The Luke and Pete Show - Wait, when is the Witching Hour?

Episode Date: June 2, 2025

Pete and a laryngitis-ridden Luke settle in for a thoroughly analytical breakdown of the current state of the UK box office. Plus, we have to ask the difficult question: is Keanu Reaves actually terrible at acting?Elsewhere we get an update from the Bad Boy of Pétanque, hear of badgers terrorising Pete’s local area and a listener’s going to Glastonbury and hasn’t heard of Neil Young - Luke ain’t happy…Email us at [e-mail] or you can get in touch on X, Threads or Instagram if character-restricted messaging takes your fancy.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Your door to big deals is on DoorDash right now. Sign up for DoorDash and enjoy a free Big Mac on your first McDonald's order of $20 or more. Only on DoorDash now until June 15th. Terms apply. Alright, Patonkers, it's the Luke and Pete Show. I'm Pete Donaldson and I'm joined by Mr. Lukey Moore on Monday the 2nd of June. The witchening. Why is it the witchening? I don't know, witches, 2nd of June.

I think witches should spend a little bit more time working a little bit harder in the Claw season for witchenings. Because I imagine witchenings, they all sort of kicks it together about October don't it I think the witchiners should get out of their covens What's a witchiner? I don't know just the witches, a witch, a Balrog How much better would the show be? A Balrog? A warlock?

A warlock What's a Balrog? Balrog is that thing It's a mythical character isn't it? Yeah Lord of the Rings isn't it? Right okay That Gandalf fights in the mines of, is it the mines of Moria? The mines of Moria.

Does it say go back to the shadows or something? You shall not pass, that's that bit. It's that bit, right, okay. How much better would this show be if we recorded it exclusively in the witching hour? The witching hour, what is the witching hour? 12? 11? PM? I'm just Googling it. When is the witching hour?

Period of time, typically in the early evening. Oh, in the early evening? When a baby or young child is prone to irritate... No, that can't be it. They're evil, aren't they, witches? Oh, midnight, apparently. Waiting for babies to cry. With reference to the belief that witches are active and magic takes place at that time. It's surprising enough, Pete, it comes from Shakespeare, it

comes from Hamlet. Okie dokie. Do you think that, oh the old Witches Three, their cauldron? No, that's Macbeth isn't it? Oh yeah. It's Hamlet. Talking like Dunsinay and walking towards them in all the bushes. Until the forest marches on Dunsinay. Which does happen in the end.

I just said it. Spoiler. It does happen in the end. I just said it. Spoiler. And don't they also say that Macbeth can't be killed by any child born of woman or something or whatever and it turns out that Macduff is born by Caesarean. Of course. Big vibes. They were very anti-Caesarean back then weren't they? I was surprised that Caesarean sexes went back that far. Yeah, good point actually. But I guess a lot of women would die in childbirth and the focus seemed to be on the child

and sort of like, ah, we've lost a woman, but we've got the baby out, we've got the baby out. That's what happens to the particularly- Baby is strong. That's what happens to the particularly brutal scene in the start of House of the Dragon. Right, okay. I think he's got to decide

whether he loses his baby or his wife. Or his wife. That's a big ask, isn't it? Don't they say that I- Not met the baby yet. No, it's true. I'll go with the wife. Yeah's a big ask isn't it? Don't they say that Ivan... Not met the baby yet. No, it's true. I'll go with the wife. Yeah, I've known the wife for ages.

Ivan the Terrible is it? He was said to have been born on the battlefield. Right, okay. I think it was Ivan the Terrible, maybe to someone else, but I think it was Ivan the Terrible who said that his mother was a warrior and she gave birth to him during a battle. Right. And it's such a strong omen that he went on to become Ivan the Terrible. Ah, you'd think you'd be Ivan the Gifted Battleman, you know, the gifted man.

And I was born in St Mary's Hospital opposite Fratton Park. Should have become a doctor. On a Saturday afternoon, which shows you why I've had such an illustrious career in football. Do you know what matches were taking place at that time? I looked it up. Why don't you fill in and I'll find out. I was born at Brierton, maybe Greetham Hospital, I forget, a hospital in Hartlepool. I recently found my own, or rather my mum sent it to me because easily 20 years before she's going to pop a clog,

she's decided to get her affairs in order. Knowing how old my nan got to, she sent me all my birth certificates and pictures and my birth certificate looks, it looks very forgerable. The birth certificates back then were so easy. You could get away with not really working that hard on your forgeries, could you? Mason Higgins Wasn't there also, oh by the way, Portsmouth were away that day. I lost 2-1 at Hull. That's a shame.

In the English third division. Anyone score, anyone interesting scoring? I'm against third division back in the day. No, no, no, no. No notable detail. Alumni. But isn't there, wasn't there a scandal involving a load of kind of assumed identities by like spies and stuff.

You're in the Cold War who basically used the identities of babies and children that had died. Yes. They had all the paperwork still. That makes sense. That's a good scam that. Adding a very, very immoral aspect to what is already quite an immoral job. They're not using it.

Yeah, true. They're not using it. Didn't want it to go to waste. Look, if I pop my clogs, anyone can assume my identity. I don't think it works. You're 43 already it? Didn't want it to go to waste. Look, if I pop my clogs, anyone can assume my identity. I think it works. You're 43 already. I think it works. Yeah, but just like no one to say that I've died and I can probably sell on my driving

license six points on it. Like the film Bubba Hotepp. Have you seen that? I haven't, no. It's one of those kind of, Bubba Hotepp is one of those phrases like, trying to think now, one of those kind of things that is in the common consciousness, but I've never, I don't really know what it refers to. Bruce Campbell movie, legend of, of Evil Dead. Brilliant films. He's obviously a B movie

legend. His memoir, Bruce Campbell's is called, If Chins Could Kill. Right. Yeah. He's got a very good jawline. He plays a guy, let me get this right. He plays a guy in an old people's home who insists he's the real Elvis because the height of Elvis's fame, he swapped identities with the best Elvis impersonator he could find. So he could go and live a peaceful life somewhere else. And so therefore he's the real Elvis in this retirement home with an African American guy who swears he's the reincarnation of JFK. Yes. And they have to hatch a scheme together because every night in the old people's home, an old haunted dead Pharaoh from ancient Egypt stalks the corridor and tries to kill people. Oh, cracking. Yeah. So it's a real triumph of imagination. I actually remember quite enjoying it in like a B movie kind of way. You know

that B movies, they don't take themselves seriously, so it's much easier to enjoy them. No, my dad was a big fan of that kind of caper and also the, what was that guy, he used to use busty ladies and everything, Ross Meyer. Yeah fan of... Yeah, Ross Meyer. That was like a 70s thing. Yeah, like Amazon woman and the moon. That was a sketch show. But yeah, that sort of thing. It made faster pussycat and that kind of stuff. That's the stuff. Busty girls. And yeah, he used to love a bit of Ross Meyer.

Love a bit of Planite from Outer Space. All that good stuff. That's Ed Wood, isn't it? Ed Wood, yeah. It's absolutely solid work. But that was what I grew up on. In many ways, it influenced my decisions and interests. The Room is like that, isn't it? Yeah, a little bit, yeah. A shit film, so shit people like it. But it wasn't designed like that, it was just some rich bloke who... But the guy who made The Room wasn't trying to make a shit film, was he? No, he was trying to make a good film, yeah. But I think Edward was trying to make a shit film. Oh, I don't know, actually I don't know. I think he was trying to make a proper film, wasn't he?

Because it was around about that time that you could make like pretty good sci-fi films that were popular if you were any good, I would suggest. Because there's like all-time classics around that period, like A Day of the Earths, The Steal and that kind of thing, isn't it? Which is remade with... I mean, I've got no particular beef with Keanu Reeves, but I think the day the Earth said still, I think it was remade with Keanu Reeves. It's like, why are you doing that? I think we've forgotten how bad Keanu Reeves is at acting. That was always his shtick, wasn't it? He had a band, Dogstar, and he was a crap actor, but now he's obviously thought of way more fondly than, but still cannot act. I might have said this to you before, but there's a bit in, in the Matrix,

the first one, which is actually brilliant. Whoa. Yeah. It really takes you out of it. It's not even the world, but it's the bit where he is in his open plan office. When he first discovers or starting to find out that Morpheus is trying to recruit him. first discovers or starting to find out that Morpheus is trying to recruit him. And he gets a package delivered to his desk and he opens it and it's one of those wonderful Nokia flick phones. It's an Ericsson. It might be Sony Ericsson. Is it? No, I think it's a Nokia. And it starts ringing and he answers it and the guy tells him,

oh, Morpheus tells them these agents are coming to kill him and he's got to get out of the office. And he can't go out the main entrance because they're there. So he tries to climb out the window. Yeah. He looks down and he goes, I can't do this. And it's the worst delivered line in film history. It's honestly so, so poor. And you know, when, when you think about how movies

are made, they block out the scenes, they rehearse them, they do loads of different takes. I would be fascinated to see the other takes they couldn't use because the one they've chosen is astonishingly poor. But you're right, Keanu Reeves is more of a kind of film star than an actor, isn't he? Yeah, that's fair. Have you ever seen the clip from the video game, I think, Matrix Reloaded, or one of the Matrix games? That is apparently the, is it Wachowski Sisters? They say that the video games are canon. Where Morpheus, Lawrence Fishburne, is killed, It is the shittest death in video games or anywhere really.

Depressingly, I didn't even know there was a video game. Yeah, obviously there was lots of video games of the Morpheus. Makes sense. But yeah. Are they any of them any good? No, I don't think so. I think they're all pretty terrible. But it's just funny that the way that Morpheus the character gets killed, much to Lawrence Fishburne's chagrin.

He... it's a really... a man just sort of crawls over pipe man sort of goes ah crawls over pipe and kills morphius wow i think that's the case because because if you think about if you think about other people in movies that you would say are film stars rather than actors right a will smith or a tom cruise two off the top of my head okay they have done like serious roles like like Will Smith has nominated for an Oscar for Ali, might have even won it. Yeah. Tom Cruise has done like all sorts of stuff, like you know, Born the Fourth of July, very serious, Ernest Rolroy plays Ron Kovic, the Vietnam veteran. I can't think of a single movie that Keanu Reeves has done which isn't, which is like serious and

isn't, which is like serious and as respected as a kind of acting role, right? Yeah. I mean, no, I don't think there are any, I would say. Maybe my own private Idaho, but I've not seen that. No. And he's in Bram Stoker's Dracula, isn't he? Uh, days of thunder. Days of, no, I'm talking about fucking Keanu Reeves. Oh, sorry.

Fucking Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise was in a vampire film as well. He was in an interview with a vampire. Yeah. But what I'm saying is that Tom Cruise has done serious acting roles. Right. It's Keanu Reeves done any serious acting roles.

I don't think Tom Cruise is respected in the same way either. I think he is. I think he was. He's done Born on the 4th of July. Right, okay. Very very strong. Okay fine. And isn't he in Vanilla Sky as well? I'll tell you what,

he's also in that movie where he plays the hitman. Is it called Collateral? That's also really good. So I think Tom can be ranked. Tom Cruise before he started being a stuntman. Now just do stunts. Yeah, well someone was telling me while we were on Rumble too that they just basically planned films around the stunts. They're a stunt first company. They're a stunt first film. It's been beaten at the box office isn't it at the moment by something else. What is it? He's been beaten... I can't remember what it is.

I'm finding it very difficult to get hold of a... I really want to watch that Friendship film with Tim Robinson. Oh me too! Oh yeah, it's A24 films or whatever. A24 yeah. It's funny you say that. They've just got North sort of UK licensing deal for the film, which is just pathetic in this day and age. I was, do you know what?

Lilo and Stitch has beaten it in the Oscars. That looks quite good to be fair. Yeah, but the friendship movie with Paul Rudd as well, right? I was literally on my phone yesterday trying to find a London cinema that was showing it. There's none. They don't have a UK deal. Which is pathetic. Same with The Ballad of Wallace Island.

Right. Which one's that one? It's the one with Tim Key and... Oh, that's surely got to have a UK deal. I think that's now been announced. It's coming out pretty soon. That feels like art cinema. That feels like the Phoenix.

It feels like... But it's weird because it's basically been totally steered by a load of British people, but it's an American release for ages. Yeah, it's truly bad, but if it's had an American release for ages, get yourself on the internet. The trailer of that Tim Robinson movie makes it look like a far more impactful, longer version of a sketch from, I think, you should leave. Yeah, massively.

It's got Conor O'Malley in it, and he can do no wrong in my eyes. I'm pleased that Paul Rudd's in it, because he's a safe pair of hands as well in a comedy set up, isn't he? I think you can, I think when you've got Rudd, Rudd basically opens a lot of doors, but not to cinemas in the UK, clearly, annoyingly.

Maybe, though, I'm sure it'll come out at some point, right? I just get the sense that, like, like, they are their own worst enemies cinema, aren't they? They just sort of, they don't open stuff in the right places and then they go, oh dude, this didn't make any money, so Tim Robinson's not a Hollywood, you know, bankable star. Well, you've made it unable to be watched. They have found it hard with all the streaming stuff going on. Right. Cause I love going to the cinema, particularly on my own and going, making a bit of an event and going and watch a movie like, and I understand

that, you know, sometimes they release movies for streaming at the same time. But to me, it's not really the same. No, it's not. I just didn't get distractions from me at home. Yeah. But politically, how is it handled if you ask for what is the best part of four hours these days for a cinema trip? Are you talking about my wife?

Well, no, I just don't think at this moment in time, either of us have the time to go, I'm going to go down to the cinema for a bit. Well, if I'm saying I'm doing a REACs in the evening, I'm working the night, and I take a few hours off in the afternoon that week, my son will invariably be at nursery. I see. It doesn't matter. You need to sort out your childcare arrangements.

I did it at the childcare arrangements. You can't be spending all your time taking... It's delicious though. I want to have a hot dog in the back of a cinema. Yeah. Pond or otherwise. So when you took your daughter... Don't talk about porn.

Talk about our kids. When you took your kid to don't talk about Paul, talk about our kids. When you took your daughter to go and see in the night garden live, how long was it? It was only like 50 minutes. Were you able to sustain her interest for that long? Yeah, with snacks. Snacks are always a big vibe. No way my son's sitting through that. Big snacks are a big vibe. I think boys are harder because they just want to break things all the time. Yeah we visited a mates kids and I was mainly concentrating on a beautiful fat Labrador that they had. Fat Labrador. What are you throwing shade at it? What do you mean? It was a fat Labrador. There's no world that they wouldn't regard their own dog as being a fatty moon batty. Just say Labrador. But it was cuter because it was a large Labrador.

Larger than life Labrador. More to life Labrador. Bubbly Labrador. Bubbly Labrador. And yeah, the boys have different needs, different energies. Really just like, screaming and running over the other side of a building. My son, yeah, my son threw a train down the stairs, one of his favourite trains I might add, exploded on impact and he looked at me and went, that's ridiculous.

Your boy! Your boy! You can't stop talking. My boy is very, very advanced. He's good at talking. My boy is, your boy is very, very advanced. He's good in this talking. All I get out of my daughter is shush. Sit down and shush. Tells its own story. Tells its own story really. She's got me pegged to be honest. Absolutely. She's got me pegged as being someone who needs to shut up. Yeah. I can definitely empathise with that. Shush!

I don't get a word in edgeways with my boy. Peter, let's have a quick break. All right then. When we come back the other side, I've got some really serious patonk updates. Your door to big deals is on DoorDash right now. Sign up for DoorDash and enjoy a free Big Mac on your first McDonald's order of $20 or more. Only on DoorDash now until June 15th. Terms apply. We're back with the Luke and Pete shot and as promised Luke Moore, the Patonk update please. Before we do the Patonk update, let's read this email from Josh who says, Hi guys, I thought I'd share with you a picture, a photo from the town I call my home. The Paton Cup date before we did a Paton Cup date. Let's read this email from Josh. He says hi guys

I thought I'd share with you a picture of a photo from the town. I call my home and The Facebook comments are also the break in the glory days of fights with rival football firms I can't confirm whether any of these are scaffolders or truckers though. I dare say it might be in the skill set And what he shared is? It's which town football club. We will remember them fallen unknown soldier and poppy flag. Yeah. Where it's got, you know, serious connotations obviously. And then for some reason it appears there's a guy in the middle doing a Nazi salute. Whoa. Whoa. There you go. Oh yeah. Odd that, isn't it? Confusing. Confusing confusing, confusing messaging. So what do you think?

So we started off talking about this when it came to scaffolders, truckers, basically laborers really having a real affinity with the poppy and the unknown soldier all year round. Yeah. What is the connection between being a football fan and doing that? Uh, um, well, I mean, I guess guess it's just just lads getting together remembering why they're there you know. Who's allowed me to drink this Monster Energy drink on a on a Sunday morning? I don't think if you're throwing

up a Nazi salute you are remembering it properly. I don't think that. We will remember them it says. Yeah. They always say we won't forget. Well no it's remembering the fall and not remember what the Nazis did. He's forgotten completely, if indeed he ever knew. Now he's throwing up Roman salutes. I think you're showing a memory that's below par. Compared with the average population then. There are no more elephants in there brood, hanging around. Anyway.

Before you move on Luke, you know there's a Glaswegian noise pop duo called LAPS. Oh right. LAPS. Oh right, that sounds great. It's Alicia Matthews and Kassi Ezeji, one is called Suzuki and the other one is called Golden Teacher. Sounds right on my street. They were neighboured sweethearts who submitted their love of the Tascam analog tape recorder in Glasgow's Green Door studio back in 2011. There's no reason to have an analog tape recorder in Glasgow's Green Dove studio back in 2011.

There's no reason to have an analog tape recorder in a professional environment these days in 2012, 2011. Just for the vibes though. Yeah, just the vibes, but I mean where are you getting the tapes from? Like you just think about your overheads in Glasgow's Green Dove studio. They're frequently compared to the likes of ESG and Lizzie Mercier, De Clue, yet the pair cite RuPaul as their main influence. So there you go. Yeah, Glasgow noise rock duo sounds good to me. I'm a fan of the noise rock duo. I like Japan Droids. I like the other one, his name I can't bloody remember now. I'm a fan of

it generally. I'm not sure how RuPaul plays into that. It makes it very camp, which could make it even better. Who knows? But watch that with interest. There's also another Luke and Pete podcast isn't there? Oh there is yeah, Luke and Pete talk sheet or something isn't it? Is it big? Is it good? It seems to be. They seem like some good lads. Good luck to them. Good luck to them, that's what we say.

Get us on. The reason I've not mentioned it in the past is because I wonder if it's part of that right wing EKTV. Don't be smirking their good name. I'm asking, I'm not saying. I know yeah. If you type Luke and Pete, I don't know whether I've already typed in so that's why it's coming up, but Luke and Pete talking sheet comes up as you know pretty prominent on the old... right, hmm, yeah. What? Yeah, just looking at the...

that's their last podcast name, podcast title. Yeah. No, not good is it? No, it's not good. I'd like to retract what I'm... What I was going to go on to say was if they are part of that right-wing ecosystem, they're probably making more money than us. So good luck to them. They probably are. Good luck to them. Enjoy.

So yeah, Patonk updates. First one from Dave. Hi guys, just a quick update on my glamorous Patonk career. Sadly, I can't claim a world ranking, probably because I'm somewhere in the region of a thousandth rather than a hundredth. That's good. He says that's a bit tragic, isn't it? Not really.

He said, when you've got the ties, the French and half of Africa basically playing the sport professionally, and we Brits are just rocking up with the Lucas Aiden, the pre-match, Bacon Sani, it's quite difficult. That said, I was part of Bulldog Town Paton Club and we ranked sixth in Europe. That's like winning Eurovision without a gimmick. He says, now I heard you both mentioned playing on sand. Come on lads, this isn't beach volleyball. We play on proper gravel terrain. Tim Potters, it might be, we've got some standards and believe it or not, it's a very skillful game. My money's on Pete. If you ever gave it a go, that's poor. Uh, purely cause he looks like a Patong player.

Can see him rocking a beret and full French attire. Luke, you've got more Sunder League fullback vibes. I was a Sunder League fullback at one point, so I don't take offense at that. You're tall, so you're further away from the floor as well, so it's probably more difficult. Generate more power with the bigger levers though. It's a good point, but I mean, it's not about power, is that the Patanque power is minimal.

But Dave's also done the research. He says bonus points for you. There are terrains and clubs dotted around Ferryman, Leon Solent, including a lovely one by Stokes Bay. That's right near where I grew up, so can check that out and if by some miracle you're both genuinely up for it there are ball bars popping up around London probably hipster scenes with beer food and metal balls flying around. So just back from the Nationals we won the National Triples humble brag but came as runners up in the Singles and Doubles finals still three

finals and the trophy ain't too shabby for a lad throwing balls in the car park. I've got £200 towards the career earnings. Looking forward to hearing if anyone else listening plays any shit sports. Love what you do. Cheers Dave. I love that. I love that. He's like the bad boy of Patonk, sort of absolutely slating the game on its own terms. Very enjoyable. Can you read the next one from Johnny? I've actually got Lauren Jiters at the moment and I can't speak that much. Okay I'll do the reading. You'd make me read this because you think it's gonna be mugging me off. Hi guys long time no see, first time email. I meet a group of six all 30 years old are attending Glass for me this year and can

safely say we're extremely disappointed with Neil Young. Might just be our group but none of us have heard of him. What the fuck? I tried to give his music a go, but just not my cup of tea. We all love Bob Dylan. Keep it the great work. Thanks, Johnny from Bristol. Yeah, that's Johnny's email about Neil Young. Sea grade of the air grade, as I believe I coined last week. In fairness, I was after another Patonk email, also from Johnny. Oh, sorry!

To be fair, I got the same email. Okay, right. Fire. Same name, just above that, Peter. I'll come on to the Neil Young thing in a minute, but I want to stay on the Patong theme for the moment. Sorry. Yeah. Okay. I'll do that one. So we've got the Harry from Patong in London. Is that the one you want? No. Johnny from Patong. You've highlighted already. You've already highlighted it, Peter.

Hence, we're thinking you were going to read it. There we go. Well, I didn't see you highlighting, did I? You've highlighted it, you maniac. I didn't touch it. I did not touch it. Look at this email. I look at my screen. I searched for Chalkwell Beach in the email. I didn't highlight the email. Cause you searched for Chalkwell Beach in the email. They ignored the email. Hi Pete. Fella Leoncy Residia. There was a baton court down by Chalkwell Beach. Confusingly, there is also a restaurant in Southend called Le Petit Patong. That's a weird name.

Which is next to a bowling green but does not appear to actually have a Patong court. I think you ought to finally invite Luke to your house and challenge him to a game of Patong down by the beach while you're at it. I'm happy to umpire, although I will need to look the rules up. On an unrelated note, while I'm emailing... He's not even talking about Patong anymore! You've lured me in with Patong chat! The Patong's ended.

Yes, on a unrelated note, while I'm emailing, I wonder if you had any trouble with badges down your way. You've mentioned foxes, but the issue on my road is actually badges. Got a new lawn in and they immediately ripped it up to shreds in what seemed like more of an act of vengeance than a serious effort to find food. I've been using a combination of chilli, citronite and garlic to deter them, but when this proved ineffective I stepped to diluted male urine. My own, I didn't procure it from someone else. Don't dilute it. This touch let your freak fly flag fly fly. Let the aqua vita flow through. This touch would seem to have done the job for now. Lion dung is next on my list if required. I grew up in a relatively rural Yorkshire and never saw a live badger in all my time there. I didn't expect to not only see them but be engaged in a territorial

dispute with them all so I was listening living in a city on the Essex coast. Johnny in Leoncy just down by Fishalicious, a place that I visit every single Friday. Is that a fish and chip shop or a fish restaurant? Very best fish and chip shop in town. So there we go. Very nice. It was the one that I went in with my fish shoes and looked like a fish pervert. Oh yeah. That's fish flops. One of the things that could only happen to you. Fish flops. So I saw a real badger once in a car park in Gosport and I was stunned at the size of the fucking thing. I don't know. They're so big. I don't know

why you wouldn't see them. Yeah. What's that about? So they only come out at night, don't they? They only come out at night. In the words of the worst song on Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness, they only come out at night. Which is mad. Do you know that record well? Not massively. I mean, I've listened to it a lot because it's good. But yeah, it was a double side. It was a double disco, wasn't it? It's got It was a double side, it was a double disco, wasn't it? It's got basically Tonight Tonight Zero, Here Is No Why and Bullet With Butterfly Wings. Today's? Today's as well? Today's on Siamese Dream, which is a fucking brilliant record as well. But that run of, I've just realised there's another song in between isn't there? If it was Tonight Tonight then Zero then Here Is No

Why then Bullet Butterfly Wings that is a great one. Great run isn't it yeah. I can see why it sold so many. Yeah but it's a song in between it. Anyway a good record that much like are you familiar with the Use Your Illusion records by Guns N' Roses? Not hugely, no. So obviously it's kind of interesting because with Mel and Collie and with Use Your Illusion one and two, if you can dense those down just to one record, I mean it's probably going to be one of the greatest of all time, but they can't do it can they? Because the ego's getting in the way. Axl Rose's ego, Billy Corbyn's ego.

What were we talking about? Badgers, badges. I was getting my, what was I doing? Oh yeah, so my friend Lewis used to live in a flat in Gosport way before the rest of us had our own places, right? Because we still live in the home. So we used to go around there all the time and... Whoa, steady. You criticised me for exposing you as a drug enthusiast last week. Legalise it! And very late one night I was leaving his apartment complex, shall we say. For some munchies.

And I heard a noise, yeah it was probably going to the all night garage, and I heard a noise behind one of the big red biffa bins and it was a massive badger. It was almost a bit like the British version of seeing a bear. It's the best we've got isn't it? The badger is terrified of you though right? It's not going to come near you. I don't know, isn't it covered in TB? You shouldn't fear any man I think. It just ran off. It didn't come anywhere near you. Was it definitely there if you'd been smoking the wacky backy all night? Maybe, you shouldn't fear any man I think. It just ran off. It just ran off. Yeah, it didn't come anywhere near me. Was it definitely there if you'd been smoking the wacky backy all night?

It was definitely there. Could have been a small child in a cagoule. Could have been, yeah, could have been. That place was amazing because I think I told you before we used to sit on this balcony and watch all the fights at the kebab house. Ah yes, big fan of that. The kebab shop owners don't take any shit do they? No, well they've got knives.

They're well worthed as well. They've got big knives. Yeah, oh they've seen everything. They've seen all human life has to offer. That's what I told you, so that place was called, was it called the Sultan Grill? Good name. But the ocean breeze down on the seafront,

down the harbor, sorry, was one of the best moments of my life. And I told you, the guy there in front of me, called me the big boss. The big boss, yeah. I mean, like, if you work in a kebab house in a, you know, a town with a matlock, provincial town on the coast, a lot of naval officers. Wow. Not officers, enlisted men. Enlisted men. But you know that me and my mate Richie, who

you would absolutely love, we used to go to belly busters in farm. Belly busters. There's a belly busters in most towns, I think. We got t-shirts from them. They gave us belly busters t-shirts that the staff wear just because they were such good customers of theirs. I told you before, the guy who ran that place was obsessed with Holy Falls Northies. Right, yeah. He'd be like, there'd be a big queue on a Friday night and he'd be, yes please, lovely

jubbly. And if someone didn't have the right change, you go, you plonker, mate. You plonker, mate. Yes, please, mate. You plonker, mate. It's easy. It's easy to throw out those lines, isn't it? Because by that time, everyone's enchanted. If you saw a tall thin man, he'd go, you are Rodney, mate. Like that. It's brilliant. Would you like some garlic sauce? Yeah. Oh, God, I love garlic sauce.

Great stuff, isn't it? Great stuff. I was perturbed by you guys all eating garlic bread every night on tour before we're going to go see the listeners. Right. Well, it affected me. Yeah, but I whizzed around some cooking lager around my mouth before anybody knew. Like Vish would brush his teeth and stuff. Vish is quite an impressive traveller as well.

He's got like a good wash bag. Got a good wash bag. He sort of hangs up his wash bag and it's got like four or five different compartments and they're all kind of open and they're not, you know, covered in toothpaste like mine are. He also had a designer handmade comb. Right, okay. Which I was desperate to have a go on it.

It's crazy, he's got a lot of money. Is that what it is? Unbelievable. He must just be a class act. He must just be a class act. He must just be a class act. Anyway, this Johnny guy talking about Neil Young, I'm gonna read the email back again. Me and a group of six, all 30 years old, are attending Glastonbury this year.

And I can safely say we're extremely disappointed with Neil Young. Extremely disappointed with Neil Young. That is the worst sentence. He's gonna get hauled over the coals. That is the worst sentence anyone has emailed this show. We've had people wiping toilets with bread. I was watching these CGI guys go through CGI stuff. You're not moving on. Bear with me one second. Can I just say this? There is no world that exists

in which he says, we all love Bob Dylan, but we've not heard of Neil Young. Oh, get off. Fuck off. It's just, it's just nonsense. It's like saying, it's like saying I love. Just deleted the email. It's like saying, we all love the Beatles, me and my friends, but we've never heard of the Rolling Stones. Shut up. He's not, they're not up there with the Rolling Stone. Like he's not up there with. It's the equivalent. It's not though is it? There was this CGI guy that goes from shit CGI.

And yesterday they basically played a clip from the very first bit of cosmetic CGI work, which was removing a Blomfcock from Neil Young's nose on a live gig. That was in The Last Waltz, famously. So The Last Waltz is fucking the best live movie ever. Scorsese directed. It's the band's last ever gig. And by the way, if you're a massive Neil Young fan, right? Sorry, if you're a massive Bob Dylan fan, like our email, by the way, also, if you're emailing him with that, don't complain that you're getting shit from me because you know what you're doing. If you're a massive Bob Dylan fan, you know what The Last Waltz is.

There's no way you haven't seen The Last Waltz, in which case you know who Neil Young is because he's fucking prominent in it. He's in about three of the songs in it. So it's his fucking bullshit. Anyway, Neil Young, so The Last Waltz, Pete a brilliant live concert I had a film, like I said, directed by Scorsese and every song really the band get a new special guest out, right? Neil Young's one of them and Neil Young comes on and he is fucking off his rocker. Yeah, and he's got a rock of cocaine, proper 70s musician cocaine as well, right?

Imagine what that's like, up his nose about that big. Yeah, it's like a pot belch, like at any moment he punches on nose and just goes poof like that. Yeah, get a big hit. Again, I'd come back to like, I had no idea people could take that much cocaine, like it's just in your, and not have constant physical problems from it. Wild.

Well, who knows? A lot of them have had problems. A lot of them seem absolutely fine. It's like you with your 10 cans of cooking lager. You couldn't drink cooking lager in 10 cans when you were 18. You had to build up the tolerance. It's a good point actually. By far the most overdose deaths of heroin are when people come off the back of a rehab. Yes, because they think they can handle the good stuff. Exactly, and they die. Oh, that cheerful note. Yeah, Patonk and Leconk are out. Just don't email in saying you don't know who Neil Young is.

I just don't think he's... And expect me to not get annoyed. But the conversation we've had is that you think he's not in that upper echelon. Yeah, and I fear for the Neil Young fans like you that are going to feel very annoyed when most of the coverage is who the fuck is Neil Young. He's headlined it before. People are just being performative about it. I don't think they are being performative. All I'm saying Peter is...

I can see a reckoning for Mr Young. I begrudgingly accept your argument that he's not in the top. Right. But there's a difference between that and saying I've never heard of him. Come on. It's Gambino or no. You were on a radio station for fucking 10 years. We'll be back on, yeah, and I regularly play New Young and I like him, but I just fear

for his fans. They're going to be very upset with how he is received. Thursday the 5 fifth of June. We'll be back myself and Mr. Luke Moore and look after yourselves. Hello. Look at pgo.com. If you want to get your batteries in, we've had a sort of upsurge in Indian summer

sort of speaker, um, a surprise kind of like, you know, late, some decent late entries into this and, um, I can see from the email that we're going to be doing, um, next time around, um doing next time around, there's an absolutely beautiful photographic example of a battery. Look forward to that. So yes, we'll see you then. Bye! The Luke and Pete Show is a STAC production and part of the A-Cast Creator Network.