The Luke and Pete Show - Why do these kids look like ostriches?

Episode Date: January 24, 2022

It’s Monday, on today’s show Pete is very upset after hearing Logan Paul has been having issues with his rare Pokémon cards. Before we know it we're discussing deep state conspiracies and QAnon, obviously. Luke then brings us back down to earth by telling us about ostriches that escaped from a zoo and in the emails we discuss acceptable bus etiquette.Do you need us to solve any other social dilemmas? Let us know, email: [e-mail] or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow. Feel free to give us a follow while you're there Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As your father. because we are here for you. It's on demand, isn't it? On demand. Do people still say on demand? I like when they say VOD, video on demand. We used to talk about VOD quite a lot when I worked at Sky. That was like the buzz phrase. Right. I mean, that's just everything now, isn't it?

Everything's on demand. Yeah, I don't think you need to say it anymore. There's very few live channels anymore. What's new with you, Peter? Oh, Luke, I'm gutted. I'm gutted for one of the most moneyed YouTubers in town. Oh, who?

Logan Paul. He's a boxer now, isn't he? Or is that his brother? I can forget. Jake Paul's a boxer, I think. Logan did do a bit of boxing, but I think it's all Jake's thing now. It's all Jake's thing now, right, okay.

Logan Paul has... He's fought in the boxing ring, hasn't he? Yeah, he fought to start with it. Jake Paul's the younger guy, isn't he? That's right, yeah. Both obnoxious. Both obnoxious. Both obnoxious. So, he bought a lot of Pokemon cards.

Now, are you familiar with Pokemon cards? Kind of. In as much as anyone can be? I'm familiar with Pokemon. Yeah. Was the cards just like a trading thing, is it? Yeah. Like Pro Set cards back in the day.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And these are very much vintage cards from back in the day. What era are we talking about? 80s? 90s? It's got to be 90s, late 90s, surely, hasn't it? Right, right. So the YouTube star has been a collector of the cards,

and I think his brother is kind of into it as well, really. But he caused a lot of problems, I think, one of the polls. He made a resin table, which looked like a piece of shit when he finished. But he basically buried all of it. What, old dig? Piece of shit resin table. Can't do DIY, that guy. Piece of shit when he finished. But he basically buried all of it. What, Ozdig? Piece of shit, Resident Evil.

Can't do DIY, that guy. Piece of shit, Resident Evil. He's got all of the funds, all of the resources in the world. How wealthy do you reckon he is? Yeah, he'll be pretty minted. It's like rock star money, like proper rock star money. But he got a load of Game Boys, vintage Game Boys, and put them all in a row.

You know what you see on on facebook marketplace or etsy people take apart these iconic bits of machinery like an ipod or a fucking game boy advance or whatever and they sort of stick it on a wall they make it literally unable to use it to be used anymore and they put it on a wall but this this this guy he put um put one of the poles put five or six um game Boys on a desk, filled a vessel with resin, and basically encased these Game Boys in resin. And the effect was underwhelming, massively underwhelming.

Why did he do it? To upset a load of people who really like Game Boys. So he's basically just trolling, right? No, he's just sort of saying, look what I've created. But you're not really creating anything. You've just made it hard for someone to play a vintage game. So what's he done now? He's bought a lot of Pokemon cards.

Well, Logan Paul has bought a lot of Pokemon cards. Big Pokemon card guy. And he traveled to Chicago to have this box, this sealed box of Pokemon cards checked for authenticity. Much like I got my trainers checked by eBay's authenticity people. A company called BBCE checked

for a second time and he discovered they were fake. He opened the box of collectibles and it was just full of, I think, G.I. Joe cards. How much did he pay for it? $3.5 million. $3.5 million dollars 3.5 That's why I'm scared of eBay

Million dollars I told you on Thursday I'm scared of eBay Why? I just don't trust anything about it What do you mean? I just think When it

Before it kind of rehabilitated itself To be actually a place Where you can sell shit Yeah Legitimately It used to be a bit Like the wild west Yeah

I was just I told you I bought that Lego Home Alone house Yes For my family for Christmas And you were going to be counterfeit. It was fine. It turned out perfect.

Lego's so expensive. I know, it's mad. And presumably easy to make. Why isn't there more counterfeit Legos kicking around? There probably is. Probably a real issue. Very generous supporters of this show, Pete. I know.

To be fair to them. Imagine our next sponsor, fake Lego. It's a bit cheaper and looks shit. No, but you're right. It is dear. Lego. It's a bit cheaper and looks shit. No, but you're right. It is dear. So what had happened was that Lego Home Alone house was really popular

and it just got snapped up, right? I guess they were going to make a snap out of them and it got snapped up. And what I did is I went onto the Lego website, couldn't find it and they have this service

where they say, put your email address in so that it comes back and stop will let you know. Fine, so we did that. It was becoming clear that I wasn't going to get one before Christmas.

I really wanted one for my niece. She loves Home Alone and the family would really enjoy building it with her. And so I ended up going on eBay where they had loads of them for sale. And I just thought, okay, I might...

Scalpers. Yeah, they are. I'll just risk it. So what I had to do was pay like a 50 quid, what's it called, premium to get it. And they made 50 quid

and that's their thing. Look, we can have our own discussions about that. It's essentially just capitalism, I suppose. But it turned up perfectly in order. It was prompt. It was great. And I couldn't relax until it turned up. But you could just check the seller's rating.

I was going, look at this. What do you think? As long as it's over 10, if they're usually good, you usually get away with it. But I started to build my confidence with things like eBay. Right. And then you tell me a story

about someone dropping three and a half million dollars on something that's not real. Are you realistically going to be dropping three and a half million on it? I'd like to be in the position to be able to do that. But I doubt it.

But the Pokemon community who are obsessed with this kind of tedious wank, they, as soon as he showed the box, they were like, this sounds iffy. This looks iffy. They didn't trust the people who he bought it off. I think the person who they bought it off in the end refunded Paul the 3.5 million.

He got his money back. He got his money back, but then he needs to be made right by the people he bought it off. And they were mistrusted by the pokemon community in the first instance so it's just there is a uh again we talked about um uh the entire of the western world just kind of crumbling it it does make me feel a little bit uneasy about the whole thing where you've got um retro video games you know your super marios and stuff like that these original box copies that are worth a certain amount of money, they're suddenly going for half a million pounds, right?

And they were never worth that before. And you get the feeling that there's a lot of fraudulent retro stuff going on. There's a lot of dodgy stuff, dodgy valuing of the market. I fully agree that, and I don't know enough about this particular area to know whether this is a symptom of it. You would know more about it than me. But I fully feel like we are living through the first chapter in the story of the collapse of the currency.

But I think it's kind of like collectors and kind of retro collectors. They're the same people who have invested in crypto and NFT and stuff like that. And I get the feeling that they are expecting a much bigger return on their investment of time. And unless they get their 10 times what they put in or their 100 times what they put in, they're not really interested. So there's a lot of people. And that's never been what investing's been.

No. Investing's never really been about margins that high. It's been about scale. It's been about scale and a 1% here and a 2% here. It always has been. Buffett's not looking for a 1,000% return in a year. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, no, exactly.

That's not what it's been all about. It's been about patient, kind of sensible decisions, right? And another example would probably be that thing you sent me the other day about that Dune book. Yes.

Where these guys paid two and a half million for a copy of Dune because they thought it would get them the copyright and they were going to NFT the pages and whatnot. So I think it was a copy,

so it was a, so it was a book that was created, it was HR Geeks that was involved, It was HR Geeks involved, the writer. I can't remember the writer of Dune. Frank Herbert? Frank Herbert, yeah. And a couple of other people.

And they were kind of all involved in. And I think it was a diagram of the original film or something. Basically, it was this guide to how to make a film about Dune. And there was only 10 or 11 copies made, or maybe a little bit more. So it was super, super valuable. It got digitized a couple of years ago in almost complete form.

So you could read it if you wanted to really read it. And Dune weirdly has ridiculous amounts of weird fans. Oh yeah, it's really popular. It's a big part of the culture. And so this book was so incredibly valuable. Now these crypto bros have decided to buy a copy of this book. And they seemed to think that by buying a copy of this book, a snapshot in time,

They would own it. They would own the residual rights to the ip of june even though that's just not the case it's quite a basic error if you don't mind me saying it's a very basic error and then i think they're trying to sort of pedal back a little bit and sort of listen we knew that uh we didn't have the rights to create you know an anime based on it to sell to netflix or whatever we knew we didn't have the rights, but we were going to make something a little bit different to it.

Like, well, just do that anyway. You'd have to pay. And they paid like 2.5 million. But then people are sort of saying that this amount of money has been inflated and it just all sounds, this whole thing just sounds a little bit fraudulent,

a little bit strange. My issue with the whole thing is that like, it feels like one, not many people understand the processes here and two huge amounts of money have been exchanged despite that and it's all very opaque and all very confusing for a lot of people and that might be because i'm old but a lot of stuff happening in in the west where someone much cleverer than me will be able to knit it all together. And it'll be things like the capital riot in January of last year,

that linked through to essentially online culture, of which this is also a part of. Almost like an undercurrent of what to me feels like anarchy being fueled by online behavior. So if you, because if you try, I'm reaching a little bit here because I don't really know an awful lot anarchy being fueled by online behavior. I'm reaching a little bit here because I don't really know an awful lot about the crypto culture and NFTs and stuff, apart from what we

learned a week or two ago. But if you look at how the capital riots happened, it's directly traceable through things like 4chan, 8chan, QAnon, all that kind of stuff. It's essentially like cosplay,

LARPing, but in the real world, in real time. And I find it's quite terrifying, really, because the people who are QAnon, for example, it's easy for general members of the public,

like you and I, or people who consider themselves to be ultra-Western liberals or whatever, European liberals, to write those people off as crazy. Oh, it's just a symptom of them, whatever. They're not crazy. They're otherwise quite very, very normal people.

Listening to Donald Trump's latest speech, I don't know why, I mean, he's on the campaign trail effectively even this early. Yes, yes. It's on the campaign trail effectively even this early yes and it's because the midterms are in November

yeah I kind of forgot that I kind of forgot I listened to it and I was like good god I mean like I've not missed that

I've not missed his how relaxing is it black people are getting more vaccines than white people you know I've not missed his particular brand of unhinged,

because I don't really lift the rock up that much with QAnon and all that business. Every now and again, you'll hear that there was a man at that speech who genuinely believed that Donald Trump, that John F. Kennedy was at the speech dressed as Donald Trump. It was very weird. But this guy was a senator, I believe. Some of the

QAnon conspiracies are around a lot of things that JFK didn't actually die and he was actually helping Trump on the campaign. But the issue is, though, that people who buy into all that kind of stuff, I think the worrying thing is if you went at a QAnon or a Trump rally and you met them in the street,

you probably wouldn't know. If that subject didn in the street, you probably wouldn't know. If that subject didn't come up, you probably wouldn't know. And that's uncomfortable for people because they think it's easy to write them off. Yeah. But actually, there's a huge amount of them. A huge amount of them.

It's crazy. There's a really good podcast series about it called The Coming Storm, presented by Gabriel Gatehouse on BBC Sounds. So once you finish listening to this and all the other stack shows, you must do that. That's one of the rules about it. Do you find BBC Sounds, the app you finish listening to this and all the other stack shows, you must do that. That's one of the rules about it.

Do you find BBC Sounds, the app, quite difficult to navigate? Like, you type something in and you want, and it's in there, but it just doesn't come up as a search key.

It's not as bad as the Apple one. Yeah, I mean, they're all pretty shoddy, I guess. I find Gmail search crap. Right, okay. Try and search for an email in Gmail. And they say this thing about

how there's no point finding, getting folders or labels. The reason they fucking, the reason they deprioritize on Gmail and they say this thing about how there's no point finding getting folders or labels the reason they fucking the reason they deprioritize on Gmail like folders into quote labels

is because they said actually you're better off just having one big inbox and just using our search function our search function's brilliant I search by I search by

dit or unique word a lot of the time otherwise it doesn't fucking work anyway anyway Peter for those who kind of I wonder if the chat we've just had about that kind of stuff is a bit esoteric a lot of the time. Otherwise it doesn't fucking work. Anyway, anyway, Peter,

for those who kind of, I wonder if the chat we've just had about that kind of stuff is a bit esoteric. So let me bring it back down to earth and let you know that in China

last week, China, China, China, China, Puerto Rico, China, Puerto Rico.

We don't talk enough about him being camp. He's very camp. It's really camp, isn't it? And I find that interesting as well, because the disconnect is so apparent with people who seem, they do the old facts don't care about your feelings, bro. Yeah.

You know, fuck you kind of thing. Fuck you and your feelings. Yet they also are really happy to carry around. They're basically kind of positioned themselves as really big alpha males. And then they carry around a flag with another man's name on it and wear a red hat and not

and not acknowledge the fact that he is the campest man in the world and Puerto Rico China

China China anyway in China in China China 80 ostriches escaped from a zoo come on

ran through were seen running through the streets of a neighbouring town. And it is... Amazing. It's incredible. It just looks like any sort of... It just looks like any sort of city scene out there. A lot of neon lights.

Now they seem to be going down about it. And their legs look so pink. They look like human legs. Do you know what it reminds me of? You know you watch those... I'm an absolute sucker for these programs, possibly because I'm a snob.

I hope not. I like to think it's because I'm interested in just human beings generally. But those kind of club reps type shows. Oh, right, yeah. You know, where they follow

a load of club reps on a season in Majorca or whatever and all the stuff they get up to. And there's a series that came out recently called it's about Zante

because you know all the kids are all about Zante now so Zante is the place Zante is the Ibiza of this generation so they all go to Zante and there was a show

on Channel 4 a three part doc it's actually really interesting but you always see groups of boys and groups of girls get on these pub crawls.

It massively looks like there's ostriches. Because they're all together. They look like ostriches by their nature because they've got naked necks and legs and they've got hardly any clothes on. It looks like they're on a big pub crawl and they're running to the next one to do some kind of challenge. Get him on one of those little cycles.

You know, those bike pubs. Oh, bike bars, yeah. You see them more and more in London, which upsets me slightly. Don't need that in our lives. It feels to me like it should be a German thing. It's very European, isn't it? Or those ones that go up really high. Is it a balloon?

Yeah, it's a balloon. It's like a hot air balloon. Oh, you sit on it in the bar. You sit on it and it floats around and you have a drink or whatever. Your worst nightmare? What do you mean? Can't go anywhere else. Can't go anywhere else.

You can't go to the next bar because you are 300 feet in the air. Can you get just at least to play pulp on the speaker? But Donny, do you know what's interesting about this?

There's a really very palpable difference isn't there between having a few beers out on a Friday night in London, having a few beers out on a Friday night in a small town in England and having a few beers out on a Friday night in London, having a few beers out on a Friday night in a small town in England,

and having a few beers out in a European city. Yeah. What do you mean? You just drink two? Three very different things. Yeah. Okay. London's very kind of different to being out somewhere else

outside of London in England, but it's also still quite overbearing and kind of regulated. Yeah. Whereas in Europe, it does feel a little bit more like, just chill out. Just put that chair on that iced over canal, have a beer. Yeah. What time does it close?

We don't close. We don't close. And you can have some frites if you want. Yeah. Everywhere sells frites. And if they don't, you just ask someone, yeah, we'll sort you out a pizza or something. Find you something.

A lot of the attitude towards booze and in London and in England is because people at the back of their mind know that shit's going to close early yeah so they've got to

pack as much as they can European when we were in Kiev at 6am a new shift of people just came in they weren't closing

yeah that's your weekend someone did a quick mop up sweep up mop up new shift in right what are you having

it's dangerous obviously but it's different if you know how to stop mop up, sweep up, mop up, new shift in. Right, what are you having? It's dangerous, obviously, but it's different. Well, if you know how to stop, you can just stop, can't you? But it just means that alcoholics can drink with other people. Yeah. Which is nice. And that's all you're after. Makes you less likely to end up on the fringes of society. And you're far less likely to have to drink on your own.

Anyway, let's have a break. When we come back, we'll do some emails. I want to talk a bit about Hell's Angels as well, after the email we had on thursday from our friend in eastney about the biker pub so uh don't go anywhere stick around after the break we'll be back with some of that clash of the titles is the podcast where two movies with something in common go head to head in a fight to the death as we decide which film does it better and for the whole of january and february we're taking film suggestions from you our listeners but he said to me i was putting on and because we've done the social network and he's like why are you doing

all these good films and i said oh well you know and then i still admit that other people pick them not. Wow. Yeah. Join me, Alex Zane, with Chris Tilley and Vicky Crompton every Monday and Thursday. Search Clash of the Titles wherever you get your pods. We're back with the Luke and Pete show. My name is Pete. That guy is Luke. And every single afternoon, evening, morning, whenever you might be listening to this show, we do our thing.

And we do it hard. Absolutely. Until it's down to the bone. How hard would you say we do it? It depends on what week it is, I think. Pre-Christmas we were doing it hard because we had to do a lot of shows. January's been a little later, which is good. We're both very busy. So yeah, I've enjoyed it. I'm enjoying

it. I agree. So before we get into emails, hello at LukeandPeteShow.com and get through some that our friends have already sent in, I wanted to talk a bit about Hells Angels. And I'll tell you why. On Thursday, our friend in Eastney, whose name escapes me, Kia, he had an experience with some bikers

in a pub, and it was quite a funny story. If you haven't heard that, go back and listen to it. But it got me thinking about the Hells Angels and I forgot to say that I was doing some reading for something else doing some research into something a while back and I stumbled upon

the history of the Hells Angels and I knew nothing I didn't know this and I'm sure it's a pretty underserved you know tale so I thought I'd share it with you

about how the Hells Angels were formed and the reason I know about this is because I was doing some research into what we talked about earlier about the January 6th thing and all the kind of Trumpism and all that rest of it. Where to buy speed. Well, that definitely comes into it.

But the Hells Angels were actually formed by a load of World War II veterans in about 1947, 1948. Oh, they came back with their bikes. You could buy your own bike, couldn't you? No, there's nothing to do with that. No? Okay, cool. But it does come into it their bikes. You could get by on a bike, couldn't you? No, nothing to do with that. No? Okay, cool. But it does come into it in a way.

Okay. Bear with me. So it originally started off being called the Pissed Off Bastards Motorcycle Club because a lot of these World War II veterans had come back from wherever they were fighting and had been lauded for all the things they had done. But they got to a point, particularly the ones who didn't take advantage of the GI Bill,

which was passed around that time saying that anyone who served in the military for the U S can go to university for free. And people still take advantage of that. Now the people who didn't have that available to them and didn't take advantage of that. And the people who still found themselves in the same socioeconomic position they found before the war, but they were now quote heroes because of what they'd done. They started to get really pissed off because they felt like they weren't being valued

that jobs were moving all that usual stuff about people of social economic disadvantage there was a huge amount of economic prosperity in America around that time

but these people didn't feel a part of it so there's a lot of similarities between what people perceive as happening now per se what they did

is they started this biker gang to show how annoyed they were and the reason that the motorcycles come into it because they're all motorcyclists they all rode harley davidson's as a statement of um defiance behind towards the fact that all these japanese bikes which were objectively better motorbikes yeah flooding the US market after what had happened between the US and Japan. And that's why Harley-Davidson

is synonymous with Hells Angels and that's where they all come from. That's where they start from. So it's quite an interesting way to consider them as a kind of social phenomenon in the United States. That's how they came out of, that's how they came into existence.

I just thought that was interesting. Yeah. And it wasn't the Harley-Davidson things that, did they came into existence. I just thought that was interesting. Yeah, and wasn't the Harley Davidson things that did they drive Harley Davidsons in the war or something? Wasn't there a lot of Harley Davidsons kicking around? Maybe Harley Davidson made the motorbikes for the US military or something. And you would bring your bike back

in bits and stuff and then reassemble it on American shores. So that still happens now. I think if you serve overseas in the US military, you get all your stuff sent back. Right. So my brother-in-law still got like a European car that the US paid for him to ship back from when he was serving in

Germany. I see right. Interesting. I think that still happens. But anyway one of the things that reminded me of it as well is

I watched a show I watched a documentary the other night on Sky Arts called Crossfire Hurricane. It's one of the stories about the Rolling Stones and

all the stuff that happened at Altamont with the Hells Angels where they it was a complete I mean people call it culturally the end of the 60s. You had Woodstock then you had Altamont with the Hells Angels. Okay. Where they, it was a complete, I mean, people call it culturally the end of the 60s. Because you had Woodstock, then you had Altamont on the West Coast. And it was completely unregulated, unpoliced.

And I think the Rolling Stones or someone associated with the Rolling Stones agreed to let the Hells Angels, quote, police it. And the whole shit, it just went to shit. And someone got killed, someone got stabbed to death. The Stones were in a position. If you watch the footage, it's crazy. It's like 300,000 people watch the footage, it's crazy.

There's like 300,000 people there. They know it's all gone wrong, but they also know that they can't stop playing because it'll make it worse. So they've got to give this performance because if they don't give a brilliant performance, people are just going to be

even more pissed off. But obviously, someone's just been killed. It's a crazy time. 68, 69 around, there's a crazy time in America. So well worth checking out if you get a second. Anyway, helloatlukeandpetech.com is the email address. Pete, 69 around there. It's a crazy time in America. So well worth checking out if you get a second.

Anyway, helloatlukeandpetech.com is the email address. Pete, I believe you have an email for us. I do. Kyle Watson. Hi, Kyle. He wants to talk about a bus etiquette. Okay. On his communion commute.

Chaps are in need of a second and third opinion on whether a social faux pas has been committed or not. The facts are as follows. My morning commute takes me to the Lake District from Barrow to Kendal. What a commute. That has got to be. So we talked about the longest commutes on the show before.

The most beautiful. That's got to be the most beautiful commute I can think of, actually. What an amazing... I mean, how long does that take, by the way? I don't remember. That's an hour, apparently. I just checked.

My morning commute takes me through the Lake District from Barrow to Kendal. About five minutes after I get on the bus, there's a fairly large bus stop and a colossal bus-filling number of students get on. They are dropped off at a college 20 minutes down the road before the bus continues another hour onto Grange and eventually Kendal.

Imagine that, Pete, all those students getting on. Giffing their TikToks. Giffing their TikToks. Making their noise. With their little speakers, listening to Stormzy. Throwing their Hubba bubba around. On the morning question, all started well. The students packed up the bus as per usual,

and I was sat in my familiar top deck window seat. At the very next stop, a clear newcomer to the bus route enters the game. Ooh, newcomer. How did you know? They walk upstairs and are visibly taken aback by the swirly students before them. They choose to sit in the seat directly next to me in order to avoid sitting awkwardly next to a loud and chatty student. Completely fair enough.

When the bus reaches the college, the students unload, as usual, from the bus, presumably. Shouting or pissing. Leaving me and my new stranger the only two people on the top deck. They don't move. For the next hour, they remain in the seat directly next to me with no other passengers choosing to come upstairs at any point. This left me uncomfortable to the point where I couldn't even casually browse my phone

for a fear of a potential over-the-shoulder read from my new best mate. My question is, should they have had the awareness to move away or am I getting all worked up about absolutely nothing Kyle? For me, Luke, I think I sit in, I'm a real fence sitter on this one, to be honest, because you don't want to, before COVID, I sort of think you don't want people to, I wouldn't move away because I would hate this

for the people to think that I, you know, didn't, that I found their company objectionable. Yeah. But during COVID, like you have to, you have to, haven't you? Well, yeah, I think, first of all, they've not asked for your company.

This is not a social event. This speaks to the very difference, I think, the very core difference between you and I. You get up, announce that you are moving. I'm just,

there's lots of room on this bus. I'm going to go over here. But I'm still going to talk at you. No, I wouldn't talk at them. I think, I think with COVID, that complicates it because really

it's a COVID complication. They should be following the protocol, right? And keeping distance whenever they can. And if they couldn't before, fair enough, but now they can

so they should. The social aspect of it, I think for me you've got to move. Yeah. I agree. And look, what you've done there

is given a caricature of me which is fine but what I think I would actually do is say, I'll just give you a bit of space and move. And if they had headphones, I just wouldn't say anything.

On the tube into the office, if you, so this is a boring London-centric point, but Pete, just for the sake of conversation, Victoria to Oxford Circus is Rammo, right? Two stops,

Victoria, Green Park, Oxford Circus. Those two stops, it's Rammo's. I get on at Victoria, so I'll just get on wherever I can. And if I can get a seat, I'll get one. Yeah. You get to Green Park Oxford Circus those two stops it's rammers I get on at Victoria so I'll just get on wherever I can and if I can get a seat I'll get one

you get to Green Park some people get off so you can get a seat if I'm sat next to loads of people Oxford Circus 90% of people get off if I'm then sat

next to someone who's not got off I will instantly move instantly because otherwise you're just causing yourself grief and causing that other

person grief because you've not got the space you need and in London no one gives a shit because not got the space you need and in London no one gives a shit because no one talks to anyone anyway so in London

in that situation on the tube would you move yes and you wouldn't say anything I wouldn't say anything it's the tube tube's different though

isn't it tube's different it's the same principle tube's different I'm with Carl I'm not offensive on this all day long but here's one for you though

here's the crux of the question if you're in Carl's position do you ask the guy to the crux of the question. If you're in Carl's position, do you ask the guy to move or do you move yourself even though you're on the inside seat? Oh, that's a good point actually, yeah. No, I'd stay. I'd stay.

If I were at the window seat, I'd stay. What you would probably do is look at some really objectionable contacts on the fire until they move. Mmm, this is good. This is all good stuff.

Munch, munch, munch. If I was on the inside seat I probably would say excuse me and I would get out and I'd go sit somewhere else yeah I think that's fair is that awkward though

you said you wouldn't do that because you'd be awkward I'm awkward whatever I do it doesn't really matter exactly so you should just set fire to the whole thing

it's going to be awkward anyway great conundrum for us maybe people listening have got their own ideas. I mean hello Luke and Peach dot com if you can think of a

tactic for Kyle because this might happen again for all we know. True. And it sounds to me

like on a commute of that quality you probably want a window seat as well. That's true

as well. Yeah. Completely agree. Do you think Kyle gets blasé about the commute the same way we get

blasé about walking past Buckingham Palace or whatever? Because we lived in London for

so long yeah he probably does to be honest but I hope it's a double decker yeah I think he said he said it

top deck window seat he says that beautiful what a commute I imagine it has its disadvantages but well it's an hour

and five minutes to drive it in a car so with a bus it's going to be an hour and a half minimum so I mean it's a long old hop

I wonder what job he does car there's so many questions yeah follow up with us let me know and people who've got their own opinions around what they should be done their own tactics hello

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