The Luke and Pete Show - Tops off, let's kiss
Episode Date: July 1, 2024Luke admits he finally gets the whole alcohol-free beer thing, while Pete starts a fight club the moment the partner he has access to goes on a girls trip.Plus, Pete tells his own parable of Abraham c...arrying him through the waves.Want to get in touch with the show?Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Peter, you spent a lot of time hanging out with Vish.
I did, yeah.
Do you think you guys will become best friends?
I hope one day to get my own weidel and weedle my way into his heart.
You want to be short king with Vish?
The short kings.
I would say there was Ric Flair the sometimes maligned
slightly problematic
deservingly maligned
deservingly maligned
well I mean
deservingly maligned
but it's the
sort of stories
that he was
eventually
kind of quite rightly
put in the dock
dock for
not you know
legally but
put in the dock
emotionally
it's a metaphor
it's a metaphor
yeah
celebrated
like five years ago or maybe three years ago by the WWE.
Right.
They made cartoons of like,
you know,
him flashing a,
an air stewardess.
Um,
is he a hall of famer?
Oh,
very much so.
Yeah.
But he would,
um,
drink and party throughout the night.
Uh,
but he'd always be at the gym,
uh,
like five o'clock in the morning.
Yeah.
No matter what he did.
And,
um,
I felt this morning at seven o'clock,
I thought I'm going to be a passenger today in my life,
in my work.
But I was thinking,
well,
if Vish,
who was out later than I was,
is going to be able to,
is in the same state that I am,
there's going to be two passengers on the Ramble.
I don't think we can,
we can't carry two passengers.
What? Yeah. And then you're on the Ramble. I don't think we can, we can't carry two passengers. Well, yeah,
and then you're on the show as well. You're going to call me the taxi.
Exactly.
Shove you in the back and fucking take you where you need to go.
Yeah, and, but Vish is, was absolutely fine.
He was. He is
good at it. I've,
I've, I've fallen out of fear
with the sesh. You were fine as well.
This is the Luca Peach Pete show by the way
hello
it's Monday
the 1st of July today
although the running order
does say June
it's actually the 1st of July
July
and
we started off dry there
a little cold open
but we don't want people
to be confused
about what they're listening to
this is the Luke and Pete show
we're recording this
on the day
where we've just
hung out
for a kind of social event
the night before,
which is why Pete's talking
about his stuff with Vish.
I did actually say
to the guys this morning,
the producers,
I said,
look,
there's a chance
that some people,
I didn't mention any names,
some people may not be fit to work.
What a worry, what?
And the reason that happened,
I had that conversation,
is because one of the team,
months and months ago now,
to be fair,
turned up
and was simply
not fit for work.
It wasn't you.
It wasn't me.
I would have known that.
No, and so,
and it perturbed the guys.
So I had to give them
a little silly.
I see.
If this happens,
perturbed the guys.
Bear in mind,
the most recent evidence
which I woke up this morning
and saw
an Instagram story
from Vish
of you
smashing back shots
at the bar
which looked like
it came at about 2am.
I thought
I need to prepare
the ground here
just in case.
Right, okay.
It didn't come to pass.
You've been absolutely fine.
I'm happy to take that
on the chin
but I think by failing
to prepare
we may well be preparing
to fail
I think you're a silly
worry what
everything's fine really
I do know you though
I'll drive
I'll drive
give me the keys
give me the goddamn keys
sorry officer
those are definitely
his last words
give me the keys
when I nearly drowned
my last words
would have been
hey Sarah
check out
I can do this cool,
swim through this big wave.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've found this new way of swimming.
Do you think,
how do you,
drowning,
actually drowning?
I think,
like,
I think I've invented a new drum beat.
Do you,
do you,
do you,
that famous drowning,
non-drowning incident
that's what that would be.
Yeah.
That was a while ago now.
How do you look back on that?
Have you got a bit of PTSD about it?
I think there's something to be said.
And, you know, I will go on Instagram
and make like an e-book about it
and sort of, you know, charge people,
charge people 99p to, you know,
gain the knowledge that I have,
you know, hard-won knowledge that I've experienced,
I would say
just hide it away.
Hide those thoughts
and those feelings
and those kind of like anxieties.
Just put them down.
Ignore them.
That's more Alan Price's advice.
What did he say to the psychic, Simon?
And then every two weeks
drive to Thetford Forest
and scream as loud as you can
all Sunday.
And after that you'll be fine.
Do you look back on that almost drowning in Avony?
Do you still think about it?
I still think about Abraham
carrying me through the waves.
Do you?
Yeah.
You tell it's a really impactful part of your life
because you actually remember the lifeguard's name.
Well, it's very biblical, isn't it?
It is.
It's a very biblical name.
Imagine if he was called Moses.
Yeah.
And he actually parted the water.
Parted the water, yeah.
Yeah. But you were frightened, weren't you? he was called Moses. Yeah. And he actually parted the water. Parted the water, yeah. Yeah.
But you were frightened, weren't you?
I was nearly dead.
That is...
You keep saying that, but you don't give any detail.
People don't know what you mean.
I was nearly drowned.
I was out to sea, and I was nearly drowning,
and I was finding it very hard to stay above water.
And the lifeguard saved me.
Yeah.
And on a day where,
the night before,
I drank too much,
I don't need those emotions in my soul.
And as you sit here now,
would you say you've learned your lesson?
No.
Because I nearly drank myself,
I nearly drowned yesterday.
In baby Guinnesses.
In Baileys.
I can't believe you told
the production staff
that I might be too...
I didn't say that.
You've interpreted it in that way.
One of us.
I've said, you know, as a general point for the team,
which is my job, by the way,
you might have noticed last night I wasn't drinking to excess.
Right, okay, fine.
Work today.
Work today, right.
And we'll come onto that in a minute.
It's endless, isn't it?
With the Euros, work's endless. We've got a new member of staff. He's only started a couple of weeks ago. today, right. And we'll come on to that in a minute. It's endless, isn't it? With the Euros, work's endless.
We've got a new member of staff
who's only started
a couple of weeks ago.
Right, okay.
This is the situation
it makes us at the start of the day.
This is how you should deal with it.
That's what they need.
Right, okay.
Don't be talking to them like,
Daddy, Daddy is going to
have a quiet day today.
Yeah.
Daddy's relaxation.
Yeah, Dad.
Like, no sudden moves.
If you don't get between Peter and his young, all it's relaxation yeah like no sudden moves if you don't get
between Peter
and his young
all it's kind of like
how to deal with a bear
I'm a bit confused
that you're annoyed
that I'm trying to
responsibly run our company
that's what I'm confused about
no but I don't need
I know
I can be hung over
and still turn
in a turgid performance
I know you can still
you can be hung over
yeah
I think pound for pound I am top 30% and still turn into a turgid performance. I know you could still be hungover, yeah.
I think pound for pound, I am top 30%. I've just said that you're absolutely fine.
There's nothing wrong with it.
It's fine.
But I was on the, do you know what I've discovered?
What?
Alcohol-free beer.
Yeah, if you have like about five pints,
then you're like, I don't need another one of these.
But I do like a fizzy lager, so let's have an alcohol-free lager.
There's something that kind of lends, I never really kind of got it these, but I do like a fizzy lager, so let's have an alcohol-free lager. There's something that kind of lends...
I've never really kind of got it before,
but I do understand...
You have to have the alcohol one first, though,
I would say.
That's what I do.
I don't think you have to,
but that's what I do.
It doesn't make you a better driver.
No, it doesn't.
When I'm standing there watching, say,
an England game in the pub,
and it's like the summer,
and you've got that kind of...
There's the heat of the summer,
and it's all very nostalgic and reminiscent of like...
In a summer dress.
Yeah, and I'm wearing, I was actually wearing a pretty nice fit yesterday as well.
You are, you're wearing a...
Have you, hang on, have you bought two of the same sort of shackety kind of shirts?
No, it's just a different brand.
In different...
It's different.
Oh, right, okay.
Yeah, it's different.
They're both toweling.
Yeah, it's the same material.
I had no idea you were so into toweling this summer.
No, I had no idea until about two weeks ago.
Right.
And I thought, I'm going to give this a go.
Terry Towels.
Anyway, there's something about,
if you stand watching an England game on the big screen
and you're surrounded by your pals
or there's a bit of an atmosphere going,
the weather's warm, you're in shorts.
It's like, that's happened to me every other summer
for like my whole life.
Right.
And if I'm holding a Diet Coke or something,
it doesn't hit the same.
Even if I don't want a beer
because I'm working the next day,
an alcohol-free lager does the trick
because I feel like I'm still drinking.
Yeah.
And I would also say that I think with the Euros though,
like we frequently work over the weekends.
So where's our...
All the day's work, yeah.
There's always work to be done, isn't there?
But you're saying that from the point of view
of someone who always needs some kind of piss-off outlet,
don't you?
What, like to watch it out?
And you're saying you can't get one
because you work on weekends.
I can't get, no.
Is this what you say to your...
Didn't have one on the weekend?
To your partner.
Sarah was at the Isle of Wight Festival and...
Oh, yeah, you were on solo.
I was on solo.
Flying solo.
Solo doggy duty.
Yeah, it was good.
You sent me a video of the two dogs fighting. Yeah, it was good. You sent me a video of these two dogs
fighting. Yeah, I was
unrelated. You're goading
them into it. I'm starting a dog
fighting league. We're doing this fighting thing.
We're doing a dog.
Yeah, I've sold the videos to
an Eastern Europe shadowy
businessman. I liked the videos of the
dogs fighting. What I didn't like was you in the
background in a vest pulling muscle poses.
UFC, the Ultimate Dog League.
Yeah, UDL.
That sounds bad.
What's the Defence League?
Yeah, probably.
How did you go?
That was almost EDL, isn't it?
Yeah.
Oh, Robinson.
You know what?
Tommy Robinson, quite short, isn't he?
I think I might be a source of a lot of this.
Yeah, could be.
When he was getting arrested for having a succulent Chinese meal
and getting put in a wagon,
he's tiny compared to the blokes who are arresting him.
I don't know whether it's just the milk-fed men
of north of the border Canada, Calgary or wherever the hell he was.
Yeah.
They're just big guys.
But he's a little guy, isn't he?
He is a little fella.
And he can't leave the country now.
He never gets...
It's their problem.
He can't leave Canada?
Can't leave Canada.
He's had his passport taken off him.
Why didn't someone think of that before?
I know.
Why can't we exile him somewhere else?
Just invite him to a pseudo-intellectual debate in Canada.
Done that in about 2002.
None of this would have happened.
I'm surprised that he's surprised that,
I don't know what visa, whatever situation he may or may not
be guilty of in this case,
but he was literally chucked out of the US
for travelling on a fake passport,
no, sorry, someone else's passport effectively.
Right.
So I imagine he can't have that many complaints
when an organisation or a government says,
can we have a look at that visa, please?
Yeah.
Can we have a look at that passport, please?
Surely he's not just going in there as a tourist.
He's doing a speaking tour,
so probably would need a visa.
If you go to the US just for a meeting,
you don't need a visa.
No, but I think if you're taking money out of the country,
which he's doing by doing a speaking tour
yeah
I think
it's different
why is he
why are they
inviting him there
anyway
I don't know
she's like a football
hooligan
they just sort of
feel like it's
he doesn't ever
say anything
like it's above him
he doesn't even
say anything
why do they need him
yeah
why doesn't he
get bored of
just getting
parled in and out
of police wagons
all the time
he's just constantly
I think we spoke about it before where he was, like,
cadging five quid off a random stranger in the street.
Yeah.
It's for the cause.
For the cause.
Yeah.
It's going straight up his nose.
Fucking hell.
Of course it is.
Speaking of which...
What?
I told you this earlier.
I didn't say it on the round ball because I didn't think it would be appropriate,
but I'm going to say it on this show.
I cycled into the office...
Vish was wired today.
No, not when he's...
Oh, you ain't got the balls to say that when he's here.
I would say that, and he would laugh and go,
ha ha, yes Pete, my drinking friend.
And then we'd embrace and kiss.
Tops off.
Tops off.
Yeah, great.
On the way in this morning,
I cycled through Exmouth Market,
which for those people who don't know London
very well is a
it's a market
it's not
it's quite a little
trendy bit
a little trendy bit
between Farringdon
and Angel really
am I thinking of
am I thinking of
that place that's
I'm thinking of the one
that's in Liverpool Street
what market's that
that's like a little
kind of eatery
yeah it might be
actually Spitalfield
similar vibe though isn't it but Exmouth Market is really small it's just one little side street really there like a little kind of eatery. Yeah, it might be actually Spitalfields. Similar vibe,
though, isn't it?
But Exford Market's
really small.
It's just one little
side street, really.
There's a little
kind of pop-up
tent selling food.
There's a couple
of nice restaurants there.
So you've got
a quality chop house
there and one or two
others.
Anyway, there's always
a Pret in there.
It's always open.
It's always empty.
And the one right
near our office
is always really busy.
So if I want to get
some breakfast on the way in
because I'm at a time
to have breakfast
on the way into the office,
I pause the line back outside, pop in.
Are you not worried that you're not going to be able to pick it up again?
No, because you just pause it.
You don't end it.
Oh.
Just do a little pause, mate.
Right.
It's fine.
How long do you get?
I think you need up to 15 minutes on the pause.
Ooh.
Get charged.
Right.
Yeah, that's fair.
So, yeah.
Anyway.
So we're recording this the day after an England game, the night before. So we're recording this the day after an England game,
the night before.
So we're recording this the day after the Slovenia game,
to give you a bit of context.
And I parked my line bike up.
I was vaguely aware of a couple of guys sat at a table outside,
but I didn't really pay much attention to them.
This is like probably 8 a.m.
Yeah.
Go in there, bought a chocolate croissant. Ooh. And a little breakfast bowl a.m. Yeah. Go in there, buy, I bought a chocolate croissant.
Ooh.
And a little breakfast bowl thing.
Bonjour.
Yeah.
And as I was walking out, there's a little kind of whores to get out
because a couple of people were coming in,
so I was almost holding the door.
So I looked over at these guys.
One of them, there's two of them there.
One's got an English shirt on, right?
So they've obviously been out on the old Saucinho.
Right.
Bit of a gargle on the old Plon Corosa
and one of them's just chopping up a line
on the coffee
the little table outside of prayer
at 8 in the morning
on a Wednesday morning and it's a hot day as well
already warm
and you're going to be hot
and you're going to need a poo
and it's just
there's nothing good about that there's nothing good about that, is there?
There's nothing good about any of that.
If you could get the consent, I'd film
that and I'd play that in schools.
That's where you're going to end up. Nothing good about it.
He's like, I need to do this.
This is great.
As soon as that, you know,
starts going up my nose, this is great.
This is the best I'm going to feel all day.
This is the best I'm going to feel all week this is the best I'm going to feel all week
this is the only way
I'm going to get through work today
which makes it even worse
right
but I need to
I need to really
emphasise the idea
that like
these guys
apart from the act
to all intents and purposes
look like perfectly
mainstream guys
we're not talking about
kind of like
you know
unfortunate drug addicts
like hopeless
it was like this night's carried on too long and now you've kind of like, you know, unfortunate drug addicts, like hopeless. It was like, this night's carried on too long.
Now you've kind of gone over the threshold, really.
And it's Wednesday.
That is a shame, isn't it?
Yeah.
It depressed me a bit.
It makes you feel sick.
To the pit of your stomach.
Made me feel like I need to get away from here as quickly as possible.
I want to eat my chocolate.
Jumped on the line bike, cycled in,
gave everyone the brief about the Hurricane Donaldson
potentially make a landfall.
I was on a line bike at that moment in time.
You shouldn't have been on one.
No, I shouldn't have been on one.
I was like, shall I do Holloway Road
or shall I do the Backstreet?
Backstreet, please.
I don't care if it takes twice as long.
I once saw a man underneath a bus on Holloway Road
and it did not end well.
He died, unfortunately.
How did you see that? Why have you told that story now? What did not end well. He died, unfortunately. How did you see that?
Why have you told that story now?
What?
What do you mean?
And he died, unfortunately.
What are you doing?
What do you mean?
You're building up
a bit of atmosphere there,
building up a bit of camaraderie.
You've killed it now.
I'm not.
You've done Gary Neville
on the overlap.
You've killed it dead.
Stop calling me Gary Neville.
You've really gone off Gary Neville.
I don't know why.
I have.
It's true.
I can't argue with that.
I think podcast pundits and TV pundits,
there's been a real shift over this year, hasn't there?
We've got a lot of pundits who present effectively the news,
the sports news, turning into kind of gagsmen.
Did you hear my point
about Lineker on the Ramble
did you hear that
did you agree with that
no I agree
I think
he's
he's in danger of
becoming incredibly irrelevant
because he just wants to be
friends with Alan Shearer
do you know what I think
might have happened
I think he might
been told that his
BBC contract's not being renewed
oh do you reckon
and he's got to be
right okay
because you're right
it's a massive problem
that
you know you want to be the guy
who when people turn their telly on
to watch a big England game,
you are the guy.
And that's an amazing thing.
And he's actually good at that.
Authority and kind of proximity
to the news story is so important.
You remember when Des Liner
moved from BBC to ITV?
Yeah.
And killed his career.
Yeah.
Like everybody who moved
from BBC to ITV killed their career.
And then he went UKIP, didn't he,
after that, Des Larnham?
He went proper UKIP.
Right, interesting.
He did a proper heel turn
before it was fashionable to go mad.
Right.
Kilroy-esque heel turn.
Yeah, he'd been Kilroy 20 years ahead of the game.
Anyway, carry on.
But, like, do you not think that, like,
you lose that authority
and you lose that legitimacy
and you lose your career?
Because you get your big pay, do you?
You get your million pound a year
and then you've only got two or three more contracts before that's done.
When I worked with Mark, I used to work with Mark Chapman a bit,
who's brilliant and a really good guy.
And he was saying to me that, you know,
the biggest thing you've got to do in this job is you've got to be,
we were talking about it, the term that he or I use,
one of us use, is you've got to be basically the grout in the tiling
yeah
don't ever feel like
you're the tile
you're really important
but you're not
noticeable
and you can't
become the story
and how many times
in the last few years
has Link become the story
a lot
yeah but I mean
I don't mind his
personal life
you know
doing what he wants
to do on Twitter
to me it feels like
it feels to
let me give you
another example
do you remember Michelle Rue junior who was having an amazing career on the BBC with MasterChef you know, doing what he wants to do. No, same, but it's got, to me it feels like, it feels to, let me give you another example.
Do you remember Michelle Rue,
junior,
who was having an amazing career on the BBC,
the master chef,
doing all these cooking programs,
really great on telly,
proper charismatic,
super successful guy.
The BBC killed him dead
because he wouldn't give up
a 120 year long tradition
that he had with his,
the Rue family
and Albert Bartlett potatoes.
Right.
Because they said,
you can't do it.
It's a conflict of interest.
You can't host,
like,
what's it called?
Marquee BBC programs
like MasterChef
and have a vested interest
in this company that does food.
Right.
Right?
And his point,
and he left.
He said,
okay, fine.
I'll leave them.
I can't betray this relationship
because it's been going on for so long.
I'll do something else.
So he left.
He made the point
I think it was in his
press release
or whatever it was
Gary Lineker's doing
exactly the same thing
has been doing it for years
and the only reason
you've got to get out
is because you're saying
it's not food programming
but it's exactly the same thing
i.e. Walker's crisps
and it feels to me
with the BBC
that if you're a certain level
you're massively powerful
that's always been the case
I suppose
that's why Russell Brand
and Jonathan Ross
got busted as well I guess
what because
there was just
no check on their power
yeah but I mean
they were just
they've just been
fucking idiots
and I've been actually
listening to a couple
of his little interviews
with the Trumps
and stuff
fascinating
is it
fascinating
he's not
contortions
I was about to say
I was literally about to say
is it all rhetorical gymnastics
that he's doing
yeah it's all just
to get himself into that place
yeah
a lot of Jesus stuff
do you reckon he believes it or not
nah
he doesn't believe it
I mean
I don't think
I think it is
I think the Jesus stuff
is certainly a
cynical
right wing
sort of
mouthpiece
sort of American play
isn't it
really
and he feels like he's been
stitched up
he feels like he's been stitched up he feels like
he's been stitched up
because of the way
all this
court case stuff
yeah
but he just feels
that's what happens
when you
do you know him
no
you haven't worked
with him or anything
no
I met him once
I think
okay
but I just get
the sense that
isn't it interesting
that whenever you're
caught like a cage animal
you just turn into
that person
you sort of go
right I'm right wing
this is the only way
I can make money
selling vitamin tablets
and talking about
freedom of the press
and this is
that particular area of it
like Trump's particularly
the projection is unbelievable
I mean it's basically
straight projection
the whole time
and it's so easy to see
for it's so transparent
the brand thing
I did see
I definitely did see the scandal that's brand thing I did see I definitely did see
the scandal that's come out
I did see that coming
I don't know him
I think I might have been
in the same room
with him once or twice
just through work and stuff
but I
I kind of wasn't
let me put a fine point in it
I wasn't surprised
by that stuff
no
I was surprised
by the proper
leaning to the right wing
conspiracy stuff
because the thing with him
is I always thought of him as
being super clever and
the conspiracy theory types tend to be
just enough education to perform
clever enough to convince stupid people
but not clever enough that they have to
hold themselves up to scrutiny. There's very few
really quite intelligent cynical
people I would say. There are
like you said the people who skirt that kind of
intelligent not intelligent kind of thing.
Which is why footballers are so prone to it.
Right.
A lot of time on their hands,
invariably quite a lot of money,
have an inflated sense of themselves
because they've always been bigged up
their whole lives.
Mossad.
Yeah, exactly.
The Athletic did a really interesting thing
about Ricky Lambert and his story
and how it points towards where he's gone to,
where he's gone to. where he's gone to.
And it's to do with stuff like a real mistrust
for authority because of the way
in his particular career arc as a footballer,
he's essentially been treated like a piece of meat
by people in authority.
Like, you're out of contract,
we don't want you anymore, see you later.
You've got an injury,
you're not going to make it this club, go.
There's no aftercare.
Every single person he's looked up to
in his really formative influential years
has been like
older men
fucking mugging him off
basically
and he's had no leadership
or guidance in his life
so he's got this
grown up with this
inherent mistrust
for all these
authority figures
that's an interesting
take I suppose
yeah
that doesn't make sense
anyway
he could just be a moron
he could just be
he couldn't actually believe it
let's have a break
because we're way over time, Peter, as usual.
Do you know why, though?
Because the chat's so white hot.
Because the chat's so white hot.
My head's hot.
It's a little pitch up.
That's no way to start a show, is it?
For the second half?
You're not starting the show, really.
I'm continuing it in many ways.
Yeah.
What's the big scandal that's going to sink you, mate?
I don't know.
I reckon you might accidentally, maybe accidentally know. I think some kind of...
I reckon you might accidentally,
maybe accidentally on purpose,
make some kind of bomb.
What?
Yeah, inadvertently in my shed,
in my apology cabin.
Yeah.
And they might find some literature about
put two and two together, get five.
Yeah.
You're going down for life.
Yeah, because I wouldn't be able
to talk myself out of it, I suppose.
No, you'd get tied up in knots.
I had to do this.
I was going,
I could do loads of things
if I put my mind to it, yeah.
Just unprompted, you start talking about all the fertilizer you've bought. out of it I suppose you get tied up in knots I had to do this I was going I could do loads of things if I put my mind to it just start
unprompted
you start talking about
all the fertiliser you've bought
I do think like
how
like
what would
if I bought
I don't know
20 bags of fertiliser
from B&Q
does it flash up
I think
20 bags would
yeah
yeah
it just seems like a
surely there's better ways
of making a bomb
and not using fertiliser.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, what is it in fertiliser?
Is it ammonia or something?
What's it called?
Is it ammonia nitrate
or something like that?
Right.
It's a particularly kind of
I can't remember
what the word is now.
Pungent.
Incendiary ingredient.
But you know that
in some parts of the United States
because of the meth epidemic
I don't know if it's still the case
but it was the case
there's loads of
flashpoints if you
buy loads of
stuff together
in a certain
shot
like the
pseudoephedrine
stuff
you have to
go to the
Trumps for
that
I don't know
why I don't
just divest
out of politics
and get into
that legal
like get into
opioids or
something
oh yeah
just start
Trump Valium
yeah
Trump
I mean he loves Sudafed doesn't he yeah Trump Sudafed he's got he had Trump University Oh, what? Yeah, just start. Trump Valium. Yeah. Trump F...
I mean, he loves Sudafed,
doesn't he, basically?
Yeah, Trump Sudafed.
He's got...
He had Trump University,
he had the Stakes, didn't he?
Yeah.
That's a weird one.
You go from university to Stakes.
The university,
I think, has now been...
It's been essentially proven
to be like a fraudulent enterprise
entirely anyway.
Was it all online?
Did they have buildings?
I think they might have had buildings.
I can't really remember.
But yeah, it is weird.
I mean, everything about it is quite weird.
The brand would probably be stronger now,
to be fair,
Trump University.
Because people would actively want to sort of,
you know,
learn how to become president.
What is Trump's stake?
What do you mean?
Like, it's just a bad stake, isn't it?
Yeah.
Speaking of the old opioids thing,
have you read Patrick Radden Keefe's
Empire of Pain?
No.
About the Sackler family?
Oh, the ones who did...
It's all the opioids.
What was their big one?
Well, they made all their money in OxyContin.
OxyContin, yeah.
Is it OxyContin or Oxytocin?
Oxytocin is the...
Is the chemical, isn't it?
And then OxyContin is the product, I think.
Oxytocin is the chemical that enables you, isn't it? And then OxyContin is the product, I think. Oxytocin is the chemical that enables you
to give birth to children successfully in labour.
Right.
And what's the other one?
OxyContin is the...
OxyContin is the...
Anyway, the book itself, my goodness me.
Honestly, it's not that far removed from straight,
just bare face profiting from addiction and death.
Yeah, yeah.
And really leveraging the idea that the healthcare system is so fucked
that people just, they'll just self-
Get pills.
Just self-
Self-medicate.
Yeah, self-medicate, yeah.
Shop around and stuff.
I actually, I thought the book was good.
I read it.
I think I've read all of his.
They're all really good.
But that one was like particular.
I was thinking to myself, how you got through the legality of this?
But just like,
like,
like just,
I mean,
just having these kind of reps,
just sort of going on every sort of doctor surgery
and just spending money,
just getting the doctors on side and stuff.
Yeah.
And they knew,
they knew how addictive it was.
Yeah.
All of the studies were absolutely nonsense.
It's remarkable,
really.
He's written some good books.
He also wrote Say Nothing, which I told you about, that Northern Ireland families book. Oh, really. He's written some good books. He also wrote Say Nothing,
which I told you about,
that Northern Ireland families book.
Oh, decent.
Cool.
And he wrote The Snakehead
about triads,
triad gangs in New York.
Oh.
Did you say New York there?
Yeah.
I thought you just stopped.
No, triad gangs in New York, yeah.
What do you mean I just stopped?
You went,
triad gangs in New York.
I don't know why I did that.
I like it. You wouldn't find that in any broadcasting textbook. No, you wouldn't. stopped you went try again I don't know why I did that I like it you wouldn't find that
in any broadcasting textbook
no you wouldn't
but you know Gary Lineker
that's what we always say
Gary Lineker follows me
on Twitter by the way
does he now
I've got some rogue
followers on Twitter
that I don't know
what I've done to
get them
to warrant it
paranoid
I've got Jake Humphrey
as well
oh
and his lawyer
and his legal team
do you reckon
that's what it is
nah he's just you've clearly mentioned him but he only follows about 500 people as well. Oh, and his lawyer and his legal team. Do you reckon that's what it is?
Nah.
He's just,
you've clearly mentioned him.
But he only follows about 500 people.
Right.
And I don't think Neville
follows that many people either.
Right.
So how am I in there?
I don't want to be there.
You said Gary Lineker.
Did you mean Gary Neville?
I meant Neville, right.
I don't want to be in there.
Why?
I just don't want to,
I don't like...
Actually,
you've,
it was one of like
the ramble
sort of social media clips you were talking was one of the ramble social media clips
you were talking about, one of the Neville's, recently.
And would you have retweeted that?
That's the test, isn't it?
No, but this came along like...
He's been following me for two years.
Yeah, I know.
But you still wouldn't retweet it.
I think the reason...
It seems crueler, doesn't it,
when you know there's a chance that someone might find it.
I think the reason Humphrey follows me is because I,
one of their team sent stack an email,
right?
Which is basically a piss take.
Oh yeah.
It's a bit like a free promo.
Yeah.
And so I emailed back saying,
you're,
you've embarrassed yourself.
This is shameful.
And don't email my junior members of staff asking for this shit again.
Blah,
blah.
And I didn't get a reply to that.
But I did get Jake Humphrey following me on Twitter.
So who knows?
It could be related to that.
Daddy's watching.
Maybe Humphrey just doesn't have a team and it's just him doing everything.
Does he think of himself as the podcast daddy, do you reckon?
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
But everyone knows actually really that you're the daddy.
It's me, yeah.
I'm the daddy around here.
So did you have, finally before we go, did you have a nice time last night?
Just to round it all off.
Yeah, it was nice.
It was good.
Do you get bored of piss-ups at your age now?
I just don't do that many of them anymore, to be honest.
I could do that on a Tuesday, to be honest.
I could do it on dealing with this on a Wednesday.
What, working?
Well, working, but also having a hangover.
Oh, right, okay.
I'm not used to this.
And I know I'll have it still tomorrow as well.
Will you get any sympathy when you get home later?
No, no.
Straight to...
The opposite of sympathy, really.
Yeah, I didn't do a bin day because I stayed around Al's.
That's going to be...
Oh, fuck.
That's going to cost me.
And I bet you didn't tell Sarah you were staying out, did you?
No, I did.
I did.
I said I was going to get a hotel because I was like...
But, like, hotels around here are so expensive.
Yeah.
But my friend is very...
They're hotels.
My friend is very cheap.
Yeah.
Yeah. Did he charge you
or not
he didn't know
but I did get him
some drinks
for crying out loud
breakfast
didn't know
I had a breakfast
of four ibuprofen
that's too many
isn't it
I had two
fell asleep for half an hour
woke up
had another two
that's like
stomach pumping level
isn't it
if you're listening to this.
That's liver screaming stuff.
Don't do this.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Just because Pete does it doesn't mean you can do it.
You can do it, but it'll cost you a few years off your life.
Do the opposite to what Pete does.
I told you about an uncle of mine I had who did, I think, 18 ibuprofen.
18.
And he didn't die.
I always think, remember when Gordon Ramsay did Hot Ones?
Yeah.
The wing thing.
And he was just drinking Pepto Bismol like it was a milkshake. And doing big burps. He always think, remember when Gordon Ramsay did Hot Ones, the wing thing, and he was just drinking Pepto Bismol
like it was a milkshake
and doing big burps.
He'd go,
and just drinking those Pepto Bismol.
I think,
I don't think doing that Hot Ones stuff
or doing that kind of food generally
is very good for you.
No, I think it's awful.
I think it was a,
I did one that was one of,
I think it was one of Jack's mates was doing something
and I did a, it was like a pork pie,
kind of hot pork pie challenge.
And I was ill, really ill for the next couple of days.
Right.
Hot food, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't think it's,
it's not going to be something that's going to do you very well
in the future.
It's probably, because some of that stuff going to do you very well in the future. It's probably...
Because some of that stuff is actually man-made chemicals, right?
It's not even...
No, yeah, yeah.
It's not even naturally occurring shit.
You'd have to go to some to find how hot a lot of that stuff is.
Because they crossbreed different types, don't they?
Right, to make them hotter.
Was it the Swedes?
There's a Danes, wasn't there?
The Danes stopped selling
that hot
like you know
five chilli
Korean
Korean noodle thing
have you had that
I have had that
I mean it's atrocious
I mean like
no one's enjoying that
it's awful
absolutely awful
but is the USP of it
that it's just really hot
yeah
when
when did you have it then
when the packet is
like black rather than red
to signify spicy like this is like, this is too hot.
Pot Noodle Bombay Bad Boy does that, doesn't it?
Pot Noodle Bombay Bad Boy.
That's black in there?
That is black.
Do they still do Bombay Bad Boys?
Is that the one that you decorated your foot with?
No, I think that was a commoner garden chow mein or something.
Ugh, horrible.
Anyway.
Anyway, let's get out of here.
Worse than doing cocaine on a table at 8 o'clock in the morning.
That's roughly equal, I would say.
Little packets.
Little packets of powder.
If I had seen someone else walking into that prayer,
I would have been a bad boy.
Call the police.
Going back to Glastonbury again,
talking about Glastonbury stories.
I can remember waking up in Glastonbury in a tent once
to a load of really fucking loud crunching.
And I was like, what the fuck is that?
You know, once you're awake in a tent, you're awake.
I got up out of the tent, looked around.
It was my mate's brother, older brother,
who, like, couldn't be arsed to walk down to the thing
and fill up the kettle and boil the kettle.
So he just, like, poured some water out of a water bottle
into a pot noodle, cold.
He was just crunching through a cold pot.
I was like, like mate what the fuck
are you doing
savages
we turn into savages
it's very difficult
to have any more
disdain for him
than I had at that point
and that was just
horrendous
so if I'd seen someone
doing that outside
the prep this morning
that would have been
as bad
I think
but crucially
it would have been legal
exactly
well
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