The Luke and Pete Show - Y-Front Nation

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

Scandal rocks the studio as Pete catches Luke doing the unthinkable: eating a snack on air. Things spiral further when Luke takes a swing at pronouncing pain au raisin, leading to a passionate post-Brexit rant about why all baked goods should come with an English translation.Then, in a shocking turn of events, Pete reveals he’s started wearing Y-fronts unironically… a fact Luke finds deeply unsettling. We also hear about Luke’s teenage BMX-building era, question whether amateur cyclists really need all that Lycra, and debate whether tall people are just naturally more trustworthy.Email us at [e-mail] or you can get in touch on X, Threads or Instagram if character-restricted messaging takes your fancy.Fill out our survey here to have a chance at winning a PS5!***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Welcome to the Luke and Pete Show. I'm Pete Donaldson, I'm joined by Mr. Lukimo. Lukimo, how the devil are you my friend? I'm pretty good thank you Peter. It's really nice to hear from you. Still not in trouble? Yeah, trying to. You know how it is. I've heard you've tried to take over a small country in the Pacific.

That's true, actually. That is true. You said you were thirsty for conquest, you said, as you flew in. I look at you, every time I look at you, I get thirsty for conquest. Exactly. Ha ha ha, conquest nice is it my

blue Primark top that Marcus just fingered well yes from Primark are you munching on a little M&M I just spotted you having a little munch there and I and you have told me on more than one occasion I'm not allowed to eat an entire curry during a broadcast it was actually you know what it. It was actually a leftover chocolate chip from the muffin I had. Oh, the muffin man is back. I'll just snaffle that. Yeah. Waste not want not. Do you like those kind of spelty muffins that are like brown and look like someone's mashed together some porridge. I think they're a waste of space. No, not for me that. No, no, I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't eat a huge amount of muffins actually. Right. Okay. That's a bit defensive, needlessly defensive. No, no, I'm actually I don't. So if I do, how come I fucking don't? What's your baked

goods offering usually when you pop into a bakery anything French anything French you don't go with those mall or Those mall or ice creams with an ice cream cone the top Like a ball of mall or you fill you with my law Marshmallow yeah, I don't know. Yeah, but in that context is never marshmallow. It's always mall or because it was difference between marshmallow and mall Oh, is there a difference? I don't know. Yeah, I guess I think mall's never marshmallow, it's always mallow. What's the difference between marshmallow and mallow? Is there a difference? Yeah, I guess I think mallow is the innards of a marshmallow. I think marshmallow you have to have a dusting of flour or icing sugar. Rather than flour.

But yeah, it's like you see them in crap bakeries and if I'm going to choose it's either that over another slice but like an up like a an ice cream cone sometimes the flat sort of three quarter length ones up turned with a blob of mallow in the top and hundreds and thousands on the top absolutely delicious now you've mentioned it and described it I think I have seen them and I would enjoy eating them but I don't feel I don't really feel like I go hunting for them. When I say anything French, I mean, pan a raisin, which I'm very self-conscious about saying, I don't really know how to say it.

Pan a raisin? Yeah, because like croissant we're used to, right? Yes. But I don't understand why they've not done a... Listen, if Brexit taught us one thing, is that we should be able to confidently walk into a bakery in London and have some kind of translation already done for us for a pan of raisin.

Yeah. Because it basically means bread with raisins. So why don't you just change the name of it to raisin bread or something. The big kind of snack in Japan is melon pan. What's that? Just a melon-flavoured bread. We don't really fuck with melon-flavoured bread over here, do we?

I've never heard of it. Lovely with a cup of tea. I'm always confused and have been abused by a man in a patisserie valerie about how I pronounce that. R-I-P. Fuel. Is it milfoy? Milfoy?

That sounds like that. I mean, people criticise quite rightly the English language for having inordinately kind of difficult spellings and pronunciations, but that for a vanilla slice is a piss take the French, I have to say. But I don't think it's the same as a vanilla slice, is it? Yeah, it's pretty much the same thing isn't it? Just puff pastry and pastry cream. You were on record as saying that about 14 different countries delicacies and specialist

dishes are basically cheese on toast though. It is yeah, it's completely true yeah. Put cheese on something. Oh it's suddenly better and now our national dish. Yes please. Thank you. I've had a pop at the Italians with that mate. Brave. But you were going to say something about your Primark t-shirt.

Uh, I'm, I, Mark has fingered my Primark t-shirt and demanded to know where it was from. And he said, Ooh, Primark. And, uh, it's the only place my mom buys clothes. I think whenever she sends me clothes, it's always from Primark I think it's the one shop left in the Middleton Grange shopping centre in Harlepool Should I be surprised that your mum still sends you clothes? Is it all starting to fall into place when I see some of the stuff you're wearing? Yeah, she's got dementia. No, she's quite's got dementia now. Um, she's no she's quite good at like picking quite safe Tidy clothes. So if you ever see me in my most demure if you ever see me in my most

T-shirt suits you quite well put together. Yeah That's because my mom has bought me some clothes But you once said to me that you you essentially some mornings you just get up and you'll just put on The first clothes you see without even looking at them. For the Ramble live tour, at the end for the climax, so to speak, I was wearing what would probably be described as some white Y-Fronts. And I have started, I've just started wearing them unironically, unironically wearing Y-Fronts. Are you, so you're sporting Y're sporting Y fronts under your jeans today?

Not today, but yesterday I certainly did. I don't feel comfortable with that. Why? What do you mean? They're free pants. Well, tax deductible pants anyway. I never fully think about the underwear you're wearing. No.

I mean, which is mad, because I've seen it all so many times. I should do. I've seen it all constantly. But for some reason, hearing that you're wearing wide fronts under your trousers has affected me quite badly. It's a furtive look, isn't it?

I would say like, if you look at my usual under crackers, they, about 10 years ago I bought about 30 pairs of pants and they're still seeing me alright. They were kind of going for the Calvin Klein logo around the top but the brand was inexplicably location so they look like official channel 4 location location location pants because the word is repeated around the waistband Where'd you get those from? Amazon just just general Amazon purchases. I Find the next a front fit me the best a front what's an airfront?

So like a box of short they're like a boxer but they're like they're a bit tighter They're not like flapping around like those kind of comedy. So you know when I think of those comedy boxer shorts, the really loose ones, basically that they wear men behaving badly. Yeah, or skaters, you'd have quite low rise jeans and the pants, like the crispy sort of pants. These ones are like Calvin Klein style,

but they just fit me better. You'd think with skaters, you'd need a bit more support if you were sort of moving around a bit. Jason Vale Yeah, I often found it strange that most skaters will wear really, really baggy jeans. Will Barron Yeah. Jason Vale It's going to get in the way. Will Barron No. Well, you just wear them enough and they just become absolutely perished with the filth and the rain and the slush.

Jason Vale Did you want to back in the say the mid to late 90s, I know you're a fan of the old pop punk, would you have liked to have been a good skater? Yeah, no, I had a BMX for a bit. I've got a BMX now to be honest. I've reclaimed my BMX-iness. That's tragic. That is quite problematic and dangerous coming down the hill towards the station with that helmet.

Well, it's also problematic given that people are almost certainly going to think you're a paedophile. The thing about BMXers, they don't have any gears, so when I'm sort of going up when I'm going up the hill and it's a big old fucking hill and I'm pedaling like Orbilio, I look like um the bloke from Saw, I look with his tricycle. It's such a small wheel anyway and there's no gears and I'm going, my heart's pounding and I'm sweating. It's got a bit of Stephen King's it energy about it. So it's pretty, it's a chaotic vision, it really is. When I was about 14, I built my own BMX.

You built your own BMX. What do you mean? Yeah We're really into it and we would get by the parts from the back of magazines and stuff So basically you got into like BMX in and cycling quite a lot It's matter bit it was a combination between mountain biking and and BMX thing and we used to subscribe to what I would do is I would get like a subscription to say a and BMXing and we used to subscribe. So what I would do is I would get like a subscription to say a biking magazine for my birthday or whatever. In the back of the magazines,

they had all these different parts you could buy on like mail order. Next to the adverts for pills that would make you strong and attractive to ladies. Yeah, it was a much more innocent time then. Like it was basically just like derailleurs and fucking headsets and wheels and tires and stuff.

And you'd save up the money you had from like your paper round or from your Christmas money or whatever and you'd just assemble it. And we used to spend, and we also, to be honest, we used to go down the dump quite a lot. We used to go down the local dump and like find parts where people are dumped and repurpose them and stuff. So we built our own BMXs and we used to have this little course we used to do around the back alley of our houses where we'd have like a bunny hop thing and all this kind of stuff, like a little ramp that we'd made out of wood and stuff.

That must have been very satisfying. Do you remember the day you got rid of that bicycle you built yourself? I don't actually remember what happened to it. I think it probably, I probably did what a lot of teenagers do and probably just thought I got a job at a sports shop at 16, started going to the pub and playing football with our adults and I just probably thought I was too mature for it. And it melted. I probably gave it away.

Sadness. Yeah, it probably did. It probably just left untouched for ages. My parents probably thought, oh, he doesn't want any more. He's got rid of it, which is actually really sad. It was cool. It was like a black BMX. Everything about it was black.

It was cool. It was like a black BMX everything about it was black Was the Were you like I presume the biggest most important part is the frame itself That's the heaviest bit of welding that needs to be sort of created. So that's kind of Obviously didn't make the frame I bought the frame. What is it? Derailer So I mean the derailer would be much more relevant for a mountain bike A derailleur is the mechanism on the back wheel that you use to change gears Ah, right, okay, yeah

Were you a tremano man? Yeah, you would be, but I mean mate You get a lot more details than that There's loads of different types, like I mean you could spend You used to be able to spend a ridiculous amount of money on different types of derailleurs and stuff. Electric changing gears. Oh, it's probably all different now. Yeah. Wild.

But I remember having like Dior LX derailleurs, which were like, I mean, they're probably relatively fucking entry level these days. But then they are, I think it's the Dior Alex or the Dior XT, Dior XT maybe might have been the better one. Dior XT and it was expensive. Like, I mean, Dior XT drives them for like a 17 year old kid who had like a, I think I had like a job or whatever, but that was not, it was a Saturday job, right? They were like, back in the day, they were like probably low hundreds of pounds. Right. And they were like, that's a big deal, right?

Because what was mad is at one point, I had this mountain bike. I had a, what was it? Because my mate had a really decent quality GT mountain bike. And I had, what did I have in the end? I can't fucking remember. It might have been a Specialized or something like that, like Decent. And I had customized a bit of it.

So I had these different Dralias on it and I had different bits and pieces put on it. And I remember thinking at times, because I would keep it in the shed, locked up in the shed. The shed was locked and the back gate was locked. It never got nicked. Bike theft was massive then as it probably is now. But I remember thinking, yeah, I need to go and get this checked. What's it called? Watermarked by the police and stuff

because it was a proper decent piece. That was a big thing back in the day, getting your bike watermarked. You'd go down to a school playground and they'd watermark everyone's bikes for you. Yeah, that's basically what happened, right? It was a really great time because I used to go down to like Beer Forest and cycle through the trails and stuff around there. Then my mate and I got really into it. I kind of ducked out of it as I said when I started to, I don't know, do other stuff, but like a mate of mine got really into it.

You could spend any amount of money on it. I mean, it's probably, if I look back on it now, it probably wouldn't seem as expensive now because I've got a proper job and everything. But back then it was like, we're spending like quite a lot of our money on this. It was good fun, man. It was fucking great. Could you not get, you should come down to the Olympics,

the Olympics mountain bike track is right near my house. Come down to Hadley and- It might be why I'm so into line bikes now. I'm just tapping into that kind of early enthusiasm. Were you not into BMX and mountain biking when you were a kid? No, I wanted a BMX. I wanted a mountain bike, but my dad got me, how many mountains around here, son? You could have this one.

And he got me a racing bike with the curved. So in retrospect, I quite liked it. But when I was, when I, at that point I was I was like this is just Just a waste of everyone's time The the wheels are too thin they keep bursting It's all it's all road biking now They're in there all the people were all the adults where I am It's all like they all just want to be like Chris Froome, don't they? Right they bit like you see them

They always sort of like they're always in the the lycra. Does lycra in the amateur world really help? Do you know what I mean? Like, does it need to, do you need to wear lycra? Do you know what it is Pete? It's like, you know when you see, I don't know if you're watching a golf on TV, but if you do watch some golf and you look at the venue it's at and look at the fans who are at the golf course, they all dress like golfers. Right, yeah, okay. Even though they're not playing, they're just

watching. They're dressing golf gear. It's the same with cyclists, right? I think that they, it's part of the look. There's a couple of fellas, so when I take my son to nursery in the morning, it's normally, if I'm coming into the office, it's normally about 20 past 7, and I walk him into nursery and every single time I walk in, on the cafe on the way in, there's about four or five lads, probably about our age, sitting outside the cafe drinking their espressos in head to toe lycra and those little caps with the peak put up with their bikes. I think I'm the Giro d'Italia.

Yeah. And it's like, it's like, I get it. It's not, not for me to judge. You know, everyone's got different interests and stuff, but this is a little bit too performative for my tastes. They're always like having, They're always like carving their, they've always got big old bellies as well, hilariously. Oh yeah, have you heard that story about Bernard Ino? No, who's that? So Bernard Ino, nicknamed the Badger, was a guy, one French cyclist.

My information will be out of date, but at one point he was the most recent Frenchman to win the tour. And it's a big thing in France, right? It's a proper soul-searching thing that like not more French cyclists win the tour, right? Because it's like their thing, right? And he was, there's a brilliant book about it called Sleight and the Badger when, what's his name, Greg Lamond, the first American to win it, beat Bernard Ino.

Greg Lamond! He talks like that. Yeah, it's called Sleight and the Badger. He talks like that. Yeah. It's cool to say in the badger. He does talk exactly like that. It's a really good book anyway, but it goes into detail about the type of character Bernard Ino was, right? And probably is. And he was this proper, like stereotypical Frenchman, right? Properly everything you can imagine from a French site. Yeah, I'll just look at now. He's still, he's actually the most recent Frenchman to win it and he won it in 1985, right? But around that time, obviously in France, it's probably still the case now, around that time, obviously people were into cycling, they were wearing a lycra and stuff like that. And what the tour started

doing I think is they started selling yellow jerseys, which is what the winner, the leader wears, right? That's disrespectful, isn't it? You wouldn't want to wear that, would you? Well, you're on Bernard Hina's side because apparently he was regularly spotted out on training rides. Every time he saw someone like amateur cyclist or enthusiast wearing a yellow jersey, he was like running them off the road, like ripping it off their bellies and stuff. Saying, you don't deserve this, it takes to earn this. It's like a very French thing to do. But like, it's funny, your natural instinct was to say, Oh, that's actually quite disrespectful to have them. It would be like me wearing one of your university tops.

Um, not really. Well, yeah, it is cause I didn't go to university. Cause they need funding. They need the help, all the help they can get. Yeah. Well, I think it would be like, is it not the sporting equivalent of maybe wearing a bravery medal for a war that you didn't fight in maybe? Which some people do, right? There's that whole stolen valor thing online, isn't there? Have you seen that? Will- I love every time somebody sticks their head above the parapet.

I like people who live their life being an absolute Walter, um, pretending they've done the things that they haven't done. And then something happens that thrusts them into the limelight they didn't want and just seeing them get taken apart, usually on Reddit by people who really know what they're talking about. And if they don't, they're very adamant about it. Dictionary definition, bigger boys. Yeah, absolute bigger boys. Just going, I was in that company. He didn't, he wasn't there. That didn't happen. He's wearing that wrong. I reckon that was probably, I reckon it's probably sacrosanct to say it, or sorry sacrilege

to say it, but surely in the years immediately after the second world war, there must have been a lot of that going on. Cause every fighting aged man did stuff, right? You know, you could be in the catering corps, right? But you could be talking about, because that's like a fault, it's that joke in Faulty's Hours where Basil Faulty alludes to the fact that he was in Korea and he killed four men and his wife comes in and says, yeah, he was in the catering corps, he used to poison them. He used to poison his comrades. There must have been so much of that going on after the Second World War because there's so much going on, right? Yeah. How'd you lose your hand, Peter? It wasn't a letter box. The war got me.

I'll tell you what, it wasn't. It wasn't an uninteresting incident. It was. And then just leave it at that. It wasn't me trying to build my daughter a Wendy house with a still saw. Wasn't that? Definitely wasn't that. I saw, do you know that guy Jason Fox who's one of those SAS who dares wins guys? Right, okay, yeah. He seems like one of the least objectionable ones. He's not Ant Middleton who's currently

running for mayor of London and he's a maniac. You know Ant Middleton, right? Yes, I know Ant Middleton. He's the wrong one. Yeah. I think he got booted off the show, I think, for something. Jason Fox is a guy, he seems quite, I don't know him, never met him, done anything about him, I've seen him on telly, but he's the one who's done the mental health advocacy and stuff, and they had like serious PTSD and stuff like that.

But he was in the SBS and he said that that down in Poole where they're based, there's a couple of local pubs that they would go to because obviously young lads doing their thing. And he said, you'd always get what you've just said, as you called them, Walters in the pub, pretending to be in the pub because they're in Poole for that reason, right? And he said, he's had it before. He was telling you, it wasn't Desert Island Discs, but it was one of those types of podcasts where he's talking about his life. And he said that he would sometimes be in that pub after like a long day's train and whatever it is they do, I don't know what they do, but he's in the

pub with a couple of mates. And I think those guys tend to be quite unassuming, don't they? And quiet and stuff. So he was just doing his thing, having a beer. Said these guys like were just pretending to be these special forces guys just chatting to him, like talking to him. You never know, there could be a few other, other of us in this pub, you know, we're with Dr. and everywhere, but you'd never know kind of thing. And he's just sitting there just sipping his pipe, not saying anything. Like, so I've never seen these guys before. Like, as you said, they've got like pot bellies and they're like 45, like what, what's going on? It's mad, it's a mad psychology of that.

It's weird that you would have more than one person doing it because you all know you're talking shite. Or maybe if you're a bit of a lie, often enough, you just kind of, you just assume, you just kind of start absorbing it I suppose. It's funny because we have a different perspective on this because obviously I'm a pretty good bluffer, right? I could, I could bluff my way through some stuff, I think. I often thought a really good idea. We talked about this because obviously I'm a pretty good bluffer. Right. I could bluff my way through some stuff, I think. I often thought a really good idea. We talked about this before and I think there was that, someone said, oh, in some country there was a TV show

called Faking It or something where, but the idea I had for a TV show, I told you about this before, is you take three or four people, one of them say is a plumber, and the other three aren't, and they get like a day to learn as much stuff as they can. And they go to a call out. And the person who survives the longest without getting found out like wins a prize or something.

Right? Now not with plumbing, but maybe with some other stuff. I reckon I could do quite well as that. I reckon you would crumble under scrutiny pretty much straight away. No, I would just box everything off. I'd just cover everything in silicon sealant and I'd just box everything off and nobody would be the wiser until it leaks. Got worse. I think the way to do it would be to use terms, use acronyms. Right, okay. That's a BDC type.

Isolate the customer with acronyms. Yeah, just absolutely throw it out. The problem is you've got a TSG on your DHG there. Is that bad? They don't know. Oh, he says, he says, is that bad? Right, I'm just going back to the van and then all the way straight away you're on to a winner. Yeah, I'd be like, I can't work in these conditions. Like if you don't know what a BDC is, I've got to go. I'm sorry, man. Like, look, literally get anyone else in, because I can't do this job. And then...

I've not got the tools in my van. Yeah, you'd still get the amount of money. Give me two of them, because I've got something in my van. Why do all vans have to have aftermarket metal plates installed on them to make people not steal their shit? Yeah, why don't they? I often think that. Why can't they just install that at factory OEM?

If you are selling a work van to a man in a trade who's got valuable stuff in the van for part of his trade Make the van secure. Make the van secure. Why have we got why have we got to have so many metal plates popped in? Maybe it's just security enthusiasts. By the way, I'm not saying I could bluff my way through like an SAS conversation because people just look at me right. I don't know you're quite tall. Yeah that's patronising. Let's have a break. What are you patronising? People trust tall people. That's why they're all successful. We've got loads of emails. Don't keep talking. let's have a break. Alright. Can I come back yet Luke? From the break?

Yeah, you're allowed. You're allowed right? Yeah, you call for the break, I've got to do the break, alright? You have. Hope you enjoyed that ad. I'm the ideas man. You'll be back some more in a bit. You're the ideas man.

If you'd like to get into the show, as always it's helloatlokmpcho.com. What have we got on the slate, on the docket right now from the listeners, Luke? Do you want to do some kind of just tidy up some Neil Young stuff? Let's get some, let's get, let's, let's, let's tidy up some loose ends, let's smudge out a ball of cocaine in someone's nostril, let's get things solid. Yeah, definitely. You've become obsessed with that. I can't believe you only recently discovered that. I didn't. I always knew about it, but I was watching a CGI video about where they were

going. Always knew about it. This is expensive. Came out of the womb. I knew more about it. Yeah. It was in cocaine enthusiast monthly. Yeah, that's good. It's just, yeah. You got a subscription to that, yeah?

Yeah. He's up there with cocaine enthusiasts. Yeah, it's true. Anyway, the Neil Young thing is going to run and run, let's we nip it in a bud now. And I think as ever, it's one of these things where I've said something confidently, you've backed down, but our listenership agree with you. So I agree. He's big grid of the grid. Fine. So Johnny says, I guys, this is a follow up from the original Neil Young email. He says, I appreciate the shout out. Love Bob Dylan. By love Bob Dylan, we mean the bar pick of his life and the songs played in that site. What does that mean? Also, more than happy to report back as Luke and Pete

Show's Glastonbury correspondent, thanks Johnny from Bristol. Johnny, I'm concerned you haven't got the credentials to do that job. Connor's got in touch. That guy who emailed about Neil Young is either a liar or an idiot, presumably referring to Johnny's original email. Sorry Johnny, I don't know how that's got in there, that's not my style at all to criticise listeners, so Pete's had a nightmare there saying that. And Nick has got in touch over Neil Young. Hi chaps, long time listener and wrestler me Pat Patrionson. Having listened to the constant Neil Young chat the last few weeks, I thought I'd let you know I'm going to Glastonbury this year and of course

Know who Neil Young is. Being a fan since going on a uni trip to France and listen to his decades album on loop during the trip While not a Neil aficionado like Luke I'm a big fan and I'm looking forward to his off-putting set at Worthy Farm in a few weeks As much as it pains me Neil while being musically brilliant and interesting is not mainstream in this country And when people ask me who is headlining Glastonbury this year, and I mentioned Sheikhi, a good majority of people say, who is that? This could vary from older people at work, younger staff or even those around my age. Maybe it's because of his best work being in the distance past around the time of other

iconic rock acts, but in the UK he may have had a big following, but his impact on the general public doesn't seem to have followed over with the likes of Dylan and his peers. Maybe it's because there don't seem to be many great documentaries and no definitely no biopics about him but I agree with Pete that come glass for me the coverage is gonna focus way more on Charlie XCX and Rod Stewart than it is Neil, love the work as always. Kind regards Nick from Birmingham. I think it is a little bit of that and he's kind of fallen into the musician's favourite headliner kind of vibe for me. Yeah, I get that.

He's fallen into the Tom Petty boulevard, Tom Petty hall. I feel like the original discussion we had might have been a slightly cross purposes anyway because I think initially I was responding to the idea that I think he's every bit as good a songwriter as Bob Dylan, right? Or David Blum. No, no. The argument was purely I said people are going to be despite because he is not an A grade performer and you disagreed massively with that.

That don't sound like me shooting from the hit. I think he's talented and I like his music, but I just think people are going to abuse his poor ass. His poor, winky ass. Did you ever indulge in him as part of the no repeat guarantee? Only, we didn't do Hey Hey. poor ass. His poor, wimpy ass. Did you ever indulge in him as part of the no repeat guarantee? Only, we didn't do Hey Hey. What song did we used to play? The sad, happy one. The one that was covered by an indie band once.

That's every Neil Young song. Yeah. What's the main, what's the big hit? It's a sad, happy song. What did we do? Heart of Gold, probably? Heart of Gold, Horse and Her Name I think. That's not them, everyone thinks that's Neil Young but that's not, that's another band who are basically trying to be Neil Young. Really? That wasn't even Neil Young? Well there you

go. The singer of that song, I think it's the band called America I think, I think he's basically unashamed of just doing a Neil Young impression of himself. I thought Neil Young was in America, that's what I assumed. Oh well. No. The more you don't know, the happier I get. Listen, the way I'm going at the moment, I'll probably find out I'm wrong about that as well. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. It was a TV show called Let's Find the Next Neil Young. And Neil Young attended the screening and filming rather,

pretending to be himself, and he won. Yeah, he came third. What about this then? This is quite an interesting one for the nerds among us. We had a conversation recently which meant we had to talk about what knots were, as in the speed of knot. I guess knot is like nautical miles per hour, right? Yeah. So that's what I mean when I mean knots not so don't mean the things you tie and rope But Chris has been in touch as hello to you guys as you touched on the subject of knots in the last show I thought I'd give you a little more information and not in simple terms is one nautical mile per hour

There you go. So speed of 25 knots would cover 25 nautical miles in an hour Approximately 29 miles per hour as you alluded to in your last show. But what is a nautical mile? This is where it all becomes even more dull and you could get really involved in it if you had Peat's addictive personality. Before the days of GPS, ships and laterally aircraft would navigate with reference to the Earth's longitude and latitude. The Earth is split into 360 degrees of latitude and then each degree is further split by another 60 into minutes Confusingly no relation to the minute we use to measure time And each minute is a nautical mile right people are fucking crack back in the day doing this stuff

So there are 60 times 360 brackets 21,600 nautical miles if you completed a full trip around the planet at the equator. I work as a pilot, another pilot, so I'm often converting knots in miles per hour to give the passengers an estimate of our distance to go and the current speed in units they are more familiar with. There we go. While I'm not a member of the Dole Men's Club social media page, it often comes up on my feed, so the algorithm has clearly worked me out. Keep up the great pod. Chris. So that's pilot Chris right pilot Neil pilot Dave and now we've got pilot Chris telling us all about knots. I mean imagine pilot Chris it's sort of converting

miles to nautical miles that quickly in your head to tell you know people and because according to Google it's 1.15 mile to every nautical mile, which seems needlessly, it just seems neat. I discovered, being a computer enthusiast myself, I discovered something that got like a Gibby byte this week. I mean, it's, it's, it's, there's a difference between, obviously there's a difference between gigabit, because that's kind of speed I think. Gigabytes and then there's a gibby byte which gibby byte is I think gibby byte is 1024 but that's what I thought gigabytes used to be so yeah gibby byte is a new fucking term that I've never heard of and apparently we're measuring when you see like GB or G.I.B. it's not gigabytes it's gibby bytes which is not helpful at all we didn't need this extra.

I've never even heard of that before. No, I've never heard. I'd only heard about it. And apparently the changeover from what a gigabyte was or a megabyte used to make. Gigabytes used to be, I think, 1024. That's always how we were taught. Probably taught by kilobytes. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. Kilobytes, 1024 bits, whatever. And then, and then, yeah, giga and then gigab, gigabit, and then, yeah, apparently, it changed over to 1000 rather than 1024. And then presumably, Gibby Byte is the, we're back to the 1024, so why do we bother even changing it?

We've got to invent another fucking time for it. That seems quite unnecessary. Before we go, a quick thing on longitudes that came up there. It's under represented, I think, exactly how difficult longitude was for centuries for sailors to work out. An amazing amount of... So obviously Britain's always been an amazing seafaring nation, right? So large part of our dominance, trade, the empire, all that kind of stuff was reliant on our ability at sea. But for a massive part of that time, essentially, it comes up time and time again when you read

history books of this type of stuff. Just the sheer amount of times that really experienced sailors just didn't know where they were really. You can do latitude really easily because you set that by the equator so you can do it on like stars and you can, it's pretty easy. But longitude, which is basically east-west rather than north-south, was always really tricky because obviously the earth's rotating. Yeah. And also, if I remember right, it was quite hard to have a reliable clock until like the 18th

century. So clocks just obviously back then were the pendulum. But you had like, you had like navies, like really world-dominant navies, like using death reckoning and stuff like that to work out where they were. Like basically dropping rope with knots tied to them overboard and stuff like that. There tied them overboard and stuff like that. They were people counting and stuff like that. It was crazy. So many ships were lost to that kind of stuff because they were just getting shipwrecks and stuff. When the British government ended up awarding the Longitude Prize for anyone who could effectively do it. And then

like I think it was in the 19th century, someone developed a chronometer. Was it called a chronometer which worked out? Maybe I'm wrong on that. They could have just called it a C clock and I've done with it. Imagine inventing that. There can't be many inventions in the world that are that pervasive. Do you know what I mean? Because even the internet was an amalgam of loads of different things, but just having the single minded, sort of bloody minded to make something that is so Um, a clock that would work at sea. Amazing. Big challenge. Big challenge. Big vibes. Good age. So pilot Chris, it wasn't dull. It was very interesting. Thanks for letting us know about that. All right, Peter, take us out of here. If you ever land at South

End Airport, let me know. Yeah. That, yeah. What, what is he going to let you know? What are you going to do? I want to get on his plane, I'll float around for a bit. Nice. A pleasure cruise of the sky, please. I'm gonna end this show in spectacular fashion. No one's gonna see it, but Luke will know I've done it. I'm going to make a shoe appear. Very good.

Very good. Impressive. I just flicked a shoe from my foot onto my hand. Impossible to follow. Onto my hand. Right, we'll be back on Thursday. Batteries and stuff, hello. LungapedeShow.com. We had a great showing on last week's show. We want your batteries. Get in touch.

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