The Luke and Pete Show - The Grand Central Terminal man cave

Episode Date: October 1, 2020

On today’s episode, Pete talks about a group of railway workers who got caught red handed making a man cave at work. Meanwhile, Luke explains why he’s reluctant to use a Kindle and we celebrate the news about dogs with the ability to detect covid. Also on the show, we explain the concept of meat raffles and reminisce about the classic noughties documentary ‘Britain’s Toughest Pub’. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

all right it's the luke and peach show welcome everybody it's a thursday so i do hope you're keeping well whatever you might happen to be doing on a thursday well done for doing that thing or not doing that thing maybe you're abstaining from something important like lifelong alcoholism or drug abuse um good on you for not doing that anymore. But if you are indulging in a bit of drug abuse or drinking, if you're enjoying it, carry on. It's fine. It's Luke's here. You all right, mate?

I'm rusty. I've been away for a week. I don't know what's going on. I think while overall the decision to replace Pete Donaldson with a Pete Donaldson algorithm has gone well, it occasionally does backfire like that intro. And what I would say is, yeah, I need to tweak it a little bit. What I would say is there is a very fine line between use and abuse.

So be careful. I've said it before, I've won less until it's not a problem. I've won baggy. I've won a little balloon of heroin less until it's not a problem. I think I think... I've won baggy. I've won a little balloon of heroin less until it's not a problem. I think Pete has gone from being a user of a Luke and Pete show to now an abuser of the Luke and Pete show. And we all saw it coming, but we're all still shocked and disappointed that it has come to pass, yeah.

Recording from my little cave. Oh, did you see the man cave in the Grand Central Terminal in New York, right? The New York City Metropolitan Transportation Authority. Yeah. They suspended three or four, I'm going to say, it's going to be blokes in it, railway workers. They built their own little secret man cave in an old storage room, in an old cupboard under in an old cupboard yeah under the grand central terminal

they made a little break room with um a tv a futon a refrigerator a microwave an air mattress um had all of these things in a little they made a little man cave for themselves what's wrong with that and well uh the none of the um microwave or the television are checked by any independent authorities, so they may start a fire and kill a lot of people. Okay, what's wrong with it apart from that? And also the three specific employees would hang out and get a drunken party.

Well, they're supposed to be working. Just three blokes having a great time, pretty much, yeah. Pete, I'm sorry, mate. I have many, many things, and I've got many, many flaws, most of which you've laid bare on this show and that's fair enough but i am not a hypocrite so for that reason i will not be criticizing these men well the fire brigade said that uh i love the quote the fire brigade brigade considered an unmapped room for which no one appears to have the key

very dangerous no one has the key how does anyone get in there no one has the good point well some people has the key can i just say um i worked at a supermarket for several years and i had some exploits not quite as involved as that but i did have a couple of good brags which i i was able to to successfully kind of carry out one was um building so basically that at the back of the supermarket they didn't have enough space for which I was able to successfully kind of carry out. One was building. So basically, at the back of the supermarket, they didn't have enough space for all the stock in the warehouse because I think it was in the 90s,

so it might not have been quite just-in-time production, which is kind of, you know, they basically stock a lot of stock out back. So they bought these two big shipping containers, right? And so over a period of of time me and this guy called dave who's a bit older than me um who is now i think a marine biologist he's done very well for himself but anyway then he was kind of working full-time at a supermarket as was i um we over a period of time pete took um a couple of big packs of toilet roll each into this shipping container until we could build up a massive

kind of almost like double um kind of bed thing of of toilet roll it sounds gay it's not gay uh and and um and we um we used to lie down on it for breaks when we had hangovers and every time someone walked past me mommy and daddy special cuddles yeah we used to every time someone walked past we used to shout out random numbers like we were doing a stock take and no one ever stopped us and and secondly i uh i'm not entirely proud of this one but at one of the supermarkets i worked at it was massive and um no one really knew no one really kept tabs on you because the shop was so big and my job was generally just to fill up um the shelves with replenish the shelves yeah and

had a really bad hangover one day on a sunday and my shift was 10 till 4 so i came in at 10 hung up my jacket put my badge on went out onto the shop floor said hello to the manager uh and then went home again, came back at about half three and did half an hour at the end, and no one noticed. So I can't criticize these guys, can I? No. And, yeah, I would – what's the – is the marine biologist friend of yours now making little caves for himself like yeah hiding in a big shell

underneath underneath you know those big like massive shells that uh mermaids live in probably um and yeah those he always he does have he does permanently have scallops on his tits yeah okay i understand very interesting did you did somebody you can you can seriously surely you can't find it within yourself to criticise these guys at the subway for doing this? Oh, it's very creative. I mean, the fact that they've – I think the thing that will have made the authorities – they'd be most offended by it,

the fact that they not only had a television in there, they'd affixed a visa bracket to the wall to put the television onto the wall, which I think is disrespectful. How are they getting a signal? Good point. I think it's just Netflix, mate. I think it's just maybe pre-recorded Netflix,

a bit of Wi-Fi, I don't know. But they've done it out lovely, that's what you said, done it out lovely. I'll have a look at that later. By the way, have you seen that since you were away, I've launched my own political party? Oh, have you? Good, all right.

You're going to raise your tax returns? To reclaim, apparently to reclaim British values. Right, okay, yeah. Oh, is this the lookalike? Lawrence Fox. What's he up to now? He's started a political party. He says that

politicians have lost touch with the people and he wants to reclaim British values, so he's starting his own political party. Now when he says that the political class have lost touch with the people i'm sure there's merit in that argument what i like is that he thinks that he's the person to repair that and that he's he's claimed that he's received five5 million in funding so far, which to me is a stretch because in five minutes I was able to look at his Patreon and see that he only had 179 Patreons. So I'm not sure that if only 179 people

are going to pay for a Lawrence Fox mug and early access to some of his singer-songwriter compositions, I don't know £5 million worth are going to think about his political views and that he's the man to save the country politically. I'm just putting it out there. No, I'd never seen that guy act until I watched, it was like an edition of some kind of like ITV procedural detective drama.

Yeah, wasn't it Morse, like Lewis or something like that? Morse, yes. It's Lewis, I think, which is the follow-up to Morse. Is it? Was he Lewis? I don't know but either way it was uh yeah i watched i watched i watched a bit of that and i'd never really seen him act before and he i mean very ordinary i was like i thought he was this kind of great hollywood

kind of star but no just just very very ordinary very ordinary chap he also he also famously said um that i mean the thing about this right all these people who kind of do this type of thing whether it be you know your tommy robinson's or whoever it may be right they've got they've got in my view they've got appalling views and they're abhorrent and all the rest of it why are they always so stupid like i think the thing about it is one of the things about i think one of the things about a hallmark of someone who's clever is they don't pretend to know the stuff they don't know right so i would fall found that you and i probably aren't clever because we talk shit about stuff all the time clever people know what they know and they just say they don't know about the stuff

and they're not insecure about it right lawrence fox who wants to run a political party that in his own image and his own words is to reclaim the politics for british people has also said in his opinion it was odd in quotes to show a Sikh soldier in a first world war film despite the fact that 130 000 Sikhs were in the british army during the war so he's not even done the basic of most basic of research. Give it a Google. I mean, just type Turban War. Like, just anything. Just do... Just do... Just have a cursory glance so nobody laughs at you.

Because he had to apologise then, didn't he? He had to actually apologise for the stupid thing that he just said. It's just like, you're ridiculous. You're a ridiculous man. I'd vote for you, Donny. I'd vote for your political life. Cheers, mate. know marcus rashford like did all that stuff for kids getting their um school meals you could do that but it would just be frozen sausages wires it'd be everyone gets a usb if it gets a usb port behind their ear everyone's get everyone gets a micro usb uh device yeah did you see that guy did um one of the stories you put we probably missed

um last week i don't know whether you guys touched on it so i had limited time to listen to all of the stakhanov uh stable um police in vietnam uh picking up that person who'd um who had something like quarter of a million over a quarter of a million used condoms oh yeah this this broke after that we haven't covered it tell me about it um. Yeah, basically, police in Vietnam broke up a criminal ring that it basically collected used condoms, rinsed them, and then resold them. That is not what you want to hear. That is not what you want to hear.

How do you re-roll them up? You, well, you boil them in water. According to the woman who was detained, you boil them in water and then you dry them out and then you reshape them on a wooden phallus. And then off you go. I mean, it seems like a lot. It's like when they found like some really cheap Chinese kind of rural areas in the little villages,

people were selling fake eggs. What? And so people would be making out of this plastic. We spoke about this before on the show, I'm sure. But it's not a long egg, but a fake egg, like these eggs that are made of proteins or plastics, and they kind of acted like an egg. And it's like, just fucking get an egg. Yeah.

It just seems like to fashion an ovum or whatever and a shell and all that stuff and then make it look like an egg and put it in an egg box. Just get a fucking hen. I worry about the overheads. I'm pretty sure you can buy a chicken. I'm pretty sure you can buy a hen for like a quid.

Yeah, or less. I mean, presumably at scale. But yeah, I'm fascinated by- And they'll make loads of eggs. The thought processes. They do. Teach your man to fish and all that business. Very strange.

Do you think it's weird, though, that if you were to- So, for example, if you were to type into the Google, buy chicken, you'd probably get several other stuff, which would be like chicken breasts or chicken thighs so you could buy them and eat them, right? If you were to type buy chickens, you'd get live chickens, wouldn't you? Isn't that quite a weird quirk of language? Is it? I don't know.

I mean, it's just how we say chicken versus chickens. No, but if you wanted to buy chicken to cook in a curry tonight, what would you type into Google if you had to buy it off the internet? You'd type chicken, wouldn't you? Why would I type it into Google? I mean, who types chicken into Google? Chicken the food, chickens the being. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

It's just a weird thing. How come the plural of it is the live version of it? It doesn't make any sense. I'm fairly certain that, again, the Chinese, their word for meat is just pork because they eat so much pork. Oh, really? Might be wide on that one, but I'm fairly certain I read that somewhere. And I think last year, something like a third of all of their pigs

died of this swine flu. And no one really talks about it because obviously, you know, there's trade embargoes and obviously COVID has overtaken it. But the biggest, you know, it's their main meat. It's their main meat. It's their main meat. There's their main meat. I think a third of them all died of this horrible

swine flu. Get well soon, pigs. They can't get well soon, they're dead, can they? In many ways, that's what they've been bred to do, to die so people can eat them. Exactly. That was very much their sad destiny. Speaking of China, I've just finished reading the book.

Well, actually, I finished reading it a couple of weeks ago. Do you remember I told you, I might not have told you on the show, I was reading a book by Patrick Radden Keefe called Say Nothing about Northern Ireland. Oh, right, yeah. And it's really interesting. It's like the story of the troubles through a couple of different families. And it was really interesting it's like the story of the the troubles through like a couple of different families and it was really interesting so i carried on because what happened

was i i listened to wind of change which is a podcast series he presented which is brilliant so exactly um i know what you mean um and then i read so then i found this book say nothing which i think won a couple of awards which is really um really interesting and then i read a book of his called the snakehead which is about um the um the kind of it's not trafficking because they they they the people involved wanted to do it it's like human um basically it's like illegal immigration of chinese people to america throughout thes and 90s, and how it was done by these people called Snakeheads, who were these organizers in places like Chinatown, New York City, who would organize for people to travel from China to the US. And it's absolutely fascinating, really, really interesting

what the culture's like and how Chinatown operates and lots of different kind of organised crime involved, but also just people trying to make a new start for themselves and get a better life and all the rest of it. It's honestly really fascinating. It's called The Snakehead by Patrick Braddon-Keefe. I would recommend it if you ever looked at it. Pete, you'd bloody love it.

No, that sounds absolutely fascinating. And are you going to pass it on when you finish? I have finished. Are you reading on your Kindle? No, I don't read on the Kindle. I read on the old paper. The problem I find with the Kindle is you can't show off to people about the books you're reading.

So what's the point of that? Well, just walk up and down the tube carriage waving it around. Yeah, you should do. In massive force. Imagine if someone was doing like a piece for BBC News or something or Sky News and instead of like loads of bookshelves

of like books, you just had one Kindle in the middle of loads of empty bookshelves uh of like books um you just had one kindle in the middle of loads of empty bookshelves all you need mate all you need there's no point tucking a kindle under your wing and walking through central london is it you can't show off doing that but you know what speaking of that i can't quite remember what band it was so i don't want to libel anyone but not that it's probably libelous anyway but i remember being at a night club in a club night in central London, maybe 15 years ago.

Do you remember that club night, Frog? Yes. Was that Camden, Frog? No, it was in, I want to say, I think it was in Mean Fiddler or The Astoria or something. Mean Fiddler, right.

Yeah. And for those who are unaware of Frog, which are probably most of you, in central London, I think it was either, I think it was a Friday night. They would have this night called frog um quite a big venue maybe a thousand people or whatever and it'll be they play like indie music and stuff but at midnight a band would come on and they'd normally be pretty good and you'd never know who it's going to be

right so sometimes the lilies no sometimes it was like a really big band like sometimes it would be like someone big and um i and and a lot of other bands used to go there and i remember seeing a guy from one of those bands around that time i forget who it was now who was very pretentious and was sat in the nightclub at the bar reading like a reading a penguin classic like something like reading Gallon Poe or something. Yeah. And it was just, I remember even at the time

thinking, even for me, that is horrifically pretentious. You've taken, yeah, you've definitely taken a misstep there, haven't you, buddy?

Would work though, but what I'm trying to say, if he was on a Kindle, would it be a different experience? Probably not. He'd still be a bellend, but the point stands. I used to spend a lot of time

in Infinity Club at Madam Jo... Sorry, not Madam Jojo's. It was the thing that would change to it. White Heat. White Heat. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah, I do, yeah.

Madam Jojo's Infinity Club. You used to spend a lot of time following the man who was... He was the drummer at the Pipettes. Oh, Jolene. Yeah, Jolene. And we'd see him every now and again. And the sort of people you think are cool at the time, and we see him every now and again. The sort of people you think are cool at the time,

then you look back and you say, was everyone cool? They probably weren't, weren't they? Nah. That was a very uncool time looking back on it, wasn't it? Yes. Indie landfill, isn't it, mate? Indie landfill.

The lashback starts here. Everything was shit in the noughties. Do people call it a lashback? I'm calling it a lashback. You know, I read know i read something i think it was on vice the other day about 20 landfill indie bands or something and i was genuinely upset about a couple of them i thought there's a couple of them that is poor by you to call them landfill indie you can't say shoes fuck off you can't say the future heads of maximo park fuck off yeah exactly, exactly. Bullshit. Absolute bullshit, yeah. But then everyone shared it, though, didn't they?

And then at the end, someone put it on Spotify, the playlist. You know, Vice won. That writer, he's getting a little bit more in his paycheck this week. They always win, don't they, Vice? At the end of the day, they always win. Unless, of course, it's to do with the treatment of their employees. Let's move on to... No, they still win. Okay, yeah, sorry. They still employees. Let's move on to... No, they still win.

Okay, yeah, sorry. They still win. The employees don't win. No, that's true. Particularly if they're women. If you want to go back to COVID, which I presume you do, Pete, because everything goes back to COVID at the end of the day, have you seen that dogs can now sniff it out?

Oh, so exciting. 99% accuracy? I've read close to 100 accuracy i suppose 99 is close you've exposed my maths yeah incredible this is a couple of little dogs it's denmark isn't it is it denmark finland i think finland yeah all them lot all them lot like imagine what an adorable place that would be where you know dogs just spend all of their time but the problem is i i eat a lot of sausages um as as and you carry a lot of drugs in your pocket so that'll be well tested they can only be trained on one thing at a time so you're either a covid dog or you're a sam i can imagine i can imagine like an obvious like drug trafficker walking through an airport

with dogs around just screaming, I've got COVID! It's COVID! I've got COVID! Oh, deary me. So for those who haven't seen the story, there's a pilot scheme in Helsinki Airport in Finland which has concluded that dogs can identify the virus in seconds using fewer molecules than is used for the test itself

with close to 100% accuracy. Four COVID-19 sniffer dogs begun work at Helsinki Airport in a state-funded pilot scheme. It should hopefully, according to researchers, provide a cheap, fast, and effective alternative method of testing people. It's unreal. I mean, you know, i've heard something about dogs being able to sniff out certain types of diseases in the past but this is an amazing uh amazing

development really isn't it can't it can't like they've been known to sort of smell cancers and stuff like because obviously we sweat um slightly differently when we've got when we've got different things wrong with us but yeah like it it inhibits certain flavours or something. Our sense is incredible. In response to this, my two cats continue, as ever, to do absolutely fuck all. Fuck all, yeah, exactly. I love the fact that dogs will save us all because they're brilliant.

And I just love the fact that they're uh it says inexpensive i think it is going to be quite expensive to get that amount of dogs at that amount of airports in that amount because you if you're using it at airports use it everywhere else yeah but the problem is i think i think yeah that's that's probably true but it depends what level of what kind of what's your cut off here can what i want to know is the detail can any dog do it so if i if my next door neighbor's got a dog can i just get that dog get it to my house do what they're saying here swab something on the back of your neck let the dog sniff it will it bark if i've got covid or do they need to be trained presumably they need to be trained yeah exactly

so it's not really cost effective because you you know, training dogs takes a very long time. No, it will be effective. It's much more effective than working on that. Surely it's much more effective to have a dog do it. Or just have a testing facility. Having a testing facility. You've got to check in, you know, an hour or two hours before your flight anyway. Get a testing facility at the airport and then you're absolutely golden, surely.

Speaking of that, did you also see that a load of people, I think particularly in the Far East, have started taking flights literally to nowhere? Have you seen that? No. So aviation enthusiasts in some parts of the Far East, I believe, possibly Australia as well, are now able to pay to get on a plane fly around for two hours and land back where they started because they miss aviation so much and so they're just doing that yeah i i could see that if that

was a big part of your lifestyle um the the freedom of sort of thing like you you're going somewhere is very uh could it save the aviation industry? Probably not. Probably won't save the fucking planet. No, it won't. That kind of thing, yeah. Fuck me. Imagine that. When the Earth burns up due to climate change and everyone gets to the pearly gates

and God, who is the God of many different worlds all around the universe, says, so how did this planet sort of come to an end? We just took a load of flights landing where we took off from right get out you're not coming in because that is the worst one yet they're like the people who um want to keep their frequent flyer miles or to keep their like premier um status on their particular um flight provider um their particular airplane company they they take flights that they don't need. It's ridiculous.

Yeah, I believe that BA are running a scheme where you can defer any flight you want up until August 2021, the day before you're due to travel because of COVID concerns. So it's kind of a halfway house. You can't get a refund but you can change it up you are they they they sort of you uh i had a flight booked um to japan uh now pretty much obviously that's i've i've i've been known to flirt with it sorry are you gonna are you gonna um complain about some kind of holiday disruption just three hours into the working week, the first day back from holiday?

Is that what you're about to do? That's exactly what I'm about to do. Actually, I was complaining about the fact that B.A. suddenly made it very difficult to contact them. Oh, the status of our staff are very important. So we've brought all of the numbers together into one big number that you ring, and then they say, sorry, we're too busy.

You have to fuck off now. Oh, save us, save us. You did not give a fucking shit three years ago when I was trying to change flights because my wife lived in a different country. So get fucked. We should take a quick break, actually, because we forgot to.

We better do one now. And then when we come back, we'll do some emails. I'll make no apology, Pete, but I'm just really pleased to have you back on the show, actually, because we forgot to. We better do one now. And then when we come back, we'll do some emails. I'll make no apology, Pete, but I'm just really pleased to have you back on the show, mate. Having a good time. Having a good time. Join me, Melissa Reddy, and listen to my brand new podcast, Between the Lines.

Every week, I'll be speaking to the biggest names in football about the captivating, behind-the the scenes stories fans want to hear. From major talking points to untold anecdotes, you'll hear from some of football's leading stars as well as those working in the shadows. In our first episode, I spoke to former Spurs manager Maurizio Pochettino about that Amazon documentary. We feel responsible because it was very difficult to say yes to open the door to Amazon. Only we watched with Jesus the 25 minutes first because it was until we left the club. And on our latest episode,

I investigate how prevalent and damaging social media abuse is in football. And I was like taking all this negativity onto myself. And I did, I kind of lost myself and my personality because I knew everything that was going on around it. And it's not until I actually got to a stage where I thought I can't take this anymore. It is becoming too much for me that I spoke out about it. Craving football insight?

Well, look no further. Listen to Between the the lines with me melissa ready via spotify apple podcast or wherever else you get your podcasts this was a staccato production and we're back it is the luke and peach show if you would like to get in touch with the show and by touch i mean I mean send us an email. It's hello at lukeandpeachshow.com. That's L-U-K-A-N-D-P-E-T-E show.com. No, it's not that. You missed the E off, Luke.

It's hello at lukeandpeachshow.com. Don't spell it out. You just confuse people. Hello, Luke and Pete. Send us a COVID dog. Send us a... Can your dog do something fantastic? Have you built yourself a little cave in your place of work

where you go for a snooze and do terrible things to yourself? Let us know. What terrible things would you do to yourself, Pete? I think we all know. Bryn has got in touch. Bryn, currently listening to the latest episode of The Jim and Luke Show, RIP Pete. Luke casually just used the term meat raffle in conversations

surrounding a pub in Portsmouth. I absolutely need more information for context. I'm a resident of Washington, D.C., and I'm not particularly well-versed in some of the more niche oddities from across the pond. Excuse me. Is this exclusively a British event? Whose meat is being raffled? What sort of animals have met such a bleak demise?

I don't think any animal, you know, their big plan is to just go into meat raffles but what does one pay to enter a meat raffle is there a substantial refrigerator space to carry a meat raffle at a pub or do you win a room temperature disease-ridden hunk of mystery meat i'm led to believe it's grim up north but this is happening on the south coast what sort of raffles are happening in and around hartlepool many fish based to be honest from my perspective uh brim i await your explanation eagerly i'm concerned i might not get any helpful answers by googling meat raffle uh thank you for your attention to this uh matter it's it's just a meat raffle brin yeah i love the way that brin's kind of referring to the uk like it's some kind still living in some kind of medieval era

basically for those of you don't know what a meat raffle is which could be anyone listening outside the uk i suppose is that it's traditional for people to go to the pub on a sunday here or it always was and you have a couple of pints before your sunday lunch or whatever because it'd be a local pub at the end of your street so the meat raffle was literally like a raffle where you buy a ticket and there's lots of different joints of meat you can win and then if you get if you win one of them you get to take it home and cook it for your sunday sunday dinner that's the idea um yeah i thought it was just like you just went some meat because meat's um you know meat's a bit of a premium uh good meat yeah

yeah these days it's hard to find yeah that is true but the pub i'm talking about was specifically it was like oh you know you're gonna have a few pints before your Sunday roast, so why don't you use this amazing piece of meat that you just got for free for your Sunday roast? I suppose there's no real reason you couldn't use it later in the week, apart from possibly, as Bryn's alluded to, some questionable refrigeration techniques. But if it's beef, you want it at room temperature

when you start cooking it anyway, so it doesn't contract and get tough so I've just realised by the way it's been on my mind since I told the story at the beginning that you know that story about the old

toilet rolls and the shipping container and my older male colleague do you think I was being groomed well whose decision was it to make the the little

I think it was all consensual I'm just I just alluded to it at the start that nothing untoward happened untoward happened but it could

I mean I said it wasn't gay listen I didn't think it was gay but I suppose it could have been well to what two boys just bedding down like a little kind of

lying down toilet rolls market based nest no one else around yeah it's a little kind of soft soft little Andrex nest that you've made for yourself

it's supposed to be working it's a little it's a little boy manger little boy manger yeah there was no there was no room kind of soft little Andrex nest that you've made for yourself. It's supposed to be working. It's a little boy manger. Little boy manger. Yeah, there was no room at the warehouse. So the immaculate conception of my Sunday job at that supermarket had to take place outside in a manger. And by manger, I mean shipping container. It's a grim image.

It is, isn't it? Yeah, and speaking of Bryn saying, oh, it's grim up north, I mean image it isn't it yeah and speaking of um brin saying i was grim up north i mean most people would agree with the assessment that portsmouth is almost like a northern town in the south anyway yeah so it kind of does very similar harleypool yeah exactly it does it does it does bear scrutiny um speaking of pubs though um kevin's been in touch who says i don't know we've heard from many kevins over the years. I mean, how old are you, Kevin? Let us know, because I don't think that many people

are called Kevin these days. Hello to Pete and Luke. Hearing Luke's harrowing pool story. This is a story, Pete, about how I was bullied into playing pool in a really rough pub against a man for money when I didn't want to. Kevin says, when he was at uni, living in a less than desirable part of High Wycombe,

I know it well, my housemates and I set out to find a place to watch some football. It was the World Cup playoffs and Ireland were playing France. Yes, that game. I guess he's referring to the Thierry Henry handball. Being Irish, said Kevin, I was intent on witnessing our big moment. I can't remember why, but our usual spots weren't showing the game. So quickly running out of options, we ended up in the White Horse,

one of Britain's premier strip pubs. I know the White Horse well because it does live gigs as well. I used to manage a band that were from High Wycombe, and we went there a few times. The White Horse in Wycombe is famous for a variety of reasons, says Kevin. The Kings of Leon played their first UK gig there and rate it among their favourite ever shows.

Closer to reality, though, it was featured in the classic 2000s-style documentary Britain's Toughest Pubs. That is a great documentary series, that. I've included the link where you can hear the landlord, Paul, showcasing his pride and joy. including his perverted dog uh the bathroom facilities including an invisible toilet seat and invisible toilet rolls thoughtfully installed for the loyal clientele the only tv in the place was effectively a bench against a wall with the screen on either side of the room with a pool table in between settling into a

nervous game only one goal down from the first leg i watched a game of gritted teeth and an overpowering anxiety island took the lead in the first half ratcheting up the tension but deep into the second half a sinewy tattooed figure made his way over to us and after a few minutes of extremely awkward conversation he insisted one of us play pool with him all of us ignored his request but undeterred he walked up to me jabbed me in the chest and said give me a fucking game of pool paddy um naturally naturally i complied he had no coins so of course i paid i would fall i was forced to play while thierry henry handled france into the world cup any delay in taking my shots when the shot went close,

any inclination I wasn't trying or a sign of discontent were met with rough warnings to crack on and concentrate. That will go down as one of the most depressing nights of my life

from start to finish and absolute misery. A quick Google seems to indicate the white horse is still going strong. I can only hope generations of students

have had similar formative experiences in one of Britain's national treasures. Love the show. A big fan of Stakhanov's Stay Booth podcast. Kevin. Absolutely chilling from start to finish that one. Just the, is this going to go south?

We'll have to fight somebody. I don't even want to watch pool. And also my football team playing. It's just, just terrific. I've never once experienced the atmosphere of tension and aggressiveness and machismo that you get in most provincial pubs, or you used to at least, on a weekend night. You don't really get that in London, do you?

There's a few pubs around Wembley where, but that is Wembley. It's way out there. Yeah. Yeah, so people's around Wembley where, but that is Wembley. It's way out there. Yeah. Yeah, people's at Wembley. Holloway Road used to be a bit spicy. Yeah, but I don't think it's,

I agree, I used to spend a bit of time on Holloway Road, but I don't think it's the same way. I think there's something about a provincial town. I don't mean to be dismissive or patronising about it. I spent the first 24 years of my life in such a town and used to go to the pubs all the time. I'm not saying I'm above it or whatever.

I'm just saying the tension and the atmosphere that you tend to get used to when you don't know any different doesn't appear to exist as consistently in pubs in London for some reason. No, because – well, I think because a lot of people in London, a lot of naughty boys go around tooled up. So if there are certain people – You're not the biggest fish in the pond, basically, when you're in London. Well, certainly in my hometown, if you're

in a rough pub, if you're in any pub in Hollywood, there are certain people on a Friday or a Saturday night, their evening isn't complete until they've had a fight, a kebab, and a load of drink. And that is their night. You know, they're up for it. They're doing

coke. They want to fight. Yeah. And that's kind of their thing. But in London, in the inner cities, in your big Birmingham's and your Manchester's, you might run into someone who's a little bit more stabby than you are. You just wanted a fight. They wanted a little stab, stab, and you're in trouble.

That's how we met, isn't it? You and I. Yeah. I brought a gun to an A-fight. Came for a shootout. Came for a shootout. Alright, Pete, I think that's about as much as we've got time for this week. I know, right?

I hope people have a lovely... Time flies when you're having fun. I hope people have a lovely weekend. Lovely. We'll be back on Monday, of course. Do stay locked on to the Luke and Pete show, as people used to say in 90s radio shows. Hello at LukeandPeteShow.com is the email address. Subscribe to

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