The Luke and Pete Show - What length are your socks?

Episode Date: June 25, 2020

Today’s Luke and Pete Show begins with a serious discussion about the likelihood of being struck by a meteorite. And when you crunch the numbers it's not actually that comforting...We also reminisce about the Bill Paxton vehicle Twister and have a good old chat about some classic low budget horror films. Elsewhere, Pete’s got a Netflix documentary to recommend, Luke’s giving Nirvana some love, and one of our listeners has offended everyone at the golf club.Get involved at [e-mail]! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

we are rolling this is the luke and the peach or i'm the luke bit of this particular situation and i'm talking to the peace bit of the particular situation i'm not really i'm pete hello luke how are you doing i'm very well thanks and i just think i can't help but um feel that when you mix us our names up like that you are benefiting from that uh well vish when we're on the football ramble yesterday vish uh called me luke he called you me didn't he yeah i heard that yeah i've already um firmly implanted myself into his subconscious good stuff exactly good start he sees he sees you as an authority figure he's looking around the room he sees marcus he looks at me where are the people who know their stuff he's thinking i'm going to pretend pete's look for a bit where's that bully that i found vaguely annoying is what he's thinking oh man

it's been such a busy week since we've uh since we recorded on on monday there are so many things happening uh that i have uh in poorly research i basically just went to a website. There has been a palm-sized lump of rock falling from the sky into Rajasthan, northern India, and it's made of germanium, platinum, nickel, and iron. Nobody knows where it's come

from. I mean, it's obviously just some kind of meteorite, but it looks all smooth, and it looks like it's got an eyeball it's really really interesting so uh yeah where's it come from it's come from um the space is it sky yeah i think it just fell from the sky but uh you'd be annoyed if you i'd be annoyed if i was even anywhere close to that falling because that is i'm going to use my favorite term indicative of a wider problem i'm going to get i'm going to get hit by lightning or something.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know exactly what the... I mean, apparently, I've got it in front of you now, right? National Geographic has done an article saying the chances of you being hit by a meteorite are... But still they come. But still they come. The problem, yeah. The problem with National Geographic is it's just,

listen, mate, I don't need 18 paragraphs. Just tell me the numbers. Stop showing us pictures. Apparently the lifetime odds of dying from a local meteorite, asteroid or comet impact are one in 1.6 million, which, by the way, doesn't seem that big no what's the lottery the lottery must be uh lower than that surely do you want some perspective i would like some perspective you've got a one in 90 chance of being killed in a car accident one in 250 for a fire one in 60,000 for a tornado of course i imagine all these depend on exactly where you

live uh because you ain't you ain't dying from a tornado in the uk one in 135 000 for lightning one in eight million for a shark attack again i live in west norwood that's not happening or one in 195 million for winning the powerball lottery i think this is an american article so that'll be for broadly speaking, for the US. So, I mean, you're basically a little bit more likely to be death by lightning and much, much less likely to be bitten by a shark and killed. If you're kind of driving towards a tornado in a car, who wins there? Did the tornado kill you? Did the car kill you?

Was it a combination of both? Yeah. What are the odds there? It the tornado kill you? Did the car kill you? Was it a combination of both? Yeah. What are the odds there? It's a good question. And then, of course, poor old Bill Paxton, who immediately comes to mind when you mention Twister, which is essentially what your inspiration for making that point was, right? Well, no, I was just literally thinking about driving a car into a tornado.

I can't drive, but I don't think it's really important in that particular situation. Poor old Bill Paxton passed away from a stroke sadly. He spent all that time chasing tornadoes. Tornado related did? Yeah, it wasn't really a tornado thing. I got him in the end. Great movie that by the way.

I remember being a young kid going to watch that at the cinema and having my mind blown to bits. Now people talk a lot about Jurassic Park as a kid and how watch that at the cinema and having my mind blown to bits now people talk a lot about jurassic park as a kid and that how good that was and we've talked about that recently on here saying that you know the special effects still look amazing and it's a masterfully done movie for lots of different reasons and everyone knows that but i'll tell you what twister doesn't get any love and twister blew my mind to bits when i was a kid well i think twister kind of was a

victim of its own success because um nobody needs to make any more films about twisters because it was good it happened so like if you're a hollywood executive let's make another film about twisters it's like well we've got one and it was good and bill paxton was in it so at what point do they say do they say yeah but that was 1996 i mean one thing i would say to those particular film producers and the money men who can have the power to green light such a movie The suits. Is say the budget for it was $90 million.

It made $500 million. Directed by Jan de Bont as well. Right. What did he do after that? I'm not a big film guy. It was his second film after Speed. Speed was one of his movies. Oh, that's good.

That's a good hit, right, isn't it? Yeah, and he also did Speed 2, Cruise Control, and then it went south. Before you know it, you're making Lara Croft, Tomb Raider. That wasn't bad. It's a good movie, Twister. I rate it.

I think we could be... My problem, Pete, with this would be, would you now be in a situation where the special effects would be so heavily relied upon that we wouldn't have that magic? Because we've all seen Sharknado. We have, yeah. I think that had a very low budget, though, to be fair. I think the Shark and the Nado, it was very cheap, very affordable.

I think you're very much kind of... What am I saying? You're very much kind of, what am I saying? You're very much kind of limiting the pool of willing investors when you present a film called Sharknado. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're talking to people who are very interested in money laundering

and tax write-offs. I think that's the that's very much the producers you're talking to on that one. These are the two main sources of funding we're going for for this movie okay exactly but i think i made about five of them though so oh well there you go but the thing is pete actually i think i'm also going to just jump in there and say i don't know if that's the full picture there because isn't there a a little kind of boutique industry around um a certain production company that's mo is is essentially just to make 150

films a year for a really cheap budget and hope like a few of them cross over and be cult hits and right and that's how they come that's the kind of business model so there are a load of people who are making films like that cheap i forget the name of the production company now but it might have been one of those maybe i think uh is it uve ball he does a lot of video he certainly used to do a lot of video game movies and he would buy or his company or whoever was funding them would buy these very very very popular video games uh the licenses very cheaply and make really cheap crappy films out of them but he that was very much his style of filmmaking. He would use cheap licenses.

And I don't think they were that unsuccessful because if you really like a video game, lots, and there's no more video game out there, you're probably going to go and watch the film, however bad it is, really. Yeah, true. This Sharknado was a sci-fi. Remember the sci-fi channel? Right, okay. It-fi remember the sci you know the sci-fi channel

right okay it's like a straight tv made a sci-fi channel but there is there is a um a film company do you know what i think it might be the one who made paranormal activity who oh that was a hit though wasn't it exactly exactly right so they that's what they do they go for like really cheap type movies um and then a bloomhouse that's what it's called yeah it is then bloomhouse so they make so they they what it's called. Yeah, it is then. Bloom House. So they make, so they know, they make mainly low budget horror films

and then hope a load of them cross over. So they made Paranormal Activity, they made Insidious. They actually, I think they started to branch out a little bit more. I think they might have even made Get Out as well. Really? Is that?

Yeah. Wow. Well, anyway, that's their model. Had a hit on the hands there. Speaking of horror films, though, I watched Hereditary earlier this week. Which one is Hereditary?

Am I going to have to write that down now? So it's by Ari Aster, the same guy who made Midsommar. Now, I watched Midsommar and I really, really enjoyed it, but I never got around to seeing Hereditary. It was kind of billed as being this amazing horror movie. It's got Toni Collette in it. She's just getting better and better, Toni Collette. She was always excellent, but she's just so good. Oh my God, she's so

good in it. Do you know what? I enjoyed it. I thought it was good. I thought it was quite frightening, particularly the last kind of act. I don't think it was as good as Midsommar personally, but that's possibly because I saw Midsommar first. But one thing I would say, Pete, is that Toni Collette is amazing in amazing in heavy literature she's so so good she's an excellent actor anyway but she's brilliant in that and i kind of wonder why it is that and it happens sort

of of comedy films as well why horror movie acting performances are sort of overlooked when it when it comes to award season that they're not really seen as being worthy, are they? Well, it's like, well, I mean, Get Out was a really good example. Obviously, it won a lot of awards, but it was, horror is like a dirty kind of, it's seen as cheap and like, you know, doing things cheaply and the devices are very hack. Same with zombie films and stuff like that.

There's very few zombie films that sort of break through um but they'll have their time in the sun again horror is definitely back in a big way you don't really see many horror films nominated for oscars and stuff i do not that matters i guess no but i think it will i think it will i think it will get better i think you could but i think it's classification i think film films don't want to be classified as horror because of that that they have that kind of stench of horror around them and nobody wants to give them awards. I mean, you would probably classify Parasite as being

a pretty stand-up horror film in many ways, but it's obviously not it obviously wasn't pitched as that. It was this kind of thriller. Yeah, of course it was wonderful. Looking at Chris Tilley who does our uh stakhanov production clash of the titles with uh alexane and vicky crump and they he goes to

fright fest every year and every year in leicester square uh for a week uh there's just a lot of like viewing houses just just given over completely to uh horror films and uh I've been to a couple of screenings, and there's some really good stuff out there with really good directors, really competent acting. And I think the accessibility of semi-pro filming equipment and lighting and things like that has really revolutionized indie filmmaking. The problem is there's just too much to bloody watch in there.

But, you know, obviously Netflix and Amazon are obviously helping with that. Yeah, there's just too much to bloody watch in there but you know obviously netflix and and amazon are obviously helping with that yeah there's way too many films these days for sure but but pete i was gonna say the reason i bring it up is because tony collette in that movie i mean i don't want to give it away in case anyone's not seen it but it's she's essentially a a mother of a family kind of managing her way as best she can through like a series of different sort of family tragedies and there's mental health aspects to it and lots of different things going on and i was just thinking as i was watching it i don't really know what more she can do in terms of an actor before she's going through the mill here it's a very physical performance like a very

emotionally wrought performance do you think i mean I don't know if she got as recognised for it as she should have done, but I suspect she probably didn't. I'm not a film expert, so I don't know, but it's not something that she's been well, I don't think been well awarded for, which I thought was a bit odd, really. Well, she's having a bit of a renaissance, I'd say, wouldn't you? Like the...

Let's look at what else she's been in. She's kind of. She was in Knives Out. She's good in that. Oh, yeah. That's a good film as well. I enjoyed that. She's also in Little Miss Sunshine, isn't she? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she's definitely back. Maybe she just took a few years out.

I mean, that's up to her. I watched it and I'll tell you what, I sort of said it at the time. You don't appreciate good acting until you see quite poor acting um i was watching a um like a documentary about uh the death of uh is it john john bernier ramsey do you remember that um yes i do remember that yeah beauty queen she's like a young one of those um uh child beauty queens it's all very it's very creepy to to british audiences but the american uh you know it's it's a big thing in America.

These ultra-competitive mums with big hair, they throw their kids into these kind of beauty competitions. It's a bit of a bone of contention in our household, Pete, actually, because my wife's a fan of watching this Toddlers and Tiaras show, which is basically all about that. I find it exploitative and weird, basically. Well, you used to be able to watch that on D-Max back in the day until they moved it to another channel.

So there you go. I think it was D-Max. It was that or Challenge. I remember being into all of the characters. TLC, right. Okay, yeah. Well, there was this production that I watched. It was fascinating.

What they did was they took a load of actors, amateur actors, semi-pro actors in Balder who obviously were in the city when the actual murder took place of the child. And so all of these kind of actors and basically cast seven versions of the mum seven versions of the dad seven versions of the police chief seven versions of the person who was accused of murdering her uh seven versions of the child and basically kind of told the story um from the point of like from

the point of view of actors going into a casting room and reading for the part of the actual um character right it was a fascinating way to tell a story it was a little bit kind of reductive because you you wanted to see the times when you know the the parents want larry king uh releasing their book and stuff like that but it was just fascinating to see these kind of like amateur actors um uh who who obviously knew a lot about the story because they were in balder at the time they they'd had lives around the case obviously in the ball i've been a ball it's not a big place it's kind of university town i think it is for uh for uh for the first but um it was fascinating to sort of see all these people kind of like um chewing their way through

the scenery some decent actors but mostly poor actors um kind of like chewing their way through the scenery. Some decent actors, but mostly poor actors, kind of trying to sort of read for these characters, but also giving their own opinions about what happened at the time when the actual murder took place. Where can I watch this, Peter? You can see it on Netflix. I can't remember what it's called, but Hunt it Out. It was fascinating.

It's a really, really interesting way to do a documentary about something that obviously, I mean, I think she died in the 90s i imagine there's been a million billion uh different uh well try and remember and dig it out because i'll give that a watch for sure that sounds yeah it's good um i want to i wanted to change tack slightly and talk about a story that caught my eye uh this week as well it's called casting john bennett sorry casting john bennett john bennett sorry casting john bennett i've seen it on netflix actually, advertised, but I've not got around to watching it.

I wondered if it was that one. Great. Okay, I'll give it a bash. Give it a bash. Did you see the acoustic electric guitar that Kurt Cobain played on his MTV Unplugged performance in 1993? Oh, yes.

The Viner Unplugged in New York has sold at auction for $6 million. I mean, that must be the most expensive guitar. I'm not sure the Beatles ones have gone. It's the most expensive guitar ever sold at auction. There's a lot to like about this story because I think his cardigan sold fairly recently for a good amount of money as well. But there's a lot to like about the story.

My favorite live album ever. I'll stick that out there. But the guy who bought it is the guy who founded Rode Microphones, Pete. Oh, nice. Shout out Rode. Shout out Rode. Power up, Stakhanov. Here and there.

Exactly. I was sort of thinking under lockdown, Stakhanov must own a lot of Rode stock. Not actual stocks and shares, just their stock, really, because we've bought a lot of road stock not not actual stocks and shares just their stock really because we've bought a lot of portable equipment but well for those out there who are listening for this kind of chat i mean we split our discipline across morantz neumann and road but road are our time mic of choice yeah shout out to peter friedman uh you know founder of road he's the good thing about it is i don't know anything about peter i'm i'm hoping he's not um problematic because it's becoming yeah he's not he's not the uh it's really hard isn't it it's like uh i i really like dan electro guitars but the bloke who owns that company uh or

certainly did a few years ago has uh some problematic views so right you have a policy of only buying second-hand ones well peter peter friedman has said that he's going to use the guitar um he's going to tour it around australia i believe he's aust said that he's going to use the guitar. He's going to tour it around Australia. I believe he's Australian. He's going to tour it around Australia to help raise awareness for lack of arts funding during the COVID epidemic, and that's why he bought it, he said. Oh, nice.

So hopefully it goes to good use. But it's a brilliant record. It's just my favourite live record. It's not even close. I think it's probably my favourite Nirvana record, but that's more controversial. And I understand people might have some opinions on that. I think it's good because it's kind of, I mean,

obviously one of the songs, one of the, what are they? They sang, what was that Scottish band that they covered? Oh, the Vaselines. They're one of my faves as well. Yeah, the Vaselines. The song he covered was about a character from Jackanory. And there's so many different little stories. And the stories of actually putting that show together

was such a fraught one. He was actually quite an antagonistic, difficult... I mean, obviously he fucking was. And he was a heroin addict and all that stuff. But there was rumours that it wasn't going to happen, and it all kind of came together, and it became this iconic set. You would probably say the most important piece

of broadcasting MTV has ever done, wouldn't you say? It certainly is for me. I always point people... I love Nirvana, obviously, because I'm of that age. To be honest, I didn't really get into them until after Kurt Cobain sadly died because I was like 13 when he died. But they became a huge part

of my musical education as a kid. And I was actually saying this to my wife the other day in the car. I had the Spotify shuffle and a Silverchair song came on. And I said to Mimi, I used to love Silverchair back in the day. And it only really kind of occurred to me fairly recently that all the music i liked well not all the music but a lot of the

music i liked through the mid to late 90s was essentially a hangover from nirvana they were all really sort of um poor nirvana imitations like bush and Silverchair and one or two others. And so they had a really big impact on me. But I always point people in the direction of a book by a guy called Charles Cross called Heavier Than Heaven. I think he was a childhood friend of Cobain. And it's a really forensic, beautifully written biography of Kurt Cobain. It's so revealing and so interesting.

I don't think it's been discredited in the same way that the kind of Brian Wilson one has. So it's well worth a read. It's called Heavier Than Heaven. If you want to know anything about Cobain, his life, his outlook, and his experiences, it's probably as good as you're going to get, I would say. And if anyone else has got a recommendation over and above that,

then by all means, kind of email in. But that, for me, is the definitive one. And that record is – I mean, everything they do is everything the var did was just so good in my opinion chiefly because even if it's not a particularly individual song that you necessarily like it's all done with such feeling and such heart and they mean it and it and that is and that sounds cheesy in today's world but at that point in in time it was really really important to have that and to me it spoke to me a great deal. So, yeah, they're a hugely important part of my upbringing, I would say.

Usually. And the guitar itself, it was an acoustic with like a pickup on it. It wasn't a microphone, was it? It was an actual electric pickup and microphone. Yeah, basically, that album should just be called um as someone said before it should be it shouldn't be called nirvana unplugged in new york it should just be nirvana slightly quieter in new york because everything is plugged in by the sound of it dave grow looks so kind of um uh geeky he's such a goober he's in proper light seeing dave grow without a beard

you sort of forget that what a goober he kind of chap he had. But seeing him use brushes as well kind of really exposed him. He's actually a fucking good drawer. He's a great guy. And also, I was going to say to you that for the one thing, the big poignant thing, apart from the obvious with Nirvana for me, is that after Cobain died, they released that box set with the lights out. And it had an unreleased song on it and the most really the most recent song that navarro recorded before cabane died it's

called you know you're right and it is so good it's like legitimately one of their best songs and you think my goodness me he probably had so much more in his tank like so much more to offer and and so that just makes it especially sad it's sad because a guy died and because he had depression and because he was a father and all those obvious reasons but the idea that he probably had an awful lot more to offer creatively as well makes it even more sad i think um so yeah it's just one of those things but you know the most expensive guitar sold in the history before that was a dave gil Fender Stratocaster, apparently, which fetched $4 million for charity in June of last year. So it beat that one by 50%.

Well, well done money, I suppose. Hopefully it's used for a good cause and it goes to spread awareness around financially struggling artists and how important the art sector is in communities and stuff. I do think there's an element particularly alongside this this political movement that we're currently living through where everyone knows the price of everything but the value of nothing and arts funding is really important for lots of different reasons so if it can go towards that then then great indeed well we're going to take a short break we'll be back with uh some of your emails if that's all with you

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Abroad in Japan is a Sukarno production. And we're back with emails. And they've been flying in, Luke. Even in between all of the stupid spam emails we get from people. Thank you very much. Still annoyed by that, are you? A little bit, yeah, because I've got to sift through, as do you. Hello to Daniel.

Daniel Davis. Hello. He says, not about Japan per se, but I thought you might be interested in the fact that for a long period, glass making technology was a closely guarded secret in Venice. Glassblowers were in fact treated almost as aristocracy because so much of the economy depended on

their skills. On the flip side of this, they could not leave Venice because their recipes were so secret. And there are cases of family members being held hostage by the city if any glassblower did actually leave on a trip or try and make a run for it. The implication being, tell a secret your family will pay the price um it's also it was also very common for the glassblowers who also made mirrors to go insane from mercury poisoning uh i don't know whether this is uh directly connected to japanese glass but it does show

something about the complexities of the process in. Obviously, the secret did get out. The Venetian economy collapsed and the special glass of the region spread around Europe. Another tale, an interesting tale from the fascinating world of glass. Dan Davis in Lisbon. Thank you very much. Sent from a Huawei mobile, obviously, presumably, containing some kind of gorilla glass on the front of it.

Yeah, that's another reason. That story, there's another reason why Pete is firmly in the Brexit camp. Why? What? You shouldn't allow our valuable glass. Close off the different borders and keep the ideas to ourselves. Keep the glass in England. Nothing good has ever happened for the good conscious sharing of information.

Yeah, I'd agree with that. Mate, you mentioned that um you mentioned i'm joking of course you mentioned that um people can email in as we say every show on hello at luke and peter.com but our twitter is at luke and pete show and the reason i say that is because i saw something on twitter uh earlier this week which made me laugh and i wondered if the people would have other stories around there around it uh of a similar of a similar bent so i don't know about you people i've never been the member of a golf club of you no i've never swung a golf club in anger actually i tell a lie i have uh in an urban golf competition that i came

last in um i don't really understand it i had fantasies about um turning up at a golf club and being this prodigious talent that had um hitherto been undiscovered but I think we all know that's not the case so no I've never been a member of a golf club and this is a great bit of Luke and Pete folklore which I don't think we've mentioned on this show before is I you talk about swinging a golf club at an urban golf competition and coming last I was reading a book about golf once called bring with the head of sergio garcia about a guy who had regrets about not being a pro golfer because he was really good and at the age of about 30 he goes back into it again and and the final act involves him taking part in this conversation

sorry this competition of urban golf he's been invited along and he um he ends it by saying i didn't win it whatever but at least i finished so many so and so shots above xfm's cheek invited along and he um he ends it by saying i didn't win it whatever but at least i finished so many so and so shots above xfm's cheeky pete and i was like how is he in this book why is pete now invading the books i'm reading um so your your legacy on the golfing front is secured by that alone pete but anyway so my my um my granddad was a member of a golf club um i spent a bit of time uh visiting and playing golf with him but i was never a member of a golf club. I spent a bit of time visiting and playing golf with him, but I was never a member. I never really got to know it intimately,

and a lot of my friends are members, but I don't really get involved. But my impression of golf clubs is exactly how these two people I saw on Twitter tweeted, and it just made me laugh. I don't know them. I don't know either of them, but it's something I saw on Twitter tweeted, and it just made me laugh. I don't know them. I don't know either of them, but it's something I saw on Twitter. First guy, Michael, says, The year is 2020, and I've just been reminded as a golf club

that I should be wearing white ankle socks and not black ankle socks. Incidentally, knee-length socks can be any color but white. The pro kindly let me off this time, but golf clubs don't help themselves. And this guy called Jack Reeve replied saying, I was made to go to the pro shop at Thetford Golf Course in a junior open when I was 14 to purchase new socks as mine were a few millimetres below the ankle. I just love it.

I just love that there are people at golf clubs who think this stuff is important. There must be loads of our listeners out there who've had a similar experience. I hope there are people at golf clubs who think this stuff is important. There must be loads of our listeners out there who've had a similar experience. I hope there are. Yeah. I mean, you talk about the big stuff, like women and black people

not being allowed in golf clubs up until quite recently, to be quite frank. And obviously the people, the dodgy people who own the golf clubs, like the president of America, et cetera. Like, but ankle socks why is anybody policing the ankle socks it's proper partridge isn't it the uh that's the thing what's happened little man in the jeans little man in the jeans yeah yeah there's a chap of about five

the the the the laws have been uh kind of decided a long time ago and it does actually really speak to the mentality of certain human beings because they've just been told, that's the rule book, you've got to enforce it, and they'll just blindly do it. And at no point do they stop to think, hang on, at the end of the day, it's just a pair of socks, isn't it? I mean, it doesn't really matter. No one's really going to care.

I understand the rule like don't wear your golf shoes in the bar because you're going to scuff up the carpet or you're going to get mud on stuff and that was the same at the football clubs i was players or player of like you had to take your boots off before you got into the showers and get and got into the club and all that kind of stuff i get all that but like certain types of socks to me it's such a they know when people say that the brits are the kind of the um the kind of administrators of the world it just really speaks to that doesn't it yeah and and also I it sort of takes me back to a question we get asked quite a lot on the Stakhanov show uh abroad in Japan plugging a lot of other Stakhanov shows at the moment but uh we get asked every single week about um tattoos and onsens you know those hot

spring kind of baths you go in you jump in the hot bath and you're in the cold bath where that kid waved his willy in your face that Chinese child uh waved his willy in my face that's correct yes uh don't want to talk about that um i've already talked about that but uh yeah um the rules are no tattoos but there is a cultural reason for that because the only people who had tattoos were um criminals it's changing things are getting a little bit more um loose if you're clearly not a member of the yakuza like i'm fairly certain that i'm not um the the people who sort of do these very very harsh that's exactly what i would say and nobody look at my little finger is that true by the way the little finger thing yeah yeah if you do something wrong it's uh it's not a myth you get a little

finger and then there's guys who create or you certainly used to create um fake little fingers for you um and you'd put a different one on every season to match the tanning like because you because your hands get tanned in the summer doesn't it don't they so i just i just like the idea of you becoming like a yakuza or being like mentioned about doing it or applying or whatever you ever do and they take you through what happened and you go yeah that's fine yeah and by the way we um we work these hours and you're gonna be asked to do this and and then uh if you do something wrong and we just chuck your finger off and and what hang on let's go back to that bit again because that sounds a bit much to be honest i think knowing what i'm like i'd probably just chisel off before i even applied okay look i'll fuck it up so but

i've already done it so just just take that as red i don't have a thought i don't know i've taken off a thumb and half a forefinger is that all right that that's about my level okay i've got a finger missing no it's in my pocket anyway carry on what you were saying so yeah culturally like it's changing because people are more and more because when i was a kid growing in Portsmouth, it was only really sailors and criminals that had tattoos, really. And now everyone's gone. And bus drivers. Yeah.

Armed forces people. A lot of bus drivers are kind of... I mean, my granddad's got a tattoo on his arm, but he got that when he was in the army and then he became a bus driver, so it does kind of fit. Yeah. My dad's got a couple of... I think he's got one of my mom and one of pisces um and

and they're they're i think they're holding up all right to be honest they're in the exact same place that i've got my tattoos on the old calves so um but that's all he's really got he does as i've said before he does wear a bone that was removed from his foot around his neck so he's well hang on a minute you've never told us that i've told you about this no you haven't there's no one out there tell the story he had to yeah i'm trying to think of like weird things but like yeah he's pretty normal on the tattoo front two tattoos but then when he got a bone taken out of his ankle uh about 20 years ago he got it made into like he just basically drilled a hole through it and he wears it as a necklace.

Let him keep it. Yeah, yeah. I think they gave him it in a little jar, but he took it out of the jar. Who did it? The Doctor of Red Dead Redemption? It was a Victorian barber surgeon who did it. Yeah.

So listen, Peter, I'm fairly certain and listeners will correct me if I'm wrong, you have never told me that before. I think I would have done because you love stories about my dad being weird. But I would have remembered that. That would be a thing. That's great news.

I think it's interesting. It's a bit What does your mum think about it? Who took the years off? What does Christine think about it who took the years off who took the years off yeah what does christine think about it um she yeah she was she wasn't as into it because it was it was black it had gone rotten because it was you know it was it was it was a piece of bone that wasn't attached to anything and that's why i was rattling around his foot and giving him terrible jip so it was uh yeah it was absolutely um yeah as dark as

anything so so yeah he's got this kind of black lump it almost looks like rock around his neck so yeah and does he always wear it yeah yeah it never it never comes off i started wearing a necklace about sort of december time a loved one gave me it and um i've not taken it off i'm i'm i'm loving the necklace life guys same as Same as me. It's not a crisis. I like it. My wife got me a necklace with Apollo on it and I wear that now. Yeah, I like it. But can I just say, Peter...

I've never worn jewelry before, really. Just quickly, something that's going to play on my mind otherwise, that it's in Predator, he keeps the skulls, but it's Universal Soldier where the guy keeps the ears. Yeah.

That is based on a lot of rumors around what a lot of soldiers were doing in vietnam and in fact i'm fairly certain that um when as a soldier so a member of the services fighting in vietnam when you came back after your tour had finished you weren't allowed to bring anything back at all um because i did nothing because people were basically yeah taking the piss and doing some pretty horrific stuff so um yeah i think it is based it does sadly does have some kind of um basis in truth but um listen an ankle bone what's an ankle bone if it's your own ankle bone fine fill your boots yeah with the space you've got because you've got no ankle bone if it's so much yeah i wonder what's in there it's

just a big gap um isn't that how like harDavidson got its start? Because everyone took their motorbikes home from the Second World War. And then nobody wants to buy Harley-Davidson's anymore. So they're in a bit of a weird kind of marketing position. But I think that's why Harley-Davidson kind of got its start because all of the servicemen got their motorbikes, their service motorbikes cheap. And it kind of built a brand a little bit. Well, they certainly did build motorcycles

for the Americans in World War II. I know that, but I don't know any more than that. It's possible. Maybe people could let us know. Pete, should we wrap up? Because we're running out of time now. I know, again. Hello at LukeandPeteShow.com is the place to email in.

Tell us about your golf club stories. Tell us about a family member that wears one of his own bones around his neck on a chain, if you like. Love to hear about that. I told you my granddad, my granddad's bus conductor

was the guy who went on to play the bad guy in the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie, The Running Man. So there's a little link for you there. And that's obviously the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie in Predator.

So there you go. The circle is complete. We'll be back on Monday for more of this. Hello at LukeandPeteShow.com, at LukeandPeteShow on Twitter. We'll be telling you all about what we got up to at the weekend next week. And we'll speak to you very, very soon. So goodbye, Pete Donaldson.

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