The Luke and Pete Show - Wet Music and Big Shoes

Episode Date: March 19, 2026

Luke’s distaste for what he calls “wet music” might have ruined a recent night out, but his negativity is no match for Pete’s beef with a certain Instagram content creator. Also on today’s agenda: robots on mental health walks, video game discussions and a massive question of the day from Mr Moore: "why are we acting like WWIII isn’t already happening?" Send us your latest stories, questions and comments here: [e-mail]. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's beginning to look a lot like the Logan Pitchaw for a Thursday. How the W are you doing, Luke, Emil. You're all right, man, you're right? I thought you're going to give me a noddy holder. No, no, no, no. It is not the season. I'm not doing it. I know you like me to do it.

It's not happening. It's not happening. Does it feel like it strange your vocal cord is doing it? Yeah, I think it will shorten my voice span. Something that I very much need, because that is my word. Is the only thing we've got, any, you and I? It's the only as the song Mishapes by Pulp once said. Oh, speaking of which, I went to, it's funny.

Right, I went to go and see a band last Saturday called The Hold Steady. Do you remember them? I remember the Hold Steady? They were great. What was their, Chips Ahoy, that was their big song. Chips Ahoy and Stuck Between Stations was their two big songs. Such a good album. It was a bad thing.

gig. Anyway. It was a bad gig. What happened? I just didn't like it. I just didn't really like it. I thought it was shit. It doesn't matter.

Why? It just wasn't my cup of tea. I went to, so listen, a few people were going. My good friend Woody was going. Yeah. And my other good friend, Mark was going. But Mark couldn't go because he had a family kind of emergency. So Woody said to me last minute, do you like the whole steady?

And I said, not really. And he said, I've got a spare ticket tomorrow night. Do you want to come? And I was like to see Woody. I'd like to have a night out, cut the beers. I'll come. Lou. So I went.

What's it like being wrong all the time? Like, it must be exhausting. Used to it. The whole steady are a good band. They're good. They are good. You met the Wi-5 Axis too, right? Yeah.

Yeah. She was in the Hall Steady. That's how we met, yeah. What do you mean? That's how you meant. No, what I mean is that I'm always wrong. Right. Okay, fine.

You've put up and be a couple hours a week. She has to put off me every day being wrong. I'm just saying that it's just, they're a good, they're a good fun band. What have you got good? It's fun for crying out loud. So I just didn't like to give. It doesn't matter, though. That's not the point I'm making.

Because I'm actually making a point that makes me look even worse. So just get out my way and let me do it. Right. Okay. So I end up going with this guy who's a good friend of mine, known him for 20 years, and a guy who's a friend of his that I'd never met before, right? And my friend Woody is also massively into his metal music. So we met for a beer beforehand at the Black Heart in Camden.

Have you been there? Yes. Great bar. Great bar. Plays amazingly noisy music. One of Camden's finest. People are super friendly. I'd never been there before.

I had a lovely time. And the guy I had never met before, we were just chatting because obviously we didn't know each other. We talked about music because we're going to a gig and all the rest of it. And I was doing my usual belligerent stuff when he said to me, something came up like, do you like better than Sebastian? I said, not really. I don't really like wet music.

Right. And he said, what do you mean wet? And I said, you know, like beta male kind of, you know, whiny kind of stuff. Stuff like that. I completely disagree. You listen to, what's your favorite? You like the beta band and stuff. That is not wet music.

It's very moist. The lead singer of the beta band is a UFC fighter. He used to work on a building site. It's not wet music. I don't think you understand what I mean when I say wet music. What's the one that I bought you a pin badge? Because I find it very hard to describe it. What is the band that I bought you a pin badge for that I went to see?

in South England. Teenage fan club. They're not wet. They're great. They're great. They may as well be fucking Norwegian. They are saw damn. Well,

I'm not asking me music criticised. Thank you very much. There's a lot of rules to this. You understand them. Yeah. That's funny that, isn't it? Anyway, I said... I said that one D chess.

I said that the worst example of it was Pulp. And I think Pulp were like his favorite band. He got properly vexed. It just sounds like a cool It sounds like you'll ruin the night for everybody Yeah, I did I think I might have done I think I actually might have done

But thankfully because it's a gig, it's loud You haven't got to do much talking anyway So it's fine But I don't think I did myself to it Say again Maybe you thought you said the punk band pop No I said pop I think I slagged off Jarvis Cocker as well

Right, okay I said some stuff about those types of musicians Which I can't say on this show Because it'll be libelous But you know that kind of thing Right okay What I suspect about them as human beings. Right.

And yet, whenever I criticize that lad, that earnest boy who takes himself out on dates with his little fucking... Well, yeah, I don't really get that angle. Explain to listeners what you mean. There's a lad on Instagram. And I can't get in it precisely why I dislike him. But he is a man who, by all indications, finds life a little bit difficult. and he celebrates having a little sort of nights out on your own and stuff like that. But he filmed us off doing it.

He made a load of pancakes for his neighbours on pancake day. It was really sweet. Just nobody wanted him. One person encouraged him and shouldn't have done in my opinion. I just find the whole act cynical because I am cynical. He's holding up a mirror up upon me. And every time I have expressed a distaste at his... clart that he puts on Instagram

to anyone who will listen every single person to a man and said, Peter, you're a bitter man. And I say, yes, yes, I am. And I think you should understand as well. Yes, yes, I am. That cynicism is just cowardice in a different form. Right. It's easy to be cynical, though, isn't it? That's a slogan. But I think, I think if you think about

it, cynicism is basically just cowardice and different. Because it's really easy to be cynical about anything. But would it be fair to say that I am not always cynical about everything and I do find joy in things that other people wouldn't find joy. Yeah, I think that's fine. You find your way.

Air conditioning ducts. But I do think that you are A, a coward and B. No. I think that you can be an overly cynically negative person when you don't need to be. I think that whenever I am, look, I am. You don't let yourself enjoy things as much. You stop yourself enjoying things because you think if I enjoy this too much, I'm it's going to go wrong.

I know that. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's just a lived experience of every single person. But you've got a nice life. Every single person that I have celebrated and loved the honesty and the earnestness of their product has ruined it in some small way. They've always turned out to be a problem. They've always turned out who have a, you know, a task.

Well, you know what you say of everyone you meets a dick, yeah. But they always start off kind of like, oh, yes, I love this. It's really life-firming stuff. You killed a woman. It's always something. It's always something happens. And to the people who are enjoying that, that lad, that nervous lad stuff,

I, I find his stuff a little surface level. And I just, I just want to check. I want to find out. I want to find out the guts on him. I want to find out the juice.

I venture a theory. He is basically creating content in a language that you don't understand. This is the fucking SNO, care conversation all over again. It's not for me. It is for me. Well, no, I don't think it is because I think he's just doing something in

it. He might as well be doing it in French for all you can understand it. I can understand. No, I can understand everything about it. I just don't believe it. I don't believe it. The way I would argue is this. Ernest young lads doing stuff on the internet.

There's a lad with quite severe ADHD and a lot trauma and stuff. He does, he's like this uh he's a he's a funny little fella he's uh he does stuff he owns a he runs a clothes he runs a clothes shop on the south bank and he goes pie and mash piece piece and fucking or he goes pie and mash piece out and he and he and he uh and he runs a cloud shop on a south bank and he's got idh dhs and he and he you know he finds life difficult and i find his stuff earnest i find his stuff uh good and i like him right that lad though it's the lad of big john like big john

And I like Big John. See what I mean? I like Big John. I like people who've got a bit of honesty. And I just, I don't know what it is. I'm pointing your finger at me down the camera, poking me. I feel, I'm feeling attacked. I just find it.

Put it this way, Peter, though. Do you think there are truly dreadful people in the world? Yes. I am one of them. It stands to reason there must be truly nice people in the world. Yes. Andy Brussels. Just a nice bloke.

Just a nice bloke. Yes. There's no, there's no, there's no too emotive. Just a good dude. And we've dug. We've prodded and we've probed. Even when he told me he didn't want to, you couldn't do the ramble anymore.

I felt bad. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean like, yeah. What can I've done to have kept handing longer is what I thought. Not slagged him up on every show. Possibly. Yeah, possibly that. Good place to start, maybe.

Too delicious. I will not have Lukiemoe telling me that I'm cynical. Outrageous. No, I think you are. I think, do you know what? I've had this conversation with a couple of other people fairly recently. Men of a certain age and it's really easy, I think. It's an easy default position to be cynical, to be negative.

But if being sarcastic and being cynical is pathetic behaviour. It's the sort of people who are online and just chat a lot. So I go, this is all bullshit. I'm not, I fundamentally believe I, if somebody presents an act to me and I go, Act. An act. You're like, you're kind of emperor nearer. Everything is a performance.

Everything on Instagram is a performance. Everything on Instagram is a performance. If I find it charming and judging it on his merits, I genuinely celebrate those things. And I have a track record on this very sure of celebration. The woman on fucking YouTube who just reviews bus routes in London. It's sort of like a West Indian woman who just, who just, just all she does is get excited about cancelled bus routes.

She's brilliant, right? And I love her. And I, and I do. do celebrate these people I generally find charming and important and fun and honest but I just find this act a little bit too brought. Fair enough. What's his name?

I can't remember. You'll have seen him around he's little Brit Awards with his fucking dolphin or whatever the hell he's got. What? He's got a little toy thing. It's a fucking thing that people have sometimes to make him feel better. All I'm saying is there's lots of people out there and this is a message to myself as well as anyone else.

You know, sometimes it's really hard to just remind yourself that you've got a nice life and finding joy is an act of bravery every day because it's easy to default into really shit mindsets and it's hard to allow yourself the unbridled joy I'm trying to move house in a moment right

cynicism kills I'm not letting myself I'm not letting myself even imagine what it'll be like to be in a nice new house because I can't let myself I'm not brave enough I think that if I do that it'll go wrong and it'll go to shit and it'll be my fault right right that's a horrible position to be in

Right. You know? Yeah. But I would say, but I have to be clear, I am cynical about a lot of things in my life, but people who create content online, I will judge them on their, judge them on their merits.

A big John gets a good old thumbs up, does he? Big John gets a thumb, a thumb into one of his fried chicken balls and into my mouth. Did you like a Chinese with Big John? I would love a Chinese with Big John. You can get lifted, would you? No, I wouldn't.

No, I wouldn't. Because it's funny, because him and Tom Skinner were kind of adjacent, and now Tom Skinner's taken the, whatever it is, they call it the pill or whatever it is, to go weird. Yeah. And our mutual friend, who's also called John, said the other, maybe a couple of years ago now, Tom Skinner, you watch, he'll get co-opted by the right wing grifted,

because he's not bright enough. It'll get taken in. Exactly what's happened. What do you think about his mental health walks? There's always one block who's dressed in a spiffy way, like in a sort of fancy way. I saw a brilliant meme the other day of that guy from Anthropic saying that Claude is showing the AI product Claude is showing signs of human level anxiety. Right?

Right. It's probably a PR spin, but it makes, if it's true, it means they might be, it might be on the way to getting, you know, what's it called? Artificial General Intelligence, right? And the first straight out of the gate, the first reply I saw was a robot called Claude, AIed into a Tom Skinner mental health walk. Fantastic. I mean, wasn't Claude and... I don't know, it wasn't Clair.

It was Palantir's CEO. What's his name? Oh, I can't remember. But he's like, he's... Alex Carp, his name is. Yeah. He wouldn't notice if his product had. any kind of anxiety.

I sometimes think to myself you look at you look at say so when you see like clips you feel that you end up feeling a bit like Adam Curtis when you point these things out like a shit Adam Curtis but when you line up

if you were to line up short videos five seconds each of all those big CEOs Karp Zuckerberg Teal fucking Bezos and said and Musk these are the most powerful people in the world is that a good thing?

Yes or no vote now. No one is voting yes. No one. It's a really, really bad smell test. Yeah. The big debate around Anthropic and Open AI

with Sam Altman is that the Department of Defense and the US wanted Anthropic to sign over a load of stuff Yeah, Hexeth basically is band andthropic We want fully automated decision making on things like fucking taking out enemies and stuff

and the Anthropic CEO is like, look, you're not fucking doing that. It's nowhere. it's nowhere they're accurate enough. I can't sign off on that. And so he just basically got every single contract torpedoed. And they essentially,

they basically did a blacklisting of his company, which is against a million different laws. And then Sam, we'll do it. To be honest, without being too earnest, speaking of earnestness, since I've become a father,

I cannot, and this is probably a bit cowardly and privileged. I can't, I can't watch or read about children being hurt or killed. Yeah. It's just too painful for me. Anything, I always spoke out of this for, but it's kind of like I feel like having a kid,

and it's something I guess everybody sort of goes through and it's almost pretty, you know, pretty lame to point it out. But it makes me feel like before that, I was a psychopath. Before I had to look after a kid, I was a psychopath. Then I could read happily about, I'll watch a million fucking Moors murder fucking documentaries and stuff like that. You always used to watch videos and internet of people

being killed, you weirdo. No, no, no, it's not about that. It's not about the... Yeah, because you used to say, it helps me remind myself that I'm just a meat puppet. You literally said that to me. I can still watch that. I still watch grown-ups, but I still watch grown-ups kill themselves.

No, it's more just like, it's more just the murder of children, you know, anything like that, you sort of go... I know, yeah. But it makes you rise you up and you're like, why do I feel... Why do I feel stronger about this now? Yeah. Now I've got a kid.

Was I that much of a psychopath before? or sociopath that I couldn't put myself in in parent shoes. You know when people say, you know, as a father of daughters, I can't believe it. Like, you don't need to be a father. Yeah, it's such a fucking lame or thing to see, isn't it? You don't need to be the father of a daughter

to understand that violence towards women. But it's certainly more visceral one would suggest, isn't it? But I think it probably does open people up in a much more visceral way emotionally, and that's what they mean if you were being generous to them. I think it's ridiculous to say that. I would never say that. But I kind of understand where they're coming from. I just think it's articulated quite poorly.

Look, but here's one for you. Tell you what, Here's one to think about going into the break, right? Right, okay. I don't know why people aren't admitting and reporting that we're already in World War III. See after this. Lukie's question of the day. If you think about that.

If you think about it, right, Russia and River vogue Ukraine, that's been over four years. That's a hot war. That's happening every single day, right? Even though the news cycle can't keep up with it. You've got U.S. and Israel bombing. Iran, Lebanon, you've got Iran foreign missiles all over the Middle East.

Mining the straightforward of a moose. Like, it's, you know, when we talk about the World War, like the First World War, we sort of imagine that it started on one day, right, let's all have a war. No, you know what I mean? And also, the first world was never, as far as I know, the First World War was never being fought

in every single country in the world. It wasn't being fought between, you know, in Argentina or the, you know, the war. wilds of Alaska. I mean, maybe it was. I don't fucking know.

But it's an example. So to me, it feels like, because you know that historians now, they tend to the accepted kind of wisdom around the first world and second world war,

wars are that essentially they're now treated as almost like one big war. So from 1914 to 1945. Yeah. Okay. Because of the, because there was a lot of upheaval between the wars,

there's a lot of shit going on. They tend to view them in a far more broader sense. Like, to me it feels like World War III already started. Yeah, I mean, if, but the thing is, the great variable is that this whole TACO Trump, in it, as soon as it starts, as soon as it starts, as it starts, as it starts, as soon as it starts, the old Futsi and the Dow Jones and stuff like that, it's, uh, it, it, he starts, he tends to sort of back down, doesn't he? And I, and I think he realizes he's bitten off

more than he can chew this situation. Let me, let me, I understand why you're saying that, but let me try. And then it'll just be Netanyahu doing Netanyahu things that he's always been, always playing. standing to do. Let me shut this out there, right? I think even now people give Trump way too much credit and what I mean by that is I saw a video the other day of Trump in the 2016 Republican primary. So he's trying to become the Republican candidate for president before he's elected. And I'm not going to say he's good, but he's on that stage with all those other candidates. and it's 10 years ago, roughly almost of the day, and he is wildly different to what he's like now.

But he's speaking in coherent sentences, he's snapping back at people, he's doing zingers, people are laughing, like it's coherent compared to now where it is increasingly bizarre. And I just don't think, like the other day he did, the war is won, the war won't be won yet, it's not a war,

direct contradiction of all, all the other officials are saying. The Iranians Tomahawk themselves. Yeah. The Iranians Tomahawk themselves. An undermining of Marco Rubio all in the same five minutes. In his big shoes.

In Marco. They've all got big shoes. That's a lovely detail that. That is a proper like Death of Starlin, Armando Yanucci kind of detail that. I'm going to buy you some big shoes to wear. For those who haven't seen that, Trump reportedly bought all of his inner circle pairs of shoes that he thought were the best shoes to wear. Didn't bother finding out what their sizes were.

they were too frightened to tell them they didn't fit and they're all wearing them anyway. I mean, that is incredible. Can you get shoes adjusted professionally? Resize? Yeah, surely you must be doing it. I don't know. It's quite structural, isn't it?

You'd have to close out the, you'd have to close out. You'd have to unwrap it basically and then wrap them back up again. Just find out what shoes they are. Just find out what shoe size they are. You don't remember, is he? They're all millionaires. They're expensive shoes. They're custom shoes for crying out loud.

How much is a custom shoe going to cost you? $500,000. They're millionaires. Yeah, exactly. I mean, because you know, I give me a nice watch or something. Put him for expensive. Well, fucking hexagon with his fucking lobster rolls that he's eating every fucking day. Get them, get them, I love a lobster roll.

Get them one of those Mickey Mouse watches, those pickup artists get. Yes. Just a little shiny thing to show somebody. How is your day game at the moment? You open up any sets? It's not really, it's not open up any sets, yeah. To be fair, to be honest, me saying that my last, any, the last time a one was interested, in me was pre-COVID.

That was mentioned in bed last night. Yeah. My partner said. The partner of actually listens to the show. The Wi-Fi have accessed do. Just for Intel? Intel on me. So obviously the great LC, my father and all this one to the show. Right.

Okay. I know that he's a pretty regular listener. Shout out of LC. The Wi-Fi Vaxi isn't bothering this shit. No. She's got loads of podcasts, but they're not the ones I make. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know, Sarah, I have time, to be honest. It's a good honor. It's quite the flex for, to be walking around the house. and the Wi-Fi have access to is walking around the house as well she has got AirPods in she's having a good old chuckle while folding some clothes or something and I see the phone on the bed and it's a shut off I've never heard of have you um where do you stand on people wearing headphones because Sarah's one who will play the music shows listen to on a phone so everyone hears it

no no no I'm a headphone person yeah you got have a headphone in you got to have a headphone in you got to have a headphone in but the problem is that does mean that you You can't hear anything that's going on. So that's a bigger problem. One would suggest safety-wise people. Well, thankfully, the good people at Apple's noise-counseling features are diabolically poor. So you can still hear when that's right of I'm concerned. Well, the little earbuds.

I went from, I bought some, like, Sony ones. And I went, I had old Sony ones, and I got some new sunny ones. And I was like, has the noise cancelling always been that bad? It's really bad compared to my both. The both ones I've got a fucking sensational in comparison. Yeah. Really poor. I wouldn't listen to music around the house when there's other people in.

But shout out, Sarah. if you're listening, Sarah, I still love and respect you. And I will be team you ahead of Pete. So I'll say it's fine. Take it off this move. Before we go, can we just do a quick five minutes on Arcaders? Have you played it yet? I don't really know what.

It's one of the few... It's one of the few that... The problem we're like shooters. It's not really a shooter, though. It's called it a Shooter, but I don't know how much of a shooter it really is. Well, like multiplayer shooters, everyone's had to go at it in the last... so many years. And like in the middle of COVID,

a load of money from the city flooded the zone. Every company kit was coming out with a shooter. And everybody wanted to be the next fortnight, the next PubG. They wanted to, you know, be the next one. And every last one, apart from Arc Raiders, maybe a little bit of battlefield,

and the ones that other people have sort of played, they've all died. But Arc Raiders, inexplicably, has managed to kind of has managed to continue has managed to sort of get a bit of a foot hold really a small foothold but a foothold nonetheless

but what I know about video games you can write on a postage stamp as you well know but to me it's not really a shooter right so the premise is you live underground in like a post-apocalyptic world and you get elevators up to the surface and you loot and scavenge stuff to build things and you take out

eventually you take out things like drones and robots and shit like that and almost like a hell-divers style. And then there are other players, real players, marauding around the same maps, and you can choose whether you team up with them or shoot them or ignore them or whatever, but you can talk to them when they come into your vicinity.

So I would say an element of it is a shooter, but it's nowhere near the same as PubG or Fortnite or anything. It's nowhere near a battle royale game. It feels like more management. It feels like just managing people. So you've got to be there. You've got up in squads. Pipe in the wall.

If you get killed by a drone or a fellow player up on the surface, you lose all your loot. Right, okay. So you've got to get it downstairs before it's... Correct. Decide what to take with you, knowing you might lose it, and then bring back what you can. It's all that upgrades and level up and levels up and level up and that kind of stuff. So I think it's...

I would say it's like... And then also you've got an X amount of time to get to an extraction point before you leave like Hell Divers. So it's almost like an extraction... It's like an open-world extraction shooter, I'd say. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

That's the pitch. I just never understand where Fortnite and the other one sort of end and where that one's... This one's pretty addictive. It's like strangely addictive. What's your little bass looking like right now? You don't have a base really.

Right. Well, maybe you should build one, mate. Should, yeah. I've got... The other thing is about it is, right, is that what I find with the games these days is they're marketed at adults with money, right? Which to me seems pretty sensible.

I mean, that's basically what Sony brought in, right? in the day. Yeah. We can make loads of money if we actually market these adults who've got money rather than just kids, right? And but the problem is I think far too often, and I think arc radius does fall foul with this a little bit, it rewards people who play the game an awful lot. And I can't really play it an awful lot because I've got a job and I've got a family

and that kind of stuff. So it does feel quite painfully slow to upgrade to exciting shit that you can actually do. Yeah. Because if you're like a student and you just play it all day every day, I'm sure you're flying. Can you not do the Elon Musk thing and get someone else to sort of cover it for...

There's no fun of that, is there? Chuck those of money, I just put 500 quid into the game. Yeah, yeah. Sort of win, yeah. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. Pay to win, pay to win. Did you...

Speaking of things coming from underground. You should part, though, by the way, because I've got a little squad. Got a little squad. Go on, carry on. There's a game where you play as Norm's stealing pants I want to play. Oh, good.

Running big those hours, steal their pants and run out. Have you seen that big pipe in Northarck? go japan that's coming out the ground no i'm gonna go there is a pipe yeah google osaka pipe and it'll be there in the new section massive underground pipe shoots up 18 meters above street in oscar look how big it is imagine like just coming out the fucking floor for no reason it just fucking comes out the floor i think water's some kind of water table thing but um yeah just a big like it's about the size of like a moderately it's like a 10 story building in it like coming out of the fucking floor.

What, it just flew out of the floor? Yeah, and it's not like a marketing thing for Super Mario or something. It's just a big fucking pipe that I think they're installing. They just suddenly decided to sort of go, you know what? I want to grow out the ground like a beanstalk. It's absolutely incredible. I'm scared of it. You're scared of UFOs.

I'm scared of whatever's coming out of that fucking thing. Yeah, fair enough. Speaking of Mario, I was chatting to my mate yesterday about, do you remember a game back in the day for the Commonwealth All-64 called the Great Gianna Sisters? Yeah, it was a copy of... A direct representative of Super Mario Bros. Yeah, I think Nintendo made... I think because they...

I think the box of the Grouchion sisters did say, fucking plumber's better fuck off or something. And Nintendo actually gave them a ban hammer on that one. I think it was the second title. I loved it. It was very accomplished. It was in Scandinavia and someone in Scandinavia who liked video games, loved playing Super Mario Bros.

Told his developer mate to make a game exactly like this, but legally distinct enough so that it didn't get sued. He did that. It looked almost exactly the same, and they were instantly cease and desisting, and that was the end of it. But I think it was more than Mark. I don't think you can kind of...

But it kept getting shared around. It kept getting pirated on my cassettes and stuff, didn't it, which is why it became big, which is quite interesting. Amazing. Yeah, I mean, to have anything scrolling, like a scrolling background on an Amstrad or a Commodore, those things are really difficult to do

because those computers didn't do those things naturally, but consoles, they're designed to do one thing, scrolling, you know, fast... graphics sort of moving around, loads of colours. Computers weren't designed to do that. They were designed to do like a multitude of things. So the scrolling side of things is quite difficult. So getting a scrolling platformer on, you know, the 8 and 16-bit machines.

It took some work. It took some work. There we go. I wonder you could, you probably get on an emulator on your old Mackey B now, have you wanted. You probably could. Do people say Macie B for MacBook? No. Should do, shouldn't they?

No, it sounds lame. We'll be back. We'll be back. we'll be back on I'm going to be one of those guys who do we speak out of this show or the last one I'm going to go take my

Mackey B to the Brits and I'm going to say Why have you brought your Mackey B? I don't need to be Mackey B Google stuff Didn't it didn't you bring that into the story But hey fine

But Mackey B just a bit twee in it That was my point Anyway We'll be back on Monday Hello at LukeBitcho.com If you would like to agree with me Go fuck yourself if you don't

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My telly not working It's actually the next door neighbor's tree that one There you go Well don't you touch that I've got to have a conversation with the fucking next door neighbor There's a tree Leaning on my fucking fence post He goes to me, do me a favour?

I want to get the fence done. Can you, you, you had your fence done? You know, I was like, yeah. It's about 2018. It's like, do you, um, dig out who you're used to see if I get in time? Why are you putting this on me? Shooter as an invoice, isn't it? You're a neighbour, aren't you?

Just look up fences. Just fucking find a company. I don't fucking remember. You probably would. You like giving people information. Listen, if I say to you, stop being cynical. It is cynical, isn't it? actually it's cowardly but he's put it on me only lying oh do you

he's not putting on you just asking a bit of intel because it's hard to trust you know trades people sometimes i said to him i can't remember johnny bads what they called flashing the pans what fly by nights yeah carpet baggers what is it jack the lads jack the lads carpet buggers by the way speaking up before we go my friend of my friend of mine moved down from glasgow to a particularly rough part of portsmouth and one of the first things that happened was a bloke came around to his house who was a traveller and said, do you want to help cutting that bushback? I can see you've just moved in.

And he knew nothing about this kind of thing. And was like, oh yeah, thanks, that'd be really helpful. Just thought he was a neighbour. Right. Broke just cuts his bushback for him. And just knocks the door again and says, 300 quid. He's like, what? He's like 300 quid.

Brilliant. Like, properly like sinister and like, threat. That is awkward. That is awkward. Yeah. Anyway, see you later. Wouldn't we all? Todda.

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