The Luke and Pete Show - The Happy Promptman

Episode Date: February 16, 2026

On the agenda today: Maxïmo Park, tight trousers and the appendages they disguise (or don’t disguise) and the astonishing number of famous people produced by one small Scottish town.Plus, we have a... look at a beautiful radio owned by Luke’s grandad and find out what Pete’s father makes of AI.Send us your latest stories, questions and comments here: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I've got nothing in... There's nothing wrong with an umlau. Nothing on with an umlau. You must live your life in such a frightened manner. I just don't want an umlau in my Maximo Park band names. They're not called Uber Sternfure. I call Maximo Power. Ah!
Starting point is 00:00:21 Oh, good band. Good band. The course is always changing. The night I lost my head. I am long and I am lost. Every sentence has its cost. I mean, I guess he was involved in old, uh, Brewist,
Starting point is 00:00:34 and field music and all then, but he was... Future heads as well. Yeah, I feel like they were... I feel like he was... They were a classic... Not a class of part, but they were...
Starting point is 00:00:43 Brilliant. He was a very different set up, I would say, Maximo Park. Oh, we're recording already? We are reading already, yeah. Sorry, I didn't know it's Peter. I'm not as professional as you. That's all right.
Starting point is 00:00:49 In that one specific area. Well, you just missed us singing to Maximal Park there, I would say. Did you catch it, Bruno or not? Did he sing in? No, Bruno's fucked it. He's had audition errors all morning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:02 It's very grand the name, Adobe audition. To explain to people what audition errors means. Adobe Audition is the very expensive software we used to recall. Software as a service? Software as a service. Adobe. Used to be able to buy crack versions of Photoshop and After Effects, and they were a bit janky, something's their crash.
Starting point is 00:01:18 But now you get one that also are a bit janky and they crash. But you pay $250 a month for them. So disgusting. When they give you errors? I'm not allowed after effects. Can't afford it? Well, yeah. Is it because we can't afford it?
Starting point is 00:01:31 Well, we can't afford it. But you can't justify the... I just kind of just to justify the cost. Fine. I just want what we need is a virtual. I'll tell you how that went. You spoke to the person who makes those decisions and you, I promise you this. And he went.
Starting point is 00:01:43 No, you went, can I have Adobe After Effects, please? And he said, what's it for? And you probably said something like, I just want to learn it or on a muckabout on it or something like that. No, after effect I do actually use quite a lot. But for the greater good, one of my rare bits of altruism, I decided to take a step back and go, you know what? It's a nice to have, but it's not necessary for my weekly. work. That said, or I think I will be asking for it. So you and altruism is quite interesting because
Starting point is 00:02:11 you are a very generous person. But when it comes to, well, no, you are, but you rarely do things for the greater good. Right. So what I mean by that is if I said to you, if I came in this morning and said, Pete, in fact, I did kind of do this. I won't go into detail because it wouldn't be appropriate. But I did come to your while ago and say, Pete,
Starting point is 00:02:32 I need a large amount of, money and I know you've got some money. Can I have it? And you said yes. What part of that is not, that's great. What part of that is not very specific? No, but I'm just about the amount. Right. The amounts, right. And what it was for, all the rest of it. And you were saying, eye watering. And you didn't, I mean, you didn't even bleak. You were like, course, mate, no problem. And then, but when it comes to like, for example, I didn't send you a picture my daughter crying, going, where's the food, dada? Yeah. I didn't mind that. Lid it on thick. I didn't care about that. Probably what's spurned you on. No, exactly. I replied, ironically saying,
Starting point is 00:03:04 it's for the greater good. But when it comes to say like altruistic team playing things, like I don't know, maybe looking after your work pass, right? You won't do that. But that is not,
Starting point is 00:03:14 that's just bad admin. That's not, I don't feel like me looking after a work pass. It's a selfishness to it, isn't it? Because people could go, losing a work pass. No, but I think, let me just explain.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Got my work pass. It was someone else's work pass. In a minute we're going to work Maximo Park. Let me just do this, right? There's a selfishness to it because what you can say to yourself is, oh, I'm just bad at admin,
Starting point is 00:03:32 so it's not my fault. And that's not true. But I think you kind of, you characterise me as being someone who is faultless for other people's responsibilities and needs. And that includes stuff like timekeeping, which is, we've discussed.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Your timekeeping is right. It's not too bad, yeah. But one would suggest that to rectify the situation, I could have kept it home for a couple of days. I wasn't in for a couple of days. What did I do? I went straight to the post office
Starting point is 00:03:56 and posted it back. So it would be back in producer, the head of studio, Charlie's hands, within the 24 hour time for him. Okay? Yeah. So 12 quid I think is an adequate fine
Starting point is 00:04:07 for my forgetfulness. So we got Frank. But will you learn your lesson based on that 12 quid? Well, we'll see. I know the answer. The answer is no. At 44, probably not. No, the chat though
Starting point is 00:04:17 about Maximo Park at the start of the show was from, I was singing Maximo Park down the mic while we were getting ready while Bruno was faffing around. Right. And he's not got a mic to defend himself, so we won't lay it on too thick. but and you were like oh, Maximo Park
Starting point is 00:04:32 and the reason I was singing a bit of Maximo Park was because my best friend who is the editor of the excellent songwriting magazine I've told you about before and if you're a fan of not just music but songwriting generally
Starting point is 00:04:45 you should subscribe to it because it's fucking brilliant and it gets so many good people on it even though it's a real kind of grassroots operation they do like I mean it's amazing what they do I'm getting sidetracked here but very quickly they'll go and do
Starting point is 00:04:56 like a Nashville episode where they go and sorry edition where they'll go and speak to some of the best songwriters in Nashville and how they do it in their process. They do songwriting masterclasses. They do events. Do amazing stuff. And you get it on an app and you also get a physical copy as well.
Starting point is 00:05:09 So brilliant magazine. Anyway, he gets invited to all these shows by PRs because it will be like, in this case, Maximo Park. It's the 20th anniversary of a certain trigger, which is their big first record. So they're doing the tour. That was their best one. It's a brilliant album.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Best one. And it stands the test of time. I listened to it fairly recently. Applies some pressure, going missing. Exactly. The course is always changing. Now I'm all over the shop. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:05:31 What's the opening, what's the opening song called? Signal sign. Brilliant. It's a fucking brilliant song. And he said to me last night, he saw them at a venue in Bristol, and they were sensational. Now, did he do any jump in the air and scissors kicks? I think he still does that, even though he's like older than both of us. My fray, well, should I name him?
Starting point is 00:05:50 Fuck it. Lucho, the train driver was obsessed to. We talk about him all the time. I know, but he was obsessed to it because you could see Paul, the lead singer. his penis appendage appendage through his tight impressive appendage impressive appendage
Starting point is 00:06:03 a Jack White level of impressive appendage is he always were really tight red trousers you can see really I see I'm gonna Google that yeah do it now
Starting point is 00:06:11 I'll just feel while you look at a picture a picture of Matt's Jack White yeah when I saw Maximo Park for the first time you've managed to get on the Wi-Fi now have you
Starting point is 00:06:21 when I saw Maximo Park you look at it well the problem is There's a gay gentleman who's on... There's Jack White's Triple X on Twitter who seems to take up all of the... That's not going to be him, is it? I'll find it for you later.
Starting point is 00:06:40 One would suggest that Jack White isn't packing all that much, but he's very much making the most by wearing those trousers. And we've all done it. That's fair. We've all done it. You did it the other day. That's fair. What I would say, though, to that is
Starting point is 00:06:53 when you and I are observing... Big testicles. The penis size of other men, Yes. I think we're coming from different few points. Right. Because you're famously well endowed. According to you, yes.
Starting point is 00:07:03 You are? I'm not... Any lover I've ever had will say, for the record, that's not the case. And much like the Nashville magazine... Do you want me to kill this, Lily, or not? I will. I'm happy to tell people how I know, if you want.
Starting point is 00:07:18 It doesn't really matter, because I'm not going to make love to another one other than my partner. Another woman other than my partner. Why are you getting so defensive about it? I'm just saying you should... You should be more ambitious about the people that you say. I probably should, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And it tells its own story, doesn't it, that I'm not? But the simple fact of the matter is, Peter, is... Sure not a grower, I think is the... I saw your penis. Right. Red in tooth and claw, as they say. And I was impressed by it. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:46 It stayed with me. It stayed with you. Figuratively. A certain trigger. And therefore, that's how I formed my opinion. Right. I'm not saying, oh, the bloke down the road told me that he used to go out of his sister. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:57 And she said, you had a... good old don't on you. Right. I've seen it. Yeah. I've already got myself to blame then in many ways. You shouldn't have seen it. What are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:08:04 I can't remember. Maximo Park. Yeah, so Maximo Park, right? The indie band of the noughties, Maximo Park. They've stood the test of time. Yeah. In a way, I would say so, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We both agree on that.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Yeah. When I first saw them, and Matt told you the story before, it would have been when, it would have been adjacent to you around this time. Right. It would have been around 2006-ish. And, um, what, it was the NME shockwaves tour. God. Do you remember
Starting point is 00:08:29 they used to put enemy shockwaves on the floor on like on the conference on the floor and you would see the enemy
Starting point is 00:08:37 shockwaves to printed on the floor for years I don't know why they allowed it do you know what's a great example of that
Starting point is 00:08:42 is if you see you wouldn't have seen this you wouldn't get the train into Victoria would you no so what's the name
Starting point is 00:08:48 of that author COVID stickers on the floor is it is that famous author Bruno is it David Nichols right
Starting point is 00:08:53 he wrote a book called us right yeah yeah I'm familiar let me just find out when that book came out because
Starting point is 00:08:59 he wrote it in 2014, right? Up until, I mean, I'm not going to go as far as to say it's still there, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is. Up until very recently, it was definitely there. In 2014, he puts a book out called us
Starting point is 00:09:15 and the publisher take a massive billboard advert out on the approach to Victoria Station. Yeah. As you're walking into the station. Yeah. I promise you a year ago, it was still there. Still there, yeah. 11 years later. Because the, nobody You wanted that spot for whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah. You sometimes see it on the tube, don't you? Anyway, so the NMA shockwaves tour. You do, you sit on the tube as well. We, I went there. I think I managed to scourge tickets from the XFM gang. Because I had that, remember they used to have that roller decks full of tickets. Do you remember that?
Starting point is 00:09:42 They used to hand them out. Like, Raff used to have them in his draw, didn't he? Yeah, XFM had a big box of the tickets of all these different shows around London. And if you got to be friendly with people, I was friendly with, with a couple of them. Jim, Jim, remember Jim Benner? Yeah, Jim fucking Benner. He fucking stitched me up. out of a job but that's a different story.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I'm on this side. At the time, fair enough. At the time I was friends with him and he used to go to me, yeah, just rang out yourself, mate.
Starting point is 00:10:05 If it got to the point when the show was that night and the tickets were still in the box, you'd just let you have them. Anyway, so I got tickets for the NMA shockwaves and it was mystery jets. Lovely.
Starting point is 00:10:15 It was... I think I'm in love. Yeah, keep filling because I can't remember to the second one. We're the girl next door. We are scientists. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:23 They're playing South End this year. They're still around. They're great lads. My friend went on to them and they're really lovely fellas. Then it was Arctic Monkeys. Right. And then Maximo Park.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Right. Maximil Park of headline. Or, you know, like actually, a genuine headliners. They had put this record out. Everyone loved them. I think it was Bricks and Academy. Quite a big show. They'd be doing Bricks and Academy.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I actually saw them at Wage of Rooms as well before that. But anyway, this is Bricks and Academy headline show. In between that show getting booked and the show actually happening, say, I don't know, six months later. Yeah. Arctic Monkeys became the biggest band in Britain by miles. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:57 And so there was talk that it was this really weird situation because that was around the time. I then, the dates are confusing to me, but around that time I then also started working at Domino, which is Arctic Monkeys label. I was doing shifts there. And Arctic Monkeys were saying they wanted to be first on. They'd never put a record out. They weren't confident playing second on. And NME wanted them to headline.
Starting point is 00:11:24 And were causing a load of problems with Maximo Park. who were like, hang on a fucking minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're supposed to be the headlines here. It's a bit of a piss take. Yeah. There's a load of fucking shit going on around it. So I went to the show.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I got there early because I was a nerd for the music and I wanted to watch all the bands. And I ended up seeing mystery jets, yeah, no, fine. We are scientists, fine. And then Arctic Monkeys... The dad was the drummer. Dad wasn't...
Starting point is 00:11:49 The dad wasn't a guitar player. Right. He was... That was in the band. Yeah. The least singer had polio, I think. Was it spina bifflare. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:56 one of them. They were from Ilpao Island in West London, weren't they? Right. That island in the middle of the Thames near Twickenham. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Anyway. Good lad. Artie monkeys came on and they were brilliant. They were really good. And everyone was fucking going mad for it, obviously, because they were huge. And they were a genuine, as we know,
Starting point is 00:12:16 like a genuine organic success story. They were fucking massive. And people were really into it. Shatting every word of every song, even though they didn't put a record out, all the rest of it. And then what was weird is that when they went on,
Starting point is 00:12:26 off, 50% of the crowd left. Yeah. Nice. Left. Then Maximum and Park came on and were fucking unbelievable. It was like they'd been motivated by all this shit. Yeah. And they were fucking unbelievable, mate. Like, so good. Yeah. And I remember Paul Smith coming on and shouting, before they even started a song, shouting down the mic, we are Maximo Park and this is what we do.
Starting point is 00:12:46 And then the music kicks in and everyone went mad. It was really, really good show. So I've always got a lot of affection for them for that. And I'm pleased they're doing the old 20 year anniversary. Because you haven't got a anything have you? You just go out there. This is the record you already like. We haven't got to do any new music if we don't want to, and we can just play. Can I take the guild off that, Lily, very briefly? He did come in for a Becker-Fshaw interview once,
Starting point is 00:13:08 and he had a book of poetry. Yeah, he was a bit like that. Fucking, get out. When I saw him at Wager Rooms, he was very nervous as a lead singer, and he was reading the lyrics from a book. Yes, he did. He did usually do that, didn't he? His little black book. Well, there you go. And that is the pot history of Billingham slash Sunland band
Starting point is 00:13:26 What's Billingham like? What's Billingham like? It's got a ice rink. It's the only plus the ice rink. And one, one John Joyce company, John Joyce, a betting company that used to work at sometimes. It was a shit to get to, but it was very quiet. Oh, so you used to work in Billington? I used to work in Billingham.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Billingham, yeah. Is that near Hartlepool then? Yeah, yeah, not far away. I thought it was near Middersborough. Oh, we're all kind of close, are we? Oh, right, okay. And your dad's from Seam? Yeah. And that's different? That's up near Sondland, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:54 That's a proper pit town. Right. A pit. Sounds like it's stagnant off, if you go off, if you go, if I drive up and see where my dad's from and stuff,
Starting point is 00:14:01 it's a tiny, like it's a tiny, like village. I didn't know, I thought it was a lot. How many people, do you reckon? Oh, God knows.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I don't know how many isn't, aren't it, is Paul Smith the most famous man to come from Billingham? Probably. Should we have a look? Yeah, I'd be interested
Starting point is 00:14:14 what other notes for residents are in there. Billing. But listen, I'd be, I'd be interesting in going to see Maximot. I mean,
Starting point is 00:14:19 I've not, I've not bothered buy a ticket, but I'll be interesting going to see him again. I just always, they're one of those bands that they'll just play near your house, won't they?
Starting point is 00:14:27 What I find impressive about it? Jeremy Bell. Oh, is he from there? Jeremy Bells. Okay, that's not bad. Jeremy Billingham. We've talked about this before. Diane Udall.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Is that? Jet from Gladiators. Is she from there? She's from there. Huh. It doesn't sound like it, does she? The big, we've talked about this many years ago,
Starting point is 00:14:43 but the big, impressive place in terms of it's tiny, yet so many famous people are from there is the town of Bell's Hill, near Glasgow in Scotland, isn't it? The amount of people from there is just insane.
Starting point is 00:14:57 It's a town of... Let me just check how many people live there, right? I can't see. Oh, 20,000 people live there, right? Tiny. So that is basically... Put in perspective, that is basically a fifth of the size of Gosport where I'm from, right?
Starting point is 00:15:08 So, I mean, and there's no one from Gosport. Yeah, but no one, right? The people from there, Soup Dragons, Teenage Fan Club, Mogwai, and that's just the music. Then in terms of other people generally, you've got, let me find it here, Reform Party Chairman Zia Yusuf, Sheena Easton's from there.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Nice, okay. You've got loads of footballers from there. Brian Kerr's from there, Malkey Mackay's from there, Brian McClare's from there, Ali McKeust. Oh, wow. So many people from there. It's just crazy how, for the size of town it is. You're talking about like one and a thousand people are like really significant.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Yeah, really well known. Not the same for our problem of gospel. No. Obviously, Hartlepool, you've got you, the canoe man. Yanick Gers. Yannick Gers from Iron Maiden. Jeff Stelling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:59 I think one of Sneaker Pimps. Oh, really? I used to love Sneaker Pimps. Is a, Sarah, I think, had a tryout for them. When they were a place in the lead singer. Now you're talking. Or the singer, I suppose. Yeah, oh, right, because they were like a,
Starting point is 00:16:15 almost like a DJ duo of a female singer. That record Becoming X was massive for me at uni. Now I said to piss out of you for spending all time in your room listening to Macy Gray. You're not talking to anyone. You were listening to Sneaker Pips. That's not a better, is it? I was basically doing that with Sneaker Pips. The final person from Billingham is the bloke from Chumbabwamba.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Okay, the main guy? The main guy. At least it's the main guy. At least it's the main guy. They had like somebody called chips not sausage, didn't they? Sausage and chips. Did they? I think, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:45 A lot of them have, a lot of those types of bands of that era had like, comedy in quotes comedy nickname yeah Chumbar Wamba what's his name I don't know who the guy's name is that actually links Maximal Park because they're both on the FIFA soundtrack Chumbabwamba and that
Starting point is 00:17:00 true and Chumbabwamba the guy from Chumbabwamba Dan Burt, not bake, no bacon Dan Burt nor bacon What did you say? Sausage and chips Similar Alice Nutter Do you remember when one of them
Starting point is 00:17:11 poured a jug of of iced water over John Prescott? Oh yes I do remember that yeah Did he chin him? No, he chinned the other guy with a muller, didn't he put an egg on it, hit him with an egg. That was an amazing time for that type of stuff. I mean, imagine being, think of the political times in which we now live.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Imagine being so annoyed about the state of politics that you're going to do a protest about John Prescott. Yeah. Who's probably politics, some of the most reasonable politics you could ever imagine. And especially because, like, they were, you know, he would have been. at the same minor strikes as, for example, Alice Nutter from the band Chumbabamba. Yeah. Well, John Prescott was like the,
Starting point is 00:17:55 this is the guy to give us the kind of left-wing credentials we need because we're new labour. Yeah, he was their hardcore kind of, he was their... Corbyn's a terrible example, but he was the unionist, funny. You're a big conian man. I'm a Conwin, I'm a Conwin-Twitty man. You're a big Corby man, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:18:10 Yeah, I love him. Yeah, can't get enough. It's the organisation that you like, isn't it? It's the... Like, he's a little bearer. All right, let's have a break. When we come back, I want to talk about a couple of TV shows I've been enjoying. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:18:26 The ringing endorsement. We're back with the Luke Pete show, and it's a Monday, so no batteries until next show. If you have got a battery, do let us know which one you found. We actually did a little battery uncovering in this very studio. Your granddad's radio is in the studio. Have we told the story about my granddad's radio? It's not a very big story, but it's a sentimentally important one to me. Your granddad's got a had a Thorn Consumer Electronics Limited,
Starting point is 00:18:51 made in Taiwan Model 3R. 06. Ferguson, it's Ferguson, it's Ferguson, branded Ferguson. Um, is it? Yeah. Did Thorn on the... Oh yeah, Ferguson Radio Star. Yeah. Thorn were presumably the consumer electronic brand over the top of that.
Starting point is 00:19:03 But yeah, they did their important and putting together presumably of a beautiful model 3R.06, um, FM and... Oh, it's not FM, actually. It's a long wave and medium wave radio. That's what dates it. There's no FM on it. No FM on it. So, do you feel it's a lot of it?
Starting point is 00:19:18 a nice bit of kit that. It is a very nice bit of kit, actually. And we open the back battery. We should take these batteries out, actually, because they're not working very well. It might leak everywhere. Easy life batteries. We're doing a live on covering.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Like an Easy Jet branded. Like an Easy Jet Bandering, Easy Life. And they've got no... They've not stood the test of time. One of them is leaking a little bit, so I'll probably... Get it out, yeah. Get it out there.
Starting point is 00:19:41 It wouldn't be a new player. So basically the story behind that is that... And those easy lives have been sent in... Oh, five, is it? nine times before. So, even a new player. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:50 get rid of him. The form's gone all crumbly. So very enjoyable. On the, on that aforementioned radio, so basically, my granddaughter passed away in November of last year,
Starting point is 00:20:00 and he was 94, and he was a great man, and I was very close to him. And when I had to go to his house and do that awful thing you ever do, we kind of look through people's possessions and stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:11 My mum, he's obviously, it was her father, said, you know, take whatever you want. Yeah. We need to keep hold of the stuff we want. but you know, take something
Starting point is 00:20:18 because you don't take it. I inherited a candelabra recently. Did you? I have no cause to use. Why did you take it? I didn't, it's one of those things. I'll offer it back to
Starting point is 00:20:27 her family, my auntie, John, who died earlier this year. No, late last year. And I'll offer it back, but I feel like, I don't need,
Starting point is 00:20:37 what candelabras in 2025? You kind of want to take people's, you know, bequests, bequeatings on you seriously, because that's,
Starting point is 00:20:47 that's what they wish. But she specifically said she wanted you to have it. Yeah, but I do feel like I'm just taking a silver candlelight away from a family. Yeah. Well, my ground had left no such possessions to us specifically. But anyway, that radio, he, so I fell in love of radio and I was about 12 or 13. I used to listen to it on the clock radio under my bed and used to listen to phone ins and the football commentaries and that kind of stuff that I've probably talked about in other
Starting point is 00:21:12 places before. But my ground had that radio. I cannot remember a time I didn't have it Yeah So I mean it's not even got an FM button on it So it must be what Early 80s maybe
Starting point is 00:21:25 They could have Could have just opted it out We know what we're good at It's old though It's old yeah And he used to have it on the bathroom Every single day When he was shaving in the morning
Starting point is 00:21:36 And I just had an amazing sentimental attachment to it When I saw the stuff all piled up I was like You can't get rid of that Yeah And my mum was like why I was like, because it's like, this is radio, right?
Starting point is 00:21:48 And I remember him having it in the air and cupboard in this old house. And I used to go in there. And he'd always just leave it on. And I thought to myself, not only is it sentimentally very important to me. And obviously it's part, you know, it's at least related to the job I do now. So I want to kind of keep that continuity going. But I was saying to you, wasn't I, that that's been in like a steamy bathroom for like 40 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:07 It still works. It's literally still works fine. Yeah. And it still works fine. Yeah. Now, how, if you bought a bit of consumer electronica now, Peter, would you be expected to work in 44 years time? No, God, no.
Starting point is 00:22:17 God no. I mean, it says that it's... Was VHF... You know what? I don't think it is pre-FM. I think VHF, when it says VHF, it just wasn't branded as... So VHF stands a very high frequency.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Yeah. So it must be... That's what they called. FM. Yeah. Amazing bit of kit anyway. Lovely bit of kit. Let's get some batteries in it.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Let's bring it back to life for crying out loud. So yeah, we get some batteries in it and we'll have a play around with it later. I want to keep it in the studio because I think it's a nice thing for people to see. So you'll see it in the background
Starting point is 00:22:49 of some of these YouTube videos and you'll see, maybe you'll be eagle-eyed and you'll say, where's that come from? I download the schematic from the Radio Museum.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Definitely do that. Definitely do that. Make some modifications. Because Ferguson, so that's the thing. So Ferguson went to the wall, didn't it? So my dad used to work for Ferguson.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Yeah. That was my dad's like, that was my dad's trade for whatever it is, 20-something years. He worked in the factory at Ferguson. And then that's why we were brought up to Hayt Thatcher
Starting point is 00:23:14 because their manufacturer. because their manufacturing policies basically fucking completely torpedoed all that shit right so whereas up north it was all the mines and stuff where we were it was um that's your milk snatcher yeah it was that but it was also like manufacturing and stuff like that and i think it was a weird situation because a lot of the people where i grew up were in the navy
Starting point is 00:23:32 and they all the forces love the tories don't they because normally they traditionally fund the services so people loved her for that but the people who didn't work in the services was a right old dickhead my uncle got kicked out of a pub for um for having a fist fight with a Tory, either counsellor or MP.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Right. Yeah. They, he told my nan, his mum, that it was because he got banned from the pub quiz for being too good at it. Which is good because he was good at pub quizzes, to be fair.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Yeah. Have you seen the, is it the Crucairn Gazette man? No. He, they, if your dad is WhatsApp forward-minded, you will have been forwarded some,
Starting point is 00:24:14 gopping AI shite. They're the ones I believe that did the AI only fills and horses bollocks. Oh, I sure that. You showed me that. That was fucking weird.
Starting point is 00:24:23 So there's some like... Proper dystopian shit. So there's some anti-Kir-Stama start. It's been just every... David Lamy, Kirstarmer. They moved on from Dian Abbot,
Starting point is 00:24:32 have they? I mean, they have to. They simply have to leave Diane Abba behind. They just have to. Why? Because she's no longer... Because she's no longer part of it.
Starting point is 00:24:41 But yeah, Kirstarmer, this anti-Kastarma AI stuff on YouTube and they're very, very successful. What are they called? I think it's the Krukearn Gazette and it's a satirical you know, website slash YouTube page and it will surprise no one to learn
Starting point is 00:25:02 that the person behind it who keeps on popping up on GB News saying that I've got to hide my identity because people will know who I am and you can get cancelled and get in trouble all that stuff and you know under Kirstama I'd probably get arrested.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah. I mean, he's already been arrested for being a key figure in the extreme right labeled as a neo-Nazi, prolific online troll, proud anti-Semite, and he, I believe, was arrested for anti-Semitism. So there we can't. And now he's out there generating millions of views for the dads. For the dads everywhere. So if your dad, is your dad a part of this?
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yeah, my dad's forwarded on a few. And I said, dad, this is Moribund stuff. Yeah. and perpetrated by a man who was inciting racial hatred against Jewish community and racially aggravated harassment against a Labour MP. What did your dad say to that? It's funny, though, isn't it? He did actually say that.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Were your dad pause for thought if he learned that news? No. It'll stop send me them, which makes me happy. But do you, does it make you pine for when you used to have big rows with him about sending you low-quality res JPEGs? Yeah, well, I actually offered him my chat GPD login sort of good. Do you want to have a piss about with Sora?
Starting point is 00:26:16 I just think you'd get, because he was, he was a man of the Photoshop for quite a long time. He was, yeah. He loved a Photoshop. And now Dad's don't even need... This is the next iteration of that. This is the next iteration of that. I was like, Dad, you'll probably have a good time on, Sawra.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Just do a prompt. You haven't got a... Be a promptman. You haven't got to do any cut-out or anything like that. Do you reckon he would be a promptman? A happy promptman? I think so. But would he do, would he do, like, some politically questionable stuff?
Starting point is 00:26:37 No, I know. What kind of stuff? Yeah, I have not seen them do photo. It would be mainly blocks down the pub, of which there are very few pictures of them online. When there's fewer pictures of people online, it starts off fine, the AI stuff, but then your face just suddenly changes for no good reason.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I've said to you before, what I find absolutely fascinating about the kind of AI-generated, like, artwork stuff. Yeah. Is that, like, you genuinely can't trust that they, you know, say, for example, we wanted to generate some AI artwork for one of our podcasts, which we wouldn't do
Starting point is 00:27:10 because we use designers because we're good eggs like that. You know, if you did one, you'd have to look at it really carefully because sometimes, as I said to you before, like say you do a generator, a new kind of, you know, an AI bit of artwork
Starting point is 00:27:24 for a narrative hard-hitting doc series or something like that, you'd have to look really carefully because sometimes in those AI-generator things just a little monkey riding the unicycle in the corner. Just comes from nowhere. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Like a monkey juggling. I think you can always tell what they are nowadays because the people who make the prompts and put these stuff out. They don't edit them tightly enough. Do you know what I mean? What's the process, though?
Starting point is 00:27:45 What do you do? The actor will sort of pause for way too long and then start their guff. And then if there's two people in the scene, the other person will also be mouthing the words, like a bad actor. But how is the only funny Fools and Horses one you said? How does that actually work?
Starting point is 00:28:01 How do they do that? You literally just type in. The cast. So you type in the whole scene? The TV show, the fake, you know, make me a fake TV show. where they're talking about Kirstama and, you know, there might be more detailed,
Starting point is 00:28:13 sort of, you can prompt gags and stuff, but, um, yeah, it's pretty broad, piss easy stuff. And that uses loads of energy,
Starting point is 00:28:19 doesn't it? Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, sort of everything, but yeah, it's,
Starting point is 00:28:23 it's, it's, because I was reading on the, uh, we're basically sending ourselves into the heat death of the planet for this kind of shit. Mm.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Right. Yeah. And, and the, the big worry is that things like data centers and all this kind of shit. I mean, if you look at the projections of so that open AI need
Starting point is 00:28:39 in terms of data centers and funding and stuff like that, it's basically like the GDP of quite a sizable country. Yeah. I mean, but the thing that will run out before the heat death universe will be investment. So the bubble's already bursting. People are just making stuff up, aren't they? Yeah, Microsoft, watching Microsoft's quite interesting
Starting point is 00:28:57 because they're putting AI in everything. Like, even like fucking like note patterns. The co-pilot thing. The copilot thing, they try to put in everything and stuff. But then they're also kind of reducing the amount of money they think they're going to get from AI and also just making a couple of noises where they're like, this bubble is about to burst and it's going to burst hard.
Starting point is 00:29:14 But... Have you seen that compilation of the stuff Elon Musk said, like, separated by year? Right. About like going to the moon, based on Mars, self-driving cars, yeah. AI.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And he essentially just rehashes the same thing every year. He should concentrate on getting a new bladder. You should. He's on the Kerman, is he? Yeah, that's famous. Didn't he sort of famously say that he's having wee-wee-trouble because of his Ketman use? That is one of the side effects of heavy ketamine use.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Yeah, I've said before, like, how ketamine's got to be brilliant, I never tried it, but good God. Do you know... If your fucking piss bag lining is coming out your cock, like, and you're like, absolutely fine with it. A bit more ketamine, please. No, so do you want to... There's a bit of detail on that specific issue that someone told me once. I know someone who will remain nameless who used a lot of ketamine. It's not me.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And when they talk about bladder problems, the way he described it, I don't know if this is roughly commensurate of how everyone experiences the problems but he told me that at a party once he had passed out at a house party and he woke up and because the way he described it was I couldn't piss
Starting point is 00:30:22 but I couldn't stop myself piss so basically it was just an endless really unimpressive waterfall of piss coming out of his knob until his bladder emptied and he had no control to make it go like a proper piss but he also couldn't stop it
Starting point is 00:30:37 It was like a sort of dribble. So it was almost like, you know, say like, say, if you think of your, if you think of your penis and your bladder, it's like a pressure valve. So you decide when they go to it for a piss and it releases the pressure
Starting point is 00:30:49 and you have control over that. When you don't have control over that, as soon as the bladder starts spinning up, it just sort of drips out the bottom like a bucket with a hole in it. Yeah. And that's how you have to deal with, that's what happens.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Right. So it's not like, oh, it's really painful to piss or I can't piss at all or whatever. It almost just removes every, control you've got. Yeah. So you basically have to wear nappies.
Starting point is 00:31:11 My velocity of piss. Our velocity. Our velocity. Yeah, exactly. What do you think about that? Does that make you not want to do it? I just think you could just try it a couple of times. I'm sure you'd be fine.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I mean, I'm not endorsing drug use, but I'm sure. I'm sure. I can do it. Enjoy yourself. Is that enjoying yourself? This show has been sponsored by Ferguson and Ketemim. And we'll be back very, very soon indeed. Thursday, the 19th of February.
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