Starting point is 00:25:52 It's quite a common injury in boxing it's horrific. I mean Kell Brook had a really bad one to Gennady Golovkin who's a really heavy handed middleweight to the point where people were saying you cannot be fighting again with that. I mean he busted the bone around his eye about four times and you know they still wants to fight yeah they still want to get surgery and fight again it's just
Starting point is 00:26:15 it's it's not great i don't think it's great for the pr of boxing to be honest but then fighters if it's all they know and they fight their whole life and they get told they suddenly can't do it anymore i guess it brings its own problems and i think the surgery is so good these days they put like a plate in there and stuff like that that it does sort of that's cheating i was thinking that probably isn't it so i think i think joe joyce and zhi dai zhang have got a rematch because i think joe joyce had the um yeah had it at clause in the contract so i mean you will get to see the big man, Big Bang, fighting again soon. Six foot six and 40 years old,
Starting point is 00:26:48 just smashing people up. It's good stuff. It really is. So, yeah. Let's squeeze an email in before we go, Peter. Do you want Mark or do you want Greg? Can I get Mark, please? You can get Mark. Mark says, hello, Luke and Pete.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Mark from the Bay Area here. I was listening to last week's episode and I was wanting to add a story related to your chat about food delivery drivers. Luke was bragging his driver had picked up the food in seven minutes. However, I wanted to tell you the legendary DoorDash driver whose name is Lockvinder. I mean, Lockvinder is a great name. Mark says it was about a year ago and I'd just come home from a long day of work and I couldn't be bothered to cook anything.
Starting point is 00:27:22 So like any good all-American citizen, I ordered like to play games with you, please, because I love playing games online and I've got no friends. So let's talk about that. Mark says, before I could even accept the game invite, I was sent a notification my food was on the way. It had been three minutes. I couldn't believe it. Lockvinder posted up and as soon as the food was ready,
Starting point is 00:27:59 he hit the road like an Olympic sprinter. Now for context, my house at the time was about two and a half miles away from the restaurant which isn't far except when you realize the shop is on a busy expressway with many stoplights that constantly turn what should be a quick journey into a stop and go slog this means that on average it usually takes me about 15 minutes depending on traffic to go from mcdonald's to my house yet despite this lockvinder left the restaurant within minutes of the order and I received the food within eight minutes. I don't know how he did it
Starting point is 00:28:29 or what road laws he must have broken, but at the time it felt like a gift from God that was expressly delivered straight to my doorstep. And to top it all off, the food was fresh
Starting point is 00:28:37 and steaming hot. It was exactly what I needed after a long day of work. Anyway, thanks for the pod and the great hours of entertainment, Mark from the Bay Area. So in summary,
Starting point is 00:28:45 Mark has ordered McDonald's on the American equivalent of Deliveroo. And from placing confirm your order to it coming to his house was eight minutes. If anyone can beat that, I'll need to see proof. Yeah, I mean, Lock of Indah, this is where the cult of Lock of Indah begins,
Starting point is 00:29:00 really, isn't it? Because we have the power to create legends we have the power to make to create gods i think here on the little beach apex apex legend apex legends lock of inder i think he i think he deserves credit i think if he if he ever finds the time to listen to an episode of the luke and pete show while he's on his deliveries um he should know that he has friends in us he's welcome in this community although I wouldn't recommend he does listen while he's doing his deliveries because he should be listening to the traffic sounds around you. When I'm cycling into the office,
Starting point is 00:29:30 I am stunned regularly by the amount of cyclists using noise-canceling headphones. Headphones, yeah. At least have the ones that don't noise-cancel, for crying out loud. Yeah. It's crazy to do that. It's so dangerous. And some of them have got helmets on either. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Dangerous. Unbelievable. Anyway, we will get to Greg's email next time around, helmets on either dangerous anyway we will get to Greg's email next time round I'm sure or we will get to it at some point
Starting point is 00:29:47 Greg so stay patient thank you for emailing it it's in the running order it's made it through the very very strict producer Rory
Starting point is 00:29:54 filtering process so it's on there it will get read out at some point stay patient but yeah thank you to Mark for that story
Starting point is 00:30:02 alright then let's get out of here this has been the Luke and Pete show we'll be back on Let's get out of here. This has been the Luke and Pete Show. We'll be back on Let's Go With Thursday. Why not? Why not?
Starting point is 00:30:10 Traditionally. Don't get in touch as Luke said. Hello at LukeandPeteShow.com. You can find us on TikTok. We're on YouTube as well. Little clips up here and there, hither and thither. And we'll see you soon. See you later, Luke. Ciao, ciao.
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