The Luke and Pete Show - Two Stings and a Flea

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

It's something of a music-themed show today as Pete reveals he once interviewed Flea from Red Hot Chili Peppers and he had something resembling a torture rack in his dressing room. Aside from that we pour doubt on the credibility of Bruce Dickinson's polymath credentials and then get stuck into a bit of Black Sabbath.Also, have we come full circle in the "what to feed ducks" debate that's been raging around the UK for the last decade or so? Tune in to find out!Email us at [e-mail] or you can get in touch on X, Threads or Instagram if character-restricted messaging takes your fancy.Fill out our survey here to have a chance at winning a PS5!***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Details at fizz.ca. Oh, you've got your window open, Lukey Mirror, on the Lukey Mirror show, the Luke and Pete show. How you doing? Pete Dawson with you. Lukey Mirror's got his window open and that could be risky because you know what people do? In the month of July, they do stuff like gardening, pressure washing, cleaning, loud stuff, grinding. You're not going to be grinding with me, young man.

Not today. I have got the window open. It is a risk. I've also got the door behind me open as well so the two cats can come and go as they please. Last time I tried to do this, yeah, last time I tried to do this there was a guy grinding but he seems to have disappeared now. So you might hear some birds chirping. You might hear the occasional meow of a cat.

I'll tell you what you won't hear. It's the bucolic sounds of a sheep barring or a cow mooing because I am in zone 2 South London. Is there not like a little sort of village farm that people like petting zoo that people get very excited about? Where would the nearest one be? Probably Vauxhall City Farm? That's not that near. Pet shop? Pet at home? That's not that near. Pet shop? Pets at home? That's a free zoo, innit, for the kids? Pets at home? Is pets at home just pet food and toys and stuff, or is it actual live animals? You can buy one of your favourite products, the Locust. You can buy fish and you can buy little rabbits and guinea pigs and rats.

Rats. Right. You frequent pets at home a lot do you? It's a free, when you pick up the dog food for the little ones it is a free zoo so they can pop around and have a look at some rabbits doing their rabbit-y thing to be honest. I just get the old pet food delivered on subscription. Yeah, I mean there's enough doorbell action in my life. There's a chair, for ages I've said, Sarah you simply must get a new office chair because

you spend a lot of time sitting at your desk and you've got what can only be described as a Victorian torture device at the moment. Which is normally in your bedroom, right? It's normally in my bedroom, a big stretching rack. It's a cup chair, isn't it? Cup chair. And one's just turned up. And my god, there is no lumbar support as well. It might look good, Sarah, but your back is going to be howling.

You're a tall lady, you can't get away with that sort of thing. Tricky one. Am I the only person that thinks on that medieval torture device stretch rack thing? That's quite nice. But for about 10 seconds it would be amazing. Yeah, well, when I interviewed... Stop now! Stop now, though! When I interviewed Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers

backstage at Wembley, he had what can only be described as like a big sort of rack, like a big sort of, like a lighting rig that he basically puts straps his feet into and hangs upside down for ages. It'd just be the same as that wouldn't it? All your blood's gonna rush to your head though. It is but the bass happens. When that happens that's how the bass happens. What was your kind of impression of the great Flea? Yeah he was alright, bit of a space man but I think you'd expect that, wouldn't you?

The good thing about Flea is he will pop up in films sometimes. I was about to say, the thing that's underrated about Flea, and I'm sure he's got some problems, but he is genuinely and quite consistently- Detail them. Detail the problems. I can't be bothered. What's the problem? I can't remember. He's genuinely and consistently in quite big films, isn't he? Yeah, he'll just pop in and sort of go.

But when you're, the titular kind of flea, there's nobody else called flea, is there really? Like there can't be anybody. It's like there's two stings, and one has to pay the other on a pound every year to use the name. So like- Is that really the side effect? Yeah. So the rest have to pay the other on a pound every year to use the name. So like- Is that really the sad fact? Yeah.

So the wrestler has to pay the musician? Nope. Different direction. The other weight, shut up! I promise you, he has to pay a quid every year. A quid every year to use his name. That's insane, I had no idea. He's a very kind religious man, is our sting.

But yeah, the Jordanian. What, so you reckon the American one, even though he came along after, got the rights? Trademarked. I mean, he's probably been wrestling for quite a long time, I guess. He probably wasn't wrestling in the 70s to be fair, but maybe he trademarked it in America and Sting was a UK concern. So maybe it's... That is an incredible part of the complicated nature of modern life, that, isn't it? Yeah. Hulk...

Why can't they just both be Sting? What's the problem? Hulk and WWE have to spend a lot of money with the Hulk, Hulk Hogan. They have to pay Marvel every time he's... and pretty much every time Hulk Hogan is detailed on like a poster or something there's usually a little kind of like copyright Marvel corporation which is... I mean, how can you have like the Hulk? I mean, I guess you can because it's like a big muscular man. But a Hulk is a Hulk. It's a big muscular thing.

Isn't it a Hulk? What about the footballer Hulk as well? Yeah, Ulke. Yeah. Didn't he marry his cousin? Did he marry his cousin? I don't know. But he, I mean, presumably, presumably that's just like a nickname and like people call him it,

but he's not really bothered about the other side of it. I mean, it's already such a busy, quite a busy space. Thirsty man. Yeah. it's busy chasing cousins around. But so you don't have any overriding memory of Flea then? No, only the Torture Act to be honest, I can't remember. Because there's bits of Revelations, isn't there, about other members of that band? Okay, right, no, I don't. Oh, I mean, Keedis is dating somebody very young, which is unnecessarily young. Not illegally young. Let's make that very clear. But what I took from the interview I did with

Auntie Keedis was that he, it was in his mustache era, about five years ago, and he had clearly died his mustache. So there was white, it was a white mustache. And then suddenly the hair goes pitch black yeah and I think you can get I was watching the old fellow cars Gary Newman he has obviously doesn't have that color hair it's pitch black he looks fucking brilliant for his age but he's just but he gets away with being cool being a bit gothy being part of the goth movement means that you could always have dyed black hair but if

you're not part of the Goth me if you're Robert Smith or Gary Newman you can dye your hair as black as the road if you fancy it and for the rest of your life and and though if you think about the way that people who aren't in the goth movement they look a bit sad in my opinion. As a man who's got grey hair himself. So, I think there's definitely a kind of line, because if you are somebody who's a normal person, and you start to go a bit grey as a man, particularly, I think to die on it looks a bit odd. Mmm, yeah.

And I think, I won't speak on behalf of the female experience of grey hair because I have no experience of it at all, but I actually know a couple of women around my age who have both got grey hair and they both look brilliant. They look really cool. But then on the Gary Newman thing, you also think that it's a's a very makeup heavy scene. You're always quite poorly lit. Any press shot you're gonna do is not gonna be, you know, summer's day in a park.

Is it? You've got a lot of stuff working in your favor. And I also read that a lot of people were particularly effusive about his set at Glastonbury this year. So it was brilliant and the rest of it. I actually found it a little bit dull, but he's obviously still performing at a very high level, given how long he's been around, right?

Yeah, I don't know his story at all, but he's always seemed quite intelligent talking about his music. His big songs are very good the one that Sugar Babes covered. You should have definitely if you ever interviewed him you should definitely open with that. Yeah definitely yeah yeah it's good stuff. Is the sentence the phrase the term black as the road exclusively used by racists because... Not when you just did it, so...

I know, I just used it, and I just used it, and I instantly thought, I feel like that's exclusively used by racists, but the only reason why I've used it is, well, is because it's in my vernacular. Um, but because my nan used to say it exclusively racistically. Do you know what I mean? So like, I'm thinking... I've never heard it before. Can Black as a Ro... Yeah, she used to use it exclusively racistically.

And not like, overtly, um, aggressively racist, it before. Yeah, she used to use it exclusively racially. And not like overtly, aggressively racist. It was just like, I had a doctor, et cetera, et cetera. So that's always been part of my comparing something to be black as black as the road. Now thinking about it, it probably is exclusively used by racists, isn't it? Well, I've never heard it, but you could use I mean, I'm sure you are black though Aren't they so I mean, I think you used it about Gary Newman's hair. I did use it as Gary He was hair. Yeah, and and that was

But saying black is the only time I've ever heard black is your order has been in comparing someone's skin color So I'm just worried that I thought you worried I thought I Just think you need to calm down. How many worried zombies do you see here? Yeah, you're allowed to describe someone's hair as being black. My nan has sent me down a... Don't blame your tilly departed nan, Peter. She's not here to defend herself.

I know. You are. You've basically become judge, jury and execution of your own crime. I know, I know. And I know that you can't stop smiling because you've got me on this. No, I'm not smiling. I think it's a very serious issue and I think you should be ashamed of yourself. I was going to make a point about Gary Newman but it feels a bit churlish now. Go on then, make a point about Gary. I'd like to apologise for using black as the road because I think it might exclusively be used by

racists. If it isn't, everything's fine. Everything is dandy. I'll try to moderate how I describe things in the future. I was just going to say that Gary Noonan is also in that list of rock stars who made money when you can make money in music and then got really into aviation. Right okay yeah that I mean there's very few um aviation level like airplane level um uh artists nowadays is there unless you're like uh unless you're in a k-pop band that that sort of money and if you're they're not going to be there I don't think the crossover's there what do you mean I just I just I to be there, I don't think the crossover's there. What do you mean?

I just don't see... They could all man the same... One could be the pilot and the other four could do... You'll need a core pilot and then some relief pilots, that's three of them gone. And then two of the rest of them can just run the rest of the plane, really. Yeah, run the cabin.

You know Gary Newman... This is the most 80s story you'll ever hear. the rest of the family yeah run the cabin you know Gary Newman in this is the most 80s story you'll ever hear Gary Newman founded and commercial airline called Newman air in the 80s yes I love it yeah new and they called the fan base called new animals I think I really yeah I think they might be called you know that's quite fun very enjoyable. Anyway, Newman has apparently piloted himself around the world. Right. I like it.

I like it. It's quite good. Yeah. I'm not that into it myself, but I think it's funny. It clearly comes from a place of, you know, I've got so much money that I really do need to find an efficient way of spending it. A lot of them will buy a boat. But Bruce Dickerson, Gary Newman, they get into aviation.

I think Bruce Dickerson at one point had his own 757 didn't he? Like a probably big boat. Yeah, he used to fly Iron Maiden around. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Ed Force One. Flight 666.

You'd need to draft someone in as a co-pilot though, wouldn't you? You'd have to draft someone in as a... I mean, the mad thing about that is a documentary about Dickinson doing that. And he's flying them around the world in a 747 on their tour. And it's like, presumably the majority of people who do world tours use the flights to sleep. Yes. What are you doing? I imagine they're not that long a hop.

Do you reckon he just does the take-offs and landings? Yeah, maybe he just gets indulgedoffs and landings? Do you reckon he just does a bit of that? Yeah, maybe he just gets indulged. Maybe he's not very good, but they can't say anything because it's like, it's his thing. Maybe the co-pilot is flying the whole time and he just thinks he's flying. Yeah, maybe like, he's like,

he's really into fencing as well. Whatever, he's just really bad at fencing, but no one knows anything about fences, so they can't question it. Yeah, exactly. Maybe they just give him, when he gets into the cabin of his Boeing, they give him one of those little kids' joysticks. Yeah, exactly. Maybe they've just given him, when he gets into the cabin of his Boeing, they give him up one of those little kids' joysticks.

Yeah, exactly. Like a steering wheel you stick onto the back of a seat in a car. It's basically a fake cabin behind the main cockpit. Well done, Bruce. That's got a flight simulator in there. You've flown us all the way to cuckoo land again. Brilliant. Eat this again. Brilliant. Eat this tablet.

Oh dear. And he wakes up after his sleep and says, You flew us all the way here again, well done. Well done. You want to go and do your little sing song now? You've got to do your little sing song. Do you want to do your fencing? I'll have to blow up your sword. You now want to go and sing your rock music music now you dress up as Jet the Ripper

Bless him Bruce. I've got no reason to believe that would be the case. No we don't know that. I think he got married a couple weeks ago as well. Did he? How old was that? I think she's in her 40s to be fair. Okay. She might be a fitness instructor. Okay, right. It's a standard. He's what? Standard. He's 66 I think. Yeah. The most metal of ages. That's standard rock star, isn't it? It's not Seinfeld hanging around a university campus, but it's... You're on rare form today, you. Why am I on rare form? All of these things are part of the public record. Record? Yeah. But is it appropriate if you're 66 is someone in their 40s okay? Everyone knows where they are with it don't they? Everyone's a grown-up I suppose aren't they? One of them's a fitness instructor. When my wife finally leaves me right? Right.

After her patience finally snaps and I get to the age of 66 and need to find a new partner I think it though I think 40 mid 40s is alright I think with it's half years plus seven as we all know the way that 33 that's for 40 it's about 40 yeah yeah well done and I would say that with that it must be ideal if you are in your 40s to be going out with someone who is... because you've got your own interests and when you're in your 60s you're watching just history documentaries. I'm doing that now. I'm literally doing that now. You just sat around watching history documentaries. I have seen every single interview with a World War One veteran on YouTube that exists already. what I'm doing on a 16 very it's very important these days trench warfare in the Ukraine conflict slash invasion is

It's very The yeah, it's a weird one, but I think the So I mean you've got your interest you're to car shows, you are going to plane shows, you are, if you're Bruce Dickinson, you're watching history documentaries, you're listening to history podcasts, you are... You are staying away from the person that you're with as much as you can. And you're probably doing what my dad does, gets up at one o'clock in the morning and enjoys the house for himself. No, but that's different because your dad's been married to the same person for such a long time. I think if you really... I think you go full circle on that.

Yeah. I don't think my dad's got much to offer a 40 year old lady. Yeah, well, I'm not gonna speak to that. Right. But I think that you probably get into a situation where you just get completely aligned of someone who's got the same interests as you. Right, okay, yeah.

But Bruce Dickerson, don't forget, has also done, he's also behind the Iron Maiden ale. Okay, yes, but the scene is so typically 66 year old man though, isn't it? It's very familiar to people who are about that age. Allow me to give you a bit more, because that could get right in that sweet spot for you. Bruce Dickinson apparently, according to what I'm reading here,

enthusiastically supported Brexit. He did, yes. Then I think... Didn't they fall foul of the Brexit thing? Can I make your point though, because I think this is a really important part of it. Enthusiastically supported Brexit and voted for the UK to leave the EU during the 2016 referendum. In 2021, Dickinson said he was angry that British museums and performers were being restricted from free travel through Europe

Yeah, that's good stuff in it. Well done solid Some reason I can't get mad at him because I just love Iron Maiden too much, but it is ridiculous they we were doing I can't forget why we're doing it but on text we were doing Iron Maiden puns and Oh, yeah, got some fucking songs, aren't they? Just if you go Iron Maiden songss and they've got some fucking songs haven't they? If you go Iron Maiden songs, like there's like 30 songs you know and they're all brilliant. Yeah I completely agree. Why were we doing it? I can't remember. I'll tell you why, I'll tell you what the great insult to what my life is because I can't even remember which Iron Maiden puns I was doing with which person because at one point the people I

went to go and see Iron Maiden with was talking about going to get food right before the gig and we're doing a lot of Iron Maiden food puns as well like burgers in the Rue Morgue everybody's chomping you know that kind of stuff. But I think I've got a feeling our one might be to do with cats maybe. Maybe something like that I can't remember to be honest but I'm sure've got a feeling now it might be to do with cats, maybe. Maybe, something like that. I can't remember to be honest, but I'm sure we had a very, very good reason and a great time doing it. See, we do talk outside of the shop. You also messaged me talking about you've been hugely disrespectful to a 106 year old man who was interviewed on the BBC website.

What was he doing? Don't go through all the texts. This is a nightmare. No, he was doing what they're always doing. This is what I don't like about it, right? Is that the problem with whenever the BBC interviews someone who's 106 years old, they only ever ask you one question and you know what it is. Oh, what do you eat? What do you drink? What's the secret to a long life?

What's the secret to a long life? Oh yes, he's the custard man, isn't he? Leslie Lemon, great name. Leslie Lemon. 106 years old this month, he said the secret to my long, my secret to long life is custard, custard, custard. You can't beat it, I have it every day and I want it every day. He drinks custard every day doesn't he? I forgot about him yeah. Imagine if that was real though, imagine if because of that interview the most like that crazy guy's trying to live for as long as he can.

He looks like a pro-boy. Yes, he's eating his son's custard every hour of the day. Imagine if it just turned out, it was just custard. Yeah, all the way. Just custard. Turns out it's just custard. Endless custard. Yeah.

I'll tell you what it was, Pete. We were doing Iron Maiden puns. I found it because you found the guy on the tube who had an Iron Maiden t-shirt on but also had his kid's Gruffalo Trunkey back on. It wasn't his kid, it wasn't his kid. Oh, he just had it. So like, you know what rockers are like, I was one and you know any any excuse for a bit of affected kind of clothing or garb you can get away with, you know, something a bit stupid. You know, I used to wear Pokemon shirts and stupid stuff like that when I was 18 19 and this lad I saw was in full like Iron Maiden sort of Rockaway but he

was carrying like a trunkey you know it was hard plastic really for a grown up hard to carry too angular, too hard, waste of time yeah he's got like he's got like a gruff little trunkie. Oh I assumed there was a kid cropped out of the shot. No, no kid cropped out of the shot. He was just loving life. So your best pun on that was run to the Grange Hills. I enjoyed that. Oh right yeah because we were doing kids TV shows weren't we. There was one about Pepper Pig's baby. I don't think it's actually Pepper Pig. Didpig have a baby? I think I read that somewhere didn't I? No, the mum the mums are pregnant again. The mums pregnant again. Will daddy pig not just leave her alone for crying out loud They've still have sex for ages pigs as well

They sort of don't they don't they have like grabby penises or so they're bifurcated fucking penises or something. Yeah, that rings a bell I'm not sure I know how long they take to have sex though it seems to me that I mean in my in my role as a dilettante and know a little bit about lots of things and not a lot about a lot and it feels to me like whenever you see some kind of animal copulating it seems to be over very quickly yeah so it shouldn't be a problem I think. I think. I was listening. I've seen pigeons do it and it's literally under a second. Yeah, it's efficient though because you don't have time.

And also your lives are so much shorter than humans so you can't sort of slow it down really. And it's the mallard duck isn't it? The mallard that is notorious as a species for rape, right? Yes, yeah, yeah, that was on the Stuart Lee, that was the Stuart Lee stand-up set once, but yes. There's a lot of it. If you just type in, do this under caution, and you'll be very careful,

but if you type in Mallard rape into Google, it's a lot of academic studies. Don't use a public computer for that. Listen, a lot of academic studies, is all I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, too much if you ask me. I mean, like the... It's mad, isn't it?

What I find odd about that is that if you're somebody who lives your life according to what the people what the scientists tell us, and they evidence their discoveries and all this kind of stuff, and they don't have to make an excuse for something being weird, they can just say, well, you know, this is what's happening, and this is why the universe is weird, so just get on with it. But if you're somebody who believes in divine creation,

he must be off his head. Yeah. What do you mean? As in like the mallards, yeah. I'm just gonna go, I'm just gonna go, I'm sitting there up in my lab, my heavenly lab, and I'm gonna go, that duck species there. First of all, I've got probably about 3,000 duck species to deal with.

That's probably gonna take up most of the day, one day. I'm gonna go, that duck does normal sex, that duck does normal sex, that one, rape only. Yeah, rape exclusive. And then why would you name, wasn't there one of the most famous early steam trends called the mullard? Yeah, it rings a bell. Why would you, if you knew that about the mullard? Well I don't think the common or garden duck enjoyer would know that that's that. Right, okay. That fact.

You've got a common or garden duck enjoyer, you go down there with your bit of bread, you're not supposed to do that these days, but back in the day it would have been bread. I think, hasn't there been a counter-revolution that's sort of basically saying look if you aren't going to turn up with fucking seeds or whatever the hell we eat. Frozen peas apparently is the best. Frozen peas, yeah, right. People have stopped basically turning up with anything, so they're starving. That's right, it's gone the wrong way. Oh God, like can we just stop, everyone stop being a big knobby knoll and we'll be fine, yeah? Let them have the bread.

It's fine, it's fine. It's cool, it's good for me. The point is that the bread expands in their stomachs, doesn't it? But that's probably what makes you feel full. True. How many overweight ducks have you seen? Could be one. Good point. Let's have a break.

Yes, let's do that. We'll be back17 a month. Certain conditions apply. Details at fizz.ca. We're back with the Luke and Pete Show. I'm Pete Donaldson and I'm joined by Mr. Lukey Moore. I was just thinking in that break, I can't remember the last time I fed the ducks.

I mean, my sons getting to the age where he might be interested in it so maybe I'll start I'll try. Do you feed the sparrows too? Do you feel an enormous something of well well-being? I can't get past them I can't get past the idea of Dame and Auburn really. I don't, I don't. I just enjoy that little yawn there. You tried to stifle but you couldn't. The UASIS gigs obviously, a few weeks ago, the UASIS gigs. Why did they start in Cardiff? Could they not say no to a juicy Millennium Stadium?

Not on the Millennium Stadium anymore? I reckon standards are lower. Get them, shake the cobwebs out in Wales. Everyone's going to be too excited. That was unkind of me to Welsh people. I don't mean to be unkind. I've got no beef with Welsh people. I have beef with Cardiff's hotel provisions and when there's a big gig happening, and I imagine Oasis is as big as it fucking gets,

the people put up their prices by about four times. Pete, how good do they sound by the way? They sounded alright to be honest. I can't complain to be honest. Liam Gallagher looked like three times the size of his brother because he was just insisting on wearing a parka and every time he put his arm up he looked like the Michelin man. Commit to the bit, you've got to commit to the bit, you can't criticise him for that. Oh my name is David Albarn, this year I'm into world music so I'm'm gonna dress differently. And last year I had an estuary accent, but the year before that I was quite into radio head,

so I'm gonna be a bit posher and speak like I'm from Oxford. Look, Liam Gallagher's always been the same. I saw a headline from him this morning. Said, I'm never doing carpool karaoke because I think James Corden's a knobhead. It's fine, it's what you expect. But I think, I listen to I listen to someone shared the so I presume they're probably gonna release some kind

of live record right yes and I I someone I know you've seen it but someone or heard it but someone released the professional through the desk audio of a couple of their songs cutting cut one of the shows in Cardiff it fucking sounded amazing well no Galya's always as he sort of drifted away, is like Gwigsley and Bonehead and people like that still in the band or is it just... Yeah, Bonehead is I think, but I think you've probably got... The latter stage. I mean, I don't know if I'm not being... But I imagine you've got...

Craddock. Liam, Noel, Bonehead, and then they're supported by probably two or three really good musicians as well. Yeah, well, Noel kind of like, as the Oasis journey continued, it was very much kind of, it did sort of, he did end up sort of bringing in quite talented guitarists who are really good at their job. So, yeah. Yeah. But I just thought to myself, I think what's happened there is from the moment that those shows were signed, Liam Gallagher has been

doing the right things with his voice. And I think even- Cause he was quite poor this time last year, wasn't he? Everyone was saying- I think he's been poor for a while. And I think, and also without getting too nerdy about it, I do have a little tiny bit of noise in this area. Like the way he sings is a very, very strangest way of singing.

If you ever try, if you ever feel like you want to, you probably don't know why you would, but if you're in your little cabin and no one can hear you, try and sing as he sings. It doesn't matter if you get it in tune or not, but just try. Nasty daddy afternoon! Exactly, try doing that for even 20 minutes,

let alone a whole tour. I've lost several notes as I get older. It's quite worrying because my job is... No, but I've not just lost the higher registers, I've just... Ahhhhh! Ahhhhh! See? Can you stop that now please?

Ahhhhh! That's my voice. Imagine if people went to go to the Oasis, they sounded like that. Because that's kind of a bit of how Axl Rose sounds now. Yeah he sounds like this. So Axl Rose now sounds like he's doing his normal voice through a kazoo in a wind tunnel. Yeah, yeah he doesn't sound great but that I tell you what that fucking Black Sabbath gig looked fucking brilliant. I watched that. Who was broadcasting it? Just YouTube. I streamed it, do you know what I would say, right, as well?

I totally agree with you, but on top of that, the streaming solution, to be a bit tech nerdy about it for a while, was fucking brilliant. I had no idea, I had no expectation at all. It was just on backtothebeginning.com. It was 30 quid, and it started streaming from two hours after the show started. So basically I think the whole thing started at three. So from five it started on the stream. I watched it all the way through.

I didn't think some of the bands were that good. I don't think we needed those super group type bands. It was all a bit fucking muddy and shit, but the ones that actually, you know, Guns N' Roses, Metallica, you know, Pantera, Slayer and for, I mean, Metallica, Pantera, Slayer, and I mean, Pantera definitely problematic, Slayer probably problematic, that stuff aside. The Metallica sounded fucking amazing, and the quality of the stream,

I know it's still available, but if you're interested Pete, go and get it, and watch it, because it was like a top-level Glastonbury headliner type broadcast solution it's brilliant the camera work the quality of it never fell over it was amazing. Well they do a live mix for everything nowadays anyway don't they so it'll be probably be being streamed and we've nailed streaming now haven't we I mean we shouldn't I mean I guess compared to like a Premier League football match that's... like Premier League football matches don't really fall over

anymore do they? I mean imagine how many people are off now. Yeah but I think there's a difference between... I mean I guess they probably just paid a big tech company who do this kind of stuff a lot of money to do it. Probably the same people who did glassomery probably you know that kind of... you know I can't remember what company... Well do you reckon it's the same as just these days just the same as broadcasts and a top football game or something? Yeah, I mean, you've got, I mean, they're mixing the music anywhere. There'll be two different kinds of mixes, I suppose.

There'll be a, there'll be a... What about the syncing between the visuals though? That's really clever the way I do that. What do you mean, as in like... Well, because like, there's no delay on the visuals compared to the audio. Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, you can delay the... Yeah, because it's coming out of the... Yeah, how would you record anything? Because it's coming straight out of the yeah How would you record anything because it's coming coming straight out the desk isn't it's not instant pretty right?

It's very different. There's very little latency and you know slow down the I thought it's really good actually thought that despite the fact that he couldn't like him He couldn't even stand up bless him Aussie. He sounded okay. Yeah, and I thought I just thought it was a really nice thing Like it was an amazing you could what I just thought it was a really nice thing. It was an amazing, what I loved about it was that metal crowds are famously very friendly and very welcoming and inclusive anyway. And I found the same when I went to go see Iron Maiden as I think I said a week or two ago.

But what was amazing actually, and you could probably apply this to the, to what I've seen of the Oasis shows as well, although perhaps not quite on the same scale, is that it's all ages, right? People were there because they loved Black Sabbath and what they were doing on this stream in between, say, like changeovers of artists, they were running, I think they were running the feed from the big screens at the venue, so they were running like bits to camera from people all around the world doing how much Black Sabbath mean

to them and it was a mixture of like them. Yes, like Jeff Black and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also just everyday fans as well. And the whole thing just became a very touching event I thought. I thought it was really well done. Really nice and just the fucking light was incredible. I mean, I, you know what, I hate everything he stands for. Not the mental health stuff, but I adore everything he stands for not not the mental health stuff but I bought everything he stands for but even Youngblood's voice was quite good quite terrible. Was Youngblood involved? Yeah he sang Changes is it Changes? The one he did with Kelly Osborne? Yeah it was that yeah.

Going through Changes! I'm quite pleased I missed that. Yeah well a good voice can't stand him but good voice well done. He's got his own little festival as well, Youngblood now. He has, yeah, I don't think it was particularly well attended or something. It's one of those things that I think, there's a guy on the, when people want to run their own festivals, it reminds me of the man who everyone loves, who lives in America, handsome, unbelievably handsome for a retro tech enthusiast, this kind of guy with this rich, beautiful British accent, and his beautiful wife and

his lovely dog, and he's obsessed with the Commodore 64 and Spectrums and Amstrads. And more importantly, he's just bought the license to Commodore to release tech for... Oh, that's exciting for him, I bet he was world chuffed with that. Absolutely huge, and he's this lovely bloke and he seems to be doing it for the right reasons, but... He will, just by virtue of the fact that there's a reason why nobody makes common-house stuff anymore He's gonna have a difficult time and the fan base his fan base will turn And just it doesn't matter if you stick around long enough you become the you become the enemy Pirate software on YouTube he's getting kicking at the moment like everyone is

Getting a kicking and everyone gets a kicking eventually at the moment like everyone is getting a kicking and everyone gets a kicking eventually have you had one well we've we've hit it well that assassin's creed snafu on oh yeah on youtube is that your fault or not um no i stand by everything i said um people are racist i'm racist black as road as i discussed yeah exactly exactly right um but uh yeah it's uh i just i just think that young blood doing his own festival, sort of guy, just the people are gonna complain on the tireless and you are gonna be right in the crosshairs. Yeah, it's your name above the door, boy. Yeah, true.

So you can't hide behind it, you can't just go, oh, you know, sorry about that stuff, I did it at Glastonbury, but it was Glastonbury's fault. Yeah, exactly. So... It's Bloodfest. Guys, it's just Bloodfest. I hope that comes back for 2026. We'll be back on Thursday for batteries and stuff like that.

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