The Luke and Pete Show - The Worst Snack of all Time

Episode Date: December 11, 2025

Pete's been out on the lash again, and you simply will not believe his drunken food of choice. Honestly, you could have a thousand guesses and you'd never get it. In other news this week, Luke is really hitting all the major milestones of middle age by taking up golf, there's some impassioned follow ups from listeners in our great airfryer debate, and the lads also reminisce about time they've spent in Istanbul. Subscribe to join us, and email whenever you like: [e-mail] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to the Luke and Pete show. I'm Pete Donaldson, I'm joined by Mr. Lukie Moore on this fine, summery, summery day. Is it a summary day where you are, Lukie Moore? Are you out of your fucking mind? It's nice and blue, there's blue skies and there's sunshine. Summary day? It's a nice summery day, it's warm. It's a sunny day then.

You can say sunny. It's a summary day from this window on my vantage point. All I can see, blue skies, moss growing in my garden, dog poos. It's a summery day. Dog poos in your, you know what, this is the thing, you're one of those dog poo neighbours, are you? What do you mean? It's in my garden. Yeah, no, but I don't think people want to look out of your garden and see dog poo everywhere.

Well, don't look into my, stay away from my shit. It's not my fault. They've just done one. I've just noticed it, and I'll get to it once I've finished the Luke and Peach Show. You've not left it there for like weeks on it. No, why would anybody do it? Nobody wants that. To fertilise.

To fertilise. I don't think it makes good fertiliser, to be honest. Does it not? No, no, no. Well, because their diets are just dreadful. The stuff I eat them. I don't want that going into a plant. So I think there's a difference for a sunny day and a summery day, given it's the 11th of December today.

All right, fine. We are. Yeah, so I think you can accept that. I will accept that grudgingly. How are you doing? You're all right. I'm all right, thanks. I feel like I haven't seen you properly for a while.

I know. Is it fair? Is it because we, I can't really figure that out really because we did, we must have done shows last week. So we must have seen each other. Was it before, might have been before the Christmas drinks. That's right. It might have been before the Christmas drinks, isn't it?

So that was a week ago? Yes. I mean, ever since I've just been drinking and drinking and drinking. I've been, I've done that. It is the most wonderful time of the year. It is the most wonderful time of the year. Where have I been? I went to a Sunday, went to a stagdo, inexplicably a stag do that happens on a Sunday,

played a bit of golf, played a bit of darks. Just a day thing? Just a day thing, really. I walk, that said, very heavy drinking, a lot of red wine and steak, woke up the next day, and I was hugging a bottle of fuel, hugging a bottle of hule, some chocolate hule. There is a vending machine at Fanchardt Sheet Station that sells hul. And every now and again, I go, maybe it'll be different for the finance pros.

And every down again, I'll go, you know what, I'm kind of hungry, but I don't want a full meal. I'll have one of them. And I think it's going to be different every time, but it never is it never is I mean to me I've never had one

never a drop of fuel has ever passed my lips I feel like when you're drunk that would be horrible yeah no I wouldn't is it thick

is it really thick yeah and I didn't realize I'd bought it I'd bought that and I'd bought it like a giant pack of tic tacks so I woke up

and I'd eat and half the big you know xylitol covered tic ticx and drank an entire bottle of hule And let me tell you, the last couple of days have been spectacular. It's like you've surgically decided with such accuracy how to make your stomach bad.

No, it's just... It's like you're consciously and positively making decisions that you know without question will make your stomach bad. I think it's not my stomach bad. I've made it more efficient if nothing else. It's happening. I think people can relate to being pissed, grabbing a bird. or even chips, cheesy chips or kebab or whatever, chicken, you know, chicken burger, whatever, a bit of fried chicken. That seems to be to be within the parameters of established drunken behaviour.

I don't think, and listen, people can challenge me by emailing in or whatever they want to do to contact me. I don't think I could tell you another person in my life who would choose Tic Tacs and Huell. No, that's, it's, it's... Because you're in London, there's lots of options. No, but yeah, at Fent-Chance Station, there is a burger king in there, and I, I am a big fan of their new Wagyu Burger if we're going to be, you know, talking about stuff that we've been paid to say that. Well, I'm sure if we come and get me, come and get me,

I'm currently rocking a, I'm currently rocking a velocity one, a steering wheel that I'm going to have a play with over Christmas that a mate sent me, so I'm pretty pleased of that. Thank you, thank you to the good people at Turtle Beach. And then I'll pass out on a P-1, which is what I promised to do. Because they'll use it for more times than I will But yeah I had a Wagyu burger

And then I had another Wagyu bag at that last week And I thought you know what I'm not going to have one at 10pm at night I'm not going to have one at 10pm at night I'm going to have a bottle of fuel And half a bottle of chocolate hugh That'll fix me Exactly

Absolutely You looked at that bottle of chocolate hule And you thought that can fix me Were you drunk? How drunk were you out of 10? I will try to fix me I was more jubilant because I'd put in a pretty decent Sean in the darts

and I'd absolutely destroyed everyone at golf so I basically the golf, the mini crazy golf thing you know you've got like normal mini golf and you're like fucking fire around a course but then to like and you get points and stuff and it's this sort of

it's this place in the city where you play mini golf and it's nicely put together there's microchips in the ball so there's no confusion as you get more and more drunk There's no more confusion that you Who's Ball is Who and it's really quite well put together Can't recommend it enough, I don't know what it is What's it called?

Can't remember so we're not advertising that this week Is it called swingers? Could be, could be Swingers? Yeah, Swingers, I've done it. Down in like near the old cheese grater I think Anyway, and I did quite well on that and you have the options of like

sort of just playing it properly but then you can basically shoot for the moon on every hall and like really go for like you know the hundred pointer like And it's a real kind of, like, difficult thing to do. And I was just going for that every time. Didn't get it once, but on the last one I did get it, and that absolutely shot me up the table.

So that means you won because you got such a big point. That's amazing. So the most drunk bit, the actual most drunk bit was that you were most successful. Exactly, pretty much, yeah. There's a lesson in that. There's a lesson in that. How's your golfing golfs getting on? I saw you.

Yeah, it's all right. You look like, you know, like the PGA to a golf video game and stuff. Like, it looks the way, the way you're hitting the ball, or the way that you're basically standing over the ball actually looks proper. I can't speak to how hard you're hitting it or where it's going or anything like, because I don't understand golf.

But the ship at the start looks like golf. So well done, Luke. That's what I'm going for. It looks like golf. I need to look like golf. Sometimes when I smash one at the driving range, I scream, I am golf. I am golf.

Golf is me and I am him. This is some kind of God and Jesus transubstantiation between the Lord. Yeah. I am golf. Golf is me. Yeah, and someone next to me just goes, that shout's going on for ages.

Can you stop it? You putting me off. Make it pithier. Ah, needs my work. Barack Obama, yes we can. I am golf is fine. I have become, I have now taken the next step in the most

predictable middle age man lifestyle arc possible. I mean, I've done the history masters. I'm now moving on to golf. And, well, I only started playing, so I'd never really play. So I'd give you a little bit, background as much background and as much as we can handle with another man who doesn't really care or like

golf right um I'd only ever really played like pitching part of my mates and a few of my mates play golf quite seriously and they're like look you know you should play you'd love it you get outside it's good exercise not too impact just learn just learn how to you know do the do the basics and come and enjoy it with us so I thought you know what one more and I just said you know what I'm going to bloody do it so I booked a couple of books a couple of lessons I've actually got another lesson later today

and after the first lesson the instructor was a nice fellow and he was like, look, this is what you want to do, this, how you do it. Are you not professionals? Not quite. I mean, fucking out. I don't know what I was doing when I first went there.

And he was like, look, you can come see me every three weeks for these, let this bank of lessons, but in between you've got to practice. It's like a musical instrument, right? You can't just not do anything. Right. Otherwise, you're never going to get anywhere. So I was like, okay, fine. So I found the details of a driving range near me.

I'm using the driving range of clubs at the moment because I haven't got my own. I just started work I really loved it I loved it do you know what I love about it I love the solitude and the focus and it's almost

the separation of it you get into one these kind of driving range little booths with 100 balls or whatever and you got all the stats up on the screen so it's quite interesting

to see how well you're doing and you can just really enjoy it and really get into it so I've been down there about five or six times and like I said I've got another lesson later I'm not doing too bad

I've got videos of my as you've seen I've got videos of it so I send those to people who actually know about golf. So I've got quite a few friends who are good at golf. I mean, Big Pav. Big Pav is a great golfer.

Well, Leon, see, behind the tip, we've got a lovely driving range. There we go. You might see him down there, maybe. I mean, Pav hasn't been that encouraging. He said, I said to him, what did you think about this? I just started playing a couple weeks ago. It'd be great to have a round sometime when I'm up to speed. And he replied saying, you addressed the ball like Randall from Monsters Inc.

Right, okay. What does that mean? As in, like... So I think he's like a big, like, weird commonsense. Melian. Randle's the big, is Randall a big monster? Yeah. Right.

I see. That makes sense. Yeah. All right, fine. The other mates have been a little bit more encouraging. So that's been nice. See, it's been good, mate. It's been cool.

I've really enjoyed it. I think it's, um, the Wi-Fi of access to, said to me fairly recently, that you need a hobby. Just get out of the fucking house. Like, you can't work all the time. You know, you need, you need some balance. Yeah. And so I was like, okay, I'm going to try that.

So what I'm going to do is I'm going to get fitted for some clubs, I think, in the next week or so. I can't use that as a Christmas present to myself. Nice. Okay. And then see how I go. Can I carry you? Can I be a caddy? Yeah, absolutely. That'd be brilliant.

I'd love that. And they go, and you go, what shall I do for this? And I go, oh, probably the biggest one. Oh, is the biggest club. Yeah, that's what I need. Always the biggest club. Always the biggest wood. The thing is, with the caddy, I think for me, if I was a good golfer, the

caddy element of it, because I'm always so insistent that I'm right all the time. Right. I think the caddy would just be there for small talk, really. Right. Okay. Hit flasks. Because the caddy would say, look, I've walked the course this morning, position you in now, you've got 150 yards to the pin.

Right. Flag is, you know, six feet on the green to, you know, to the back left. Wind is this. You want to, you know, eight iron. And I'll just go, nah. You've selected. You've selected power drive. Power drive.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, look, it's all good fun. It's a predictable lifestyle art, as I've said. I accept that. One of the things I also, it's very kind of what you said about my swing. to do is having an affair. One of the other things I want to do is have a big affair.

No. Have a big affair with a golf course. Have a big affair of golf course. Yeah, good. But one thing is really interesting to me is that I assumed, and this might tell you a bit more about my personality than anything else, I assumed that people who play golf are all good because, like, you see them going to play golf and they've got their bag in the clubs and they've got their clothes on.

You think, oh, they look like a golf. It's funny, isn't it? Because it's like an outfit for golf, isn't there? Yes. If you go and play football, and you just got your shorts and t-shirt on and you're on your way. There's no way of telling

whether someone's good or not and you don't really think about it. With golf, they dress like they're good at golf. So you expect them all to be good. And then I'm down the driving range and I'm hitting the ball fine. It's fine.

I'm actually all right at it. I can hit it fair amount and I can hit it straight and it doesn't seem to be at the moment that difficult. What is the thing that hurts the most? Is it calluses on your hands? Is it shoulders?

Yeah. Blisters and a bit in the lower back, but you've got to warm up and stuff. But the point I was just going to make was that I was looking around the driving range. Of course, there's some really good players there. People hitting the ball in the way that I'd love to hit it.

And there's some absolute shit back. Yeah. What? Like hitting the floor. I can believe how bad. Yeah. But is it not? And they've got a bag.

They've got all their clothes. But the thing that I don't understand with the driving range is because presumably like you have, you're just all in a row, aren't you? Like a shooting range. And so like, I just thought you wouldn't be able to see what anybody else can do.

You can't account if you can't account if you, you can't account if you, If you, if you're in between shots or you get in a drink of water or whatever, you can see down the line. You obviously can't see behind you. Yeah. And you can also tell to a certain extent you can tell by the sound of the club hitting the ball and where the ball's going. Because you see the ball in your peripheral vision. Sometimes they fucking fly.

There was a guy near me. I was down south and I went to drive and Rajneer where my parents live. And there was a guy there having a lesson. And he was working on really technical stuff. And I was like, that's interesting. You know me, I'm a fucking pervert for all that kind of stuff So I was listening in And when the drought

When the golfers struck to left He was just hitting some balls Fucking hell he's hitting it so far But the balls just disappearing outside Yeah A couple of times he got a little flash thing up on the screen Saying please don't hit this ball out of the range Nice

Because he was going miles He's going so far Literally out of range But there's a geese I actually by the way Actually, one of the best, maddest things I've seen, one of the most impressive things I've seen, I should say, is I was there the other day, and there was a guy next to me, smashing the ball with a driver, right? Which I think is, I don't know enough about it, but I'm pretty sure that's one of the toughest clubs to hit, if not the toughs. I've not even tried it, right?

He's dingin this drive, it sounds really good, it's going miles. I looked over to see who it was, and he had one arm. Oh, okay. So he was doing it all just with his left arm, just absolutely. Would you need to have more of a... You'd have to absolutely whack that, wouldn't you? You'd have to have, like, a full range of motion there, wouldn't you? Yeah, he was his body twist and his...

He's such little control. It was amazing. It was cool. So it's an interesting thing. Pete, you're welcome to join me any time. I'd love to play with you. I could see you get into golf in a kind of phantom of the open kind of way. Yeah, I would say, like, more...

Doesn't practice. Can't really do it. Guess annoyed and disinterested quite easily. well you found some of the open is that um is that movie with mark rylans i think it's based on the book right um about a guy called morris flitcroft up in i think he's from cumber i think he's up in the um lake district and he um he basically uh tries to uh enter the the open right okay it's a true story um and he just basically um declares that he's got no handicap and declares that he's a professional.

And I think because it's all so stuffy and so old-fashioned, the Royal Ancient Golf Club, who kind of, who kind of, you know, what's it called? Like, adjudicate all this stuff. They just think, oh, no one would ever lie. That's fine. And he gets on.

And he gets in it. Nice. I like that a lot. Yeah. Did he sit? And he registers the worst score in, I think, in golfing. Wasn't there, um, wasn't there some guys who, um, who happened to be in, some Austria?

They happened to be in North Korea and they just joined a marathon. They joined like an international kind of like race meat. They were just too random Australian blood. Why is a marathon in North Korea? Like an official one? They always do like sporting events in North Korea, don't they? Like mainly athletics-y sort of stuff. Maybe a little bit like.

Yeah, yeah, hugely. And they do, but they do it like they invite absolutely wrong ones to get involved. And it's mainly just, you know, propaganda for the North Koreans, isn't it, really? You've not been to North Korea? You've been to the DMZ, right? Been the DMZ, I don't. Have you got a principled, have you got a principled objection to going there?

Yeah. I mean, when I first was thinking about it, I was like, and then you, and then you hear people talk and you go, yeah, yeah, shouldn't really go. They shouldn't really go. Because,

because it's really expensive and you're propping up the regime essentially what I'm going. Well, I mean, the second more than the first. You know, I'll piss money at the wall any time. I mean, it doesn't seem...

No, that's what I mean, but the money you're paying is going to a horrendous place. Yeah, and the thing that we didn't... It's the same reason, like, why I didn't go to Tehran. Remember, remember I try to get to go to Tehran and you have to go around

with a fucking guide and stuff and you're like that's just boring in it you don't know what I mean yeah what doesn't that doesn't that basically completely negate the reason for going Yeah

when you go on any sort of tour and to be honest to the DMZ that was an sort of organised tour because you can't really just you know drive up and just have a pork around but yeah

there's an organized too at the DMZ and half the time they were just trying to get you into their oh god what were they trying to sell they was trying to sell us some crap

just constantly taking us into like gift shops of their mates like yeah seen the DMZ, let's go and buy some fucking filigreed tat. When you go to Istanbul,

I realized that when you get into a cab, I went to Istanbul because my friend got married there, his wife was Turkish, and I'd never been, and it was mad. I mean, I know it's not the most out there, you know, exotic location in the world, but to me it was like, this is full. I didn't actually like it

that much, it was way too full on. Right. I liked Cadacoy, the kind of Asian. And that was much more chilled out But anyway, every time you get a cab We would go to a hotel And obviously we'd go down in the morning Or whatever and they'd say, oh, where you're off to, we'd say And they'd be like, oh yeah, we'll get you a cab

So all right, great, thanks, it's really cheap Get a cab, the cab goes about five different places For it takes you to the way you want to get me We actually want to go But it takes you to like It's mates fucking jewellery shop Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah A tourist spot where you have a photo

But some reason it costs you money Basically, everything's a scam At one point You're walking across the bridge over the boss for us And everything's a scam Anyone walks up to you is like trying to get money And so I can imagine it's a little bit like that But it's more just like you're wasting your time

Do you know what I mean? It's like, I can't be honest to bloody Oh, I can't I also couldn't find a hotel room That wasn't a smoking hotel room Which is mad in 20 years ago Yeah, I stayed in a very rough Airbnb in Istanbul I was doing one of those things where

I used to I used to sort of fly out on Friday morning and then come back Sunday morning and do my show in the afternoon a little solo trip and going to and coming I think like a how long Istanbul?

Three and a half hours like getting like a 6am flight three and a half hours on like a Ryan Air and Easy Jet you're like this could be this could be fraught with not getting to do my radio show this afternoon

but it was a nice enjoy the danger of it though you must enjoy enjoy the danger of it yeah but just rolling around Istanbul and yeah I did stay in it they sell a lot of chestnuts I just remember there was a lot of there was a lot of options for nice warm chestnuts

the sort of thing you look at the wedding I went to by the way was not actually that nice the Turkish wedding I went to was amazing yeah I bet it was it's such a good party brilliant yeah food's amazing luckily the lady that my friend married she

runs, I think quite a nice hotel in London now, but at the time she was working for, I think I'm what I told Marcus about this. I can't remember if I'd told you guys, but it was a really, that famous, really nice, famous hotel in Istanbul, overlooking the river. Massive old, I think it's like a massive old, like Ottoman Empire type building or something. And she was working, she had been working there, so she got, she got married there, and it was fucking amazing. Yeah. And the wedding just went on and on and on. But we wrapped our hand in about 5 a.m. Yeah.

to go to sleep and people were still partying there were people like dancing all night it was really good but a mad place absolutely mad place but i went to catacoy over the other side over the other side it felt like a totally different place we went to um just hang around some coffee shops and have a little wonder um i went to the fenabache stadium as well that's that's over um that side and there was a bit more it was a bit more um kind of sedate but the one thing i always remember is in the main square. Is it Taxim Square? So what's called? So, you know, this is a really weird thing to say, but hopefully you know where I'm coming

from. When you would go to Glastonbury and say one big artist is playing on one stage and then there's another big artist playing and then stage down the road or whatever and everyone's flooding from one part to another at the same time. So you're basically stuck together and the ebbs and flows and it's kind of, if you're not, if you're small or not particularly strong or whatever, or old or something, it's quite horrible. Yes, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's quite horrible anyway, but you know what I mean. Happened to me when in 1998 in Glastonbury when I was going from watching the

England-Columbia game, which they showed on the big screen, to watch some artist. And it was, it was like a crush, basically, not really bad one, but like a crush, nevertheless. That was happening during the day in Taxim Square, just because the amount of people that were there. Yeah, those little kind of, like, all that area, like, where it goes off to just loads of little sort of indoor markets and stuff and outdoor markets and outdoor markets. And you're just like, those things are like, I don't know how I'm supposed to get to where I need to be because the flow of traffic is just in one direction.

You've got to go with the flow, you literally got to go with the flow, yeah. It's mad. The Grand Bazaar was good as well. Little little where Istanbul kind of travel update, yeah, Peter. A little bit of, I like the blue mosques. One of the few mosques I've actually been, being into. My dad, whenever there's an open day at the mosque, my dad, I was caught in Harleyville in the Brumdress Mosque.

He always has a pork around. It's like, Dad, it's always going to be the same. Why do you keep going? They've not updated it. It's not new, there's not a new ride. It's great bit community outreach from the old man. It is. Great community right.

They're a hell of a mosque. They're the ones that, whenever anything, like shit happens in Hartlepool. They're always out there with food and stuff for everybody. They're a hell of a community. Right. Should we take a shot at break? Then come back with some bloody, bloody news. News?

Emails. Why not? Emails. Batteries. That raise. We're back with the Luke and Peach. How the Devil are you doing? We haven't got any batteries

this week, unfortunately. So the battery robot has been rested. He basically is preparing for Christmas. He's got, his belly is full of batteries and he's just waiting to sort of poo them out so you can have some more batteries for Christmas. So that's why the battery robot's not there.

But we do have some emails and we're going to kick things off. Yeah, we do. And I would also say last time we were short of batteries, the community really stepped up. So we're hoping for the same. It's fine to give a little rest over the Christmas period, you know. I know there's a cost of living crisis. I know that people aren't buying as many batteries as they used to. But if you do see one, you think we're like, get in touch,

hello at LungPetra.com. We're going to come roaring back after Christmas surely. We're going to start 2026. Right. People are going to get Christmas presents full of batteries. She's going to be absolutely bonzer. It's going to be a bumper bonzer. And you got remember, people are, people are making batteries all the time. You know, people are making new stuff all the time. They probably are. Can I, before you get into the emails, I just want to give a little primar. Sometimes we inadvertently hit on a subject where people are compelled to email in in their droves, and it's never what you expect. And sometimes we'll talk about a subject, which I think is really fascinating. Like, for example, Istanbul we just talked about, right, off the top of our heads just chatting about going there.

You'd think, oh, maybe a lot of people have got some, you know, some great stories about visiting Istanbul on holiday, or maybe there's some Turkish listeners or whatever. And invariably, you won't hear anything. And then, for some reason, you and I will have an impromptu argument across a couple of minutes about air friars and you get bombarded. And that's what's happening. I've chosen two emails about air friars of the many we got. Your head is in the air friars, mate. You're in big trouble. People are passionate about air friars in a way that I didn't fully understand.

I thought this was a thing about three years ago and that was it. But people are still into it. No. And again, new air friars are coming out all the time. different designs, larger trays, almost to the size of being pretty much an oven. The amount of these emails that say, after your chat about air friars, I had to email in. Yeah, I felt compelled. I was compelled to email in.

So we start with Chris and Wilcher's one. Why not? Hi, both on the air friar thing. I agree with Pete. Backfired. I agree. I agree with Pete. After listening to.

to the air fryer bashing in the 8th December episode, I felt compelled to email. While I would never bake cakes in the air friar, that is absolutely demented behavior. Can you do that? It's a small oven. Imagine anything you do in a small oven. You probably claimed last time that you can do that, right?

You can. You will be able to do that. Small cakes, fine. But yeah, I've listened to the air fry bashing in the 8th September episode. I would never bet cakes in the air friar. It definitely has its place. It does use less energy because the small space is being heated to cook things. it's quicker, and the best roast potatoes I've eaten to date have been air-fried. I've also shoved whole chickens in, and it comes out great.

An emergency wedges and fish-finger dinner for the kids is done in 10 minutes, and if you clean it out straight away, it's way easy to maintain than the oven. Also, good, grab some salmon with capers and a little bit of oil, and it's done 8 to 10 minutes, lovely stuff. It's great to have it there, to bolster your armoury if you're entertaining a lot of people, as even Luke's two ovens will fill up. quickly when you have loads of people around. Only downside is the worktop space it takes up,

so we had a shuffle around, so it has a space in a cupboard. Go on, Luke, give it a go. Go on, go on. All the best, Chris from Wiltshire. It's a great email. First of all, I don't ever have anyone over here, so it doesn't matter.

The oven, the double oven for me comes into handy because my wife likes to bake, particularly this time of year, and you need a separate oven for that, really, because otherwise it gets the dinner time. You can't cook your dinner because there's cakes in there. So that works for us. It's not really for guests, of which we have none.

It's like Jack Spratt. Jack Spratt would eat no meat and his wife would eat no. No, Jack Sprat would eat no fat. His wife would eat no meat. Right. Okay, nice. So. Unpresumably the wife in this scenario.

Yeah, pretty much. That's how that one. But I just don't ever see myself buying one. I just feel like it's complicating. It's basically addressing a problem that I don't feel like I'm experiencing. Right. Okay. I mean, I just feel like with kids' dinners,

it's just great to just bang, like Chris and Muncher was saying, it's just really easy to just bash something in there, like bashing a couple of things in there. What did you put in there for your kid then? Well, Fish Fingers is a big one. If we've got some, on the rare occasion, we've got some sweet potatoes in the house. I'll chop some of them up and bang them in there.

Same with potatoes. If you just want to make some quick kind of quite healthy, sort of crisps or chips with no salt, no oil. Just slice up some potatoes, put them in there. How do they cook with no oil then? It's just a very, well, you can imagine what oil. It's a convection oven in, is it? You can imagine what oil does, right?

Oil is just really, really hot, very, very close to the food itself. And so presumably, a really powerful fan and really, really hot element that's pushing hot air onto the food, similar vibes. It just very, it just gets a lot hotter than an oven very quickly. and you're just able to sort of cook stuff on the hoof a bit more. It's great for Hello Fresh if you want to do, because Hello Fresh is usually just like,

when they've run out of ideas for you to do, just go, oh, chips, some chips. And if you want to put some rosemary or some kind of like spice on the top, that's absolutely fine too. But yeah, I mean, a lot of them is just like wedges, chips, and all that stuff can go in the air friar while you can concentrate on the hob with the salmon and stuff.

I have to be following the instructions, though. I think if you've done more than ten, 10 Hello Fresh ingredients. You can get the ingredients in front of you and you know exactly what you've got to do with them. It's always, you're making a roo, then you're putting some cream in there. No one's making a roo in Hello Fresh.

Where's that come from? They always say you've made a roo, bit of butter, bit of flour. It's a roo. It's a roo. I've never ordered the Hello Fresh, which is involving a roo. They tell you, they tell you,

well done, you've made. Well done. They say, put a bit of flour in here, put a bit of butter in here. congratulations you've made a roux. They're congratulating you for making you a simple roo. That's patronising. That is patronising.

Because they say it's about convenience, but maybe that makes me think they're just targeting people who are rubbish at cooking. Yeah, possibly. But it has made me more confident. Well, certainly with like, I had a bit of fetter cheese yesterday and tomatoes. And I was just pissing about finding stuff that I've got and chucking in there. I noticed that... Bit of Yuzu, a bit of mirrorin.

Lovely. It's great when you've got some leftovers, you can just chuck them together. But I noticed with Hello Fresh Way back in the day, they would always call the feta cheese Greek salad cheese presumably because they weren't able to call it feta because you have to do some

probably have to do some kind of process for it to literally be feta. Yeah, unofficial feta cheese that's a low point in it. There's like EU regulations around certain types of food that have in certain areas. You can't call

I guess you can't call the big one was the weirdly enough the big one was the Arbroth Smoky. Have you heard of that? Oh no, I didn't know that. What's an Arbroath smoky? So an Arbroth Smokey.

is like a very historic Scottish It's basically I think a dried haddock Right That they salt in a certain way Over these barrels And I think a lot of

People were claiming That they were selling Arbroath smokies Right And I think the EU came in Stamped their authority down and said You can't call it that Unless you're in Arbroth And you're smoking it in a certain way

Because otherwise you are essentially I guess it's like I guess it's like a weird, like, version of, like, an intellectual property situation. Okay. So, and it's the same with certain cheeses, isn't it?

Like, you can't say you're having a lovely Red Lester or whatever. Yeah. I think you might have to say it's red Lester style or something like that. Do you not think that it's, because when you call it a smoky, I'm thinking of the, like,

the West African, um, uh, sheep head. So, like, what's that? Have you,

you never seen, uh, you occasionally see them in some rough, or, certainly used to before, you know, trading standards and food safety people got involved. But you should see them every now and again

in London. It was just basically just, they get a blowtorch on the head of a sheep or a goat. They just sell them. They're very unappetit. They're very unappetizing thing. When was that? I've never seen that. Back in, like, when I first went out of London, you'd see them in, in shitty, but it's like sort of shitty butchers.

But, yeah, they're high... They're highly... They're highly illegal, because brains and stuff. Yeah, I imagine that would be pretty, needs to be regular. Listen, take the nervous system off. We've got a lot of red tape in this country, but perhaps that is one area where we should be. If you're taking a blowtorch to a goat head and instead of it,

you've got to take, you've got to make sure you're getting that right, I would say. Yeah, if I walk into a butcher, trying to buy something, or maybe even just browsing for ideas, and I see the butcher blowtorching a sheep's head, immediately I'm saying, what you're doing? What are you doing?

What you're playing at? Yeah. You got to have the right. don't have the right. You don't have the right for this. Right. Anyway. Let's get out of here. We've been, Luke and Pete, and we'll be back on Monday. We are heartily towards Christmas. Have a nice weekend.

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