The Luke and Pete Show - This is your brain on Karate Kid III

Episode Date: September 19, 2021

Welcome back to another episode of The Luke and Pete Show! On today's instalment, Luke watches a classic film with his Grandad, while Pete spends yet more of his time emailing listeners privately about gibbons.There's also POG, the true benefit of sheep eating only grass, and the remarkable ability of both of our protagonists for spilling food down their respective shirts. Get in touch with us! We love hearing from you! [e-mail] is the destination. Stay frosty! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

People can look in and we can look out. Welcome to the Luke and Pete Show. It is Monday and I do hope you are in fine fettle, ladies and gentlemen and everyone else. It's Luke Moe's birthday. Happy birthday, mate. Thanks. Happy birthday to you. You belong in a zoo.

You look like a monkey and you smell like one too. All correct. All correct. Spot on. Spot on. Thanks very much. Yeah. Lukey Moore.

How is there like even at my tender 40 years, I still get a little bit of pep in my step when it's my birthday I don't know why it's weird people are a little bit nicer to you

you occasionally get presents yeah yeah I mean people your partners are nicer to you um yeah it's kind of

interesting I keep I find myself in a position where I keep forgetting and people keep reminding me yeah so like the days leading up to it, people will be like, oh, it's this and it's that.

Who's saying that? Well, I went to see my parents last weekend. And I obviously spend quite a lot of time with my wife that I have access to. And she mentions it. And then you obviously didn't spend any time with the partner you have access to because she was working away last weekend. So if that was the situation I would have been in

I guess I wouldn't have had anyone to remind me but anyway, everyone has been very nice it's great, I'm 41 now you know I don't really know what else to say apart from the fact that I got a nice little trip from my lovely wife

I'm going to go to Belgium for a week and see Nick Cave Oh you meant to trip over, like push you over or something? No, no. Birthday bumps action. She booked us a trip to go to Belgium.

Nick Cave? Yeah, at an open air concert. Oh, that sounds bloody great. What part of Belgium? It's just outside. Antwerp, Ghent, Brussels. And then we're going to Bruges after. Nice.

That's going to be good. Oh, you're going to have a lovely time. Fantastic. I celebrated my birthday weekend just gone by, like I say, going to Bruges after nice lovely old job you're going to have a lovely time fantastic I celebrated my birthday weekend just gone by like I say going to visit my parents

and I did what I think was a great idea at the time and I still look back at it as a great idea I celebrated by watching Karate Kid 3

with my grandad Karate Kid 3 who will be 90 in November he'd never seen Karate Kid 3 had he wait had he seen the first no and with my grandad. Karate Kid 3. Who will be 90 in November. He'd never seen Karate Kid 3. Had he... Wait, had he seen the first... No.

Not the vintage start that he needs, really, for the Karate Kid... No. But there's one of the great things about my grandad, and there are many great things. Did he say, it's going to be a bloodbath? No.

But he is up for watching any film. So even now, he still goes to the cinema on his own. Cracking. So I remember him like... That's great stuff, that. I remember like 10 years ago, that he just randomly, of an afternoon,

went to go and watch Hot Fuzz at the cinema on his own. I like it. And he said it was too noisy, he didn't like it. But Karate Kid 3, it was an experience. We both enjoyed it. I'd seen it before. I don't remember. What generation of Karate Kid?

Was this in the noughties, in the eighties, the third Karate Kid was this in the noughties in the eighties the third Karate Kid film I can't remember let me tell you so the first one comes out I think 84 yeah

and then everyone's into Karate then aren't they I'm not fucking looking this up it's my birthday the first one's 84 the second one

will probably be a couple years after that Karate Kid part 3 which is relevant to our interest today is 89 I think and it's a very

quick pricey Karate Kid the first one Daniel LaRusso played by Ralph Macchio or Macchio moves from New York or New Jersey

or something to San Fernando Valley in California or LA around there and he gets bullied so Mr Miyagi takes him in

takes on the bullies wins the All Valley Karate Championship that's part one part two is a bit sketchy in my mind but he he goes to Japan with Mr. Miyagi. So Mr. Miyagi's from Okinawa, I think. They go to Okinawa together.

It's always when they run out of ideas, go to Japan. Go to Japan. Yeah, like corrupt, FM. And I'm going to say, Peter, I'm going to say that he goes to Japan with Mr. Miyagi. He falls in love with a Japanese girl who's probably got a Japanese boyfriend already. Right. And there's some kind of dust up. Yes.

Right. Okay. Number three is where it gets really interesting. Robots. Because number, yeah, number three is set in 2124. Yeah.

And karate is only performed now by cyborgs. Daniel LaRusso has to take them on. No, number three is where like Daniel has to befriends a guy

called Terry Silver. Terry Silver. He's got a ponytail. Nice. And he thinks he's his friend but clearly he's not

his fucking friend. He's got a ponytail. Evil. Evil. And it turns out that Terry Silver is a friend of John Kreese, who was the original trainer from Cobra Kai in the original time.

Right. And they all teamed together with this young guy who's hard, he's got a flat top, called Mike Barnes, who's around Daniel LaRusso. His children would grow up in him. It's kind of mad how, and I'll say this to my granddad, it's kind of mad how much those three men hate Daniel LaRusso

for no real reasonable reason no there's no reason like he's held a vendetta for a long time for a kid yeah John Kreese

and it's the kind of behaviour you would expect from a karate man wouldn't you yeah hold a grudge John Kreese basically Pete hates

a young man because he beat one of his fighters in a karate competition five years ago. Yeah. And he did it fair means, not foul. Yeah.

So he's got no problem. He should have no issue with this guy. He should have no truck with him. I fully understand that no one at the Cobra Kai dojo had seen the crane before, but it's a legitimate move. It's a legitimate move. Anyway, the intensity that Terry Silver, a 40-year-old man, John Kreese, like a 50-year-old Vietnam veteran,

and Mike Barnes... You'd think he'd have bigger fights to battle, really, than a Vietnam veteran. Yeah. Unemployment, mental health issues. But no, could have taken out a little kid. It's not cheap running a dojo. It's not cheap running a dojo.

I've said that so many times. And Mike Barnes is the ultimate kid in the year above who's harder than you as well. And anyway, so they hate Daniel LaRusso, but to the point where they snap his bonsai tree in half, all sorts goes on. That's not a manly thing to do, is it? I'm going to snap it.

There is an amazing scene which is so scarcely believable, even probably at the time that it's hard to get through it yeah and it's where so

the big reveal that Terry Silver and John Kreese are in cahoots Terry Silver sounds like a bloke who sells video tips in the pub

and then Mike Barnes comes out and he's obviously the guy that Daniel Roach is going to have to fight in the All Valley Karate Championship

and they're in again guy that Daniel Russo is going to have to fight in the All Valley Karate Championship. Yeah. And they're in the, again, a deserted dojo. Yeah. Which is probably an absolute drain on the family resources.

Tatami mats, as far as the eye can see. Yeah. And mirrors everywhere. Anyway, they corner Daniel Russo trying to injure him

ahead of the All Valley Karate Championships. Yeah. And he gets beaten up, right? I mean, because he gets three people. And Daniel LaRusso's an absolute pipe cleaner of a bloke anyway.

He's not got... I mean, the five years since part one, he's not really filled out. No, right. You'd think he would have done. Because, I mean, for me, between the ages of 15 and 20, we're quite horrific.

So, anyway, he gets beaten up by the three. But then Mr Miyagi turns up, right? Yeah. So what happens is... With a gun well it's mad because Daniel LaRusso gets chucked out

of the dojo so the final coup de grace in the beating up of him is that Mike Barnes Chuck and Terry Silver Barnes and Silver removal men

yeah chuck Daniel out out of the dojo through the doors and then they change their mind and say Mike actually we haven't finished him yet

go and get him so Mike Barnes runs after him so it's still a bit of fighting them they still sort of haven't destroyed him completely

the next thing that's happened is that Mike Barnes has come flying through the double doors with the force of a fucking hurricane right

and on a heap on the floor the doors are splintered it's fucking Mr. Miyagi who's turned up what? so Mr. Miyagi who's turned up. What? But Mr. Miyagi, with the greatest of respect,

I think the actor that plays him has sadly passed away now, so God rest him, is a five foot two, 75 year old man. Yeah. Now I know... That he's got magical powers.

Karate is a fucking great thing. Yeah. He beats all of them up. Right. And I just... Because he's Mr. Miyagi. One of them men, Terry Silver ends up

with a pot of paint on his head. That's not part of karate. Well because he's Mr Miyagi one of them Terry Silver ends up with a pot of paint on his head that's not part of karate well he pushes him into a mirror and then there's a pot of paint that's where I keep my paint

open pot of paint on top of a door that's where I keep my pot of paint in a completely white dojo was Mr Miyagi the guy who gave

the young lad in Gremlins Gizmo was that the same actor it could well be for some reason he inhabits the same part it's Pat Morita right The young lad in Gremlins, Gizmo. Was that the same actor? It could well be, yeah. For some reason, he inhabits the same part. It's Pat Morita, right?

Right, okay, yeah. He sadly passed away in 2005. I mean, it's possible he was in Gremlins. For some reason, that's in my head. But why would you take such a similar role, this kind of teacher, this old Japanese teacher guy? I don't think it is him. Right, okay. Sadly. Oh, well, never mind. But old Japanese teacher guy. I don't think it is him. Sadly.

Oh well, never mind. But I mean, it's an incredible movie. My grandma enjoyed it. He kicked off started beating the shit out of everyone because he's old. I said don't get any ideas, Big Man. There's an amazing bit where Terry Zillow takes a piss out of Mr. Miyagi because Mr.

Miyagi's take, this is the great thing about movie fights, right? thing about movie fights right is in movie fights even though it's three against one the three will let the one fight you one at a time

yes yeah and that never happens in real life no why would it why would you Terry Silver's like the end of level

boss in this scene and he's seen Mr. Miyagi devastate but by the way John Kreese is a fucking ex-Green Beret Special Forces Vietnam veteran.

Yep. Right? Yep. He gets decimated by Miyagi. Final man. Barnes is already toast so it's just Terry left. Terry starts doing

this quite racist Japanese noises. Yeah. Right, to take the piss out of Miyagi. But I thought he was a karate master as well. He is.

So he should have more respect, shouldn't he? You'd think he'd have respect for an elder. Why would he just go... Yeah, he does that. That's literally your...

You've been studying this for decades and you do that. That's what you go for. For a man like Terry Silver to have the gall to wear a black belt around his waist

at the time and behave like that. And be a racist man. Yeah, it's despicable. Wow. Anyway, then Mr. Miyagi beats him up

and then Mr. Miyagi does it to get back at him. Takes the piss out of himself. He's flipped it on him. Oh, right. I think my granddad found that the funniest thing of the year. Yeah. Of the calendar year. He was cracking up.

We had to have the TV at about 100. Yeah. And he was loving it. Absolutely. The TV was so loud that when Mr. Miyagi started making the Japanese noises, my mum came through from the kitchen and said, what are you watching? What are you watching?

It sounds reductive. I didn't mind it as a movie. I thought it was interesting enough. Interesting enough karate style. The one thing I didn't like, Pete, sorry, just to finish, is that the premise that LaRusso has to fight Barnes, it's kind of weird

because in the All-Valley Karate Championship, the rules appear to be the defending champion doesn't fight until the end. So he doesn't even have to go through the bracket himself. It's like a Royal Rumble. Like some people come in

as one rather than 30. I just feel that Mike Barnes, even though he's the antagonist in this film, he's fought five times until to get to Daniel LaRusso. Yeah. And I just think it's a bit unfair.

That is unfair. Especially if it's all done on one day, isn't it? That's terrible. All done the same afternoonusso. Yeah. And I just think it's a bit unfair. That is unfair, especially if it's all done on one day, isn't it? That's terrible. All done the same afternoon, probably. Yeah, probably. The dojo's covered in paint. Didn't your niece,

I don't think we did this on the show, but it really made me laugh. Didn't your niece describe, asked you about a film, Robot E.T.? Oh, yes. Was it Robot E.T.? Yeah, so I'll tell you this, this is mad, right?

So, I don't think I told this, did I? No, I think you did on the show. It was a lovely moment. I'll tell you that. Listen, if people haven't already heard it, they can hear it again, can't they? They can, yeah. All weekend,

we always do a film night with my niece when she stays. And it's on a Saturday night and we do whatever we're doing during the day. We get some food in and watch a film. And she loves watching movies. She's into it. And my sister always plays her Disney movies, which is fine, right?

I've got a problem with some of the Disney movies for a young girl, but the ones that she watches tend to be quite empowering for women, which is important. Anyway, so we try and steer clear of Disney because she's already had enough Disney. She's had her fill.

Do you know what I mean? If she goes to Birkin every day, I'm taking her to McDonald's because it's different. So we decide what movie we want to watch she spends all weekend saying she wants to watch Lego E.T.

Lego E.T. yes and I'm like the fuck is Lego E.T.? I've never heard of it that would be good probably yeah probably good you get Lego Batman

and all the rest of it anyway it turns out it was it was Johnny Five in Short Circuit Short Circuit who does look like a Lego E.T. like a robot E.T. yeah who does look like a Lego robot AT

yeah he does look like a Lego AT it's a wonderfully beautiful kind of childish way of looking at things I love it yeah it was

and we didn't watch it by the way no crap what? it's crap no it's problematic

it's problematic as long as the kid doesn't know I didn't know as a child that the guy wasn't Indian but you know it just it just it just happened it was the 80s how have they done that i mean i know um you know in america i would always say that like um mexican food is the prevalent kind of um uh food that's

sort of like being approximated by i think it's been approximated approximated by a set of people and so you would assume that there weren't as many Indian or Southeast Asian people in America as there are in the UK. But of course that's not fucking true.

Of course there will be actors from that part of the world. They don't have a just to hire Americans, are they? Say again? Well, they do just have a look around the local street. Yeah, exactly. I don't have a just to hire Americans are they say again what they do just have a look around the local street yeah exactly

I don't know weird yeah and I think it's astonishing that they didn't that they thought that was acceptable you also have

a situation where but you get away with being at that time you're opposed you're blocked from shots you get away

with a lot more in the same way you wouldn't get away with you talking about Mexicans or you're talking about immigrants I know what you mean you know what I mean from south of the border I know what you mean because but in the same way you wouldn't get away with you talking about Mexicans or you're talking about immigrants from south of the border

but in the UK some of the stuff they talk about Indians, Pakistanis is shocking the way they talk about them

even today in the US you have on the west coast as well you have a very well established Chinese population

as well right because I think around the gold rush a lot of Chinese and that's where you had a well established Chinatown and places like

San Francisco and LA and all around there I suppose and then a bit later on in New York as well but have you seen Big Trouble in Little China

yeah so your explanation falls down there because there's a lot of Chinese people in that part of the world and that is horrific as well I mean they were

showing that on a plane I was on a plane it must have been a couple of years ago, and you know when you just want to watch a film where you just want to nod off?

I always do that. I fucking annoy myself because I think, right, on planes you get good movies, and there'll be five,

six, seven movies every year that will go to the cinema that I want to watch that I'll never get around to watching. And invariably,

they'll be on a plane. And what do I watch? I watch the fucking Matrix for the 400th time. Anyway, I watch Big Trouble and Little China because I watch the fucking Matrix for the 400th time. Anyway, I watched Big Trouble in Little China because I just wanted something

to kind of switch off with. And it was kind of good in a completely dated way. But I think it was, I imagine it was probably quite problematic for a number of different things. Yeah, I imagine.

But on the other hand, it's got like fucking actual monsters in it and stuff. So I guess it's probably a little bit of a mixed bag. A mixed bag. Lukey, you've written on our little running order that I don't think it's rude for me to point out we have every now and again.

Pete has been replying directly to listeners that email about Gibbons again. I don't remember doing this, Luke. I'll level with you. I don't remember doing this. Can you remember who I emailed it to? I'll find out what time it was. By the way, while I'm doing that, how do you do a strikethrough on a Google Doc?

So you put a line through it. Oh, I don't know. I don't know how you do that. You'd like to do that. No, I'd like to, because I'd like to remember what I've been talking about and what I haven't. Oh, I see.

No, I don't know how to do it. So basically, you replied to a... Where is it? You replied to a guy who emailed in about Gibbons. And I just thought to myself that's I think the third time that's happened

right the inbox we don't reply to the email inbox I do every now and again if I see a Gibbon yeah about Gibbons that's what I'm saying

and I just think I just thought it was an interesting point because if people want a direct line to your heart... Yeah, email the Luke and Pete Shaw inbox, but add a Gibbon in there.

But I don't do that because I always assume any Gibbon story that comes out, you've already seen. You've got something like a Google Alert lined up for it or something. Yeah. What was the news story? I don't actually know. I don't remember replying. I don't remember who it was.

I don't remember where it was. I'm going to search it now. Because Pete loves Gibbons alright 14th of September you actually replied the next day at 7.22am oh

because someone emailed with a reddit on the nature is fucking lit reddit where a Gibbon is swinging down and trying to annoy a tiger oh yes there's some tigers just hanging out

just being tigers and a Gibbon just swings in and just starts, like, pulling the tiger's, like, ears and stuff. It's incredible, isn't it? And they're, what, swinging up into the trees away?

And then they just fuck off again. Fantastic. What a set of animals. Brass bars on them. Why are they doing that? What? Why are they doing that? Just for leisure?

They're nature's clowns. I can see why you've got no friends here, William. You were wearing some trousers the other day that could have been a Gibbons trousers. Have you found one?

Yeah, you're wearing those red trousers with the kind of tiger... What? They kind of look like a leopard. Leopard print, I suppose. Leopard print, but red. Blue leopard print on red, yeah.

Yeah, they're a little strong, but... Well, the mountain's Saturday night, didn't I? Had some friends down. They visited Lee. Went on a rollercoaster, Luke. That's an icebreaker, that.

What do you mean? Yeah, it is, yeah. Get trousers on. It's just peacock trousers, isn't it? Peacock trousers. Peacock some trousers on. And I think it makes people feel comfortable because they can go, you know, in a party or a bar or something

and you're in a group of people and people just peel off. Someone goes to the toilet, someone goes somewhere else. And obviously you're left with something you don't really know that well. Yeah. Bang, you wear the conversation trousers. Yes. Awkwardness avoided. Where did you get your conversation trousers?

Yeah, exactly. You need someone to make a fool of themselves, sartorially. What would you say if you didn't know me and I said to you, ah, nice trousers, where'd you get those from? How would you go?

Would you say anything? Or would you get awkward about it? What, I'd tell you about, well, look, I just think, I'm a man who, a lot of my clothes are stained because I'm quite clumsy. Do you know how often

that happens to me? It annoys the shit out of me. What, like quite a lot? Yeah, always. Is it... What do you spill on yourself? Tea? It's the situation.

The problem is... Do you want to finish your story about your conversation trousers or do you want me to cut you off? No, I think we're done. Okay. So, I always eat dinner in front of the telly.

Yeah. Right? The way my house is, it's an old Victorian house. And I guess, well, I don't guess. Obviously, there was no TV when it was built. So they have a dining room next to the kitchen. That makes sense. People prepare the food in the kitchen, eat it in the dining room, whatever.

Bedrooms are the other way, and there's like a lounge. And the lounge is right at the other side of the house. But that's where the dining room, whatever. Bedroom's the other way, and there's like a lounge. And the lounge is right at the other side of the house. But that's where the TV is, right? So we always just walk through the house with the food and eat in the dining room and living room. And I'm always sat here like that, and I always split down my front. Do you have it on your lap, though?

On a tray. Yeah, I put mine on the coffee table. Coffee table's too low, brother. No, I think it's fine. Yeah, but it's too far away from my lap, so it's not going to go down my front. If it falls out of my mouth, it's just going to fall on the floor. And I also have dogs, so they'll just eat anything.

The Chinese way would be to hold the bowl right up to your mouth, right? I guess so, yeah. But that's usually quite glutinous rice-based, isn't it? You can't do that when you're having a jack-o'-lantern with beans, because you need a knife and a fork. How many jack of potatoes do you eat a week? I reckon,

well listen, I reckon my record for putting a clean t-shirt on and spilling food down it is under 30 seconds. Just set, yeah, okay.

From how long it takes for me to get from the bedroom to the living room and get a fork and a bit of food. I put a hot latte in my, on my motorbike handlebars.

There's a place where I put my little mobile phone, my little mobile phone, and I sort of jammed it in there and I thought, I'll be fine if I just take it slow. Instantly,

all over me, my white, I was wearing white jean jots. It's the worst thing to do. You're cranking through. You and that gang are cranking through. What an absolute joker.

I completely forgot to say, It's the worst thing to do. You're in Karate Kid 3. You're in their gang in Karate Kid 3. What an absolute joker. Yeah. Oy, oy, oy. I completely forgot to say, the backfill of the story of John Kreese in the Cobra Kai dojo is amazing. Where did you get this from? It's from the fucking Wikipedia. Right, okay.

So I'm pretty sure that either someone's written this. There's not really any references. I don't think it features, I make no apology for doing a terrible broadcasting thing and going back to something we already talked about, but there's an amazing backstory to John Kreese as the Vietnam veteran Green Beret head of Cobra Kai. And it is written, his fictional biography, his background. So I guess when you're making a film,

say you're getting a film made, and you have to do pen pictures of all the characters, so the big money men can really invest in it. Whoever wrote John Kreese's is a divorced man, for sure, who didn't do very well at athletics at school, and wishes he was a badass Arnold Schwarzenegger type character. And it is amazing. I mean, to cut a long story short,

John Kreese and Terry Silver are in Vietnam together, being held captive by the North Vietnamese. And they have to regularly have fights to the death over the top of a ladder suspended above a venomous snake pit. That went on, though, didn't it? That went on, didn't it? What would be more 80s in terms of imagination

than that yeah it's just incredible I we were talking about this at the weekend Rambo like the plot was just

it was just kind of like a drifter kind of guy and he walks through town and they won't let him walk through town and so he takes his revenge out on the town

for some reason I thought it was all just set in like Vietnam and he was like no the first one he's a Vietnam veteran with PTSD yeah and he's fucking pissed off yeah revenge out on the town for some reason. I thought it was all just set in Vietnam. No, the first one, he's a Vietnam veteran with PTSD. Yeah. And he's fucking pissed off. Yeah.

And he starts going on a rampage. Yeah. It's quite weird. Yeah. The second one, I think, is when he goes back to Vietnam, they send him back to get MIAs. Right. But you associate him being in the jungle all the time.

But the first one, he's not really. He's not. No. I want to watch Rambo. It sounds mental. He's not. No. I want to watch Rambo. It sounds mental. The way that people in the 80s tried to process,

via the medium of film and video games and TV shows, what happened in the war is actually quite mad. It's quite, quite mad. And the one thing I forgot to say about Karate Kid 3 is that Terry Silver made his millions with a toxic waste disposal company. Oh, okay, yeah. That's a very 80s thing.

Really 80s? It's very Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the sweets always used to be like toxic waste sweets and stuff like that. Garbage Pail Kids. Yeah, all that stuff. Do you like Garbage Pail Kids, Pete?

I remember them being banned. The Garbage Pail Kids cards were banned in our school because one of the backs of the little cards said that you should stamp on it in a lady's foot. And somebody did that and they got expelled or certainly suspended. But they said they read it on the back of a garbage pail card so they got banned.

The mania when it comes to banning stuff from schools is always like weirdly misplaced and yet you can still play rugby and punch someone in the face.

When we were kids you're completely right. I can remember when we were kids being like 11 years old and because a girl or a boy it might have been a boy actually

I can't remember, got hit in the face with a plastic shoot five penny floater. Yeah. Right. Which would not cause any damage at all. No. For the rest of my time at school, we were only able to play football with sponge balls.

And sponge balls are the worst. They soak up water. Can't play in the rain. Can't play in the rain. It's just terrible. And if it hits you, yeah, if you do play in the rain, I mean, we didn't have the opportunity to not play in the rain where I was terrible And if it hits you Yeah if you do play in the rain I mean we didn't have The opportunity to Not play in the rain

Where I was from Where I was just Constantly like that But it would just Absolutely soak through your shirt And you'd be absolutely You'd just be sobbing wet And also

Pogs were banned Why's that? Don't know really Illegal trading I guess I mean Stickers and pogs And pro set cards

There's a lot of fucking There's a lot of like trading going on in the playground. And I guess it just got to an economic level that the teachers didn't fully understand. Yeah, I guess so. I mean, because people would get vexed about it. Did people, at your school, we have to go to a break by the way, fucking hell.

At your school, at any point, with stickers, did people ever do that free-for-all thing where they throw them up in the air? No, what? Like a kind of, like a giveaway? You'd have... Like the Manson tax loss video. Yeah, basically.

So you'd have like, say you would play football in the playground at break time against another bunch of kids. Yeah. And you would say, if you lose, one of your guys has to throw their stickers up in the air. Oh, what? And just lose all of their stickers?

And it's a mad scramble. Oh, my God. And I remember once, I think it was, it might have been Adam Smith, who I actually spoke to quite briefly not that long ago. He had a wedge of stickers about that thick. Right. And he threw them all up.

Lost every last one of them? I mean, the rules were he was allowed to participate in them. Oh, in the grabbing back. So I guess he had an advantage knowing where he was going to throw them. But there's no way he could have got all of them. No. Oh, incredible. Yeah.

That's amazing. It was pretty big. It would get really grubby. So I think there was a lot of fights based around sticker trading and pogs. Because pogs, you had to smash them with the other pog, right? Yes, the plastic thing, and they flip over, yeah. I never really saw anybody play with them, just that they would do that. I imagine the headteacher read in the Daily Mail that in 400 miles away

a kid got hit in the eye with one of the things. But that's the thing. It was always like this mania and I remember having like a school assembly where the headmaster or the deputy headmaster

got up and just sort of said, look, one of East 17 has come out and said that he has five pills for breakfast. Yeah. He said like five pills before breakfast. I think it was like eight on there. Yeah, he has five pills for breakfast. He said like five pills before breakfast. I think it was like eight

on there. Yeah, he was so mad at that. And it's just like, we didn't know that story. There was no way of, it would never get delivered on our, you know, unless we read it

in the newspaper, which we're at school, we don't read the newspaper. It would come after we, you know, you don't bring it home, couldn't read, exactly. But we wouldn't have

known that until the fucking until the live block went don't listen to me 17 don't do drugs it's like we have no I'm like I'm 12

I have no access to pills they were a lot more obsessed with drugs than we were yeah drugs I can remember voodoo kind of

nonce cults and stuff like that it was a real crazy stuff about that in the 80s like parents were really scared of U4 and Childline

saying there was a voodoo sex cult there was a mad there was a mad obsession with devil worship cults in the US in the 80s

yes it was like a proper thing I can remember though a good example of how obsessed the adults were with drugs compared to the students. I remember a kid I was quite friendly with when we were about 13 or 14.

He got pulled into the head teacher's office. The police were there, right, as well, because they said, oh, they've got reason to believe that on CCTV they'd seen him fucking selling heroin. And he was basically, it turned out, he had like his sandwiches in some foil and he was standing quite out of the way on his own. Eating his sandwiches. The thing that gets me, like, that's going to stay with him much longer than anything else.

Like, this is going to stay with, I remember like my mum, I had like a little spoon in my mouth and I just walked around with it around the house. Just, just, at the spoon. And she went, what is I just walked around with it in the, around the house. Just, just, and she went, what is on that spoon? Grabbed it and like looked at it.

And it's like, what do you think this is? Yeah. I understand like the heroin connection. Well, just to a spoon. Just to eat in a spoon of heroin. Delicious.

I hear it comes on spoons. I, I had, mad. I once was, came back from a nightclub, um, when I was young and, uh, it had, they were I once was, came back from a nightclub when I was young and it had,

they were given like three samples of aftershave in a card shaped like a CD and you pop the liquid out and you would just snap it open and put it on.

And you thought, and you went, my mum found it in my pocket. Thought it was like a designer future drug. Yeah, she was fuming and I was like,

I don't know what I've done. I literally don't know what's happened. It turns out it's aftershave. Oh, wonderful. Yeah, she was fuming. And I was like, I don't know what I've done. I literally don't know what's happened. It turned out it's after four years. Oh, wonderful. Anyway, break! If anyone's ever accused you of taking drugs or weirdness, like why are parents so odd about this sort of thing?

Probably because they're just worried about us and love us. And we're old enough to be parents now. Exactly. We're not responsible enough to have fulfilled that. Put that muck in my arms. We'll be back in a second. And we're back. It's the Luke and Pete show.

How are you doing, Luke? Have you got some emails for us, mate? Yeah, we're probably going to have to squeeze one in really quick. Squeeze one in, mate. Because we've done that thing again. God, we've done that thing again. Why do we always do this? It happens on a Monday because we haven't seen each other.

Exactly. We get very excited. We get overexcited. I'm not going to do that email because that's amazing. I don't want to be able to talk about that. Leave that on Thursday. I'll tell you what we'll do. We'll do a follow-up on sheep and grass.

Yes, please. Because that's come along once or twice and people are interested in it. So I think that's a good barometer of whether we should be talking about it or not. Phil has been in touch. Now, I looked Phil up. Phil, don't be frightened by this. Nothing sinister. Sexy.

I wanted to know if he had any qualifications because he seemed to know quite a lot about sheep eating grass. Okay. And I couldn't find any. Right. He seems to be some kind of writer. I see. Not a scientist. Okay. So take this with a pinch of salt if you want. Delicious. Grass and salt. Yeah, exactly. He says, Luke and Pete, a long time listener here who finally feels the need to chime in

specifically on the issue of sheep and how they get ample nutrients from eating just grass. My main impetus for doing so is the piss poor attempt to answer this question a few weeks ago when someone suggested essentially it was just because sheep use their brains less than animals like humans. While their protein intake is no doubt less than a carnivorous animal, they still do need protein to grow. So that answer clearly falls short. A quick Google search will clarify that most herbivores can access protein

within plant material because of their ability to break down cellulose. Simply put, there are proteins in vegetation that are inaccessible to our simple human bellies. Another reason I felt the need to write in on this topic is Luke's continued concern with the issue that almost borders on a phobia. Believe it or not, this same question came up on the

podcast a long time ago, perhaps somewhere around the 100th episode. Luke expressed a concern, almost bordering on some sort of fear, that it made no sense how sheep were able to grow from just eating grass. I hope this clears some things up and Luke can get some better sleep knowing that sheep are no longer an enigma. Cheers, Phil.

Makes sense. Well, you're repeating yourself because you're going to see now. Yes, because all I'm eating is grass to see if I can replicate the behavior. I had a weird feeling the other day as well. Maybe that kind of thing does occur to me and if I don't solve it in my mind, it does keep kind of repeating on me. Yeah. I had a weird feeling the other day that if you, I can't remember why, but maybe I just

read it somewhere. If you keep painting the inside of a room, technically speaking, the room is getting smaller and smaller all the time. Yes. Okay. And it makes you feel a bit weird. Why does it make you feel a bit weird? Do you feel oppressed by?

Do you feel oppressed by paint? It's claustrophobic, isn't it? It's claustrophobic. Do you get claustrophobia, especially as such a small kind of... It prays in my mind. Interesting. The idea of...

You have very few chinks in your armour. I'm going to explore this. You should. I can't reach the... You are so uninterested in me that it's taken you so long to know that I'm claustrophobic. I also don't...

These are quite aggressive cavity walls, so maybe I'll just start filling it with expanding form. Yeah, just get smaller and smaller. It's like a vagina. So I heard from the dentist once that she said to me that it's always quite big men who invariably scale the dentist. Oh, feel. Okay, right.

Because it's, I guess, maybe because you even, you know, unconsciously you're just used to being in control of stuff maybe. Yes. And claustrophobia I think might be the similar kind of thing. Even the thought of going caving or something makes me feel weird. Yeah, but I don't think anybody likes that sort of thing. Lots of people like it, don't they? Only demented people want to crawl with tiny amounts of oxygen

underneath stalagmites, which is on the top of the roof. Either way, they clamber through these little kind of openings. Any moment could just crunch you. Crunch you to bits. When I was a kid, I went on what was called a no fear weekend. Was it from the company No Fear? I don't think so. Right.

It could have been. I don't think it was. We didn't end up with any merch or anything. It was at Sixth Form College. It was just an excuse to go to Wales and do stuff no fear so we did kayaking, canoeing

rock climbing abseiling potholing right all the rest of it potholing's horrible yeah I did about two things

I definitely showed fear yeah by refusing to do stuff I didn't want to do some fear some of it was good like the the assault courses

and the canoeing and stuff was good I'm not really frightened of water or anything like that so that was fine but the caving thing nah I did it

I did do it but I did the the kind of real like rudimentary amateurs bit yeah you stick your head around the door

and start going there were some keynotes he went right down there I just find that weird have you seen that film The Descent yes I think I have that is amazing

that's spooky and it's really really claustrophobic I forgot about that film that's such a early noughties film isn't it The Descent I rate it

spooky I rate it too alright we'll be back very soon we'll be back on Thursday talking all things batteries boys etc if you want to get

in touch with the show it's really simple hello at lungpeachshow.com give us your stories if your parents are unbelievably worried you're on drugs let us know

maybe you are on drugs and they're right to worry. Hello at LukeandPeteShow.com You can also get us on Twitter at LukeandPeteShow. Sorry about all the stuff about Karate Kid 3. I realise now that I'm looking at the clock, I think I might have done 20 minutes on it. I mean, it's pretty much a clash of the titles, isn't it, really?

I do apologise for that. If you've got no interest in Karate Kid 3... We didn't see it. It's not a film I've watched, but it sounds bloody great. Yeah, give it a go for next time. Yeah, all right. All right, see you on Thursday. Thanks a lot, guys. Ta-ta.

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