The Luke and Pete Show - The Fiat 3 Trillion

Episode Date: December 29, 2022

Pete's fed up of Luke's quaint highlights of the year, so today, the gloves are off as we complete our review of 2022.Elsewhere, Pete declares that his Fiat 500 is the world’s first three trillion d...ollar car and the lads also discover it’s possible to feel emotion towards a piece of tech on the surface of Mars.Thank you from Luke, Pete and the whole of the Stak team for all your support throughout 2022. We'll be back in 2023 where we will continue to make many more shows for you to enjoy.Want to contact the show? Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to the Luke and Pete show I say welcome back it's not an ad break this is the start of the show for Crying Out Loud it's Thursday
Starting point is 00:00:16 the 29th of December the day after John Legend's birthday good to get a reminder good time Johnny will be
Starting point is 00:00:24 featuring the very best uh battery brands and we're going to be talking about all things 2022 a little dirty roundup of uh the year that has just gone does that make sense lukey moore it does and i think um we should also maybe talk about some of our hopes fears and dreams for 2023 as well um i think that's probably the best way of doing this um what do you think john legend got up to on his birthday i mean it's just after christmas people are probably a bit of a downy you know just had loads of entertaining to do i've done loads of eating and drinking can't really be bothered to raise myself for your birthday john uh are you going to get the piano
Starting point is 00:00:57 out i think that's what people yeah i mean he probably did quite a lot of that on christmas day and and boxing day to be honest so he probably had quite a you know he probably celebrated quite low key uh piano key in his case minor and monkey and uh he and he probably just i don't know appeared on he probably like took it easy and probably only appeared on like seven uh political podcasts yeah maybe and do you think also if you're like if you're you're john legend you're on a big gathering at christmas and let's be honest he's wealthy right so maybe it's it's a reasonable assumption to say he's probably either his own house or someone else wealthy's house who are gonna have a piano do you think he gets tired of the idea that people just want to play you know
Starting point is 00:01:39 christmas carols or christmas songs on the piano and stuff what do you think he's up for it i i think people who can play the piano are quite game for that sort of thing. Because it's quite a communal, kind of joyful instrument, isn't it? The old percussion, the old piano. So it's quite nice to get everyone around the old Joanna
Starting point is 00:02:00 and play some Chas and Dave. And you're a natural... I don't think he's doing Chas and Dave. But if you're a natural performer I don't think he's doing Chas and Dave, but if you're, if you're, if you're a natural performer anyway, you probably relish it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Yeah. You'd probably, you'd probably relish those times. And, and I think if, yeah, I can imagine like the family, is it Chrissy,
Starting point is 00:02:16 whatever her name is, and the family also likes Chrissy Teigen, all that sat around just having a, having a little sing song around the piano. It sounds lovely. It sounds absolutely idyllic. Yeah, I think so. I think I wish him all the very best,
Starting point is 00:02:28 but he didn't answer my question. Do you think he's still going? Do you think he just goes all the way through? Oh, what, just playing a song every day, like playing music all the time? Yeah, I think there's a chance that he might have a little break on the 27th probably. Because what's interesting is I don't think Boxing Day
Starting point is 00:02:43 is that big a deal in the US. Right. I mean, is it a big deal over here though? It's a holiday, isn't it? I'm not that excited about it. Right, yeah, I guess so. And we get shopping in, don't we? We do.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Well, some people do. It's like Black Friday in the US, the day after Thanksgiving. Boxing Day is kind of that here really, isn't it? Oh, the Boxing Day sales. Yeah, I suppose it is, isn't it? Do people still go out and... I mean, it's all here, really, isn't it? Oh, the Boxing Day sales. Yeah, I suppose it is, isn't it? Do people still go out and sort of... I mean, it's all about online shopping, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:03:10 Yeah, so you've got Cyber Monday and all that kind of stuff now. But I never really used to go out shopping on Boxing Day anyway, because I was always either hung over or went out to the pub with my pals, because I'm a bloody... Speaking of John Legend, I'm a bloody legend for doing that. Yeah. I don't remember
Starting point is 00:03:27 any sort of particularly particularly shopping-y boxing days yeah but I think I think boxing day was always the day
Starting point is 00:03:34 I went out with my school mates and got pissed and then and then sort of made my way back down to Leicester on the 27th usually
Starting point is 00:03:42 very nice for New Year's Eve that is a what did you used to how did you used to hit 27th usually. Very nice. For New Year's Eve. That is a... And what did you used to... How did you used to hit... Because we're not doing a show on New Year's Eve this year. So tell me how you used to hit Leicester hard on New Year's Eve.
Starting point is 00:03:54 What was the vibe? I mean, it was always... It was depending on who was still around. Because obviously, you know, university people go home for the period. But in the main, my house would usually be full of people. To be honest, we'd usually go down to Oxygen Nightclub with a... Buy tickets? Say again?
Starting point is 00:04:13 Did you have to buy tickets? No, I don't think you did have to, to be honest, because it was a rather unlovable little shitty little place. But we would get a big bottle of orange juice vodka and fill up an empty carton of
Starting point is 00:04:29 milk with a mucky mixture of booze and stroll down to there in our really baggy jeans I didn't question
Starting point is 00:04:36 you going in there with a milk carton full of booze I didn't go in there I mean that was our walkie drinks weren't we so you're like
Starting point is 00:04:42 basically Ron Burgundy in Anchorman walkie drinks around and't it? So you're like basically Ron Burgundy in Anchorman. There's little walkie drinks around. And then you would be a straight-through crew guy, would you? Would you go all the way through to New Year's Day and then carry on partying, baby? No, I'd probably be being sick in the street at about two o'clock in the morning going,
Starting point is 00:04:58 how can I start the year like this? More efficient. I would hate to be ruining the first couple of hours of the new year in the same way that I remember in Hartlepool running home to my house where my mum and dad lived before Christmas Day because I didn't want to be out drinking when the clock struck 12. Oh, this is a delightful insight into your psychology. So basically...
Starting point is 00:05:22 It's weird, isn't it? You would do whatever you could to be home like basically like the pump they'll turn it into a pumpkin yeah as soon as and did you ever did you always make it no no no half the time i'll be getting at two o'clock feeling like feeling like i'd let everyone down yeah and then like eight o'clock in the morning when everyone else is up uh checking out their presents i was like oh dear but did you used to make the effort and go down as well no what time would you surface i would delay delay it till at least about nine o'clock ten o'clock uh so but but everybody would they'd wait for me but i still felt like i was a scumbag and i was ruining christmas yeah do you want to add any more to that or are you finished i'm just
Starting point is 00:06:03 sorry i'm sorry, everyone. So I used to hit it pretty hard on Christmas Eve, but I had to always know my limit because my mum would kick the shit out of me. Not physically. If I wasn't up at the right time on Christmas Day. Some of my friends used to go way over the top. So basically, we used to go to a local pub and when it kicked out that was generally
Starting point is 00:06:25 fine i could walk home i'd be home by like you say midnight and that'd be fine getting up at 7 38 would be okay um and uh because obviously you're a teenager or you're in your early 20s so you can kind of bounce back um but there was always talk around last orders being called in that local pub about getting a cab around to Portsmouth which is essentially for those of you don't understand the geography of southern England where I grew up that involves having to get a cab all the way around the top of the harbour to Portsmouth which is about a 25 minute cab journey to go to like a nightclub on Christmas Eve for like two hours and they have to get a cab all the way back round again because there'd be no ferry and it's just it's just
Starting point is 00:07:04 pointless but some people always did it I never understand why basically because they couldn't get enough of the booze right i remember once my friend um my friend duncan got so drunk on christmas eve that and he was it was it was impossible to move they couldn't get him couldn't get him home and so he ended up check this out being wheeled by his mate and his brother in a wheelie bin to the front door of the house and then his brother had to ring the doorbell to get his dad down to help him into the house i just imagine just slumped inside a stinking wheelie bin a green wheelie bin yeah imagine um imagine the pride you'd feel as a father yeah I mean it's a little I think there's a little bit
Starting point is 00:07:49 of actual pride well you know at least they've got some good he's got some good friends who put him in a bin and wheel him home it's what Bear Grylls taught us using the environment to help ourselves yeah I don't mind it at least they brought him home they could have just left him there yeah exactly i remember that night i remember seeing him from
Starting point is 00:08:08 the other side of the pub at the bar just necking shots and thinking what are you doing what are you doing it's christmas eve for crying out yeah you're ruining christmas and christmas day is a great day if you're not really fucking hungover yes you've got to do anything like there's no no it's what it's the one time of the year probably where no one expects anything from anything well especially when you're young as well i mean if you're if you're older you've got you know cook the dinner and stuff like that but yeah it's uh that's bloody hilarious yeah um all right so i've got so last show you kind of i think you were kind of feeling like my things that happened in 2022 were a little bit quaint and yes the reason they were little bit quaint. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:46 The reason they were a bit quaint, I think, is because I really tried to not pick out things that were... Because, you know, a lot of news is bad news, right? Yes, that's true. So I just tried to avoid that and obviously ran out of steam at the end with Liz Truss. But I'm not going to do that today. I'm going to just do the ones that I think are the most interesting. So first one up, I'm not going to ask you to pick a number
Starting point is 00:09:05 because I didn't make a note of the numbers you picked last time and I can't remember what they are. So first up, Pete, here's some more interesting stuff that happened in 2022. Apple became the first company to reach a stock market value
Starting point is 00:09:17 of $3 trillion. Okay. How did they do that then? I thought they'd lost a lot of money on the old Epic, you know Epic competitive. Well, here we go. In January, they briefly hit $3 trillion.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Right, okay. And in 2018, they hit $1 trillion. In 2020, they hit $2 trillion. I don't know what it is at time of recording, but for a very short period of time, at the start of this year, they hit $3 trillion, which i think is an unfathomable amount of money to be perfectly honest it's too much and you never know how much
Starting point is 00:09:52 is you know could they go out and buy a three trillion dollar car i don't think so they should it's not liquid enough they should do that they definitely should do that they they should just somebody should like have like an old banger right uh on a four car and they should just sort of go right this is the world's first three trillion dollar car no one's gonna buy it no one cares but you just declare that you are unwilling to part ways with this uh three trillion dollar car um it'd have to be a small font to get all the zeros on the window it would yeah exactly you'd have to put some in the back but it'd be really funny because obviously what's the most expensive car a couple of million like this probably more
Starting point is 00:10:35 than that i reckon it's probably 20 million probably yeah okay so and that would be a second-hand car you know from from well you know second car a car from like the 50s or something that's been beautifully restored etc etc you know absolute primo condition but like do you know where's the first where's the first you know when's the where's the first trillion or billion dollar car you just sort of say well this this car i'm unwilling to sell it for anything less i'll do it to my car right my fiat 500 duologic to with Bluetooth. Change the name of it from the Fiat 500 to the Fiat 3 Trillion. I am unwilling to let it go for anything less than £3 million. Is that all right?
Starting point is 00:11:15 Million? Sorry, billion. Three billion. No, it's trillion. First three billion. Okay, the first $3 trillion car. Pete, do you know what it makes me think of this? It makes me think, what's the point of this?
Starting point is 00:11:29 Right. Not the show, the $3 trillion thing. So, for example, I understand, you know, at a very basic level, have a successful business, do what you need to do, make a lot of value for your shareholders, have a lot of happy customers and all that kind of stuff, right? When it gets to, like, $3 trillion, does no one at Apple gets like three trillion does no one apple just go where are we going with this what's the point what's the point of this like we're already wealthier than every country so this is like a game where
Starting point is 00:11:56 we've won the game but now we've rendered the game almost like totally pointless because as you've rightly pointed out what is the point of having three having a market value of three trillion like what does it mean to me i mean well you just start looking at the the um the the expensive car catalog uh and you see my fiat 500 in the back that's what i'm saying baby hmm i mean nothing's worth that amount so nothing's worth even like a million when it comes to cars. So, you know, maybe we can be the first guys to own the $3 trillion car. You're having real trouble with this. You're such a socialist that you can't even say $3 trillion.
Starting point is 00:12:40 You say nothing's worth a million. I mean, it's about collectability as well, though, right? So there was that guy, wasn't there, who had the original unboxed original Super Mario Bros. game that had never been opened. It was the only one left or something. He wanted like three million for that. Yeah, but I mean, you can ask for it, can't you?
Starting point is 00:12:59 You're not going to get it. In the same way that my $3 trillion car, no one's ever going to buy that, are they? What do you think about, I say, a really valuable like Jackson Pollock or Van Gogh that goes for like 150 million? Yeah, but I mean, at least... Well, no, I mean, nothing's worth that amount of money,
Starting point is 00:13:16 but it is... You're not only... You're taking stewardship of the history of it, I suppose, as well, aren't you? And it's the only one that has ever existed and can ever exist, right? Yeah. By definition.
Starting point is 00:13:28 So I guess it's about the value that the person buying it ascribes to it. Anyway, here's some more great news. In March, microplastics were detected for the first time in human blood. Oh, good stuff. So a study published showed about half the participants in the study had polyethylene terephthalate,
Starting point is 00:13:51 a polymer used in water bottles and food packaging, in their bloodstream. Scientists had previously established that people are exposed to microscopic particles of plastic through the food they eat, the water they drink, and, pleasingly, the air they breathe. But do you think that it that really matters like everyone's getting very excited about it but it's like there's probably a lot of stuff that you know it's not ideal though is it at the end it's just carbon isn't it it's
Starting point is 00:14:17 not ideal though did you say it's ideal you happy are you happy with it no i'm not happy with it but i mean i guess then there must be other man-made substances that finds their way into our bloodstream, like through the food we eat and stuff, like, you know, that aren't, you know, your microplastics. I mean, like... Iron.
Starting point is 00:14:36 You can't, you know, you can't break that down very easily. Well, the human body needs iron, doesn't it? Yeah, but you never know, we might evolve to really need microplastics. I'm looking for the microplastic revolution. Plastic manufacturers are going to be buzzing you. The fucking phone's going to be ringing off the hook
Starting point is 00:14:52 with a PI. I'll be down in Sainsbury's. I'll be like, I forgot my fucking bag for life. Testicles, out. Just can't put all my supermarket stuff in the testicles. Reusable. Lovely. Reusable. Lovely.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Reusable. Reusable, exactly. Jive is 30p for this, you cunts. It's my own ball bag. So what you're saying is the level of microplastics becomes problematic when you pull your pants down when you're about to get in the shower and you see every little helps on your nutsack. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:15:24 That's when it goes too far yeah that's that's a tattoo i've got down there anyway to be honest it's interesting for conspiracy theorists though because i remember microplastics being like a bit of a conspiracy theory back in the day and now it's proven to be the case didn't exist well no people just saying that you know oh well why do you care what the government say because they're pumping microplastics into your brain oh and now microplastics are proven to exist. This is where the conspiracy theory thing becomes a real issue because some of them occasionally
Starting point is 00:15:51 come out to be like half true and that's what sustains the whole thing. Yeah. And I guess I'd be a little bit annoyed. I'd be a little bit annoyed if we suddenly realised that chemtrails exist. Yeah, that'd be the worst one for you, would it? That would be the one that would upset me the most, I think, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I think you're pretty safe on that front. I think it's more stuff like people saying back in the day, the CIA are doing medical experiments with LSD on people. Turns out they were. Yeah, that's true. So sometimes the stuff does prove itself to be at least partly true and i'm not saying that you know that all of them do or anything like that but that's what sustains people isn't it they go because they can always point to something and go to one that
Starting point is 00:16:33 actually was true yeah uh here's some more good news in mid-march um a gigantic ice shelf collapsed in east antarctica yeah i mean that that's been happening for a while the old ice shelves in it guess how big this shelf was that collapsed and i don't think people fully grasp it enough so i really do want to make this very clear guess how big a mile pardon third of a mile a third of a mile he says that'll be big wouldn't it that would be big that would be like a square a third of a square mile, basically. Sizable, yeah. Yeah. 450 square miles. Fucking hell. Square miles as well? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Good God. Yeah, I think it happened decades quicker than expected because it was being monitored. Yeah. And it's the first time that's happened at that level since satellites started monitoring activity there, which was in 1979. So, yeah, the great thing about it was the kicker is that this is apparently the area of Antarctica that scientists believe to be least vulnerable to the effects of climate change. Do you not think that would create like a massive tidal wave somewhere?
Starting point is 00:17:44 That seems really chunky. Yeah, I mean, presumably yes, but I mean, I think the vast sort of areas we're talking about, I suppose, in the ocean generally, maybe negate that happening. But it's not, I mean, it's not fucking ideal, is it? That's a big old space.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Yeah. It's basically, just try and give you like a comparison. that's a big old space. Yeah. It's basically... Just trying to give you a comparison. It's about a 25th as big as Belgium. Could you not find something that's smaller? Could you just... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Okay, right. Let me just try and think. It's basically... It's 95 times bigger than London's Heathrow Airport. Does that help? these are quite weird ones why have they given us those kind of comparisons just give me something that's the same size please I can't find anything, it's a lot though
Starting point is 00:18:33 it's a lot if you basically 450 square miles if you said to me I've got a new place I bought a bit of land how much, 450 square miles I'd be impressed by that and that's really weird yeah until I said it was an ice shelf and bought a bit of land, how much? 450 square miles. I'd be impressed by that.
Starting point is 00:18:47 And that's really... Yeah, until I said it was an ice shelf. But don't worry, Luke. It's in an area of Antarctica that is least vulnerable to climate change. Yeah. Well, because none of it's left now, presumably. None of it's left now. It's in the sea. It's intact.
Starting point is 00:19:02 It's just in the sea. Yeah. Look, before we go to a break um because we're way overdue i just want to add this one in there as well um for the first time in august according to a gallup poll more americans are now smoking marijuana than cigarettes is that good i don't know really i don't know how to feel about it. I saw a Japanese man, a Japanese man who doesn't ever partake in the old weed. He'd had a couple of drinks and stuff,
Starting point is 00:19:34 and someone I knew was smoking like a resin, like a, what do you call it, a vape with like some some weed resin weed it's three times the size of the Isle of Wight better see I can understand that I've got there in the end
Starting point is 00:19:51 good not good is it it's not good though is it lovely old job lovely yeah he had a little weed thing
Starting point is 00:19:58 and the Japanese man went give me a go on that and he went and then he projectile vomited so I just think for some people it's not an alternative for booze no and then the bouncer actually then the bouncer came out and went um here watch this and and the guy was fucked and watch this and he poured just cold water on his head and down the back of his um shirt and like fucking he just woke up like what like a style like a plant yeah he just needs a
Starting point is 00:20:27 bit of water yeah that's amazing what a great what a great um what a great kind of remedy if you if you ever need to wipe wipe someone up you know as you wake someone up just pour just pour water down their back they don't tend to like it today there's loads of videos a lot of people get water chucked in their face one of my favorite type of videos on the internet is a pissed man having water poured over him by other pissed men getting up so he's gonna punch them all and then falling over again because he's still pissed that's a great genre video in my view but um yeah definitely on the um on the marijuana and cigarette thing so it's partly to do with the fact that um cigarette smoking in the u.s has declined a great deal, right? Yeah. So in the 50s, 45% of Americans roughly smoked, adults.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Right, okay. Which is an astonishing number. And now it's down to about 12.5%, which is quite interesting because America generally aren't huge on public information campaigns and health campaigns and stuff. They don't tend to do that kind of stuff. Whereas in the UK, I know that the public information campaigns and health campaigns and stuff they don't tend to do that kind of stuff whereas in the uk i know that the public information health campaign to reduce smoking
Starting point is 00:21:29 in this country is seen as one of the great examples of um the education and help of a population by the by government because i think the and so the government's i think possibly the labor government at the time got the numbers down from way up there to down to about six or seven percent now and they always sort of they always kind of parrot that as being a great example of public health but actually what's interesting is i don't believe america has done that but it's still declined from 45 down to um like whatever it is now um 12 and a half percent now so it's kind of interesting that people are generally choosing to not do it anyway, I guess just because of the information
Starting point is 00:22:07 they've got available to them. And then because marijuana has been legalised, it naturally is going to jump up. So it's kind of a bit of an anomaly, but it's still quite an interesting development, I think. Is it not just kind of like Americans probably saw, because I guess their media is a bit more focused on looking good and being healthy and stuff like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:31 The proliferation of like health food shops and really healthy shakes and stuff. I don't know. And then you're smoking a bifter. Not a bifter. Smoking a non-bifter-y bifter. A bong. Yeah. smoking a bifter, not a bifter, smoking a non-bifter-y bifter. A bong. Yeah, so I think that's really interesting because ironically, of course, one of the most successful marketing campaigns ever is the Marlborough Man, right?
Starting point is 00:22:52 Yes. Who's seen as this definitive example of what an American man should be and he would always smoke Marlboroughs. And you can picture him now, even though you never grew up in America, you never smoked Marlboroughs, you know exactly what I'm talking about um and then you have all that controversy to say the least in in the intervening years of of um the tobacco companies trying to kind of wriggle out of their responsibilities and all the stuff like that so it's got an interesting kind of thing um i think i wonder if britain will follow the us's example in legalizing marijuana which of
Starting point is 00:23:21 course is done at a state level in the us it's's not done federally, so it depends on where you are, but it seems to be going that way, doesn't it? Yeah, it certainly does. Shall we hit an ad break? Let's do it. We've got some battery brands, the last one of 2022. Let's do it. Lovely.
Starting point is 00:23:37 We're back with a look at Pete Shaw, and we're back with the final gaze upon some of the very best and most unique battery brands uh in in the world uh pretty much for 2022 this will be our final uh battery brand collection uh and uh we've got one from matt uh hello the luke and pete i found some new batteries at work and don't recall hearing the name before they are double a, 100% peak powers, apparently, which I'm fairly certain was an Andre the Giant tag team
Starting point is 00:24:09 from the 80s. Peak powers. Cheap crap, probably from Amazon. I love the show. Currently re-listing from the start when I run out of new pods to hear. It's all ad revenue. That's true, actually.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Yeah, you can listen to old ones, and it helps us just as much as the new ones. All the best, lads, and keep up with the great work Matthew 100% peak powers sounds like crap are they any good? Yeah 100% peak powers never seen them before no one's sent them in before very very interesting new
Starting point is 00:24:36 player to the game just got a big orange 100% symbol on the side of them great to see congratulations Matt on a new player what a great way to end the year. Fantastic stuff. Maybe we'll get a threeer. Maybe we'll get one of those rare threeers we've been hearing so much about.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Chris says, Hello, Luke and Pete. While checking out my local Catalan supermarket, I noticed what I hope to be some new players in the battery game. Segasa Super Alkaline. Segasa Super Alkaline. Why are you saying it like that? What do you mean? Well, that's how they'd say it in Catalan, wouldn't they? Oh, yeah, maybe. Segasa Mi Casa Segasa Super Alkaline. Why are you saying it like that? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Well, that's how they'd say it in Catalan, wouldn't they? Oh, yeah, maybe. Segasa, mi casa, segasa. Super Alkaline. For those of you looking out and listening out for a famous hat trick to end the year, I'm afraid I have to disappoint you because these have been sent in by Chris for the second time. Our friend Dan sent them in at the start of August.
Starting point is 00:25:25 So that's the second time we've had them, which makes them officially not a new player. Sorry about that, Chris. That's a real shame. That is a real shame. Finally for now, Michael. Hello from Seattle. Yep, the gum wall place.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Could such a simple name be a new player? They came with a new purchase of a professional digital pocket scale. Large, super heavy duty. Keep the good work, Michael. Large, super heavy duty from your friend and mine, the digital scale. No, so, I mean, large have been sent in a very, very huge, just a huge number of times in the past. Larger ones we've seen.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I mean, even you would remember those, Pete, and your memory's shot to bits. That's true. So they're not new players, I'm afraid. So thank you very much for sending them in, past. Larger ones we've seen. Even you would remember those, Pete, and your memory's shot to bits. That's true. They're not new players, I'm afraid. Thank you very much for sending them in, Michael, but they're not new players. Only one out of three this time around. Absolute shame, that. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Better luck next time, guys. And better luck next time for 2023. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, why not? Don't let it deter you. Keep them coming in. You never know what you'll find. Damn right. Shall we do a couple more highlights of 2022 before going on to what we were looking forward to in 2023 and then we can get out of here, Peter?
Starting point is 00:26:33 All right, then. Well, let's do one of those and then we'll do 2023 and then we'll get out. Okay, what about in September, NASA smashed a spacecraft into an asteroid in a planetary defence test? Yeah. That was good, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:26:47 I mean, that was sexy. You know, if you want me to sort of stand up and take notice of the old NASA news, it's inexplicably something like that, really. I mean, a few days ago, we had one where there was like a NASA Mars rover part two sort of thing that uh it's kind of like um oh yeah i saw this yeah it was like so it's a thing this is a it's a it's a um a bit of uh instrumentation uh that's been sitting on mars for a long time
Starting point is 00:27:20 and every time uh every time these things die nasa write these kind of very poetic final messages from the uh mars uh equipment basically signing off because you know for whatever reason energy is low um the the soil the the ammonia in the soil has attacked uh the the bits and bobs inside these these little electric creatures um and this this guy this guy this bit of uh equipment on mars sent one final picture from there uh and said my power is really low so this may be the last image i can send don't worry about me though my time here has been both productive and serene if i can keep talking to my mission team i will but i'll be signing off here soon thanks for staying with me i don't know why they have to make me feel like this about
Starting point is 00:28:06 a bit of tech that's you know just left on the servers of Mars. The weird thing is if you're sat in mission control it's probably the gigs are next to you is writing that message. Yes that's true yeah yeah it's a bit kinky I don't like it. There's no one up there doing it No exactly. He's pretending
Starting point is 00:28:21 to be that. Yeah he's basically LARPing as a as a bit of but it is poetic isn't it and isn't it a really interesting example of whether human beings can feel something emotional for machines yeah i mean very much yes in my case yeah i mean you are part machine though right so i mean but but i think and it's also it also raises an interesting point around the idea that whenever we're looking for uf or whatever, or we're looking for alien life, people, as far as I know, aren't really looking for mechanical machinery, right? Which is basically what they should be looking for, because that's the first thing we do. What?
Starting point is 00:28:57 We look for... Probes, satellites, rovers. Yeah, that's true. Human beings aren't on Mars. Human beings aren't out beyond the solar system, because they can't be, right? So it's going to be the artefacts of... Avi Loeb, who's like a very famous, I think Harvard-based scientist,
Starting point is 00:29:12 planetary scientist and cosmologist, says that, you know, that's what we should be looking for. The first evidence you'll see will be of things left behind by civilizations because those things last a lot longer. It's not organic material, right? So it'd be interesting
Starting point is 00:29:26 if like an alien civilization did arrive on Mars saw that little rover said what the fuck is that don't do anything how'd that get here you know so yeah
Starting point is 00:29:35 who's leaving their crap space crap around yeah well it's space junk Peter isn't it space junk space junk and this show is space junk
Starting point is 00:29:42 and for that reason we're going to end it we're not going to do what we're looking forward to 2023, because I just remember Rory asked us to do that for the first show of 2023, which is coming on Monday. So we'll do that instead. We'll wrap up here.
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Starting point is 00:30:37 in the future for you guys to enjoy as well. That's it from me. Peter, anything for you to add? No, that made me quite emotional. Happy New Year, everyone. We'll see you very soon. As emotional as the Mars driver or not? that's it from me Peter anything for you to add no that made me quite emotional happy new year everyone we'll see you very soon
Starting point is 00:30:47 as emotional as the Mars Rival or not similar yeah a little bit the luke and pete show is a stack production and part of the acast creator network

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