The Luke and Pete Show - The Unkillable Soldier

Episode Date: July 9, 2026

On another sweltering day in the UK, Luke and Pete’s weather and air conditioning chat prompts a wider discussion about two-tier systems for the have and have-nots in society more generally, plus so...me tales of burglary. Elsewhere, we return to the subject of war to learn about the most bonkers soldier ever and American Civil War pensions. Finally, it’s listener correspondence time once again. Pete’s been put in an improved barrel, and ants are being destroyed in vast quantities.Send us your latest stories, questions and comments here: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com.The Luke and Pete Show is the sometimes ridiculous, always funny podcast with Luke Moore and Pete Donaldson: two men who have time on their hands and a good idea of how to waste it. Subscribe to get your comedy podcast fix every Monday and Thursday. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Luke and the Peach Show. Pete Donson with you, joined by Mr. Luki. We're in the room. We're in the room. We are in the room. The room where it happens, as I say in Hamilton. How is you, we're not done one in remotely for a little while. How is your little room that you do your records in? Quite simply too hot.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Quite simply too hot. Do you reckon you can retrofit a proper aircon unit into an old house? Yeah, he's just a little hole in the wall to unite the outside one. I think I might do that. I think I might do that. You can upset the French? why? Because the French in particular
Starting point is 00:00:37 have had an incredibly hot summer so far Oh they have that's right And they And there's It's basically a left right debate The left don't want them To the air conditioners to arrive Because it will make the streets
Starting point is 00:00:50 More hotter Yeah I see that So what's opening up now really clearly And it's been happening in lots of areas of society Is it's essentially a Almost a really obvious those who have money and those who don't have money to tier system. Which is hugely problematic, right?
Starting point is 00:01:08 If you think about the idea that, I don't know, something, what's more benign than climate change? It's like plane travel, right? I know plane travel contributes to climate change, but that's a separate point that I'm not making. With plane travel, it's been clear for quite a long time that if you've got money, it's a far more enjoyable experience.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Right. Because you can go lounge, nice free food, chilled out, go straight to the gate, business class or even first class, get off the other end first, and it's a lot more seamless. If you'll go in budget, economy or whatever, these days,
Starting point is 00:01:45 given the amount of flights, the amount of people, the amount of fucking shit you have to put out with, it is dreadful. That's a two-tier system. It'll be the same with Aircon. People will suffer more and more as the climate changes
Starting point is 00:01:55 because the ones with money will just throw money at the problem. What you could do in a really extreme case is you could pay to, completely air-con your house for the next 10 years if you got the money and then when you're fed up of that and it's even hotter you can just upsticks
Starting point is 00:02:10 and buy a big old house up in Scotland where the climate will be much nicer. People who haven't got money they just suffer in the cities and fucking it will cause loads of unnecessary deaths and everyone will suffer really really badly it's so obvious that it's a it's becoming like a proper two-tier have and have not society now and you can
Starting point is 00:02:26 sort of same with you know so many different aspects of society or not I mean private health is another one Public transport, the heat issue is, you know, it's quite a difficult one, I suppose. What are you doing that for? Because it's on the floor. I don't want to tread on it.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Why are you treading anywhere near my banana on the floor? Why is there a banana skill on the floor? To trip you over. Fucking Mario cart all over again. I'll throw it over there then. Yeah, all right. I'll throw it past the camera. Don't throw...
Starting point is 00:02:52 Charlie... That was like fucking 3D, that. If Charlie sees that, you're going to get told off. You know that. Well, maybe you should keep your sweet. little mouth shut. Boy, what were you...
Starting point is 00:03:07 What's it worth? What are we saying? Money and not having money? Money and not having money. Banana skins. Yeah, well, private healthcare. Another one.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Yeah, yeah. I don't think private health care is all that good. Same doctors. George, you know what? I've got recent experience
Starting point is 00:03:22 of it because I pay every month to, basically, cut logs to a shot. I used to get private healthcare on my old job,
Starting point is 00:03:30 and it was a good perk. And I wanted to carry on to maintain the loyalty thing. Right. When I left. So I just started paying it. Yeah. And it's an X amount of money a month.
Starting point is 00:03:38 And since my son was born, I was like, I should probably keep it. Because I've kind of got used to it as an expensive. It's not that expensive. We had to go to a private clinic for my son. And he's fine. It was absolutely fine.
Starting point is 00:03:52 But because it was seen as a non-urgent examination or whatever it was, it was three months on the NHS. And I got the appointment on the Monday. using the private health care. So it does make a difference. Yeah. Well, it does for,
Starting point is 00:04:06 I would say, I think it massively makes a difference on serious issues of certain areas, in certain areas. They put my premiums up because they used it. Oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:04:15 but that's any insurance, isn't it? Yeah, but it's just rude, didn't it? Speaking of insurance, I used to work with, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:20 I used to work at a gambling company. I used to work, as part of my job with HEDA so, I used to work with a lot of professional gamblers. And there was one in particular who, every year,
Starting point is 00:04:32 would run all the data on things like crime, you know, changes to the environment, all this kind of shit, and then work out statistically using numbers whether it was worth him buying house insurance or not. Oh, nice, okay, yeah. Content insurance. I mean, content insurance.
Starting point is 00:04:51 But you have to have certain business insurance for your mortgage, I think, but content's things. I don't think content's insurance as well. I don't know what, if I was in a house, what would you, like, if you're in a house, what would you steal? He was basically saying to me, anything. He was telling me
Starting point is 00:05:02 it's over a beer. He was saying that where he lives it's just the chances of it is so low that it's not worth paying for it
Starting point is 00:05:07 and if they do get in they're gonna Nick probably X amount of stuff this will be this amount money, it's not worth it yeah
Starting point is 00:05:14 I don't really have anything everything I don't have anything valuable you know what I mean like they'd have to carry a lot of stuff out to make
Starting point is 00:05:20 their money back like they don't steal tellies anymore do they they'd steal two laptops one bashed up you know M1 Mac
Starting point is 00:05:28 and a you know it would just be What is they get in the apology cabin, though? I mean, even, like, none of the cameras, like, the camera's shit. My PC's, like, probably worth
Starting point is 00:05:43 a grand, that's it. This is almost like to come and get me plea. Telly, the, the monitor, one monitor is probably worth about 300 quick. Like, there's nothing, I guess that's worth it if you sort of make it,
Starting point is 00:05:53 you know, I would like the excuse to buy more stuff. I know, I know how it used to be done back in the day, because I used to know someone. It was proper tasty. Well, I was told by someone
Starting point is 00:06:07 who had robbed houses that what they used to do is they used to wait for people to obviously be on a holiday. And this is way before social media and stuff, so they weren't checking, like, clip, you know, photos and stuff. It's like the TV show Friends and Neighbors. I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yeah. A bit of rich porn, but, yeah. Okay. What he used to do is he used to get in, you know, get in the house somehow, Find an open door, Jimmy, a fucking window lock or whatever. And they used to, there'd be two of them. And one of them would lay a massive blanket of a bed sheet blanket
Starting point is 00:06:37 in the middle of the living room floor. And anything they saw they liked, into the blanket. Wrap it up. I wrap it up. I did a shoulder. Gone in like five minutes. Yeah. Maximum five minutes.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Right. And that's how you did it. So I guess it's a bit of hit and miss. Yeah. But I guess it depends what your ambition for it is. I got my house broken into and stuff stolen when I was asleep in it. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:57 About 15 years ago. And it was just some Torrague. Smack Eddie, and all he stole was like some painting, which wasn't really worth it in, about 16.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Why did he go for the picture? He was just grabbing, he was a drag guy. He got through an open window, grabbed everything he could find. He stole something like that painting, something like 20, 20 CDs,
Starting point is 00:07:23 right. About 30 DVDs and my girlfriend. That's it. I mean, I guess like if you just go and hit to, you know, a day of, a day worth of drugs to a day worth of drugs, that's going to cover you for a couple of days. Who are they selling them to though? Just like record exchanges and stuff. Yeah, record exchanges.
Starting point is 00:07:42 That used to be a big deal, didn't it? Used to sort of... With those places, this is naive of me, but like cash converters not check the provenance of these places. If you were obviously a drug addict, would they not say we're not buying these? I think they've got it. You see the power tools and stuff. Like, no one's stealing power tools from me. anywhere apart from people's vans. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:01 It's like... Yeah, I find that an interesting grey area. Because surely you've got to say, where do you get that from? What's the provenance of it? Yeah, but then they go, I am a labourer and I have stopped labouring out because I won't a millionaire. I'm no millionaire. Like, what is...
Starting point is 00:08:16 Yeah, why would you not keep a tool? Like, no one sells her tools, do they? You walk in there, straight away, they go, scagged. Skaget, yeah. That guy doesn't look very well. He's got a pot belly, but he's got quite gone to the hairs. Because the young, kind thing to say, because obviously it's not great being addicted to things and, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:33 it's a terrible illness and all the rest of it. Just have a little bit less every time until you're not addicted. That's what I always say. And I ruffle their little scampy hair. Not scampy hair. But if you work in cash... But if you work in cash converters, I'm just seeing this as a purely, from a purely business point of view, you see the people at come and you can do great deals here.
Starting point is 00:08:51 What do you mean? Why? I can lobel all these guys. Oh, yeah, yeah, I guess the whole thing is like, you know, cash converter is sex. And that's how they get you, right? Yeah. It's basically profiting. off suffering, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:09:00 Yeah, well, I wouldn't seek to chin off a little advertiser here and there from cash converters or CEX. I don't pay you out of thousands here, do they? I've heard CEX on radio a little bit. And it's rather upsettingly, they shouldn't be calling a sex. It's C-E-X.
Starting point is 00:09:17 You're being very silly if you think that's sex. That's just stupid. But they are officially calling it sex? They're calling it sex, yeah. In a kind of cynical marketing ploy? Possibly. I think of no good reason why because it's the least sexy place
Starting point is 00:09:32 is, you know, looking at old ram behind a glass pane. Yeah, it's not sexy. Maybe that's the irony of it, though. It's supposed to be like that. It's like a pistache. Yeah. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Peter, on the back at last... The last week, we talked a bit about who each of us would be in, I think... I think it was maybe the second world. What was it the second? Or any war. Right, okay. Any war.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Have you heard the story of Lieutenant General Sir Adrian Paul Gilles. Elaine Carton de War. I mean, obviously I'm against all war stories on the show, so this better be a good one. It is a good one. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:06 But I'm against war stories generally, but unless they're properly, A, old school, and B, amazingly impressive. Right. You don't really get people like this now. Yeah. Right? This guy's obviously some kind of aristocrat. Look at his name. As a senior officer, as a British Army officer,
Starting point is 00:10:21 of Belgian and Irish descent, and was ordered to Victoria Across the highest military declaration awarded for Val. in the face of the enemy in various Commonwealth countries. He served in the Boer War, the First World War and the Second World War, which I think is a good shift. That's a good shift, yeah. He's taken all different types of war in there.
Starting point is 00:10:38 He was shot in the face, head, stomach, groin, ankle, leg, hip, and ear. Blinded in his left eye, survived two plane crashes, tunneled out of a prisoner of war camp, and ripped off his own severely injured fingers when a doctor declined to amputate them. Describe his experience as the First World War, he wrote, frankly, I had enjoyed the war. If you were going to do a war story and listen to one,
Starting point is 00:11:01 would you like it to be a guy who was shot in the face, head, stomach, groin, ankle, leg, hip, and ear? I'm fascinated by ripping his own fingers off, though. Sir Ranan Finz did that, didn't he? Right. So Ranan Finz did that, didn't he? So Renauds got such bad frostbite. I want to say, some kind of polar expedition.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And he was stranded somewhere with no chance of help for a while. Right. And his fingers got frostbitten. Did he shatter it with a... He chopped them off and stuck him on the wall like little ornaments on a little shelf he'd made
Starting point is 00:11:32 like an igloo and was like looking at him every day. Strange stuff. Incredible. Absolutely. So do you have any further reflections on it because you thought you'd be cannon fodder, I think? Yeah, straight in there.
Starting point is 00:11:43 But you wouldn't, back in, being serious, all these people who like nostalgically yearn for a past that never existed always fail to realize that they would be the ones first up against the wall
Starting point is 00:11:56 in this kind of things like whether, pick your period of history whatever period of history you want you know, medieval times yeah you'd be a fucking peasant mate yeah, you've done a terrible life and all that's war you'd be at set over the top to your death
Starting point is 00:12:08 yeah and all the ones who survived all of these kind of different wars and stuff I mean that I'm mostly posh you know Adrian Paul Gisley's Leung Caton de Villa Left-General yeah I know he's Lettern General but you just sort of got that's a long name
Starting point is 00:12:21 which would suggest a certain class wouldn't it? Do you know what I always find interesting Class like that. Class. What I find interesting is that this guy fought in the Boer War, right? But he also lived long enough to hear a Beatles album. Nice.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I like that. Yeah. Isn't it interesting? Didn't die till 63. Wasn't there a guy who... Oh, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. The guy who was there when Lincoln was assassinated was on telly. So in the Ford's theatre, I think, at the age of about five years old.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Whoa. Directly witnessed a Lincoln assassination and then was interviewed on some 1950s chat show. Mad. But it seemed to be some kind of device where the guests on the chat I had to guess the significance of the of the man yeah yeah yeah it's called I've got a secret and this guy he basically I mean he's really old but he piped up and said oh yeah I was there when Lincoln was shot do you know what I thought about that instantly hmm can we prove that yeah okay yeah you claim to be five years old the records would
Starting point is 00:13:15 have been notoriously poor in the 1860s is this something is this a bit you're doing because you're old and no one questions it because when you're old no one really questions you you can say what you want Well, well, there was last year, Harrison Ruffin Tyler was still alive, and he was the last living grandchild of John Tyler. That's right, the 10th U.S. president, who died in 1862.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Yeah, and there are so... It's always just all boys having kids late. Yeah, that's because he was like, was he like in his 80s when he had his final kid or something, and then his son was like that. But, you know, speaking of the old people saying shit to get, to get whatever you want to get
Starting point is 00:13:57 whatever you want to get because no one questions it or a farming through the chopped grandparents generation there were so many people who claimed to have been civil war veterans in a way that like it was impossible to check because the records were so poor
Starting point is 00:14:13 particularly for the Confederates who were defeated because you got a pension you got a good pension right and so the idea being that if you could claim it and no one would actively kind of of disprove it, are you realistically going to keep a fairly
Starting point is 00:14:28 moderate amount of money away from like an old poor man? So the amount of claimants for it but one thing that was really interesting is that the last pension recipient of a Civil War veteran because I think it was passed down to daughters. So if your sons or daughters
Starting point is 00:14:50 so if your father fought in the Civil War was killed, you would get his pension. Right. So you could... Until a certain age? What would the... Like, 100? I think it might have been a life pension
Starting point is 00:15:01 because you were fighting for your country kind of thing. But the last recipient said, do you know, can you guess... Sure your life's ended. How does that work? Like, how does it get passed down? Because basically, so you're a son, your dad goes and fights in the war. Oh, it's your life pension as well.
Starting point is 00:15:16 You get it for life because your father died in the war. I see. There was no breadwinner. Just one generation. Right, I see. Okay. But the last... I think I'm right on saying the last claim for a Civil War pension,
Starting point is 00:15:26 which ended in 1865, the Civil War, the last claim was processed in May of 2020. Ha, ha, I love that. Isn't that crazy? Big fan of that. Yeah. I love all that shit. It's crazy, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:15:39 Brilliant. Really good. Let's take a break, Peter. When we come back, should we do some emails? Let's do some emails. Adverts. It's a World Cup year, so we're a really, really full of them. Was there some good efforts there, was it?
Starting point is 00:15:51 We don't get to see them. We let people behind the cut. We don't get to hear them, we'll see them. Three, three, semicolon, 23, four, that we call them. Full, column. 32. What you're doing? It's when people go in the comments and go, this is where the show starts.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Oh, yeah. Completely ignoring that they are dynamic ads, and you could have no ads, you could have five minutes of ads. It depends on where you are. There's what the... There's what sort of person you are. So, if you're hearing a lot of ads in Stack Podcasts, it's because you're a bad person. It's a value. judgment.
Starting point is 00:16:24 It's because you're easily manipulated. Because you're a sucker. Sluts for commerce. The clever people who don't do what people tell them to do. Yeah, he doesn't get any. They don't get any. No point. Waste of money.
Starting point is 00:16:35 If you've ever heard a rage you guys' song pre-18 years old, we don't play you any because you can't be bought. Because fuck you, you won't do what you tell you. You won't do it tell us. So the idea is that people post in the comments the time the show starts. Yes, even though it's completely different every time. What is the attitude of that? because presumably these people pay for Sky TV
Starting point is 00:16:56 and then they get avids anyway. That you can't pass forward. Yeah, you fast forward all of our ads. I listen to a lot of podcasts. Now, one of my big ones is the old crooked media positive Americas and stuff, right? Now, they're heavy on ads because they're in America and they're in a huge,
Starting point is 00:17:12 they're in a huge jurisdiction, and they can make a decent amount of whack. And, you know, they've got a lot of people, a lot of mouths to feed and all that stuff. But they, I, you just know, It's an ad. You just do. When I see Rory Stewart in a different piece of clothing that he was
Starting point is 00:17:28 wearing earlier on, I know he's going to be yapping about Fuse Energy. He wears some absolutely rum clothes, doesn't it? He wears like almost... Because he's got like desert clothing when he used to live out there. But like some kind of... He wears like narrow jackets and stuff, doesn't he? Yeah. I like it. And
Starting point is 00:17:43 someone pointed out that he looks a bit like a Star Wars character, which I think he does. That's a great compliment, by the way. Yeah. I think... Slight. Men with... Slight silhouettes, but heavy features always look a bit Star Trek-y. Yes. You know what I mean? I think that I quite like Rory Stewart, although he is kind of, it's impossible to imagine him existing in any other country.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Yeah. He's like a very specific product of the system that Britain still has. A social indulgence. Yeah. He's a luxury item. Yeah. A human luxury item. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Nice to have. Yeah. Because like you think of it. about it. Sometimes I listen to him and I think he seems like he'd be an entirely reasonable man. I might have told you this before. When we first started Stack, we did
Starting point is 00:18:32 try and go after Rory Stewart. We wanted to pair him up with a Labor MP and do a little politics like that because we thought he'd be really good and that was around the time when he, I think it might been time when he's in the Labour leadership stuff. Sorry, the Tory leadership stuff, yeah. And I thought he seemed like quite an interesting fella. And so I've always
Starting point is 00:18:47 kind of find him quite interesting. I've read a couple of his books and stuff. All very good stuff, you know. And he writes with the style of a guy who's obviously had a very good education and all that good stuff. And he says stuff that's entirely reasonable. Like he'll sit there because we live in such weird times, he'll sit there and he'll say stuff that is ultimately perfectly understandable. Like I think that Nigel Farage is talking absolute nonsense here. I don't agree with it on a human level. But at the same time, here's why it's just absolute bollocks anyway.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And you think, okay, he's quite a reasonable guy. And then you think he was the personal tutor to Prince's William and Harry. I think I'm right in saying that. I think he was their personal tutor for a while. Interesting. Yeah, and so he said it's quite a weird. And then he cares massively about prisons. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:30 He never starts to talk about prisons. Yeah, he's the one minister who gets given the job and then he was really fucking into it. It's like, you're good on him. Yeah. Good on him. He would say, I've never been more upset and offended than when I saw how we treat our prisoners in this country kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:19:43 It seems like a good guy. Yeah. But he's also mad. Yeah. There's really lot to take in. Anyway, what were we talking about him? Because you talked about adverts. I think you should understand that we are
Starting point is 00:19:52 independent company and we are funded almost entirely by adverts and that's how it goes. I don't mind people complaining but I do mind when they complain in a way that suggests that we are the only people doing this and it's some kind of amazing offensive insults and we have got an option to not hear them. Yeah, we do have an option
Starting point is 00:20:10 which we don't want people to do because we want to hear them because we want to get the money because we need the money. No I mean you have an option to you can turn up to our patron. On ramble. On ramble. We haven't got a patron here though, have we? that's a good idea though yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:20:24 see what you're done listeners why are you complaining anyway emails do the email here from Adam Adam afternoon the Luke and the Pete long term listener but never emailed
Starting point is 00:20:35 I aim to find a worthy battery to submit to the battery daddy one div I have not yet succeeded after the recent podcast regarding Luke's AI attempt to put Pete in a barrel which was atrocious
Starting point is 00:20:44 I felt I felt to urge to give it a go myself please find the attached image and hope it is worth your time all the best Adam Obviously, we, I think we're both broadly anti-image generation on AI, but you have to say he's done a lovely job. It looks decent.
Starting point is 00:21:01 The best compliment I can pay it is it looks. It's given me some nice broad shoulders. It looks exactly what I wanted to get when I did it. And what I like about the, I mean, we share it on the social so people can see it. But what I like about it is it's kept the type of shoes that you would definitely wear? Yes. They're your actual shoes, do you think? I think they probably are, yeah, because that's an archiva red carpet that I would have
Starting point is 00:21:22 been on. It's a shot from the radio awards from the governing body archiever. And does it make you feel like you've missed a trick by not wearing a barrel and a watermelon hat to those awards? I mean I do look very happy. The thing that gets me is that the most I think AI can sometimes feel a little
Starting point is 00:21:38 bit not imposing but quite when you sort of get inside someone and just it's quite exposing. Sex? It's a bit weird to see my legs free of tattoos because I've had tattoos
Starting point is 00:21:53 most of my life now and it's kind of weird quite problematic aren't there as well the cat in the hat what like you can't buy a cat in the hat has that being it course you can buy a Dr. Seuss Dr. Seuss has been cancelled doesn't he
Starting point is 00:22:06 he's not been cancelled it's just he's just been linked to anti-semitic tropes and imagery so you can still go into a shop and buy a cat in the hat book but what's interesting to me is that all it takes for you
Starting point is 00:22:19 to stop being the most woke man earth needs to have a tattoo of that issue which case you go he's not been cancelled because I've decided the answer
Starting point is 00:22:26 I'm just saying he's not been cancelled he's not been cancelled but he comes from a long line of literary quite distasteful imagery based on
Starting point is 00:22:35 caricatures of of the Jews which we obviously do not endorse on this show no but do you regret the tattoo not necessarily
Starting point is 00:22:43 it's a different time wouldn't it I didn't know about that what year did you get the I was like 18 what year did you get the tattoo thick as mint
Starting point is 00:22:49 what year did you get the tattoo 18 So yeah 99. Yeah. Okay. Carry on. Oh,
Starting point is 00:22:57 no, before you carry on, can I just say, I think that the one improvement I would make this AI generated image is there's no holes for the arms.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Uh, I don't think you didn't have holes for arms, did you? Are you going to do if you fall over? I think you just pulled your arms out of the top
Starting point is 00:23:13 Oh, which is even better. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, fine. Yeah, that's right. And I love your little
Starting point is 00:23:18 watermelon on the head with the stocks. You never see those little stocks. You never see them in Japan where they're selling you a watermelon for like 50 quid? I've tried really hard to find the watermen
Starting point is 00:23:26 are big enough so I could get my son to wear it as a pair of pants and I could not find one anywhere. Yeah. You don't get... My wife is saying in the UK... Have you thought that a marrow? Again, not big enough. Consider a marrow, sir.
Starting point is 00:23:37 By the way, what is it... How do you eat a marrow? What's it for? I don't know what's inside it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Is it just a word for a big squash? I guess so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:46 It's just for farmers to show off the size of the thing they've made. Yeah. Like, what's his name? That famous guy, on Instagram well I follow. Gerald Stratford.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Gerald Stratford. You know what I love about him? He loves growing these amazing things. And his Instagram buyer just says, heavy into big veg. Nice. I love it.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Let's have an email from... Patonk Dave. The Patonk Dave. Petonk Dave. Yeah. Hi, looking Pete. Hope life is going well. Listen to Monday show
Starting point is 00:24:14 about Pete's ant invasion and been nodding along in solidarity. I'm currently locked in Mock and be described as the Second Ant World War. We reckon there's an absolute absolutely colossal colony living under our patio. Every crack and hole has ants peeking through. My partner and I actually found ourselves having a genuine conversation
Starting point is 00:24:31 about the morality of killing them recently too. They're not exactly dangerous. They're not spreading plague. They're just unbelievably annoying. Waking up to what looks like 100 tiny six-legged commuters, marching across your kitchen floor isn't ideal. My son is three and a half and even he's fed up with them. Our garden now resembles one of Pablo Escobar's warehouses.
Starting point is 00:24:50 There's so much ant-powder. scattered around the patio that if you flew a drone over, it customs would probably kick the front door in. Then I discovered ant bait stations, when, if you think about it, are absolutely horrific. You put out what is essentially ant nectar. The worker ants think, result! Someone is open and all you can eat buffet.
Starting point is 00:25:07 They excitedly carry it home to the Queen, proudly feeding the entire colony, only to accidentally wipe out everyone that they've ever loved. It sounds morbid, but it's needed at this point. I do find myself being a little bit guilty. Right up to the moment, I find another line of them heading to all the dishwasher like they're invading Normandy. never seen so many of the buggers. What's Pete's solution?
Starting point is 00:25:24 Anyway, I love the show's always, uh, lads. The potonk guy, Dave. Yeah, Dave, once grabbed me the Leon Sorent Carpock. I said, I'm the potonk guy. Yeah. And then we had a quick conversation. You'd think that the ants, as they're sort of coming out from their, whenever they, uh, their underground layers, um, they're dragging sand with you.
Starting point is 00:25:39 So your garden is going to be covered in sand, which is perfect for the potonk guy, isn't it? So it's true. Maybe Dave, they're slowly creating a lovely little patonk state. They're just trying to help you, Dave. Yeah, exactly. I also find it morally difficult because ants are known as being fiercely intelligent, aren't they? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Very complicated. For their size, though, isn't it? It's all relative, isn't it? Very complex environments and societies and stuff. But, you know, it's words you draw the line. I know that Rick Edwards, your friend of mine, refuses to eat octopus. They're too clever. It's not right.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Did you hear my ant fact on the ramble a couple of years ago? Yes, I did. Interesting that one, isn't it? Grandfathers, but no fathers. Yeah. But I can't remember the explanation. They're because the unfertilized eggs become males and the fertilised ones become women.
Starting point is 00:26:26 That's right. That is really good. Women. I've seen ants. Some sexy ones in that film. How does you know when you're looking at and which one is a woman and which one is a male? They are big swinging ant nobbers.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Do they? Do they? Look, we're going to end the show with a lovely little clarification. Okay. Thank you, producer Rory. Producer Rory! The disrespect. Dr. Seuss's racist.
Starting point is 00:26:54 What? Producer Rory. Sorry. Fucking hell. Jesus Christ. Sorry, let me... That's a terrible thing to say. You're about to say, let me do that again.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Let me do that again. No. People need to know what you're like. I've been watching too much World Cup. People need to know... The War Co has said my... The ants... The...
Starting point is 00:27:08 The... Pete Dawes has snort in a line of ants like Ozzie Osborne. And he said he liked it because a couple of them were lady ants. Sorry, Bruno. Bruno's got the most memorable name of the production. stuff because of the brilliant song from the film Enkanto. Do your bit then. You don't talk about Bruno because you call him Rory. Really? I mean, to be fair, Bruno does do so many
Starting point is 00:27:30 clarifications on almost exclusively my content. I should hate him. Human safety net, they call him. I know. Don't disuse his racist stuff. It was about characters of black and Asian people. I can't find anything about him being anti-Semitic. In fact, it seems like he's very much anti-Jewish hate. So, yeah. Fair enough. Um, I don't know you phrase like that he should be he was very much anti-Jewish hate anti-Jewish hate right sorry yeah sorry yeah
Starting point is 00:27:54 anti-j-uh, uh, he was very we hear about the anti-Semites yeah what about the pro-Semites? Would you be more comfortable doing a clarification to your clarification? How long is this is going to go on for? I'm pro-Pead Donaldson
Starting point is 00:28:09 that's what I am. I'm anti everyone else. That's the problem. I don't actually, to be fair, so then we can enjoy the books about that don't have any black or Asian characters in them presumably. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Unless the cat was some kind of Chinese kind of allegory, I don't know. They're bigger than the cats over there, aren't they. So you're basically saying that you can have your cat in the hat tattoo. I can't have a cat and eat it. Because it wasn't a direct stereotype. There's no, yeah. Green eggs and ham. There's no cats being in order. There's no cats being, yeah. There's no, yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:41 If you want to, it's fine. Yeah. It's fine to align yourself with, Peter. I like the idea of there being a big topical debate on a TV show and you just jump in there going, no one's talking about how well he drew cats. Yeah, exactly. What about the cats? Look, in this day and age, in 2026,
Starting point is 00:28:59 the, you know, the anti-Semites are having their day and the sun, I think it's fair to say, and the Jews are in a fucking terrible time. So, let's spread it around, I say. So you want more Dr. Seuss. I want more Dr. Seuss, not less Dr. Seuss. On that note, let's get out of it. And I will once again be absolutely stunned by what you get away.
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