The Luke and Pete Show - You Believe in the Moon?

Episode Date: June 15, 2026

Pete’s come down with a wicked case of World Cup Fever, exacerbated by the rediscovery of his ceremonial Kevin Keegan rug that will surely have a part to play in this year’s tournament. Just keep it away from electronics. Luke, meanwhile, has been to see Boyzone deliver two hours of consummate professionalism at the Emirates. Also present was Brian McFadden who, as Pete knows first-hand, is an excellent surrogate father. Elsewhere on today’s show: how to manage conspiracy theorists, a look at the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics and yet more tales from the tip.Send us your latest stories, questions and comments here: [e-mail] Luke and Pete Show is the sometimes ridiculous, always funny podcast with Luke Moore and Pete Donaldson: two men who have time on their hands and a good idea of how to waste it. Subscribe to get your comedy podcast fix every Monday and Thursday. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the Luke and Peach Show. Pete Donaldson with you, joined by Mr. Lukie Moore. Just before the start of this show, I started eating a peach, thinking that your internet troubles might mean that I had time to finish the peach. I didn't have time to finish the peach. So now I've got half a peach, and I'm just going to be watching it rot throughout the next half an hour. How long are you planning on recording with me for?

Well, I don't know. I think peach is generally degraded quite quickly, but it feels like I remember watching a particularly arresting a ball of fruit rotting in sort of, what would you call it? How would you record that? It's kind of like, stop motion, is it?

Time lapse, that's the word. In the tape modern when I first went out of London. Who was the artist? And I can't remember. You can't remember because you don't respect artists. I do not respect, certainly nothing in the tape, all that muck. And yeah, it was just sort of rotted before me

and I was like, oh, that's exciting. I think what motivated me to actually get my shit together was knowing that it would deny you something you're enjoying. So that's the real... So it's almost biblical, isn't it? Yeah, that's what overpowers my emotions from anything else. Denied the young man a peach. Like when people say, what do you like doing?

The answer is not much. But if I can stop other people having a nice time, that's good for me. That's me, yeah. I'm like a human bollard of fun. Yeah, I go up and down. Do you go up and down at those automatic ones, though? Oh, they're fun. Whenever I see one of those rising up the ground in central London,

I get very, very excited. You also just get a little bit, kind of a little bit of a tingle when you walk over one thing, you know, it might come up. It might come up right now, yeah. It's like stepping out of the lift. You're like, I need to do this quickly because I don't want to be sliced enough for crying out loud. What's never you anywhere apart from the peach? It's just raining all the time.

It's just a lot of rain this week. Crazy weather. Crazy weather. There's too much of it. The one at the train station was very angry because she had a gas heater on. I've got my gas heater on, she said. In June. In June, I'll tell you.

Yeah, the feels like temperature when I left the office earlier was 10. 10 degrees. Is that real field trademark? I don't know. Why did they... Real field trademark. How have they trademarked that? I don't know.

How do you trademark? Is that like just a formula? Or just like we're branding up this number? Real feel trademark on the old Accuather app? Maybe it's just very, very good. Yeah. It's a proprietary. I don't want to share it.

By the way, before we move forward, can I just say something to you in code that I should have said before we came on air, but I forgot. Yes. And so you know that thing we've dealt with over the last couple days. Right. Yes.

I think so, yes. Yeah, we can't reference it on any shows at the moment because some people involved are threateninging litigation. Right. Okay. Good. Just leave it. Don't bring it up. I know sometimes when you run out things and say you start saying stuff.

Just don't say anything. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Good. Thanks. What have you been up to, mate?

Just talk to me a bit about how you've been keeping really busy and you've had a really nice time. And also, by the time this comes out, World Cup would have started. And I know you've got the fever. So talk to me a bit about that as well. I got the fever. Do you need some cowboy? I was heading out to my dusty studio. It's very dusty.

So my asthma immediately got worse. I'm having to carry around my asthma stuff like an oxygen tank. I'm not very concerned about it. It's like a proper disability now, yeah? Proper disability. It's become a proper disability. And no, and I went down on my decision comment. And I noticed that there was like a sort of something behind.

find a filing cabinet. I said, what's that? And I'd noticed it's the Kevin Keegan floor mat. This is basically a rug, a Kevin Keegan ceremonial rug that I bought off eBay from, I think, a ramble listener. Very nice. How much? You remember?

I certainly, they pointed out, I think it's 40 quid. And I gave it a little pressure wash. And... Is it dry now? No, God, no, it's right. I don't know why I did it today. Ridiculous. What are you going to bring it in? You're going to bring it into the office?

Why not to dry it out first, don't I? I think I'll probably bring it in on Sunday because for various childcare reasons, I'm coming in with my partner and then she's going to look after my daughter. Can we get it in this camera shot? Do you see? On the studio?

Well, if it's dry enough, hopefully we'll get some dry weather on Saturday, but it's all looking very perilous weather wise. Light down in the front of the desk, maybe. Yeah, yeah, it's a race against time. It shouldn't be near electronics, let's make that very clear. But, yeah. Nor should you?

No, good point. Yeah, I'm not. I'm permanently damp. When I see electronics, I'm permanently damp. That's what I get. That's what excites me for crying. It does. I've got some news. Yes.

Last Friday, I went to go and see Boyzone. Now, you said you were at the Emirates, I think? I was. It was at the Emirates, yeah. It was at the Emirates. And you appeared an astonishing amount of money for a beer and a hot dog or something. No, I didn't. I said that the beers were expensive. I didn't buy one.

Oh, okay. What were you on then? I think I just had a Diet Coke, I think. Or a Pepsi match for me. Diet Coke? That was a fibre. To get through an hour and a half of Boyson? Two hours, okay, for just over.

Two hours of 60 standards. My God. It's weird, actually. They have actually got a few more originals than you think. Well, what I heard, completely apart from your opinion about it, I did over here, I don't know why Reddit is serving me up, the Boyson subreddit, but they were, from the from, page and people are a bit annoyed that they were serving up some Brian Westlife songs as well

this was interesting so look I bought tickets for my sister for um for Christmas and then after a while she was like oh look she fancy coming with me it could be fun we'd pop along together and I was like yeah I'm up for that I'm always up for drink a diet cork I think I'm a diet cork thinking about it um anyway um and um so we went along right it was night we had a nice time it's a nice even spend some time together and all that good stuff. And it was like, I always find those types of things interesting because I can always find something to enjoy

out of a live event generally speaking. And it's a big event, right? So it's interesting by its very nature. And I think what happened was they had sold out the Saturday night. So they added another day on the Friday, but the Friday one wasn't sold out. So it's kind of like two thirds four,

which is pretty interesting in itself. It's kind of a weird situation. And, but, but, they had this situation as well where obviously one of the of the sad he no longer with us, Stephen Gaitley died many years ago so there's four of them left but I think the one of them, Mikey is in quite poor

I don't know, I've got to be careful how to choose my words here because I don't actually know but I think he might be in quite poor mental or physical health. Right. He can't really do much. Right. Whereas the other three are all in pretty good Nick so they all came out the three of them, Keith, Shane and the great Ronan who was a pro by the way, just an absolute pro. Yeah. And

they came out and did their thing. And then after a while, the fourth member came out on like a stall and did some singing and he went away again. So I think what might have happened and I'm just speculating here is that maybe they thought they could do the two hours.

Then perhaps Mikey realized he couldn't so they had to find a way of doing something else. So they rolled out Brian McFadden who was ultimately going to be popular with Boysone fans because he's a key member of Westlife. He's almost a side project. Yeah, one of the members of Boyzone and Brian McFadden have a boy's life project.

They've played South End quite recently. There we go. And I think, wow, they're really looking after the overheads there. There's only two of them. They're probably absolutely loving life. Yeah, I think that's absolutely key to any kind of touring, isn't it? Keep an overheads low. And so they did a song together.

It's like a new song they did together. And I guess people were, you know, thought, how they felt, how they felt about that. But to me, it was no real different to when, you know, I know if you've ever been to go see like Guns of Roses or ACDC or whatever. At one point they do do, one of the guitarists will do like a 10 minute long guitar solo so they, so they can, or a drum solo or whatever, so they could have a little break. Yeah. So I think, and little, little kind of costume change, all that kind of good stuff.

To me, look, I haven't said that, I wasn't actually really bothered that what they played. You know, it doesn't matter to me, but I guess if you're a boy's own purist, maybe you're not very happy with that. But it was an interesting event nonetheless. Well, obviously, was it, so who, is it not Stephen Gatley? He's the one who died. Who is the one in Westlife who they, Brian McFadden. Obviously, obviously I have a long storied history with Brian McFadden. Oh yeah, exactly, because he parented your child. He parented my child that time.

So, yeah. He's there when you need him, one would suggest. Yeah, they need. He's ready to lend a hand. He's an absolute, like, just a captain of reliability. You know, you need a little break in a big shot at the Emirates. Here comes Brian. You need someone to genuinely help.

You do a bit of parenting because you're at the end of your tether. Here comes Brian. Yeah. You said he was an excellent father, didn't you? He was an excellent surrogate father. Well, I can't speak to his, you know, other children that he wasn't with, but he seemed very warm towards the child he had there. Just remind us, very brief, of the entirety of your interaction.

I was having an odd conversation with a dad, like you do, in kind of holiday situations or nursery or whatever, when your daughter is obsessed with the daughter of someone else. You can't have a chat with them. And then we quickly realized it was Brian McFadden from Westlife. And the, and then my daughter fell over a rock, and Brian McFadden gave her a hug.

And I was basically cuckolded by a stronger father, by a better father. Again. Again. That's a great little story to tell her when she's older, though, isn't it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I've told that in airport cues before.

Like, because when I've been looking after other people's children, I'd be like, one time I met someone out of Westlife, who was doing this. what I'm doing right now with your child. Thank you. I guarantee it was going to happen. Yeah. In 30 years' time,

and we're greeted with the sad news of the untimely death of Brian McFadden. And it's all over the BBC News website or whatever. You can say to your daughter, oh, by the way, you know, you were once parented by him briefly. Yeah, exactly. In a sliding door's moment, which almost certainly contributed to his death.

I thought you were going to say that those stairs were down at the beach. Oh, so many of them. I thought you were going to say that I would be interviewed by the news. Oh, you might be? As a close personal friend of Brian McFadden from recently. Would you see him again? I have no access to him. Unless he rents that house after me again when I visit Cornwall on the rare occasion,

I go to Lusty Glare's Beach. There's no reason for me. There's no reason for me to see him. I know, I know. I mean, I'm sure he was delighted to learn that I had been sleeping in his bed, you know. Yeah, being the big man now, though, McFadden, being the big, being the big daddy now, big dad on campus now, but I slept in your bed and done loads of farts in it. Ha ha, ha, and the rest.

Was your daughter calling him, Dad? No, she didn't go, she didn't go that. That would be going. Yeah, that would be annoying. That would be annoying. I had to have a good old talk to my son this morning on the way to nursery, because he was just so naughty. And I know he's probably not the right word

because he's only three. He doesn't know what he's doing. But I had to... Green canisters. I had to take his leg away this morning. Oh, whoa. That is the nuclear option. And how did he deal with that?

A bit of screaming. A bit of screaming. Yeah. A bit of screaming. Yeah. My daughter started telling me that, I'm angry, Daddy. And I'm like, yeah.

Yeah, you are. How do we deal this? I mean, you'll fit in fine around here because we're frequently, frequently furious. I have heard they do model the behaviour. Yeah. How did your anger tend to manifest itself? You storm off a lot.

I feel like you're a stormer offer a bit. No, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a try and get this one nailed so we can move on kind of character. But unfortunately, not in my experience. The other partner I have access to is not. She's a, she's a walker offer. I'm a, let's try and get this sorted, making it worse every time. I think you might be deluded. What do you mean?

I think of you as immediately just leaving and going somewhere else. No, no, no, no. I want everyone to see my rage. You want to see, you need to access every facet of my anger. No, I am very much, can we get this sorted, please? How would you say I deal with it? I don't know, I don't really see you getting,

I see, like, flashes. They come out of nowhere with you. And I, yeah, they come out of nowhere. It's excited, isn't it? You know? It doesn't seem, it's usually, it's usually being, you've been mugged off somewhere. I think mugging off is always the, there's always a trigger for you, but I don't really know what the, yeah. But I think, I think I've managed to nail that kind of vibe where I'm like permanently on the edge of being angry.

So everyone just kind of gets used to it. Right. Okay. And they ignore it. The worst thing about it is that, um, the worst response I get in the, in the, in the family home is just, I'll articulate my, feelings and then five minutes later it's like oh nothing appears to have changed and everyone's carrying on as they were before yeah nice i could either choose to get even more angry about that or i think just let it go and because i'm always so tired i'd normally just let it go just have a little

lie down and reset yeah exactly um i i present facts and figures um that's disappointing it's a it's a vibe it's a vibe it's a house that runs on vibes i'm like let's yeah i'm like let's yeah i'm like right, that is an opinion. Let's look at the facts, and the facts aren't welcome. The facts are not welcome. I don't know your facts. I don't have a confidence

that your facts and figures are going to be accurate. No, my facts are fudged, but they do have a strong backbone. Give me an example of the fact that you'll bring to the table, and I promise you it will be an opinion. Just general.

Just general days in which I am, you know, running the household. And there are certain, and there are certain points. Oh, so you're like a point scorer type. You're a point scorer. I wouldn't say that. Oh, it sounds to me that you're scoring points.

I'm not a point scorer. I'm just an illuminator of facts. I cast light on dark, dusty cobweb-covered facts. Like Matt Letticea. Like Matt Lettissia. The domestic household. What did you make of Matt's latest foray into true telling? Well, it just seems to be like, again, you should take your advice a little bit and sort of say, right, has anyone

has much changed you know I've gone on about chem trails for a little while I've gone on about you know the 15 minutes city again the subtext always the Jews but like yeah always the weather someone's changing the weather the powers that be the new world order

are changing the weather and the government hate you and all that stuff and so he's done all that it's not changed anything everyone thinks he's still a kook move on to some new stuff don't just keep talking about the chem trails I don't know come up with the new you know the the sewers

are sending messages. You know what I mean? The poops that are flying past up... What's the Fatberg program? Yes, exactly. Yeah. Someone is sending messages through our Victorian sewer ducts.

And, you know, they're, that's how the glitter arty, the people are in charge are sending messages and, you know, moving Nazi gold through, they are using the sewers of... And we don't know about it,

because we don't want to get in our sewers. But he's been in the sewer. I like this. This has got the eggs. Yeah, I like it. I told you before, someone once gave me a brilliant piece of advice. I forget who it was, so forgive me. He said, if you ever can counter a conspiracy theorist,

you have to just be prepared to go far deeper than they've ever considered. Because then they don't know what to do. The example that they said to me was, if someone talks to you about, oh, I don't believe astronauts landing on the moon, your best response is, what, you believe in the moon? Yeah, nice. Okay, yeah. And they're like, whoa. I'm dealing with a crime here.

I'm not usually dealing with this level. You've got to say to you've got to basically almost articulate to them. I'll go deeper than you're ever prepared to go, mate. Yeah. I will go David Ike times a million if you want. I'll go, I've had a human lizard in my house and performed an autopsy on him. And it turned out he was a minor royal. You've got to go down that road.

You've got to basically. Essentially carve yourself out a proper niche that they're not prepared to go to. Well, do you remember that naughtiness with the Samsung Galaxy phone a few years ago? Their big kind of pitch was you can take a super detailed picture of the moon. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you'd take, and so you'd point your camera at the moon, and you would super zoom it, and it would be all blurry, and you'd click a button, suddenly it was this beautiful moon.

But it wasn't actually the... light reflecting off the moon that was hitting your camera sensor. It was basically, they were uploading the picture that you'd taken to the net, the web, the AI superstructure. The information superhighway? The information

superhighway, the will, we'll, were. And they were basically working out where you were, what time of day it was, what the moon would look like under perfect conditions. And then they were sending that, they were superimposing that picture of the moon back and sending it back to you. And you were going, oh, I've

And people found out about that and they were annoyed, were they? Yeah, and they were annoyed because they were just like, well, you're not actually, you're not actually taking a picture, are you? People, there are a certain amount of retro enthusiasts who buy old, like iPhone 4s, I think was the last generation, that kind of year. I don't know what year it was in 2000, God, nine or something, I don't know. But that was the last year before they started using, like, AI and algorithms to make the pixels look better out of camera, you know, in camera,

rather than just, you know, light hits camera sensor, that's a picture. Is that what they're doing now, is it? So if I take a photo of, like, the inside of one of my bedrooms at home, yeah. How are they manipulating that to make it look at? It's worth, like, it's what, well, they're just basically taking a, in the grand scheme of super high definition pictures. Say if you sort of zoom in really, really far,

you have very pixelated crappy image, and basically they're just looking, using AI to sort of figure out, well, what's that supposed to look like? And so, therefore, from a distance you get for that, right? I think it can do a certain amount on phone. Don't, don't, if I've got that wrong, apologies, but I think they can do quite a lot on phone. But yeah, so if you zoom in quite far,

they basically just make, you know, they use algorithm that you do to kind of super, super HD it when it's not actually got enough information. And it frequently looks a bit shit. The amount of life faces far in the distance looks absolutely terrible. And it's really bad with them writing and stuff. It's getting better, obviously,

but it's worse in, Chinese phones I find because I've had a I've got a Jaume I've got a Jome I've got a couple of phones that I've never I've had a couple of I've got I've got a I've got a Jami in before that I had an honour and their kind of stuff that they use is quite heavy heavy hand let's say

but yeah I had no idea about that because when we were at this boy's own concert my sister's got the brand new iPhone I think it's a 17 nice 17 pro whatever and the zoom on that is remarkable I 24 zoom in H-D clarity. So we could zoom in on the stage and you could see the actual expressions of the performance. It's amazing, isn't it? Yeah. And sometimes I think having a nice

screen helps as well. Like yeah, I can see a photograph, a really nice photograph, really detailed on like my iPhone and it looks way worse to everybody else's version of it who have like an iPhone. They do have lovely all-edged screens the old iPhones. Could I say something that might baffle us both and you know. Baffle away? I mean, have you heard of, because you're talking about the moon and people looking at the moon stuff, have you heard of the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics? No. The reason it's named, I think it's named after the university that Niels Bohr and Werner-Hisenberg and, you know Heisenberg, right?

Because of breaking bad and stuff, right? Eisenberg is an amazing scientist. Now, apparently, and I might come up me if I've got this wrong guys listening or watching, what they were able to prove was that a subatomic level that no particle exists in any position at all until it is measured. So basically, there's no way of knowing anything actually exists in a certain space or time or whatever unless it's being observed. So the comparison would be that that interpretation of quantum, to mechanics essentially states that if you take that to the atomic level, the moon doesn't technically exist in that exact position

unless there's someone there to look at it. Right. Isn't that bonkers? Don't you think that's absolutely mad? Do you know, I think sometimes things are so sort of out there. You're just kind of like, well, there's no point in me gaining any understanding because there's very little reason for me knowing it. Do you know what I mean?

It's like knowing out to... I think, but it's got amazing, it's got amazing ramifications for science because it basically goes against the, the classically understood Einsteinian idea of science. But basically what it means, what it's essentially saying is that particular subatomic particle exists in all possible states and ways and positions until it is observed at that point. Yeah. Don't you think that's mad? I mean, why, yeah, but why is it out of all of like the facts like that? Why is that particularly more mad than anything else? Do you know what I mean from that space?

Well, I just think everything at subatomic level is really odd. And I think that that goes directly against what everyone before that understood, like, reality and matter and things existing meant. So it's bonkers to say, like, it's probably not that helpful to extrapolate it up to the kind of living world. But, like, if you, that's basically saying that the moon exists in every possible place it's able to exist in until people live. to be confirmed to be, and identify it and say there it is. I just ask,

that's a mad idea of reality. Like, it's really confusing bonkers, like bananas idea of reality. I just think it's interesting. And you reminded me of it because when I first read that, someone made that comparison and said,

well, what that means is ultimately, you know, if there's no one that to look at the moon, it technically exists everywhere until it's not. Schroding's moon. Yeah. Well, Schroding is cat.

It's another kind of, I'm a boring one with that, but that's another kind of mad thing that, like, it can be alive and dead at the same time until someone observes that it's either alive or dead. It's mad. Yeah.

But it's kind of, I find that part of the living world being really unhelpful. Like, I don't need to think about that because I don't ever, like, I know how to, I know that that's a door. I know that this is a strip light. I know that I'm using a computer. but I think that level of kind of science and the living world is just so unhelpful to me because I have no use for it so I may as well not know it and I almost feel and it's a bit like you know I get a bit annoyed about space it's of no use to me right now I can find it

I can find it inspirational and interesting but it's just it's just of no use to me right now I think you just feel like I know your take on this stuff is that you know you've simply You've got other things on. You've got other crocodile. It's like annoying how to clean. You know like that bit, those big cement mixes you see on the truck. You know, the truck cement mixes. They go down the street and someone has paid a lot of money to climb in the cement mixer

and clean the cement with the pressure washer before it's filled up with cement once again. I think it's like that. That person knows how to do that. He has paid a certain amount of money to perform that skill. But I will never need to know about the quantum. stuff because it's just like I may as well be told about the man who pressure washes the inside of a cement mixer. I'll never need to know how to do that. So I may as well not need to know that it happens if that makes sense. So you're saying there's limited space in the brain for that?

I think we are finding with this conversation that that's very apparently, very apparel. What are an example of other things that you don't need to know about? I mean, presumably you are interested in how to pressure washed inside of a cement mixer. Yeah, it's a bad example because it is a bad example because I think of someone, I can absolutely make a lot of time. I can absolutely Imagine you doing that. Crawling through. I am a little boy, too fair. It's down the tip earlier and two bigger men asked if I needed some help.

That's a low point. That is emasculating, mate. Not in front of your family. I was in front and front. Why would I take my family to the tip? Come on, guys. Maybe left him in the car. It was a compromise.

You want to go to the tip again. Yeah. The partner you have access to you wants to just double check. I mean, it's very unlikely that another woman is also falling in love with you. so yeah just double check oh no he is actually going to the tip no it's fine no further questions it's down the tip again what were you carrying uh big breeze blocks just big big old breeze blocks

where did the problem was did wall like knock down the problem was that um i parked too far away from the the rubble the hard core cool name cool name for uh for a bit of rubble in it so i moved a car eventually but i was making some massive trips to the hardcore bin uh hardcore mine are a threat in there just for Man of threatening that 15 minute set. Going for it.

I told you the last month at the tip of a guy that accidentally threw his best shoes in there. Ha! Ha! My best shoes! Love it! I did get away with some absolute... I did put some rubble in the soil bit. Oh, you dirty rotter. I mean, where does garden waste start?

And, like, soil is just, you know, dirt, in it? You make it work for other working-class people, though. Yeah, but like bricks are just dirt, just sand and dirt that have been, you know, heated in the sun, in it? Yeah, you could have said, If someone says that doesn't go in there, he said, grind it down. You'll see.

Grind it down. A little wink on the way out. Now it's, now it's garden. Now it's garden time. You have to, if you're, if you are reversing back out of the tip in the car, you have to put your arm around the passenger seat, lean back, lean back. Lean back, look at the back window and give a nice wink to anyone sitting in the back seat. What do you mean? As in sort of saying, like, it's done.

You got to do this. You've got to go like this. Lean back. Yeah. Oh, if you're reversing in someone's in that. Right. Nice. Yeah.

Yeah. Don't ever reverse the car without doing that. The seats are down, though. The seats are already down. It's good to get into the habit, I think. To get the bricks in. Good to get into the habit of practice of that behaviour. You've got to do that.

Yeah. I'm going to have, I do find, I've spoken about it before, but I'm very pleased I've managed to acquire the open palm reverse and turn on the wheel. That's nice. That's nice. The power steering makes it so easy. I remember I used to do that in my mark two. Any power steering, God damn it. I don't have any...

In the century. It's 25 years old. Well, I mean, I've got power steering. It must have some kind of assistance. It does have some kind of assisted steering. But yeah. I mean, you can literally steer... With mine, you can...

The vulva, you can steer it with one finger. It's amazing. That's ridiculous, isn't it? Yeah, that is ridiculous. I very rarely have two hands on the steering wheel these days. That's how far off reservation I've gone. Any scratches? No pranks so far.

Touch wood. I've never actually... Touch wood. I've never actually crashed or pranged the car. Have you not? You're not working it hard enough. I've been driving since 1999 as well. You've never scratched a car.

Nope. That's wild. That is wild. One journey in my car, Neil, just absolutely. Well, I tell you what, actually, that's not entirely true. About a week after I passed my test, I got a Ford Fiesta Mark II for £200. Yeah.

And it was, yeah, it actually did a great job for me. It got me to and from several festivals that summer. It was a great, great car. A lovely little cassette tape deck in it. It was an absolute death trap, but we survived it somehow, right? About a week after I started driving, I took a corner too quick in the Mirthmobile and ended up perched on one of those like light up kind of plastic bollards

that fold down when you drive over them and I couldn't get off and me and a couple of mates to jump out and push it off. Right, okay. That's the only incident I've ever had. Oh, interesting. You've never, you've never gone over those, you know, when you go over those spikes when you, like, get out? It's usually like, weirdly only car hire rental places in America. Yeah.

I seem to really like going over, and I just feel like it's needlessly perilous. If you go the wrong way, you burst your tires, yeah. You burst all your tires. Which just seems like that would be a bigger issue for the car hire company. It would be like quite, you're just driving the wrong way. Yeah, just driving the wrong way. It just seems to. You create more problems than you're solving there.

Yeah, yeah. Right, now I've got a car. One of my cars was four burst tires stuck in the exit. Would you ever consider using those little sort of screws that you put into the tires to, if a screw's gone into your tire, you take the screw out and then you put like a special sort of seal and screw in there. A sealant screw. Yeah, apparently Americans are bang out for it. Like you'll go into like wheel chain shops and people will have like 10 of them.

them on one way. But do modern cars not, so I don't understand why modern cars still get punctures. What do you mean? Like, I don't understand what we're still persisting with a system, which is like you have to pump air in this tire, which is really easy to fucking break and pop. Yeah, but isn't it part of these, isn't it sort of counted as part of the suspension? It's quite useful to kind of get it down. But I just mean there must be other ways of doing it.

Well, you have those run flats, don't you? They have very thick walls so that they never, so that you can. can, even if they're deflated, you can kind of just get a way. It feels to me like there should be a solution now where, oh, it's some kind of like gel type liquid where... Gel type liquid. If it gets pumped, if it gets popped in some way, it just fucking goes into the gap and fills it.

Jail like thing. I'm not, I'm not bonkers to say that. I'm sure that's, surely that's something that can be done. I'm sure there's something that can be done, but it just transfers all of the vibrations into the wheel and the suspension and then you've got to get rid of it somehow, haven't you? I mean, that makes sense. Gotta get rid of it somehow. It's probably fair comment.

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