The Luke and Pete Show - The S.O.B. Show

Episode Date: June 8, 2026

Ok you sonuvab***h, it’s time for half an hour of nonsense. Pete’s bringing tripe, Panera Bread and salty butter to the table.And, in exciting news, Luke’s been in Pete’s neck of the woods to play some golf with a certain Big Man. The course’s proximity to Southend airport prompts some aviation chat. Shoutout to British Airways and their exemplary safety record.Send us your latest stories, questions and comments here: [e-mail] Luke and Pete Show is the sometimes ridiculous, always funny podcast with Luke Moore and Pete Donaldson: two men who have time on their hands and a good idea of how to waste it. Subscribe to get your comedy podcast fix every Monday and Thursday. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Okay, you sons of a bitch is. This is me, I'm Pete Dolson. I'm joined by Mr. Loki Moore. Lukey Murr, how the devil are you doing? You son of a bitch? Son of a bitch. S-O-B?

Your S-O-B. Stad meck and bastard. S-M-B. Son of a bitch. Son of a bitch. Do your best one. Do your best one. I've just righted to windows open.

That's not. That's not ideal. Do your best one? I can't, because of it. windows up because the camera gets too hot. Okay, go and close the window then? Are you want the window open or closed? I want the window open, but I can't be showing son of a bitch.

Yes, you can. Whatever me. There you go. Let me do one. Let me do one. Ready? Whoa, that was quite the journey. Whoa. Let me try one, ready? I'll do a really kind of American, really pissed off one.

Ready? Yeah, yeah. You son of a bitch. You went into the blurtch too much. Like a son of a bitch. Like you're shouting at a tree. Silly. So I do like a camp, a really camp one?

Yeah. Oh, you son of a bitch. Why are they from Cornwall? You son of a bitch. You son of a bitch. That's more like a sort of vocal fry kind of California. Yeah,

there's a bit of campers and out of them, isn't there? You son of a bitch. Why are you talking like that? Interesting. We should start vocal frying. Yeah, I think we should. That was a real big thing around the serial era of podcasts. It was.

Yeah, people were talking about that quite a lot. Do you know who invented the conversational advert in America? Do you know what? Adverts was like, well, when you're homered with kids. Was it the guy who endorsed Subway that then turned out to be a paedophile? It wasn't Jared the paedophile, no. How'd you know his name? It wasn't Jared Big Trouser, no, it wasn't.

Knowing what you know about me, hearing about a man who got given $5 million by the Subway Corporation. It's probably going to be a wrestler. It's going to be... Yeah, I think he's wrestler adjacent. I think January 6, wrestling, Jarrett from Subway, just general sex crimes, they're all kind of related. They're all kind of in that same...

Give me the answer. What was the question? That's the good... That's the Luke and Pete show goal that we come for. That's great. That's great. That was Phil Neville style that was. Make a big point about someone interrupting you then forgetting the question.

Yeah. Welcome to the son of a bitch show. It was Jim from the office. Oh, was it? Yeah, he started doing around about the first couple of scenes of the office. He started doing quite a lot of voiceovers. And he basically invented his own style of kind of like, hey, how are you doing?

I'm your friend. Buy these drugs and all that stuff. So yeah, all that. I bet it worked. Get some Panera bread I've never had Panera blet bread I've been to Panera loads Panera I want some Panera bread

Why is it so nice Why don't people talk about Panera? I had tripe yesterday Oh Okay well listen we need to unpack all of this Do you like to do tripe first or Panera first I had tripe in a nice Italian restaurant And it was

It was about as good as it gets In Intrillo Where were you? Is it Pupo? Pulfo, yeah The one in Soho No not Pau that's Portuguese.

Poppo means octopus in Italian, yeah. Right, no, it's not that one. It's de Colpo or something. It's nowhere I used to live. It was a lot past me old house. It was a whole vibe. There was a sole lady who was getting, it was like sat on a park bench,

and a younger lady was basically looking after her, and she called the police because this woman was just not having a good time, and the police came over, and they were just trying to sort of fit, and I was doing my work, I was at the rest of me, and on a park,

bench and these three policemen were trying to figure out where this woman lived but she was just you know she just she was you know pretty pretty gone um and it was just a really kind of difficult yeah this is kind of what 99 percent of policing is isn't it just helping helping yeah just kind of getting people into the system um so i did not um yeah i mean to be i to be honest halfway through it one of them got bored and just went on his phone it's funny but um but it was a difficult job. She was not given. Did the police officers in question seemed like nice fellas? They did.

They did. Very young. Oh, aren't they young? Aren't they young? Are police officers young these days? Do you know what? When my granddad was, my granddad sadly passed away in hospital about, I remember it was six, seven months ago. And I didn't know when it was. It was 30th of November. Anyway, and there were, I mean, he's

in this particular ward where you know, people are, you know, on palliative care or whatever. Yeah. But there was overspew in that hospital and there were a couple of older people in their he actually did her own room

but in the kind of ward next to it where I overheard one of the staff nurses or the sister or whatever saying that we have got nowhere for these people to go like we yeah

they're effectively fine to go but they're vulnerable yeah and I think a lot of that comes down to the discretion of the staff on the particular ward or whatever yeah

there's just nowhere to go yeah I mean it's really it's actually really sad like there's no there's no there's no kind of thing in place for this to be sorted or people to be looked after. You know, it's the old cliche, isn't it?

The amount of wealth there is in the country, yet there's so many poor people and so many kind of vulnerable people. It's terrible, really. On the, do you want to go, do you want to just pivot back to Panera bread? Crack on, probably for the best. You've never been to Panera?

I've never been to Panera. I don't really know what it is. Italian? So Panera's like, it's almost like a, it's basically like, the way I would describe it would be almost like an American kind of pre-that-does-it-that-does-its-own bread. So you can buy bread in there to take away. Bread shouldn't be the feature.

But it's a cafe. Right, okay. Well, the reason, do you want to know where bread is a feature? I'll tell you why. Because the common ore garden off-the-supermarket shelf bread in the United States is disgracefully poor. It's like, have you not seen, like, I've seen before people taking a slice of American white bread and just rubbing it between their hands and it just crumbles into dust. And it just crumbles into dust. It's, it's big.

It is sugary, dusty nonsense. And it's really, really apparent when you go from here to there. Loads of American food is like great. I actually really love a lot of the culture around American food in certain parts of the US. But places like New Orleans and New York City and large parts of the deep south, some of the best ones I've ever had have been like down Alabama and Georgia and places like that. But what Americans are asked to put up with in terms of the quality of their city? market food, it's just dreadful.

And bread is a really big example of that. So I think a lot of these other places that do kind of a little bit more thoughtful, kind of not quite artisan, but actually decent bread with decent ingredients, do pop up. It's treated as like a luxury rather than just a normal bread. Yeah, there was a place. I mean, to be fair, though, Pete, you can do that here. I mean, there's a few bakeries near where I live where you can buy a loaf of bread for $8 if you want, and it tastes great.

Yeah, but like even supermarket stuff is probably better than stuff, you know, the general stuff. Because you don't really see your mighty whites anymore. Everything's gone a bit brown, a bit seeded. There's a lot of seeds cracking on. We only really have, like, seeded bread in our house. We just got into the habit of it. You're the same? Yeah, we're the same.

Bit of, you know, a bit of blue milk for my daughter. For the bed. For the dads. And like a little bit of oat milk first. So I rarely actually, yeah, I rarely actually have it a bit of white bread. It's delicious when you have it, though, isn't it? It's nice, yeah. It's like eating a pizza base.

By the way, if you can hear my cat in the background, I've moved to, it's actually, I've got to tell you this. So I've moved to a new house. And so I'm now in a house rather than the flat, and it's on a hill. So the back of the house is three stories, and the front of the house is two stories. And the place I record that's right at the top of the house.

And I actually realized that people who listen to Luke and Peachshire regularly will know that back in the day when I recorded the home, one of my cats would always be around, like meows and stuff, which it's right by the back door. I realised the other day that he has obviously seen me recording as quite a nice thing and I think he thinks I'm talking to him

because every time I start recording now he tries to find me I can hear him meow and all around the house now trying to find me I think he's missing our chats which is so funny what's the only one that is can I ask on the bread thing

can I also ask you Peter if you don't mind so on the white bread thing I would say there are certain sandwiches which really suit white bread. I'd say that bacon sandwiches are really good with white bread. But I wanted to know where you stand on the butter versus spread

versus margarine debate. I think margarine gets a bad wrap. I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with it, but we're a butter only house and proper like salty, salty butter. Spreadable butter. You get the spreadable in the tub mixed with the rakesy oil, the olive oil.

Nah, just leave it out. Just leave it out on the side. If you do that, particularly in the summer, and you try and eat it a day too late, my God, it is disgusting. Really?

When it turns. Have you not had the butter turn on your... You must be getting through a lot of it. Never had the chance. Never had the chance. Sarah eats so much butter. When it turns, mate, it is... Vicious.

Yeah, oh yeah, she's a cruel mistress when it turns. Tuplicitous. When she turns, I tell you don't want to be around when she turns. I sometimes make my own garlic butter for garlic bread. garlic red. Do you blanch the garlic first to soften the flavor?

No, not if you're getting the garlic out of a tin. It's absolutely tasty. Oh yeah, you're the lazy garlic guy, aren't you? Lizzie garlic, man, yeah. You even use the lazy garlic when you get Hello Fresh, where they give you a bulb of garlic every delivery. Yeah, but then, Sarah, is of the opinion like you are, that you have to strip the garlic before you put it in the presser.

I reckon, what about this then? I reckon that Hello Fresh might be one of the biggest single purchases of garlic in the UK. Maybe. They put a barb of garlic in every box. Nobody ever use it, though, do they? I just get the lazy garlic. Do you know who the biggest manufacturer of tyres is in the world? Manufacturer of tyres.

Yeah, who makers of tyres in the world. Oh, God. I don't know. Good year? Nope. I'll give you two more guesses. All right. Greatest manufacturer of tyres.

Who would make tyres? Honda? I don't know. Nope. Land sale. Is that a tire? Nope. But the answer is Lego.

What? Oh, yeah. Because they're small. Fuck off. No, they make so many of them. Yeah, I bet they do. Yeah, but I mean, also fuck off. I thought that was a good bit of trivia, Peter.

It's not. It's a trick, is what it is. That's the worst kind of trivia. It makes me feel clever and it makes you feel stupid. Because it's not a tire that we understand. You can sort of say, well, all right, well. It's not a tie you understand. So if your three-year-old daughter says to you, Daddy, what's this?

You're going to go, I don't know. No, I don't understand this concept that you're presented. You know, it's a tire, but it's not a real tire. It can't be used as a tire. It's a, it's an, it's an amateuristic, it's an avaturistic, it's an avaturistic reproduction of one. I might hear what the Lego Space Man thinks about that. It's a joke. It's to him, it's very much a tire.

My son's going for an amazing period at the moment where he wants to play with the, he calls him his blocks, but they're basically duplow Lego. And he wants to play with them before nursery every day. And we get to a certain point where we say, okay, right, now we've got to go to nursery so you can do three more blocks, right?

And this morning it was like, Daddy, I'm making a power truck. It's like, okay. I said, you can do three more blocks and we've got to go to nursery because Daddy's got to go to work. All right, so we count down the blocks. Three, two, one, right?

And he does them. And then he says, right, now, you point at me and pointing at the Wi-Fi have access to is mum you don't touch it and you don't touch it and then this morning he went and no one comes in here no one comes in here okay mate we won't go in the living room we won't touch it and I see him there

almost like this photographic memory ambition of like staring at everything thinking if anyone touches this when I come back I'm going to pull a house down with my rage I mean obviously naturally the first thing you do is but you're thinking about it now Go on get it. Go on get it.

Oh, wait, because the toddlers could just switch and it comes from nowhere. All I did is I just very carefully closed the living room door. Thought I put a sign up. What of a cat? What of a cat? I know. I know. I don't sure remember.

The thing is, they do switch very unpredictably. But you can also distract them with treats and stuff, can't you? So it'll be fine. Nice. Nice. By the way, Peter, I have some reasonably exciting news for you, emphasis on the reasonably. I was in your neck of the woods yesterday. Were you?

I was in Rochford yesterday. Rochford? Why were you in Rochford? How close is that to where you live? Very close. It's where I bought some things in an Airbnb where my daughter's social worker was living for a bit. So I was playing golf at Rochford 100. Why were you playing at Rochford 100?

Guess he plays there. Guess he's a member there? Who? Guess. I don't know. Gary Linneker. Big guy lives near you. Oh, oh, Pav.

Big Shaw Pav. Yeah. How, did he give you short shift on your skills? He was actually very generous with his time and his compliments. Right. We actually ended up all square in a match playing environment, but he gave me a shot a hole because he's off, he's off 14 and I'm off 30.

Right. What time you're down? I could have come. Stinking a trite. I did think that, but you know what? We said we were going to play, and then he said to me quite last minute, Oh, because it's a quite an exclusive golf club,

and he's like, I've only got four, three membership rounds a year. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's the old Tiger Woods isn't allowed on certain courses, is it? Petey Donaldson's not allowed it on Rochford golf course. Oh, is that a golf course today? I was well with me dog. I held up a photo of you at Rochford 100, and they said no professionals.

No professionals, please. No, but basically, it was quite a last-minute thing, and I actually had to get back, because it's so far away from I live. I wasn't going to stop you from leaving. I know you wouldn't. I wasn't going to show you a shoeberry. I wasn't going to show you in Chalkwell. I was sitting in McDonald's in Raleigh on the way back,

and I thought to myself, I should have gone to Pete's house. But by the time I first playing golf, it was right in the middle of like bedtime routine time. And I was like, there's no way you're doing. You've been to McDonald's Raleigh. Did you drive? Yeah.

So you came from Rochford, went back on the arterial. You could have picked up my Wix order from fucking Wix. Sorry, man. If it's any consolation, I will play here again. I will play there again and I'll hit you up but it was great fun and it's great to see Big Pav. The great thing about Pav is right

he is he basically said he was in a business meeting the other week and he saw the guy's phone had he'd left his phone up face up on the desk and he'd been listening to the Ramble right and um and uh Pav said to him oh you're a ramble guy and he's like yeah yeah I love it and he goes

oh yeah I'm and Pab says oh I know a couple of the rambled lads and uh the guy just apparently his face just dropped and he went you're a big Pav, aren't you? But anyway, the big one pav is... He is, and I got this confirmed by the big man yesterday because I was asking him about it, he is 6-4 and almost 130 kilos.

Look, he is... Stop this. Stop this. Not in a World Cup year. You're not allowed. You've got to do stones and pounds. Like, I'm sorry. This has to end.

He's 6-4. Right. And I'll tell you what that makes him in stones and pounds, right? because he had a big unit. What KG did you say he was? Almost 130. 130. It's basically about 20 stone.

He would not be allowed near my glass balustrade because the limit, I think, is... I think it'll take the weight of a 60-kilogram man leaning directly on it, basically. A what, kilogram man? A 60-kilogram man. That's basically no one. That's a child.

That's a child. It's not a child. 60 KG? It's not a child. So you have put together a balustrade. It's like, it's like 10 and a half. 10 and half? 10 and a half.

There's a feature in your house. I think 15mm glass balustrade will take the weight. That's nine stone. The weight, yeah, the waist of a nine stone man. Tell me the last nine stone man you met. But you're not putting all of your weight. You can't put all of your weight on any of it. Like you can't put all of your weight on.

You would have to lay it down, four posture it, and then stand in the middle as a nine stone man. That's the thing. I still, I'm not going to do that. And you had to convert, and yeah, and you had to convert that from 60 to whatever. I did. So it just proves that your 60, it just proves your kilogram. The kilograms don't work.

The drugs don't work. We've been indoctrinated. I, um, listen, I want to put something out there for you as well. There's a reason I mentioned by that. It was great to see him to the big man and he can tank the golf ball court a long way, as you can imagine. Right. But I had a thought, right? You live right near each other.

He said it's about a 10 minute walk from where he lives to where you live. Yeah. He's got a swimming pool in his house Right, okay On these hot summers Get yourself over there Just pop in, go He would love to have you over

I bet he's got a lovely house If you've got a swimming pool I bet he's up near the bellfares or something He's he lives in the posh part What's the posh part called? I don't know, he lives in late I think so yeah There's some pretty boozy parts to be fair

The thing I find is Like a lot of people I know around here who have nice houses. They've Is chalkwell? Is chalkwell a nice bit? Yeah, chockles.

Yeah. Choccal's nice. Got a nice beach. But yeah, you, the, they didn't piss about in London

for 20 years. That's the thing. They didn't piss about. They put their roots down. They made, they made, they made their money work for them and they're in a much better position

than I. I found, what I found really interesting about that part of the world, So Rochstra Golf Club, it's nice. It's got, the clubhouse is a grade one listed building that used to be Anne Berlin's house, which is amazing. Wow.

And it's the only golf club, I think, or golf course in the UK that's got a fully operational church in the middle of it, which is also interesting. Anyway, but I was not, it snakes around the outskirts of South End Airport. Yeah. So the planes basically take off right over your hair, which is quite cool.

I was not prepared, given that I grew up next to, to the sea and maybe it's just been so long that I forgot on or maybe it's just a lot more flat out there because it is much flatter out there and when when I grew up next to the sea we had ports down hill over the back of ports which basically protects you from a lot of the elements and it's so flat out near south end yeah I was not prepared for how windy it was being how salty that wind was yeah so I'd like salt marks on my skin after it fucks up your car it fucks up your car you had all the paint and stuff because of the It's very salty, salty water splashing around, yeah.

Yeah, I was, there was a particularly low flying private jet last night flying over my house. And like, I've gotten used to it, but when I've, like, mates have, like, come around, you know, I remember a guy called Neil, Sarah's mates, came around and came around and came in the garden. And just as an easy jet was coming off, and he shat his pants. Was it? How close is it? How close is it?

You forget how close it is? I mean, like, it's like, you know, Rochford and, you know, Rochester, you know, you know, like, you know where the output is and you know, like, you know, like, you know, where Leoncy, especially Leoncy Station. But they obviously come in right over my house, I'm right under the, under the plan. And it's proper mad. Like, I've got kind of got used to it now, but everybody else goes, fucking hell that plane, I'm saying it's going to crash in your house. And what's the latest in the day they'll fly, and the earliest they'll fly? you'll usually get one about half six and then the

and the latest one I'll be about 11th it's not bad and also I noticed that you don't I mean there's obviously a lot of controversy around people who live under the Heathrow flight path and stuff like that but there's nowhere near there's not that many planes is there oh it's like I think six flights a day in the summer it's mad and then the private jet ones

and then the pleasure flights with the fucking blocks with you know old World War II players yeah I saw for you though they do they do they do the spitifier pleasure flights from the airfield right near my parents' house. Really? Would you ever, now you've got kids, like, would you ever indulge?

Because I'm used to be of the opinions, like, oh, maybe, maybe I could, because sometimes you can, I think I said about it on the shore, you can get on this app that blocks who need to get their air miles up can basically fly you wherever you need to be. Or a guy who'll just like, look, I'm flying up north. I'm flying like near Newcastle, and for 40 quid

which is much like you know four times cheaper than the train and certainly cheaper than the proper plane he'll just take you up there and stuff

nice I don't think I can fit in this bit of fire no but like a two man plane like a little sort of yeah I'll be up for that baby Sesson or something yeah but then you sort of think they're just sort of dangerous

those bloody things yeah those ones can land on land on smaller runaways that's what I was thinking I don't think they're pretty light aren't they so like I mean

apparently I think the real kind of widow maker is the older helicopter, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't fuck with the helicopter, to be honest. I remember a friend of mine was, had a wedding, and it was in one of the Greek islands.

And there was talk that were going to fly a helicopter. They were going to fly in a helicopter over the bay and from the wedding venue to the reception and land and stuff, that was part of it, and they really wanted to do. And another one of our mates who was at the time was a helicopter pilot, was like, yeah, don't do that. do not do that in Greece

do that an incredible amount of paperwork just don't bother I know the FAA guidelines and I know how close they're followed in Greece yeah it's basically that I think statistically I mean you remember that the Leicester City owner my God Leicester City Kobe Bryant

like it's just Colin McCray there's a lot of famous people going in them but it's more than things where I think go, yes, but if it starts to fall, the natural, you know, camber of the blades will, you know, give its own kind of helicopter effect. It never fucking happens, does it? It never happens. People talk about the natural spin of the blades as a helicopter dips. But it never fucking happens. They always die. They always die in a fireball. I mean, I'm very much a novice on this subject, but it doesn't seem to be much opportunity if you get out of there alive.

You've got a massive spinning decapitator on top of it Well, they sort of I mean that should be separate from the cab But I mean they say that like If for whatever reason the engine Cuts out The natural angle of the blades Will mean that it'll naturally spin like a

Like a sycamore seed Or if you call it And spin to the floor And you're like Yeah but never seen it happen That always Always fucks up though, didn't it? That does not seem to be the case

No I would I would be very skeptical. I mean, if you done a fair amount of kind of internal flights in places where a lot of their airlines are kind of banned on the EU airspace and stuff,

like China. No, I did a couple in, one in Kenya and one in South Africa, and they were a bit wonky. There was a Malaysian one, internal one that was a bit like, had a terrible safety record.

It's astonishing that British Airways never killed anyone. Like, for the length that they've been going, They must have done. No, never killed anyone. You've been serious? Yeah.

They've had like hull losses and stuff, I think, but they've never killed anyone. I mean, that is, and you sort of go, right, okay, well, I'm, so I'm flighted to Tokyo. I'll be in Tokyo, I'll be in Tokyo, but the, it's a JAL, Japanese airline, Japanese airways, and it's a, it's a, it's a cord show with British airways, and you're like, well, does the British airways extend the British Airways Never killed anyone extend to JAL I don't believe

Star Alliance Is it the wild The One World Alliance? The One World Alliance So British Airways have never had a crash They've had loads of crashes But they've never killed anyone Which is an incredible

stroke of luck And airmanship Air Force of I'm going through these British Airways Can't go Fatalities There's one fatality here British Airways

By 1-4-9 What? Was it a ground fatality? Did it run it someone on the ground? Doesn't count. Okay. I don't know. I'll have to check later.

Right. Can I just make a point? Can I just make a point about Che Guevara? Where's that come from? Well, because helicopter related. It's helicopter related. Right. Okay. So, Shea Guevara's obviously got the best,

the best last words of any person, right? Right. Do you know them? Frankly, my dear. I don't give a damn. Exactly. Yeah, famously. Yeah.

It was shoot coward You're only killing a man Come on It's good, isn't it? Come on, that's worth being on a t-shirt, isn't it? I'm fairly certain His body was then strapped The bottom of a helicopter

And then flown around for ages So everyone could see that killed him Yeah, yeah You can't see it from high up Maybe they flew light I mean maybe it was like one of those Vietnam War helicopters You're flying with a line

I mean, by the way, By the way, speaking of that, have you ever read a book called Chicken Hawk? No. That is one of fucking the best war memoirs ever. Am I a war memoir kind of guy? No, but, mate, honestly, it's a helicopter pilot in Vietnam. You are cruising for reformed candidate, circa 2035 sunshine. All this war stuff in your head.

The thing with the right-wing stuff, there's money in it. There's money in it. Oh, my phone has been hacked for three years running by a Russian opera. Russian bot. And they've actually got five million pound in my account. Oh, no. Oh, no. In my view, that I would class that under a nice problem to have.

But it's a really good book, honestly. People listen to this, they've read it. They'll completely agree. He's not a traditional kind of, oh, I'm in the war kind of guy. And Vietnam is obviously famous for producing a lot of memoirs that are beautifully written, very poignant, all that kind of stuff. So Chicken Hawk's amazing. It's about a guy who, I think he gets drafted, but he says, oh, I want to be a pilot.

So he goes into helicopter training. And he ends up flying, like, a ridiculous amount of combat missions and surviving. And the reason it's called chicken hawk is because there was the parlance of the time around Vietnam soldiers, like, you're either a hawk, i.e. you weren't scared, or you're a chicken and you were scared. And he was like, I felt like both the whole time. So I'm going to call myself a chicken hawk. Nice.

It's really good. really, really good. Are you allowed to wear glasses on being in wars these days? It's a good question. Like, like, could I be a pilot? Could I learn, could I train to be a pilot? Which the most, one of the most poignant, this is a great little unintentional segue, but one of the most poignant deaths in the first World War was Rudyard Kipling's son,

who, Roger Kippen was obviously a very famous character at the time, very famous kind of person but his son John Kipling was desperate to go into the first world war and get a commission but he couldn't get one because his eyesight was so bad and he convinced Rajad Kipling his father to um to get pull some strings and get him a commission so he finally got him commissioned as a second lieutenant the irish guards and um and he he was only 18 and uh he died on i can't know what battle it was but he died in a battle and the report came back to his family which was he was last seen on this kind of battlefield just frantically searching for his glasses. Oh God, don't say that.

Yeah. Of what use is that to the family? They covered it on the rest of history fairly recently and they were talking about how Ruggard Kipling's work after that was basically all about the deaths of children and grief. And apparently it was really, really, really bad, almost impossible for them to get past really. So there are dangers to wear wearing glasses in a big conflict, Peter. So I would urge caution if you're thinking about signing up. I just think nowadays you can get wraparounds.

Or cleats, lovely, you know. Would you want to have contact or was that too high risk? A too high risk, they'd get grubby in the desert. I imagine I'd be in the desert. What war are you imagining yourself being in? A war of love. A modern war of love. That's nice.

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