The Luke and Pete Show - You want that sock back, mate?
Episode Date: October 8, 2020Luke and Pete are back with a particularly poo-heavy half hour. Luke marvels at cats’ theatrics when doing their business, while Pete outlines his dog’s peculiar case of constipation. Luke tries t...o rescue proceedings by probing Pete’s die-hard love for steampunk. The pair also reminisce about celebrity visitors at school, with Pete momentarily convinced that the Pope once came to Hartlepool. But one emailer recounts a far, far better cameo than that. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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All right, we're back.
It's the Luke and Pete show.
I do hope you're having a cracking Thursday.
As promised, this show, dropping into your boxes, so to speak, at 5 a.m.
We did it, Luke.
You said, you said, ye of little faith said that we were going to drop at 7 o'clock.
I said 5 o'clock.
And when did it arrive in everyone's boxes?
5 a.m.
Well done us. Well done Finn for editing. I wasn't up at 5 a.m. I don't arrive in everyone's boxes? 5am. Well done us.
Well done Finn for editing.
I wasn't up at 5am.
I don't know why
we're at least up at 5am.
We've got at least 4 hours
before anyone's up
to solve any problems
that might have
with the show.
We're hoisting
our own petards
left, right and centre.
The only way you'd be up
at 5am is if you
had not gone to bed yet.
I think you will find, sir,
that my new routine
and the fact that we do the ramble a little earlier,
I've been getting up very, very early in the morning.
Thank you very much.
What time?
What's your routine now then, big man?
Get up at seven o'clock, mate.
Seven o'clock and that's early bird for me.
That is an early bird day.
Now I'm not on absolute
until one o'clock in the bloody morning.
I can, you know, go to bed at a reasonable time.
Is your body clock
adjusted now, do you reckon?
I can't really sleep past eight o'clock now.
It's got to that point.
Even at the weekend, it's not.
I've turned into a right old fuddy-duddy
in my opinion.
What's cool about sleeping late, though?
No.
Yeah.
It's not the nighties anymore.
You're not a slacker skateboarder anymore, mate.
You're not wearing a Pearl Jam t-shirt now, are you?
Yeah, but you know those days where you just sleep
until like 10 in the morning and you've had like nine hours sleep?
That's good.
And you may have drank a little bit,
a couple of glasses of red wine the night before.
You're still on form, though,
until it gets about four o'clock
and you're just knackered again.
Yeah, falling asleep again.
Oh, something lovely about snoozing.
This is Thursday's episode of Luke and Pete Show.
That man there is Pete Donaldson.
I am Luke Moore, in case you guys weren't aware.
On Monday, we talked quite extensively
about a number of different things,
including bridges of the EU
and dogs that can sniff
out anything and a human being who claims she can sniff out disease and other human beings who i
think might be a pervert but this on on thursday thursday's episode today's episode i wanted to
get to something pete that i didn't get a chance to get to on monday which is do you remember we
talked a while ago about the idea
of grafting a human voice box onto a chimp?
No, I'm not across this.
You're a chimp fan as well.
So basically, back in the day, a load of, I'm going to say scientists,
they might have just been rogue adult men, and it would have been men.
Chimp owners.
Try to graft a human voice box into a chimp
to see if, because they're so intelligent
and they've been shown to be able to do
loads of different sign language,
to see if they can actually speak.
But it never really worked, right?
No.
That would be ridiculous.
Yeah, because it's mental.
But what I was going to say was,
based on what we talked about on Monday,
re the dogs,
But what I was going to say was, based on what we talked about on Monday,
the dogs, clearly a dog has amazing sense of smell,
amazing sense of hearing, and probably pretty good sense of sight,
although we'll just stick with hearing and smell for now.
Is there any way you could draft those two things onto a human being
and create like a superhuman?
Hang on.
Graft what into what?
Graft a...
A sense of hearing and smell
from a dog's level
to a human being.
Yeah.
And you could sniff out
counterfeit DVDs.
Imagine if you were able to do that.
That's the only purpose you used it for.
Really outdated.
And what about, yeah, so say if a dog lives to 15, 16,
and he's grown up for the first two years of his life,
basically got a really good nose for counterfeit DVDs.
Life moves on.
We're not using DVDs anymore.
He's on the bloody scrap heap and it's
not his fault. It's the fault of
media moving on too quickly.
I can sniff
our iOmega
zip disks. I can sniff out
old mechanical hard
drives. Imagine if you
were trying to find a file on your computer but
you'd lost what the file name was and the
format was.
Get the sniffer dog in.
Yeah.
That'll tell you that's an MP4 or a PSD.
A real, what's a PSD?
Oh, Photoshop file, yeah.
Yeah, I know what I chose to do.
It just came to mind.
I've been using, that's a bit weird.
I've been using Keynote quite a lot recently.
Keynote's quite a flexible, fun,
party kind of package.
You're not normally someone who who let's put it this way
other people around you
at our company
have bullied you
into making presentations
is that fair
right okay
yeah yeah yeah
normally you just fly by night
you shoot from the hip
don't you
but secretly
I
well no one's forced me into it
I just saw someone
using one
and I was like
you know what
that looks pretty good
and I've started using it,
and it makes me feel good.
But underneath, just know that underneath every picture
in my presentation, there is a picture of my knob,
and no one can see it.
It's all in layers, right?
And at the bottom, every staccato show, right,
you create the logo with a PSD file, right?
And then when you export it out,
it flattens the image and puts it out as a PNG or a JPEG, right?
All right.
You don't know.
That's the problem.
You don't.
I know what the words mean.
And underneath all the layers on every staccato show,
my wanger.
So that's all I'm saying.
You know that if you're doing a presentation
to a lot of people you don't know,
you are always legally mandated to put...
To picture yourself naked.
No, a slide in the middle of the presentation at any point
with an 80s model woman with big hair and a bikini
and then you've got to go,
how did that get in there?
How did that get in there?
How did it get in there?
By the way, Pete,
speaking of you doing things
that you otherwise wouldn't do, I heard on the rumour mill,
and this will be interesting to fans of other Stakhanov shows
and the Football Ramble, I heard on the rumour mill
that you might be going to the cinema to watch a football match
with Andy Brassel.
Is that true?
That's true, yeah.
Andy rang me on the phone.
And you know I don't like to speak on the phone. He's all about it, Andy. He's always on the phone. And you know how I don't like to speak on the phone.
He's all about it, Andy.
He's always on the phone.
Right, okay.
Because he's a confident, well-read man.
But yeah, I think I'm going to go to the cinema with Andy
and I'm going to put my willy in the popcorn.
Do the popcorn trick, definite.
Do the old popcorn trick, mate.
Andy, get your hand in this popcorn, mate.
Ignore the fact.
I don't really know the details of that.
I think it's an international weekend.
Me and Andy are going to do that at the match.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
He just told me about it.
Me and Andy having a smooch.
Saturday night at the movies.
Me and Andy having a smooch.
In my mind, you are going to be sat next to him
with your penis in the bottom of the popcorn,
heavy breathing in anticipation, sweating,
while he slowly and patiently works his way through his own popcorn
and doesn't even look at yours because he's enjoying the football match.
He's a man of means.
He can order his own popcorn.
Exactly.
Yeah, but I'm excited.
I've not watched a football match at the cinema since,
do you remember when UK TV got given a couple of matches
about 15 years ago or something?
It was a very long time ago.
I seem to remember being at the cinema.
Yeah, and even then, it was a weird experience.
So it's going to be interesting.
Especially as, like, obviously the big news this week
is that Cineworld have closed.
And they're blaming it on James Bond.
How can they just blame one film for moving to next year
that they're going to just ruin everything?
Very, very easy.
Did James Bond do the pandemic?
He did, yeah.
He was very casual with his personal hygiene.
He's a man who travels quite a lot
and he put a lot of people at MI5 at risk.
Yeah.
Is it MI7?
Where does he work?
I don't think MI7's a thing.
Is it not a thing? nothing sorry you've gone too
high what's mi4 not as good as mi5 it's not really my specialist area but then again i would say that
yeah exactly that's exactly what someone who's the head of the seat of power when it gets the
top table of mi5 i'm the um i'm the part of the secret service that looks after
the training of dogs to smell out MP3s
yes lovely
real player fires
Pete speaking of that haven't you got two dogs
can they do anything good
not really
they can smell
sausages they smell food
I've taken a sort of like cooking
some like really posh steak for them because i love them
i think why are you cooking it he wakes in your own time they'll eat it they're dogs they'll eat
it raw but i just keep on like i forget going if i was a dog what would i like and it and and uh
yeah my father-in-law's dog ate a pair of socks don't worry about cooking a steak
they'll eat whatever They'll eat whatever.
They'll eat whatever.
One time, a few weeks ago, he was pooing,
and he'd finished the poo, and he was just kind of shaking because he was just trying to get rid of his poo,
but it wouldn't leave him.
And I had to.
Have you not heard the phrase, I'm shaking like a shitting dog?
I had to put my hand in a poo bag
and basically grab hold of the end of his poo
because it was stuck in his bum.
But it was like, but I pulled it, but it wasn't a poo.
It was just, like he'd eaten a hair extension.
I don't know whose hair extension it was.
This long black kind of chunk of hair.
He'd just eaten it and I was pulling it out
like a magician in a handkerchief.
It was really weird. really weird you know what i would love in my mind i'm now picturing a scenario where a crack team of uh police officers and dogs are going to try and find a huge haul of heroin and
cocaine and you cut to the end of the line of them it's just you there standing behind your little
dog putting the poo out of his bum going what what oh what
don't you all shit
you all don't take shits
no
leave it out
I know someone
from MI5 mate
grew up
that's surprising
when my father
and his dog
ate a sock
my brother and
I were out to
pull the sock
out of his bum hole
nah yeah
well look
you have to
otherwise it'll be
you know
you gotta be cruel
to be kind
and if you want your sock back
you've just got
you've just got to
grin and bear it unfortunately
have you ever seen
yeah amazing
have you ever seen
a cat take a poo
they're a bit more polite
with it aren't they
they're just
yeah they're kind of really
they are polite
but they're kind of really
like
secretive about it
they look at you like
what are you looking at
fucking what are you looking at
like leave it out and they look really peeved all the time they look around all the time while
they're doing it and one thing they will do one thing they will do which is absolutely mad right
is the cats is that so my cats will go out into the garden or a garden and they'll dig a hole and
they'll they'll they'll take a shit in the hole and they'll bury it right that's kind of how they do it and but sometimes they'll get confused
and i guess it's innate that they've been told by their mother to do that but sometimes they'll
get confused right so if if they if they see something they think looks like a bit of mud
but it isn't say for example a dark colored paving slab or whatever right they will they will do the motion
of digging the hole but obviously it's on concrete so nothing will happen they'll do a shit on the
floor right and then they'll go through the motions of the concrete around the shit they'll
scratch to look like it's put and burying it and they just walk off so they'll still do them they'll still do the procedure even though it's completely
pointless yeah i i don't understand why like like dogs will do a poo and then they will um do a
little kind of moonwalk to sort of like look like they're kind of like trying to bury it but they're
not really just doing the action they do a little moonwalk afterwards it's fascinating absolutely
four limbs on a moonwalk, that's twice as good.
It's wonderful.
I love watching dog do poos.
They're brilliant.
But the couple
that I have access
to, one of them
does have a
pooly.
Don't say the
couple that I have
access to because
that sounds mental.
They're not my
dogs but I do love
them a lot.
They're brilliant.
But one of them
has a bit of a
pooly tum tum
every now and again
and he's got to
take doggy
Gaviscon, which
is just Gaviscon in a smaller bottle for a larger price.
I've said it before, I'll say it several times.
The doggy Gaviscon is overpriced at best.
The thing is, right, that's mad to me
because I for ages was racking my brains
about what your partner sees in you.
And now I know she's got a dog with an upset stomach.
You are the world leading
expert on acid reflux so yes she's got you she's got essentially a professional on hand anytime
she needs it to give her advice about her dog's digestive system perfect it's yeah and i and i
poo about as often as the dog pretty much so yeah it's uh it's been um quite poo heavy this episode
can i change the subject? Is that all right?
Go on then.
Because I found out the other day
that the London New Year's Eve fireworks
have been cancelled.
Oh, what are we going to do instead?
It's not because of Corona.
People just think it's shit.
No, it is to do with Corona.
Apparently 100,000 people normally...
I don't know if you have to buy tickets or you have to kind of register your interest but apparently a hundred thousand people
normally turn up but they can't have it um so they're going to do something um that well
sadiq khan the mayor of london said the team are working on something people can enjoy in the
comfort and safety of their living rooms on tv i mean that's how i used to watch those fireworks
every year anyway so nothing's going to change for me. But I mean, are you sad about that, Pete?
Were you a fan of getting down
into the middle of London on New Year's Eve?
No, I thought it was dreadful.
I don't think I've ever had a good London New Year.
You normally away, aren't you?
I do like getting away, yeah.
I think the last,
I think it wasn't last year,
the year before I saw New Year in the,
oh God, which arms is it?
In Hoxton.
Some kind of,
some wanky,
kind of zeitgeisty pub,
where everyone,
where they said it was dress up,
and I thought it was fancy dress.
Oh yeah,
you went dressed as Charles Dickens
or something,
didn't you?
I dressed up as the bloke
out of Gangs of New York.
Oh,
Bill the Butcher.
Bill the Butcher
from Gangs of New York.
Stovepipe hat,
mutton chops, a 25 pound moustache
I'll give you that
for nothing
is that towards
the top end
or was that moderate
for a moustache
I don't really know
it was certainly
it was a great bit of work
it was a lovely curly moustache
something that made me
look just like him
and then I turned up
and nobody was
there was one man
kind of dressed as
Joey Ramone
but I think that might
have just been
how he dressed
so I was completely alone.
Hard to turn in Hoxton, to be fair.
I know, right?
I could have just put a couple of cogs on the front
and been steampunk.
I mean, but people, listen, before we go to a break, Pete,
first of all, you can grow an excellent moustache anyway,
so you should have saved yourself some money there
with a bit of foresight.
Secondly, I get regular tweets and messages about you and steampunk and people don't know
how to get into steampunk and what the kind of protocol or role rules are about steampunk and
they know that you are well into it so would you give people a bit more information i'm not well
into it i think it's a nom it's not well into it i hate i steampunk. It's just a load of fucking cogs and leather.
And time travel.
And time travel, probably.
Is it time travel?
I don't know what it is.
You tell me.
I don't know what it is.
It's all bollocks.
I hate steampunk.
Is it fair to say,
of all the people that work at Stack,
you are the most steampunk?
I will take that, yes.
I will have to take that.. Because you wear like a pocket watch
and a waistcoat sometimes.
And you knock about in a stovepipe hat.
And you do look a bit like
you've just travelled here
using some kind of Victorian
time travel device.
I'm not having it.
Right.
This is as angry as I've ever been
on this show.
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Alright then,
back on the show, no more
steampunk chat, no more cogs, no more leather,
no more beards, no more time travel.
I didn't know leather was a thing in steampunk,
I thought it was just cogs.
It seems to be
leather frocks. It's just a bit, it seems to be leather frocks.
It's just a bit Victorian,
coggy kind of stuff,
isn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
there might be people listening who are really into Steampunk and you've just,
yeah,
apologies for those people.
It's just not,
just not for me.
If they don't like it,
they should just fuck off to another timeline,
shouldn't they?
Yeah,
exactly.
Pete,
we've got a few good emails here.
I'm going to start with mine one if that's okay with you.
It is from Matt from London,
and he's emailed into hello at lukeandpete.com.
We urge you, listening at home, to do the same.
We've had email topics about awkward conversations with parents.
We've talked a lot about dogs over the last week or so.
Get in touch.
Everyone loves dogs.
You must have something to say about it.
And this one is a fairly common thread that we've done recently
about certain types of teachers.
Okay?
So Matt from London says,
Hi, guys.
I was listening in to the Luke and Jim show episode,
and the email about the secret footballer school teacher
reminded me of my GCSE history teacher, Mr. Turner. Do you remember who your GCSE history teacher was, Pete?
Mine was Miss Duckett.
Mr. Lee and Miss Heal, I think.
They shared.
Mr. Lee concentrated on the, I think he did
William Gladstone and Benjamin Disraeli,
and the other side was the Corn Laws and stuff like that.
So I very much preferred Mr. Lee's teachings.
He's very good.
He used to listen to The Ramble, I think.
Did he?
Fucking great.
Yeah, I think that was the case, yeah.
He was a head teacher for a while.
Yeah, Mr. Lee, I liked him a lot.
Mr. Lee, if you're out there
and you found your way towards this kind of episode,
please do send us any kind of school report card you've got about
Pete Donaldson. That'd be brilliant. Anyway,
Mr. Turner was a huge music fan
and he would always chat to us about what he was
listening to and ask him what the latest
music craze was. One of those
teachers. He said during one of these chats
he let slip that he was in fact
a former member
of 80s two-tone band
Bad Manners. Oh, big links. Great news. Actually, Matt of 80s two-tone band Bad Manners.
Oh, big links.
Great news.
Actually, Matt says 80s two-tone ska band.
I can't quite remember if Bad Manners was ska.
I thought they were kind of like oi or punk or something.
But anyway, it doesn't matter.
We know who Bad Manners was. No, they were definitely ska.
Lip-op fatty and lip-op fatty, fatty reggae.
Buster Bloodvessel was their lead singer, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And for those who are too young to remember,
Buster Blood Vessel was this guy who,
he was like a big, bald guy,
and he was like massively fat, right?
That was his thing.
I'm not being rude.
That was like actually his thing, wasn't it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He had a massive belly and a massive tongue.
And at one point, apparently, he was 31 stone.
And you think, well, okay okay if he's a musician he's
in rock and roll um he's probably not going to be any he might have shuffled off this mortal coil
he may have left this veil of tears but he hasn't actually he's shrunk down to 13 stone he's still
very much alive and by look of it and on google he's having a lovely time so good on him buster
anyway here's um his fellow band member
and now teacher of our listener, Matt from London,
Mr. Turner,
then proceeded to immediately pull up YouTube clips
of them on top of the pops
and put them on full screen on the class projector.
I love it.
He said, after telling this to my dad when I got home,
he took an unusually healthy interest
in attending the upcoming parents' evening,
having never previously given a shit.
So that's quite interesting.
And then Matt also says, Pete...
Oh, go on.
Yeah, I just always like,
with parents' evening,
I always used to be just incredibly scared
that I was going to get into trouble
and invariably they told me
that was a class clown and a prick
and all that stuff.
And I used to get in trouble.
Like, you forget that parents don't want to be there either.
They've got no interest in being there.
My mum wanted to be there, 100%.
Really?
You reckon?
Big time.
Nah.
Yeah.
It's just a waste of an evening, really, isn't it?
You know when your son's a little shit.
Yeah, the problem is my parents, who I love dearly,
they've backfilled the narrative there
because they're really proud of me now.
They've always been proud of me to an extent,
but I think secretly they were like,
oh God, Luke could have actually achieved something
if he really tried hard.
And now all of a sudden they're really happy all the time.
So they've backfilled the narrative.
So that's on them.
But my mum used to love Parents Even, I think,
and she also used to love reading my reports
to the point of where towards the end of my school days,
I used, by the way, I might have mentioned this to you before but this is ranked
as my one of my all-time best achievements i managed to convince my mum that the school had
stopped sending reports out oh yes yes yes i hid them at the back of the wardrobe for years
and i only found them when we moved house and i'd already left school by then. Check mate more.
Check mate.
Can't think about it now.
I'm no longer in education.
What are you going to do about it?
What do you mean you're kicking me out?
What I like about that is
why did they give the responsibility
of, was it like a final test
of honesty and valour
that you would deliver
your own fucking,
you know, your own P45 effectively for the family.
Sort of go, I'm a prick.
Here's a piece of paper saying I'm a prick.
Why do they give me this responsibility
to deliver my own fucking funeral effectively?
Yeah, yeah.
From memory, my school started out
giving them to us to take home.
And I think they probably saw the reams of paperwork
blustering around the local school field
and then started posting them.
But I used to get up early and intercept the post.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But anyway, I was going to say to you that one thing I would have liked
to have seen at school would have been the idea where you could kind of
negotiate a position with the school about your report.
Because the reason I say that is because I know kids have jumped up dickheads a lot of time and i certainly was but like you do get some teachers
who are just nasty pieces of work right so yeah and they're taking it out on people absolutely
and i remember um a couple of teachers who basically just didn't like the cut of my jib
right and everyone listening will understand that and i totally understand it i get it right
and i'm not i'm not arguing that they should have immediately taken a like to me but the thing is they shouldn't really be letting
that get in the way of their work i remember i remember a couple of teachers saying saying um
and i'm probably going to set myself up for a fall here and you're going to piss out on me right
i remember a couple of school reports from teachers saying that i wasn't very clever and
that was unintelligent and that's just such fucking bullshit like admittedly I didn't try very hard and if I all mean to say that but
don't just say that I'm fucking thick because I wasn't thick right you know what I mean it's just
it's just it's one of those things that still annoys me even now yeah but you've got to remember
I mean two things um I um I find you objectionable and I don't have to teach you. And B, you know, people are fallible and teaching is fucking exhausting.
And I don't know why anybody wants to do it.
I don't want to do it.
I went in a couple of classrooms, unbelievably.
I am CBG checked and did a little podcast lesson or whatever.
And I was there for two hours and I was fucking rinsed by the end of it.
Absolutely exhausted. or whatever. And I was there for two hours and I was fucking rinsed by the end of it. Absolutely.
How old were the kids?
Exhausted.
Probably about eight or nine.
I was fucking rinsed, mate.
I was absolutely done.
So I did,
obviously I don't want to talk
about the work I put back
into the community, Peter,
because that's not what I'm all about.
You know me,
I don't like to blow my own mind.
That's court mandated,
so you don't want to say it.
But I went and did some stuff with uh the university of
i'm gonna say buckinghamshire uh bedfordshire sorry sorry university of bedfordshire and um
and i went and gave a talk and they were able to ask questions about podcasting and stuff and i was
happy to do it it was great fun and and terry lee the guy who runs it is a good guy um but they were
all really i mean these guys are university students it's good guy. But they were all really, I mean, these guys are university students, it's a bit different,
but they were all really respectful and polite
and really, really enthusiastic.
I actually really enjoyed it.
So, I mean, if they're eight or nine,
that's probably a little bit different.
Anyway, but Matt finishes the email, by the way,
saying, in less rock and roll news,
one of my college lecturers was married
to former world's strongest man, Jeff Capes.
Jeff Capes was massive in the 80s.
I was thinking about Jeff Capes this very fucking morning.
Incredible.
Like, wow.
I'm so glad Jeff Capes got mentioned on the show
because he was in my mind and my heart this morning.
It was such...
I just thought in my life,
tossing cabers would just factor in a lot more
than it actually did.
And I think it's hard to overstate to people who are too young to remember who don't live in the uk how much of a
cultural touch point jeff capes was in the 80s for like no reason yeah yeah well i i can't um i was
reading um so the reason why i thought of jeff capes was because a big daddy you know a big daddy
yeah giant hair stacks two, two of the most famous
British wrestlers
who ever lived.
Yeah, sure.
But they were
terrible at their job.
They were awful,
they were terrible,
but they were
very much...
A lot of charisma,
but they were terrible
at their job.
Big Daddy's big move
was to throw
a bucket of,
a bucket of what
everyone thought
was water
over his core competitor,
but it was actually just torn up bits of paper.
And Mark Haynes was writing about how much he cared about Big Daddy.
But what I think we're forgetting is that Big Daddy,
and then I went on to think about Jeff Capes
because obviously he was a strong man of back in the day,
but it was back when strong men weren't particularly physically fit
or capable.
They were just big guys.
They were fat guys.
They would eat three breakfasts
and they'd go,
oh, and loads of shredded wheat
and all that business.
And so that would be
the test of strength.
You just eat a lot more stuff
than you actually
should really eat
and you'd be dead
when you're 50.
But yeah,
it was a...
I think nobody really
thinks about how...
And I hate to sashay
into Big Daddy town
but territory
but Big Daddy
as a name
is such a funny
and stupid name
like
his real name
was Shirley Crabtree
right
yeah
his son
is a rugby player
isn't he
and he looks just like him
his son is definitely
a kind of close relation
of his
he's a professional rugby player
he looks just like him
yeah
he's a real character
as well
gigantic look
anyway Pete apparently according to Matt Jeff Cates came to visit the school once but couldn't get into relation of his. He's a professional rugby league player. He looks just like him, yeah. He's a real character as well. Gigantic look.
Anyway, Pete, apparently, according to Matt, Jeff Cates came to visit the school once, but couldn't get into
the classroom chair, so stood by the door like
a correction officer at a youth offenders institute.
Which I can kind of imagine him doing,
can't you? Yeah, massively.
Did you have
anyone visit your school back in the day? Because we had
Jeremy Beadle and Tessa Sanderson.
Did you? We had Chris Akabusi. I was i was gonna say the pope but that can't be right
no you know why i'm thinking the pope visited right get this right there's a picture probably
right so our teacher mr carlos incredible um artist like he's incredibly he'd do these
beautiful oil paintings of everyone who visited the school.
And he painted Jeremy Beadle and Tessa Sanderson and then next to it was a
picture he'd painted of the Pope.
Now, in my
childhood I just thought that the Pope had visited
but then thinking about it, he'd probably just painted because it was a Catholic school
and he is the leader of the Catholic church.
So yeah, I would like to
state for the record, Pope John Paul II
did not visit Hartlepool English Martyr school secondary school and art college no but i mean maybe maybe
what was the name of the teacher mr carlos yeah he probably just um just liked him or whatever
yeah just it's a fan but chris akabusi came to our school right nice? Nice. Remember Chris Akabusi, yeah? I do, yeah.
Was he a runner or a... He was a runner, yeah, 400 metres.
And he's the original guy who everyone says did a wuga,
but he didn't.
He did, oh, wide, and it was John Fashion who did a wuga.
And that kind of fucking annoys me because people confuse it.
Oh, wide.
Yeah.
Yeah, he did have a pretty extensive vocal tick of the Ws.
Very strong, wasn't he?
Yeah, the Roy Hodgson, yeah.
But the thing was, when Chris Akabusi came to the school,
it was like a big thing.
And it was like, okay, it was the 90s.
He was popular.
He had a real big personality as well.
So it was like a cool thing.
And he came to an assembly and did like a talk.
And it started off talking about probably
I can't remember
which Olympics he was in
maybe the Barcelona Olympics
in 92
I'm going to guess that
and it was cool
and he did that
for about 10 minutes
and then like he did
the rest of the hour
about how much he loved God
and I felt a bit like
even then I felt a bit like
they snuck this in
through the back door here
like
they're trying to make
religion sound cool
because Chris
because Chris Akabusi is going on about it yeah and this is not what we signed up for we
didn't start for any of it we had to do it but you know what i mean so that's the only one i can
remember roger black is from my hometown as well he was also a 400 meter uh guy um he was from um
leon solar which is where i ended up spending a bit of my childhood so i don't know if he ever
visited the school i can't really remember but i can't stress to you enough and you know there are going to be
people listening to this you went to very very difficult schools inner city schools and I'm not
suggesting that mine compares to that but in terms of the area I grew up in my school was the worst
school around and I literally I was looking at the local news website yesterday actually
and one of my
classmates has just been put
away for four years for robbery
and he's probably
about the tenth person I can remember
from my school who's currently inside
or has been inside so I don't
imagine to be fair to Chris Akabusi
he enjoyed his time there much either
so it probably cut both ways.
Well, his local, I mean, just running around,
trying to get to the Gunwharf from one side of...
Well, he wasn't still running there from one side.
I think he could get a cab.
Well, I'm just saying that's why people from Leon Solent
are quite good at running.
That's all I'm thinking.
Could be, actually.
He's sort of had to run around there.
I mean, the thing is, though,
if you're aware of the geography of the area,
you wouldn't be running...
You'd probably...
Yeah, I mean, you could run all the you were aware of the jog for the area, you wouldn't be running, you'd probably, yeah, I mean,
you could run all the way
to Gosport Ferry from Lyon-Sodent,
but if you're going to run
all the way around to Portsmouth,
I mean, that is a long trek.
That is a long, yeah,
that's a long trek.
Yeah, I think with,
if you sort of look at,
do you remember in the local newspaper,
did you have like court moments,
I think it was called,
in the Hartlepool Mill,
where it was just everyone
who was up in court,
yeah, everyone in the area who was up in court. Yeah, court. It was just everyone
in the area who was up in court
for the local busybodies to read
up on. And like, yeah, there'd be a few
schoolmates from back in the day. I remember
being a super drug once, and there was a lad called
I'm not going to say his name.
I'm sure he's gone on to better things than
stealing an entire tray.
It's hard to explain
precisely how many razors
he managed to get into his bag in one fell swoop
by saying hello to me and a friend.
Just big swooping motion, woof, right in the bag and off.
All right, lads, see you later, and then off.
I remember a mate of mine at school,
I remember at school, he was in Woolworths
and he got lifted
and arrested and everything
because he stole a load of blank tapes.
I mean, what's the fucking point of that?
The pound to space ratio is way too high.
I'd be going for like fuses and batteries.
No, I mean, in blank tapes,
I mean, you sell them in the pub,
but it's too bulky.
Too bulky for me.
Exactly, exactly.
One of the things that you used to get when I worked at the supermarket full time,
I became quite good mates with the security guard there.
And we used to chat all the time.
And the things that most got stolen from the supermarket were things like batteries,
because they're expensive and they're small.
Everyone needs them.
Weirdly, nappies.
I guess it's not that weird. Right, okay. People need them and they're expensive and they're small. Everyone needs them. Weirdly, nappies, I guess it's not that weird
when people need them
and they're expensive
and just basic stuff
like the proper high-end
like bottles of whiskey and stuff.
Right, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were your main targets.
Makeup?
Makeup and razor oil
was making me
But this is the 90s.
I don't think the supermarket
I worked in
really sold makeup.
Right, okay. It wasn't one of those kind of all-encompassing type places like they are now. I don't think the supermarket I worked in really sold makeup. Right, okay.
It wasn't one of those kind of all-encompassing
type places like they are now.
I think it was more of a kind of food-based shop.
Okay, right, yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, if you needed makeup,
not that I did spend my teens dressed as a glam rocker,
but yeah, makeup was only ever sold in chemists.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, I can vaguely remember that.
I think these days, I think the other thing about it is that the accessibility
and the ease of being able to purchase pretty much everything you want
is something that you don't really think about now.
Back then, it wasn't as easy as that.
Things were a lot more separated out, weren't they?
Yeah, exactly.
How did you get in Maybelline, is the question.
Maybe you're born with it,
Pete.
Let's go.
Maybe you're born with it.
Let's get out of here.
Get me some V05 hot oil,
baby.
I remember that.
That was a big thing,
wasn't it?
Wasn't that a big thing?
Don't be so mean to your hair.
Get hot.
Yeah,
I remember that.
Anyway,
on that bombshell,
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until Monday.
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