The Luke and Pete Show - Your Guitar Has No Strings

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

It's a pretty guitar-heavy episode today as the lads chat about musical performance-themed anxiety nightmares (Pete's a member of the Smashing Pumpkins in his), different guitar sounds they like, and ...Liam Gallagher's son's band.But don't worry non-guitar fans, there's plenty for you to enjoy too! Including cricket, Vinnie Jones trying and failing to get a catchphrase off the ground, Simon Cowell's mental face and a follow up email about the guy from Brewdog. Rejoice in the splendour of ridiculousness that is the Luke and Pete Show! Email us: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com! You can also get in touch on X, Threads or Instagram if character-restricted messaging takes your fancy.Please fill out Stak's listener survey! It'll help us learn more about the content you love so we can bring you even more - you'll also be entered into a competition to win one of five PlayStation 5's! Click here: https://bit.ly/staksurvey2025 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:57 So we're better to keep up to speed. with English football's best division. Just search seconds here in your podcast app. Do you subscribe and listen now. I'm all right. Pretty excitable. I wouldn't go that far, Peter. No.
Starting point is 00:01:34 I'm a man of a certain age. Would you, I was reading a piece about the singer, Anastasia. I'm out of love! That one. Yeah, I know. Apparently she used to do a lot of parties
Starting point is 00:01:45 back in the day for the Hollywood elite. You know, those guys. The liberati, if you will. Arnold Schwarzenegger made her sing on Vogue's What a Man 12 times in a row. And if that
Starting point is 00:02:00 is not relatable. I don't know what is, to be honest. Getting Anastasia in your party and making a sing, what a man 12 times. That is a long old stint. That's pretty good, isn't it? Good song, though. It is a good
Starting point is 00:02:15 song, completely agree, yeah. I would I like his style. What's the situation? Why is that even happening? What's the party? I think it was just general. I think wasn't it kind of, weren't there who's the fellow who was in
Starting point is 00:02:32 or was Sonny who was in the film Twins with Arnold Schwarzenegger Danny DeVito I'm fairly certain he said that he I'm fairly certain that he said that he went to a party for presumably the film Twins with Arnold Schwarzenegger
Starting point is 00:02:47 and he went to a party and Arnold Schwarzenegger they had balls of cocaine with everyone's names sort of written out and Danny Vito's obviously just you know DeVito three syllable on the second
Starting point is 00:03:00 Schwarzenegger massive bull of cooking because his name was so very long and he was really happy sure it just says army yeah
Starting point is 00:03:07 yeah I mean that would kill people you can't have that much drugs in in one room can you that's gonna hurt I think it's a flawed system
Starting point is 00:03:18 I think it is a flawed system I think you end up if you're not careful you end up inviting people to your party who've got just got really short names yes exactly
Starting point is 00:03:27 otherwise you're gonna just cost you costs are going to go through the roof. Yeah. Vish, he's not allowed around my house. My little Suarez. And draja gets staffed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:38 That's too much. That is too much. I would love to. Have you seen that Arnold Schwarzenegger documentary on Netflix? I haven't, no. Is that one where he's working out and he's going, I'm just like, I'm coming. No, that's pumping iron.
Starting point is 00:03:52 That's the original. Yeah, there was like a more recent one that kind of like a biopic type thing of his life. Okay, do you right. I haven't seen it. I wonder if you had. It seems like a kind of thing you would watch. Yeah, it's kind of wrestling adjacent, isn't it? I suppose, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Yeah. I can't believe Arnie's not popped up in the L.W.E. Yeah, for some reason, I thought he had, but I don't think he has. I think he's two Billy Big Bollocks for that. I was watching one one. There's a wrestling show that takes place or took place in Sturgis, whatever the fuck that is, in America, where the Sturgis rally is, and it's basically just men,
Starting point is 00:04:25 like Weekend Warriors with really expensive. Harley-Davidson motorbikes and they basically WCW decided to put a resting show on simply because the owners or certainly the general managers of WCW really liked motorbikes
Starting point is 00:04:40 and that was kind of right good as reason as any so they had a pay-up of view at Sturgis motorcycle rally and they and it was a piece of shit and a lot of the bikers were frequently racist to the black performers
Starting point is 00:04:54 and it was and they didn't sell any tickets It was a complete freebie for people to come down So they didn't make any money that way It cost Turner broadcasting a load of money To put on and it was a waste of everyone's time But Dennis Rodman would just appear from nowhere Isn't that the story of any event in the 90s though
Starting point is 00:05:12 What, Dennis Rodman was just to appear from somewhere, yeah Nobody dressed in women's clothes He used to sort of obviously be booked as a talent But yeah, just one weekend at Road Wild 98 Road Wild 98 It sounds like Woodstock 99 of like wrestling Yeah, well, it used to go Hogwild, but I think the Harley Owners group had a problem with it, so they changed the entire pay-per-view to Roadwild.
Starting point is 00:05:37 You mentioned on Thursday that you did that live Russell Me show. Did loads of the audience dress up as well? No, no, they didn't. They brought a lot of stuff. Mark was, I think Mark's moving house, so he basically just set up a merch table and sold half of his life. That's a great idea. Like almost like a kind of like car boot sale, but just very targeted. Exactly, yeah, like a little wrestle card.
Starting point is 00:06:01 But I mean, at these wrestling shows, you do see people just selling, basically, their wrestling tut, really. And it's kind of, except that's kind of what's done. But yeah, it was, it was really good. We were covering the show that was in London, Capital Carnage, 1998. And Vinny Jones was the main kind of attraction. And he came on. And he, and he wasn't.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Lockstock and two smokty barrels just come out. And he was the main event. He was like the main sort of guy. And it was supposed to be like, it was supposed to be like a, like a, basically like a, oh, we're here in England. So we're going to sort of take the piss out of the English and stuff and get a lot of cheap heat like that.
Starting point is 00:06:43 You know, he slag off cups of tea and stuff. And Vinnie Jones was there to kind of be the counterweight of that. But he comes on. And I don't think he'd really been brief because his speech ended with him going, like he just panicked and just shouted. something he just went um it it's gonna be emotional and that was him leaving the link it's gonna be emotional
Starting point is 00:07:06 that's his famous line at the end of lockstock isn't it is it so his line at the end of lockstock I did not know that so he comes in and he gets his he gets his money or whatever for him and his son little Chris yeah and the last thing he says is as he leaves the pub fellas or whatever it's been emotional and he leaves it's been a more Right. Okay. Is that why he said that? I had no idea. Maybe it's another one of those things that we talk about where certain people in the public are trying to get catchphrases off the ground. It's going to be emotional. Like Chris Tarant, we don't want to give you that. And Phil Tuffinall trying to get appy days off the ground. Oh, is that what his thing was appy days? Yeah, but it's spelled A-P-P-Y, D-A-Z-E.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Why, like, are cricketers? Like, there's like three. three or four cricketers that are just like good time guys. And they just always seem like they're having a lot of fun. But cricket always seems quite sort of staid and kind of, you know, you know, old school. But there's like toughers and not Michael Atherton. He didn't seem like a lot of fun. Who's the fellow who crashed that car, the tall man?
Starting point is 00:08:16 Freddie Flintoff. Freddy Flintoff. And Shane Ward. God rest him. Shane Warren. Shane Warren. Do you not know who Shane Warren is? I know who Shane Warren.
Starting point is 00:08:26 is. Shane Ward, one X factor. For the longest time, incredible. What time to be allowed. When people would talk about Shane Juan, I would say,
Starting point is 00:08:37 good ball, Shane. But Vich told me that's not what people were saying. Bowling, Shane. Yeah, so there was like a wicket keeper behind the wicket for Australia for quite a long time called Adam Gilchrist. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:48 And he was kind of knowing and picked up on the stump mics quite a lot for being really enthusiastic about Shane Warren's bowling, right? Oh, that's nice. He'd be encouraging him all the time He'd go, oh, bowling, Shane. Yes, Shane.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Sometimes, like, if it was like a near miss, you'd hear him go, oh, yes, Shane. Like that? That's adorable. Why can't we have little hate men behind our stumps? I think we do as well. I just think the Australian accent lends itself.
Starting point is 00:09:12 And obviously, Warren... No, I mean, us, me and you. I want to have a hate man. I'm up for that, yeah. Yes, Pete. But I think, obviously, because Warren was such an icon, possibly the most iconic bowler in terms of his, like,
Starting point is 00:09:24 what he brought to the game and his lifestyle and everything. that. It's just a bit of a legend really. And you're obviously one of the greatest spin bowlers of all time, like genuinely like could walk the walk as well. So yeah, but cricket's good for that stuff. I mean, you get like a lot of, you know, in the middle, there's a lot of what they call obviously sledging where they're kind of tearing strips off each other. And I think, I think there's a movement to kind of, um, perhaps kind of stamp it out. So it's not very gentlemanly. It's a bit kind of unsavory, but I love it. Yeah. I mean, it seems like,
Starting point is 00:09:52 I know that's very much part of it, but I guess we like modern like microphone techniques and you know, HD cameras and stuff, you can really tell what people are saying, and a lot of it's very unseemly. It's a game of the mind, though, cricket a lot of the time. It's a game of the mind. Quite recently, I think it was the England-India test series recently.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Joe Root was one of the best batsmen in the world and was playing really well. I watched a day of play. I can't remember which test it was. And Joe Root was batting for quite a lot of the day. And you could see, you could lip read the Indian Stipfields and the wikikeeper all the time over and over again every time Joe wrote
Starting point is 00:10:26 like root player shot and like turned around they were going fuck you fuck you fuck you like rot in his face and I've also heard I also heard I think it was Australian fielders saying to an English batsman who was making his debut he walked out into the middle of course it's quite intimidating right because you're right in the middle
Starting point is 00:10:43 it's you and another batsman but there's loads of Australian fielders around there's a crowd as well and I remember hearing on the stump mic one of the Australian fielders kept saying to him what are you doing him mate you don't belong here. You're not good enough here. You're not good enough to be here. Like a psychological war as some boat was about to come down by the ball of all, like 90-mile out of his head. He's just another guy in the background going, you don't belong here, mate. What are you doing here, pal?
Starting point is 00:11:08 That's that's horrible, isn't it? That's proper like mean girl stuff, though, isn't it? Speaking, by the way, little mention for Shane Ward there, the X Factor winner. Yeah. I don't think it was this year. Did he sing That's My goal or is that someone else? I think he might have done, yeah. That's my goal. He did. That was 2005. So different year, but did you see that video doing the round recently? I want to say of maybe the 2014 X Factor. Might have been a different one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:36 So around that time. And what they'd done, let me just check what year Lady Gaga's telephone came out as a single. Oh, okay, right. That was, oh, 2009. So maybe it was 2009. Anyway, so all the finalists of Factor, do you remember, they're in different categories said like the over 25s the boys the girls and the groups i think that's what it was right yeah and they got down to the point where they were doing the live shows and
Starting point is 00:12:03 to celebrate the um the start of the live show portion of the series all the finalists whether they're in the boy category the girl category the group category of the over 25's character category um we did like a med like a song where they all sang together okay right like a rendition of a song and it was um as i've just checked it was 2010 right so um it's fucking brilliant because right in that um in that final were was um on one side of the fence was um one direction aka one of the big i think possibly statistically the biggest boy band ever certainly in UK history yeah fair right and on the other side of it was Wagner
Starting point is 00:12:52 Do you remember as Wagner? Yes. Yeah, he was, I wonder what is it? He's probably doing the same thing, I suppose. And it's really funny because, like, one direction will be doing this kind of portion of the verse, and then the camera would just cut to Wagner. It's just the weirdest thing.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Like a weird uncle, yeah. A proper novelty act. And then the Beyonce guest rap in the middle of the song. It was a brilliant song, by the way. He's done by, do you remember Sher Lloyd, who's like a cult kind of thing and now as well. She went to like America
Starting point is 00:13:25 with that swagger jagger song. Yeah, yeah. And it's a proper like, it's a proper like journey that song, all those different X-Fact of people. It's so quaint, isn't it? We are a very small island. We just are.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Even, you sort of see like an act like Leona Lewis is a very good example where it's like, if you, like, she is, like the way she looks, the way she sings, there is no reason why anyone is getting that act wrong.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Do you know what I mean? Like, there's no reason why she wasn't a global star. She's almost like, she almost is like, she looks a bit like and starred a bit like a British Beyonce at the time. Yeah, or yeah, or a Mariah Carey kind of thing. There's no reason why if you can't get that right, I don't think you have any, I don't think they, you know, lightning in the bottle with like One Direction and stuff
Starting point is 00:14:10 and that was, you know, wonderfully done. And, you know, obviously that, you know, as big as any of like the sort of boy bands that have ever existed, I understand that. But if you are getting Leon Lewis wrong, I don't think you have any right to judge anyone. on a panel show on a like a talent show because it's just
Starting point is 00:14:26 what's mad about One Direction is that they're put together in 2010 and they break up in 2016 so it's not even six years right yeah and by the time they broke up
Starting point is 00:14:39 they're worth over a billion dollars yeah but that's what I mean like how much are they getting how about that they probably made 10 million each from it what did you know the geezer who died I think the geezer who died
Starting point is 00:14:50 the state he left something like 30-odd million, I think. Right, okay. It's not bad, is it? It's not bad. I think, you know, I know those deals are like, it's terrible. I know those deals are weighted heavily in favour the record label and there's a bit of exploitation involved and stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:06 But I think there comes a time when you become so big that it's just undeniable. You just have to, yeah. Yeah. And you don't sign 20-year-old. You don't sign 20-year contracts, do you? You're signing like a five-year-a for the protection of... I don't know. From Simon, would you be signing up to Simon?
Starting point is 00:15:21 Cowell winning X Factor and sort of actually no they didn't win did they it was the bloc um who sang like Biffie Clara or cover no they didn't win did they yeah I don't think you're going anywhere near Simon Cowell these days are you what do you mean as in like he looks very odd I'm sure he's got connections
Starting point is 00:15:36 well you don't physically want to be in the same room as him but uh he's still he's one of those weird ones cow because he looked fine like a bit of a weird Lego haircut but like he looked fine I don't know with people like that
Starting point is 00:15:52 you are kind of like what yeah you're not you were never handsome well you're probably pretty good looking back of the day when he's you know
Starting point is 00:16:01 in his 20s or whatever but like that was never your brand do you know what I mean it would be like me getting fillers like what do what's the point what you are you are you are the band playing on
Starting point is 00:16:12 as Titanic goes down like there's no there's no reason for you you're just in the deck chairs aren't you that's the example I mean to make do people are just deck chairs Were they adjusting the deck chairs
Starting point is 00:16:21 They were doing some of the deck chairs Weren't they? I think isn't the phrase you're rearranging the deck chairs and the Titanic? Rearranging the deck chairs and the Titanic, right, okay. But I mean, at some point the deck chairs would have been rearranged for it to leave dock in Southampton, surely.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Yeah, I suppose so. They probably wanted to deck chairs looking good for the maiden voyage. Yeah, at some point, unless you are a deck chair person who knows what's going to happen or is in cahoots with a big iceberg, I don't think that
Starting point is 00:16:49 I think the deck chairs did need to be adjusted if you're adjusting them as it goes down yeah fine that's a good example that's a good analogy but if you're doing it
Starting point is 00:16:57 at Southampton Dock I think that's fair enough personally nothing good can come out of Southampton I think we've learnt that on that on that boy band thing
Starting point is 00:17:07 is I'll tell you that when I worked at Polydor girls allowed run the label right okay yeah and I used to get to see their schedule and it was absolutely barbaric Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I mean, I, watching that boy band documentary and I think it was a Spice Girl, I might even, well not, it was the David Beckham documentary movie. Like, they just didn't have any time. It was just, like, whatever, it was just getting shuffled into studio in the back of Addison Lee's
Starting point is 00:17:35 from about six in the morning to midnight. It was just absolutely endless. I don't know how. I'm pretty sure they used to count their travel days as their days off as well, which is a piss take. Yeah, absolutely. been like Japan and traveling to like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:17:49 Germany or something. That's your day off. Not really, is it? I'm traveling, I've got a 12-hour flight. Nice fly flatbed, though, isn't it? Do you reckon they got that? Or do you reckon they're in coach? No, they wouldn't mean a coach, would they?
Starting point is 00:18:02 If you've got a Japan tour and you're not like, I'm going to use the wrestling analogy, you're a jobbing wrestler. I think you are, if you've got enough money to go on a Japan tour, you're probably going to stump up five grand each for a flight, I'd say. You can absolutely see why that boy band documentary, the other ones around it, like there was a boys own Westlife one, wasn't it? It was just a boys' own one, I think.
Starting point is 00:18:27 One or two others, it's a tough old life. Yeah, mustn't be. None of that stuff is what it seems. Like none of that stuff is, there's that, that boy by one with the, the, that guy, that poor lad from 9-1-1, you know, you supposedly last as long as, did i would have i would have of like the um i would very much of like the um a little bit more honesty on like the money side of things because i think we'd like take that and with uh boy's own and west life you know they are you know the 10 year careers pretty at the top of the tree for a long
Starting point is 00:19:04 time so you're gonna you're gonna make money out of that but it's bounds like five where you're like i don't think you're making more than a couple of like like a mill each personally i did they did I touch on it in the boy by one about East 17, where I think they were on off a hundred and fifty pound a week at one point or something. Yeah, yeah. Well, do you see Cradle of Filth? Danny Filth was in trouble because some members of Cradle of Filth were getting paid like, you know, $250 or something. And they were, they said that they were being bullied and stuff like that. And they said they were just not on a good time or whatever.
Starting point is 00:19:39 But it just surprised me that it was like literally you get paid $250 quid a day to be in Credlo. Filthage is such a weird kind of that's a weird story and you can still work else way. Well, exactly, yeah, exactly. There was that famous documentary in the 90s of Cradle of Cradler Filth where it was like Danny Filth, mum was following them around on tour. Do you remember?
Starting point is 00:19:58 I don't remember it, but I do remember Cradle of Fills being genuinely one of the most woeful bands in history. They're all right, aren't they? For that... No, just terrible. Just terrible. Crap! Like the worst of both worlds.
Starting point is 00:20:14 It's like really, really try hard. Well, you know, you've always been a young blood man, haven't you? I don't really know what to make. To be honest, I don't really know what to make of young blood. I don't, I don't understand what he even is. I get that some people like him because he's like a great ambassador for, you know, non-diverse people and he's a bit, he's original and he's a bit different in terms of where he does things.
Starting point is 00:20:37 But it's all very thin gruel to me, isn't it? It's a listening experience. Yeah, it's fantastic. possibly one of the best examples of a recording artist where the music probably doesn't really even matter?
Starting point is 00:20:52 Yeah, and it's, I think the inauthenticity, I think, in a apparently authentic space is the thing that I think ruffles feathers with people. But don't they, but I saw an interview with him recently where he said, look, people say I'm not authentic, but
Starting point is 00:21:08 I've never hidden where I'm from and what I'm all about. But what I am all about is, you know, being honest about things like mental health struggles and being saying that it's okay to be neurodiverse and all the rest of it. It just seems like an old, like a really, really modern zeitgeisty thing that maybe I'm just too old to understand. I mean, for the record, I think the music is appalling.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Let's you off kind of being a bit of an industry plant slash nepot baby does. Well, do you reckon is he? He's not an industry plant, is he? He's not a net. He's, I don't think he's just from money. I think it's just general, just from money. I think is the way to kind of, you know, went to private. school, all that's shade. But he, I think he was on stage with
Starting point is 00:21:47 Morsevera Smith singing some Ozzy Osbourne tracks, and you're like, oh, right, okay, you did the gig and everyone liked it. Let's just leave it there, shall we? Yeah. Let's just leave it there. But the amount of nepotism in, like, the entertainment industry is incredible anyway, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:22:04 Usually, of course it is. Speaking of which, by the way, I completely accidentally came across I want to say Liam Gallagher's son's band today?
Starting point is 00:22:16 Right, okay, okay are they as bad as Bonner's son's band inhale? I'm not heard of them what are they all about? Just, yeah, not very good.
Starting point is 00:22:26 They're successful but they're not very good. Okay. What are they called? They're called inhaler which obviously I should love as an asthmatic but you know
Starting point is 00:22:34 got you on board straight away got me on board straight away. That's been really badly to fumble that with you you're done aside Liam Gallagher's band son's band is called Villanelle and they've got a song called Hinge
Starting point is 00:22:47 and it came up in my YouTube recommendations God knows why probably a lot of voices stuff it was probably the most average song I've ever heard in my life it was absolutely fine it was fine Would you kick him out of your band He looks great
Starting point is 00:23:01 I mean obviously he looks great Right And he's mastered that That kind of bring it on down type guitar sound where you've run the pick over the strings like that sound a pick a pick a script yeah he's mastered that but I got I got the impression like watching him because it was a live performance of it and this has me being particularly harsh I suppose and nitpicky and God he looks like him Gallagher good God yeah he does he's
Starting point is 00:23:30 not ever ring a guitarist he basically reminded me of myself and listen I know the tricks to look like you know he's playing guitar when you're not really well I had I as I discussed on the last show I had a dream about being in Smashing Pumpkins we were going to do a gig at a pub and I spent, I knew the gig was approaching like in the next five minutes and I, none of my
Starting point is 00:23:51 guitars had any strings on them. And I'm just, fuck, and I'm just gone, and I've not played a guitar in years so I'm just like, I don't know what, what's new in strings. And I bought these strings that were like big bass strings. They're not the right strings. This is a nightmare. That's an anxiety dream right there. I hope
Starting point is 00:24:07 I hope the Smashy Pumpkins have provided the chords because I don't know any of these fucking songs that's just absolutely terrible I've had exactly the same type of dream where I'm supposed to be going on stage at a massive festival show and I've got
Starting point is 00:24:23 and the whole premise of the dream is that I've written this song and everyone loves it right very different dreams are like I'm in a good band in a pub and you're doing your own songs in front of thousands of people
Starting point is 00:24:37 but I've just had this song right And it's a very vivid dream for me, right? And the song, the song was called, it's one of those weird things because the song in the dream, I was convinced that it was a brilliant name for a song. Yeah, okay, nice.
Starting point is 00:24:52 And the song was called That World War II War. I like it. I like that. What great name? And when I get up on stage, I can't remember any of the songs. And then I did that thing that you were talking about before where I then suddenly tell myself,
Starting point is 00:25:09 oh it's just the dreams you just don't worry about it just play and people just get it because it's a dream and then i wake up but it's proper anxiety i'm pretty sure i've been grinding my teeth when i've been doing it yeah that's absolutely horrific yeah but i've got strings on my guitar i just can't play them yeah good point yeah well at least you got the guitars i can play the guitar by the way i'm just a quite limited guitar player and i saw a lot of myself in liam gallagher's son is what i'm saying could you play with bass strings though on it you just snap the neck wouldn't it kind of strong The old basses, they've got quite, they've got thicker rods, haven't they, in the neck?
Starting point is 00:25:40 Well, one of the things I realised a while back, if you heard of that guy, McGee, M-K-G-E-E, he's great. No. He's really good. He put a record out last year called Two Star on the Dream Place. It's really good. Right. His name is mk-g-e-e.
Starting point is 00:25:55 He's a brilliant guitar player. He does a lot of stuff with Dijon as well, who I also really like. Right. And he had this song called Are You Looking Up, which is one of the songs of the year last year, and the video is really good. And he just sings and plays the guitar at the same time, obviously,
Starting point is 00:26:11 but the guitar part's really complicated. And I couldn't work out how he got the guitar sound that he got. And then I realized he had basically stringed his guitar with like baritone strings. Right. So this is a really boring technical thing. And I'm sorry to anyone listening that's just lost us here. Like it just makes the guitar sound. sound almost like very, very deep, very kind of rootsy.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Right, okay, yeah. And what you can do is you can hammer the strings and it makes a massive sound. And so he had obviously done that. And I was faffing around trying to work out how he got the sound, muck around my amp and my pedals and stuff. I couldn't get anyone near it. And then I realized that's why he's done it.
Starting point is 00:26:54 So putting bass strings on your guitar probably wouldn't be, I mean, you probably couldn't do it with most guitars because you couldn't string them in because it would be too thick. But as a principle... He's got a longer guitar neck as well. Like a conversion neck on a lot of the guitars He's one of those guys
Starting point is 00:27:10 Who's like if you're a guitar head People are really into him He does a load of videos where he's been interviewed About how he sets his guitar up and stuff And people just wank all over it Well he plays like a Fen of Jaguar So you would think Because they're customized I think
Starting point is 00:27:22 Yeah it's got loads of little You know the Fen of Jaguar's got loads of switches on it I always sort of think Who's using them switches He's using them switches Yeah I'm not He's using them switches I don't know what they do
Starting point is 00:27:31 His kit list on a quickboard.com includes a Tascam Port studio Well, that doesn't make the music, does it? It's a tape recorder Fucking My mate, I play with users a helix Which is like a 5 million amps In one computer
Starting point is 00:27:48 I keep threatening to plug a guitar Into this little sound thing I've got earwormed and pissing about with digital effects But I have yet to have time That's why like recording, making a record now It's kind of interesting But it's also a bit of a shame because what you can basically do is just say
Starting point is 00:28:06 okay for this song I want my guitar to sound like and it could be any guitar you've got I want it to sound like a Fender Jaguar going through a Fender Blues Deluxe amp or whatever and it'll just simulate the sound and you wouldn't be a tell a difference and people say you can tell a difference you fucking can't tell a difference
Starting point is 00:28:26 Can you sort of give it a, can AI work out what effect is needed? Do you know what I mean? Like, can you sort of send, could you put a piece of music to an AI and it could sort of scuttle off and find out what reverb effects, what stacks are in there? I don't trust, I wouldn't trust the AI findings at this point. Four you know it's a little fucking monkey rather than the unicycle juggling. A little bit of fruit eating itself.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Yeah, probably can, I don't know, but what I do know is you can simulate any guitar and amp sound that you want easily now, which is a bit of a shame because people would work really hard to get the sound they wanted. Unless you're some kind of like Jack White type character where everything's analogue, you're really going to take the cheaper option, aren't you? Farts, I made had a midi guitar, we made it fart once, that was fun. There you go, that's this kind of stuff we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:29:14 That's the kind of stuff, yeah. Peter, before we go, should we just do a quick email? Yeah, let's do a quick email. And this can find a brick for the ad break. They would have already done it by now, wouldn't they? Yeah, exactly. They were like, fine, good, finally finish this. We went deep on that guitar chat then.
Starting point is 00:29:32 That's all right, isn't it? Yeah, I like that kind of chat. We're dads. That's what dads spend the money on his guitar stuff. They do. Yeah, the biggest, the biggest bane in my life is actually carrying my massive amp down the stairs out of my flat
Starting point is 00:29:43 when I want to go and play. Like, it's honestly, like, soul destroy. And I dread it like two days out. That's what these whole effects thing is for. These amp models are for. Yeah, but I spend so grand on the amp. It wasn't even that long ago. I've got a, um, is it Kirk Hammett?
Starting point is 00:29:58 Would that be a, would that be a, yeah, I think I've got a Kirk Hammett, um, little practice amp. Oh, really? It's in a box somewhere. What, is it, how'd you get that? I bought it on Facebook Marketplace years ago, I think. He plays Randallamps, doesn't he?
Starting point is 00:30:12 Right. Well, he's got his, I've got a little practice amp, and it's one of his signature signature amps, signature practice amps. That's when you know you're a fucking good guitarist because you get your own signature shit. I know. Just make your own.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I'll do it now. That's what Jack White doesn't. Right, Pete. Jack White put an amp on the market recently where everyone got really excited, about it it was um it was a um yeah it's like a signature ramp that he had made himself that he was selling i think direct a customer himself but it had like um two different size speakers in the amp so it gave you a really interesting sound and um my friend blair who's a very successful
Starting point is 00:30:47 singer was not the songwriter um was raving about it and then my other mate who i play guitar with was um was talking about how cool it looked as well and the thing was i probably shouldn't say this but um someone i know someone i know i'm not to name them because this will out them is is the head of music for quite a prestigious private school and their budget is so high that every time I chat to him about something that I've seen on the market,
Starting point is 00:31:12 music-wise, he just buys it. You have that for the school. Stick it in the studio. Stick it in the studio. I'll lose the budget next year. Yeah, use it, I'll lose it. Yeah. That's what surplus is all about. Go ahead. Anyway, what about this email here from Mike? Just to finish us off. He says, good morning, jents. Huge fan of your collective work. And I'm also a huge disliker
Starting point is 00:31:30 of that brew dog guy whose name is James Watt talked about him a week or so ago just a genuine penis and he says you can imagine my delight when I listened to last Thursday show and you got stuck into him
Starting point is 00:31:44 it was Manor from heaven until you stated that he came from Aberdeen Now I thought he did come from Aberdeen I'm really surprised they'd read this I mean he's from Fris He's from Fraserborough in Aberdeenshire Right
Starting point is 00:31:58 Yeah, Aberdeenshire counts isn't it Donald Trump visited Aberdeen Shade and go in Aberdeen and like drink with the fucking riggers did he? It's not that close to Aberdeen though No, okay fair So he says You managed from Fraser Run the north of Aberdeenshire Please don't sully the good natives of the Granite City
Starting point is 00:32:17 Luke's grandmother, myself included By tiring us with that guy's shitty and increasingly weird brush Thanks very much, Mike Fair enough, hold my hands up, got it wrong You know my style, Pete, I just say things we're comfortable and no one questions it. We've both recently fallen foul
Starting point is 00:32:33 of attributing Aberdeen, somebody being an Aberdeenite lately. You did on the ramble and got hammered, didn't you? Got absolutely hammered.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Biffy Cliro. Yeah. I love the guy from Biffy Clara. I think I've got a big crush on him. Simon Neal. Is it Simon Neal? He's not been cancelled or anything. He's not anything problematic, has he?
Starting point is 00:32:51 He's nice, nice lad. Him and his brother. His brother, always got his top off. Yeah. No, is it his brother? No. There's two brothers And it's the bassist, the bassist and the drummer are brothers.
Starting point is 00:33:02 One of them's got long ginger hair. One of them's got near hair, but did have ginger hair. And Simon Neal's unrelated to that whole thing. Their new stuff is very, it's very poppy, isn't it? There's nothing really going on there. Can I, can I respond to that by saying, I haven't heard in their new stuff, couldn't tell you. But I love their aesthetic.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I love their kind of the captain era sound. And I also think that for the type of music they make, Simon Neal must be a really good guitar player because he's playing on his own. Yes, completely agree. There's no other guitar players. It's always very impressive. There's usually a touring one.
Starting point is 00:33:36 There probably is one beyond saying. But he does do a lot of his own stuff, which is very impressive. I don't know how... You managed to multitask like that. He also looks like he could only ever be in a band, which I respect. You know, I don't really like the vibe when...
Starting point is 00:33:51 I don't really like the vibe when you've got like a musician or a band where they just look like just dressed normally. Yeah, no, okay. I liked it when Simon Neal got a blonde hair and he looked like that guy who sang with Dolly Parton in Ireland's in the stream Oh yeah
Starting point is 00:34:04 Kenny Rogers He looked fucking great Yeah he did He did his beard as well in me That's why Yeah Good lad Yeah I was gonna say one more thing
Starting point is 00:34:14 Oh yeah that's what I was going to say The everything I like about him is he's got God and he knows what I'd be without you tattooing on him Which one of the legendary Beach Boys lyric Oh And one of the few songs you can't play At a humanist wedding Why
Starting point is 00:34:27 He's got the word God in it Oh come on And a lot of the celebrants, a lot of the churches don't allow it because it mentions God. That's an interesting fact. I pulled that out of the bag from nowhere at the end of the show.
Starting point is 00:34:38 All right then, let's get out of here. We'll be back. We'll be back in the future. The future times on Thursday. We'll see you very soon. Look after yourselves. And if you've got, if we made any mistakes about anything,
Starting point is 00:34:50 either regarding the city of Aberdeen, the county of Aberdeenshire, or anywhere north of Hadrian's Wall, do get in touch. Hello, little beach your dot com. Get your batteries into. I'll see you on Thursday. See you then.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Bye.

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