The Luke and Pete Show - The Dirty Dentist

Episode Date: April 27, 2023

Pete’s teeth still hurt two weeks after he got his first filling. He’s since found out that the person he saw is nicknamed “The Dirty Dentist” - Oh dear!Elsewhere, we hear about an AI-generated photo that won a photography competition and a listener tells us about a very unusual encounter he had with Pete at WrestleMania. At least Pete clears things up though. Well, kind of...Want to get in touch with the show? Email: [e-mail] or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshowWe're also now on Tiktok! Follow us @thelukeandpeteshow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the Luke and Pete Show. I'm Pete Donaldson. It is Thursday, Thursday the 27th of April. My name's Pete Donaldson. I'm joined by Mr. Lukey Moore. Luke, we spoke a few weeks ago about me going to the dentist for the first time in about 10 years to get what can only be described as my first... One for the American listeners there.

The stereotype is very much fulfilled. I knew it. I fucking knew it. They're all like that. They're all like that. And I got a filling, my first filling at 41. Didn't manage to get to 42. Very upset about that.

But the thing is, that is a bit of a misnomer because you can't get a feeling if you don't see a professional that can do the job it's a good point but he said it was a it was a it was a um it was a fringe case anyway he said you can have it if you want don't make you feel better exactly make you feel better exactly so uh he did it and uh i um hurt it fucking hurts every night when i go to bed it fucking. Every time I drink a cold glass of water, which I am now very much into, the water scene. No one can see that coming. Fucking,

my tooth fucking hurts. How long ago was that? Couple of weeks. Well, a week and a half. So I've had fillings where for two solid weeks it's been really painful but then it subsides.

So if it doesn't subside after a wee while, you need to go get it checked out because it might be infected. Yeah, that's what i'm thinking i yeah well i'm glad that's the case because i did talk to my neighbor and said i went to the uh this for the first time blah blah blah uh and he said uh well the americans have you know about that i say yeah i know and and he and and he said uh where did you go i went with the one i mean the one literally i couldn't get on the nhs so i fucking paid private. So I got the one right close to my house,

the one down the end of the road. Oh, the dirty dentist, he said. Oh, for fuck's sake. So apparently he's got a bit of a reputation for being a dirty dentist. He's got his mards and twigs up in the hole. Like he used to do in medieval times. Like a bear's arse before hibernation. Is this a fin or is this some kind of poultice kind of recipe

from a fucking local witch? Yeah, absolutely terrible. Have you got bits of mud and twigs coming out your mouth? Because if that's the case, what you should do is if your teeth get really bad, just grow that moustache really long. Yeah. And just kind of like reseed the keratin

by sort of feeding the moustache into the mouth. Or just cover it up. Because apparently, you know Queen Elizabeth I? Yes. So, in her final years, according to the historical record and

accounts of the time, there was no, at the time of course, there was no adequate dentistry. We're talking about whatever it would have been the 16th century i think and um and so when so abscesses and tooth infections were actually a leading cause of death and um there's there's i'm paraphrasing i'd have to look it up but i'm i'm pretty sure that she was in a right old state and then when she was seeing visitors and holding court and stuff,

some of the reports are like she had just loads of clothes shoved in her mouth, like perfumed handkerchief shoved in there. So her mouth was basically stuffed full of this, all these bits and pieces. Just a numb. Yeah, because her mouth was in such a state that it was horrific to look at. So could be you in a few months that it was horrific to look at.

So could be you in a few months. I mean, that is awful. Because tooth pain is like, no other pain, really. It really cuts through. The cloves are good. Cloves are actually a natural way of subsiding that pain. Yeah, because they just numb the area, I suppose, don't they? I think so. They're very strong.

Very distinctive smell and taste, the cloves. I have to get me some gloves. So what's your next move going to be with a dirty dentist? Dirty Den. Is he going to play on Dirty Den from EastEnders? I don't know. I mean, because you can feel it. You do sort of go, I mean, I could just get a little, just get a little screwdriver and pop that out.

But I'm sure that's not how it works. I suppose they have to. Well, the other thing that could have happened... I can't close my mouth properly. Well, still now? Yeah. It's not sort of calmed down. Because I thought it would follow the contours

of my original tooth, but I literally can't close my teeth as much as I could before. Are you pleased with the dentistry that's happened? This doesn't sound right. It doesn't sound right, does it? But what could have happened is what I mentioned to you a few weeks ago that you completely dismissed as hearsay

as i said don't get on a plane as soon as you've had a filling oh yes because it pops out it can make it can change the shape of it because the air gets trapped in there yeah and the pressure of it makes it could be that yeah it could be me high flight yeah you know what you know how smug i am can you imagine how much i want it to be that? Even though I said that before you went. I would have preferred if the plane went down, to be honest. More palatable. Never mind.

Peter, there's a subject I wanted to chat to you about, which I think is just right up your street, and you'll give me an insight into it that no one else will. Did you see this story that broke, i think last week of the sony world photography award where the winner of it um has refused the prize that he was awarded um because he said you know he basically admitted that it was created using ai software and and fine we know we know AI is happening, people are talking about it, whatever.

But the fact that this is essentially winning big prizes and people who are supposed to be experts in the field and judging these things haven't noticed, is that something that should be of note? Well, I think that if you are, and there's been so many situations where winning photographers, people who win photography prizes

have been proved to have manipulated it in a way that was not done in camera. There are certain kind of tells from Photoshop and other products that you've manipulated a picture, obviously, but there's also like, there's no, I don't think there's any sort of definite way you can kind of prove that something that comes out of the camera,

certainly digitally, hasn't been fucked with. Because there's always a way of hack and tear. There just always is. And it's not encrypted. You know, it's all out there. So like, I guess people who are judging these competitions are very much judging the usual things that they would expect to see

for someone to try to pull the wool over their eyes and now on top of this they've got to kind of be really on top of ai practices and how good ai photography is etc etc and um the picture the image in in question that that um that people have put on the BBC actual piece about this thing. You know, Sony World Photography Award 2023, the winner refuses award after revealing AI creation. The picture that I've used, there seems to be like kind of a streaky kind of like mess on the left-hand side of the picture,

which makes it look like someone's taken a picture of the picture. And it's basically a woman and a woman sort of doing a tender kiss or maybe a zombie bite into the back of her shoulder. And it kind, if you know it's AI generated, it kind of looks AI generated. There's a lot of soft, fuzzy kind of stuff to it. The fingers look a bit shit. Like if you're looking for this kind of thing,

like it seems to be, if you looked at that and you knew there was ai possibly involved i like nine times out of ten you'd sort of go well that looks quite suspectful to me i would i would suspect that picture of being ai if i knew there was ai involved you know what i mean well if you look at the bottom if you're looking at it right now but if you look at the fingers in the bottom right hand side yeah one of them's all bent it says to me how on earth did that win anything like what the fuck even is that it doesn't even look like a properly rendered image yeah yeah and so the problem is it's obviously obviously all subjective and all that kind of stuff yeah i've often felt like even way before AI really had a meaningful impact on this,

in photography, it is problematic. Because I had a girlfriend whose father was really into photography, and he was a good photographer, and he took it really seriously. And he would use, mostly he'd just use DSLRs and that kind of stuff. But he would have a load of gear. And then what he would do is he would spend probably twice the amount of time he was out in the field, altering images in on the computer when he got home yeah and i just remember thinking even then that didn't sit right with me that's like i feel like

i feel like if you're just going to take a photo a big part of photography is obviously lighting composition focus all that kind of stuff that's the skill right that's the skill of it so if you're going to take a photo that would be a good photo if only i just took that bit out and changed the lighting there what's the fucking point yeah well i mean there will be purists in the photography scene who who think that way but i think there's a kind of tacit kind of understanding that that people just do this and manipulate and and uh yeah people just do this. I mean, there's very few... I mean, even if you're painting or even if you... I mean, it's kind of difficult to paint because you can literally do

whatever the fuck you want, but like, there's shortcuts and things you can do to make a picture look more appetising. You know, a nice frame, for example. What they're going to need to do for these prizes that do really burnish a reputation in a field, they're going to basically need to start saying, prizes that do really burnish a reputation in a field they're going to basically need to start saying whether it's painting or photography or whatever they're going to need

to say you need to go back to analog basically analog production so if you're going to do a photography prize it needs to be done on film it needs to be um documented and needs to be not manipulated in post. But there are those competitions, but with that, you can still manipulate negatives, can't you? Even if you're supplying negatives, unless you supply a roll of film that's been

unexposed to light and send them that and go, right, process that, there might be something good in it, there might not be. That's the closest you can do really, I think. Because in the art of development i suppose everything has to yeah because you could take a picture you could i could take a picture of a tv screen showing a manipulated image um and that would be on a negative you know and you and you by and large probably wouldn't detect that it was a that it was a picture if you had enough pixels in there but yeah it's it's difficult and it's sad and it's rubbish.

But, and you know, AI art is so fucking underwhelming. Well, it's not underwhelming, it's incredible, but it's underwhelming that a lot of people, I think Charles Gambino, what's his real name? Donald Glover. Donald Glover. That's all the World Cup opening ceremonies. He started a movie or TV show um company and one of the roles

they're advertising for they weren't advertising for like art director or um artists it was an animation studio they weren't um they weren't advertising for anyone who could actually physically do animation it was literally uh like chat you know chat tv but like ai arts prompt expert basically right someone who can fucking you know pull pull the right strings on it on an ai um but um which is fucking depressing yeah and what did you what did you make of that oasis thing that broke last week as well that you and i shared with marcus speller independently of each other yeah i just thought you might like it um yeah i mean it's pretty it's pretty atrocious

let me just let me just explain to listeners who may not have heard it so Oasis obviously big British band

released three records in the 90s definitely maybe What's the Story of Morning Glory and Be Here Now and then general consensus is Be Here Now

is the start of when they start to drop off and then later on their music's not seen as being as interesting or popular or critically important whatever although they are still obviously seismically popular everyone knows that yeah there's a guy who was in a band in the 90s called breezer who i like it's not the most 90s band name ever and he and he openly said

look um we want to be oasis so our music sounds exactly like Oasis would because I used to idolize Noel and Liam Gallagher um and I was the singer and uh as I was going back over these old tapes and and remastering them or whatever because I think he's a bit of a producer as well he said oh I'll just use an AI piece of software to get Liam Gallagher to sing it right oh so that's what that's what basically happened so essentially um essentially um he uploaded a thing called a isis for half it's a half hour youtube video you can find it online pretty easily of all their songs in one kind of video essentially of liam gallagher singing his lyrics and the interesting thing about it isn't whether it's got any artistic merit or not because that's obviously completely subjective right the interesting thing about it isn't whether it's got any artistic merit or not because that's obviously completely subjective right the interesting thing about it is the question

would be if you didn't know that backstory and someone presented it to the world and said check out this lost tape we found of oasis would you know and i don't and i think the answer is you wouldn't know and and that and regardless whether you liked it or not it sounds exactly like that era oasis sung authentically by liam gallagher and i don't think it's any worse on paper than some of the more plodding oasis songs now that to me is philosophically fucking interesting because it's obviously already clear i believe it's obvious to me anyway that people who don't have a huge interest in music are going to be dominated by the ai end of music production in in a few short years maybe if possibly they already are because ai is now able

to generate this music that sounds fine that will occupy the background of a shop or even a dinner party for people who basically don't get any more ambitious in music than fucking dido which is completely up to them and i'm not judging them for that i think ai will have that particular part of the market sewn up before you know it so i think yeah i mean i i mean i disagree with you. I think the implementation of Liam Gallagher's voice on that album is, I mean, it's atrocious. It sounds like a robot. But did you honestly think that?

Because I don't think many people will agree with that. No, it's pretty. I think you know the context of it makes it different for you. No, out of all of these AI voices, I mean, it's pretty low down there as being... I'm sure if he had a crack with someone who was a bit better at that side of things, he would do a better job.

It would sound exactly like him. We'll share the link so people can listen to it. It's able to be done. And it has been done elsewhere. But yeah, I don't think it's great. But yeah, you're right.'t think it's great but um yeah you're right i think you are in a situation where you are like who's making money out of that and and the people who are sort of pulling the strings will be the ones who just want to make the most

amount of money and the least amount of art uh in in in the quickest amount of time and even like spotify are doing it now with um sort of really cheap sort of library music on their playlists they're sort of getting those kind of famous chilled out sort of lo-fi playlists and they are populated it with yeah all right the big you know the big hitters in that genre who are on major labels but every third song is a fake song it was not a fake song but it's a song that's um a a a sal salaried musician that is employed by Spotify to just fucking bash out, churn out genre specific songs so that Spotify can just slide them in to these big, long playlists. you know, three pence to a major label, they're paying no pence to themselves, effectively,

taking up a bit of time on their players. That's why podcasts are so popular with Spotify. That's why Spotify went in and paid a loan of money for people's podcasts, because it's cheaper than paying money out to musicians, effectively, because they want to maximise their money. And, you know, no one's making any money in Netflix. No one's making any money in Netflix. No one's making any money in Spotify. So it's kind of, they're just trying to sort of elongate

the crash vector that they've got ongoing with every company in the world. Yeah. I broadly agree with that. But that's just charming to what I said, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's just going to be people, it's just going to be the city sort of going,

right, people seem to like this. Let's press a button. Let's turn up this dial and give them what they want. And it's just going to lead to everyone just getting very boring. Very boring. But I think there is still going to be, so I'm not saying what I said about the music industry generally. I'm very specifically pointing out a certain type of consumer.

So I think there will be a place, of course, for, you know, without being too high-minded about it, songwriting that reflects the human condition the same way that any kind of art reflects the human condition that AI can't really, at this point, of course, replicate. And I don't know if you're aware of it, but there's a Nick Cave, who's probably my favorite songwriter, does a brilliant email subscription thing called the Red Hand Files. And every week he selects a letter that's been sent to him and he responds.

And it can be about anything. And there was one about ChatGPT. It wasn't even that long ago. I think it was maybe about two, three months ago, where someone said, Dear Nick, I asked ChatGPT to write a song in the style of Nick Cave. This is what he produced. What do you think?

And he lists the lyrics of the song. And Nick Cave's answer is really interesting, and I'll happily share it with the listeners. He basically says this is just a complete travesty of what it should be, and understandably so, because it's only ever going to be a computer replication of basically a load of data in and then some data out. And that's almost like a category misunderstanding of what it is to write a song and he says here he says that you know songs arise out of suffering by which i mean they are predicated upon complex eternal human struggle of creation and algorithms don't feel that data

doesn't suffer chat gpt has no inner being it has been nowhere it's endured nothing it has not had the audacity to reach beyond its limitations and therefore it doesn't have the capacity for a shared experience and because it has no limitations from which to transcend so the point being on that end of the music spectrum it's never going to be any different because people aren't going to have that and think of it as an authentic experience unless they are almost chat gpt or ai native i.e they're born in like 20 years time and they don't see the value in the difference between it anyway, right? Yeah, no, I completely agree. And I don't think you can really put it any better

than how Nick Cave's done it there. But I think the annoying thing is that it's just another example of the internet ripping off artists and sort of saying, well, you know, it's an AI. You didn't create any of this. Well, you did because we've basically, for free, put all of our stuff up there. We've put all that stuff up there and basically the city,

you know, whoever's going to make a lot of money out of this, has just taken that data that is copyrighted, that is ours, that is demonstrably ours and owned by us, however you find it on the internet, and they've just sort of sucked it in and spat it out in this fucking sausage. Yeah. And it's excruciatingly annoying.

Really fucking annoying. I've had a few listeners send me ChatGPT AI versions of my stuff. Oh, right, yeah. You expected me to be interested in it? Well, it is interesting. Yeah, it's interesting, but it's also, in my view, it's only my opinion.

Maybe I'm overly sensitive about it, and that's fair enough. But it's also a fucking insult. Right. But I mean, I would also say that we have used on other podcasts software that cleans up a voice when you're... That's fine. Is it fine? I think that's different. To me, that's different. That's using an example of your voice and reconstructing it using a computer, using the same data, using the same discipline that chat GPT uses.

Of the things I thought, prepared for and said, which I'm happy to commit to in retrospect. It's not... Right. What I'm talking about is them generating some kind of content from the data they've taken from my voice over the years and producing something completely new that I neither think nor would say. Yeah.

I mean, I think you've got every right to be offended by that side of things yeah that's what good that's that's settled then fine um look i think it's a really interesting thing and of course you've got to be careful in the industry we're in or indeed any kind of you know technology adjacent industry to be like throwing your your clog in the lace making machine of progress but at the same time with this it feels a little bit like a Rubicon may have been crossed. Yeah, but I would say that the more AI stuff is around, you do sort of go, well, I mean, there's probably a place for us. There's probably a place for independent kind of unexpected thought. There's probably something there for like honesty

and real life and people. And, you know, that's why I don't like Youngblood. Because I think he's made from AI. Because there's a reaction to, so what you're saying is there's a reaction to any action anyway. Yeah.

It's the difference between Nick Cave and Youngblood. Youngblood is a facsimile of a facsimile of what was on a t-shirt in camden in the late 90s and and nick cave is brilliant yeah and uncompromising and yeah and thoughtful and intelligent and yeah truly artistic and yeah you know the the as i said to you before the the the biggest evidence or the most compelling evidence for nick cave being a true artist is when he's you know, tragically and awfully,

his son passes away suddenly. And his first instinct is to generate, is to channel that into creation, artistic creation, because that's the only language he really knows. Whereas most people would be like, I need to get away from this. I need to get away from everything and just come to terms with this. He channels it into something meaningful, right? It's incredibly powerful, the stuff he's able to produce you know he did a whole album which is basically about how he still feels worried for his son's welfare even though he

knows his son is physically dead and he can't explain the emotions he has you know that's like a proper artistic endeavor you know really genuinely thoughtful quite compelling but also difficult to listen to stuff. I mean, the thing is, he's lost two children, hasn't he? He has, yeah. He has, yeah. Absolutely wild what that man's been.

The fact that he's even still breathing himself is just, you know, incredible. Let's have a break and take a little bit of a rest from all this heavy stuff because when we come back the other side, we're going to do something quite frivolous. Okay, cool.

All right, then. We're back with some Luke and Pete show fun this Thursday. And so we, of course, are going to bash through a few battery brands. We're going to do these

very, very quickly because we've got some emails to get through. Sai is coming with, gents, could this possibly be another undiscovered cell? Has the weather improved this weekend?

It was time to venture into the garden and have a good tidy up upon revisiting my barbecue meat thermometer. I noticed, well, there's a battery in it, basically. Yeah, the Nuo Jing Alkaline. It's yellow, it's green, it's classic, and I like the logo.

Nuo Jing Alkaline. Yeah, brand new player, Si. Congratulations to you. We've never seen that before. I like to hear as well that you're getting out there and revisiting your barbecue. That means summer must truly be on the way, which i'm i don't particularly care for summer personally i'd take it or leave it but i know that it makes everyone else feel very very happy which therefore in turn

makes my life better so good for you simon and congratulations on your new player get yourself an uncooked sausage luke hola amigo says sean from whitley bear as sad as the wife i have access to think this is i bloody love finding new batteries for you fellas. I've just been on holiday in Buenos Aires to drink all the red wine and eat all the steak. Fantastic. It's an incredibly cool city, and given that it's really far away, I'm hoping the batteries I have found will be successful in achieving new player status. I present a mismatched set that had one Bic, ubiquitous for cheap pens and disposable razors, but I've never seen them in the Cell game and a Nova cell as well one so in one battery pack there was a Bic with the Byro man is the

Byro branded Bic battery alkaline and a Nova cell in one because usually this is a brand battery in two um yeah so so what we're looking at here have we had a Bic before? We've not had a Bic before, so I'm delighted to report that Bic is a new player. Sean from Whitley Bay is a regular contributor to our show. Congratulations, Sean. God bless him. Good for him to get a new player. Novosel has been sent in before, however.

That's been sent in a while back now. I think he's the second or the third person to send that one in, but Bic is a new player. Yeah, and he also sent a picture of a boggle-eyed baby Jesus that was on a stained glass window in the Recoleta Cemetery. Looks Bic is a new player. Yeah. And he also sent a picture of a boggle-eyed baby Jesus that was on a stained glass window in the Recoleta Cemetery. Looks a bit like Rick Mayall. It does look like Rick Mayall

or maybe Dusty Rhodes, the wrestler. Yeah, a bit of both. Stick it on the Twitter, will you, Rory? Fantastic. I think everyone should see that. It really made me laugh

at ages in the solemnity of one of the world's most famous cemeteries. Sean from Buenos Aires this week. Whitley being a normal one. Very enjoyable. Finally, for now, we've got one more left, haven't we?

Gabby Mackay. Mackay, Mackay, Mackay. Multiple entries. Skymax Alkaline, an S-Budget Power Alkaline, and an XRD Jinkeda. As a listener from day one, it has, of course, always been a dream of mine to enter a new player into the game.

And, you know, Gabi is doing her best to get one in the Hall of Fame because they've come up with three, three different ones. Yes, a Skymax Alkaline, S-Budget Power Alkaline are both, in theory, new players. There's a lot of potential there. The XRD Zinkader isn't a new player, so you can forget that one for now. But the top two are new players. There's a lot of potential there. The XRD Zincada isn't a new player,

so you can forget that one for now. But the top two are new players. However, Peter, Gabby hasn't sent in any photographic evidence of said batteries, so he's going to need to work a bit harder before he gets those two batteries officially welcomed into the battery daddy.

So look, we'll call it a holding pattern for now, Pete, unless you want to make a ruling. But no photos, no party, I'm afraid. That's fine. But I would say that these batteries were discovered in the beautiful nation of Hungary in an Airbnb near the Buki Nemzeti National Park. It took some time to see if it could locate some rural Hungarian players.

And so maybe those who are hoping to find a new player in the battery game, Hungary might be a fertile hunting ground, maybe. Yeah, it's all very nice and stuff, but he's got to send a photo. Got to send a photo. Yeah, but do send a photo. Thank you very much. Yeah, otherwise you could be saying anything, couldn't you? Exactly.

That is true. All right, thank you very much for that. We'll do some more batteries next Thursday. And before we go, I want to squeeze this email in from our friend Liam who has the following to say. He's emailed in hello at LukeandPeteShow.com You can do the same. And if we like the email, we'll of course read it out. Liam,

I'll let him pick up the story. He says, Alright lads, I was in Los Angeles for WrestleMania weekend. And as an audience member who's listened to every episode of both the Luke and Pete show and Wrestle.me brackets including Patreon I was well aware there would be an above average chance of an accidental

encounter with the WrestleMe boys said encounter provided itself to me on a platter but what happened from my perspective anyway was quite unusual I got off the shuttle bus that ran between the SoFi Stadium and the Millennium Biltmore Hotel in downtown la only for mark haynes to be stood on the pavement as the bus opened its

doors he was smoking minding his own business i almost passed on the chance to acknowledge him but decided instead to put out a hand and introduce myself and simply say i'm a big fan of the podcast he was incredibly pleasant he asked if i enjoyed the show as we moaned about paying $22 for a pint of Modelo. I mean, that is fucking rich. $22 for a pint of Modelo. It was horrific from start to finish. LA is a shit town for shit people. I hate it.

I hate what it stands for. I hate it. But wrestling's good. Mark Haynes is a ray of sunshine as well in that particular environment. Lovely fella. Would he have been smoking a vape? No, when he's away, he just goes for tabs

and, you know, at the airport, he can always buy a lot. Well, yeah, pretty much. He actually finds it quite hard to get off and when he gets back. Okay, I'm sure he does. But he's not here to defend himself, so we'll leave that one there.

Liam says, it's at this moment, I'm not entirely sure what happened. A tucked up security guard came bursting through the glass door. Pete was with him, but sort of leaning around the glass door, but beneath him. The security guard was angrily gesturing and explained to Mr. Haynes that he must be at least 25 feet away to smoke. While the stern security guard wasn't taken too kindly to Mark's exaggerated counting of steps like a referee counting a wall back at a free kick,

Pete was explaining something really, really fast and in quite a frantic manner. But from where I was standing, it looks like he brought the security guard over solely to get Mark away from the side entrance we were standing at. It was a bit of a blur and as security shut the door, he enclosed Pete back inside with him. I continued to talk with Mark about five steps away from the side entrance, both of us pretending what just happened hadn't happened. But it's really played in my mind. What was Pete actually saying and doing? Why did he appear to be wearing a dinner jacket

mere minutes after WrestleMania finished? And why had he seemingly attracted the attention of a security guard towards his podcast partner, Liam? I mean, some of that is accurate liam is it is it so what i would say is this i instantly believed liam yeah yeah well you would wouldn't you yeah shitbag because i know you yeah i would say that the thing that got me like so i remember this situation and this is all that happened. I was knackered because fucking jet lag, LA, fuck off. And after the first day of WrestleMania, and I was just fucking knackered.

And I was like, right, I'm going to bed. It's 10 o'clock. I'm tired. And then I stopped at the vending machine and got Mark a bottle of water. Why were you dressing a tux? I wasn't dressing a tux. I was just wearing a jacket,

which is for wrestling fans. I'm not saying Liam, but I don't like going to wrestling shows dressed in a black t-shirt with Bullet Club written on it. He was definitely confused as to why you were dressed like that. We are including Liam in that.

You can't excuse Liam from this. And also, I'm just hoping that one of the managers are going to get a bad leg and go, we need someone in a dinner jacket to come down and be, I don't know, fucking Asker's manager for the night. Oh, imagine the disappointment when they get you.

This doesn't want to have a single controversial conversation at any point. And so I'm in a situation where I am just giving Mark a bottle of water that's all give Mark a bottle of water Liam found it confusing I wasn't involved in the security

guard the security guard was doing what he needed to do to get Mark away from the clearly very flammable hotel we were staying

in and yeah it's kind of the thing there was a guy outside WrestleMania at the SoFi Stadium itself that made Mark walk.

The whole thing was just men going, sir, can you please step away from the building with the cigarette? And it's like, don't fucking sell them if you can't smoke them. It's ridiculous. We're outside for crying out loud. And they're sort of like, one of them went outside the SoFi Stadium. Sorry, sir. Just to let you know, you can't actually smoke close to the SoFi Stadium. And I felt like going, right, you're a security guard.

Either tell him what to do, but don't preface it with just to let you know. You might think that's softening. I just think that's optional. You know what I mean? Yeah. Just to let you know. It's passive aggressive. It's passag.

It is passag. And so are you happy to go on record as you firmly believe that passive smoking isn't a problem for people's health not in Los Angeles too warm innit and it's very smoggy anyway

it is yeah innit I think we've kind of semi cleared that up I mean I it's difficult for me because I know you quite well

I may be so bold and you may feel the same about me and that's fine I've known your behaviour to be occasionally quite odd unbelievable and Liam's obviously just reporting've known your behavior to be occasionally quite odd. Unbelievable.

And Liam's obviously just reporting what he saw. In the words of that BBC show about, podcast about paranormal stuff, I know what I saw, says Liam. So you've half explained it. I was not, yeah. I was not involved in the security guard situation, but I was giving a bottle of water to a friend. It's quiet.

You're just following orders. Just following orders, yeah. On that note, we shall bid you adieu. We shall love you and leave you. We'll be back on Monday. We hope you've had a lovely week and you're going to get yourself

to the home stretch now. Presumably you're not working the weekend. Shout out to all the shift workers out there. We always say that. Thank God it's Friday. What about the shift workers, Pete? What about the shift workers exactly? They We always say that. Oh, thank God it's Friday. What about the shift workers, Pete? What about the shift workers exactly? They're busy bees too.

So, yeah. I hope this episode gets you through whatever shift you're doing, if that's the case. But we will be back on Monday. Thanks for sticking around with us. Do tell your pals about the show. Do leave us a five-star review

if you get a chance. It only takes you a couple of minutes. Helps us immensely, immeasurably. And we would be very grateful for it as well. But that's it from us. Peter, say ta-ta it's goodbye from me as well the luke and pete show is a stack production and part of the acast creator network