The Luke and Pete Show - The Happy Promptman
Episode Date: February 16, 2026On the agenda today: Maxïmo Park, tight trousers and the appendages they disguise (or don’t disguise) and the astonishing number of famous people produced by one small Scottish town.Plus, we have a... look at a beautiful radio owned by Luke’s grandad and find out what Pete’s father makes of AI.Send us your latest stories, questions and comments here: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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I've got nothing in...
There's nothing wrong with an umlau.
Nothing on with an umlau.
You must live your life in such a frightened manner.
I just don't want an umlau in my Maximo Park band names.
They're not called Uber Sternfure.
I call Maximo Power.
Ah!
Oh, good band.
Good band.
The course is always changing.
The night I lost my head.
I am long and I am lost.
Every sentence has its cost.
I mean, I guess he was involved in old, uh,
Brewist,
and field music and all then,
but he was...
Future heads as well.
Yeah, I feel like they were...
I feel like he was...
They were a classic...
Not a class of part,
but they were...
Brilliant.
He was a very different set up,
I would say, Maximo Park.
Oh, we're recording already?
We are reading already, yeah.
Sorry, I didn't know it's Peter.
I'm not as professional as you.
That's all right.
In that one specific area.
Well, you just missed us singing
to Maximal Park there, I would say.
Did you catch it, Bruno or not?
Did he sing in?
No, Bruno's fucked it.
He's had audition errors all morning.
Yeah.
It's very grand the name, Adobe audition.
To explain to people what audition errors means.
Adobe Audition is the very expensive software we used to recall.
Software as a service?
Software as a service.
Adobe.
Used to be able to buy crack versions of Photoshop and After Effects,
and they were a bit janky, something's their crash.
But now you get one that also are a bit janky and they crash.
But you pay $250 a month for them.
So disgusting.
When they give you errors?
I'm not allowed after effects.
Can't afford it?
Well, yeah.
Is it because we can't afford it?
Well, we can't afford it.
But you can't justify the...
I just kind of just to justify the cost.
Fine.
I just want what we need is a virtual.
I'll tell you how that went.
You spoke to the person who makes those decisions and you, I promise you this.
And he went.
No, you went, can I have Adobe After Effects, please?
And he said, what's it for?
And you probably said something like, I just want to learn it or on a muckabout on it or something like that.
No, after effect I do actually use quite a lot.
But for the greater good, one of my rare bits of altruism, I decided to take a step back and go, you know what?
It's a nice to have, but it's not necessary for my weekly.
work. That said, or I think I will be asking for it.
So you and altruism is quite interesting because
you are a very generous person.
But when it comes to, well, no, you are,
but you rarely do things for the greater good.
Right.
So what I mean by that is if I said to you, if I came in this morning and said,
Pete, in fact, I did kind of do this.
I won't go into detail because it wouldn't be appropriate.
But I did come to your while ago and say, Pete,
I need a large amount of,
money and I know you've got some money. Can I have it? And you said yes. What part of that is not,
that's great. What part of that is not very specific? No, but I'm just about the amount.
Right. The amounts, right. And what it was for, all the rest of it. And you were saying,
eye watering. And you didn't, I mean, you didn't even bleak. You were like, course, mate, no problem.
And then, but when it comes to like, for example, I didn't send you a picture my daughter crying,
going, where's the food, dada? Yeah. I didn't mind that. Lid it on thick. I didn't care about
that. Probably what's spurned you on. No, exactly. I replied, ironically saying,
it's for the greater good.
But when it comes to say
like altruistic team playing things,
like I don't know,
maybe looking after your work pass,
right?
You won't do that.
But that is not,
that's just bad admin.
That's not,
I don't feel like me looking after a work pass.
It's a selfishness to it, isn't it?
Because people could go,
losing a work pass.
No, but I think,
let me just explain.
Got my work pass.
It was someone else's work pass.
In a minute we're going to work
Maximo Park.
Let me just do this, right?
There's a selfishness to it
because what you can say to yourself is,
oh, I'm just bad at admin,
so it's not my fault.
And that's not true.
But I think you kind of,
you characterise me as being someone
who is faultless for other people's
responsibilities and needs.
And that includes stuff like timekeeping,
which is, we've discussed.
Your timekeeping is right.
It's not too bad, yeah.
But one would suggest that
to rectify the situation,
I could have kept it home for a couple of days.
I wasn't in for a couple of days.
What did I do?
I went straight to the post office
and posted it back.
So it would be back in producer,
the head of studio,
Charlie's hands,
within the 24 hour time for him.
Okay?
Yeah.
So 12 quid I think is an adequate fine
for my forgetfulness.
So we got Frank.
But will you learn your lesson based on that 12 quid?
Well, we'll see.
I know the answer.
The answer is no.
At 44, probably not.
No, the chat though
about Maximo Park at the start of the show
was from, I was singing Maximo Park down the mic
while we were getting ready while Bruno was faffing around.
Right.
And he's not got a mic to defend himself,
so we won't lay it on too thick.
but and you were like
oh, Maximo Park
and the reason I was singing
a bit of Maximo Park
was because my best friend
who is the editor of
the excellent songwriting magazine
I've told you about before
and if you're a fan of not just music
but songwriting generally
you should subscribe to it
because it's fucking brilliant
and it gets so many good people on it
even though it's a real kind of
grassroots operation
they do like I mean it's amazing what they do
I'm getting sidetracked here
but very quickly they'll go and do
like a Nashville episode
where they go and sorry edition
where they'll go and speak to some of the best songwriters in Nashville
and how they do it in their process.
They do songwriting masterclasses.
They do events.
Do amazing stuff.
And you get it on an app and you also get a physical copy as well.
So brilliant magazine.
Anyway, he gets invited to all these shows by PRs
because it will be like, in this case, Maximo Park.
It's the 20th anniversary of a certain trigger,
which is their big first record.
So they're doing the tour.
That was their best one.
It's a brilliant album.
Best one.
And it stands the test of time.
I listened to it fairly recently.
Applies some pressure, going missing.
Exactly.
The course is always changing.
Now I'm all over the shop.
Yeah, maybe.
What's the opening, what's the opening song called?
Signal sign.
Brilliant.
It's a fucking brilliant song.
And he said to me last night, he saw them at a venue in Bristol, and they were sensational.
Now, did he do any jump in the air and scissors kicks?
I think he still does that, even though he's like older than both of us.
My fray, well, should I name him?
Fuck it.
Lucho, the train driver was obsessed to.
We talk about him all the time.
I know, but he was obsessed to it because you could see Paul, the lead singer.
his penis appendage
appendage through his tight
impressive appendage
impressive appendage
a Jack White level of
impressive appendage
is he always
were really tight red trousers
you can see
really I see
I'm gonna Google that
yeah do it now
I'll just feel
while you look at a picture
a picture of Matt's Jack White
yeah
when I saw Maximo Park
for the first time
you've managed to get on the Wi-Fi
now have you
when I saw Maximo Park
you look at it
well the problem is
There's a gay gentleman who's on...
There's Jack White's Triple X on Twitter
who seems to take up all of the...
That's not going to be him, is it?
I'll find it for you later.
One would suggest that Jack White isn't packing all that much,
but he's very much making the most by wearing those trousers.
And we've all done it.
That's fair.
We've all done it.
You did it the other day.
That's fair.
What I would say, though, to that is
when you and I are observing...
Big testicles.
The penis size of other men,
Yes.
I think we're coming from different few points.
Right.
Because you're famously well endowed.
According to you, yes.
You are?
I'm not...
Any lover I've ever had will say,
for the record, that's not the case.
And much like the Nashville magazine...
Do you want me to kill this, Lily, or not?
I will.
I'm happy to tell people how I know, if you want.
It doesn't really matter,
because I'm not going to make love to another one
other than my partner.
Another woman other than my partner.
Why are you getting so defensive about it?
I'm just saying you should...
You should be more ambitious about the people that you say.
I probably should, yeah.
And it tells its own story, doesn't it, that I'm not?
But the simple fact of the matter is, Peter, is...
Sure not a grower, I think is the...
I saw your penis.
Right.
Red in tooth and claw, as they say.
And I was impressed by it.
Right.
It stayed with me.
It stayed with you.
Figuratively.
A certain trigger.
And therefore, that's how I formed my opinion.
Right.
I'm not saying, oh, the bloke down the road told me that he used to go out of his sister.
Yeah.
And she said, you had a...
good old don't on you.
Right.
I've seen it.
Yeah.
I've already got myself to blame then in many ways.
You shouldn't have seen it.
What are we talking about?
I can't remember.
Maximo Park.
Yeah, so Maximo Park, right?
The indie band of the noughties, Maximo Park.
They've stood the test of time.
Yeah.
In a way, I would say so, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We both agree on that.
Yeah.
When I first saw them, and Matt told you the story before, it would have been when,
it would have been adjacent to you around this time.
Right.
It would have been around 2006-ish.
And, um, what, it was the NME shockwaves tour.
God.
Do you remember
they used to put
enemy shockwaves
on the floor
on like
on the conference
on the floor
and you would see
the enemy
shockwaves to
printed on the floor
for years
I don't know
why they allowed it
do you know
what's a great example
of that
is if you see
you wouldn't have seen
this
you wouldn't get the train
into Victoria
would you
no
so what's the name
of that author
COVID stickers
on the floor
is it
is that famous
author Bruno
is it David Nichols
right
he wrote a book
called us
right
yeah yeah
I'm familiar
let me just
find out
when that book came out because
he wrote it in
2014, right?
Up until, I mean, I'm not going to go
as far as to say it's still there,
but I wouldn't be surprised if it is.
Up until very recently,
it was definitely there. In 2014,
he puts a book out called us
and the publisher take a massive billboard
advert out on the approach
to Victoria Station. Yeah. As you're walking
into the station. Yeah. I promise you
a year ago, it was still there.
Still there, yeah. 11 years later.
Because the, nobody
You wanted that spot for whatever.
Yeah.
You sometimes see it on the tube, don't you?
Anyway, so the NMA shockwaves tour.
You do, you sit on the tube as well.
We, I went there.
I think I managed to scourge tickets from the XFM gang.
Because I had that, remember they used to have that roller decks full of tickets.
Do you remember that?
They used to hand them out.
Like, Raff used to have them in his draw, didn't he?
Yeah, XFM had a big box of the tickets of all these different shows around London.
And if you got to be friendly with people, I was friendly with, with a couple of them.
Jim, Jim, remember Jim Benner?
Yeah, Jim fucking Benner.
He fucking stitched me up.
out of a job but that's a different story.
I'm on this side.
At the time,
fair enough.
At the time I was friends with him
and he used to go to me,
yeah,
just rang out yourself,
mate.
If it got to the point
when the show was that night
and the tickets were still in the box,
you'd just let you have them.
Anyway,
so I got tickets for the NMA shockwaves
and it was mystery jets.
Lovely.
It was...
I think I'm in love.
Yeah, keep filling
because I can't remember
to the second one.
We're the girl next door.
We are scientists.
Yeah.
They're playing South End this year.
They're still around.
They're great lads.
My friend went on to
them and they're really lovely fellas.
Then it was Arctic Monkeys.
Right.
And then Maximo Park.
Right.
Maximil Park of headline.
Or, you know, like actually, a genuine headliners.
They had put this record out.
Everyone loved them.
I think it was Bricks and Academy.
Quite a big show.
They'd be doing Bricks and Academy.
I actually saw them at Wage of Rooms as well before that.
But anyway, this is Bricks and Academy
headline show.
In between that show getting booked and the show actually happening, say, I don't know,
six months later.
Yeah.
Arctic Monkeys became the biggest band in Britain by miles.
Yeah.
And so there was talk that it was this really weird situation because that was around the time.
I then, the dates are confusing to me, but around that time I then also started working at Domino,
which is Arctic Monkeys label.
I was doing shifts there.
And Arctic Monkeys were saying they wanted to be first on.
They'd never put a record out.
They weren't confident playing second on.
And NME wanted them to headline.
And were causing a load of problems with Maximo Park.
who were like, hang on a fucking minute.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're supposed to be the headlines here.
It's a bit of a piss take.
Yeah.
There's a load of fucking shit going on around it.
So I went to the show.
I got there early because I was a nerd for the music
and I wanted to watch all the bands.
And I ended up seeing mystery jets,
yeah, no, fine.
We are scientists, fine.
And then Arctic Monkeys...
The dad was the drummer.
Dad wasn't...
The dad wasn't a guitar player.
Right.
He was...
That was in the band.
Yeah.
The least singer had polio, I think.
Was it spina bifflare.
Oh, yeah.
one of them.
They were from Ilpao Island in West London,
weren't they?
Right.
That island in the middle of
the Thames near Twickenham.
Right.
Okay.
Anyway.
Good lad.
Artie monkeys came on
and they were brilliant.
They were really good.
And everyone was fucking going mad for it,
obviously, because they were huge.
And they were a genuine, as we know,
like a genuine organic success story.
They were fucking massive.
And people were really into it.
Shatting every word of every song,
even though they didn't put a record out,
all the rest of it.
And then what was weird
is that when they went on,
off, 50% of the crowd left.
Yeah. Nice.
Left. Then Maximum and Park came on and were fucking
unbelievable. It was like they'd been motivated by all this shit.
Yeah. And they were fucking unbelievable, mate.
Like, so good. Yeah. And I remember Paul Smith coming on and
shouting, before they even started a song, shouting down the mic,
we are Maximo Park and this is what we do.
And then the music kicks in and everyone went mad. It was really, really good show.
So I've always got a lot of affection for them for that. And I'm pleased they're doing the old
20 year anniversary. Because you haven't got a
anything have you? You just go out there.
This is the record you already like. We haven't got to do
any new music if we don't want to, and we can just play.
Can I take the guild off that, Lily,
very briefly? He did come in for a Becker-Fshaw interview once,
and he had a book of poetry.
Yeah, he was a bit like that. Fucking, get out.
When I saw him at Wager Rooms, he was very nervous as a lead singer,
and he was reading the lyrics from a book.
Yes, he did. He did usually do that, didn't he?
His little black book. Well, there you go.
And that is the pot history of
Billingham slash Sunland band
What's Billingham like? What's Billingham like?
It's got a ice rink. It's the only plus the ice rink.
And one,
one John Joyce company,
John Joyce, a betting company that used to work at sometimes.
It was a shit to get to, but it was very quiet.
Oh, so you used to work in Billington?
I used to work in Billingham.
Billingham, yeah. Is that near Hartlepool then?
Yeah, yeah, not far away.
I thought it was near Middersborough.
Oh, we're all kind of close, are we?
Oh, right, okay.
And your dad's from Seam?
Yeah. And that's different?
That's up near Sondland, yeah.
That's a proper pit town.
Right.
A pit.
Sounds like it's stagnant off,
if you go off,
if you go,
if I drive up and see
where my dad's from and stuff,
it's a tiny,
like it's a tiny,
like village.
I didn't know,
I thought it was a lot.
How many people,
do you reckon?
Oh, God knows.
I don't know how many
isn't,
aren't it,
is Paul Smith the most famous
man to come from Billingham?
Probably.
Should we have a look?
Yeah, I'd be interested
what other notes
for residents are in there.
Billing.
But listen,
I'd be,
I'd be interesting
in going to see Maximot.
I mean,
I've not,
I've not bothered buy a ticket,
but I'll be interesting
going to see him again.
I just always,
they're one of those bands
that they'll just play near your house,
won't they?
What I find impressive about it?
Jeremy Bell.
Oh, is he from there?
Jeremy Bells.
Okay, that's not bad.
Jeremy Billingham.
We've talked about this before.
Diane Udall.
Is that?
Jet from Gladiators.
Is she from there?
She's from there.
Huh.
It doesn't sound like it, does she?
The big, we've talked about this
many years ago,
but the big,
impressive place
in terms of
it's tiny,
yet so many famous people are from there
is the town of Bell's Hill,
near Glasgow in Scotland, isn't it?
The amount of people from there is just insane.
It's a town of...
Let me just check how many people live there, right?
I can't see.
Oh, 20,000 people live there, right?
Tiny.
So that is basically...
Put in perspective, that is basically
a fifth of the size of Gosport where I'm from, right?
So, I mean, and there's no one from Gosport.
Yeah, but no one, right?
The people from there,
Soup Dragons, Teenage Fan Club,
Mogwai,
and that's just the music.
Then in terms of other people generally, you've got, let me find it here,
Reform Party Chairman Zia Yusuf, Sheena Easton's from there.
Nice, okay.
You've got loads of footballers from there.
Brian Kerr's from there, Malkey Mackay's from there,
Brian McClare's from there, Ali McKeust.
Oh, wow.
So many people from there.
It's just crazy how, for the size of town it is.
You're talking about like one and a thousand people are like really significant.
Yeah, really well known.
Not the same for our problem of gospel.
No.
Obviously, Hartlepool, you've got you, the canoe man.
Yanick Gers.
Yannick Gers from Iron Maiden.
Jeff Stelling.
Yeah.
I think one of Sneaker Pimps.
Oh, really?
I used to love Sneaker Pimps.
Is a, Sarah, I think, had a tryout for them.
When they were a place in the lead singer.
Now you're talking.
Or the singer, I suppose.
Yeah, oh, right, because they were like a,
almost like a DJ duo of a female singer.
That record Becoming X was massive for me at uni.
Now I said to piss out of you for spending all time in your room listening to Macy Gray.
You're not talking to anyone.
You were listening to Sneaker Pips.
That's not a better, is it?
I was basically doing that with Sneaker Pips.
The final person from Billingham is the bloke from Chumbabwamba.
Okay, the main guy?
The main guy.
At least it's the main guy.
At least it's the main guy.
They had like somebody called chips not sausage, didn't they?
Sausage and chips.
Did they?
I think, yeah.
A lot of them have, a lot of those types of bands of that era had like,
comedy in quotes comedy nickname
yeah Chumbar Wamba
what's his name
I don't know who the guy's name is
that actually links Maximal Park
because they're both on the FIFA soundtrack
Chumbabwamba and that
true and Chumbabwamba
the guy from Chumbabwamba
Dan Burt, not bake, no bacon
Dan Burt nor bacon
What did you say?
Sausage and chips
Similar Alice Nutter
Do you remember when one of them
poured a jug of
of iced water over John Prescott?
Oh yes I do remember that
yeah
Did he chin him?
No, he chinned the other guy with a muller, didn't he put an egg on it, hit him with an egg.
That was an amazing time for that type of stuff.
I mean, imagine being, think of the political times in which we now live.
Imagine being so annoyed about the state of politics that you're going to do a protest about John Prescott.
Yeah.
Who's probably politics, some of the most reasonable politics you could ever imagine.
And especially because, like, they were, you know, he would have been.
at the same minor strikes as, for example,
Alice Nutter from the band Chumbabamba.
Yeah.
Well, John Prescott was like the,
this is the guy to give us the kind of left-wing credentials we need
because we're new labour.
Yeah, he was their hardcore kind of,
he was their...
Corbyn's a terrible example, but he was the unionist, funny.
You're a big conian man.
I'm a Conwin, I'm a Conwin-Twitty man.
You're a big Corby man, aren't you?
Yeah, I love him.
Yeah, can't get enough.
It's the organisation that you like, isn't it?
It's the...
Like, he's a little bearer.
All right, let's have a break.
When we come back, I want to talk about a couple of TV shows I've been enjoying.
Oh, good.
The ringing endorsement.
We're back with the Luke Pete show, and it's a Monday, so no batteries until next show.
If you have got a battery, do let us know which one you found.
We actually did a little battery uncovering in this very studio.
Your granddad's radio is in the studio.
Have we told the story about my granddad's radio?
It's not a very big story, but it's a sentimentally important one to me.
Your granddad's got a had a Thorn Consumer Electronics Limited,
made in Taiwan Model 3R. 06.
Ferguson, it's Ferguson, it's Ferguson, branded Ferguson.
Um, is it?
Yeah.
Did Thorn on the...
Oh yeah, Ferguson Radio Star.
Yeah.
Thorn were presumably the consumer electronic brand over the top of that.
But yeah, they did their important and putting together presumably of a beautiful model
3R.06, um, FM and...
Oh, it's not FM, actually.
It's a long wave and medium wave radio.
That's what dates it.
There's no FM on it.
No FM on it.
So, do you feel it's a lot of it?
a nice bit of kit that.
It is a very nice bit of kit, actually.
And we open the back battery.
We should take these batteries out, actually,
because they're not working very well.
It might leak everywhere.
Easy life batteries.
We're doing a live on covering.
Like an Easy Jet branded.
Like an Easy Jet Bandering, Easy Life.
And they've got no...
They've not stood the test of time.
One of them is leaking a little bit,
so I'll probably...
Get it out, yeah.
Get it out there.
It wouldn't be a new player.
So basically the story behind that is that...
And those easy lives have been sent in...
Oh, five, is it?
nine times before.
So,
even a new player.
Yeah,
get rid of him.
The form's gone all crumbly.
So very enjoyable.
On the,
on that aforementioned radio,
so basically,
my granddaughter passed away
in November of last year,
and he was 94,
and he was a great man,
and I was very close to him.
And when I had to go to his house
and do that awful thing
you ever do,
we kind of look through people's possessions
and stuff.
My mum,
he's obviously,
it was her father,
said, you know,
take whatever you want.
Yeah.
We need to keep hold of the stuff we want.
but you know, take something
because you don't take it.
I inherited a candelabra recently.
Did you?
I have no cause to use.
Why did you take it?
I didn't,
it's one of those things.
I'll offer it back to
her family,
my auntie, John,
who died earlier this year.
No,
late last year.
And I'll offer it back,
but I feel like,
I don't need,
what candelabras in 2025?
You kind of want to
take people's,
you know,
bequests,
bequeatings on you
seriously,
because that's,
that's what they wish.
But she specifically said she wanted you to have it.
Yeah, but I do feel like I'm just taking a silver candlelight away from a family.
Yeah.
Well, my ground had left no such possessions to us specifically.
But anyway, that radio, he, so I fell in love of radio and I was about 12 or 13.
I used to listen to it on the clock radio under my bed and used to listen to phone ins and
the football commentaries and that kind of stuff that I've probably talked about in other
places before.
But my ground had that radio.
I cannot remember a time
I didn't have it
Yeah
So I mean it's not even got an FM button on it
So it must be what
Early 80s maybe
They could have
Could have just opted it out
We know what we're good at
It's old though
It's old yeah
And he used to have it on the bathroom
Every single day
When he was shaving in the morning
And I just had an amazing
sentimental attachment to it
When I saw the stuff all piled up
I was like
You can't get rid of that
Yeah
And my mum was like why
I was like, because it's like, this is radio, right?
And I remember him having it in the air and cupboard in this old house.
And I used to go in there.
And he'd always just leave it on.
And I thought to myself, not only is it sentimentally very important to me.
And obviously it's part, you know, it's at least related to the job I do now.
So I want to kind of keep that continuity going.
But I was saying to you, wasn't I, that that's been in like a steamy bathroom for like 40 years.
Yeah.
It still works.
It's literally still works fine.
Yeah.
And it still works fine.
Yeah.
Now, how, if you bought a bit of consumer electronica now, Peter, would you be expected to work in
44 years time?
No, God, no.
God no.
I mean, it says that it's...
Was VHF...
You know what?
I don't think it is pre-FM.
I think VHF, when it says
VHF, it just wasn't branded as...
So VHF stands a very high frequency.
Yeah.
So it must be...
That's what they called.
FM.
Yeah.
Amazing bit of kit anyway.
Lovely bit of kit.
Let's get some batteries in it.
Let's bring it back to life for crying out loud.
So yeah, we get some batteries in it
and we'll have a play around with it
later.
I want to keep it in the studio
because I think it's a nice thing
for people to see.
So you'll see it in the background
of some of these
YouTube videos
and you'll see,
maybe you'll be eagle-eyed
and you'll say,
where's that come from?
I download the schematic
from the Radio Museum.
Definitely do that.
Definitely do that.
Make some modifications.
Because Ferguson,
so that's the thing.
So Ferguson went to the wall,
didn't it?
So my dad used to work for Ferguson.
Yeah.
That was my dad's like,
that was my dad's trade
for whatever it is,
20-something years.
He worked in the factory at Ferguson.
And then that's why we were brought up
to Hayt Thatcher
because their manufacturer.
because their manufacturing policies basically
fucking completely torpedoed all that shit
right so whereas up north it was all the mines and stuff
where we were it was um
that's your milk snatcher yeah it was that but it was also
like manufacturing and stuff like that and i think it was a weird
situation because a lot of the people where i grew up were in the navy
and they all the forces love the tories don't they
because normally they traditionally fund the services
so people loved her for that
but the people who didn't work in the services
was a right old dickhead
my uncle got kicked out of a pub for um
for having a fist fight with a Tory,
either counsellor or MP.
Right.
Yeah.
They,
he told my nan, his mum,
that it was because he got banned
from the pub quiz for being too good at it.
Which is good because he was good at pub quizzes,
to be fair.
Yeah.
Have you seen the,
is it the Crucairn Gazette man?
No.
He,
they,
if your dad is WhatsApp forward-minded,
you will have been forwarded some,
gopping AI shite.
They're the ones I believe
that did the
AI only fills and horses
bollocks.
Oh, I sure that.
You showed me that.
That was fucking weird.
So there's some like...
Proper dystopian shit.
So there's some anti-Kir-Stama
start.
It's been just every...
David Lamy,
Kirstarmer.
They moved on from Dian Abbot,
have they?
I mean, they have to.
They simply have to leave
Diane Abba behind.
They just have to.
Why?
Because she's no longer...
Because she's no longer part of it.
But yeah, Kirstarmer,
this anti-Kastarma AI stuff on YouTube
and they're very, very successful.
What are they called?
I think it's the Krukearn Gazette
and it's a satirical
you know, website slash YouTube page
and it will surprise no one to learn
that the person behind it
who keeps on popping up on GB News
saying that I've got to hide my identity
because people will know who I am
and you can get cancelled
and get in trouble all that stuff
and you know under Kirstama
I'd probably get arrested.
Yeah.
I mean, he's already been arrested for being a key figure in the extreme right labeled
as a neo-Nazi, prolific online troll, proud anti-Semite,
and he, I believe, was arrested for anti-Semitism.
So there we can't.
And now he's out there generating millions of views for the dads.
For the dads everywhere.
So if your dad, is your dad a part of this?
Yeah, my dad's forwarded on a few.
And I said, dad, this is Moribund stuff.
Yeah.
and perpetrated by a man who was inciting racial hatred against Jewish community
and racially aggravated harassment against a Labour MP.
What did your dad say to that?
It's funny, though, isn't it?
He did actually say that.
Were your dad pause for thought if he learned that news?
No.
It'll stop send me them, which makes me happy.
But do you, does it make you pine for when you used to have big rows with him
about sending you low-quality res JPEGs?
Yeah, well, I actually offered him my chat GPD login
sort of good.
Do you want to have a piss about with Sora?
I just think you'd get, because he was,
he was a man of the Photoshop for quite a long time.
He was, yeah.
He loved a Photoshop.
And now Dad's don't even need...
This is the next iteration of that.
This is the next iteration of that.
I was like, Dad, you'll probably have a good time on, Sawra.
Just do a prompt.
You haven't got a...
Be a promptman.
You haven't got to do any cut-out or anything like that.
Do you reckon he would be a promptman?
A happy promptman?
I think so.
But would he do, would he do, like, some politically questionable stuff?
No, I know.
What kind of stuff?
Yeah, I have not seen them do photo.
It would be mainly blocks down the pub,
of which there are very few pictures of them online.
When there's fewer pictures of people online,
it starts off fine, the AI stuff,
but then your face just suddenly changes for no good reason.
I've said to you before,
what I find absolutely fascinating about the kind of AI-generated,
like, artwork stuff.
Yeah.
Is that, like, you genuinely can't trust that they, you know,
say, for example,
we wanted to generate some AI artwork for one of our podcasts,
which we wouldn't do
because we use designers
because we're good eggs like that.
You know, if you did one,
you'd have to look at it really carefully
because sometimes, as I said to you before,
like say you do a generator,
a new kind of, you know,
an AI bit of artwork
for a narrative hard-hitting doc series
or something like that,
you'd have to look really carefully
because sometimes in those AI-generator things
just a little monkey riding the unicycle
in the corner.
Just comes from nowhere.
Yeah.
Like a monkey juggling.
I think you can always tell
what they are nowadays
because the people who make the prompts
and put these stuff out.
They don't edit them tightly enough.
Do you know what I mean?
What's the process, though?
What do you do?
The actor will sort of pause for way too long
and then start their guff.
And then if there's two people in the scene,
the other person will also be mouthing the words,
like a bad actor.
But how is the only funny Fools and Horses one you said?
How does that actually work?
How do they do that?
You literally just type in.
The cast. So you type in the whole scene?
The TV show, the fake, you know,
make me a fake TV show.
where they're talking about Kirstama
and, you know,
there might be more detailed,
sort of,
you can prompt gags and stuff,
but,
um,
yeah,
it's pretty broad,
piss easy stuff.
And that uses loads of energy,
doesn't it?
Yeah.
I mean,
yeah,
I mean,
sort of everything,
but yeah,
it's,
it's,
it's,
because I was reading on the,
uh,
we're basically sending ourselves
into the heat death of the planet
for this kind of shit.
Mm.
Right.
Yeah.
And,
and the,
the big worry is that things like data centers and
all this kind of shit.
I mean,
if you look at the projections of so that open AI need
in terms of data centers and funding and stuff like that,
it's basically like the GDP of quite a sizable country.
Yeah.
I mean, but the thing that will run out before the heat death universe
will be investment.
So the bubble's already bursting.
People are just making stuff up, aren't they?
Yeah, Microsoft, watching Microsoft's quite interesting
because they're putting AI in everything.
Like, even like fucking like note patterns.
The co-pilot thing.
The copilot thing, they try to put in everything and stuff.
But then they're also kind of reducing the amount of money
they think they're going to get from AI and also
just making a couple of noises where they're like,
this bubble is about to burst and it's going to burst hard.
But...
Have you seen that compilation of the stuff
Elon Musk said, like, separated by year?
Right.
About like going to the moon,
based on Mars, self-driving cars,
yeah.
AI.
And he essentially just rehashes the same thing every year.
He should concentrate on getting a new bladder.
You should.
He's on the Kerman, is he?
Yeah, that's famous.
Didn't he sort of famously say that he's having wee-wee-trouble
because of his Ketman use?
That is one of the side effects of heavy ketamine use.
Yeah, I've said before, like, how ketamine's got to be brilliant, I never tried it, but good God.
Do you know...
If your fucking piss bag lining is coming out your cock, like, and you're like, absolutely fine with it.
A bit more ketamine, please.
No, so do you want to...
There's a bit of detail on that specific issue that someone told me once.
I know someone who will remain nameless who used a lot of ketamine.
It's not me.
And when they talk about bladder problems, the way he described it,
I don't know if this is roughly commensurate
of how everyone experiences the problems
but he told me that at a party once
he had passed out at a house party
and he woke up
and because the way he described it was
I couldn't piss
but I couldn't stop myself piss
so basically it was just an endless
really unimpressive waterfall
of piss coming out of his knob
until his bladder emptied
and he had no control to make it go
like a proper piss
but he also couldn't stop it
It was like a sort of dribble.
So it was almost like, you know, say like,
say,
if you think of your,
if you think of your penis and your bladder,
it's like a pressure valve.
So you decide when they go to it for a piss
and it releases the pressure
and you have control over that.
When you don't have control over that,
as soon as the bladder starts spinning up,
it just sort of drips out the bottom like a bucket
with a hole in it.
Yeah.
And that's how you have to deal with,
that's what happens.
Right.
So it's not like,
oh, it's really painful to piss
or I can't piss at all or whatever.
It almost just removes every,
control you've got.
Yeah.
So you basically have to wear nappies.
My velocity of piss.
Our velocity.
Our velocity.
Yeah, exactly.
What do you think about that?
Does that make you not want to do it?
I just think you could just try it a couple of times.
I'm sure you'd be fine.
I mean, I'm not endorsing drug use, but I'm sure.
I'm sure.
I can do it.
Enjoy yourself.
Is that enjoying yourself?
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