The Luke and Pete Show - The Radio Doctor Will See You Now

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

Pete tells Luke about his time volunteering on hospital radio before revealing that he was never given a slot on his university's radio station Demon FM ("music with a sting in its tail"), despite his obvious presenting talent. While we're on the subject, we hear from a listener who called into a local radio station competition and totally embarrassed himself in a bid to win £1000.Elsewhere, we hear yet again from the insatiable Battery Robot, and Ian Holloway pops into the studio for a chat!The Luke and Pete Show only serves up the longest of shrifts, and don't you forget it. To contribute to this travelling jamboree, get in touch here: [e-mail] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the Luca Peach Show. Pete Donaldson with you. I'm joined by Mr. Lukie Moe. Lukie Moe of Passion FM on the South Coast. I'm from Demon FM. Domothi University student radio station where I never actually work for because they're all pieces. But Lukie Moe is here. It's showing all of professionalism. Overlooking a talent of that considerable quality is negligent from Demon FM, I would say. Can I just pick up on one thing if you don't mind, Pete Donaldson? and Passion FM 106.8 was actually based in Northern Hampshire, not the South Coast. I see.

I mean, 1.6.8 FM, that's a pretty decent, if not a little high FM frequency. I mean, I'm fairly, I'm trying to think who would be able to. I don't think Japanese radios could pick you up, but I think maybe North American ones, you'd be right in the middle of the dial, baby. You reckon? Yeah, I think so, because we all have different frequency modulation ranges. doesn't it? Yeah, I think so.

Yeah, you're really quite high on hours. But I think the Japanese might me either a bit higher or a bit lower. So either way, you'd either be right in the middle or off the dial completely. Well, I'm just deeply concerned for prospective passion 106.8 listeners and their radio ratings because if you're going to say South Coast, people are going to be expecting to pick it up on the South Coast. They're not going to be going to be a bit of consternation about that. We found wanting, aren't they? One of the little secret jokes I like about.

people just do nothing, the corrupt FM thing, is that they list their frequency as 108.9, don't they? Which is way high that you can actually go. You only really get that joke if you're a radio person, which I respect. Oh, well, there you go, yeah. The FM on a Japanese radio seems to go from between 76 to 90. You don't even get in the hundreds in Japan.

Wow. We've got no chance. Passion 106, I've got no chance of being big in Japan. Way off, way off, way off in the distance. I wouldn't have thought the student radios, I mean, student radio stations, I mean, going back, when I was, my brief sojourn onto a passion 1 of 6.8 would have been 2001. Yeah.

You're probably not rolling out a student radio station on FM dial. Now, why you're probably just doing digital only, I expect DAB, and that's that, right? Yeah. I mean, you'd imagine that the FM frequencies will be going cheap. Like, you'd be able to each have a little FM frequency because people still have radios and stuff, and FM sort of, you know, pirate radio stations are pretty, easy to set up if you've got the, um, energy requirements required. Um, so I don't know why

they're not allowing FM licences left, right and centre, quite frankly, but there's probably no appetite, because people, you say people have got FM radios, have they really? Who? Uh, I've just picked one up to check the, uh, FM frequencies on a Japanese. Yeah, you've got one in your shed in your, in your position as a noted tech geek and radio man. Right. Okay. Is that really commensurate with like the general public? Most people will have an FM frequency in their car, almost guaranteed they'll still have f if if your car was made post 2015 there's a chance you might not have fm but i think you still will to be quite frank and talk to me about the um talk to me about the demon fm energy did you did you go to interview there did you audition for a show no i saw a friend

had a punk um show with his uh part on on off on off partner which i guess makes um scheduling show is quite difficult when there's been a falling out every second week um and uh There's, and I sort of visited there and, you know, did some sidekick Simon stuff, but they were. Did you really? So your psychic journey started out on Demon FM? 19, yeah. So you did actually get on the airwaves? I sort of did a couple of squeaks and bups.

That was kind of my long and shot of it. But I would say that... And then become your trademark over the year. Student radio is a mixed bag, let's say. Very enthusiastic people. They all think they're going to go on Radio One, but not all they ever do. Well, there was a mixed bag on Passion Mine 6.8 between people like me who kind of loved it

and like sport, because I did a sport show, and then the proper guys who, and listen, I'm not denigrating them. In fact, we're probably going to hear from one of them in a minute in an email or about one of them in an email that we've had in the inbox for ages that is now roughly adjacent to what we're talking about, so we might as well do it, who, I mean, there's this guy, you're going to hear about him in a minute,

called Darren, who, would quite literally get up at like five every morning at university, right? And do the breakfast show on Passion 1.6.8 before going to his lectures from 9. Right. Every day. Is he the fellow who, is he the fellow who used to report pirates in the area? He is. He is.

So he used to make, in his breaks between lectures, I would sometimes see him in the internet cafe because people wouldn't have the internet at their homes then students and he would be reporting um reporting pirate stations he'd heard of an area to he's at the r a b would be r a b wouldn't it would not be offcom do they not sort of deal with that what's the r a b what's rab that's the advertising bureau isn't it that's different would be offcom then yeah and um even then i thought wronging i quite i quite liked him personally i thought he was all right but he was way into his radio way into it and um our friend rory um emailed us about he's called darren scott his

actual name's not darren scott his actual name's darren broadbent right but much like dave clifton he obviously changed his name to a radio adjacent name yeah okay yeah because you know that's a that's a there's a reveal isn't there in mid-morning matters when um um we find out that dave clifton's real name isn't Dave Clifton it's um it's Tom Berringer or something and Alan just goes you changed your name to Dave Clifton and uh yes it's a bit like that that does happen but Rory emails I says hello gents um I was listening to uh an episode recently when you started discussing radio hosts who work under different on-air names as soon as Luke mentioned Darren Scott my ears pricked up Darren Scott I thought surely not that Darren for Mix 96 Buckinghamshire's best mix of

music. Yes. They all have those tag lies, don't they? Yeah, today's, today's favorite music was T.FM up in the northeast back in the day. What's demon FM's? Music with a sting in its tail, of course.

Oh yeah, you said. Yeah. Power FM, where I grew up was, I think, Hampshire's best music mix, maybe. Right, okay. Yeah, it was a, Power FM was very much one of those stations that was very poppy, but at the weekends they'd have some silly sort of

sire sort of stand-up adjacent people doing a bit doing a sort of star turn doing a naughty little shore They led massively They went massively into garage music I remember that Anyway, Roy says

Lo and behold It was indeed Darren and Katie At Breakfast Time Of that fame That name instantly took you back To a decade at a time When I was a fresh-faced 17-year-old clambering into a friend's newly acquired car

In lieu of the Drury School bus And heading to Sixth Form College in Aylesbury Mix 96 was our loyal morning companion, especially during the school run. The highlight of the breakfast show, without a doubt, was the £1,000 minute. The concept was brilliantly simple. Answer 10 questions correctly in 60 seconds, and you'd bag a cool grand. For a group of 17-year-olds in 2014, even just a share of this was a veritable fortune. We fancied ourselves as budding intellectuals, regularly scoring nine or 10 correct answers between us each morning when we listened along.

And boldened, we decided to ring in and try our luck. the station was as gloriously tin pot as you'd imagine a small local outfit to be and over the course of three weeks we managed to get ourselves on there at least five times by timing our calls to perfection as soon as the lines opened there was one small hiccup however technically we were all too young to compete only one of our friends had just turned 18 undeterred the rest of us would gratuitously lower our voices and pretend to be our dads right We never once considered what might happen should one of us actually win and be presented with the enormous check and not clearly be in our early 50s. At one spring morning, it was finally my turn to compete, so we pulled into a Tesco car park near the school, a group of us huddled around our phones.

The 3G signal was weak, but undaunted. I assumed my new identity of my dad, Ian. The quiz began with Darren, the aforementioned Darren Scott at the helm, but it all went downhill from there. the questions that day were impossible. Something about 90s Academy Award red carpet outfits. And Scottish National Parks, leaving me completely stumped. Excuse me. My once sky high confidence evaporated,

and by the end I'd scrape together a pitiful three correct answers. Crestfallen, I feebly thanked Darren and Katie for the chance. Katie, trying her best to be encouraging, said something along the lines of, well, everyone loves a trier. Now, I'm usually mild mannered, but that morning my teenage angst got the better of me without even thinking I snapped back

oh thanks very much little miscondescending there was a there was a stunned silence followed by Darren howling with laughter declaring this was the best thing he'd heard on air recently upon a decade of reflection I couldn't disagree more with Darren and I'm ashamed by what was in fact my condescension

Darren eventually left Mix 96 in 2016 without fanfare according to a report from the Bucks Herald he didn't even announce his final appearance on the show out of not wanting to cause a fuss. After that mortifying morning, I more or less avoided Mix 96 altogether. Now, looking back, I'm strangely regretful. Mix 96 has since been swallowed up by the greatest hits radio brand, meaning that a significant chunk of the Bucks identity from the 90s and 2000s has been lost to the annals of time.

It's been a decade since that fateful quiz, and in the grand tapestry of life, it's a minor stitch, but it stuck with me greatly, so much so that I've never contacted a radio station or podcast ever again. until today. Thanks for jogging my memory. Give it the great work. All the best Rory. Rory. Good email. Little Miss condescending himself. Wow. I mean... I can imagine Darren

finding that funny. I don't think Darren would remember me. Darren comes out brilliantly here, I think, in this story. Yeah. Yeah. He was an all right guy, but he was just very, very radio and he's spoken away on the radio that no one ever speaks in real life. No, that's how you get your job on

you know, Buckingham's just a greatest mix or whatever the hell it was. I mean, so you didn't have the confidence to go into Demon FM and say, listen, guys, here's my CD show real. Is my show real, yeah.

Is my escape tip? Give me a chance right now. No, I think if you had the gumption to get up at, you know, six o'clock on the morning to do a radio show, I mean, fed it was doing it.

I did a bit of, I did a couple weeks of hospital radio. That was an interesting experience. Oh, go on. Tell us about that. It was at Highgate, and everyone was very lovely. It was kind of run by a lad who is,

is also very lovely, big into his plane spotting, so I think that tells its own tale. Why did you elect to do hospital radio out of interest? What stage of your life were you at? I wanted to get into radio, and I was still working at local government, and it was before I did proper work experience at proper station, so I did that for a couple of weeks,

and it sort of ran concurrently with my first bit of cover, I think, sort of, you know, work experience cover. Anyway, and the lad who, sort of ran it was he kind of he was a runner I think for a little while maybe a couple of months at Virgin when it was Virgin's a British radio station run by

well owned by Richard Branson certainly was now it's licensed by another company News International I think and anyway he he'd done like a couple of months of running and he under Chris Evans on the breakfast show who was you know to any one isn't familiar big swinging dick back then

left under a cloud etc etc and he and he had like this grainy photograph of him and Chris Evansy. We don't always show us it to sort of, you know, prove that he was, like, I was just saying to Chris last week, and I was like, why are you saying to Chris last week? It was a lovely bit of that. In the same way that I bring up Hollywood stars of interviews in the past or indie bands,

you know, you grab all of it and you keep all of it. In the same way, I'll tell everyone who I've met that I've got a master's degree. Yep, well, fair, fair. Everyone does that stuff. To be fair, that's a lot harder work than going at the Soho Hotel and eating biscuits and interview in Scarlete Hanson. But I mean, it's, I mean, that's five minutes of work compared to two years. I was thinking I'd rather be going to a lecture.

Until the word, Scott Yen Hansen, and I was like, no, yeah, I'll, I'll do that. All right, fine. Absolutely fine. But would it be, would it be completely kind of, like totally emasculating to spend some time in a professional environment with a woman as beautiful as that and her be so, like, not dismissive of you, but in. instantly forget you as soon as you walk out of the room again. I think that's corded into the... I think anyone who starts thinking that they are remembered, respected. I mean, I think there's a bit of you that would have been,

if I crack the right joke here at the right time, she might remember me. Yeah. Well, she famously, I've told the story before, a Irish journalist, and I used that with the smallest year possible. She'd heard that Scarlett Hansom was potentially pregnant, and she turned up with...

their nappies concealed in her dress. She could pull them out, throw them at Scarley-Hanson and get the shot. Absolutely mental behaviour. Absolutely mental. So I think she probably remembers her, but in the same way, if I piss my pants, if I piss my pants, I've got more chance of being remembered. You've got Tony Hawks pro skater too on down your pants. Exactly, always.

And in my heart, what's that going? Tattooed on your heart. I'm doing the only scarlet. thing. What were you actually doing? Were you just talking to the people who were convalescing? It was just a lot of, there was just like every sort of Tuesday night, it was just a lot of people kind of

are pissing about for about four hours and it was I would be surprised if anyone ever heard that because it was utter shit utter. I mean at least during radio, they're kind of, you know, one

step on the ladder, but hospital radio certainly the way where I was, it was utterly chaotic, frequently offensive. Is there just volunteers who love it because they love it, right? Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, they love it. A bit of camaraderie, bit of friendship. We once got to go, it was in the height of like,

you know, MRSA was like a big problem in hospitals for a long time. I think they've kind of got on top of it a little more, but still not amazingly. But Emma, it was in the middle of like a big MRSA so we didn't go on the wards quite so much to get requests and stuff. but I mean I'm fairly set

because the actual listening stuff isn't like they're not actually wires they're like really old school sort of pipes so the speakers are kind of in the walls and then they pipe the sound like these horrible robbery sort of headsets it's really isn't it really not great

yeah I remember I can remember they still had it at Hazla Hospital and Gospel which is no longer there I think one of my family members was in there I was visiting and I turned up and the headphones looked like stethoscope headphones yes yeah yeah yeah they were really interesting They look like the sort of things

It looks like the sort of things Your Nan used to use to have a shower Connect the two sort of Well you know the things you put on your ears My nan used to have a pair That was like sort of a sort of cream rubber That you would put on the taps As a kind of mix of taps

And it would be It looked very medical And pretty, you know Looks like it belongs inside someone It's not right So yeah I want to say Before we move on

I want to say that There's a lot of amazing people not just in local radio but in student radio as well I was up at University of Cambridge a couple weeks ago Oh here we got

Turn court turning on his original opinions Just because he remembered that he went visited or visited a radio station Our colleague Finn, Pete who

30 under 30 Finn Yeah he boughs you out of stuff most weeks He does saves your embarrassing moments on air Every week Some of my biggest gaffs Some of your own goals and gaffs

he was up on the panel he was up on the panel there and I said I'd go along and support him and the head of Cam FM was there lovely fella like Tilly's so passionate about rodeo so passionate about young people

getting into radio I genuinely felt inspired chatting with him he was so into it and we've had about three or four people at Stack from Cam FM we've come through and learnt a lot from people like him so I think it's worth saying

that you know at its best I mean university not as good as well you're in you got one down next to which is really good there's loads of good stuff out there which teaches young people the basics and gets really channels their passion and that's a really good thing

for us it's been the lifeblood of our business really so we've got to be respectful of that part of it I think yeah I mean if you want to listen to Cam FM right now there's a show called Don't Think Twice it's Ben and Luke which I think is a great name for a show Sub me in

Put me in coach Great chat and great tunes from two best mates Oh that's nice That's nice Don't think twice it's Ben and Luke it doesn't rhyme it sets up so what they've done there

is they've played on the Bob Dylan title but you think it's going to you think it's going to rhyme yeah like don't think twice it's Johnny and Rice or whatever

but it's not yeah do you want to hear some other titles from shows on CAM FM Alex's Hawks don't tell the piss though because it's a good station Alex's Ork's takeover

as in the orks cable yeah nice ear worm that's fine how about a little bit of experimental music on a show called

Paul B York that's great that's great it's good and the shows unlike a lot of radio stations community radio stations all of the shows

seem to sort of just sort of on every day rather than having you know a different I'm serious yeah yeah yeah yeah so well it's got that university it's got that Oxbridge money baby yeah it's what you expect from a red brick

a red brick musical and radio institution right shall we take a short break in chip off for a bit and then come back and then do our thing. Yeah, because I just saw a battery robot clunking around outside and he wants to come in. I don't want you anywhere near us. No, that's not right.

What the hell is that? I don't want you anywhere near us. Oh, that's Blackpool manager, Ian Holloway, isn't it? Oh, you don't want you anywhere near us? He's not Blackpool manager now, is he? Come on. Former Blackpool manager. All right.

Who the hell do you think you are? He's swind in town now, mate. Who the hell do you think you are? Who the hell do you think you are? It's absolutely disgusting. I like the little Lee-Hock. I have no idea that I had an Ian Hall of that. I don't even remember putting these on.

How dare you do that. Love it. Absolutely love it. Right, we'll be back in a second. Terrible time for this to happen, Loki Moore. Someone signed me out with the plumbing Luke and be to your Google document. Unbelievable.

I'm furious. Absolutely infuriating, that is. I'm going to type my little password in here. There's no way you can remember a password, boy. I can't if I don't if I take the old caps lock off You know a lot of people use Shift key to access capital letters

And I've always used Yeah I've always used a double tap of the caps lock And people really have strong opinions About the double tap of the caps lock I've never understood why it's I've never said to me feels like deviant behaviour I'll never touch the caps lock unless it's by accident Really? So you just use you just hold down shift

And go there you go How weird And maybe it's just always been my vibe and my tribe, but I'd just, yeah, people, when they see people doing it, like, what are you doing? No, I'm shift ball the way, baby. Yeah. It feels to admit, CapSlock is a bit kind of old-fashioned now, but it doesn't really exist anymore.

Like a carriage return instead of enter. I mean, when you press Caps lock and you start your sentence, you do have the option to write it all in Caps. I know, which I don't want. I hate that. I hate that. I hate that. Right, where's battery, Daddy?

Is he in? Did you let me in? Yeah, hang on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Battery, that battery robot is here. Hi, battery, robot. He's got a new catchphrase warrior, warrior, warrior. I don't know what it means.

It's a great catchphrase. I hope it's not offensive. I think he's been on the dark web and that's what he's come up with. What's he been up to? Bachelor robot, what have you been up to? Into the Isle of Wight. Oh, nice. What did you do there?

Black and trying. Very nice. Speaking of things, speaking of things that sound that they might be offensive. Ah, ha ha ha. Right,

battery robot, what have we got here? We've got a message from Stephen! And I'm seeing hands and I'm seeing batteries so the batteries are coming back in.

Love it. Dear look at Pete, out of fear of the battery daddy not being satiated, I would like to admit my first battery submission. I work at a school in Bergamo

and came across these batteries while inspecting a thermal temperature reader that we were using for an experiment. They are branded MXD, super alkaline, double air, and I think they may have a chance. I would also like to add

that I was delighted by the mention of Bergamo in a previous episode and particularly by Luke saying that the Maxibon is the best ice cream around, although my wife doesn't agree. It's a crime. They're not available in the UK anymore. All the best, Stephen,

can we don't get Maxibon in the... Because, I mean, them being unable to import, you know, the short distance from France to England, lion-focused ice cream upsets me because I am still on the lookout for the appearance of the Lottie companies

celebrated ice cream coolish which is from Korea that I've still never found I don't know why you can't get Max Spine anymore I love Max Spine anymore for me it's one of the best parts of going on a European holiday and I actually tried to find one when I went on a football break

with Brassel about a year ago but I couldn't find them anywhere to be fair it was November and cold anyway I'm going on a I'm going on a Brassel sanctioned November football break but without Brassel next week

You go to Marseille next week I go to Marseille yeah yeah it was very excited until like you know NUFC.com or any of that's not that's unofficial site but the Newcastle United

website starts telling you about what you can and can't do while you're in Marseille you've got to meet at a certain plaza and you're allowed to drink in the certain plaza and then you've got to go

just myself and I'm just and you're going and you've got to be like basically shuttled kettled in and shuttled to where you need you be and then shuttle back out again and it's going to be a nightmare

it's going to be a nightmare. I love that you've elected to go on your own without even bothering to invite me. Well, there is a spare ticket, but you will have to spend what I spent to get out there, which is an astonishing amount of money. Why can't you pay for that as well? What do you mean? Why can't I pay for that as well? Because it's not, it's hardly Christmas around the corner, is it?

It's hard of Christmas on the corner, isn't it? Oh, okay. Well, you can have the ticket. You can't access it. Thanks. Get in your Volvo. Get yourself one of those little, um, Gilles that you've got to wear to drive in France and get yourself over there for crying

out loud. It's not that far away. Yeah, I can't be asked to drive. I ain't driving. I'm not driving all over to south of France either. Fuck that. Bonjour. Anyway, Maxibon's. Yeah, great, great ice cream. I think if you were to do a Brexit campaign or a kind of Remain campaign where you're like, we're going to go back into the European Union. Yeah. And everyone that votes, yes, back into the European Union gets a free Maxibon. I think people would be up for it. Yeah. Yeah. Fair. Fair, okay. I think that's actually fair, yeah.

Anyway, the battery. MXD super alkaline. Yes. We're on the precipice here. We're on the cusp of a new resurgent battery feature because they are a brand new player. And it's great to have an Italian battery in there.

We are back. It's the battery Robertson, we are back. How does it taste our battery robot? Well, I'll ask him to gobble down. Oh wow, it's hurt in my insides It's gone down the wrong way Oh, poor battery robot He's...

Sounds like you after a Chinese He says I I had like a three-day curry I bought so much curry on Saturday night That I uh... No, Friday night They were still eating it on Sunday evening Brilliant

Absolutely brilliant That's an absolutely must mate in my view That's a must Because it's so much money now That you want to get it feeding you for the best part of a week, I think. Simply have to. But congratulations to Stephen

for that new player. Great stuff. Yeah, great stuff. Yeah, well done. Sarah has got in touch. High looking Pete. Hello, from Atlanta. I am resubmitting these batteries

I sent earlier this year. During the worst work trip in my life. I feel like we need to hear more about that. Yeah, I know. She glosses over that. I opened the remote in my hotel room and found these beauties. Here's hoping these maintenance warehouse batteries

are at least something. Oh, excuse me. Oh, dear. Here's open these maintenance warehouse. batteries are at least something good to come out of that week, Sarah. And he's got some lovely maintenance warehouse batteries. I've don't think I've ever seen these before, Luke. No, a maintenance warehouse, that's presumably some kind of apartment store in the US.

It's got to be like a B&Q or something, isn't it? It's got to be like something that sells car goods and home, stuff for your home. Apparently it's, yeah, apparently it's owned by Home Depot. There we go. Why do Home Depot need a sub-brand? No idea. Anyway, Sarah, I mean, unless it was truly horrific and you don't want to share it in which we understand,

if it's like just general related terrible work hydrax, we need to hear more about your worst work week, trip of your life. If it's like planes, trains and automobiles, then let's hear about it. But sadly, maintenance warehouse, they're not a new player. You're the third person to send those in. And if it's any consolation, I've seen by doing a search that you also sent them in May,

even if you had sent them in in May, you still would have been the third person to send them in. they were sent in in 2023 and 2022 already by Stanton Smith, the fantastic name Stanton Smith and Amy Madre. So you're the third person to send them in, but thank you for doing so, Sarah. And I hope everything's much better for you at work at the moment. Thank you.

Right. Next on to Ben. Hi, I look and Pete. I hope this email finds you well. It does. Hopefully I have a battery entry to recharge the battery daddy, so it lives once more. Insert comedic laugh, Pete.

but more the likely it won't be a new entry and it'll be another nail in its coffin here it is in all its splendour I give you the HW or high watt battery for your consideration many thanks a tired night shift worker and ramble patron member Ben

high watt battery HW 0% mercury 0% cadmium as we like to see does battery robot like mercury and cadmium or not People have a galleon, man. It feeds me, but I shouldn't have too much.

Yeah, nice. Fair enough. A bit like us with the old beer. Yeah, he gets a bit fighty, to be honest. He's got some opinions in his data banks, better left, kind of, you know, wiped from memory. But it's a, sounds like someone needs a racist defrag. They do, yeah. A little, hard, a little control alt delete on his little keypad might sort that out nice.

Yeah, a soft boot. Ben, thank you for your email. you are, I'm afraid, the 27th person to send them to you. So that is a well-trodden path is the high what. But it's still nice to have you taken an interest and I hope that you get a bit of rest after your night shift. I did an impromptu night shift last night with my son. So I had to reschedule this recording because I was too tired to do it.

So feel your pain. When you've dropped a little one at the nursery or whenever he may be that day, do you, can you go straight back to sleep? I've tried. Can't do it. I think I can't go back immediately. Yeah, the Wi-Fi of access to. The Wi-Fi Vaxis too is a bit like that.

So basically, we have a system where if I'm going into the office, I take the boy in on the way. Yeah. And she'll get him ready in the morning. That's it. And we take Marcus out of his night nursery that he lives in. Yeah, I'll get Marcus. So I drop off my son.

Yeah. Pick up Marcus in the night nursery, yeah. Yeah. Shove him on the back of the bike with his little helmet. And we cycle in. no and then on the days when i'm not going to into the office i'll get the boy ready and then the wife i've access to will take him in right and then if it's early because the nursery opens at 730 so and sometimes he wants to walk so take him but after now to walk so sometimes she'll leave

at about seven right okay and then i'll definitely go back to back to bed for a couple hours if i'd need to sometimes i don't need to sometimes i don't feel tired so sometimes i do i don't have a problem i've actually been very fortunate um throughout my life really where i'm actually very good at sleeping whenever I need to, really, generally speaking. So I don't tend to like to sleep in the afternoon because it sends me a little bit, just makes me a little bit overtired because I'm such a good sleeper. Right. So in the morning, if it's pre-kind of work hours, absolutely.

100%. It just feels like a little interruption tonight out of the way, and then you can get back to sleep, yeah. I guess you don't slam coffee like I do soon as I get up, within seconds. I don't drink coffee, no. No. All right then, we'll be back on a Monday. In the meantime, hello at lookingpitchot.com is. our email address for batteries and stuff.

Let's keep this battery feature alive for crying out loud and do spread the rumour that Marcus goes to a night nursery. We'll see on Monday. Bye! See ya.