The Luke and Pete Show - Tops off, let's kiss

Episode Date: July 1, 2024

Luke admits he finally gets the whole alcohol-free beer thing, while Pete starts a fight club the moment the partner he has access to goes on a girls trip.Plus, Pete tells his own parable of Abraham c...arrying him through the waves.Want to get in touch with the show?Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Peter, you spent a lot of time hanging out with Vish. I did, yeah. Do you think you guys will become best friends? I hope one day to get my own weidel and weedle my way into his heart. You want to be short king with Vish? The short kings. I would say there was Ric Flair the sometimes maligned slightly problematic
Starting point is 00:00:26 deservingly maligned deservingly maligned well I mean deservingly maligned but it's the sort of stories that he was eventually
Starting point is 00:00:34 kind of quite rightly put in the dock dock for not you know legally but put in the dock emotionally it's a metaphor
Starting point is 00:00:41 it's a metaphor yeah celebrated like five years ago or maybe three years ago by the WWE. Right. They made cartoons of like, you know, him flashing a,
Starting point is 00:00:50 an air stewardess. Um, is he a hall of famer? Oh, very much so. Yeah. But he would, um,
Starting point is 00:00:56 drink and party throughout the night. Uh, but he'd always be at the gym, uh, like five o'clock in the morning. Yeah. No matter what he did. And,
Starting point is 00:01:04 um, I felt this morning at seven o'clock, I thought I'm going to be a passenger today in my life, in my work. But I was thinking, well, if Vish, who was out later than I was,
Starting point is 00:01:17 is going to be able to, is in the same state that I am, there's going to be two passengers on the Ramble. I don't think we can, we can't carry two passengers. What? Yeah. And then you're on the Ramble. I don't think we can, we can't carry two passengers. Well, yeah, and then you're on the show as well. You're going to call me the taxi. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Shove you in the back and fucking take you where you need to go. Yeah, and, but Vish is, was absolutely fine. He was. He is good at it. I've, I've, I've fallen out of fear with the sesh. You were fine as well. This is the Luca Peach Pete show by the way hello
Starting point is 00:01:46 it's Monday the 1st of July today although the running order does say June it's actually the 1st of July July and we started off dry there
Starting point is 00:01:56 a little cold open but we don't want people to be confused about what they're listening to this is the Luke and Pete show we're recording this on the day where we've just
Starting point is 00:02:04 hung out for a kind of social event the night before, which is why Pete's talking about his stuff with Vish. I did actually say to the guys this morning, the producers,
Starting point is 00:02:14 I said, look, there's a chance that some people, I didn't mention any names, some people may not be fit to work. What a worry, what? And the reason that happened,
Starting point is 00:02:24 I had that conversation, is because one of the team, months and months ago now, to be fair, turned up and was simply not fit for work. It wasn't you.
Starting point is 00:02:34 It wasn't me. I would have known that. No, and so, and it perturbed the guys. So I had to give them a little silly. I see. If this happens,
Starting point is 00:02:42 perturbed the guys. Bear in mind, the most recent evidence which I woke up this morning and saw an Instagram story from Vish of you
Starting point is 00:02:52 smashing back shots at the bar which looked like it came at about 2am. I thought I need to prepare the ground here just in case.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Right, okay. It didn't come to pass. You've been absolutely fine. I'm happy to take that on the chin but I think by failing to prepare we may well be preparing
Starting point is 00:03:07 to fail I think you're a silly worry what everything's fine really I do know you though I'll drive I'll drive give me the keys
Starting point is 00:03:13 give me the goddamn keys sorry officer those are definitely his last words give me the keys when I nearly drowned my last words would have been
Starting point is 00:03:22 hey Sarah check out I can do this cool, swim through this big wave. Yeah. Yeah. I've found this new way of swimming. Do you think,
Starting point is 00:03:31 how do you, drowning, actually drowning? I think, like, I think I've invented a new drum beat. Do you, do you,
Starting point is 00:03:39 do you, that famous drowning, non-drowning incident that's what that would be. Yeah. That was a while ago now. How do you look back on that? Have you got a bit of PTSD about it?
Starting point is 00:03:49 I think there's something to be said. And, you know, I will go on Instagram and make like an e-book about it and sort of, you know, charge people, charge people 99p to, you know, gain the knowledge that I have, you know, hard-won knowledge that I've experienced, I would say
Starting point is 00:04:07 just hide it away. Hide those thoughts and those feelings and those kind of like anxieties. Just put them down. Ignore them. That's more Alan Price's advice. What did he say to the psychic, Simon?
Starting point is 00:04:18 And then every two weeks drive to Thetford Forest and scream as loud as you can all Sunday. And after that you'll be fine. Do you look back on that almost drowning in Avony? Do you still think about it? I still think about Abraham
Starting point is 00:04:32 carrying me through the waves. Do you? Yeah. You tell it's a really impactful part of your life because you actually remember the lifeguard's name. Well, it's very biblical, isn't it? It is. It's a very biblical name.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Imagine if he was called Moses. Yeah. And he actually parted the water. Parted the water, yeah. Yeah. But you were frightened, weren't you? he was called Moses. Yeah. And he actually parted the water. Parted the water, yeah. Yeah. But you were frightened, weren't you? I was nearly dead. That is...
Starting point is 00:04:50 You keep saying that, but you don't give any detail. People don't know what you mean. I was nearly drowned. I was out to sea, and I was nearly drowning, and I was finding it very hard to stay above water. And the lifeguard saved me. Yeah. And on a day where,
Starting point is 00:05:07 the night before, I drank too much, I don't need those emotions in my soul. And as you sit here now, would you say you've learned your lesson? No. Because I nearly drank myself, I nearly drowned yesterday.
Starting point is 00:05:20 In baby Guinnesses. In Baileys. I can't believe you told the production staff that I might be too... I didn't say that. You've interpreted it in that way. One of us.
Starting point is 00:05:30 I've said, you know, as a general point for the team, which is my job, by the way, you might have noticed last night I wasn't drinking to excess. Right, okay, fine. Work today. Work today, right. And we'll come onto that in a minute. It's endless, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:05:44 With the Euros, work's endless. We've got a new member of staff. He's only started a couple of weeks ago. today, right. And we'll come on to that in a minute. It's endless, isn't it? With the Euros, work's endless. We've got a new member of staff who's only started a couple of weeks ago. Right, okay. This is the situation it makes us at the start of the day. This is how you should deal with it.
Starting point is 00:05:53 That's what they need. Right, okay. Don't be talking to them like, Daddy, Daddy is going to have a quiet day today. Yeah. Daddy's relaxation. Yeah, Dad.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Like, no sudden moves. If you don't get between Peter and his young, all it's relaxation yeah like no sudden moves if you don't get between Peter and his young all it's kind of like how to deal with a bear I'm a bit confused that you're annoyed
Starting point is 00:06:12 that I'm trying to responsibly run our company that's what I'm confused about no but I don't need I know I can be hung over and still turn in a turgid performance
Starting point is 00:06:22 I know you can still you can be hung over yeah I think pound for pound I am top 30% and still turn into a turgid performance. I know you could still be hungover, yeah. I think pound for pound, I am top 30%. I've just said that you're absolutely fine. There's nothing wrong with it. It's fine. But I was on the, do you know what I've discovered?
Starting point is 00:06:35 What? Alcohol-free beer. Yeah, if you have like about five pints, then you're like, I don't need another one of these. But I do like a fizzy lager, so let's have an alcohol-free lager. There's something that kind of lends, I never really kind of got it these, but I do like a fizzy lager, so let's have an alcohol-free lager. There's something that kind of lends... I've never really kind of got it before, but I do understand...
Starting point is 00:06:49 You have to have the alcohol one first, though, I would say. That's what I do. I don't think you have to, but that's what I do. It doesn't make you a better driver. No, it doesn't. When I'm standing there watching, say,
Starting point is 00:07:00 an England game in the pub, and it's like the summer, and you've got that kind of... There's the heat of the summer, and it's all very nostalgic and reminiscent of like... In a summer dress. Yeah, and I'm wearing, I was actually wearing a pretty nice fit yesterday as well. You are, you're wearing a...
Starting point is 00:07:11 Have you, hang on, have you bought two of the same sort of shackety kind of shirts? No, it's just a different brand. In different... It's different. Oh, right, okay. Yeah, it's different. They're both toweling. Yeah, it's the same material.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I had no idea you were so into toweling this summer. No, I had no idea until about two weeks ago. Right. And I thought, I'm going to give this a go. Terry Towels. Anyway, there's something about, if you stand watching an England game on the big screen and you're surrounded by your pals
Starting point is 00:07:36 or there's a bit of an atmosphere going, the weather's warm, you're in shorts. It's like, that's happened to me every other summer for like my whole life. Right. And if I'm holding a Diet Coke or something, it doesn't hit the same. Even if I don't want a beer
Starting point is 00:07:47 because I'm working the next day, an alcohol-free lager does the trick because I feel like I'm still drinking. Yeah. And I would also say that I think with the Euros though, like we frequently work over the weekends. So where's our... All the day's work, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:01 There's always work to be done, isn't there? But you're saying that from the point of view of someone who always needs some kind of piss-off outlet, don't you? What, like to watch it out? And you're saying you can't get one because you work on weekends. I can't get, no.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Is this what you say to your... Didn't have one on the weekend? To your partner. Sarah was at the Isle of Wight Festival and... Oh, yeah, you were on solo. I was on solo. Flying solo. Solo doggy duty.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Yeah, it was good. You sent me a video of the two dogs fighting. Yeah, it was good. You sent me a video of these two dogs fighting. Yeah, I was unrelated. You're goading them into it. I'm starting a dog fighting league. We're doing this fighting thing. We're doing a dog. Yeah, I've sold the videos to
Starting point is 00:08:37 an Eastern Europe shadowy businessman. I liked the videos of the dogs fighting. What I didn't like was you in the background in a vest pulling muscle poses. UFC, the Ultimate Dog League. Yeah, UDL. That sounds bad. What's the Defence League?
Starting point is 00:08:56 Yeah, probably. How did you go? That was almost EDL, isn't it? Yeah. Oh, Robinson. You know what? Tommy Robinson, quite short, isn't he? I think I might be a source of a lot of this.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Yeah, could be. When he was getting arrested for having a succulent Chinese meal and getting put in a wagon, he's tiny compared to the blokes who are arresting him. I don't know whether it's just the milk-fed men of north of the border Canada, Calgary or wherever the hell he was. Yeah. They're just big guys.
Starting point is 00:09:25 But he's a little guy, isn't he? He is a little fella. And he can't leave the country now. He never gets... It's their problem. He can't leave Canada? Can't leave Canada. He's had his passport taken off him.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Why didn't someone think of that before? I know. Why can't we exile him somewhere else? Just invite him to a pseudo-intellectual debate in Canada. Done that in about 2002. None of this would have happened. I'm surprised that he's surprised that, I don't know what visa, whatever situation he may or may not
Starting point is 00:09:51 be guilty of in this case, but he was literally chucked out of the US for travelling on a fake passport, no, sorry, someone else's passport effectively. Right. So I imagine he can't have that many complaints when an organisation or a government says, can we have a look at that visa, please?
Starting point is 00:10:09 Yeah. Can we have a look at that passport, please? Surely he's not just going in there as a tourist. He's doing a speaking tour, so probably would need a visa. If you go to the US just for a meeting, you don't need a visa. No, but I think if you're taking money out of the country,
Starting point is 00:10:23 which he's doing by doing a speaking tour yeah I think it's different why is he why are they inviting him there anyway
Starting point is 00:10:30 I don't know she's like a football hooligan they just sort of feel like it's he doesn't ever say anything like it's above him
Starting point is 00:10:36 he doesn't even say anything why do they need him yeah why doesn't he get bored of just getting parled in and out
Starting point is 00:10:42 of police wagons all the time he's just constantly I think we spoke about it before where he was, like, cadging five quid off a random stranger in the street. Yeah. It's for the cause. For the cause.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Yeah. It's going straight up his nose. Fucking hell. Of course it is. Speaking of which... What? I told you this earlier. I didn't say it on the round ball because I didn't think it would be appropriate,
Starting point is 00:11:02 but I'm going to say it on this show. I cycled into the office... Vish was wired today. No, not when he's... Oh, you ain't got the balls to say that when he's here. I would say that, and he would laugh and go, ha ha, yes Pete, my drinking friend. And then we'd embrace and kiss.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Tops off. Tops off. Yeah, great. On the way in this morning, I cycled through Exmouth Market, which for those people who don't know London very well is a it's a market
Starting point is 00:11:29 it's not it's quite a little trendy bit a little trendy bit between Farringdon and Angel really am I thinking of am I thinking of
Starting point is 00:11:36 that place that's I'm thinking of the one that's in Liverpool Street what market's that that's like a little kind of eatery yeah it might be actually Spitalfield
Starting point is 00:11:44 similar vibe though isn't it but Exmouth Market is really small it's just one little side street really there like a little kind of eatery. Yeah, it might be actually Spitalfields. Similar vibe, though, isn't it? But Exford Market's really small. It's just one little side street, really. There's a little kind of pop-up
Starting point is 00:11:49 tent selling food. There's a couple of nice restaurants there. So you've got a quality chop house there and one or two others. Anyway, there's always
Starting point is 00:11:57 a Pret in there. It's always open. It's always empty. And the one right near our office is always really busy. So if I want to get some breakfast on the way in
Starting point is 00:12:03 because I'm at a time to have breakfast on the way into the office, I pause the line back outside, pop in. Are you not worried that you're not going to be able to pick it up again? No, because you just pause it. You don't end it. Oh.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Just do a little pause, mate. Right. It's fine. How long do you get? I think you need up to 15 minutes on the pause. Ooh. Get charged. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Yeah, that's fair. So, yeah. Anyway. So we're recording this the day after an England game, the night before. So we're recording this the day after an England game, the night before. So we're recording this the day after the Slovenia game, to give you a bit of context. And I parked my line bike up.
Starting point is 00:12:35 I was vaguely aware of a couple of guys sat at a table outside, but I didn't really pay much attention to them. This is like probably 8 a.m. Yeah. Go in there, bought a chocolate croissant. Ooh. And a little breakfast bowl a.m. Yeah. Go in there, buy, I bought a chocolate croissant. Ooh. And a little breakfast bowl thing. Bonjour.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Yeah. And as I was walking out, there's a little kind of whores to get out because a couple of people were coming in, so I was almost holding the door. So I looked over at these guys. One of them, there's two of them there. One's got an English shirt on, right? So they've obviously been out on the old Saucinho.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Right. Bit of a gargle on the old Plon Corosa and one of them's just chopping up a line on the coffee the little table outside of prayer at 8 in the morning on a Wednesday morning and it's a hot day as well already warm
Starting point is 00:13:17 and you're going to be hot and you're going to need a poo and it's just there's nothing good about that there's nothing good about that, is there? There's nothing good about any of that. If you could get the consent, I'd film that and I'd play that in schools. That's where you're going to end up. Nothing good about it.
Starting point is 00:13:34 He's like, I need to do this. This is great. As soon as that, you know, starts going up my nose, this is great. This is the best I'm going to feel all day. This is the best I'm going to feel all week this is the best I'm going to feel all week this is the only way I'm going to get through work today
Starting point is 00:13:47 which makes it even worse right but I need to I need to really emphasise the idea that like these guys apart from the act
Starting point is 00:13:56 to all intents and purposes look like perfectly mainstream guys we're not talking about kind of like you know unfortunate drug addicts like hopeless
Starting point is 00:14:03 it was like this night's carried on too long and now you've kind of like, you know, unfortunate drug addicts, like hopeless. It was like, this night's carried on too long. Now you've kind of gone over the threshold, really. And it's Wednesday. That is a shame, isn't it? Yeah. It depressed me a bit. It makes you feel sick. To the pit of your stomach.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Made me feel like I need to get away from here as quickly as possible. I want to eat my chocolate. Jumped on the line bike, cycled in, gave everyone the brief about the Hurricane Donaldson potentially make a landfall. I was on a line bike at that moment in time. You shouldn't have been on one. No, I shouldn't have been on one.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I was like, shall I do Holloway Road or shall I do the Backstreet? Backstreet, please. I don't care if it takes twice as long. I once saw a man underneath a bus on Holloway Road and it did not end well. He died, unfortunately. How did you see that? Why have you told that story now? What did not end well. He died, unfortunately. How did you see that?
Starting point is 00:14:46 Why have you told that story now? What? What do you mean? And he died, unfortunately. What are you doing? What do you mean? You're building up a bit of atmosphere there,
Starting point is 00:14:53 building up a bit of camaraderie. You've killed it now. I'm not. You've done Gary Neville on the overlap. You've killed it dead. Stop calling me Gary Neville. You've really gone off Gary Neville.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I don't know why. I have. It's true. I can't argue with that. I think podcast pundits and TV pundits, there's been a real shift over this year, hasn't there? We've got a lot of pundits who present effectively the news, the sports news, turning into kind of gagsmen.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Did you hear my point about Lineker on the Ramble did you hear that did you agree with that no I agree I think he's he's in danger of
Starting point is 00:15:31 becoming incredibly irrelevant because he just wants to be friends with Alan Shearer do you know what I think might have happened I think he might been told that his BBC contract's not being renewed
Starting point is 00:15:39 oh do you reckon and he's got to be right okay because you're right it's a massive problem that you know you want to be the guy who when people turn their telly on
Starting point is 00:15:47 to watch a big England game, you are the guy. And that's an amazing thing. And he's actually good at that. Authority and kind of proximity to the news story is so important. You remember when Des Liner moved from BBC to ITV?
Starting point is 00:15:59 Yeah. And killed his career. Yeah. Like everybody who moved from BBC to ITV killed their career. And then he went UKIP, didn't he, after that, Des Larnham? He went proper UKIP.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Right, interesting. He did a proper heel turn before it was fashionable to go mad. Right. Kilroy-esque heel turn. Yeah, he'd been Kilroy 20 years ahead of the game. Anyway, carry on. But, like, do you not think that, like,
Starting point is 00:16:17 you lose that authority and you lose that legitimacy and you lose your career? Because you get your big pay, do you? You get your million pound a year and then you've only got two or three more contracts before that's done. When I worked with Mark, I used to work with Mark Chapman a bit, who's brilliant and a really good guy.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And he was saying to me that, you know, the biggest thing you've got to do in this job is you've got to be, we were talking about it, the term that he or I use, one of us use, is you've got to be basically the grout in the tiling yeah don't ever feel like you're the tile you're really important
Starting point is 00:16:47 but you're not noticeable and you can't become the story and how many times in the last few years has Link become the story a lot
Starting point is 00:16:55 yeah but I mean I don't mind his personal life you know doing what he wants to do on Twitter to me it feels like it feels to
Starting point is 00:17:03 let me give you another example do you remember Michelle Rue junior who was having an amazing career on the BBC with MasterChef you know, doing what he wants to do. No, same, but it's got, to me it feels like, it feels to, let me give you another example. Do you remember Michelle Rue, junior, who was having an amazing career on the BBC, the master chef, doing all these cooking programs,
Starting point is 00:17:10 really great on telly, proper charismatic, super successful guy. The BBC killed him dead because he wouldn't give up a 120 year long tradition that he had with his, the Rue family
Starting point is 00:17:21 and Albert Bartlett potatoes. Right. Because they said, you can't do it. It's a conflict of interest. You can't host, like, what's it called?
Starting point is 00:17:29 Marquee BBC programs like MasterChef and have a vested interest in this company that does food. Right. Right? And his point, and he left.
Starting point is 00:17:37 He said, okay, fine. I'll leave them. I can't betray this relationship because it's been going on for so long. I'll do something else. So he left. He made the point
Starting point is 00:17:45 I think it was in his press release or whatever it was Gary Lineker's doing exactly the same thing has been doing it for years and the only reason you've got to get out
Starting point is 00:17:53 is because you're saying it's not food programming but it's exactly the same thing i.e. Walker's crisps and it feels to me with the BBC that if you're a certain level you're massively powerful
Starting point is 00:18:02 that's always been the case I suppose that's why Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross got busted as well I guess what because there was just no check on their power
Starting point is 00:18:09 yeah but I mean they were just they've just been fucking idiots and I've been actually listening to a couple of his little interviews with the Trumps
Starting point is 00:18:18 and stuff fascinating is it fascinating he's not contortions I was about to say I was literally about to say
Starting point is 00:18:25 is it all rhetorical gymnastics that he's doing yeah it's all just to get himself into that place yeah a lot of Jesus stuff do you reckon he believes it or not nah
Starting point is 00:18:32 he doesn't believe it I mean I don't think I think it is I think the Jesus stuff is certainly a cynical right wing
Starting point is 00:18:39 sort of mouthpiece sort of American play isn't it really and he feels like he's been stitched up he feels like he's been stitched up he feels like
Starting point is 00:18:45 he's been stitched up because of the way all this court case stuff yeah but he just feels that's what happens when you
Starting point is 00:18:51 do you know him no you haven't worked with him or anything no I met him once I think okay
Starting point is 00:18:58 but I just get the sense that isn't it interesting that whenever you're caught like a cage animal you just turn into that person you sort of go
Starting point is 00:19:05 right I'm right wing this is the only way I can make money selling vitamin tablets and talking about freedom of the press and this is that particular area of it
Starting point is 00:19:14 like Trump's particularly the projection is unbelievable I mean it's basically straight projection the whole time and it's so easy to see for it's so transparent the brand thing
Starting point is 00:19:23 I did see I definitely did see the scandal that's brand thing I did see I definitely did see the scandal that's come out I did see that coming I don't know him I think I might have been in the same room with him once or twice
Starting point is 00:19:31 just through work and stuff but I I kind of wasn't let me put a fine point in it I wasn't surprised by that stuff no I was surprised
Starting point is 00:19:40 by the proper leaning to the right wing conspiracy stuff because the thing with him is I always thought of him as being super clever and the conspiracy theory types tend to be just enough education to perform
Starting point is 00:19:51 clever enough to convince stupid people but not clever enough that they have to hold themselves up to scrutiny. There's very few really quite intelligent cynical people I would say. There are like you said the people who skirt that kind of intelligent not intelligent kind of thing. Which is why footballers are so prone to it.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Right. A lot of time on their hands, invariably quite a lot of money, have an inflated sense of themselves because they've always been bigged up their whole lives. Mossad. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:17 The Athletic did a really interesting thing about Ricky Lambert and his story and how it points towards where he's gone to, where he's gone to. where he's gone to. And it's to do with stuff like a real mistrust for authority because of the way in his particular career arc as a footballer, he's essentially been treated like a piece of meat
Starting point is 00:20:34 by people in authority. Like, you're out of contract, we don't want you anymore, see you later. You've got an injury, you're not going to make it this club, go. There's no aftercare. Every single person he's looked up to in his really formative influential years
Starting point is 00:20:45 has been like older men fucking mugging him off basically and he's had no leadership or guidance in his life so he's got this grown up with this
Starting point is 00:20:52 inherent mistrust for all these authority figures that's an interesting take I suppose yeah that doesn't make sense anyway
Starting point is 00:21:00 he could just be a moron he could just be he couldn't actually believe it let's have a break because we're way over time, Peter, as usual. Do you know why, though? Because the chat's so white hot. Because the chat's so white hot.
Starting point is 00:21:09 My head's hot. It's a little pitch up. That's no way to start a show, is it? For the second half? You're not starting the show, really. I'm continuing it in many ways. Yeah. What's the big scandal that's going to sink you, mate?
Starting point is 00:21:22 I don't know. I reckon you might accidentally, maybe accidentally know. I think some kind of... I reckon you might accidentally, maybe accidentally on purpose, make some kind of bomb. What? Yeah, inadvertently in my shed, in my apology cabin.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Yeah. And they might find some literature about put two and two together, get five. Yeah. You're going down for life. Yeah, because I wouldn't be able to talk myself out of it, I suppose. No, you'd get tied up in knots.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I had to do this. I was going, I could do loads of things if I put my mind to it, yeah. Just unprompted, you start talking about all the fertilizer you've bought. out of it I suppose you get tied up in knots I had to do this I was going I could do loads of things if I put my mind to it just start unprompted you start talking about all the fertiliser you've bought
Starting point is 00:21:47 I do think like how like what would if I bought I don't know 20 bags of fertiliser from B&Q
Starting point is 00:21:56 does it flash up I think 20 bags would yeah yeah it just seems like a surely there's better ways of making a bomb
Starting point is 00:22:05 and not using fertiliser. Do you know what I mean? Like, what is it in fertiliser? Is it ammonia or something? What's it called? Is it ammonia nitrate or something like that? Right.
Starting point is 00:22:13 It's a particularly kind of I can't remember what the word is now. Pungent. Incendiary ingredient. But you know that in some parts of the United States because of the meth epidemic
Starting point is 00:22:21 I don't know if it's still the case but it was the case there's loads of flashpoints if you buy loads of stuff together in a certain shot
Starting point is 00:22:28 like the pseudoephedrine stuff you have to go to the Trumps for that I don't know
Starting point is 00:22:35 why I don't just divest out of politics and get into that legal like get into opioids or something
Starting point is 00:22:40 oh yeah just start Trump Valium yeah Trump I mean he loves Sudafed doesn't he yeah Trump Sudafed he's got he had Trump University Oh, what? Yeah, just start. Trump Valium. Yeah. Trump F... I mean, he loves Sudafed, doesn't he, basically?
Starting point is 00:22:46 Yeah, Trump Sudafed. He's got... He had Trump University, he had the Stakes, didn't he? Yeah. That's a weird one. You go from university to Stakes. The university,
Starting point is 00:22:55 I think, has now been... It's been essentially proven to be like a fraudulent enterprise entirely anyway. Was it all online? Did they have buildings? I think they might have had buildings. I can't really remember.
Starting point is 00:23:05 But yeah, it is weird. I mean, everything about it is quite weird. The brand would probably be stronger now, to be fair, Trump University. Because people would actively want to sort of, you know, learn how to become president.
Starting point is 00:23:15 What is Trump's stake? What do you mean? Like, it's just a bad stake, isn't it? Yeah. Speaking of the old opioids thing, have you read Patrick Radden Keefe's Empire of Pain? No.
Starting point is 00:23:25 About the Sackler family? Oh, the ones who did... It's all the opioids. What was their big one? Well, they made all their money in OxyContin. OxyContin, yeah. Is it OxyContin or Oxytocin? Oxytocin is the...
Starting point is 00:23:40 Is the chemical, isn't it? And then OxyContin is the product, I think. Oxytocin is the chemical that enables you, isn't it? And then OxyContin is the product, I think. Oxytocin is the chemical that enables you to give birth to children successfully in labour. Right. And what's the other one? OxyContin is the... OxyContin is the...
Starting point is 00:23:51 Anyway, the book itself, my goodness me. Honestly, it's not that far removed from straight, just bare face profiting from addiction and death. Yeah, yeah. And really leveraging the idea that the healthcare system is so fucked that people just, they'll just self- Get pills. Just self-
Starting point is 00:24:14 Self-medicate. Yeah, self-medicate, yeah. Shop around and stuff. I actually, I thought the book was good. I read it. I think I've read all of his. They're all really good. But that one was like particular.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I was thinking to myself, how you got through the legality of this? But just like, like, like just, I mean, just having these kind of reps, just sort of going on every sort of doctor surgery and just spending money,
Starting point is 00:24:32 just getting the doctors on side and stuff. Yeah. And they knew, they knew how addictive it was. Yeah. All of the studies were absolutely nonsense. It's remarkable, really.
Starting point is 00:24:42 He's written some good books. He also wrote Say Nothing, which I told you about, that Northern Ireland families book. Oh, really. He's written some good books. He also wrote Say Nothing, which I told you about, that Northern Ireland families book. Oh, decent. Cool. And he wrote The Snakehead about triads,
Starting point is 00:24:52 triad gangs in New York. Oh. Did you say New York there? Yeah. I thought you just stopped. No, triad gangs in New York, yeah. What do you mean I just stopped? You went,
Starting point is 00:25:01 triad gangs in New York. I don't know why I did that. I like it. You wouldn't find that in any broadcasting textbook. No, you wouldn't. stopped you went try again I don't know why I did that I like it you wouldn't find that in any broadcasting textbook no you wouldn't but you know Gary Lineker that's what we always say Gary Lineker follows me
Starting point is 00:25:11 on Twitter by the way does he now I've got some rogue followers on Twitter that I don't know what I've done to get them to warrant it
Starting point is 00:25:18 paranoid I've got Jake Humphrey as well oh and his lawyer and his legal team do you reckon that's what it is
Starting point is 00:25:24 nah he's just you've clearly mentioned him but he only follows about 500 people as well. Oh, and his lawyer and his legal team. Do you reckon that's what it is? Nah. He's just, you've clearly mentioned him. But he only follows about 500 people. Right. And I don't think Neville follows that many people either.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Right. So how am I in there? I don't want to be there. You said Gary Lineker. Did you mean Gary Neville? I meant Neville, right. I don't want to be in there. Why?
Starting point is 00:25:39 I just don't want to, I don't like... Actually, you've, it was one of like the ramble sort of social media clips you were talking was one of the ramble social media clips you were talking about, one of the Neville's, recently.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And would you have retweeted that? That's the test, isn't it? No, but this came along like... He's been following me for two years. Yeah, I know. But you still wouldn't retweet it. I think the reason... It seems crueler, doesn't it,
Starting point is 00:26:00 when you know there's a chance that someone might find it. I think the reason Humphrey follows me is because I, one of their team sent stack an email, right? Which is basically a piss take. Oh yeah. It's a bit like a free promo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:14 And so I emailed back saying, you're, you've embarrassed yourself. This is shameful. And don't email my junior members of staff asking for this shit again. Blah, blah. And I didn't get a reply to that.
Starting point is 00:26:27 But I did get Jake Humphrey following me on Twitter. So who knows? It could be related to that. Daddy's watching. Maybe Humphrey just doesn't have a team and it's just him doing everything. Does he think of himself as the podcast daddy, do you reckon? Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:38 But everyone knows actually really that you're the daddy. It's me, yeah. I'm the daddy around here. So did you have, finally before we go, did you have a nice time last night? Just to round it all off. Yeah, it was nice. It was good. Do you get bored of piss-ups at your age now?
Starting point is 00:26:51 I just don't do that many of them anymore, to be honest. I could do that on a Tuesday, to be honest. I could do it on dealing with this on a Wednesday. What, working? Well, working, but also having a hangover. Oh, right, okay. I'm not used to this. And I know I'll have it still tomorrow as well.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Will you get any sympathy when you get home later? No, no. Straight to... The opposite of sympathy, really. Yeah, I didn't do a bin day because I stayed around Al's. That's going to be... Oh, fuck. That's going to cost me.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And I bet you didn't tell Sarah you were staying out, did you? No, I did. I did. I said I was going to get a hotel because I was like... But, like, hotels around here are so expensive. Yeah. But my friend is very... They're hotels.
Starting point is 00:27:23 My friend is very cheap. Yeah. Yeah. Did he charge you or not he didn't know but I did get him some drinks for crying out loud
Starting point is 00:27:29 breakfast didn't know I had a breakfast of four ibuprofen that's too many isn't it I had two fell asleep for half an hour
Starting point is 00:27:40 woke up had another two that's like stomach pumping level isn't it if you're listening to this. That's liver screaming stuff. Don't do this.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Just because Pete does it doesn't mean you can do it. You can do it, but it'll cost you a few years off your life. Do the opposite to what Pete does. I told you about an uncle of mine I had who did, I think, 18 ibuprofen.
Starting point is 00:27:58 18. And he didn't die. I always think, remember when Gordon Ramsay did Hot Ones? Yeah. The wing thing. And he was just drinking Pepto Bismol like it was a milkshake. And doing big burps. He always think, remember when Gordon Ramsay did Hot Ones, the wing thing, and he was just drinking Pepto Bismol like it was a milkshake and doing big burps.
Starting point is 00:28:09 He'd go, and just drinking those Pepto Bismol. I think, I don't think doing that Hot Ones stuff or doing that kind of food generally is very good for you. No, I think it's awful. I think it was a,
Starting point is 00:28:20 I did one that was one of, I think it was one of Jack's mates was doing something and I did a, it was like a pork pie, kind of hot pork pie challenge. And I was ill, really ill for the next couple of days. Right. Hot food, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Yeah, I don't think it's, it's not going to be something that's going to do you very well in the future. It's probably, because some of that stuff going to do you very well in the future. It's probably... Because some of that stuff is actually man-made chemicals, right? It's not even... No, yeah, yeah. It's not even naturally occurring shit.
Starting point is 00:28:53 You'd have to go to some to find how hot a lot of that stuff is. Because they crossbreed different types, don't they? Right, to make them hotter. Was it the Swedes? There's a Danes, wasn't there? The Danes stopped selling that hot like you know
Starting point is 00:29:08 five chilli Korean Korean noodle thing have you had that I have had that I mean it's atrocious I mean like no one's enjoying that
Starting point is 00:29:16 it's awful absolutely awful but is the USP of it that it's just really hot yeah when when did you have it then when the packet is
Starting point is 00:29:22 like black rather than red to signify spicy like this is like, this is too hot. Pot Noodle Bombay Bad Boy does that, doesn't it? Pot Noodle Bombay Bad Boy. That's black in there? That is black. Do they still do Bombay Bad Boys? Is that the one that you decorated your foot with?
Starting point is 00:29:35 No, I think that was a commoner garden chow mein or something. Ugh, horrible. Anyway. Anyway, let's get out of here. Worse than doing cocaine on a table at 8 o'clock in the morning. That's roughly equal, I would say. Little packets. Little packets of powder.
Starting point is 00:29:50 If I had seen someone else walking into that prayer, I would have been a bad boy. Call the police. Going back to Glastonbury again, talking about Glastonbury stories. I can remember waking up in Glastonbury in a tent once to a load of really fucking loud crunching. And I was like, what the fuck is that?
Starting point is 00:30:07 You know, once you're awake in a tent, you're awake. I got up out of the tent, looked around. It was my mate's brother, older brother, who, like, couldn't be arsed to walk down to the thing and fill up the kettle and boil the kettle. So he just, like, poured some water out of a water bottle into a pot noodle, cold. He was just crunching through a cold pot.
Starting point is 00:30:23 I was like, like mate what the fuck are you doing savages we turn into savages it's very difficult to have any more disdain for him than I had at that point
Starting point is 00:30:32 and that was just horrendous so if I'd seen someone doing that outside the prep this morning that would have been as bad I think
Starting point is 00:30:37 but crucially it would have been legal exactly well we'll be back on Thursday for more of this the Luke and Pete show
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